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Debating Democracy: the future of education, reproductive rights, and Trump’s convictions leads to an emotional discussion with listeners

Hosts of The BustED Pencils, Dr. Tim Slekar and Dr. Johnny Lupinacci, invite and share political realities with personal stories.

Teri Barr

Jun 10, 2024, 11:21 AM CST

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It’s a lively and at times emotional discussion, as the hosts of The BustED Pencils Show, Dr. Tim Slekar and Dr. Johnny Lupinacci, invite your thoughts on issues facing the current state of democracy.



The conversation is highlighted by personal reflections and debate, but there’s also talk focused on the intersection of social justice, legal accountability, and political strategy. And you, the listeners, have something you want others to hear. 

One example? A caller expresses frustration over continuing struggles for women’s rights and LGBTQ+ recognition. “The fact that formally acknowledging something like marriage has been illegal for most of my life is absolutely ridiculous,” she says. 

The caller brings up more concerns with The BustED Pencils hosts by talking about her daughter’s future. She is especially worried about the threats to reproductive rights many believed had been secured long ago. 

“I never thought in my lifetime we’d be faced with this,” the caller says. She goes on to share the continuing surprise she’s receiving while talking with doctors and nurses across the political spectrum regarding the rollback of progress.

The discussion continues with a debate surrounding former President Donald Trump’s legal troubles and any implications for the upcoming election. Dr. Slekar says he doubts the effect of any charges against Trump, and wonders if it may bolster his support rather than diminish it. 

“I don’t disagree with the conviction and being held accountable – but man, I just don’t know,” Slekar says. 

He asks listeners if there’s a different strategy to shift the focus of the election back to policy ideas rather than legal battles.

“Healthy arguments have to be part of a democracy,” Slekar and Lupinacci agree, as they share what they value about open, respectful discourse while navigating the nation’s challenges.


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