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Now, for my Lake Mesota studio, here is the founding editor of UpNorth News, Pat Craiglo.

Well, hey there Wisconsin.

Good morning.

It is 6 0 6 on a Thursday morning, September 18th.

2025 it's another beautiful morning to welcome you here, having you here up north live from Lake Wissota from wherever you're spending your mornings listening across the civic media radio network or by podcast, social media.

I appreciate you getting your day going right here and I've got a question for you.

Did you ever think we'd be defending Jimmy Kimmel as part of an American crisis over the First Amendment?

I mean, sure, Stephen Colbert, that makes sense, but Jimmy Kimmel.

who's not a bad guy at all.

It's just that he would have been third on my list of late night comics to watch.

And yet here we are making clear that ABC capitulating to Donald Trump by pulling Jimmy Kimmel off the air.

Well, that's just something that autocrats do and the corporations that surrender to them.

And again, we have seen this in other countries where media outlets aren't necessary part of the ruling regime, but they are so afraid of it that they will do whatever it wants, which may as well be state-run media.

And again, this isn't about a joke that Jimmy Kimmel told.

If you're not familiar with it, Jimmy Kimmel did say something about the person who shot and murdered Charlie Kirk last week and made clear that the entire Trump mega movement was racing to conclusions about the shooter.

And Jimmy Kimmel pointed that out and the hue and cry that followed is the same hue and cry that has followed over every criticism or every

Factual post that's been made about Charlie Kirk.

It's been weaponized by the far right.

People have been fired, shows have been canceled, groups and cities are threatened with being defunded.

That's not democracy.

That's autocracy.

We currently don't have an ironclad First Amendment in this country.

Now Jimmy Kimmel, that was not a First Amendment case.

All right, the First Amendment protects you from government infringing on your rights.

You can still face consequences for what you're gonna say, but you would be less likely to face those consequences if it didn't feel like the government was going to work to infringe on your First Amendment freedoms.

the kind of thing you know Derek Van Orden is doing right now.

Derek Van Orden had quite the interview with an Eau Claire TV station yesterday and we're going to play some of that back in just a little bit.

So having set that up for you, let me tell you what else is coming up.

We will be talking to political strategist Joseph Pecky about the dangerous political climate the far right has brought our nation to the precipice of.

We've also been brought to the precipice of stagflation and Sean O'Malley will give us the latest update on the Federal Reserve lowering interest rates not so much because of the pressure from Donald Trump but because Donald Trump has taken the best economy in the world and again brought us to the point where we have inflation and soft employment in the country.

Probably the worst place you want to be if you're wanting to fix the American economy.

And yet here we are.

We also have a faction in this country that is decidedly anti-science, anti-vaccines of all things.

We'll meet with pediatrician Dr. Kelly Snooks who has a new video series raising Wisconsin on Up North News social media sites.

Her latest report explains what vaccines actually do inside your body.

We will hear from Senator Tammy Baldwin.

who was part of a hearing yesterday with the now former director of the Centers for Disease Control about the political pressure brought on her to say things that were not backed up by science and facts.

And when that wasn't the case, when she wasn't willing to do that, Robert Kennedy Jr.

told her get out that he needs toadies there running the CDC.

And Senator Tammy Baldwin was part of the questioning in yesterday's hearing.

We're going to visit as well in our seven o'clock hour with a candidate for legislature, former Racine City Council member Trevor Young, who recently announced that he's running for a state Senate seat that's been held by a Republican for most of the past 14 years.

We'll have Sharita Booker telling us very shortly here about some weekend events you can hit around Wisconsin.

Chad Holmes will talk to us about stories he's following for civic media in the Wausau area.

Now, if you can't stick around for the full show, have we got a deal for you?

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Let's look at Brittany Merleau's state forecast for today.

It is a simple one, cooler and getting wetter.

Just in time for the weekend for today cloudy and spotty showers highs today a big range upper 60s up north to mid 80s down south and Then a light easterly breeze for tonight on and off rain and thunder lows tonight in the mid 50s up north 60s south and Again, a light easterly breeze Again, Sherida Booker will tell us about some fun events that you can hit this weekend as we come ever so close

to the weekend.

We're one day close.

We're almost Parker Olson who produces the show.

We're one day close.

We're almost there.

Almost has this week not just dragged along.

Oh, it's about to get a lot longer for me because I have a lot of stuff to do today.

See,

no rest for the weary.

That's that's exactly where we are.

But there's just no other

The only way through is forward, I guess is what I'm trying to say.

Unless you're going to take a sick day or vacation day and you know what, those, those just aren't allowed with this.

I got a to-do list so long.

Exactly.

That's the thing.

It

compounds.

You can't, you know,

I, I can't die because there's just all this stuff that's got to get done.

Who else is going to do this?

You know?

Yeah.

Who else?

You know what?

We can all.

That means we're a replaceable patch.

I was going to say we can all be replaced.

Let's stop kidding ourselves here.

No, it reminds me of some advice that I've given some friends who as we've been talking about retirement yet, it's time for the old age chatter part of it.

And some people saying, oh, I could never retire.

I just have I have so much to do.

Like, no, no, no, no, there will always be somebody else to do it.

Now you want to do it.

But, you know, you've either left jobs in the past, or, you know, you've you've changed cities or, you know, whatever the case may be.

People have left jobs even with the longest to-do list and somebody else just comes in and does it.

That's the thing.

If you're not there, then they're going to have to find someone else to do it.

Don't

worry about it.

It's not on

you.

Do the best you can while you're doing it.

Just don't feel like you're tied to it for 24-7 the rest of your life.

Life is too short for that if we're learning anything about the world out there.

You've got to go out and enjoy things for yourself now.

You know, with that, I'm going to put these headphones down and I'm going to go to the beach.

I'll see you at

least.

Yeah, that's

yeah.

Get on that pontoon boat.

I'm just had a pontoon.

I'm heading to the airport, pal.

Back

to the Caribbean

now.

Yes.

Yes.

All right.

Well, before I talk myself into doing that, let's turn over to sports.

Brandon Woodruff.

He looked good last night, pitched five solid innings.

Let's see, he gave up only two hits and only one run, nine strikeouts.

He was a strikeout machine last night.

It was fun to watch him.

He's very, very wonderful.

Might be one of my favorite pictures to watch just because he, he doesn't just throw the ball.

He like, he pitches.

He knows where to locate stuff.

His sequencing is really good.

I think it's a really fun watch.

He really is.

And then, of course, it helps when you get some help from the offense.

Sal Freilich did that with a three run homer.

Blake Perkins tied a career high with five RBIs to lead the Brewers to a nine to two win over the Los Angeles Angels on Wednesday night.

The Angels, I mean, they were snake bit last night.

They're starting pitcher Jose Soriano.

He was already kind of struggling anyway.

And then Jake Bowers hits a line drive.

right off of his pitching arm.

Yeah, it came off the bat at 107 miles an hour.

And you're looking at that picture and you're like, you totally expect him to do the Rodney Dangerfield thing from caddy shack like, Oh, my arm, it's broken.

And for his arm to actually like fall off, it hit his arm that hard.

I can only imagine what that bruise is going to look like when he wakes up this

morning.

Oh, gosh, yeah, I didn't realize that I hit his arm.

I thought I hit him like in the hip, which

I know I think would hurt more.

Uh, well, yeah.

Well, if it hits you, it could have hit you right on the point of the elbow, but thankfully, uh, X-rays were negative.

So nothing is broken, but he's going to be bruised for a little bit.

So he had to come out of the game in the second inning.

And it's that made it tough for the angels.

It feels a little rare to me that you see a pitcher or any player really not try to argue their way back into a game.

And he was like, love off hat off.

Nope.

I'm done.

Go to the.

I'm

out of here.

I do see that more often now where players know well enough like no, I'm not don't don't do the rub some dirt on it This is this is serious and they just go no

Nope, that's fine.

So the series with the angels will wrap up tonight.

Again, it's three night games.

And so Quinn Priester will start game three coverage will begin at 605 on several civic media radio stations.

And then after tonight's game, they had right to St.

Louis no day off.

And it's not a day game today, giving them time to travel.

They just had right to St.

Louis tonight for a three game series that starts right away tomorrow.

And then after those Friday, Saturday, Sunday games, they had a right to

San Diego for games on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then they finally come home for the final homestand of the season, I believe, if I'm not mistaken.

And you can win tickets to that tomorrow because tomorrow is Parker.

The final free ticket Friday.

Wow, that's just like we rehearsed it.

That's awesome.

Yes, free ticket Friday.

One more time tomorrow, your chance to get some seats at American Family Field for free.

You are not going to be able to do that pretty much for the rest of this season and the postseason.

So somebody's going to get free tickets to a, an upcoming brewers game as part of free ticket Friday.

If you are new to this, go get the civic media app, get that on your phone and.

Tomorrow we will give you a keyword here and then other keywords throughout the day on different shows And then you use the text feature on the civic media app and text us the keyword and you are Part of a statewide entry one lucky winner will be pulled to get tickets to a future Brewer's game But again, you can hear the brewers on civic media coming up tonight

And then we've got the Packers who are playing this coming Sunday at Cleveland at noon.

And this is one of those games when it's early in the season, when it's fall and it might be beautiful out there where, you know, the TV ratings could be way up there.

Or if it's a gorgeous fall weekend, nothing, nothing for the TV people because they're all listening on the radio.

And we've got

pregame coverage starting at 10 a.m.

Sunday on stations in Richland Center, Park Falls, Racine, and Wattoma.

So head over to Civic Media to learn more.

And of course, you got the Badger football team.

They opened the Big Ten part of their schedule on Saturday, hosting Maryland 11 a.m.

kickoff, 9 a.m.

pregame on several stations of the Civic Media radio network.

What was that?

I'm worried.

Oh, you're worried about the Badgers?

Yeah.

Well, look, they won the first two games of the season, and you've made the bold prediction that they're going to win three.

So all they got to do is win against Maryland this weekend, and then they can coast the rest of the way through, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Doesn't it work like that?

Yeah.

Maybe maybe not exactly like that.

All right, coming up in just a bit, we'll talk to Sharita Booker, social media manager here at Up North News.

As we go through some of the big events of the weekend, we'll have today's history lesson and the unusual remarks.

Well, they've become usual remarks for Congressman Derek Van Orden.

Unusual if you're big on things like, you know, the First Amendment.

From the heart of America's Up North, live from Lake Basota.

Thanks for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.

I'm Pat Krightlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

you

Welcome back.

I'm here with Sharita Booker.

Sharita, welcome.

No pressure.

But boy, a lot of people are going to be paying attention to you this week.

Are they not?

Yeah, yeah, because here's the thing.

We'd never been to the Eau Claire Fall Festival.

And we went last weekend.

Sherri wanted to go.

And I said, why, where did this idea come from?

We've never gone to that before.

Well, Sharita made it sound fun.

Sharita hasn't been there.

She's just telling you about it.

She's like, Sharita makes everything sound fun.

I want to go to all the stuff she talks about.

Oh,

pressure for this week, but now have a fan amongst the radio audience.

I mean, I thought it would be the guy she was married to.

It turns out to be you.

So now no pressure, you really got to sell this.

So we're going to start

We're gonna start with a challenge and I want you to sell us on the Viola Horse and Cult Show as we head to Viola southeast of Verroqua for whatever's happening there this weekend.

It's all yours, Sharita.

And so it'll be Viola's 94th annual Horse and Cult Show and it's a family tradition that's free for everyone and this event will feature a horse show, a ranch rodeo, a horse pool, a tractor and truck pool, arts and crafts.

arts and crafts fair and a carnival for the kids and there will also be local food and live music and admission for this event is free like I said before and if you want more information on some details you can go to wp.horseandcultshow.com

wp.horseancultshow.com.

And under the live entertainment for Friday night, they've got listed high mileage after the tractor pull.

And then on Saturday night, I like this one, and I'm sure this guy's never heard it before, the Tim Daniels Band.

I'm sure charlie daniels uh has a has a a little brother or something but the tim daniels band following the conclusion of the tracker pull on saturday uh so that there's a parade and everything else you've sold me on it charita i would go this next one you don't have to to sell me on it involves bacon and for it we have to go to riverfalls

yep and that kicks off

The River Falls Bacon Fest kicks off tomorrow at Heritage Park and runs through Sunday.

The event is free and you'll find everything from sweet to savory bacon inspired dishes, pig themed contest, live music, a vendor fair, a beer garden, and family friendly activities all weekend long.

In the center of the fest is where you'll find the Bacon Central.

They'll have bacon flights and this year's flavor lineup is sweet and smoky, honey habanero,

mindful ranch and buffalo and the weekend we'll wrap up with downtown car cruise from 11 to 4 p.m.

on main street and that will be filled with classic cars hot rods and custom rides and for more information on that event visit rfchamber.com slash bacon dash bash

Again, that's the River Falls.

That's where the RF comes from.

rfchamber.com will get you there.

And also a bacon flight.

It's a

bacon

flight people with all those flavors that you just mentioned, which by the way, I have to tell you about my college buddy, Kevin.

He, when he was living in somewhere in Iowa, I want to say Ames, he helped organize a neighborhood thing where it wasn't just your regular neighborhood block party, street party thing.

There was always, it was a bacon fest right there on the street and everybody had to make some kind of a dish that involved bacon.

I love bacon, so I love living in the neighborhood.

How great an idea is that.

So I don't believe that Kevin trademarked that.

So y'all go right ahead and steal that and then get over to River Falls for the bacon bash.

And we're going to conclude in Cedarburg, right?

Where they have

more than their share of festivals and I think the Wine and Harvest one might be the might be the granddaddy of

them.

Yep and that one's coming up this Saturday and Sunday and is located in its historic downtown Cedarburg.

There will be plenty of award-winning wine from Cedar Creek Winery and the fest will include

Food stands and food trucks and you can shop at the marketplace filled with locally produced items like honey, cookies, candles, soaps, and more.

There will also be a family fall fest located at Cedar Creek Park that includes a live mermaid, a bubble artist, a bounce house, face painting, and bumper boats.

There will also be a giant pumpkin charity regatta.

That will take place on Sunday where racers paddle 700 pound pumpkins across Cedar Creek to raise money for local charities and the annual grape stomp competition where teams of four race against the clock to stomp as many grapes as they can will be taking place both Saturday and Sunday at 1 and 3 p.m.

The festival is free to attend and for more information visit cedarburgfestivals.org

cedarburnfestivals.org.

Yeah, the paddling in giant pumpkins has me a little concerned, but I'm sure they haven't lost anybody yet to that.

And of course, all of that is on top of a whole bunch of Oktoberfest celebrations.

Of course, there's Oktoberfest here in Chippewa Falls, Friday and Saturday.

Waukesha, Manitowoc, Burlington, Stevens Point, three lakes all have Oktoberfest.

And as we mentioned before, in Elkhart Lake, they have Elkhtoberfest.

very nice.

I really like what they did there.

There's the Waukesha Apple Harvest Festival, the Brentwood Chili Cook Off, Bondiwell Founders Day, Fall Arama in Wapaka, the Downtown Bullet Fall Festival, and we, Parker and I agreed this is our favorite one for this weekend, the Atomic Voodoo Rockabilly Meltdown in Edgerton on Saturday.

That's interesting.

That's a mouthful right there.

travelwisconsin.com will get you to all these things, especially the ones that Sherida Booker highlights for us every week at this time.

Sherida, thank you as always.

Have a great weekend.

You too, Pat.

All right, so getting back Parker to Oktoberfest, I know we can't get you up here.

Have you, have you polka danced at all?

You ever do a polka or waltz?

I do not believe I have no.

Okay, all right.

Well, you, you could get your opportunity at any of these polka.

you know, Oktoberfest things.

The one in Chippewa Falls here that kicks off tomorrow.

The bands there include the Rhythm Playboys, North of Dixie, the Mississippi Valley Dutchman, Gary's Ridgeland Dutchman, which I'm sure they're at every Oktoberfest everywhere.

The Hays Boys Orchestra and the Bear Creek Band, all playing in Friday at the Northern Wisconsin State Fairgrounds.

Then on Saturday, the Mike Schneider Band, Homegrown Tomatoes, the Copper Box Band, Six Figure Sunrise, Polka Riotti,

and the Charlie Jussman Band.

All that coming up, head over to Chippewa Falls Oktoberfest on the Northern Wisconsin State Fairgrounds.

Today's history lesson is on the way, including some premieres.

WKRP, for example.

What year did that premiere on CBS?

The answer coming up next.

You're up north.

But the senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity.

Well, the answer to today's history trivia question is 1978.

It was on September 18th, 1978, that WKRP in Cincinnati.

A little TV series about a radio station switching formats from easy listening to rock made its debut on CBS Polarity in Seuss.

I had no idea what that show was about.

I just knew.

that it was like a radio station and that's about it.

The only thing I've ever known about that show is the turkey bombing.

Of course, yes.

No, there was so much.

The entire premise of the show was that it was this struggling little station that was playing.

Beautiful music was the format name at the time.

We now call it elevator music.

And that's, you know, what we're supposed to be in this, this new program director comes in to shake things up, let some play rock and roll to try to get up in the ratings.

And then there's all kinds of hijinks.

I see, you know, elevator cap times, idea fest, they had excellent elevator music.

Did they now I got a Xomers domini can all attest it was fantastic

All right, we got to find that out Roger puts on Facebook the first song that dr. Johnny fever played on WKRP was Queen of the Forest by Ted Nugent and it's a it's a great scene where you know

Johnny is told that he can now start spinning rock and roll records.

And so he takes the needle on the classical music record and just scratches it right across there, breaks the record in half, puts on the Ted Nugent record and lets it go.

It's it's just one of it is one of the better show beginnings to a series.

If you ever want to establish the premise for something, that's where you go.

So be careful.

Way to establish

rock.

That's exactly it.

Okay, let's see.

So we're doing kind of this the season of TV premieres and it was on this day in 1965 that NBC premiered a new sitcom starring Barbara Eden as a genie and Larry Hagman as an astronaut who becomes her master.

The I Dream of Genie.

Again, that premiered 60 years ago today.

Let's see, I have another one here.

Yeah, the Atmos Family premiered on this day in 1964 on CBS.

Speaking of CBS, before TV, it started as a radio network, and the radio network began on this day in 1927, heard on 18 stations originally, and then of course, running across the country.

The New York Times first published on this day in 1851.

It was first called The New York Daily Times and then later changed its name to simply The New York Times.

So back to I Dream of Genie since we heard the theme there just now.

Larry Hagman played an astronaut who I would assume was in the Air Force since many of them were.

And it's worth noting that the Air Force has a birthday today.

On this day in 1947, the National Security Act takes effect.

It was a post-war reorganization of the U.S.

military that marked the beginning of the U.S.

Air Force, the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Council, and the U.S.

Department of Defense, which is still its official name, despite whatever branding a war-mongering president would want it to be.

It is still the Defense Department.

The number one song this week in 1961 was written by Carol King and Jerry Goffin and sung by Bobby V.

Again,

that was 1961 that this was the number one song.

Happy birthday to Frankie Avalon, who had a lot of hits back in that era.

He is 85 years old today.

It's a bit of a melancholy day for Cubs fans, Ryan Sandberg, who passed away in late July.

He would have been 66 years old today.

On a somewhat related note, the Ken Burns Documentary Mini Series Baseball premiered on PBS on this day in 1994 and would go on to win the Emmy for Outstanding Informational Series.

Did you ever watch the Ken Burns Baseball Series?

No, I haven't.

I'm interested.

I mean, MLB Network runs it all the time in the offseason.

Oh, sure.

And obviously, because it's historical, it's about baseball, it still stands the test of time, obviously.

You can watch it today and be just as impressed as 31 years ago when it came out.

I highly recommend it.

So it's like original like old old baseball or like it is.

What's going

on?

Yeah, no, no is the the history of the beginnings of baseball all the way all the way through, you know, say the 70s or 80s.

I forget where he stopped.

Sure.

But yeah, the very, very outstanding series on this day in 1987 was the release of the thriller Fatal Attraction starring Michael Douglas and Glenn Close.

Pet rabbits everywhere still shudder whenever that film gets mentioned and I don't know that I can really spoil it for you Parker if you're not familiar with what I'm talking about.

People who have seen fatal attraction and I mentioned bunny rabbits they they know exactly what happens to what happens to your pet rabbit when daddy has an affair.

Anyway, happy birthday to yeah I'm just gonna leave you hanging there you got it you got to watch it.

Joanne Catharall is 63 years old today.

You don't know her name, but you know the group, the Human League.

That

would be Joanne Catharall.

63 today, formerly worked as a waitress in a cocktail bar.

but now it's living her life on her own, either with or without you.

Aisha Tyler is 55 years old today.

Jason Sedakis is 50 today.

The person that you may know from Saturday Night Live, or if you are fortunate enough to watch the show, Ted Lasso.

I don't know if it's just that he's that good at playing the character, or Jason Sudeikis just wasn't that much of a household name.

But I sometimes have to catch myself and go, now wait a minute, who's the actor that played Ted Lasso?

I'm like, oh yeah, it's Jason Sudeikis from Saturday Night Live.

But I mean, he just so immerses himself into that character.

Every clip I have ever seen of Ted Lasso has made me go, this is genuinely a guy who has zero idea what he's doing.

And

football.

Soccer, sorry.

It's so fun.

Great premise for the series here.

On this day in 1938, the Chicago Bears beat the Green Bay Packers two to nothing.

At that point in 1938, it was the fifth time an NFL game had ended two to nothing, but it hasn't happened since.

Really?

Yeah.

Oh, I love that.

There's a name for foot games.

Final scores in football games.

Is it Scorigami?

Scorigami?

Scorigami?

Yeah.

Scorigami.

I'm a

huge fan of Scorigami.

Are you really?

Oh, yeah.

It strikes all the different ways that a football game could end, and every so often, a score combination comes up, and a football game has never ended in that score before.

I

can't remember which team it is.

I want to say it's North Texas, the college football team.

In their, like, media guide on game

day, they

have a chart.

of Scoragami for their program.

I like it.

I'm a nerd for that

stuff.

I'm looking at the chart right now, and I'm trying to look for one that you wouldn't expect.

Here's one.

32 to 15.

OK?

So no football game has ever ended 32-15.

And so when it does, people make a big deal about it, like, Scoragami!

Never happened.

Man, we get excited about the little things, don't we?

We have to.

All right, let's get back to the music history, back to 2010, when Katy Perry had the number one hit.

This was Katy Perry's third number one hit, again this day, 15 years ago.

And finally for music, James Marsden.

And I know what some of you are thinking, James Marsden singing?

Yeah.

I mean, before you saw him in Paradise, which is the current series he's in, where he plays a president of the United States.

And before X-Men and 27 dresses and somewhere around the time he was doing Party of Five, he was in the movie Hairspray, playing kind of a Dick Clark type guy leading their version of American Bandstand.

So there you go, James Marsden.

He can sing.

Yeah, this is actually

good.

That's from hairspray and hairspray is a delightful movie.

I've never seen the play.

Yeah, but a really nice movie.

I've

never seen it.

I should.

I know Tifa is in it.

Zach Efron.

Yeah, just a really, really nice little weekend escape movie if you get if you see it come up on TV on the National Day calendar.

This is International Equal Pay Day.

This is Locate an Old Friend Day.

Although I would remind you what I just said about fatal attraction.

So be careful which old friends you look up, okay?

This is also National Cheeseburger Day.

And as a result, McDonald's has 50 cent cheeseburgers.

But there's a catch.

You got to order them through the app.

And I like a lot of apps.

I use a ton of apps.

I have just had the worst luck with the McDonald's app over the years, where an order gets lost, or you think you have to put it in a second time, and then there's two orders waiting there for you.

And I'm not a dumb guy.

I can work an app.

We can clip that.

I saw the 50 cent burgers.

I'm like, hey, that's oh, through the app.

No, that's OK.

There are also.

National Cheeseburger Day specials at Burger King, Dairy Queen, Applebee's, Red Robin, Sonic, and I'm sure more.

All right, 646 the time right now in entertainment news.

Let me get my 11 oversized mug here.

What do you got?

What do you want to pitch us on today?

What's today's big entertainment story?

Oh, God, do you want to hear about Kanye West?

Do

I

want to?

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure that we want to, but you know what?

He's in the news right now because he has a documentary coming out tomorrow.

Apparently it is awful, as you may expect.

One of the quotes reviewing it was it's like watching a car wreck in slow motion for two hours.

So

as you may expect for the Kanye West, anything.

So I guess, I mean, was this, did he take part in it?

Was he like a producer of it or something?

I don't entirely know.

Apparently most of it was shot on iPhone, which I don't entirely get.

But yeah, it captures everything from like the last couple of years, everything from like his very not good politics to his apparent presidential run and just weird encounters with other celebrities.

It seems like a weird thing that I don't think I want to spend my time on.

Yeah, the documentary is called In Whose Name.

It was done by Nicholas Ballestero, who filmed Kanye West over six years.

Yeah,

it's like 3000 hours.

Shouldn't we give him like a prize for that?

Just for following Kanye around?

I mean, because again, look, I know there's a song or two I like.

I know that I watched TMZ enough to know that he is

He is something.

He's really something.

And I can take that in small doses, but through six years of following him for a documentary.

Where are we going to see this thing?

Is it?

Oh, it's in theaters, it says here.

Oh,

I

didn't even actually look at that part because frankly, I was so out on it that I didn't want to look.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, I don't know.

I think it ends either right at or certainly just before last year when he released a song, Kanye did called Heil Hitler.

So again, there's a complex man and I'll bet it's a complex documentary.

And if you want to pay to see it in theaters, there be my guest.

There's an opportunity there for you.

Yeah.

So there you go.

Thanks for pitching today's entertainment story of the day.

We will be talking to a candidate for state Senate from the Racine area in our next hour, along with pediatrician Dr. Kelly Snooks about vaccines.

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We have a weekday version and a Sunday version as well.

The Sunday version includes our question of the week and this week's question laid out four of the better known conspiracy theories that Senator Ron Johnson likes to spread.

Which of them would you like to hear him stop talking about forever?

And the fact that there was not in all of the above response to not sit well with a lot of people.

And of course, one of them is the tremendous and gross disservice he's done to the American public during the pandemic and the thing, the conspiracies that he has been spreading.

Of course, we now live in an age where a conspiracy theorist and vaccine doubter denier

is in charge of the Department of Health and Human Services, Robert Kennedy Jr.

And that was the focus of a hearing yesterday when senators heard from Susan Monarez, a Wisconsin native who had been head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the CDC, for barely a month before she was out.

after refusing to go along with Robert Kennedy Jr.'

's demands that she embrace conclusions and talking points that did not have science and data to back them up.

It was a sometimes-testy Senate committee hearing, writes The New York Times, as Menorah's talked about

the ways that Kennedy had abandoned science in his ongoing dismantling of long-standing vaccine policy.

Republicans, meanwhile, continued to claim that the CDC is what made the problem worse because in those early months of the pandemic, when there was a lot of uncertainty out there,

And it was noted at the time, there was a lot of uncertainty out there, but apparently that lack of instant certainty helped to undermine public confidence in the CDC, though one could argue there were plenty of politicians who fueled that as well.

Wisconsin Senator Tammy Baldwin was a part of the panel and talked to Susan Minarez and also to Dr. Deborah Howery.

the CDC's former chief medical officer who quit in solidarity when Manares was let go and here is Senator Tammy Baldwin talking to Susan Manares and then to Dr. Linda Horry.

Despite his proclamations of radical transparency, Secretary Kennedy has consistently failed to provide information to Congress as he continues to undermine public health from his role in the Trump administration.

You've heard from me before, having Secretary Kennedy in charge of the health of Americans is dangerous.

And what we're hearing from you today really underscores this for me.

Dr. Minarez, did Secretary Kennedy ever give you instructions on how you should interact with members of Congress?

He did.

I had reached out to the committee to share my concerns.

Secretary Kennedy became aware of that, and he was very concerned that I had spoken to members of Congress, and he told me I was never to do it again.

Congress and the American people need to know what is happening at the CDC, and this censorship is not radical transparency, and it is unacceptable.

In Wisconsin, there are currently 36 cases of measles, all in unvaccinated individuals, 22 of whom are children.

Dr. Ari, you have seen firsthand in the ER,

What vaccine preventable disease can do?

What would an increase in vaccine preventable diseases mean for children and families across the country?

It's going to be heartbreaking.

Not only will it overwhelm our health care system, but children will have, some of them will be deaf.

You know, we've seen congenital measles cases in the US, and I think what concerns me is these aren't harmless diseases.

We just saw the case in California of a young child that died of encephalitis from years after measles.

These diseases have long-term consequences, and we don't need, in the US, we have gone so far in reversing this.

We don't want our children to die.

Again, it was audio from a Senate committee here in yesterday, Tammy Baldwin talking to the former head of the Centers for Disease Control and also to the chief medical officer at the CDC.

Now, let's be fair and provide the response from the current spokesperson for the Health and Human Services Department, who of course works for Robert Kennedy Jr.

and Donald Trump.

And give a listen to this statement and tell me which one you think

is better represented of science and health and the facts.

Andrew Nixon, a spokesperson for health and human services, said in an email that Dr. Manares was fired quote, for declaring herself untrustworthy to the secretary and acting maliciously to undermine the president's agenda.

Again, that was the reason Dr. Minarez was fired from heading the CDC.

Untrustworthy to the secretary and acting maliciously to undermine the president's agenda.

What is the president's agenda at this point?

One must ask, in all earnestness, is the president's agenda to so substantially undermine public health that we again have children dying of the measles in this country?

Is it really worth it to gain the reins of power?

by sowing that much mistrust and making yourself appear to be above, you know, doctors, scientists, researchers?

And yet you had Republicans on the committee, again, repeating their criticisms of pandemic era guidance on vaccines and other measures, saying that it helped to foster vaccine hesitancy and distrust.

No, it didn't.

They did.

The politicians did.

The anti-science people did.

That is that's it.

There's a chasm between Americans right now not based on party necessarily not based on ideology not based on urban versus rural but on those who For some ungodly reason We're against basic safeguards to keep people alive in a pandemic and the rest of us who will probably never forgive them for the extra misery and deaths that they caused playing politics with a pandemic

And it continues to this day.

We will talk to Dr. Kelly Snooks about vaccines in our next hour.

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Hey, good morning.

It is 706.

Nice to have you back here up north on a Thursday morning, September 18th, 2025.

Parker Olson is producing the shindig down in Madison Studio A2.

Meteorologist Brittany Merleau is standing by.

So is Trevor Young, a candidate for state senate in the Racine area.

We'll talk about his campaign coming up in just a bit.

And after 7.30, we will talk to Dr. Kelly Snooks, a pediatrician who is now doing a new video series for Up North News.

You can find it on all of our social media feeds and in her newest installment, all about what vaccines

actually are and what vaccines actually do.

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Let's bring in meteorologist Brittany Merleau now to talk about a somewhat rainy morning, depending on where you are.

Brittany, looking at the radar here, it's like all these little splotches around Sean O. Tigerton, around Crandon, around Phillips, somewhere down there near Prairie du Chien.

So, I mean, it's not certain at all whether you're going to get rain or not at this point this morning, right?

No, it's really not.

I got to be transparent with you.

this weekend and the rain and who's going to get it and how much is kind of up on the air at the moment because we've got just a really big complex system moving through.

So it's really hard to forecast.

So what we're looking at this morning is it's about 60 degrees all throughout the state, low to mid upper sixties out there.

Spotty showers mainly north this morning as a front is draped across, but that is going to be dropping south through the state today.

And then we've also got a low pressure system itself inching closer and closer, expected to move in on Saturday and Sunday, potentially bringing some heavy rainfall to places.

So a wet next few days ahead, just make sure you have an umbrella on standby or maybe toss the raincoat in the back seat because you never know when it's gonna happen over the next few days.

Right now we are looking at more clouds north.

Again, spotty sunshine further south and by Lake Michigan today.

Highs will hit about 70 degrees far north and still hanging onto some heat south in the mid 80s.

And we are looking at more storms sparking up this evening, probably after five o'clock or so.

Those are going to be widely scattered and then become more numerous as we go through the overnight.

I do think it's going to target more north and central in the state before it starts to move south.

later on into the weekend.

So tomorrow to be mostly cloudy, it'll be become breezy as well.

Highs still hit 70 up north, 80 down south, and more showers and storms into the afternoon and night.

And then it really ramps up, like I said, into the weekend.

Highs will drop to about 65 north and stayed about 80 south for the weekend.

So another way to put it is thoughts and prayers to Jeep owners everywhere who have to keep the top up.

have to keep the doors on.

I suppose for campers and everybody else too, but

But mostly for Jeep owners.

Mostly for Jeep.

I know.

Brittany and

I we want to single yourself

out guys.

Yep.

We

want to

we want the open air driving.

It's just gonna have to wait.

Things are a little too spotty.

Thank you, Brittany.

Appreciate

it.

Welcome.

All right.

Hey, let's turn right into the 2026 campaign because it's been a busy week.

We had two different candidates for governor announced.

You know, we had state representative Francesca Hong here on the program yesterday.

State Senator Kelda Roy's announced her candidacy on Monday and she will be here on our show next

Monday morning to talk more about her run for governor.

We had Karine Hendrickson on yesterday, breaking the news officially that she's running for state Senate over in southwest Wisconsin.

And now we have a state Senate candidate in southeast Wisconsin to introduce to you.

His name is Trevor Young.

He is a former member of the Racine City Council and is running for the seat currently held by Republican Van Juan Guard Trevor Young.

How are you?

Good morning.

Pat, I feel good.

It's an honor to be on your

show.

Thank you.

Well, it's nice to have you here as well, running in the Racine Area 21st Senate District.

And so let's talk a bit about your own story getting to this point.

And then we'll talk about the race itself.

But and for folks on the radio, his last name is spelled J-U-N-G.

And you can learn more at TrevorYoung.com again, TrevorJ-U-N-G.com and learn about a state senate campaign.

But tell us first a bit about yourself.

Sure, well, I'll start at the beginning.

So I was actually born halfway across the world.

And I was adopted from an orphanage in Russia when I was two.

And so my dad, who's a fourth generation, a resilient and small business owner, raised me and made a life in Racine.

As a product of the public schools and my neighborhood, I grew up with this real sense of gratitude.

You know, wow, life would have been a whole lot different had my dad made a different choice.

And so, you know, being so grateful for my family's love and also so grateful for my community, I grew up with a sense of wanting to give back.

So I went off to university to study urban studies and urban planning because I thought, you know, what can I do for my hometown?

You know, these are local

you know, issues that we can address.

There's a lot of potential where I'm from.

And so I came back after university and ran for city council.

So served two terms on the city council, elected twice, and then was hired on to the city to be the transit director because a passion of mine is transportation, making sure people can get to where they need to go.

Doctors appointments, work, school,

because mobility really equals freedom, making sure that people can be self-reliant and support themselves

and

their families.

So we've done a lot of really exciting things in our scene.

But I've also seen how the state, instead of being an ally in good work and making sure people can support themselves and have that independence, has been an adversary in gutting shared revenue, which is state support for local government, going after public education, making it harder for urban and rural school districts to be able to get the resources that their students need to be able to have the skills to grow up and contribute.

What's inspired me is that I want to see Southeastern Wisconsin be a real destination where people who are skilled can make a life here and then people who are raised here and have quality education can stay.

We're talking to Trevor Young, a candidate for state senate in the Racine area.

And it's very interesting that you mentioned the transit transportation issues.

Because while Van Wongard is the current senator for that area, the previous senator, John Layman, I served with him years ago.

And one of the things that John Layman and I and other legislators were working on were these regional transit authorities in ways to enhance regional transportation to make the

the different modes more in sync, trains and buses and everything, rather than just trying to pave our way to less traffic, which is never going to be the full answer.

So

all

these years later, with former Governor Scott Walker killing the train system, then Republicans still just going full in on cars, cars and nothing but cars, it's interesting that you're still tapping into a public sentiment that says, we need a more comprehensive transit solution.

Absolutely.

I remember that there was a political slogan that said, open for business.

And if you're open for business, you need to invest in multimodal transportation.

Because if you want to attract the next generation of skill, which then brings about major employers to say that they want to locate in your community, that's going to take more than just one type of transportation option.

I mean, this is about options.

Whether it's public transportation, whether it's passenger rail, whether it's

in your own vehicle.

We need to make sure that all of these systems work because that's what makes the region most competitive.

I'll tell you a story.

So we're right between Milwaukee and Chicago.

That's the third largest economic region in the United States.

That's the 10th largest economic region in the world.

Yet the city where I hail from we're seeing struggles with stubborn poverty and unemployment.

And that's because we're the largest city furthest away from an interstate highway.

And so for us, even though we're in the heart of this economic region, we need to do a better job connecting our residents and folks who live in District 21 to opportunity within the corridor.

And so that's a all hands on deck moment for us to get the answer right so that we grow Southeast Wisconsin.

It's been clear from the remarks made by Van Wongard, who has not yet officially stated if he's going to run for another term or not.

But I mean, it is the usual playbook.

You are a Madison, California liberal, raising taxes, boys and girls locker rooms, more San Francisco than Milwaukee.

I'm not seeing anything original here.

So I'm guessing you're probably prepared for all of these talking points and more that are going to come up during the campaign.

Yeah,

I

imagine that that statement was crafted well before anybody announced they were running for the seat.

So I've never lived in Madison.

I've never lived in San Francisco.

I've always lived in Southeast Wisconsin, whether it was going

to UW

Milwaukee for my undergrad or always living in Racine.

And so I think that this campaign is going to be a lot different in terms of tone.

If they're going to take the tact that insults and following national partisan narratives is the way that they're going to address issues, what we're going to do is talk about issues like affordability, good paying jobs, making sure that those who are the most vulnerable have the services that they deserve, making sure that, again, local governments have the resources that they need.

That's a huge element of public safety.

Our police and fire departments are all municipal employees, so we have to make sure that we're providing safe, thriving communities, and that's what our campaign is going to be focused on.

So that will be the big difference.

And of course, now Wisconsin has fairer maps instead of the gerrymandering that essentially drove John Lehman out of that seat.

So the 21st district now is some of the north side of Racine, Caledonia, Raymond, parts of southern Milwaukee County, including Greenfield, Franklin and Hales Corners.

So talk to me about the winnability of that district for a Democratic candidate like you.

Thank you, Pat.

I think we can win this thing.

We're going to work hard.

We're going to earn every vote.

It is an ideal district for a healthy democracy in that it's a 50-50 district.

So you've got to have the better ideas.

You've got to communicate that boldly and connect with people.

And so we're feeling really good about this campaign.

Governor Evers won the district.

Senator Baldwin won the district.

All of the judicial candidates in the last several cycles have won overwhelmingly.

in this district.

President Biden won this district.

Vice President Harris won this district.

So we feel really good about this.

It's always going to be tight and you're going to have to work hard, but I think that the windows at our backs and we're going to have a positive campaign focused on the issues that people care about.

And then finally, of course, we've got to talk about the how did Van one guard produce?

I will not make my opponents youthfulness and an experience an issue in this race.

This actually sounds more like a passing the torch moment.

I mean, in terms of folks of your generation being willing to step up and not just have the apathy that say my generation had at your age.

Yeah, no, that statement even echoed, I think Ronald Reagan.

Oh, yes.

Altered one down.

Yeah.

And

so if we're talking about a different generation, we're definitely

Deciding on it on a new way.

So the old way hasn't worked austerity defunding our public services defunding public schools You know a race to the bottom so that we fight for scraps outside of Madison that has not worked Wisconsin is the third most left or the the bottom third of states where people are leaving and that's not right because we have beautiful natural amenities and we've got great communities and so a better vision means

uh a winning campaign

that's right all right to learn more about trevor young trevor young j u n g dot com and over at facebook look for trevor young four state senate trevor great to meet you uh safe travels thanks for stopping in and telling us a bit more about your campaign

yeah thank you pat i appreciate

it all right we appreciate you uh stepping up and running like that and for visiting with us today dr kelly snooks is still coming up i'm pat quite low this is the civic media radio network

The Milwaukee Brewers were winners yesterday over the Los Angeles Angels.

Nine to two was the final.

Brandon Woodruff looked good, pitched five innings, gave up only two hits and one run, nine strikeouts.

Sal Freelick hit a three run homer.

Blake Perkins had a career high five RBIs and the two teams will face off one more time.

The third and final game of the series is this evening.

at American Family Field 605.

The pregame coverage begins on several civic media radio stations.

Well, I've made it this long, but we couldn't resist our stay away from the trouble.

I mean, the seriously constitutional trouble that is Congressman Derek Van Orden.

And I really have to tip my cap to my old colleagues at WEAU, channel 13 in Eau Claire.

because I have picked on them, I have picked on channels 18 and 19 and Eau Claire and LaCrosse, I have picked on WKBT channel 8 for their coverage of Derek Van Orden, which has been over the past two plus years pretty soft.

when it comes to just covering you know when he when he shows up on a farm and tours the farm and gets to talk about how you know i'm just here fighting for the farmers when there's nothing in his record that indicates that and there's been very little said about his belligerence uh and frankly conduct unbecoming a congressman but he has definitely crossed the line and i'm very happy that the folks at channel 13 took note of that and

reached out to the congressman to talk about all of the threats that he's been making on social media and celebrating the times that people have been fired and threatening to defund places, including cities like Eau Claire in his district, because he does not like how people have expressed themselves over the Charlie Kirk murder, which by the way, they have a right to do.

unless you're Derek Van Orden, who has taken a U.S.

law, a federal law about domestic terrorism, and he now views it through the prism of saying anything critical about Charlie Kirk, or frankly, Republicans or the president equates with domestic terrorism.

You don't believe me?

Give a listen to this bit of an excerpt from the WEAU13 news report talking to Derek Van Orden and trying to start by asking him about all these posts from people who were expressing opinions, but that in and of itself is not threatening language.

That is not domestic terrorism, but listen to how condescending Derek Van Orden gets with the reporter about that.

We asked the congressman about these posts saying they don't seem to be calling for violence.

Here's what he said.

I'm going to say this one more time.

If you look up the US code and read it, it is crystal clear that what they are saying falls under this US statute.

So it's a little frustrating when I have clearly intelligent people like yourself who can read.

that you don't do your homework before you conduct this

interview?

That was a congressman saying that.

Now, I'm not surprised, but I hope a few people are that have finally heard that this is how this guy actually talks.

This is how this guy actually acts.

Now, let me take care of the personal part first, the jackassery that is Derek Van Orden, when he says, you know, clearly intelligent people like yourself who you can read, but you don't do your homework.

I mean, apart from that,

being a jerk move.

The premise on which he bases those insults is completely flawed.

And of course, note how he can't defend it.

He just says, Well, if you read the code, it is crystal clear that what they're saying falls under the statute.

And the reporters ask him again and again, to connect the dots.

What is it about this language in this statute that indicates that this is somehow against the law that this is somehow threatening behavior that this is somehow

you know, providing resources for terrorist acts rather than a mere expression of opinion.

And he can't do it.

He can't do it.

He's asked repeatedly, and if you go to another clip of the interview where Bob Gallagher is trying to get him to clarify his statement, he just talks over about, again, this is part of the Ron Johnson, Donald Trump, JD Van School, is you just talk over the person so much that they finally give up trying to ask the question.

But they don't answer the question.

They know the question that's being asked of them.

Prove that this is somehow actual threatening behavior, much less domestic terrorism.

And they can't do it.

But they've got power right now.

And they're using it.

Again, when Derek Van Orden uses social media to insult and belittle people, well, that just makes him a jerk.

But he's a member of Congress.

He's part of the government.

The First Amendment says the government shall not infringe on the freedom of speech.

But that's what he, as part of the government, wants to do, and he does not like being called out for it.

But he's got the power.

And it's a sense of power that's only going to grow.

It's an ego that's only going to grow.

It's condescension that's only going to grow with the news that yesterday ABC capitulated, surrendered, coutowed, bent the knee, and pulled Jimmy Kimmel off the air.

By the way, not for something he said.

Do not fool yourself into thinking that ABC pulled him for the specific thing that they say that he said.

Now, we could talk about the remark.

I'm not going to.

You go look at the remark and you look in there and you see, again, what is it that is so over the line that it's worth even a day's suspension, much less being pulled off the network indefinitely.

It's not about what Jimmy Kimmel said.

It's what Brendan Carr, the head of the FCC,

a Donald Trump loyalist said in threatening ABC and prior to that, threatening CBS and prior to that, threatening other media.

The head of the FCC, which licenses broadcast stations right now, is not in any way, shape, or form independent or looking out for the freedom of broadcasters and their First Amendment rights to share expressions in the arena of ideas.

Brennan Carr, Donald Trump, JD Vance, Derek Van Orden, and others are in the business right now of trying to silence critics through intimidation, through prosecution, through fear, and through falsehoods.

And corporate America just gave up again with another late night comic.

And they're not going to stop there until more people, including the people at some of these corporations, finally begin pushing back and standing up for themselves.

and for our Constitution.

I'm Pat Crightlow, Europe North.

Tomorrow, of course, we'll have our regular weekend review panel with former U.S.

Attorney Jim Santel, journalist Mark Jacob and Jennifer Scholesi, Courier newsrooms Kia Vacchial, Dr. Kristen Lyerle, Mike Clemens with Sports, Brittany Merleau's weekend forecast.

Just a lot to tune into tomorrow.

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Today, a federal committee that recommends vaccine policy for Americans is going to start meeting to review immunizations that have been in use for a very long time.

It's called the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, ACIP.

And it's expected to vote on shots for COVID and hepatitis B as well as others.

And of course, as we've talked about, the Health Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr.

has frequently baselessly questioned the safety of these vaccines.

And yesterday, you'll recall, we played a clip from Senator Tammy Baldwin talking to Susan Menares, who was ousted as head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention after less than a month, because Menares says Kennedy directed her to commit in advance to approving everything this ACIP board is about to recommend, regardless of the scientific evidence.

With this ongoing campaign trying to undermine public faith and vaccines, it's worth going back to basics and finding out just what vaccines are, what it is that makes them work the way that they do.

And that fits right in the wheelhouse of pediatrician Dr. Kelly Snooks, who is beginning a new video series for Up North News called Raising Wisconsin.

And her latest installment, which was posted yesterday, talks all about vaccines.

We're going to give a listen to that before we talk live with Dr. Kelly Snooks.

Hey Wisconsinites, have you ever wondered exactly what's happening inside your body after you get a vaccine?

Like how is it working to protect you?

I'm Dr. Kelly Stokes, board certified pediatrician and you're here with this week's Raising Wisconsin.

Now let's talk about how vaccines actually work.

The vaccines we get today protect us against so many viruses and bacteria.

And each vaccine contains what we call an antigen for the disease that it's meant to protect you against.

It might be a weakened or killed part of that germ or even a tiny piece of its genetic material.

These antigens essentially mimic the illness and they sound an alarm to your body's immune system.

Your immune system creates what we call antibodies against that particular virus or bacteria.

That way, the next time your body encounters the actual illness, it's like, wait a minute, I know what to do with this.

Then the antibodies that you've stored up, thanks to that vaccine, spring into action and prevent that virus or bacteria from making you severely ill.

It's your body's way of building a powerful defense without having to get really sick first.

That again is Dr. Kelly Snooks who joins us now to talk about the Raising in Wisconsin series she's doing for Up North News.

Dr. Snooks, good morning, how are you?

Good morning Pat.

Thanks for having me on well.

How are you?

Well, thank you very much So nice to have you here and have you doing this series for us?

We're gonna talk much more generally about the series but with vaccines in the news lately I just wanted to check Certainly with my wife being a physician.

I'm imagining that you like her have probably had that

basic vaccines 101 conversation more so recently, maybe then in years past, I mean, it's always been a thing helping parents understand vaccines.

But understanding how vaccines work seems to be much more in the public consciousness these days.

Yeah, you know, I think there has been a lot of discussion about vaccines lately, as we've seen with what's going on today.

And

I think that people are starting to get a lot of information and misinformation and really starting to question what is real and what is not.

So these conversations about how vaccines work, what do they actually protect us against have become far more common now than they were when I was even just doing general pediatrics during my residency training.

And yes, obviously it's part of the world that we live in now.

There's a lot more information, therefore misinformation.

And even if it's not misinformation, again, I think every doctor winces when a patient comes in and they got a referral from Dr. Google.

And Dr. Google said, here's what you have.

And then you have to maybe explain that that may not necessarily be the case.

So let's be sympathetic to the patients there.

We're surrounded by more information than ever before.

So what kind of guidelines do you like to offer your own patients when it comes to what they read and hear versus what they could hear through a visit to your office?

Yeah, you know, I think there's reassurance right that like you had said, there's so much information at their fingertips and they're not wrong to be concerned and look up this information to try and help them understand things a little bit better.

I think when it comes to having those conversations with patients, you know, we in medical school go through so much training on how to actually understand what

Studies have been gone through rigorous testing.

What is some of the evidence that actually works to show that these treatments or vaccines, for example, are safe versus those that are maybe not as safe?

Or what studies are out there that are the ones that people are getting a hold of and being concerned about that actually those studies are not as rigorous or actually have some really big flaws to them?

So I think it's just that reassurance that

you're okay to look this stuff up, but let's kind of go over what is the actual evidence behind these treatments or recommendations that we're giving you.

Yeah, exactly.

And go through it together.

Go through the information because, and this is the awkward part to bring up, but it certainly reminds us of the early months of the pandemic.

Science researchers doctors, they're not infallible.

And as we learned early on in the COVID pandemic, there were still we were still learning our way through that.

But that's not the same as being uninformed.

It's simply taking you where the science takes you to next.

And so less listeners are saying, Oh, there goes another physician and another physician spouse with some kind of a, you know, superiority complex or whatever.

No, there there's still things we don't know out there.

But the alternative is not to just go based on innuendos and rumors and things like that, right?

Right, you know, one of the things that I think we call ourselves in medicine is lifelong learners because medicine is constantly evolving.

But the reason that it's evolving is because, you know, science has advanced so much over the past couple of centuries.

And I actually talked about that in one of my past videos.

But the way that science is evolving, the way that these studies are going on, you know, we are also learning and our recommendations might be changing because of new evidence that we have learned from.

new studies or new treatments that are out there.

We're talking to Dr. Kelly Snook.

She's a pediatrician and is doing a video series for Up North News called Raising Wisconsin, which leads to this question.

Doctors are busy people.

You guys have been studying forever.

You've worked in these long days and now you're doing a video series and you've been making videos on the internet for some time now.

You're not the only doctor doing it, but can you talk to us about why you decided to get onto social media to start bringing these information to folks when you could have just sat in an office with a clipboard all day, but you've decided to be more proactive.

What motivated you?

Yeah, you know, I think social media is a tool that you realize that you can reach so many people.

I am a pediatric intensive care unit doctor, so I am seeing

really sick kids and a lot of what I'm seeing is actually preventable.

So one of the first ways that I took to social media was actually for gun violence prevention because of what I was seeing at the bedside and I think social media is one of those unique tools that can bring people together to connect but then also has this reach that you can't even imagine like how far your videos are actually going and being seen.

And I think it's another way for us to just spread information and awareness about what is going on in the world, what's going on in public health, and as a pediatrician, public health and almost all these policy changes actually impact child health in a way that I don't think people can maybe understand or see.

So it's my goal to kind of break that down and say, hey, here's what's actually going on, and here's how this can actually impact children.

What kinds of things would you like to emphasize in the Raising Wisconsin series, things that either you've already done to start the series or things that you hope to do in the near future?

Yeah, so things that we've already done.

So we have a few videos that are already out.

One is just about like traveling safe during the summer, you know, people are hitting the road, they are flying, airplanes are full of germs.

So how do you stay safe when you're flying?

And then also the history of vaccines is another one that's been out there.

where good vaccines come from in the first place.

We go through the details of the overlap between the cowpox virus and the smallpox virus back from the 1700s.

So we go into detail on that.

And then the one that you had just recently played about how vaccines actually work.

It's not going to be all about vaccines.

We're also going to cover other topics as well.

Seasonal allergies will be coming up, how to stay safe.

in the car as far as car seats and safety go, bug bites, things along those lines.

So everything from general health and wellness about children.

to some of the stuff that's going on.

And I would like to know what other people want to see too, really addressing viewers' comments too, to try and get on those topics.

Yeah, that's been a real focus of the videos is inviting people to share their own questions that can be addressed later on in the series.

Dr. Kelly Snooks is with us.

Tell us a bit about your own background and what where you grew up, what led you to become a physician and go to med school.

Yeah, so I am originally from the South Side of Chicago You know grew up a little girl that I think just was you know that basic I think I want to be a doctor when I grow up and I stuck with it.

I Chose pediatrics and did my pediatrics training on the South Side of Chicago because you know Children really don't have that much impact on their health in the future a lot of the decisions that we make as an adult impact how they end up

in the future.

And I think that as a pediatrician, we have that unique ability to advocate for our patients to ensure that they can live healthy and fulfilling lives in the future.

So that's why I chose Pediatrics and went through that.

I did medical school in my Pediatrics training in Chicago and then came up here to Milwaukee for my ICU training and have been here ever since.

So yeah, that's why I kind of want that route.

And in working as a pediatrician, you talk about the things that you've seen in the ICU and so many times they are preventable.

And we did, again, share some of the audio from people who, including the former chief medical officer of the Centers for Disease Control, Dr. Howrie.

And the soundbite concluded talking about, you know,

how many more children are getting the measles and sometimes getting complications and sometimes dying unnecessarily and that we're seeing that uptick.

And we're in a state here in Wisconsin, which I think would shock a lot of people that when it comes to measles immunizations heading into kindergarten, our rate is low enough now that it doesn't meet the standard for what's called herd immunity.

So can you talk a bit about just measles and kids and getting up to date on those vaccinations and the danger if that that

vaccination rate sinks as low as it has in Wisconsin?

Yeah, so I mean, I think since the time that I've been in Wisconsin or in Milwaukee, and that's since 2018, you know, we've had already two measles outbreaks.

And like you said, our vaccination rates are really low in Milwaukee, below that herd immunity.

Basically, that herd immunity rate is that enough people are protected against measles, that if one individual were to get the measles, the rest of the community is protected enough that we will likely be able to

overcome that and we won't see a large outbreak.

Measles can be very scary when children get it.

It can cause you know brain damage and ultimately death from that measles virus and that's why we emphasize so much those kindergartners you know and actually even younger you get it at one year to start getting that measles mumps and rubella vaccine to protect themselves against these severe illnesses that they

to those that are even younger.

So if you think about the children that are under one that haven't been immunized yet against the measles, mumps, and rubella, those individuals are even more so at risk because when we don't have that herd immunity, then they also don't even have the chance to get themselves vaccinated yet.

There are some unique circumstances, so I recommend everybody talking to their pediatrician about that if you're under a year old and want to get your child vaccinated against the measles.

Absolutely.

And again, for more, you can check out the Raising Wisconsin video series on the Up North News social media feeds and send in your questions as well that Dr. Kelly Snooks can use for a future video installment.

Kelly, it's great to talk to you again.

Thank you so much for all you do.

Have a wonderful day.

Thank you so much for having you as well.

All right, good to have you here.

Coming up in our next hour, we will talk to Sean O'Malley about your money and the markets.

And what does it really mean that the Federal Reserve lowered interest rates a little bit yesterday as the economy sits on the verge of stagflation?

Plus, Joseph Pecky and more.

I'm Pat Crightlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

Well, it's another busy day of quality programming across the Civic Media radio network.

Let me tell you about it.

And I'm going to work the other way this time.

I'm going to start at the end of the day and work my way up.

Actually, it's going to be completely disjointed and you'll see why.

But Night Light tonight with Pete Schwabba includes the popcorn pick of the week with writer Victoria Davis.

Mike Clemens will be along to talk about sports on Maggie Dawn show this afternoon from four to six.

At 4.35, she will be talking to Robert Benson, who is the Associate Director for National Security and International Policy at the Center for American Progress.

Matt Nair on Air follows this fine program from 9 to 11.

Jane Matt Nair and Greg Bach will be talking to former US Attorney Jim Santel at 9.35 this morning.

and a 1035 with JR Radcliffe, Journal Sentinel Sports Reporter.

So again, that's Matt Naranair from 9 to 11.

And I can hear you now going, well, didn't you forget somebody?

I mean, did I know Jimmy Kimmel, you know, is out there?

Did they finally, did they finally get Todd all the two?

No, he's here.

We were just saving it for last.

Todd will have representative Francesca Hong on this afternoon at 235.

New candidate for governor if

he hasn't canceled between now and then and you know that's always up to you know forces beyond ours but i have i have taught pretty good faith in in civic media man management that they're not going to be surrendering to donald trump anytime soon

well you hope not you hope not uh

Yeah, I mean we're I mean you got the great get first first to get to state rep hauling on yesterday great interview and we're looking forward to chatting with her today at 235 and then at 335 Keegan Kelly of cracked.com Who was just on a few weeks ago talking about the cancellation of Colbert is back today to talk about the latest situation with Jimmy Kimmel and I know you talked about earlier in the show, so they don't need to rehash all of it, but

That's okay.

It was six o'clock in the morning.

Yeah, we a few people have have been awakened since that time.

And I told you off air, I said it jokingly about, you know, I didn't think I'd be in the business of defending Jimmy Kimmel because I would be much more likely to watch Stephen Colbert.

Or sometimes Jimmy Fallon if I don't want anything controversial at all to be said.

But Jimmy Kimmel's a good guy.

He's funny.

And as I've made clear, he let's not kill ourselves.

He was not

Canned and he probably is gonna be canned but I'm jumping to conclusions here

not for

anything that he said not for anything that he said and Donald Trump gave away the game with a tweet afterwards that called on NBC to fire Seth Meyers and Jimmy Fallon again without pointing to anything that they said They're just trying to turn everything into if not state-run media then then media that is afraid of the state

Well, this is right out of the playbook or friend tribules and can speak to this but it's right from Victor Orban

and where you get rid of dissenting voices, not because they're inciting violence, but because they're challenging the authority of the people in elected office.

And I think it's really, really dangerous.

I saw Jimmy Kimmel clip for which he was allegedly suspended over for...

There's there's he didn't say anything that why I I literally played part of the clip myself on our show last week The part where Trump was getting ready to go off to Europe and and one of the Fox reporters I believe said mr. President sorry for your loss about your friend Charlie Kirk How are you doing it with a smile on his face?

He said I think I'm doing well and by the way right over here is the new ballroom that we're doing And and so Kimmel played that after he he said, you know look Magus trying to do everything they can to get this

shooter convinced people they had nothing to do with MAGA.

There's nothing, in my opinion, disrespectful about that.

Kimmel was simply putting the truth out there.

And it's very dangerous times, in my opinion.

As you said, now he's calling on Fallon and Seth Meyer to go as well.

I do think, I mean, you were broadcasting, Pat, you sat behind the anchor desk at EAU in Eau Claire.

I think civic media is licensed because here's the thing, people broadcast television, ABC, CBS affiliates, and radio, commercial over-the-air radio stations have to be licensed by the FCC.

Places like MSNBC, Cable does not, or podcasting does not.

I don't think it's out, you tell me Pat.

Are we reaching the point where as we reach a new gubernatorial election and shows like you in mind on this network are rightfully critical of MAGA people in office or running for office and just for craps and giggles?

They go to the FCC chair and say, get rid of civic media.

And they threaten all the broadcast licenses of this network.

Well, and if not threaten the license, then go to either owners or investors.

Again, in the case of Kimmel is that you had these two big groups like Nextstar and what's the other one, Sinclair.

And these have ownerships that are, you know, equally in bed with Donald Trump.

And so they're the ones who are making these decisions.

I'll say this much about licensed outlets like these, because of the time we live in.

They can try to come after licenses, but thanks to the interwebs and thanks to, you know, good old American ingenuity and rebelliousness, we haven't used this term for a while.

But if they come after licenses, he used to this term, pirate radio.

Yeah, you're gonna see

you're

gonna see unlicensed stations popping up and internet stations that are popping up if they think they can somehow silence dissent through this campaign of intimidation and and legal maneuvers They're sadly mistaken and you can just feel the votes trickling away in 2026 as more moderates see this and go Hold on.

I'm no Democrat, but I'm also not a fascist and we're not we're not gonna be doing this.

We're not gonna be you know

pulling people's broadcast licenses for just being opposed to the ruling party.

That's not how it goes here in America.

No better person I'd like to be on a pirate radio pontoon boat with Lake Wasota than Pat Crichtlow.

That's right.

It's Crichtlow and all-ball pirate pontoon radio from Lake Wasota in the future.

I don't know.