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500th Episode Extravaganza and Outrageous Outbursts (Hour 2)
John & Gordy · Fri Sep 12, 2025
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Yes.
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That's right.
I'm beginning to feel a little scared.
Or us scared.
Oh, I wouldn't be a scared if I
were you.
This is episode number 500.
Can
you believe that?
John and Morty Show, yeah.
This is just unbelievable.
We never thought this would happen.
Truly.
Truly.
Good morning, Dom Lee.
Good
morning.
What is your extraordinaire?
How
are you?
I'm doing pretty good.
Not too bad.
Do you see the pink
envelopes that we have in our mailbox?
No.
No, I didn't see.
I walked by and
I didn't check it
out.
Oh, OK.
I didn't even know you guys had mailboxes.
We don't.
They used to have them, though.
Yes,
yes, a
little bin where you
get your mail and
stuff like that.
Yeah, yeah.
And you'd get public service announcements.
You get all kinds of junk mail thrown in there and then every once in a while, yeah, a pink slip or a paycheck or something.
Yeah, some kind of pale.
It was always fun to see what would come in
next.
Oh boy.
I guess it's a little foggy in some locations this morning, but it
doesn't
look too bad downtown, although you can see it if you're looking at the capital.
It's dark in the morning now, isn't it?
634 sunrise time.
Yeah.
And sunset time 712.
It's going to be a warm day, highs close to 80 today, right now 55 degrees, but look out for some of that dense fog this morning.
Of course, the fog will dissipate.
It'll
evaporate.
A sun will eventually burn it off.
Fog does not burn, but you can keep trying.
Get a blow torch, see what happens.
I don't know.
Gosh, you go off the deep end every time I say it.
I don't care anymore.
I honestly do not care.
It bothers you.
It really does bother you.
Oh yeah, stay awake at
night just thinking about.
How can I stop him when I'm saying burning fog?
Well, so now he's gonna be angry.
I'll show a loan.
Our 500 show is gonna be angry.
Not angry.
He's gonna bottle it in.
What are you saying?
A little bit later on, just a few minutes from now, we're gonna check in with Pam Yonkey.
Haven't had her on for a while.
Yeah,
she's
back.
Boy, we got a lot to talk about with her, too.
Packers, Packers won last night.
Yeah.
Did they?
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
They beat the commanders.
Yeah.
Quite handily.
I did I yeah, I didn't wait to see the rest of it.
They were doing pretty well though.
Yeah,
and Sabana told me Olson will join us also Brittany Marlowe and a surprise guest
on the way I'll be darned.
Yeah, you wouldn't who could be
you wouldn't reveal that to me would you?
No, please can I just Sit my wife
All right, maybe it is maybe
yeah, and of course rocker will be here in our next hour with a max ink preview Be good to see him to see what he's up to.
I think his is this show this weekend
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was actually news people in here in the studio yesterday.
That's right channel 15 was here.
Yeah.
Yeah
It's really cool.
Yeah, do you watch them interview rocker?
I didn't.
I moved away, but they were saying, you know, we got you got an interview with the rocker.
Pretty important.
I was like, OK, I'm out of here.
You know, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, his big show
is this coming Sunday.
You left in a big huff, didn't you?
Yeah.
Thinking off.
Well, I thought you'd be here for Johnny Gordy, but I guess not.
Yeah.
You don't want to be stormed out.
You don't want to be
big huff.
Thank
you.
A little huff is good enough.
That's what I always say.
Yeah,
Rocker's
Big Show is this weekend, Sunday, actually, September 14th from 2 to 7 p.m.
His band Iron Plow is playing along with Mother Hive, Revolution X, and Abandon's End.
Abandon?
Okay, I don't know what that says.
That The Crucible, which is on Commercial Avenue in Madison.
So he'll tell us more about that.
So, here we are.
Well, a little bit later on, after seven o'clock, we'll be talking to Savannah.
And I do have a story that Savannah had yesterday, and I'm dissecting that story.
In that same break, we talked to Savannah in.
So, I have a few comments about this.
It is, it's about public schools.
And what's happening with that and what the Republicans have planned for public schools in Wisconsin.
And it's not good.
It isn't really good.
Really?
Yes.
All right.
So we'll get to that.
We'll do a deep dive into
that.
Deep dive.
Yes, that's it.
Deep dive.
We're going to unpack that story and
all these phrases.
Break.
Think it's time for would you rather what do you think?
For the 500th episode That's your cue I
almost didn't want to do it.
All right.
Here we go.
I Heard it was a really good question today.
You're a liar All right
Okay first question
You know, you gotta do it in reverb
one of these days.
Any other questions?
Yeah, yeah.
We were thinking about doing the whole show in reverb.
We could do that, yeah.
Man, they wouldn't even hear what we were saying.
First question, would you rather be an extra in an Oscar-winning movie or the lead in a box office bomb?
Extra in Oscar-winning movie, lead in a box office bomb?
I don't know, I was an extra in one movie one time that was shot in Chicago.
And it was kind of fun.
I think I'd do that again.
What movie was it?
It was called Four Friends, I think.
And it was an Arthur Penn movie.
Arthur Penn was in there directing everybody.
It was a party scene.
And so there were like 50 people you know in
the
party and I was just one of them in the background
You know I mean
I watched the movie over and over again could not see any any part of myself in there So yeah,
but it was
fun.
It was shot in Chicago
Remember the guy we had on our three or four day cable access show I used to help us produce the show every once in a while.
Hmm tall african-american guy He was in a movie where he played a drug kingpin and then he was chased out of
an apartment by either, you know, one of the big stars.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't remember this at all.
Wow.
Okay.
I
just thought
I'd
drift on memory lane, but you know, someone's
memory is so hot.
Nope.
Nope.
All right.
Okay.
What would you rather?
John, you want to be an extra in a movie or are you going to be the lead in a bomb?
I
want to be a lead in the bomb.
I just think that's a great thing to kind of hold on to.
I was
thinking the same thing.
I want to be, you know, I want
to be the main character.
Yeah, I want to be able to, you know, just joke about it.
Yeah.
Joke about being a movie like that.
Yeah.
I
mean, you know, Pete Schwabba does that about his movie kind of,
you know, he
makes fun of himself, but it's a good movie.
Right, right.
Yeah, he was the lead.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, I would do the same thing as John.
John you persuaded me.
There you go.
I've got
some work to do.
I have
my assignment.
Wow.
Pretty rough there.
Yeah, my bad.
All right.
Stretch your left this morning.
All right.
All
right.
You have another
question?
We do.
Yes, unfortunately.
All right.
Second question.
Would you rather...
Walk barefoot in a public bathroom, or walk barefoot through Poison Ivy.
Well, bathroom, I guess.
I'd go
with a bathroom, because you could...
I've gotten... I got Poison Ivy... Could wash it off pretty quickly.
I gotta say, I got Poison Ivy one time, and it was weak.
It was, it was very, I, I entered it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, well, yeah, I mean, you know, if you ever go to a club and worked out, you know, go off into the showers, basically do the exact same
thing.
So, I mean, you
know, so what?
Hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Well,
I never have done that.
Oh, I've done it a few times, you
know, I've been at health clubs all my damn life.
Yeah, well, so it's a primordial soup of germs and bacteria Infection
waiting for you go into the steam room sometimes.
Oh my god.
Oh never Yeah, is that it for would you rather that's it?
I do
have the outro.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I still don't
Have left
All I heard was everyone, that's
it.
It's
like that Charlie Brown thing.
It takes a
talent to have it disguised like that, whatever you're saying.
You know, where do you come up with that
stuff?
It takes a lot of effort to be that bad.
Yeah, I think I
saw somebody in here.
Yeah, somebody's here.
We have a special guest that has
arrived.
Should we
bring him in now or force him to come in?
We can force him
to come in.
Tell you what, he showed up.
Let's give him a minute.
Get the hell in here.
What are you doing out there?
Send him out of here.
Come on in, come on
in.
Grab a microphone
or
something.
Yeah, there's one over there.
Grab one.
Let me plug in the headphones for you.
Well, that would help.
I'd like to see us prepared for this.
OK.
OK.
Yeah, there it is.
Here it is.
We heard it.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's Sam Davison.
What about it?
Oh, my God.
Oh, no.
Don't start crying.
I know you're an emotional basket case, but don't cry.
I thought you were going to say, oh, I'll get him out of here.
I don't want to see his face again.
How you doing, buddy?
Doing good.
For how much sleep I'm running on, I'm doing pretty well.
Yeah.
Well, you never ran on a lot of sleep
anyway, so.
Well, thanks for being here for our 500th episode.
Yeah, it's crazy.
I was just thinking like right before I came in, it's coming up on the two-year anniversary as well.
Yes, October 30th.
Wow, keep track of that stuff.
Amazing.
What a brain, you know.
But here, you know, you had to walk through all the balloons.
All
the decorations.
I'm overstimulated just
walking
into the studio
here.
Well, it's good to have you with us, and thanks for showing up.
See you around.
Do we have what happened on this date
ready?
Do you have anything going on?
Today in history?
Yeah, today in history.
I'll
tell
you what, maybe we'll plan that during the break here
and do that right
before Pam
got here.
We can't do that.
No, we can't.
We got Pam.
We're going
to have to do
it
at the end.
Can you
hang out for a little while, Sam?
I have nothing else
to do, yeah?
You guys actually locked me in here and changed to the desk once again.
Okay,
well
good.
Good deal.
All right, well that sounds fantastic.
We'll take a little time out of idiocracy.
Absolutely.
Yes,
we're just getting
started on a Friday morning here, 19 minutes past the hour.
Big
celebration.
Yes.
500th show.
Yes, and more surprises to come.
Wow.
We'll be back in checking with Pam Yankee from the Midwest Food and Farm Report next on John and Gordy for a Friday morning on WMDX.
Welcome to the age of stupid.
Stupid.
Welcome to the age of stupid.
WMBX, John and Gordy, the age of stupid.
We've got so many stupid stories coming up a little bit later on.
Right here on their
500th show.
That's it.
22 minutes past the hour and
while we wait for Pam Yonkey to dial up here.
We
have Sam in the studio, our special guest, and Sam used to be our former producer.
And he knows all the little problems that we had initially.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if I even should be telling you guys this or if Dom already told you when I was driving in because I knew it was going to be a little bit late trying to tune up the very first bit of the show.
And I think we were off the air.
Maybe it's just my radio.
I don't know.
I'm
shaking
his head.
No, that is so typical.
What?
We're back.
Are
we
on the air?
Okay, good.
Yes.
Good.
So tell everybody what you're up to these days.
Yes.
Well, you see, I'm a professional deadbeat living in my parents' basement.
A bounce back kid.
Yeah.
Well, for any of you who have been listening to the show for four or more months, after I left here as the producer, I went up north for the summer to work as a camp counselor.
That ended because it's not summer anymore and starting school again did do an online school right now and Desperately trying to find an apartment in Madison.
Yeah, got a place to stay.
Please.
Please Let me know really.
Oh, I know anything lined
up.
Well, yeah, no you got stuff lined up But you have to get your roommate
fingers crossed.
Yeah, somebody
else to go with you on this.
Hmm.
That's crazy stuff now isn't
it and then you're going to be
What, an assistant teacher or what?
How does it
play out?
A substitute teacher for Madison School District.
Okay.
Are we getting the special John and Gordy hand signal?
Yes.
I think we got Pam as well, too.
Do we have Pam?
We do have Pam.
All right, well,
Sam,
hold those thoughts.
You got
it.
We'll talk to you a little bit later on.
Let's get Pam Yankee in the conversation here.
Good morning, Pam.
All right.
Pam?
Pam?
Are you there?
Oh, I think she just left StreamYard again.
Hello, Pam.
She's having an issue.
We're having a hard time with these.
As you can see,
we've worked out all the bugs
since you left, Sam.
Well, it was summertime.
There are an awful lot of bugs in this.
I see,
yes.
Yeah, how
was the camp this year?
I mean, do you do this every year?
Is this
something that you've done?
2024, I just came up to volunteer because I was working here at the station.
But yeah, I've been doing it since 2020, so quite a while
now.
It was,
yeah.
I'm wondering, do we still call a lot of the beverages their bug juice at the camp?
Bug
juice.
God, I wish we served bug juice.
I loved bug juice as a kid, but no, no we don't.
I think I called in one time saying that was a slinging slushie all the time.
Kids love to buy slushies like the freezy kind of sweet drinks.
It was a hot summer though.
Yeah,
well, I mean it was I didn't even like get to experience that I was stuck inside this camp store all day long selling selling So
now you're you're coming back to finish off schooling by doing some assistant teaching or substitute teaching or
Sorry, yeah,
you get to go into the public schools as an assistant a substitute teacher in assistant teacher and Teach history a specific class is that what you're looking into?
Eventually, yeah, eventually I'm gonna be like a but general
education
for now.
Yeah, I'm just kind of subbing wherever they need me So if they need me to I guess I could end up in a kindergarten class for a day That would be do some finger painting
Sure.
Well, I think Arnold Schwarzenegger tried it
for
a while Yeah So so you do that for a what a semester or a couple of some are you I mean is
it part
of your credit?
I
get a tuition discount for working in school.
So yeah, that's the big reason why.
But I need to, the way I said I was so desperate to find an apartment, I need to separately go and like observe classes at a specific school for the whole semester.
As you can tell, the semester has already started and I haven't started doing that yet.
Yeah,
getting behind, getting behind.
And what else are you up to these days?
Well, what else are
you up to?
I'm working on something else over here.
You were at summer camp, and I believe it's a Boy Scout camp,
right?
Yes, that's
right.
OK, we never described that.
You were a former Boy Scout.
Then in fact, Gordy was
an Eagle Scout.
You went all the way to Eagle.
I did, yeah.
What did you get to?
I barely made it to second class, whatever.
I mean, just beyond Tenderfoot or whatever they call it back then.
Not surprised, not surprised.
Sam, do you feel up to opening up the history
books?
Does that require a
boy?
Happened on this day in history right on the on the very important document that you just handed me
Yeah, I gotta tell you though that I always thought that the Boy Scouts were too militaristic So that's why
I never wanted it.
I went
to the
YMCA.
I that was my big
Yeah.
Well, we'll give you a little time to prepare for your big segment here.
You know,
we're going
to go back to, you know, what happened on this day in history, which was your deal.
You're saying we're changing things up.
We're actually preparing for the show this time.
Well, over the next few minutes.
As much as we can.
Because I know I don't, I don't want to throw you a curveball because you didn't know we were going to ask you to do this.
And so we don't have any material for
you.
Yeah, I'm not going to lie.
Yesterday, well, yesterday when Dom called me and then two days ago when you called me and first invited me back.
for today.
I was asleep both times.
I could kind of tell.
You woke up all groggy and everything.
That's
good.
All right.
All right.
Well, we'll give you a little time to get ready for that.
And when we come back, we'll have Idiocracy and Sam.
We'll look at this day in history.
We'll open up that dusty history book.
It's been sitting in the studio here for months.
Yes.
So it's got a lot of dust.
We'll see what happens.
It's all happening on the 500th episode of John and Gordy in the morning on WMDX.
WMDX.
It's John and Gordy in the morning, and it's a
beautiful morning indeed.
Yes, it is.
Although there is some fog in some of
the
areas out there.
It'll burn off a little
bit later on.
Of course it will.
55 currently, highs near 80 degrees this afternoon.
We'll see a mix of clouds and some sunshine.
Our 500th episode here and our surprise guest for
this morning.
And our special
guest is Sam, our former producer here.
Yes, Sam Davis.
You know, you mentioned the fog is going to burn off later today.
You know what I did yesterday for the very first time?
What?
I checked my windshield wipers.
I bought some windshield wipers for the first time and it's so foggy this morning.
I'm glad I did.
Did you install them
yourself?
I did.
Is this on the VW bug?
It is,
yeah.
Did you drive
here
today?
Wow.
Right, so it's out there in the parking lot.
That is so
cute.
You ever
seen it there?
I have never seen
it.
Oh yeah, we gotta go out and check it out.
It's ugly.
It's just an incredible car.
It really is.
I mean, you know, these are flat windshields.
There's no curve to them.
What
year is it?
74?
Yes.
Yeah.
Cool.
Now you were talking about the fact that you know you're getting an apartment, but you needed to get another guy to go in on it or else they wouldn't accept your application, so on and so forth.
I
got a story here.
Here are the 20 metro areas with the greatest increase and decrease in apartment construction.
We'll forget about the increase.
We are at the bottom.
Madison was at the bottom of construction of new apartment buildings.
In the nation, in the nation.
Try that hard to believe this summer.
Chicago beats us, I know, with all the buildings going up here.
Yeah, it's hard to believe.
Maybe next year we'll be a little higher up in the rankings.
But yeah, that's why you're having trouble.
I can't believe it because they tore down my old house in order to build a new like 10 story.
But yeah, did I not tell you guys?
Oh, no, you did.
I remember that.
I was driving along Johnson Street probably almost a year ago now.
Yeah, they
had your stuff out in the street and
you were turning the building.
Wow.
That's not an easy thing to get.
Wow.
So, okay.
Well, should we get to your, you know, we'll go back in time.
Oh, do I really have to open this book?
Four months?
No, I mean,
I
got
used to not having dust around the studio.
Okay, open the damn
thing.
Oh, no!
Oh, Sam!
Would you like a throat lozenge?
I
forgot you'd do that.
Oh my god, that scared me.
Yeah.
You
okay?
God, Gordy, why did you make me
do that?
Oh, no.
I threw a lung.
Okay, all right.
You know, I always love this part of it.
Well, at
least, yeah, I'm sure you do.
Well, at least we can find out what happened on this.
Yeah, blindly.
Please.
Name Jesse Owens-Ringabel.
Yes, sure.
Jesse Owens.
Yeah, he was the black Olympic runner.
Yeah.
And what would it be, 1939?
Something like that?
Yeah.
He was born on this day in 1913.
Wow.
He won a bunch of
medals and Hitler was not happy.
Yeah,
turned away.
Yeah.
Questions, fists, whatever.
Yeah.
Uh, let's see.
Well,
he was a DEI higher, so.
Yeah.
Okay.
What else happened on this day?
Uh, we've got, we've got, uh, well, we have some more black history and some space history.
Uh, Mae Jemison became the first black woman in space on this day in 1992.
And then some more space history.
The USSR, they launched Luna 2, which was the first human-made space probe to hit the moon.
And if I could be, it could be wrong about this, but I think their main goal
was literally to just fire it straight at the moon.
They just wanted to see what
happened.
It was like an old silent movie where they shoot the rocket into the eye of the moon.
Hard landing.
Okay.
Anything else?
Yeah, something you guys would be plenty familiar with.
Today in 1966, the Monkeys debuted on TV.
Oh, really?
Turn on
the TV.
Let's see if they're on
right now.
Okay.
Okay.
Here we go.
Oh, it's
on.
Yeah.
This is a great intro.
Crank
it.
Yeah.
We're too busy singing to put
anybody down.
Oh, yeah.
Everybody watched that show.
They did.
You were our aide.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it
was so fun.
It was so
boring.
But
kind
of broke the mold.
I mean, it was not a typical sitcom at all.
It was it was kind of a Takeoff on what the Beatles had done with the hard days night.
Yeah, and they kind of took that and made it into a TV
or the Ruttles or the Ruttles Right, so yeah, but the here's the thing, you know that made me angry about it I really wanted to believe that they played their own instruments.
Oh God and produce their own
I just couldn't accept the fact that it was manufactured.
group.
Hmm.
I mean, it's they sound so good in the intro.
They were all still musicians, weren't they?
They
never played that up.
Oddly, they never really talked about it much.
Yeah, they don't have any talent, but we put them all together.
That that was the explanation at the time.
But, you know, Mike Nesbeth
actually great songwriter.
Yeah, he wrote different drummer.
Yeah, for Linda
Ronstadt.
Yeah, he was really good.
And Peter Tork was a really good musician.
Yeah.
And they were great.
You know,
they're good singers.
Davey Jones.
had some
good drummer
yeah he was okay well
circus circus boy okay yeah
mr. drummer guy over here mr. critic he didn't drum when they played out concerts
usually
he'd know he would he would
play like one or two songs the lead singer he had to get out on stage and sing okay
Anyway,
here I am again defending the monkeys
arguing about the monkeys.
Okay Sam is that it for the
history for the Beatles like the monkeys.
Oh, yeah, they're
get off your high horse
They were pals.
Yeah, okay What are we doing here?
Okay?
Can you close the book?
Is that do we need to close the
I know I'm not touching that thing again All
right
Sam anything else you
want to offer at this time that's about all we got
today
I'm sorry.
Oh God, it's close
now.
Don't cry, okay?
Don't cry.
Oh no,
no.
It's so sad.
Oh
my
God.
What a
great idea.
It's
okay,
I'm better now.
Okay.
Well, let's get to a little bit of idiocracy.
What
do you think?
You guys ready for idiocracy?
I
don't know.
Sam, what do you think?
You're our
guest
producer today.
Gosh, it's bad.
What do you want
to do?
Why am I your guest producer?
I don't work here anymore.
I'm tired.
You guys are still stuck here.
We didn't want anybody to
know that we were stuck here.
It's our 500th episode.
Come on, give us a break.
All right, well, why don't we get to work?
Actually, we've never worked this long together.
That's true.
At one place or just in China?
For so many days in a row.
Because we did have our Tuesday night cable access show.
We had that for
a while.
What in the world is wrong with the management here compared to all of the other radio stations you worked
with?
I
don't know.
Haven't they learned their lesson yet?
Yeah, I'm fairly not.
So, okay.
Yeah, we worked at Triple M for like eight months.
Eight
months.
Yeah.
That was that.
Well, that was a big thank
you.
I
don't know how long we were at MAD.
A couple of, you know,
a year, a year and a half or so.
Yeah,
until they turned it off.
I mean, it was turned off.
It was dark.
Of course, you had left prior to that though.
Yeah.
For better jobs, I guess.
For TV.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was how that worked out for me You had
other hosts
yeah co-hosts
Arnie Arnie
was Arnie was great Arnie
was terrific.
It was a crazy man.
It really was but Yeah, I had a few in there.
All
right.
We
got a message.
I don't understand Catherine says shut up Sam.
I Told you guys during the break.
Don't let me hijack the show.
Oh, I guess Catherine thinks that I'm hijacking the show
Well, I
only
get to our first star here for Idiocracy.
It's not so much Idiocracy.
I guess it does refer to an idiot, the person we have in the White House right now.
This is Pete Buttigieg, Mayor
Pete, as they like to call him, and he was the transportation secretary as well.
Pete's not real happy with the repeal of airline passenger benefits.
You know, when you get there and they cancel your flight or delay it, they should compensate you for it.
That's what the Biden administration decided to do.
Well, that's gone now.
Let's listen to Pete himself.
Okay.
Hey, it's Pete.
I'm changing planes and wanted to say something quickly about what's going on with passenger protections in the Trump administration.
If you know anything about our work at the DOT, what I was Secretary, you probably know that we work hard to make sure that you can beat your money back when airlines let you down.
But under President Trump, the Department of Transportation is starting to dismantle our balance.
We just learned last week that they are eliminating a rule that we lost to keep you compensation.
industry we led.
And they filed paperwork showing that they may get rid of other rules or weaken them.
Like rules that make sure that you can get your money back if the airline charges you a fee for something you don't get.
Or will that just as the airlines at least have to tell you what their fees are before you pay them.
This is part of a pattern on everything from credit card fees to now the way airlines treat passengers.
The Trump administration is always picking corporations over consumers.
If there's any good news in this, it's that there is a public process coming where you can go on the record and tell them exactly what you think of these
changes.
special get-togethers in the legislature, you know, they always get people in, you know, tell them what they think about their legislation, their proposed bills, and it turns out like 99% of the people that show up are against them, but they pass them anyway.
So, you know, if the administration wants to do it, they're gonna do it.
That's the way that is.
Okay, I got another story here, and we talked about socio-democracy, right?
In Sweden,
We brought that up the other day.
Well, here's the story.
According to an individual who wanted to just get this out there about Sweden, their beloved country, they said, we have Social Security, Public College is paid for a nationally regulated, locally administered universal healthcare system.
400...
$400 cap on all your costs for health care for that year, strict gun laws, all that kind of stuff.
That's Sweden, yeah.
This is all funded with higher taxes, but remember it costs so much less when everybody pitches in and pays their taxes and paying it individually and that's why we do this kind of stuff.
Plus you won't lose your hard-earned savings due to one health care.
cost right right one emergency and everything you've saved up over the years for your family to send your kids to college is gone in an instant so uh sweden's got the right idea and it's socio-democracy it isn't uh you know socialism and you know people get hung up
with the labels
communism
yeah yeah that's if sweden can do it why can't we do
that's what i'm
thinking yeah sam your opinion
okay
All right, and I guess I'm just gonna throw this in for the heck of it.
All right, it's Baran T. News.
Our nation's nightmare has only just begun, folks.
Oh, no.
Baran's ex-handle is Baran Trump.
Flag emoji commentary described as son of the 45th and 47th president of the United States of America commentary account No affiliation.
I have
no idea
what that means
He's denying that he's actually a son of Trump.
On his own.
Yeah.
One of the stories, breaking, should Trump sign an executive order to repeal Obama's propaganda bill, which lets government officials and the media spread misinformation without consequences?
Yes or no?
Hmm.
Yeah.
It's, uh, this is a
scary thought that this guy's going to be out there doing more of Trump's work for him.
Bearing Trump.
Yeah.
Okay.
I knew there was something wrong with that guy.
Okay.
But he's just a kid, so I really shouldn't say.
Well,
how old is Baron Trump now?
I
have no idea.
He's in his 20s.
I don't know if we'll look it up.
You think so?
I think he's early 20s, yeah.
Early 20s.
All right.
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from WMDX's newses, Savannah Tomey Olson.
She had
a great story.
She reported on some very shocking plans by mega legislators in the capital just down the block.
I want to break it down a little bit.
The first point is Wisconsin legislators want to end referendums and consolidate school districts and this is cut 70.
Let's go to cut 70.
Okay.
So we need to stop the cycle of never ending referendums.
Now, Democrats might argue that the solution is simply to throw more money at the problem, but it does not solve the issue that there are just less kids being born today than there were 20 years ago.
School advocates and administrators say declining enrollment isn't the problem.
It's the formula itself and a lack of funding from lawmakers.
State school aid has not kept up with inflation for more than a decade.
And that's
a long
time.
That
is a long time not paying for it.
And here's the one thing that should be mentioned too about school consolidation, the districts.
It's kind of bringing an end to local communities.
These schools keep these communities together.
They're social gathering places for those local communities.
And when you consolidate it, it breaks up the school district.
You send them off in a bus someplace, maybe a half hour, an hour of drive.
I mean, it's just ridiculous, right?
I think we should spend some of that surplus money that we always have in the till and just spend it on the schools and come up with a different formula.
We've been trying to do that for the last 20 years and they have refused to do it.
And they always, they just hate spending.
Remember, they always say that.
Well, we don't want to spend money.
Well, spend it on us.
It's our tax dollars.
Damn it.
Okay, I want
to
go down
to the next point here.
Wisconsin Republicans hated the federal Department of Education, didn't they?
Remember, education should be local.
Trump hammer came down on it real hard.
This is cut 72.
Let's listen.
Oh, I'd like it to be closed immediately.
Look, the Department of Education is a big con job and I will shut down the federal Department of Education and we will move everything back to the states.
where it belongs and where they can individualize education and do it with the love for their children.
And sending all education and education work and needs back to the states.
We want them to run the education of our children.
Because they'll do a much better job.
You can't do worse.
We're going to end education coming out of Washington, D.C.
We're going to close it up, all those buildings all over the place, and yet people that in many cases hate our children, we're going to send it all back to the states.
So we're going to do, under President Trump's leadership and direction, is to return that authority to the greatest extent possible to the local level.
He's empowering parents, states, and communities to take back education.
And while White House says, this order is about returning power to families, and I say amen to that.
The left meltdown proves one thing.
They're not in it for the kids.
They're in it for the money.
And Trump's cutting the cord, and they're scrambling like roaches when the lights come on.
Experts say that student loans might get messy.
Rural schools might lose funds down the road, sure, but they're growing pains.
They're growing pains.
But the chaos of freedom beats the order of tyranny every time.
The current system located in Washington, DC, is not working.
And the president is committed to ensuring that states and parents have a greater say in our children's education system.
Wow, gee, that sounds like sound logic, according to Megas anyway.
But wait a minute, hold on a second here.
Cut 71.
Maybe, you know, having Washington in charge of education ain't so bad after all.
Huh?
Okay,
Republicans plans also want Wisconsin to opt-in to a federal school choice program passed as part of President Donald Trump's big beautiful bill earlier this year.
So there you go You know, let's get rid of public education.
We don't want it coming from Washington But we do have this voucher program that we want
to spread
nationwide
and
spend taxpayer dollars on doesn't make any sense And of course, it's ideologically driven here.
I got this comment from one mega Trump dismantled the Department of Education delivering out of devil
a mass Marxist indoctrination, forced child trans ideology, woke Afrocentric revisionism, DEI, CCRT, and anti-white racism, the global communist agenda took a major loss today.
Well, amazing stuff.
Who knew that we were part of that so by the way, we're that all these Republicans and magus come from if we've been indoctrinating people for the last 50 or 60 years Yes, we have been doing a lousy job, or there's no such thing as indoctrination.
It's just something they made up.
They're all the kids that did bad school
Yeah,
that's right.
That's really hurting the real community.
Yeah, hang
on a
second.
I don't know what he's doing here
Get the darn thing here.
Is there not enough confetti in this room?
Just trying to tear up the
papers and make some more.
The one paper that I need is not in here.
Okay.
All right.
I'll tell you what.
We have free ticket Friday going on.
We'll tell you more about that in our seven o'clock hour.
Okay.
Sure.
Yes.
We'll get up to speed on that.
Also, we'll check in with Savannah Tomei Olson.
And we've also got a lot
coming up about the right wing radio hosts calling for
everybody to tone it down just
a little bit.
Again, I am so
tired of this.
I
am
really am.
But they always take advantage of these situations and they make it political
every
time.
Yes, and also in our seven o'clock hour rocker with a maxing preview.
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Wow.
Good morning.
Very cool.
WMDX.
John and Gordy.
Yes, indeed.
We're here and it's our 500th show.
That's right.
And boy, the celebration just continues.
I know.
We're getting all kinds of
phone calls.
Step over the
balloons in the confetti.
Yeah,
it's crazy.
Sam brought
a cake, right?
Yeah, I did.
Thanks for bringing a
cake.
That's amazing.
Okay.
This
amazing banana bread.
Oh, just...
Yeah, thanks for doing that.
Small butter and stuff.
Yeah, that was great.
Can't wait to get to that.
Okay.
Um, we've got Savannah Tomay Olsen coming up here in a moment.
We'll check in with her with some news headlines.
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Tome Olson.
Good morning, Savannah.
How are you?
Good morning, guys.
Happy Friday.
Thank you.
Happy Friday.
What's happening in the news?
Well, one of the big local things that I covered this week has to do with two swimmers at West High School.
One of them is a senior.
Her name is Asha, and she has Down syndrome.
And Asha has been an exhibition swimmer on the West Swim team for the last two years, which means that she has kind of a reduced practice schedule.
And when she swims at meets, she
doesn't
score any points.
But she's a full member of the team.
And she said it has given her such a great sense of community to be on this team with some of her peers.
And then there's another student named Aurelia who is an incoming freshman who was set to be on the West High School swim team as an exhibition swimmer.
She also has disabilities and they were basically told heading into the school year that they would no longer be allowed to be exhibition swimmers and they would have to try out just like every other student and have no accommodations made for their disabilities and
These kids and these families were pretty upset just at the idea that they would lose out on this community that Asha had been in for two years and this was her last chance to participate.
And Aurelia was going to get to spend four years on the team.
So they, a bunch of people really flooded one of the school board meetings this week to kind of urge the school board to reverse course.
Who is responsible for that?
Who came up with this?
This is sounds DEI to
me
to object to this.
Yes.
Yeah
So the coach of the swim team people had nothing but lovely things to say about her and how she has created an Inclusive environment
there
for these last few years It sounds like that decision came from above her although
it's
still not entirely clear That's part of why the parents are so frustrated.
They say
it's not
they haven't gotten real answers as to why they've made this change and deviated course.
But there were not just their families, but even other swimmers on the team, swimmers without disabilities who came and spoke and said, you know, we want them on the team.
All right.
It's amazing.
Okay.
That's really, really disappointing.
And again, I am not bringing it up to be confrontational, but
DEI has been getting rid of all of these special accommodations for so many other students out there.
And this just sounds like one of those instances.
Okay, let's continue.
What else
do you got?
You got a story about the Willy Street parking situation and the express lanes, right?
That's right.
This is the first week of it being a whole lot slower during rush hour because they're now allowing parking again.
So that means there's only one open lane during, I think it's like.
after four o'clock in the afternoon.
So they're going to see whether this makes any difference when it comes to all those buildings that feel like they constantly get crashed into on
very
street.
You know, Mother Fools has been hit three times at this point.
So the traffic engineering division is basically trying this out for six weeks to see if it ends up making Willy Street safer as people go a little
slower.
You know, it's so strange.
I mean, why would it just be Willy Street?
What's going on over there in the east side?
Well, they were looking at the data.
They were like, there are far more crashes into buildings here than there are comparable streets, even like West Washington, East Washington.
They don't really have a good answer.
Yeah.
I've got, I got a clue though.
I mean, you know, four blocks over is East Washington Avenue.
It could go in the same direction, a little faster, a little easier.
But anyway, yeah, you got to keep those.
cars parked there because, you know, taking them out for a little while, everybody gets confused by it because, you know, John Dolan takes two lanes and drives them into one lane on Willy Street.
It's just a big mess.
So just keep the cars parked there in front of the businesses so they don't get run into.
Just leave the cars
here to get run into, I guess.
Well,
you led me perfectly into my next story.
Yeah, better enjoy John Nolan while you can simply because construction starts next week.
That's right.
Next month.
Next month.
Wow, boy.
That goes on for two years.
Yeah.
All right.
All right, Savannah, thank you so much.
You have a good weekend.
We'll talk to you again next week.
Take care.
Very good.
Thanks, Savannah.
All right.
Okay, we got the big story here.
Should we get to that or do you have something else?
No.
Okay, that's time for the big story.
All right,
um Here we are radio hosts or big 500th show, of course Let's go to another radio host a right winger clay Travis.
There's so many of them out there.
I was blocked from Doing any kind of radio show on any of the other AM radio stations out there.
They didn't want a liberal on their
airwaves,
you
know, they silenced me they censored me
They did and well they got away with it and they continued to get away with this kind of
crap is all Vicki McKenna's fault and by the way I didn't want to work anymore True when you threw the headphones against the wall that was the last I know
she felt in danger by me Yeah, yeah that always happens, but anyway, I'm really getting fed up and tired of this outrage on the right Yeah
We are constantly being threatened.
Liberals, Democrats, progressives were always being threatened by the right wing.
Constantly.
They're even coming right out and saying it that they've got to get rid of woke.
Well, woke is another word for liberal.
They want to get rid of it, but wipe it out.
They want to take it out of this country.
That's us.
I feel threatened every damn day they say this stuff.
And now they're outraged because something like this happened, the shooting happened.
And
now they're saying that
we're the ones bringing on all the violence.
Well, I disagree completely with that.
And I think everybody else does too.
We're the ones being threatened.
We're the ones being taken out.
The immigration, the ICE agents taking everybody out of here.
Everybody, Americans and immigrants as well.
This whole thing is just drummed up outrage.
drives me crazy, but here's Clay Travis, now that I've said all that.
He has this blunt response to Barack Obama's claim that he doesn't know what motivated Charlie Kirk's murder.
Let's listen, this is cut 79.
I
am tired of hearing people say, like Barack Obama did, like Hillary Clinton did, oh, we condemn this violence.
Guess what?
You can't call the president of the United States for 10 years Adolf Hitler.
And you can't say that he's a fascist dictator.
And you can't say that anyone who voted for Trump or advocated for him, like you, me, Riley, and Charlie Kirk, are Nazis.
And then when someone tries to kill us, you can't suddenly say, oh, we condemn this violence.
You caused it.
Look at me right now.
You caused this.
When you tell
I just want to pause here because you know when you listen to these individuals talk about being called hitlers and Nazis We're not just making it up You hang out with white Nationalists, right?
You hang out with actual Nazis Marching down the streets you have them on as guests you talk to them you pass along their message to the public on they
American airwaves.
This is what's happening in this country.
We're not just making it up.
So what they want to do when they shout about this like Clay Travis is they want to shut us down.
They want to shut us up.
Let's continue.
OK, people that someone is Hitler.
You are telling crazy people go kill them.
And I am sick of pretending that that is anything other than what they're doing.
That guy in West Palm Beach, what did he say?
He was killing Trump because he believed Trump was Hitler.
This is what they do, all right?
This left-wing violence, it's out of control.
And Charlie Kirk bore the brunt of that left-wing violence.
And guess what?
But for the twist of his head at the last minute, Donald Trump's head would have been blown off on live television.
And that is intentional.
They are lighting fires and then claiming, oh, what do you know?
There's a fire there.
They're doing it on purpose.
MSNBC.
Sean, you watch this.
They were live on the air saying, one of their guys said.
They put out a PR statement.
He said, well, Charlie Kirk was riddled basically with hate.
And when you put hate out into the world, this kind of thing happens.
Oh, tough break.
You get shot and killed, even though you're completely innocent and all you're doing is making arguments for the betterment of the country.
Tough.
All right.
OK.
Enough of that stuff.
But he did bring up Matthew Doubt, who got fired from MSNBC for just saying normal, everyday comment.
I mean, this guy is white bread.
And they had him on commenting about this, and I want to play this.
This is cut 73.
Matthew doubt.
The comment he made that got him fired at MSNBC who takes all of this stuff seriously from the right wing that we should shut up.
Well, this is their response, guilty as charged.
Let's listen.
Talk to me about the environment in which a shooting like this.
happens
yet again I emphasize what you just emphasize we don't know any of the full details of this that we don't know if this was a supporter shooting their gun off in celebration or so we have no idea about this but following up with what was just said he's been one of the most divisive especially divisive younger figures in this who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups and I always go back to hateful thoughts.
lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions.
And I think that's the environment we're in that, that people just, you can't stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place.
And that's the unfortunate environment we're in.
That's right.
Now he got fired for that.
ridiculous isn't it?
I mean that is just a normal everyday comment and MSNBC's president Rebecca Cutler, who by the way is going to also be in charge of MSNOW when they split off from NBC, she said this, we apologize for the statements as he has too.
There is no place for violence in America, political or otherwise.
Does anyone out there really think that he's calling
for action on maybe taking it out on other individuals, violently shooting them.
No, of
course he isn't.
This is, we're just, we're just playing and we're just again collapsing in the face of right wing pressure.
That's it.
Nineteen past the hour, we've got a number of phone calls.
Hang on the line here.
We're going to check in with Brittany Merlot next on Weekend Weather and much more.
Rockers in the studio too with a Maxing preview coming up.
WMDX 92.7, John and Gordy in the morning, our 500th show.
No one ever thought it could happen.
Especially us.
We never had a clue that this could happen.
The plaque on the wall was just a wonderful heartfelt.
I know, it's amazing.
Got a big crowd here in the studio.
You know, out in the lobby
there.
But he wants our autograph.
We're talking about the outrage on the right.
We'll be getting to our phones in just a few moments.
Yes.
And get your input.
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Should we go to the phones?
All right, yeah, let's definitely do that.
Let's go to Charles and Milwaukee.
Charles, what do you got for us?
Good morning.
Hey, good morning, guys.
this fake outrage from the right.
They lie.
Everything they say is lies from the wokeness to schools teaching white kids to hate themselves.
I would love to ask any Republican that says that, CJ, including
What school is he ever walked into and they've talked and they're, and they're telling my kids, you need to hate yourself for the things that that was done to people of color.
This fake outrage of well, Obama and Hillary Clinton.
I've never heard one of them called Donald Trump Hitler.
You know who I get here called Donald Trump Hitler, his vice president.
JD Vance I heard Marco Rubio talk about how horrible Donald Trump is I heard Ted Cruz talked about how horrible Donald Trump is I heard oh I Can't think of his name offhand but all of these the guy from from South Carolina That that that said that if we elect Donald Trump to the Republican Party, that's the end of the Republican Party Donald Trump is always doing hate
Lindsey Graham.
He's always spewing hate.
Democratic Party is always talking about how can we include everyone?
The Republicans continue to go after trans kids, gay people.
I
know and they bring up this DI as though that is some kind of horrible.
terrible thing that we're foisting off on people and now we've lost some swimmers here in our school system simply because
of
that I think anyway that's what it sounds like Charles thanks for that and I really appreciate it yes the right wing has actually said these negative things about Trump before they jumped on board his ship yeah
yeah
let's go to
dick dick is on the line with us this morning morning dick what do you got for us
Well, first of all, congratulations on 500.
Oh, thanks.
A lot more.
Um, what I'm wondering too is how we went from such snowflakes to just such predatory animals.
Yeah, that happened.
Isn't that weird?
Yeah.
Also, something that Kirk said, I'm paraphrasing as best I can.
He, more or less, I wonder if you'd been his cabalier had his own children been victims.
when he makes what just sound like, you know, children being slaughtered in schools is collateral damage that you're going to get so that we can have, you know, guns.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, that is one of the most amazing comments.
Yeah.
Just a few deaths a year, but that's worth it to keep our second amendment.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you know,
that's that.
Somebody else's kids.
That's right.
He didn't expect this.
Yeah.
I appreciate it, Dick.
Thank you.
I actually have a list of
Yeah,
John, I think we want to let our listeners know that there's some breaking news here.
President Trump
has
announced that they think that they have captured the suspected gunman, and so that news is breaking.
Well, I'm glad that reporter Trump has chimed in.
Anchorman
for America.
He's breaking news for all of us now.
This is his job.
He's such a micromanager.
There's a press conference coming up at 8 a.m.
Here are some of the comments from Charlie Kirk, okay?
Gay people should be stoned to death.
Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane.
Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband.
No one should be allowed to retire.
Leftists should not.
be allowed to move to red states.
British colonialism was what made the world decent.
The guy who assaulted the Pelosi should be bailed out.
Religious freedom should be terminated.
Multiple black politicians stole white people's spots.
MLK Jr.
was an awful person.
The great replacement theory is reality.
Hydrocl... whatever vaccine requirements are medical apartheid.
I mean, these are...
A positive message?
Is this a positive message for America?
I don't think so.
Look, we are horrified by what happened to Charlie Kirk.
No one should ever have this kind of fate, regardless of their belief system.
Political violence is never good.
And to actually have former presidents come out and say something about this is amazing.
I mean, Charlie Kirk is just a commentator.
Podcaster so I think I think the left has reacted well to this But I think the right wing is seen a political opening here and they want to go after Everybody on the left everybody and act like it's outrageous and that we are promoting violence and shootings and whatever else Remember the guy who took a shot at Trump was a right winger.
Yeah, okay So the guy at the golf course was a right winger.
Yeah
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We've got Rocker in the studio.
What a way to end the week for politics.
Well, I
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Good morning, Rocker.
Oh, what's happening, guys?
That is so awesome.
We were playing that song last week on Maxing radio.
And now there's a new version I hear.
We have a new single that'll be coming out with I'm Rocker.
So it's awesome.
I'll definitely tell you whether I like those intros or not.
So it was a good thing I stood up.
It's awesome.
I got to thank you guys.
Oh, it was fun.
Creative.
That was fun.
And, uh, rocker, you remember Sam Davison is with us, Sam.
Sam,
I saw the bug on the way in.
I knew Sam would be here.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
We missed that bug out in the parking lot.
We really do.
Have you
had some more work done?
We missed that
more
than you.
Yeah, I did, uh, I did a bunch of work on it while I was stuck at home.
Actually, I didn't have much else to do.
Yeah.
So what did you do at a radio?
I replaced all the wheel bearings because it would shake if you turned in one direction.
Does the horn
work?
It does work.
So warm and fuzzy.
How about you got new windshield wipers the other day,
right?
Yeah, yeah, I'm moving up in the world.
I
finally have enough money to buy windshield wipers.
In old cars like that, in old cars like that, we used to put in record players.
In
a car?
We used to play
45s in the car, yeah.
Oh
my
gosh.
All right, record.
I saw a bunch of styrofoam I thought in the car.
Are you trying to float that down?
Is that going to float now?
Yeah,
I actually have the boat strapped to the top for when I drive into the lake.
You still have the
Styrofoam boat.
I do.
Yeah.
Okay.
Hey, put that mic up a little closer.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, why am I telling you, you know how to do this?
Okay.
I thought I just sounded a little goofy because, uh, because it's running through the
other board.
The other board.
All right.
Rocker.
What do you got for us
for a Max
Inc preview this week?
Max Inc radio.
We're going to unplug from politics Saturday, six to nine PM right here on WMDX 927 FM.
You can find our podcast at the civicmedia.us slash Max Inc radio this week.
Big John Smolec.
He's a drummer from Go Play God.
He's been around for a long time in this scene.
He got a bad case of, I guess, a bad case of diabetes, and he had to have his leg amputated below the knee.
And for a drummer, that's just, you know, seems like a crazy thing.
So we're all, the music scene is coming together to help Big John out.
And we're going to talk to him this weekend on the phone.
We're going to get him on the phone and talk about
the fundraiser for Big John, which iron plow is going to be making our return.
And we'll be talking about that in a minute.
OK.
But we also have a static affliction and Mother Hive and a bad and Zen for that show.
Now, the crazy thing about that show is there's going to be some huge raffles there.
I did not know this.
It's really coming out.
They're going to be raffling.
Are you ready for this?
They're going to be raffling off a Gibson SG Standard 1961 guitar that was honestly donated.
the event.
So there's going to be much more than that though.
That's
where some
money there.
There's going to be a 2024 Green Bay Packers signed football.
There's going to be mallard game passes up for the raffle.
There's even going to be a PRS guitar from Dave's guitar shop, which is amazing.
Ultimate Arts Tattoo Packages and Offender Acoustic.
Lots of really good stuff if you want to come down and join the raffle.
Raise funds for Big John.
I'll tell you what.
So you guitar players out there, a Paul Reed Smith guitar and also Gibson SG.
A 61.
A 61.
Yeah.
That's, man,
that's huge.
We actually have the John and Gordy guitar banjo that we have signed.
Oh, wow.
Are we going to give it away?
We're
going to donate
that,
are we?
Okay.
What will we talk about for the rest?
time I
don't know
all right oh and hey we'll have live from the man city we'll have Melissa Keeler she'll be right here live from the man city in our studio so there's some good things happening around Tom
Jenny Lupin and Mason Meyer Band.
They're just a great love story.
Jenny, she's a singer-songwriter from the Midwest.
She used to be a fitness and gymnastic coach and she quit everything and is now a full-time musician.
She met Mason.
And you know what?
I think they fell in love.
He's the bricklaying owner of Main Street Music in Brooklyn, Wisconsin.
And now he kind of quit everything and kind of became a singer while he still does his other stuff.
But now he's into it.
They have a band and they're going to be playing Saturday, September 13th at the Harmony Bar right now.
Let's check it out.
Jenny Lupin and Mason Meyer Band.
This is back to you.
What can
I do to make you stay?
I guess I'm going to have to kneel and pray.
If we could find a way to change our ways.
No, we both would have tried once again.
So now what do we do?
What do we say?
Silence can be worse than words, but I can't fight with you one more day.
Let's call it truth.
Let's go our same ways.
I can't seem to live without Jesus.
Boy, it
brings
back the old days of Ian and Sylvia and all these other folk groups.
or female singers.
Yeah, the
male singer sounds a little bit like Waylon Jennings.
Yeah, he's got a real vibe.
Yeah, he's a big guy, baritone.
Yeah.
I mean, he was great.
He talks, he talks super low to you.
It's just amazing.
That is a good song.
Love that.
So they're at the Harmony Bar tomorrow night.
They're coming up at the Harmony Bar tomorrow night.
That's on Atwood Avenue over on the east side.
Well, let's get back to the return.
of iron plow.
I'm going to tell you about the show now.
I'll be I'll be making my return to the drums of course after I had cardiac arrest on stage back in December.
This is now coming full circle.
Nine months later, I'm getting back on the stage with my band Iron Plow and we're going to be doing the fundraiser for Big John.
But a fun thing that's going to be happening with that, UW Health, they're doing a little bit of a documentary on my journey back to health, back to playing drums.
And so they're going to be there filming.
for the event, and if you want, please come down, UW Health, they'll be filming it for me, and you can be a part of the studio audience.
It's the fundraiser for Big John this Sunday at the Crucible on the east side of Madison.
Two to 7 p.m.
Iron Plow plays at 5 p.m.
So I brought in another one of our Iron Plow songs.
This is a little bit of a throwback.
This is called Whiskey Day's Iron Plow.
I like the drumming.
Yeah.
Drummer's got something going
on
there.
Well, at least you guys aren't replacing drummers left and right like
Spiral Tap, right?
Yeah, right?
I wouldn't go.
I mean,
this could actually be iron plow.
The end continues.
Yeah, that's
right.
Oh, yeah, we plan on.
We're planning on going until we, you know, we got walkers and canes.
How long has the band been together?
Since the since the pandemic, I think October 20.
2021.
Okay, we started because, you know, everything was just shut down and we're all old friends and we had never jammed in a band together and we thought, why not?
Yeah, got together and now it's been a couple of years now.
So yeah, excellent.
Well, that
show again, Sunday at on the commercial avenue at the
crucible.
Yeah, the crucible from two to seven.
two
to 7 p.m.
daytime show and don't forget about the killer raffle.
Lots of good stuff happening there.
Come down and be a part of the studio audience while they film it.
We'll
have a
good time.
And now Channel 27 is stopping by here in
a little while.
So
you're going to be on TV maybe tonight or tomorrow?
I guess we'll have to see what the TV gods say, but they're going to come and do a little interview with me.
You never know when they get reassigned or different stuff happens.
It's TV
news.
not required to say John Negori or anything like that.
Okay.
During
the interview.
Can
you sign that?
Okay.
All right.
What do you what else you got
here?
We got time for one more.
Yeah, I think the band feel I thought I bring you know these guys are playing September 17th, 8 p.m.
at the high noon saloon.
They're from St.
Louis, Missouri.
And I don't know if you've seen them on Facebook.
They really have a good Facebook.
Campaign going on, but they're dynamic classic rock inspired sound incorporates blues jazz 60s experimental the band field calm I think these guys are awesome.
This song is called find a love the band feel they'll be at the high noon saloon September 17th
Sounds good I've
been seeing them on Facebook for quite some time They've been shown up my feeds and now suddenly here they are coming to the high news Luna thought man People need to know about this band.
They are really good.
It's the
band feel
that's the name of
the band
The
band feel.
The band
feel.
The band feel, yeah.
Go check them out.
September 17th, Sunday, I don't know what day that is.
September 17th.
Whatever day September 17th falls on, that's the day they go see them, right?
That's when they're gonna be
there.
Okay.
Yeah.
Good deal.
All right.
We got a minute here.
Let's see.
You know what?
Let's go to the break here, and then we'll come back with Rocker for a few more songs.
Again, Sam Davison is with us.
We want to remind you, you can go to WMDXradio.com.
We've got Rocker's event on there and on the banner.
And we also have a new event page there you should check out.
And of course, the newsletter comes out every Thursday, I believe.
And you can check that and sign up for our WMDX newsletter.
Tell us what you think on our...
a live poll that we have on there as well.
That's right.
Yeah, the poll question.
And again, we have a new poll question for you every Monday.
So you have one more day to get in on the poll.
It's what's the most challenging part of getting to the Dean County Farmers Market?
You can weigh in on that.
Finding parking seems to be the biggest challenge that's been holding the lead all this week.
That's right.
All right, we'll be back with more of Rocker with the Maxing Preview and wrap up our 500th episode at WMDX.
next.
Get down.
We're back.
Here we
go.
Stand
by.
Come on.
We're the best of Madison.
Sam Davidson get off of the table.
He can't dance on the console here.
I'm
back
man.
I am so back.
Oh, no
Man,
we really energized him.
I think we're gonna have to make room for him here at the table.
You know what James Brown does to me.
I know I
know Now you mentioned during the break a friend of yours is playing a high noon saloon at the band
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
My my old roommates band
cause and control they're playing at the high noon tonight along with blush she be in the love makers and low boy uh that's starting around eight tonight
all
right nice all right stuff of course rocker is here again for the maxing preview got a couple more things i
i'll cut it down to two more okay i think they're both really good too uh rit deeds
Thursday, September 18th, he's at the Harmony Bar with his son, Wilder Deeds.
So, Ritt and Wilder Deeds, they'll be playing, he's a local musician and songwriter, but Ritt is also a writer.
And he will be celebrating the release of his unusual debut novel called Settle Down.
It takes place in 1980s, Virginia.
and right here in Madison on the Near East Side.
So it's an interesting book coming out.
He'll be releasing that book and playing at the release party September 18th, Thursday at the Harmony Bar.
Right now, let's check out a song he had a little while ago.
This came out, Rick Dietz.
This is called East Side.
The
Catfish
River Food, from the Fourth Lake to the Third Lake, like Mendoza Rose, Yohara.
Seems the bird who heads south to south and north to the west well.
It's where the sun goes down.
You belong on the east side of this town.
I could fish all day with my friends off of Bible camp.
Like to walk and walk up and down my road.
Sounds
great.
That's wild.
You know, I love it when they mention Madison in a song.
That is all that.
Everything in that song.
Well,
I just that is just more proof that the east sides where
it's at.
Oh,
Catherine Lake has joined us in the studio.
Well, we've got a great song that mentions a lot of chain restaurants in
other sites.
RVs
McDonald's.
You say it just like that, it sounds cool.
Catherine,
jump on that mic.
Well, I'm here, I'm here, and I just wanted to tell you this has been a really wonderful show, but did you say...
500?
Yeah,
500th
episode.
Yeah.
Why?
I have some bad news.
No, it's
Friday.
They're taking back one of them, and that's today.
It's only 499.
We're gone.
Yeah, you miscounted.
What?
Are you kidding me?
Oh,
no.
Next time talk to management.
What the hell are you doing?
Time to pop all the balloons, I guess.
Who's keeping track
here?
They're
taking away the
cupcakes.
Hey, we got time for one more song here.
And this is perfect.
I'm going to talk about another guy.
He's actually from Australia.
And he's going to be coming here to the High Noon Saloon September 22, 7.30 PM.
Absolutely amazing.
I actually tried to get him here for Atwood Fest, but he was not available.
But he's coming here now, September 22.
OK.
All right, so I gotta set this song up.
So this guy, there is no guitar in this band,
okay?
And he's absolutely amazing with his originals, but I thought I'd bring in a song that's maybe a little familiar to people.
He's gonna do Jimi Hendrix's Voodoo Child, right?
So he's gonna do this and you're gonna hear it on a whammy clavinet.
So this is a keyboard that has a whammy bar.
And
what
you got to go look it up on YouTube.
OK, you can see him play Locky Dolly, which is L A C H Y D O L E Y. He's Australian, whammy clavinet.
You've never seen anything like this.
It's going to be at the Harmony.
You just got to hear it to believe it.
This is Locky Dolly doing voodoo child, no guitar.
OK.
Bye!
That's amazing.
A whammy clavinet that is
not
a guitar.
He's got
the Hendricks thing happening.
I don't even know what that looks like.
You have to go to YouTube to see this thing.
It's like a regular kind of old looking keyboard,
almost like
an organ, right?
But out of the top is this bar that comes out,
right?
So he plays, he's playing
the keys with his right hand and then this whammy
bar with his left hand and
he's got, you know, lots of sound effects.
But I mean, when you see the other songs too, I mean, he's just, you know, Hammond B3 players, expert, master.
I mean, you really got to see this guy to believe it.
That's great.
It's
very
good.
All right, we'll check it out.
Rocky Doley tonight are coming up at the High Noon Saloon, September 22nd
and Maxic weekend.
Yes, six to nine p.m.
Saturday night.
We'll have a John Smollick and we'll have Melissa Keeler playing live here
and everybody check out the big show on Sunday and the Crucible with iron plow and the rest of the band.
That's right.
And
I'll be coming back going to play the drum set that
I played
on
December 26th, so it's
been a lot of
fun.
Very good.
Sam Davison, thanks for joining us.
Oh, you turned your mic off just to... It's on, I swear, I swear.
Thought over here, too.
All right,
Sam, great to see you.
That can happen.
You don't know, but I unplugged your mic.
He's
trying to unplug mine.
Monday's show, Mayor Paul Soglin will join us, former mayor, also Pam Yankee and Amy Horak.
That's it for us.
Have a great day.
Happy 500th, John.
Thank you very much, Gordon.
Couldn't have done it without you.
WMDX.
It's John and Gordy in the morning, and it's a
beautiful morning indeed.
Yes, it is.
Although there is some fog in some of
the
areas out there.
It'll burn off a little
bit later on.
Of course it will.
55 currently, highs near 80 degrees this afternoon.
We'll see a mix of clouds and some sunshine.
Our 500th episode here and our surprise guest for
this morning.
And our special
guest is Sam, our former producer here.
Yes, Sam Davis.
You know, you mentioned the fog is going to burn off later today.
You know what I did yesterday for the very first time?
What?
I checked my windshield wipers.
I bought some windshield wipers for the first time and it's so foggy this morning.
I'm glad I did.
Did you install them
yourself?
I did.
Is this on the VW bug?
It is,
yeah.
Did you drive
here
today?
Wow.
Right, so it's out there in the parking lot.
That is so
cute.
You ever
seen it there?
I have never seen
it.
Oh yeah, we gotta go out and check it out.
It's ugly.
It's just an incredible car.
It really is.
I mean, you know, these are flat windshields.
There's no curve to them.
What
year is it?
74?
Yes.
Yeah.
Cool.
Now you were talking about the fact that you know you're getting an apartment, but you needed to get another guy to go in on it or else they wouldn't accept your application, so on and so forth.
I
got a story here.
Here are the 20 metro areas with the greatest increase and decrease in apartment construction.
We'll forget about the increase.
We are at the bottom.
Madison was at the bottom of construction of new apartment buildings.
In the nation, in the nation.
Try that hard to believe this summer.
Chicago beats us, I know, with all the buildings going up here.
Yeah, it's hard to believe.
Maybe next year we'll be a little higher up in the rankings.
But yeah, that's why you're having trouble.
I can't believe it because they tore down my old house in order to build a new like 10 story.
But yeah, did I not tell you guys?
Oh, no, you did.
I remember that.
I was driving along Johnson Street probably almost a year ago now.
Yeah, they
had your stuff out in the street and
you were turning the building.
Wow.
That's not an easy thing to get.
Wow.
So, okay.
Well, should we get to your, you know, we'll go back in time.
Oh, do I really have to open this book?
Four months?
No, I mean,
I
got
used to not having dust around the studio.
Okay, open the damn
thing.
Oh, no!
Oh, Sam!
Would you like a throat lozenge?
I
forgot you'd do that.
Oh my god, that scared me.
Yeah.
You
okay?
God, Gordy, why did you make me
do that?
Oh, no.
I threw a lung.
Okay, all right.
You know, I always love this part of it.
Well, at
least, yeah, I'm sure you do.
Well, at least we can find out what happened on this.
Yeah, blindly.
Please.
Name Jesse Owens-Ringabel.
Yes, sure.
Jesse Owens.
Yeah, he was the black Olympic runner.
Yeah.
And what would it be, 1939?
Something like that?
Yeah.
He was born on this day in 1913.
Wow.
He won a bunch of
medals and Hitler was not happy.
Yeah,
turned away.
Yeah.
Questions, fists, whatever.
Yeah.
Uh, let's see.
Well,
he was a DEI higher, so.
Yeah.
Okay.
What else happened on this day?
Uh, we've got, we've got, uh, well, we have some more black history and some space history.
Uh, Mae Jemison became the first black woman in space on this day in 1992.
And then some more space history.
The USSR, they launched Luna 2, which was the first human-made space probe to hit the moon.
And if I could be, it could be wrong about this, but I think their main goal
was literally to just fire it straight at the moon.
They just wanted to see what
happened.
It was like an old silent movie where they shoot the rocket into the eye of the moon.
Hard landing.
Okay.
Anything else?
Yeah, something you guys would be plenty familiar with.
Today in 1966, the Monkeys debuted on TV.
Oh, really?
Turn on
the TV.
Let's see if they're on
right now.
Okay.
Okay.
Here we go.
Oh, it's
on.
Yeah.
This is a great intro.
Crank
it.
Yeah.
We're too busy singing to put
anybody down.
Oh, yeah.
Everybody watched that show.
They did.
You were our aide.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it
was so fun.
It was so
boring.
But
kind
of broke the mold.
I mean, it was not a typical sitcom at all.
It was it was kind of a Takeoff on what the Beatles had done with the hard days night.
Yeah, and they kind of took that and made it into a TV
or the Ruttles or the Ruttles Right, so yeah, but the here's the thing, you know that made me angry about it I really wanted to believe that they played their own instruments.
Oh God and produce their own
I just couldn't accept the fact that it was manufactured.
group.
Hmm.
I mean, it's they sound so good in the intro.
They were all still musicians, weren't they?
They
never played that up.
Oddly, they never really talked about it much.
Yeah, they don't have any talent, but we put them all together.
That that was the explanation at the time.
But, you know, Mike Nesbeth
actually great songwriter.
Yeah, he wrote different drummer.
Yeah, for Linda
Ronstadt.
Yeah, he was really good.
And Peter Tork was a really good musician.
Yeah.
And they were great.
You know,
they're good singers.
Davey Jones.
had some
good drummer
yeah he was okay well
circus circus boy okay yeah
mr. drummer guy over here mr. critic he didn't drum when they played out concerts
usually
he'd know he would he would
play like one or two songs the lead singer he had to get out on stage and sing okay
Anyway,
here I am again defending the monkeys
arguing about the monkeys.
Okay Sam is that it for the
history for the Beatles like the monkeys.
Oh, yeah, they're
get off your high horse
They were pals.
Yeah, okay What are we doing here?
Okay?
Can you close the book?
Is that do we need to close the
I know I'm not touching that thing again All
right
Sam anything else you
want to offer at this time that's about all we got
today
I'm sorry.
Oh God, it's close
now.
Don't cry, okay?
Don't cry.
Oh no,
no.
It's so sad.
Oh
my
God.
What a
great idea.
It's
okay,
I'm better now.
Okay.
Well, let's get to a little bit of idiocracy.
What
do you think?
You guys ready for idiocracy?
I
don't know.
Sam, what do you think?
You're our
guest
producer today.
Gosh, it's bad.
What do you want
to do?
Why am I your guest producer?
I don't work here anymore.
I'm tired.
You guys are still stuck here.
We didn't want anybody to
know that we were stuck here.
It's our 500th episode.
Come on, give us a break.
All right, well, why don't we get to work?
Actually, we've never worked this long together.
That's true.
At one place or just in China?
For so many days in a row.
Because we did have our Tuesday night cable access show.
We had that for
a while.
What in the world is wrong with the management here compared to all of the other radio stations you worked
with?
I
don't know.
Haven't they learned their lesson yet?
Yeah, I'm fairly not.
So, okay.
Yeah, we worked at Triple M for like eight months.
Eight
months.
Yeah.
That was that.
Well, that was a big thank
you.
I
don't know how long we were at MAD.
A couple of, you know,
a year, a year and a half or so.
Yeah,
until they turned it off.
I mean, it was turned off.
It was dark.
Of course, you had left prior to that though.
Yeah.
For better jobs, I guess.
For TV.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was how that worked out for me You had
other hosts
yeah co-hosts
Arnie Arnie
was Arnie was great Arnie
was terrific.
It was a crazy man.
It really was but Yeah, I had a few in there.
All
right.
We
got a message.
I don't understand Catherine says shut up Sam.
I Told you guys during the break.
Don't let me hijack the show.
Oh, I guess Catherine thinks that I'm hijacking the show
Well, I
only
get to our first star here for Idiocracy.
It's not so much Idiocracy.
I guess it does refer to an idiot, the person we have in the White House right now.
This is Pete Buttigieg, Mayor
Pete, as they like to call him, and he was the transportation secretary as well.
Pete's not real happy with the repeal of airline passenger benefits.
You know, when you get there and they cancel your flight or delay it, they should compensate you for it.
That's what the Biden administration decided to do.
Well, that's gone now.
Let's listen to Pete himself.
Okay.
Hey, it's Pete.
I'm changing planes and wanted to say something quickly about what's going on with passenger protections in the Trump administration.
If you know anything about our work at the DOT, what I was Secretary, you probably know that we work hard to make sure that you can beat your money back when airlines let you down.
But under President Trump, the Department of Transportation is starting to dismantle our balance.
We just learned last week that they are eliminating a rule that we lost to keep you compensation.
industry we led.
And they filed paperwork showing that they may get rid of other rules or weaken them.
Like rules that make sure that you can get your money back if the airline charges you a fee for something you don't get.
Or will that just as the airlines at least have to tell you what their fees are before you pay them.
This is part of a pattern on everything from credit card fees to now the way airlines treat passengers.
The Trump administration is always picking corporations over consumers.
If there's any good news in this, it's that there is a public process coming where you can go on the record and tell them exactly what you think of these
changes.
special get-togethers in the legislature, you know, they always get people in, you know, tell them what they think about their legislation, their proposed bills, and it turns out like 99% of the people that show up are against them, but they pass them anyway.
So, you know, if the administration wants to do it, they're gonna do it.
That's the way that is.
Okay, I got another story here, and we talked about socio-democracy, right?
In Sweden,
We brought that up the other day.
Well, here's the story.
According to an individual who wanted to just get this out there about Sweden, their beloved country, they said, we have Social Security, Public College is paid for a nationally regulated, locally administered universal healthcare system.
400...
$400 cap on all your costs for health care for that year, strict gun laws, all that kind of stuff.
That's Sweden, yeah.
This is all funded with higher taxes, but remember it costs so much less when everybody pitches in and pays their taxes and paying it individually and that's why we do this kind of stuff.
Plus you won't lose your hard-earned savings due to one health care.
cost right right one emergency and everything you've saved up over the years for your family to send your kids to college is gone in an instant so uh sweden's got the right idea and it's socio-democracy it isn't uh you know socialism and you know people get hung up
with the labels
communism
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thinking yeah sam your opinion
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He's in his 20s.
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Early 20s.
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We have cloudy skies, maybe a scattered shower or a sprinkle during the early going.
Mid 50s to start things out.
We'll get into the low 70s later.
Marta Hansen is joining us now.
She has the piano gal shop.
In Sun Prairie, she's a singer and a songwriter, and welcome to the show, Marta.
Hi, thank you so much for having me.
Good to have you
with you.
Glad to be here.
Glad to have you with us.
So you have a song, and I think, why don't we just play a bit of this first?
It's called Bang Bang.
Yes.
And we'll explain a little bit how you came to write this song and why.
Yep.
Okay, so let's go ahead and play that, Dom.
Bang, bang
It's just a bit of the song.
That's infectious.
It really is.
It
really is a good tune.
Marta, how did you come to write this?
Well, I...
Like I said, I'm a singer-songwriter and I write what I know and I write about a lot of social issues.
And I've been a volunteer for a national organization, Mom's Demand Action for many years.
I'm a state lead volunteer, which is a gun violence prevention organization.
We work a lot of behind the scenes, unglamorous, thankless work, talking to legislators, working on changing the laws and building awareness and community partnerships.
and all of the things.
And I have kids, I have two teenagers and I wanted to combine my advocacy with my creativity and my art and write a song about gun violence from the perspective of a parent of that fear that I truly have every single day taking my kids to school.
when it starts off as a regular day and in a blink of an eye, it happens all the time.
That parent who dropped their kids off and they get that phone call, they get that text and they're running to the school, wondering if their child is okay.
Now, I was under the impression you had written this.
in light of the recent shooting at Abundant Life, but you actually wrote this in 2023.
I
did.
Yeah, I wrote it in response to a different shooting and it's gained a resurgence since then.
And I realized, you know, I wanted to, with, you know, it happening so close to home,
I wanted to create a video, create a visual with it to maybe inspire more people to get involved, to take action, to volunteer, to donate, to feel, you know...
what that must feel like for a parent to go through and for a child to go through.
So the video came about and that's premiering soon.
Yeah, it's premiering this weekend.
Saturday.
Yeah, the video premiere is the Saturday at beer rock on Sherman Avenue.
And I'll be premiering the music video.
And they'll be info table with mom's demand action, be smart for gun safety.
for kids and focused interruption, which is a local Madison non-profit that is a Madison violence prevention organization.
And then I'll have also live music from Twyla Bergeron, Steve Baker and Bear in the Forest, and then myself as well.
So pretty exciting.
And then it'll be available.
online for the whole world after the premiere event.
You know, moms have made some great suggestions to the legislature and how to try to help stop a lot of this from happening.
Simply, you know, red flag laws.
There are so many good suggestions and yet they have rejected everything
and it's
good to have somebody out on the front line trying to change What's happening out there?
You know they'll go in and invade a city simply because an immigrant killed a citizen in this country But they won't do anything about mass shootings in her schools
And I
just watched a video on X where they showed what was going how they train how they
do this drill that they do, have the kids
go through these drills.
Which are traumatic in and of themselves.
Just watching
it, seriously, just watching it was traumatic for me.
It is.
And my kids, it's become like a normal part of their adolescence, which is just unacceptable.
And there are so many common sense things that we're pushing for every single day that should be done.
Sadly, we need more voices to stand up.
The more we do, we can change public opinion and we can, you know, get people, uh, our legislators to actually do something about it.
We just have a minute left here.
So let's recap Saturday.
What time?
Saturday from six to eight PM at beer rock.
Okay.
And if people want to find out more about mom's demand action, it's just momsdemandaction.org.
Yes.
Momsdemandaction.org.
And my song is, um, available on Spotify, Apple music, all streaming platforms.
And then it'll be on YouTube, the video on children's film Academy of Madison.
Excellent.
Marta Hansen, thanks for joining
us.
Thank you for having me.
Stop out at a piano gal shop in Sun Prairie sometimes.
It's a great place you have there.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
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Time once again for... Yes?
Amicus, a law review.
Yes, we have Jim Santel standing by here.
It is 735.
highs today in the mid-70s, right now 56 degrees.
Before we get to Jim, let's... Mark has been waiting patiently on the phones here.
Mark, go ahead with your comment and we need to keep it a little short here.
We have Jim waiting for us, but go ahead, please.
Not a problem, brother.
Charlie Kirk actually didn't mind school shootings at all and thought that was just the price we have to pay for it.
Considering the Second Amendment is how we secure liberties, I mean that our liberties are
established by governments to secure these rights, you know, governments are instituted among men.
The preamble to the Constitution includes both the general welfare and domestic tranquility in it.
And these guys have, for a long time, Charlie Kirk and his conservative minions and full thinkers, they're protesting the things that they're protesting in the Confederacy, the doctrines of natural liberty, human equality, and the social contract.
they do not believe there's a social contract out there and the shooting of Charlie Kirk was unacceptable but for these people to say well it's declaring war against us i mean for god's sake they got what alex jones talking about this the guy who denied sandy hook happened for for the love of you know that we did have to declare war on conservatives over the shooting of the people in in minneapolis or and the other you know that um... the uh...
Giffords was um, um in Arizona we got shot that um, that uh, we didn't declare a war then against conservatives because that was a conservative shot her I mean that Gabby Giffords a symmetric warfare that they're practicing against us is Is it and we can't you know if you use hate using word war But we it's got to be a word of words.
It can't be a word of war of bullets.
Yeah.
Yeah
All
right.
Thanks,
guys.
Thank you, Mark.
Thank you, Mark.
I got to push him.
Gabby Giffords.
Yeah.
That that was another horrible.
Yeah.
Example.
I don't want to list examples.
We just got to get rid of these damn weapons.
And let's talk to Jim Santel this morning and find out what your input is, what your thoughts are on all of this.
Yeah,
Jim.
What do you think about this?
Good morning, gentlemen, to your listeners.
Another profoundly sobering day in the life of America and the history of our nation.
Frankly what the solutions to this are I offer a couple of things I happen to be there serving as a president of the board of directors or a group called wave it is an a Nonpartisan non political group that advocates for rational reasonable balance and legal and constitutional conditions on the possession and use of firearms We know going back to 2008 the first time in our nation's history that in a case called Heller
Antonin Scalia said for the first time in our history that there is a constitutional right to possess weapons individually in the home for self-defense purposes.
We never interpreted the Second Amendment that way before until 2008.
It was reaffirmed just a few years ago in another case called Bruin.
Again, another Supreme Court justice writing for the majority.
Said that you can also take those weapons out into the street and you've got a constitutional right That's the law in America and yes We embrace the rule of law even on a day when we have had this these horrific events plural yesterday We know what the statistics are we can all cite them and we condemn with absolute clarity Yes, and without condition everything that happened yesterday as to Charlie clerk at Utah Valley University and the students at Evergreen High School the many others it is all
unacceptable, it is all tragic.
And here's the point of all that.
In 418 days from today, you know this well, 418 days from today, we go to the polls and we elect the 120th Congress of the United States of America.
That includes 435 members of the House of Representatives that includes the third of the United States Senate.
If you go to the polls and you elect people who are committed to making a difference and changing what happened in America, you can do it.
Why?
Because we know what works.
We know that if you get rid of assault weapons in America, that happened back in the 90s.
We know that the incidents of these kinds of things happen.
We know that if you do the gun show loophole and create universal background checks, we know that that works.
We know that safe gun storage works.
We know that extreme risk protection orders.
work.
I can go on.
Wave and others talk about these things all the time.
How do we know that they work?
Because in those states, those states in the country that have enacted these kinds of things, they have got a dramatically, dramatically statistically lower incidence of yes, school shootings and mass shootings and individual shootings of the sort that we are once again talking about America.
America, you know what works.
go to the polls in 418 days from today and elect people who in their first hours and the 120th Congress on January 2nd of 2027 will introduce legislation and pass it and change America so that we can begin to address these issues.
We know what happens.
We know it works to respond to it.
And we've got it within our purview to make a change here, so the Charlie Kirk's and the Evergreen High School and all of the others that we can talk about.
309 mass shootings in America just since January 1 of this year alone, mass shootings for more people shot.
We can change that.
And when the people look back on the history of this time and they're going to ask whether it's children, grandchildren,
What did you do?
The answer is we knew what we could do.
It's effectively like solving a serious medical issue.
We've got the solution to it.
The question of history will be, why didn't you act?
Why didn't you stop to do this?
And the answer is, Americans have it within their purview to do just that.
We've always had it within our purview.
418 days from now, you go to the polls and not single issue voters, but people who, again, are rational, reasonable people who will say, yes, indeed, we can enact these things.
We can make a safer nation where the Charlie Kirk's of the future are not assassinated, where the children at Evergreen High School are not shot.
We can do this.
And let's do it.
let's make it happen.
So you head up a group called Wave and you're looking at the best ways to control firearms in some way shape or form.
You know, the right has complained about this kind of control, even though they say guns are a right that we have, constitutional right that we have, but we also have a constitutional right to vote.
And they made us jump through hoops.
one hoop after the next just to cast a ballot.
That's okay.
But we can't put a hoop up, one hoop up for owning a gun, which drives me crazy.
Now here's a point.
RFK Jr.
came up with another gun violence excuse, SSRIs.
And that's a class of medications used to treat mental health conditions like depression and anxiety.
While magas blame mental health for shootings,
And the need for treatment, RFK Junior is now saying that the treatment and those drugs are turning people into shooters.
So you can't even use the drugs nowadays, and you can't treat people with mental conditions because the drugs are creating shooters too.
There's no way out of this
box.
Exactly.
And to those points, that is the solutions that are out there.
Again, here's your civics lesson, which I am always inclined to do with the two of you and all of your listeners.
I talked about Heller back in 2008 through and in 2015.
In both of those cases, you know who told us?
that your right to carry firearms is conditional.
It can be restricted and can be limited by the government.
I know what you're talking about.
Antonin Scalia.
That's right.
Yes.
And he says that, you know what, there's nothing about our decisions.
And yes, Clarence Thomas and others recite the same thing in Bruin three years ago.
There is nothing about the right under the Second Amendment.
And it is there.
Yes, we can debate whether or not it really is there.
But that is part of our constitutional law today.
You have a personal right.
to own weapons.
You do not have an unconditional right.
When people say, Jim, I've got gun rights, yes you do.
Absolutely.
And there's also a prerogative, and I would offer an obligation of government to restrict those based upon all sorts of things, including the places and times of manufacturer, sale, distribution, use, possession, all those kinds of things.
And Antoinette Scalia and the United States Supreme Court have said that your right to own and possess and use weapons in America is conditioned.
It is restricted by all of those things.
There is nothing about
the list I gave before that is unconstitutional, you can do all of those things tomorrow within the ambit of the Constitutional Law.
Do it.
It's just that simple.
Yeah, absolutely.
Boy, that's well said.
Yeah.
Let's go to the phones.
We've got CJ on the line.
CJ, what do you got for us today?
Thanks for taking my calls.
Sure.
Bad day in America.
Yes.
You know and I've heard some of your callers.
They sure don't know Charlie Kirk as the man preached about God and country faith and the love of his fellow human beings
and
he called people to the microphone front of the line like you guys do sometimes people that disagree with you and I met him twice
proudly.
I heard someone say that he loves school she rings or whatever.
He spoke the truth about the black community.
Only 20% of kids born in the black community have a father or two parents in the home today compared to probably 25 30 years ago, which it used to be 80%.
He cared about the black community.
He wanted kids to have both parents in the home because he saw the destruction of the family structure.
And he preached.
Um, he loved to have people dispute, uh, or question his beliefs, but they don't, they don't believe you shouldn't believe that this man preached hate.
because if you hear him, he's trying to, whether you agree with him or disagree with him, he treated people with respect.
Well, he said that he didn't really trust black pilots.
I think there's a problem there.
What do you think of his quote where he said, I
think,
we just played it.
We just played that.
What he said was, if they're getting extra points,
He
doesn't know that though.
He didn't see Jay.
He doesn't know that So it was soon because they're black.
Do they have that training?
Well, okay
Well,
let's set that aside for a second.
What about his comment?
I think it's worth to worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our God-given rights.
How about that comment?
He became a victim himself at this point
Well, I tell you what, he didn't do what he believes.
He
didn't believe in violence.
He didn't believe that it's okay.
But it's okay for people to lose their lives just as long as we keep the Second
Amendment.
I think we should keep the Second Amendment legal, legal gun owners and law abiding citizens.
But some gun deaths every single year is okay.
Having some gun deaths per year is okay.
Just so we have that right.
Well, I tell you what, it's not gonna change.
Legal gun ownership should be allowed in this country.
It should change.
People that are evil, it's the person that pulled the trigger guys.
It's not the gun.
No, it is the gun, actually.
And it was a gun, by the way, a long distance away from a building top.
So if you had a knife, it wouldn't have been a danger.
All right.
Oh, no, CJ, we got to go.
We've got our guests here.
I want to mention this too, Jim.
You're part of a group that is looking at ways to make gun safety better in this country.
Your group is WAVE.
Has there ever been talk about maybe getting an insurance policy in place to require insurance?
And Jim will give you a chance
to answer that question.
When we come back, just
a
quick break here.
We're coming right back with Jim Santel on John and Gordy, WMDX.
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have Jim Conway join us.
He is a professor of pediatrics and an expert on infectious diseases and vaccinations.
Jim, good morning to you.
Welcome back.
Good to have you with us.
Great to be back.
Thanks for having me.
All right.
There's so much in the
news.
It
really
is
about vaccines and that's one of the things that's confusing a lot of people.
What we've seen in Florida with the Surgeon General's decree that they want to remove mandates for vaccines for everybody in the state
But including, of course, children in schools, it's scaring a lot of people in Florida.
We saw a little screenshot of DeSantis addressing the issue.
A lot of concerned parents are wondering what's going on and how all of this is going to unwind.
And of course, this still needs approval from the legislature in Florida.
What do you think of something like this?
I don't believe there's any state in the country that doesn't mandate some.
farm a vaccine for children at least.
Yeah, it's held up in court decisions now for for centuries really that you know when we put kids into these places where we ask them to work and play together and share unfortunately one of the things that they're going to share is microbes and so there is sort of a social obligation to keep kids safe in those settings and
One of the ways that we do that is to exclude them when they have illnesses.
But as part of that, you can also then require them to have vaccines that'll protect them against these diseases, but also protect the other kids by having these kids not able to bring those diseases into the schools.
And so that's held up now for.
literally centuries and it is one of those things that parents have come to expect and teachers have come to expect as well that they're going to be protected if we're going to essentially have these sort of mass congregation
settings.
Well, you know, the confusion over the vaccines, whether they work or not, we're finding out, of course, you know, from RFK Junior, who says they don't work.
They're really not effective.
And that, of course, creates a lot of questions for the public.
Now, they don't know whether the CDC is actually telling them the truth.
It creates a tremendous amount of uncertainty in the public.
And this is really doing horrible.
I guess, public health concerns
for everybody in the country.
Consequences.
We have a cut here for this.
Let me see here.
I think
I have
something here.
Oh, here, let's go to CNN stats on vaccines.
Do you have that at all?
Let's look for that.
Yeah, 25.
Yes.
There we go.
Let's play that.
These agencies the FDA USDA and CDC all of them are controlled by giant for-profit corporations 75% of the FDA's funding doesn't come from taxpayer it comes from pharma and Pharma executives and consultants and lobbyists cycle in and out of these agencies with President Trump's backing I'm gonna change that we're gonna staff these agencies with honest scientists
And doctors were free from industry funding.
All right.
Let's stop it right there Jim.
What do you think of something like that that kind of accusation?
Yeah, it's just a misplaced and misunderstanding of really how things work I mean certainly you know when pharmaceutical companies have to
put their packets together to submit for review and approval of a drug, you know, they have to pay for that process.
But that doesn't mean that that's being used to then impact the decisions that are being made.
You know, I think one of the things that we all have to recognize is that science to happen has to be funded.
And, you know, that's a combination.
It can't all fall on the
backs of the taxpayers in the government.
And so we know that the pharmaceutical industry funds a lot of the research that goes on because they obviously have a vested interest in creating products.
But that's also how much of the best stuff works.
And many scientists, many universities, many organizations work with those organizations to create the best drugs that we can get.
And so it's really sort of a twisting of the reality to say that then that's
exactly what's happening when the decisions get made on what gets approved.
So, you know, while it may sound good in a sound clip, you know, really it's undermining the whole basis of how we get things done in this country and how science marches forward.
I've always heard that a lot of this research is actually funded by the public.
The NIH colleges, of course, have done a lot of research and then it goes from the NIH into the FDA and they
Dole out who gets these drugs to, you know, continue the research and refine the product.
Is that how it works?
It's complicated because it really depends on what the product is and, you know, how the process works.
I mean, certainly a lot of the basic science around the idea for vaccines comes out of just basic science.
And you're right, you know, for years it's been funded by CDC and NIH and the others.
and certainly universities fund a lot of that as well.
But it's really sort of a give and take process.
It depends on where you are in discovering and understanding the disease, discovering then what are the drivers of the disease and how do you protect against that disease.
And the pharmaceutical industry, we wouldn't have any of these drugs if they weren't involved and weren't interested in helping us actually fix these things because somebody's got to have the manufacturing capacity.
But by definition in our country,
got to have some output in a capitalist society.
The U.S.
pharmaceutical industry really in many ways has driven globally all of the scientific developments that we've seen and that's certainly going to be hopefully going forward the way we see things still unfolding.
Yeah, it's very tenuous at this point.
Jim, that's all the time we have at this point.
We appreciate you being with us.
Of
course.
It's Jim Conway, Professor of Pediatrics.
We appreciate it.
We
have so much more to talk about.
We'll get you back on the program.
No worries.
You know where to find me.
Okay, very good.
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