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Civic Media's news director, Shaly Pittman, is going to join us after the 9 30 news to give a little breakdown of the weekend news.
Some of that we're going to start off with, but Shaly will help us dig a little deeper into snap benefits.
They're on, they're off, they're on, they're off the Senate deal that we're going to talk about in just a second.
In our number two, if you are on Medicare or you are signing up for Medicare, Ingrid Cundinger is going to join us.
She is the Wisconsin senior medic.
Medicare Patrol Program Director.
There is a big difference between Medicare and Medicare Advantage.
And if you were like a friend of mine who is 87 and got 22 phone calls the other day, 22 for people trying to sell him different Medicare Advantage plans, you're going to want to stick around for Ingrid explaining what the differences are Medicare.
Medicare Advantage, they're not the same thing.
So we're gonna break that down.
In hour number two, we'll wrap up the show as we always do with this.
Shouldn't be a thing.
Today it is the, you can check out, but you can never leave edition.
So stay tuned for that.
Joining us right off at the top, since Craig is out today, he is a political consultant and a friend of the show.
Joseph Hecke is here.
Good morning.
How are you?
Thank you.
left?
Counting them down?
I am not counting them down.
I think it's about five weeks.
I think five weeks.
December 12th will be my last show.
But it's been an incredible run.
It's been... I've learned so much and I couldn't be happier with...
Having civic media be the home that I'm gonna wrap things up at I really I couldn't think of a better ending to four
Well, thank you very much.
We hope to have you on in the last two weeks, in my last two weeks, so we can just kick some things around.
I wanted to start off with you, since you are a political consultant and this what we were in the longest government shutdown in history.
Still are.
Still are.
Still are.
It's not over yet.
But now it looks like we're on the cliff of an agreement.
From your perspective, Joe, where where are we on this government shutdown?
Late last night, there was a breakthrough and.
eight Democrats, there had been like between four and six in the Senate who had been voting to try to get things moving.
Last night, they finally got to eight.
So there were 60 votes.
And today, the wreckage from that announcement is on full display.
You know, it feels like kind of whiplash.
where last week there was an election.
We sometimes say, I think it was Daniel Patrick Moynihan who said we govern in prose, but we campaign in poetry.
Poetry time was done last week.
It was a huge night for Democrats.
And now it's prose time.
Now it's sausage making time.
And so the outlines of this deal, as I understand it, are that the government will be fully funded
through January of next year.
So about two and a half months, USDA Veterans Affairs, the Food and Drug Administration, and Congress will be funded until the end of next year.
So that will include, SNAP will be operational throughout 2026.
We will undo all of the reductions in force that Russ vote.
the architect of project 2025.
And so all of the civil servants who the Trump administration laid off in the last 40 days will get their back pay and will come back to work.
So things like air traffic will once again get unstuck in time for people to head home for the holidays or to take that Christmas vacation.
All of those are good things.
The $64,000 question is what the heck just happened on the healthcare tax credits.
And that is why people are big mad this morning.
It sounds like John Thune, who is the Republican leader of the Senate, has guaranteed Democrats not just a vote, but control of the floor.
And that's a little, what the heck is that?
It's a little esoteric.
What that means is Democrats will decide what the legislative package
to advance the Affordable Care Act tax credits looks like.
That is actually a big deal that Democrats get to say, here is the legislation.
So that's a good thing if John Thune keeps his word on the vote and on the ability for Democrats to control the floor.
Here's the problem.
Here's why I think people are very upset this morning.
Mike Johnson and the House weren't part of this deal.
And Mike Johnson already this morning is saying,
We didn't make any deal.
I'm not guaranteeing a vote on extending these subsidies.
And so that's, I think, where the conflict comes in and where a lot of people online are saying Democrats caved.
I don't think I'd go that far.
I think, given the harm to the 40 million Americans who are on snap, it's about one in eight.
given what we're seeing in terms of air traffic and the risks going through the roof of people who want to go see grandma and grandpa for Thanksgiving.
This was the best deal that Democrats in the Senate were going to get after 40 days where they said, or 30 of them, where they said,
If we don't extend these subsidies, if we don't make health care costs more affordable for families, no deal, then Democrats finally said, okay, you know what, we'll just extend them for one year.
Let's just push this past the midterms.
And Republicans from Donald Trump on down still said, no way, over our dead body, not gonna happen.
And so at that point, and I don't always love this analogy, but a lot of times people talk about hostage taking.
But if we use that metaphor,
Republicans have made clear they're prepared to shoot the hostages.
Oh, absolutely.
They don't care.
No, they don't care.
don't care the kids
Well, I kind of feel that the same thing about John Thune has promised.
Oh, OK.
Great.
On the one hand, I understand.
I understand to some extent why Democrats agreed to this.
However.
It just seems we are back to the old kicking the can down the road.
This only funds things until the end of January.
We're going to be back here at the end of January.
And I guess the one good thing I see coming out of this, Joe, is that Republicans will have to go on the record on not wanting to do anything about health care.
But that isn't going to help people whose premiums are going up by 85, 95, 100 percent.
Yeah, listen the the play by Democrats here is this shutdown started before people were getting their renewal Notices before open enrollment for next year right start to happen And so it wasn't totally clear yet You know to a lot of consumers in the marketplace just how much those costs were gonna go up and so the other sort of Not wild about metaphor, but I can't think of a better one.
It's like The pin has been pulled on the grenade
Because now people are seeing how much their costs are going up and are trying to figure out how they're going to afford it.
And now Democrats have tossed the grenade with the pin pulled over to Republicans.
And I want to be really clear.
I'm only talking about it in a metaphorical sense.
There is no place for political violence.
Full stop.
But this is going to come to a head.
And the time is now.
to have everybody line up and say, this is what I'm for.
This is what I'm against.
There is one other part of this, and I'm not sure how much time we have until the break.
Go ahead.
We got time.
But there is another special election for Congress on December 7th.
Yes.
And what that election will do is change the math in the house.
for how many signatures you need on a discharge petition to force a file on the Epstein votes.
I'm not convinced that Senate Democrats didn't do us all a favor by forcing the action, by putting the ball in play so that the House of Representatives has to come back.
and they have to swear in the new Congresswoman from Arizona who has been denied her seat for more than 40 days after winning her election.
She is the 218th signature on the discharge petition to force the vote on the Epstein files.
And so that is about to happen.
And if you waited until after the December 7th election, if the Republicans win that, it's like a plus 20 Republican district,
That would take the math back to one short again.
And so I'm not, you know, there could be some three-dimensional chess here.
If you're just joining us, Joseph Peggy, political consultant is our guest.
Greg is off today and we're talking about the pending deal, it seems, among the Senate actually to reopen the government.
But you make a very good point, Joe, about
It's all in the details.
And the one thing that's amazing me now, even this morning, is seeing Republicans go on about, we have pages of plans.
We have pages and pages of ideas and concepts of plans for healthcare.
They've had 15 years.
to look seriously at an overhaul.
Nobody says the ACA is perfect.
It's not perfect, but it's better than what we had before.
And I go back to we get collective amnesia about what things were like before the ACA, when people who had preexisting conditions like, I don't know, being a woman couldn't get coverage.
exactly
it was blatant discrimination and it made healthcare inaccessible for millions of americans so i'm with you the affordable care act is not perfect but i also think republicans kind of told on themselves and i i would not be surprised if some of the democratic thinking
among those eight senators, was like, how do you seriously negotiate with a president of the United States who came up with the most cockamamie idea you've ever heard on health insurance over the weekend, where he was like, instead of extending the subsidies, we're just gonna give every American money that they can turn around and pay for health care.
Isn't the point of government to act as that middleman, make things just a little bit easier,
And she says like, okay, how do you negotiate with that crazy person who has that crazy idea?
Well, and again, so if you send money directly to people, then they have to go to a health insurance company to get coverage.
But as
the health insurance companies to hold down costs for consumers.
We're going to give the money to the consumers.
Who are they going to turn around and give it to the big bad boogeyman at the insurance companies?
Well, it just didn't make a lot of sense.
And then over the weekend, I was doing a little investigating into our elected officials and just who takes insurance money.
Gosh, a lot of our elected officials take money from the insurance companies.
That's why it was so surprised to hear all the we hate them.
They're evil.
They're boogey, boogey, boogey.
Except when it comes to them writing checks.
Yep, that is a whole different thing.
We're going to continue our conversation with Joseph Hecke, political consultant when we return corruption Palooza, baby.
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Joe, I call it corruption, Palooza, because it just never seems to end.
This from ABC News, Trump pardons Rulee Giuliani.
And other key figures allegedly involved in trying to overturn the 2020 election among these pardons include former WISC GOP Secretary Kelly Rue, former Dane County Judge Jim Trupas, and WEC Commissioner Bob Spindel, also got Trump pardons for the fake elector scheme.
The state case, however, remains ongoing.
Are you surprised by this?
Absolutely.
And that
A couple of names you missed.
Andrew Hitt, former Republican chair.
You know, Chesbro is on the list.
All of these clowns who tried to steal the 2020 election had to wait 10 months longer than the guys and gals who beat up cops.
Yeah.
on january 6th and so i'm not surprised but i'm infuriated i like i said this last week on a different program but we have to sometimes try to see the positive amid this madness and nothing has ever made the case for pardon reform in this country like donald j trump the founders screwed this one up and it's okay to say that it is the only power
vested in the executive where there is no check, there is no balance, they can do whatever the hell they want.
And it should boil the blood of every American that he can just wipe away the criminal liability for people who bloodied and battered law enforcement officers.
And this, as part of the same conspiracy,
to steal the 2020 election was, again, I don't know what took so long.
The timing makes me wonder what is going on right now, but I'm just mad as can possibly be.
Well, and I think this just
continues to feed into the narrative I saw on social media over the weekend because the president was golfing over the weekend in case anyone wonders where he was he wasn't in Washington he was in Florida at Mar-a-Lago and apparently over the weekend they had a video running in the background about how he actually won the 2020 election this is going to continue now and with these pardons I think this is just going to make it worse that he is going to continue
that narrative that he won he won he won he won
absolutely
The writing is on the wall.
They are trying to do everything they can to prevent the release of the Epstein files.
And I think the job for all of us who understand what's at stake here is to not take the bait and go all the way down the rabbit hole on these pardons because the reality is Republicans
are forcing Americans to pay more for health care next year.
And, you know, that is something that impacts millions of Americans.
And this, you know, I don't really love the like, oh, this is a distraction from that game.
But he's clearly like Republicans know they're losing on this.
And Donald Trump doesn't know how to talk about affordability.
He doesn't know how to lower costs for Americans, despite the fact that that's what he was elected to do.
And so he's just going to continue to feed his rage machine because it's the only thing they know how to do.
Well, and it works.
It works.
Anger and fear.
They're very effective in getting people, you know, that's why when you go on social media and you watch certain things, the algorithm will continue to feed those things because it is effective.
And I agree with you.
I think we're just a couple of weeks away from Jolaine Maxwell walking.
And I think his supporters, his hardcore supporters will be, well, he must know something that we don't.
Well, this has already cost him the Epstein controversy, the inability to release the list, the way that he has treated Maxwell.
He is seeing cracks in his coalition for the very first time.
The names we know are all the podcast bros who are like, wait a minute, man, you said you were going to release this stuff.
And whether it's that, whether it is people who voted for him who now can't sell their soybeans or find a way to move this year's crop, whether it is folks who are seeing their SNAP benefits expire or get complicated or their health care costs go up, or even people who wanted to crack down on immigration but didn't want masked thugs.
holding American citizens without due process, depriving them of their liberty.
There are people on the right who realize that like the jig is up.
Donald Trump is not who they thought they were voting for.
And that's part of why you saw such political success for Democrats last week.
And I think there's a lot more of that coming in the year ahead.
Well, let's hope that Rudy Giuliani and Chesborough and all those guys aren't looking at what they can do next to muck up.
next year's elections, because that's what we have to worry about next.
Yes.
Thank
We're celebrating.
One win.
Joseph Peckie is a political consultant and a friend of the show.
Thank you so very much for your time.
Really appreciate it, Joe.
We'll see you in a couple.
Great to see you, Jane.
Talk to you.
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Good morning, Shaly.
How are things in Park Falls this morning?
Yeah.
Yeah, Racine got hit pretty well last night.
I was not expecting that as I was driving in this morning.
We're going to talk about that next hour at this time.
Actually, we're going to talk about winter driving for Audio Sorbet and pet peeves about winter driving coming up an hour from now.
But right now, we're going to do a little recap.
So much to talk about, Shali.
Snap is on.
Snap is off.
Snap is on.
Snap is off.
What is going on with the Snap benefits as of?
937 on Monday, November 10th.
I think what you just described is a quote, continual state of whiplash, which is according to a filing today, how Governor Evers and a collection of other states are describing what's happened over the last three or four days.?
I am attempting to...?
Make a timeline in my notes here.?
So I think I have it but but things are going to change as of You know later today, right,?
right?
today that Governor Evers and others are in court, again, asking for a court's assistance to restrict the Trump administration from enforcing another letter.?
But let's start at the beginning.?
On Friday, there was a federal judge who ordered the Trump administration to fully fund benefits for this month, right??
We all, that's kind of where some folks maybe checked out for the weekend.?
Food, food chairs back on, great.?
Because?
the governor, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but the governor loaded people's snap cards on Friday, right?
So that Saturday morning when they got up, their benefits were there.
Right, Wisconsin was one of a few states that released the full aid, and that's really important, Jane.?
They released the full benefits to folks.?
So the way this actually works is kind of through a vendor system.?
So the Department of Health Services and Wisconsin submitted?
the full benefits to our vendor and those benefits were activated.?
Folks reported seeing their cards full for November.?
So people have been buying food.?
What happened though is that the U.S.?
Treasury denied the transaction to authorize the payment of full benefits.?
because there had been a previous ruling about funding, you know, half funding or funding 35% of funding benefits, but the US Treasury denied the transaction to authorize the full benefits.?
DHS had submitted, you know, the full request.?
Then on Friday night, the Trump administration submitted a request to the Supreme Court, the US Supreme Court, which caused?
that day's order from a federal judge saying that we'd like to put this on hold.?
Now, they didn't say that they were going to do that in their guidance from the USDA earlier that day, and that was pointed out in yet another legal filing.?
And on Saturday, I think it's Saturday, the Trump administration demanded that states quote, undo, unquote, the work that they had done?
saying
35% or whatever.
Yeah.
Right.?
Reduction, which by the way, I'm that doing that in the way that that would actually work for the vendor would cause a good amount of delay as well.?
Just because this, this works through a vendor system that then reimburses, you know, the.?
Folks giving out snap benefits rate the folks, you know selling the food, right??
So this just takes a while to sort out because it's new because it's a huge program so.?
Yeah, and then, you know, in that filing where the Trump administration demanded that states like Wisconsin undo their work, they said that if you don't, we could, the USDA could cancel the federal share of state administrative costs.?
it would hold states liable for any quote over issuance that results from non-compliance, unquote.?
So that means, hey, you're responsible basically for this 35%.?
And where we are today, also according to probably a different filing, there are, quote, insufficient SNAP funds to reimburse retailers for the provision sold to SNAP recipients.?
So, without immediate action, Wisconsin DHS will likely exceed its line of credit on Monday, November 10th.?
Now, it gave out some numbers that, as of Friday, Wisconsin's balance was about 19.5 million, and...?
people are using their, their,?
well, yes.
It's not like we talked about that with Joseph Pecky before you joined us.
By the way, if you're just joining us on matinee or on air, civic media news director, Shali Pittman is joining us on the phone as she does every Monday to do a little recap.
And we're talking about the back and forth about snap benefits over the weekend.
The one thing I do want to say is that.
So the court said on Friday, yes, the government has to pay for SNAP.
Governor Evers said, great, so we filled up everybody's cards.
Court came back the next day after the Trump administration tried to stop it and said, now you have to claw it back.
And Governor Evers essentially came back with a one-word response and said, no.
Pretty much.
Yeah.?
No, there were, there was a flurry of press releases from the governor's office.?
Um, and that's, that's where I think the quote actually came from.?
No.?
said Governor Evers, pursuant to and consistent with an active court order, Wisconsin legally loaded benefits to cards ensuring nearly 700,000 Wisconsinites had access to basic food and groceries, that's according to press release number two.?
And earlier one had announced a coalition of states urging a court to reject the effort to quote, yank benefits.?
And so again, I think the the watchword is confusion or again, I like the phrase the continual state of whip black.?
Well, I don't understand how so the government said you have to claw back this money.
How is that supposed to work?
Are some people supposed to bring back the eggs that they scrambled and take them back to the store?
It doesn't work like
is as good as mine.?
I am not an expert.?
I tried to look up a little more on like how food share funding actually works and gets funded because it probably gets very, you know, administrative here very soon.?
But I don't know.?
Your guess is as good as mine.?
We're kind of in unprecedented territory here.?
I think in a press release today, the Evers administration pointed out that?
In a span of less than a week, there have been multiple guidance documents from the USDA, the Department of Agriculture, which like administrates the funding, right, along with the Treasury.?
And they say that each has been inconsistent with the prior one, right, which is what's caused that continual state of whiplash.?
So that's, yeah, Calvin, I hope you choose that as the title for?
today.
Just we'll call it whiplash.
It's just continual whiplash now with the Senate on the cliff of it looks like a deal to open up the government Does this mean that snap once this half because this is gonna take several days.
It's not like it's gonna happen today Is that gonna make all of this moot?
I'm so bad at prognostication, right??
I don't know.?
I think one thing that, I don't wanna say what could happen because I really don't know.?
I mean, I wish, again, your guess is as good as mine.?
The only thing I'm looking at is, like you said, how would you claw this back??
Clearly, folks are using the?
money.
The benefits are there, yeah, they're spending
probably pretty relieved.?
So it's hard to know exactly what would happen if that vendor payment, the money in the fund basically runs dry.?
But we're gonna find out more today because there's a court hearing, there's a legal filing, or they're requesting a court hearing.?
I would assume that that probably happens today.?
I don't know what time it is.?
That's where we are.?
Well, and I just want to remind folks, if you are in a position to be able to help a local food pantry or something, I would really encourage you to donate.
Even if you can only donate a couple jars of peanut butter, that would make a big difference.
And if you're not on social media, you might not have seen over the weekend the lines of outside of some food pantries around the country.
This is affecting a lot.
of people and these are probably people within your own neighborhoods that you don't realize are struggling so again if you can donate whatever you can donate people a lot of times will think shawley i've only got an extra five dollars well you know what if a hundred people
donate $5 that adds up to something.
So every little bit counts, every little bit counts.
And
if you can donate cash, I know at least as far as groups like Second Harvest and Feeding America, they can make those dollars go further because they can buy in bulk.
So if you're able to make a cash donation to a food pantry, that is fantastic.
Again, if you can only donate a couple jars of peanut butter, I know that they would be grateful for that as well.
Yes.
That was an article this morning.
That students are, you know, struggling, right??
And they have a quote from a student who says, hey, this distracts me in the classroom.?
I can't focus, right, if I'm hungry.?
And the colleges survey their students about food insecurity.?
And I think it was...?
Half of UW Milwaukee.?
those surveyed last year, experienced food insecurity, right??
Yeah,?
it affects a lot of people that, yeah, it affects a lot of people that I think we just don't assume would be hurt by something like this.
We're going to continue our discussion with Shelly Pittman, Civic Media News Director and data centers on the other side.
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Civic Media's news director on the road in Park Falls, Shaly Pittman is joining us.
Shaly, we talked last week about data centers and they continue to be in the news this week.
Where are we on that?
I last Friday attempted to Wrap it all up into one and I'm sure still missed a couple things so but you can kind of read this article on civicmedia.us It's called data centers become the watchword and you know?
I was trying to write one thing about data centers and then something else happened?
on
And so I just.?
tried to put it all together.?
So starting last week, last Wednesday, there was an informational hearing at the Capitol that lawmakers held, a committee held on quote, demystifying data centers and AI.?
And this flew under the radar, but it had representatives from all sorts, like dozens of groups, including Microsoft, Google, Vantage, and so on.?
And I thought it was?
pretty interesting to watch.?
I haven't anything to go back over it but you know I think they made the point they tried to quote unquote demystify and made the point that you know some of these facilities are state of the art right and that folks use data centers in their daily lives?
right
Of
Well, I again obviously in something like that It's gonna be all the good things the data centers bring right and this is such a plus and they're not going away and so yes, but there are still a lot of concerns people have Particularly when it comes to water usage and energy usage usage Within their communities where these data centers want to be built.
Do they address any of that
an environmental group spoke as well, right??
And I think key takeaway here is that not all data centers are the same, right??
Or that's at least what the spokes folks wanted to emphasize, right??
Which is you hear this, like there's an open water loop and then a closed water loop, right??
And so the closed water loop, right??
The idea is that the water never leaves the dang building and that, you know, it is not quote so much, right??
But?
fewer millions of gallons.
And also, that still doesn't take away the fact that if it does create jobs, it's a massive campus.?
And so just in the normal course of people working at a place and using the restrooms and drinking water and all of that also can contribute.?
They spoke about energy usage.?
Many have pointed to creating their own grids and that consumers won't pay, saying that the consumers won't pay the cost.?
of rising utility prices, which is a hard thing to prove empirically, right??
You can build a renewable energy grid, and yet it seems like prices are always going up for consumers.?
How do you track that is something that I'm grappling with, but I wanted to point folks to that.?
Um, if they, they were interested, um, that's on Wisconsin.?
I, um, and that, that happened last Wednesday.?
I believe it was the committee on science, technology and AI.?
Um, then on Thursday though, Thursday is when there was a lot happening.?
So, um, gubernatorial candidates at the first.?
forum of the 2026 election cycle were asked about data centers.?
This is going to be, I think, a part of campaigns.?
Sure.?
You know, it made it in.?
It was hosted by, oh, I forget exactly who, it's a technology group, the Wisconsin Technology Council.?
And, you know, they, candidates, mostly Democrats, there was one Republican who showed up, Josh Showman.?
They offered answers that were kind of tried to be in the middle and highlight the pros and cons of economic opportunity versus regulation.?
So we can kind of get a sense of where the gubernatorial candidates can be headed for that.?
There's also, I'm just looking at the time, I'll speed up.?
There was a state lawmaker on Thursday who also announced a bill for a regulatory framework.?
after this informational hearing, Dane County leaders are announcing a resolution to create an advisory committee, and that's in response to a proposal to build one here in Dane County.?
This stuff happening tonight at Jamesville.?
Yeah, my notes, you can read it.?
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