Green Bay Pushes The Envelope On Transparency (Hour 1)

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Look, big show today.

Coming up in hour two, by the way, it's shark

week this week we haven't had time to talk about that today is what's worse snakes are sharks so we'll talk about that also before the end of this hour gonna have our very own Mike Clemens sports reporter here Packers training camp getting underway this week just down the road a couple of miles Clemens will be reporting live from there just before the shareholders meeting and boy howdy did he show up in style if you saw our social media posts our very own Pat Crite low gave him a ride into town on his boat

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And Representative Ahmaud Rivera-Wagner is going to be here right beside me very soon, talking about an important new proposal at the State Capitol.

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two o'clock and sliding in like Michael Che on SNL.

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There he is.

Look at that, ladies and gentlemen.

It's Amad Rivera-Wagner, State Representative for the Green Bay Area, Representative.

Once again, thanks for being on the show.

Thank you, and you're here during training

week, so you have the right outfits on.

I try.

It's Fridays at which we wear a pack or garb, so you fit right in.

Thank you.

You did a better job than I did.

I

sure about that, but I appreciate it.

Got to meet you the first time last year on the campaign trail.

You worked in the mayor's office.

You're somebody who loves Green Bay.

Absolutely.

that about you your advocate for for your part of the state uh first of all just kind of since you were on the program since then number one how are things in your district that we're getting into politics

well

As you know, Green Bay, Wisconsin is querying the US News and World Report, the number one place to live in the country.

So it is an absolute joy to be here.

We just recently hosted a very big event, the NFL Draft, which had a huge statewide economic impact.

We are proud going into our season.

The mayor, we're getting to our summer.

So you should enjoy Bay Beach.

Come hang out on our city deck where folks got rides by Pat right into

the

city.

Right now, one of the best times to be in Green Bay is in the summer, and we have just come off a year of just doing incredible dynamic things, highlighting how special Green Bay really is.

So you're here at the most perfect time, and it's an exciting time to be a state rep for this great city.

Well, it's really, really beautiful.

I haven't been my stepmom and grew up in Green Bay for part of her life, and been to Bay Beach a lot of times.

I haven't been there in a while, but as I came over the bridge to go to Green Bay probably yesterday, there it was.

And I'm like, man, what a great asset for this area of this town.

And folks forget this, our Music Park and our Wildlife Sanctuary are government run.

So one

of the things that's unique about this blue collar community is that we take care of each other and we do it in really thoughtful, innovative ways.

We own part of the stadium still, the field itself.

We own our Bay Beach Music Park.

We own a Wildlife Sanctuary.

There's a way in which government does good here and we take care of everybody.

And it's still 25 cents a ticket.

It's like crazy.

Amazing, great.

And so there's something good about what happens when you come to Green Bay that

We find smart ways to take care of everyone.

And government is actually not a bad word in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

It actually works when you listen to the people that elect you.

So that's

actually quite, that's

very helpful.

And I

don't live too far from here, so I'm about three blocks away.

It's awesome.

It's a walkable, wonderful downtown.

It is.

I live in Aster.

There's like dog parks down here.

We really are just a great place to live, to raise a family if that's what you're doing, to retire.

We just have all these really exciting things.

And we have a fantastic Mayor, Mayor Eric Enric, who has just been a champion for working people in the city.

I want to turn, I want to circle back that, don't let me forget.

But first,

all of your myths.

If I didn't ask you the big political news broke yesterday while we're in Green Bay here, Governor Tony Eris Democrat announced he would not seek a third term.

He's going to go out on what Bill McCosch and called on this show yesterday undefeated, right?

I mean, absolutely.

That's right.

Five statewide races undefeated as a Democrat.

A, what was your reaction and B, looking forward?

What are your thoughts?

Well, I was a bit sad.

I mean, to be honest, the governor has been so good to Green Bay.

We talked about some of these major efforts in the city, the NFL draft.

He helped make sure we secure funding for that.

You probably saw them on your way in.

We have these giant co-piles downtown.

He helped us secure funding to actually move those co-piles for the first time in 125 years.

That kind of responsive, thoughtful government that actually invests in its people, that really make tangible.

material improvements is something that you just don't get every day.

And to have someone in the capital who really gets that, and not just the investments, he shows up here.

The governor was just here recently from working with little kids in our schools to talking about the co-piles and the draft, to working with our firefighters, having an elected official who shows up, who cares, and also invest in its people.

Green Bay couldn't be prouder.

And you know, in Tahoe Town, we know one thing or two about champions.

Oh, yeah.

We know

that.

And so he was a champion for this community in a way that, you know, I would be remiss if I say that sometimes Democrats forget that there's all kinds of us outside of Mass in

Milwaukee,

right?

And so to be, it was refreshing to feel like we were just as equal and just as fair in his eyes and that we got our fair share of engagement and support.

He was a phone call away.

And so truth be told, I'm actually quite sad.

I think there's a big shoes.

to Phil, but I also think that people deserve to enjoy their ice cream and their cheese.

And this kind of work is exhausting.

And so I'm wishing him and Kathy a wonderful vacation when his term is up, because isn't there nothing more exciting than doing a really good job of being a true public servant, and then going off into the farm fields

to enjoy ice cream and cheese.

And so to

me, it's really great.

You know, I think they're big shoes to fill.

I will say, I think we have a dynamic bench of amazing folks with resumes that we know of, people that might come out of the woodwork.

And so I think it's an exciting time to be a Democrat.

I will say, you know, I was interviewed yesterday about that there are certain parties that are gleeful because they thought that the only person that could be hard to beat would be Tony Evers.

I just wouldn't be that happy if I was the party that cut homeless veterans shelters here.

in Green Bay, who couldn't expand Medicaid, who doesn't have a plan for housing, and at the national level is cunning stuff for veterans, the elderly and children.

So I do think it's a moment where I think Democrats have a good chance because we have a deep bench, but I want whoever's running next for governor to be people oriented and outcome driven.

Talk to the state representative about Rod Rivera-Wagger, see it's getting too hot and more water, sorry about that representative.

Here in our studios in Green Bay, he represents, what's your district number?

I'm sorry.

90.

90, 90, how can I forget that?

Way out here.

Great Packer number as well.

It is a good number.

90 in the assembly district out here.

A minute left, let's set it up, we'll come back and talk about it.

Give us just the 30,000 foot level of this legislation you're proposing to limit spending by the state legislature on lawsuits.

So when the governor got elected along with the AG,

session in concert with Scott Walker passed a series of laws that basically gave the power to majority powers in the state senate and the state assembly that they could

higher lawyers that they wanted on the taxpayer dime without any votes and without a complete blank check.

And so what we've seen is over the last about 10 years, $27 million of partisan election lawyers and lawsuits that taxpayers have paid for to go after these causes, none of which they have even won.

And so my bill would change that.

So, you know, this is common sense.

I don't think a Democrat or Republican should have this ability, but we're going to dive right in.

But it really is.

shocking that we're even allowed to do this.

It's not good for democracy.

It's not good for anyone.

But at the other day, taxpayers are going to have to carry the bill for partisan attacks.

If people want their own lawyers, they should get them, but taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook.

Look at this, a politician who could hit a timeline like that.

That's fantastic.

No, I mean, I think it's a great bill.

We're gonna come back and discuss it more, because I think you're 100% right if these people in the legislature, both sides, by the way, want to go after people lawsuits for purely, in my opinion, partisan reasons, let them spend their own money, but quit using taxpayer money.

You're gonna talk more about this on the other side with State Rep Amad Rivera-Wagner of the 90th Assembly District, and also to talk a little bit about why Green Bay

is setting the trend on taxpayer transparency when it comes to our schools.

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So stay tuned for that.

But right now, always a pleasure to be joined by representative Ahmad Rivera Wagner of the 90th assembly district here in our studios.

Representative Rivera Wagner, glad to have you along.

Want to get right back into this bill.

We set it up a little bit before we stepped away.

But essentially what this bill does, you correct me if I'm wrong in layman's terms saying, hey, legislators of either party, if you want to basically file lawsuits for political gain or to score political points, that's on you and your dime.

You can either raise money yourself for your organization, but as taxpayers, we're not going to have that.

taxpayers paying these kind of frivolous lawsuits?

Absolutely.

Just to drill down a bit more.

Yeah, please.

What it does is right now, when Governor Evers was elected, the Internet Lambda session, which we talked about earlier, they changed a bunch of these laws, giving the authority to the majority leader in the House and the assembly in the Senate.

And they can unilaterally write a check and say, we want you to sue.

an individual entity individual in fact the reason why it's so prominent for me is in green bay over the last 48 months they we were the target of two of these lawsuits both of which they lost but they spent collectively five million dollars and that was just

of state taxpayer money that wasn't on the defense that the city had to take on, which was also taxpayer funded.

So upwards of $10 million were spent for them.

And the biggest case was the Michael Gabelman case that accused us of one thing of having little people in our machines, of having two internets, even though our machines are connected to the internet.

But I'm about to try.

Let me make sure we get that point out there.

Yeah.

The machines in Green Bay.

for counting votes are not connected to the internet.

I just want to make sure people understand that because there's there's a lot of information.

Go ahead.

Right.

But we spent five million dollars not only investigating that.

They then tried to arrest the mayor of Green Bay and arrest the mayor of Madison again for allegedly stealing the election from Joe Biden or for Joe Biden against then President Trump and now President Trump.

And so taxpayers funded this farce

Now it is widely not only debunked.

Michael Gibbon lost his law-sized license on this court case in an investigation because it was so unprecedented that it was unethical because it did not meet any single legal standard.

But at the end of the day, so he loses his law license, but the people of Wisconsin are on the hook.

for all of the costs related to that investigation.

Meanwhile, Assembly Speaker Robin Voss becomes the Peter of all this saying, I never knew him.

I never knew Gableman.

Who is that?

One of

the few things I mean, President Voss agreed with, that this was an embarrassment to the state of Wisconsin.

But we were still put on the financial hook to pay for that.

is unfortunate and so my bill would change that law at very least any legal representation because there are times in which state legislature needs to have legal representation would have to go before the full body anything like a special counsel would have to go before get a majority in both bodies and this is a would be like any other bill any other budget that you'd have to get a majority vote in a public facing way

where the documents are public to be able to actually get a lawsuit, a lawyer to pursue lawsuits on behalf of the state legislature.

That is what normal democracy looks like.

It is quite unique in the country that we just have one or two people getting to the side that, you know, we don't like you.

So we're going to sue you.

The second lawsuit was after we got death threats from the gay woman lawsuit, we had increased security at city hall.

So during a mayoral election, a random state senator sued the city for

for adding improvements in enhanced security at City Hall.

And you know who paid the bill for that?

Taxpayers.

Taxpayers.

They lost that lawsuit as well.

$1.8 million to try to influence a local election.

And so to me, I just, I don't think anyone should have this power.

I think this is not about Republicans and Democrats.

It's about common sense and it's about democracy.

If you're going to make a case for why the legislature needs to fund unlimited a blank check for lawsuits, you should have to make that case and get the majority of people the legislature to vote for it.

And so this bill is common sense and simple.

I love every part of it, long overdue.

It's about transparency, no matter who you voted for at the top of the ticket, red hat, blue hat, everybody should be on board with this.

Only about a minute and a half or maybe two minutes left here.

not enough time but I learned this yesterday and you had a large part in this because of this again transparency give us the two-minute version of this it's so important.

So one of the things that happens at the local level is your tax bill tells you where it gets spent and one of the largest sections of your tax bill is the school funding.

Given the realities of the budget we're going to have to go to referendum.

What people don't know is that whatever money you get allocated from property taxes to schools

A certain percentage right off the top goes to voucher schools.

Private schools.

Private schools, privately funded schools that have a different set of accountability, have different rules, do not have the same access and or accountability of a traditional public school.

Most people don't know that when we go to referendum.

that they get the money right off the top.

So what we figured out is that you can put the exact amount, the total amount of tax dollars that are going to private voucher schools on your property taxes and we put it on our local ballot.

The irony was this is about transparency, not even whether you were pro or

con

voucher schools.

You should know that this large amount of money before even gets the first public school kid is going to private voucher schools.

It was a fascinating fight.

where we actually saw statewide actors come down to Green Bay, tell us how terrible we were for trying to hold up our school accountable, but it passed with the mayor casting the tie breaking vote.

And it's going to go on the first tax bill this year.

And we're very excited because we think that taxpayers deserve to know and transparency is important.

And they just know how much money.

And just in Green Bay alone, $12 million comes right off the top before our public schools.

We're having a $30 million potential referendum.

12 million off that is going to go just to private vouchers.

Congrats on this because this is a real legislation that affects real people's lives.

You're getting it done.

I appreciate that.

And we're going to talk more about this because I think every candidate for state office should answer the question, are you for transparency where school money goes on your tax bill?

Great work.

I appreciate your mod.

Rivera Wagner, representative of the 90th district.

Come on back soon.

We appreciate you.

All right, thank you so very much.

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37 minutes now, past the hour of two o'clock and joining us via StreamYard, State Representative Robin Vining.

Representative Vining, thank you so much for being with us.

I believe this is the first time you're on our show.

Pleasure to meet you at least virtually.

As we do with everyone on this program, tell us a little bit about yourself, where you grew up, and what led you to the state legislature.

Thanks so much, Todd.

I am so happy to be here.

I'm happy to meet you.

Each one.

I'm an Air Force brat, I've grown up all over the country.

And my husband and I moved here to Wisconsin when our kids were really little and

just

immediately this was home.

And this is where we wanted to stay.

And my path to politics really started in 2011 when Scott Walker was elected with the assault, really the attacks on public education, on educators, on workers, and marching around the Capitol with our tiny little kids.

And then watching our kids go through their entire K-12 experience under those funding cuts.

And that really led me to run for office in 2018.

And that's my start.

So here we are.

And so you've been here since 2018, and I've been a legislator.

And for people that don't know, it kind of summarized where your current assembly district is at geographically in the state.

Sure.

So this is my third district in four legislative cycles because the maps have changed so much.

And right now I am honored to represent the people of Wavatoza, Brookfield and Elm Grove.

So just outside the city of Milwaukee in the Milwaukee metro area and about half my districts in Waukesha County and half my districts in Milwaukee County.

Do you represent the Brookfield Zoo?

Because I love the zoo.

No.

Or is that just outside?

All right, well, I thought I'd try.

All right, well, we hear a lot about you.

The news doing great things in legislature.

I understand, Representative Vining, that you're making an announcement today in terms of your political future.

Sure.

So yes, last week we announced that I'm running for the state Senate seat.

We're very excited about this.

We believe this the Wisconsin State Senate to be the most flippable chamber in the country.

And this is the most flippable seat.

So after 15 years of fighting for the things that we believe in, we finally have a chance to win.

And we're really excited about that.

And who is the incumbent right now in this district?

Well, we don't know if he's running again, he hasn't said, but currently in the seat is my colleague, Representative Rob Hutton.

I'm sorry, Senator Rob Hutton.

Right, Senator Rob Hutton in the current seat and he has announced whether he's going to run or not.

I think this is very interesting because you bring up this great point that

Due to fairer maps in in the kind of the agreement between the Supreme Court decided the Legislature decided to basically adapt Governor Evers maps in the state Legislature and we've seen this I'm from the other side of the state originally in Southwest Wisconsin and incumbent State Senator Howard Markline who has not I guess officially known to whether he's gonna run for election or not, but his district got

greatly more competitive because he lost the northern part of his district, which was really, really deep red.

And it kind of spread it out more south of the Wisconsin River.

And he has more people, I would argue, that are from, you know, blue parts of the state.

And it's more even.

And I think that's going to create a fairer race in that state Senate seat.

Tell us about your state Senate seat or the seat you're running for, Representative Vining.

Is it kind of the same thing?

Was the map configured to make it more competitive?

Well, it's certainly a competitive seat.

We see this as kind of a 51-49 race where we're favored by about two points.

So really tough, really tight race.

And I am really excited because one of the things that I have experienced over the years with those different maps is getting to know the people across this entire Senate district because my assembly districts, I flipped the 14th assembly district in 2018.

And then in 2024, I was drawn into the 13th assembly district with a Republican incumbent.

flipped the 13th assembly district.

So I have been able to over the last six and a half years represent the people of Guadalajara, Burkfield, Milwaukee, Elm Grove, West Alice.

And now the district also includes Piwaki and Walkshot and then a town of Burkfield.

So I have represented a large portion of the Senate district in my time in the assembly.

And yeah, we think it's competitive and I think it's great.

So we're speaking with State Representative Robin Vining, who announced last week she is going to seek a seat in the Wisconsin State Senate.

I think most political pundits that look at this think that that's probably, although you never know, probably the most viable route for Democrats to pick up at least one of the houses in the state legislature in the 2026 election.

As you look at issues, Representative Vining, and start campaigning now for state Senate,

What are you hearing at the doors and the short answer that you always ask people in this situation?

Why are you running for state Senate?

Sure, so the issues that I'm hearing from people have been consistent over the years and.

It is fully funding the public schools.

It's affordable health care.

It's making sure that everybody has access to mental health care.

It's ending gun violence.

It's the housing affordability crisis.

It's combating climate change.

And it is the cost of child care.

And so we are hearing that.

Part of the great luxury of just having represented West Alice two years ago, I heard it in West Alice.

I know intimately the struggles with childcare and school funding there.

And I hear it across the district now as well.

So Wabatoza, Brookfield, Elm Grove, yeah.

So I apologize this is on me.

I've been up here running We were did the Wisconsin Public Education Network conference yesterday So I haven't had as much time as I normally would prepare that's on me, but I'm unfamiliar Did you vote for against the the state budget that passed and govern eversigned into law?

Sure.

I voted against the state budget I voted against all four state budgets that I have voted on in my time in the legislature

Is there a particular reason on this one that you said no?

Well, so I think

we just negotiated that budget on a Republican playing field.

And we, like that is like why run for office, like right now, why run in this really difficult seat?

Because the path to the majority runs right through our Senate district.

And the way that we get a state budget that's not.

negotiate on a Republican playing field is by winning the majority.

That's how we fully fund the public schools.

We fund child care as infrastructure.

We pass legislation that's going to end gun violence.

We make sure that health care is affordable.

We address the climate crisis.

We address the housing affordability.

And to my take on the state budget, it just wasn't good enough on those issues.

We funded child care in the first year, but not in the second.

I won't dive into the minutiae of that.

But

I

also, I believe the public schools are at the heart of our communities.

They should be at the heart of our state budget.

I want to see significant investment there.

I wrote the bill that included a 90% special ed reimbursement rate.

And I want to see that in the next state budget.

If you look at the state budget, I know some Democrats and I'm not saying you can speak for yourself whether this concludes you or not.

So there are some Democrats that were disappointed in Governor Evers for not fighting more, drawing a red line in the sand for public education.

Like he did more so for childcare for UW System.

Do you think that Governor Evers could have, should have gotten more squeeze of the juice, as they say, on public education, this budget?

Or why don't you think there was more money in this budget for public education?

I wasn't in the room.

The assembly wasn't even invited into negotiations.

And so my perspective really is we were on a Republican playing field.

The second we started on a Republican playing field, we lost.

And so we cannot negotiate to where we need to get when we're still on a Republican playing field.

So I mean, that's my take.

Do you just think it needs to more at least one of the houses of the legislature needs to be controlled by Democrats in order to get more of these things passed?

Is that a fair statement?

At tide, I think we need both houses of the legislature to get these things fast.

And I think we need to hold the governorship.

That's how we can really, truly deliver.

The will of the people is the law of the land.

That's what we say on Wisconsin.

It's on the governor's conference room ceiling.

And we have got to get a legislature and an executive branch at the same time that represent the will of the people in order to make it the law of the land.

And that includes the state budget.

I was, as I said here at the Wisconsin Public Education Network Summit yesterday, one of the things I learned that I'm really impressed about, we just had Representative Amad Ravara Wagner on, he was one of the lead people that did this, I got it through at least, that the City Council in Green Bay worked with the school board up here.

and they got this transparency put on people's property tax bills.

So the next property tax bill is going to specifically say where the money goes for public schools and how much that goes to voucher schools.

I think that's just good transparency on tax dollars.

Are you in favor of that sort of transparency on tax bills statewide?

I should better be.

I authored the bill as soon as I was elected

in 2019.

So you're the co-author with Representative Rivera-Wagner.

Well, when I was like, when I first started in the legislature in 2019, that was one of the first bills that I co-authored.

Yeah.

I'd like

to see

that transparency as well.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

About a couple of minutes left here.

What have I not asked you that you think the people, not across the state necessarily, but in Southeast Wisconsin, in this state, Tennessee that you're ready for?

What do you what do you choose?

Do you really think that they need to know that I have not asked about so far?

Sure.

So I authored a big package of bills called mental health care is health care.

I think that we need to talk about mental health care as health care.

I believe this to be a multi-partisan issue or a non-partisan issue.

I think everybody cares about mental health right now, and it's affecting people in all corners of the state.

And it's an issue that we should be talking about when we're out campaigning.

But it's an issue that we should be talking about all the time.

So mental health is a really big issue that I hope Democrats spend more time talking about.

And I hope that we can

by some support across the aisle on?

I mean, I think I couldn't agree more.

We need more help on mental health.

Is there something, and we only got about, I guess, a minute left here or so, but is there one specific thing in mental health that you would like to see addressed?

Yes, I mean, I would like to see a much larger investment in K-12 schools.

We did a good job in the UW system in the state budget.

The allocation, I think, was really positive, and I want to credit the governor for that.

But we need to see a much larger investment in K-12 mental health access.

And

I

think that's our job for the next year as Democrats.

We

have a 15-year history.

come back from the Scott Walker era and now we have about 15 months to tell people what Democrats are going to do when we get the majority and how we can make life better for Wisconsin families.

State Representative Robin Vining, thank you so much for joining us and we'll see you soon out in the campaign trail.

Have a wonderful day.

Thanks so much.

All right, thank you so much.

Come on back and I'll talk a little football.

Mike Clemens live from Lambeau Field out for this on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Welcome back to the title ball show on the Civic Media Network.

We are live in Green Bay home of those Green Bay Packers that are stationed WGBW here in downtown Green Bay and nobody better to talk about those Packers that are very own sports reporter Mike Clemens who is live standing by at Lambeau Field about to go into a shareholders meeting but kind enough to take a few minutes with us.

Mike, how you doing?

OK, I'm sitting on the visitors bench at the 50 yard line.

it looks like about maybe eight or nine thousand fans in the stands behind me and then at the 50 yard line is a stage with a shade over it with about a dozen chairs because that's where the board of directors guys will be the executive committee and there's where mark murphy will deliver his final shareholders meeting with the finances you know it's open records on how the team did in the past year

And at the end, he'll officially kind of hand it off to Ed Paul.

He's the new president and CEO of the Packers after 17 years.

It's really remarkable.

Packers put out, you probably saw some great video on social yesterday of Mark Murphy going around, signing stuff for kids and talking to fans.

You got to give him credit.

He has really done a great job after taking over the reins of Bob Harlan of keeping this franchise together and moving it to the next level.

You know, he takes over the job.

and he goes into the summer of 2008 in the Farve saga.

And he goes

down

there and offers Brett $20 million to just retire and let us move Aaron Rodgers into the starting role at quarterback.

And you can sort of be our ambassador.

And Farve turns on him and goes on Letterman and tells

the media

about the offer and says, you know, I want to play.

That's all I just want to play.

And then when they had that whole meltdown.

So that's how that, you know, his run started.

He went around and he saw what the Cubs did with Wrigleyville around that property

and he

saw what the Patriots did with a Patriots village and he hired this guy named Ed Policy who was sort of his right-hand man who'd grown up around the 49ers and then later the Cleveland Browns, his father, Carmen Policy, a president and together they put together Titletown and you know they understand that Lambeau Field is this is this mecca and the real estate around it is this hallowed grounds so they turn that into

real estate for offices, apartments, condos, attractions, they lease it out to, they don't own the restaurants.

They find the people that are restaurant experts, they lease them to then, and these are all revenue streams.

So now you get to a thing here where, now is he bringing in those kinds of outside revenue streams?

But when he started 17 years ago, his shared revenue from the NFL, because all the teams split up the NFL with a salary gap, he got $138 million.

And yesterday he told us,

This year, they got $438 million.

I mean, it's quadrupled in his 17 years as the president of a team.

Is Murphy available to do any financial counseling for me, Mike Lemons?

That's pretty good.

Yeah, yeah.

Pretty good.

Hey, we're talking to Mike Lemons, our great sports reporter at Live at Lambeau Field right now via phone.

A big news on the Zach Tom of offensive linemen.

Tell us a little bit about that.

Well, he got a contract, you know, next four years, he's locked down.

The big number on that was $32.2 million, which makes him the highest-paid guaranteed payment off at the Lyman ever.

It's a signature bonus he got.

That's a pretty big deal.

But it also means, from a football perspective, Zach Towns is going to be a tackle.

I ain't going to be moving him to center anytime soon.

I want

him to anchor the right tackle.

So we've been watching, though, Elton Jenkins.

who they're moving from left guard to center.

Now he's got some sort of a back situation.

He was out there again today watching practice.

Looks like he's coming along, but we're waiting to see what his contract is going to be because when they spent 77 million on Aaron Banks for the 49ers to take over left guard, his old spot, move him to center, his agent called the packages and said, uh, I beg your pardon.

I mean, you're going to be paying my guy if you're

going to move

him to center.

So we're waiting for that to get.

ironed out here, probably in the next couple of days.

Interesting.

Can you tell us quickly, do you know anything more about this guy from Australia, New Zealand who came in a kicker and got some fluke injury, a football in the eye during warm ups?

And he might be done.

That's just crazy.

Yeah.

And frankly, I never even got a chance to talk to him, but some kind of a freak accident where he had an eye injury.

I can notice that Brandon McManus today kicked one from 54 yards.

I mean, it went right down the middle.

And I turned to Pete Doherty from the Prescott said, I said, whatever happened to Anders Carlson.

The guy that they drafted a couple of years ago.

And they said, OK,

enough

of this project.

Let's just get someone who can kick the football.

So that was a very smart.

So they go into this season, Todd, with basically, there's no more excuses.

You can't blame Joe Berry.

You can't blame Anders Carlson.

I can't blame inexperience.

The core of this team is in their third year, Matt LaPers in his seventh.

There's an urgency to get to the Super Bowl here.

Well, I heard you on Matt Naranair with Jane and Greg yesterday, the day before, whatever it was.

I thought this was very interesting to me if you could repeat it quickly.

And policy, no guarantees here this year for anybody.

That's right.

I mean, when we asked them about a month ago, civic media, we got into this little circle kind of conference and we asked the new

CEO and president who takes over tonight.

Hey, you know, Matt LaFleur, Brian Goode, contract extension for them.

He says, I don't like to have guys not be signed if they're one year, but, you know, they've got two years left before we visit that next year.

Basically, he put LaFleur and Goodey on a, let's see what you can do this year.

And then we'll talk about extensions.

So, you know, it's a show me, it's a show me year.

Yeah.

I think in a lot of ways the Packers always appreciate reporting Mike one minute left here Mike Clemens Now we were we're downtown here Mike and there's this big yacht that pulls up And I said well quite low gave Clemens a ride to Green Bay any truth to that Mike?

Did you get a ride in the boat?

Okay

Any other quick big news out of a Packers training camp before I let you go

Yeah, Matthew Golden looks great.

I mean yesterday in practice a couple of times, Jordan Love throws a little slant pass over the middle.

He turns and he's looking at a corner, a nickel and a safety, including Evan Williams.

Wow.

He jukes some one little move and he goes up the middle between the ashes and he's gone.

I mean he just explodes.

Wow.

And I talked to Evan Williams because yeah, he's going to be

a problem for the

defense.

Fantastic.

Yeah, Mike Clemens our Hall of Fame reporter.

We appreciate my friend.

Have a great time with the shareholders meeting.

Thanks for making time for us, Mike.

Stay tuned.

Hour number two is next on the Civic Media Running

Network.

On location, it's the Todd Alba Show.

And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd Alba.

A cross Wisconsin on the Civic Media radio network.

and streaming worldwide on the Civic Media app.

Good afternoon, everybody.

Taddle ball along Mr. Aaron Zommerns on the board.

We are here at the studios of WGBW in downtown Green Bay, Wisconsin.

Zommerns is back home in downtown Madison on State Street at the World Headquarters of Civic Media here in Green Bay.

Fairly clear skies, maybe a little overcast high clouds, maybe a little smoke in there would have you warm.

Warm conditions goes on.

I think I lost a couple of pounds yesterday up here at the Public Education Summit, Wisconsin Public Education Network Summit.

I'll get it right yet.

But is it still sultry and steamy down in Madison?

It sure is, also fairly overcast and very humid, very sticky.

So

you better drink some water.

You want to stay inside in air condition.

If only our Eric back home there, you know, that's one of the great things at least down in Madison It's like an icebox in there, which is great on days like today here Little toasty, but we're happy to be here, but we're you understand.

We're happy to be here.

Also happy.

Have some of our great listeners.

This is listening to via WGBW on the app Martia

from Madison listening on the app saying I'm in Milwaukee right now traveling to my son's basketball tournament in Chicago.

Well, Martia, thank you for taking us along on your drive.

Good luck to your son.

I know some folks.

that have kids in these traveling basketball tournaments they go all over and it's it's a lot of work but it's a lot of fun so safe travels and hope your air conditioning is working down there uh also and this is now this is this is feedback i can use because len texted in and it's a little salty

on the uh... hang on because i had a screenshot of this so i so i didn't miss it and this is fair because i want to check with zomers to find out whether this is really the case or not he says uh... len in madison on w uh... mdx says what's worse

radio announcer that never announces the current time, or one that always announces the time a minute late.

Now, it's not where it's going.

On my clocks right now, I have several clocks in front of me.

It is exactly, let me get this right here, 3308.

47 right there.

We're about to go to 309.

Is that the correct time?

That is the correct time.

However, given that you normally just say the minute, if you said it was 308 right now, by the time it gets through all the delays and everything to make sure we don't get swear words on the air, it would be 310 or 309.

So that's the problem right there.

I think it's because of the delay.

So I

think

you say it's the time delay.

So I that's that but that's good information because moving forward I'll say if you're listening via time delay But that that's news I could use so I appreciate that.

Thank you very much, Len That's that's useful information.

Thank you Zommer's for the explanation because I wonder what's going on here my clocks off or what?

Yeah, I didn't really think about either

right

I mean, a lot of people that know me will say my clock's been off for quite some time.

But that's that's another story.

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Bringing us the news of the wild and wacky.

How about that, Summers?

That'll be a great time.

And a reminder.

I guess just a bulletin, if you will, about the show coming up this coming Tuesday.

Hope you set that time aside and join us.

Really, really excited about Tuesday's show next week.

We are going to be live in Southwest Wisconsin at Nine Springs Farm.

Six Springs.

Why do I keep saying nine?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I'm sorry.

Six Springs Farm.

Get your springs right Todd.

We're gonna be at six Springs farm and you say well Todd what's special about that?

Well, here's the deal Joe Thomas a lot of people know Joe Thomas most people know Joe Thomas Hall of Fame college football career with Wisconsin Badger football team and then went on to have a Hall of Fame career with the Cleveland Browns in the NFL had the kind of Iron Man record of the NFL for most consecutive snaps taken in the NFL

also happens to be just a great guy from everything I've known and read about him.

Well, we are going to be giving us a special permission to go on to his farm in Southwest Wisconsin, Six Springs Farm, where he is raising Wagyu beef.

His new passion is beef is called Hall of Fame beef and we're going to have the whole two hours on his farm.

There's going to be cattle live cattle involved.

So now his armor is we've got a live chicken named Sue at the northern Wisconsin.

Stay fair next Tuesday live cattle on the farm.

Our friend Brady Ewing also a former badger and also a former NFL player will join us for most of the show as our co-host for the day.

So join Brady Ewing and me as we sit down and catch up with Joe Thomas at

nine, six pranks farm next Tuesday from two until four.

I'm really looking forward to this summer.

It should be a great time.

This is going to be very cool.

I'm excited.

If I only remember the correct name of his farm.

Hopefully when you're there, you do.

Yeah, that would be very helpful.

Okay, it is 13 minutes past the hour of three o'clock, and that's at least live.

It might be a minute later once it gets to you via tape delay, but it's 13 past the hour of three o'clock.

Time once again for what's worse.

Let's go.

Time once again for once worse nothing to give away no prize money involved But is your chance have your voice heard across all these civic media radio stations except those who have cut away for the Brewers Brewers taking on the Marlins this afternoon Game of the first pitch probably already underway there in several of our Brewers network station.

So here we are for the rest of us though It we haven't had ties been so busy summers this week with Governor Evers

Sadie wasn't going to run for a third term.

Now we have, we've gotten to the news this morning, Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez, who's been on this program several times.

And I understand now, because we have a direct link to Lieutenant Governor via our very own Luke Mathers, who has gotten her on this program several times.

And we've always enjoyed having her on.

And now we're trying to get her on to talk about her race for, uh, for, uh, for the governor.

for her gubernatorial race, and apparently we reached out, and the response we got back was, new phone, who this?

That's

not what I heard, but okay.

I don't know, I don't know, but she said, the Lieutenant's been going on other programs.

That's fantastic, but we love to have her come back on our show and talk about running for Lieutenant Governor.

And then our friend State Senator Kelder Royce, she's been on this program a bunch of times, and we're trying to get her on the show as well, because we love to have her on, because I think that she's going to get in, and I think that both these individuals, Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez and State Senator Kelder Royce, would be great candidates.

And by the way,

We'll take all comers.

We'll take Republican, Democratic, anybody who's running for governor, Josh Shulman.

Republican was on this program when we were up at the Northern Wisconsin State Fair.

We want to talk to everybody because this is going to be a big, big, wide open race, really important race.

And by the way, as long as I brought it up, Summers, I owe an apology to states that are Keller Royce because yesterday on this program, we had on Bill McCoshen.

Republican strategist Bill McCosh and along with Dan Schaefer of the Reconpopulation Area and I was talking to McCosh and and asked him, hey, are you thinking of running for governor?

Because our very own Trig Wilson of the Lincoln Project who comes on with this every Wednesday, he said last year the two people, one Republican, one Democrat, I would walk back to Wisconsin to do doors for was Bill McCosh on on the Republican side and Ben Wichler on on the Democratic side.

Now.

You know this because you were here on Wednesday when we had a big conclave for for Civic Media and Trigby filled in.

Trigby has been so impressed with State Senator Keldor Royce that he apparently also now has said this about Keldor Royce.

Yes, he did.

If she gets in that he'd also walk back to Wisconsin and do doors for Keldor Royce.

I didn't want

to interrupt you, but I probably showed up with that.

Well, no, it's good.

It's good because I want to make sure that I keep myself straight.

which I have a hard time doing by the way.

But anyway, so now Trigby is on record saying if Ben Wickler gets in on the Democratic side, he'll do doors for him.

If Keldor Royce runs the Democratic side, he'll do doors for her.

And if Bill McCoshin gets into the Republican side, he'll do doors for him.

Now, Zomers, what have we learned about this exercise and about this bit?

I think we've learned that Trigby Olson is a political whore.

I think so.

No, no, no, no.

Here's the deal.

Here's the deal.

Trig V loves people who love Wisconsin.

Yes, I think that's what I'm saying

statement.

Yes What he what Trig V is wants is he wants a governor who's going to go around and be a cheerleader for Wisconsin It is going to do the best for Wisconsin and I think he sees that in the caution He sees it in Keldor Royce.

He sees it in in Sarah Rodriguez So I think he's just very excited like we all are thinking.

Hey, we have this

dearth of great candidates, great potential candidates, and we'll see what happens.

So we invite everybody.

And by the way, Mokash and he didn't say no, he wasn't going to run, but he didn't say yes either.

So we'll see Sarah Rodriguez in out of the gate this morning, first one in the pond and and and Keldor Royce.

We haven't heard.

But if I was going to bet money on something, I bet she's in.

But we'll see.

And now Josh Call goofing around here today.

Apparently he had some statement that was basically no statement.

Pretty much.

Pretty much.

So, all right.

By the way, it's Shark Week, ladies and gentlemen.

Back to what's worse.

I just got done being, I got done being coached today, did not go off on tangents.

And here I am going off on tangents.

So, did take, as George Costanzo once said.

It's Shark Week.

So, the category today, what's worse?

Snakes.

or sharks snakes or sharks 855-752-4842 855-752-4842 weigh in in shark week what's worse snakes or sharks 855-752-4842 855-752-4842 you can also text us on the aforementioned civic media app

This is pretty good, Zombers, for Shark Week, don't you think?

Yeah, and you know, we've been doing a series, they've been spread out over time, but we've been doing a series of what's worse based on, you know, various creepy crawlies.

You know, we've had snakes, we've had spiders, but now, snakes and sharks.

We're gonna have to evaluate this bracket, see where everything ends up.

And the graphic for this today, for snakes, is snakes on a plane.

I once saw snakes on a plane, on a plane.

All right, welcome back.

Discuss what's worse, snakes on a plane or Jaws, the movie.

Snakes or sharks, come on back.

We're live from Green Bay on the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm not sure.

Don't go in the water.

Welcome back to the time.

I'll show on the civic media radio network real live from our studios at Green Bay WGBW.

Of course, the iconic

Music of John Williams great composer conductor of the Steven Spielberg film Jaws that is our what's worse today?

What's worse sharks or snakes 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 You can also text us on the civic media app.

What's worse snakes or sharks on Jim?

Listing just down the road at Appleton via the app on WGBW.

Jim says snakes are definitely worse.

If you avoid the water, you can avoid sharks.

Snakes are everywhere.

Now that's a great point.

That might be the winner right there today, right out of the gate, Zomers, because you're not going to find a shark when you go hiking.

If you do call me because we want to put you on the air.

When you set

up a

remote show by Black River Falls, you're not going to find any sharks, but you may set up near a nest of snakes.

Indeed we did.

And by the way, the snakes at Black River Falls were lovely.

They didn't bother us as we set up there next to the Black River in Black River Falls.

listening in the 608 on WMDX, Connie says, I would say sharks are worse, but our waters are salt free and no sharks.

Well, again, great point.

If you don't live near salt water, probably not gonna, no, no, what if somebody, I'm not advising this, but what if somebody like got like say a baby shark and released it in the Wisconsin River?

It's not gonna live, right?

No, I'm pretty

sure it wouldn't.

But what wouldn't that be something if it did?

Hey, I mean you're right It'd be something I very own Eliza why Eliza lovely person whatever sales reps here at WGBW right here in Green Bay Eliza texting in saying resident Aussie here says snakes She's a lovely person from Australia originally and she says most snakes won't bother you but an eastern brown snake

wants you dead.

I say I would love to go to Australia, but now that I know there's the eastern brown snake.

Everything in Australia wants you dead.

Animal.

Oh, animal.

That the koala.

The koala doesn't want you dead, do they?

But I got not sure.

They got dingos.

They got dingos in Australia.

One of the greatest one of the greatest lines I've held this on this program before one of the I would like to hear Eliza say this in her lovely a native accent I hired hired a guy David one time as a bartender was one of the tilt it killed and in his interview David tell me about he and a college buddy went to Australia and they rented like a VW of bus and went around Australia and they looked out they slept in the bus and at night They heard a commotion.

They looked out the window and there were a pack of dingos

Eating their food of the picnic table they left and they left a can of Pringles on the tip on the on the on the picnic table and David said we looked out the window and the Dingles ate our Pringles You know I said rookie move I said that that that is a t-shirt right there.

It is the Dingles ate my Pringles But also

just just a quick thing if you are spending time outdoors and you leave your food unsecured outside You're asking for that

Well, that's probably true

Um snakes or sharks 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 tyler Listing in beautiful wisconsin rapid says flying asian shark carp with limb burger breath Those shark carp are a thing by the way also, uh, I think this is uh Eliza again saying koalas are fine, but watch out for drop bears

Well, we're gonna have to have her on and talk about that.

All right.

Listener on WXCO in beautiful Bull Falls radio in Wausau says, until they come up with a shark NATO movie, I will vote.

What?

Oh, sorry.

Snake NATO.

That's right.

Snake.

I ruined it.

Snake NATO movie.

I will vote for sharks is the worst of the two because of the big shark NATO movie.

Nicely done.

Sorry.

I bashed the line there.

I'll listen at WXTO.

All right, Fred in Cottage Grove, listening on WMDX.

Fred is on the line.

Fred, snakes or sharks, what's worse?

Snakes.

You go to Devil's Lake, there's snakes in the rocks, but there's no sharks in the lake.

That's a great point.

Love it.

All right.

Thank you Fred appreciate you have a great weekend down there beautiful cottage Grove a dug up in Rapids as well listening on W F HR just simply says laying shark

You know also something else our graphic for today as Todd mentioned a little while ago for snakes It has the movie poster for snakes on a plane for sharks.

It has the movie poster for jaws You know something interesting August 29th the last Friday of that month

For the 50th anniversary Jaws is coming back to theaters

Wow, there you go There you go be scared all and of course a lot of people never seen the movie because it came out so long ago as a whole new experience in the theater I remember that movie came out.

It was it was crazy.

I

know we don't have

anything else in the line As if I needed anything else.

I'll tell you what made me feel old Thomas this morning's mind trying to get a bed after sweating my

You know, what off yesterday and I thought, boy, howdy, I think it was the heat, though, because I'm used to lifting stuff.

It was the it was the heat.

It zaps you.

That's what it does.

Oh, yeah.

What's what's worse?

Snakes or sharks, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.

Zombers was worse.

I think, you know, I will say I like snakes and sharks.

I think they're cool.

Really?

Yes.

I think a lot of animals that are that people think are creepy.

You know have a purpose besides like mosquitoes mosquitoes should all die But I'm gonna say snakes are worse for very similar reasons to some of our listeners that snakes are pretty much everywhere and like Eliza mentioned There are some species of snake that do just want you dead Whereas sharks pretty much all sharks unless there is something wrong with them will leave you alone.

What do you say?

Yeah, I go along with that.

Uh, I would say

Yeah, I'm gonna say snakes are worse just because I don't swim in the ocean that much of what I do.

I don't go above my knees or my thighs.

So, I know they can still get you, but yeah, I'll say snakes are worse.

All right, come on back.

Peter Rape on his next one.

What's worse?

With a week in review, the wild and wacky of human behavior were live in Green Bay on the Civic Media radio

network.

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Right now, folks, it's been a couple of weeks.

He is an international man of mystery and love.

He also happens to be the managing editor of epombsworld.com, the one.

only you know him you love him mr peter rapine ladies and gentlemen very good there you go thank

you you make me sound like james bond if only james bond had a phone full of memes

Now now you're you're you're coming in the background looks fantastic because you're not at your home base of Brooklyn and I appreciate you being a transparent because people ask me how is Peter doing because you recently found love you traveled to Europe and now you're in Vancouver I'll simply say this looking at you on the stream joining us from Vancouver.

You look like a man who's satisfied

You

look very happy.

Yeah

I fled the country.

I'm on the lamb.

I'm not returning.

You've literally left

the

country.

It's only half joke, but yes, I am.

I'm in Canada, Canadian summer.

They do things pretty well up here.

It's been pretty nice.

Now, I've never been to Vancouver.

I've heard it's a lovely, lovely city.

Excaping the July heat in August has been

a huge benefit to my mental health.

Right?

Yeah.

It's important.

It's important.

Canada is lovely.

I've been to like Alberta, like Calgary and Bamford.

I've never been to Vancouver, but have you gotten out the countryside or is it more in the city?

Yeah, we've been up in the interior the most near then.

Okay.

But it's making me feel pretty good because I look at the weather in New York and I see it today.

It's like 95 degrees and... It's like a cooker.

It's like a hot pot.

So I'm having a nice summer.

Yeah.

Okay, awesome.

Well, people ask me because they're genuinely people like this segment and they say how how is Peter doing?

And so I would like to like to update people.

All right, Peter, as they say back home, that's not why you're called.

He is the manager of ebombs world.

And here now Peter brings us the great staff of ebombs world.

This is not fiction.

These are real headlines, real stories of the wild and the wacky wacky Peter Rapun.

And it's been a sad week for our 80s icons.

Yes.

Obviously Ozzy and depending on how you feel about the guy Hawk Hogan But another character of ours beloved has been taken down this week and headline reads Chuck E cheese mascot arrested for credit card fraud Say it ain't so

Chuck E cheese mascot arrested for credit card fraud Peter and can you guess what state this happened

in Todd?

I have not looked at the story.

I'll guess

Florida

You are correct, my friend.

Yes, absolutely.

So the short of it is a Chuck E. Cheese mascot was handcuffed inside of a Chuck E. Cheese while he was performing for a child's birthday party.

He was let outside in handcuffs while wearing the suit, mask still on.

And

They, I guess, had been tracking him.

I don't know how much credit card fraud he could have committed.

Obviously, he's still working at a Chuck E Cheese.

That's a great point, by the way.

But the photo of a police officer holding his arms, staring right into the camera as he leads Chuck E out to the car is pretty iconic.

It's incredible.

Go to epomsworld everybody at epomsworld.com because you got to see this, as Peter just said, and as someone who was a general manager at a Tilted Kilt, a franchise like this, this is your nightmare.

If you're a GM at one of these places or a head of marketing, because as you said,

The guy's entire suit is on.

So it's not that Joe Smith got arrested or whatever the guy's real

name

is.

It's literally looks like Chuck E. Cheese himself is a perpetrator

here and has been let out in handcuffs.

Well, that's exactly what it is.

And they say, you know, no bad press.