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Good afternoon, everybody.
I'm Todd Allbaugh, along with Mr. Aaron Zummerz on the board.
It is now six minutes past the hour of three o'clock.
Welcome in hour number two of the big program here on Wednesday, June 18th, 2025.
It's a great day to be Wisconsinite and it is pump day.
That's right, there's the old camel reminding us we're halfway through the week here in downtown Madison, the world headquarters, overcast skies.
A little few raindrops there, Mr. Zommer's raindrops keep falling.
Can we look out at the old Sam Davidson street cam?
Is that angled correctly or not?
I believe so.
All
with their umbrellas there as they're going down through State Street.
Beautiful State Street here and down.
Look at that.
A little rain in the window.
So it's a little blurry.
But yeah, cars speeding along.
Trees are very green, right?
I went for a walk last night at Picnic Point on the University of Wisconsin Madison campus.
Beautiful night.
Things are very green.
Looks like it's an end door.
the planet of Ewoks.
Yeah, Star
It looks a little bit like that.
All right, very good.
We'll check in the rainy skies, but then heating up going to be darn near 90 degrees by the end of the week and humid.
It's going to be sultry here in the state of Wisconsin.
Coming up at the bottom of the hour, our friend, our colleague, Earl Ingram, Jr.
is going to be joining us via StreamYard from Milwaukee, where tomorrow.
for Juneteenth or the largest Juneteenth celebrations and I believe the Midwest or the country is going to happen in Milwaukee tomorrow.
One year ago, Earl and I were out at Baraboo celebrating Juneteenth out there so Earl will be in to give us the details on that.
And in just a bit, what's worse, but sticking around for just a bit of our number two here, our friend and ongoing contributor.
He's our guest every Wednesday.
Former Republican like myself, now a senior advisor with the Lincoln Project joining us from his home in
Uh, suburb in Washington, DC, via StreamYard, Trigby Olson.
Trigby, appreciate you sticking around.
Of what?
hang on.
Before you do
let's, let's set it up.
In hour number one, we talked about two things.
A, Republicans in the legislature looking at cutting at least $87 million from the, uh, UW system budget.
We were the first to report on this on, on Monday night.
And also talked about political extremism and political violence about the tragedy the assassination that happened in Minnesota.
So what do you got?
branching
branching.
Alex Dahlman, and there may be more according to it.
And then you also have Brian Stiles, who graduated from the UW Madison Law School.
That is just a partial list that the chat GPT machine came up with.
It also says that a John Jagler did not complete his degree from UW Parkside, but did attend.
So is there a cheer point of all these Republicans that.
We're happy, apparently, to pay their tuition and be graduates of these fine University of Wisconsin system public universities, but now they want to cut 87 million because they say it's not good enough for other people.
For Koski, yeah.
I don't know.
All right.
So the point
that they
Just ridiculous.
Trigby is fired up today over this report that we were happy to and proud to a first break on Monday night that Republicans are looking to gut the UW system.
I'm very concerned,
let's go
Let's go to the phone lines eight five five seven five two four eight four two out to Los Angeles, California and LA Tom LA always a pleasure would say you
Yeah guys, I have a question for you.
Um Are Republicans?
In the in power are they just pinky or are they just?
You know, everything comes back to them.
They're obsessed with bathrooms.
They're obsessed with gay people.
They're obsessed with lesbians.
I mean, they're obsessed with anything that has to do with sexuality.
Is that because they've been so repressed over the years?
And they, you know, when they went to college, they didn't really meet anybody outside of their own little circle.
Or what?
Because honestly,
I mean I'm to the point where I think the chef Donald Trump a simple question Donald Trump are you closet a gay man?
You definitely love get you definitely love man.
There seems to be a possession strong man.
There seems to be a possession Trigby
He often gets going about and there is a lot of truth to this I had never met so many gay men in my life Until I got you know went out and worked on Capitol Hill Republican offices were full of of closeted gay men and there it's kind of a strange It was a strange phenomenon back then Todd and you and I've talked
do too, but they keep talking about DEI and everything that it's like, why don't they just come out of the closet already instead of being self-hating, gay, closeted men?
No, you're right.
I mean, to your trivia's point, when I worked in the capital and also in DC, trivia's right.
There were all kinds, particularly of gay, closeted men.
I was one of them for a while.
And here's a sad fact for Todd.
In all my years, I can honestly tell you, I never hooked up with a closeted Republican.
Think of the opportunities missed in all those years.
But I mean, you're right.
Stuart Stevens writes in one of his books that, you know, it's one of the dirty, it was all a lie that L.A.
Tom's point that.
that they're so obsessed with anti-gay stuff and either so many of the legislators or their staff are themselves gay and living in the closet.
It's sick.
I mean, I can honestly say I was never hypocritical about it.
I was never anti-gay living in the closet back in the day.
But it's, I think he has a good point, Trigby, that-
So Tim, you know, Tim is gay and-
And he makes that point in his book, right?
Like from that perspective of how many, you know, like, and I think in your case, and I think in Tim's case, I don't want to put words in his mouth.
Like the truth of the matter is, and regardless of what your truth is, one of the things I've learned in life is a lot of bad things happen when people don't feel comfortable living their truths and a lot of people get hurt.
And yeah.
Yep, totally.
Who's
John Jett?
Is that Cam?
Yeah.
Cam says, well, Grindr didn't crash at the RNC for no reason.
That's true.
That's actually true.
Our friend Kristen did a whole, a whole segment on the fact that Grindr was going nuts at the RNC in Milwaukee.
All right, it's 15.
Oh, and we want it quickly.
Let's get that questions out.
That was on Matt and Milton.
If Trigvie can answer it quickly here.
Matt in Milton was talking about political extremism.
Trigvie, what can we do about this religious extremism in America?
I think it's a big problem as is money in politics.
Yeah, so well first thing that you can do is you can subscribe to my sub-stack cuz just about every day although today I didn't write I have been putting out three things that people can do to stand up and fight for democracy and fight extremism and I've also broken down what I've learned about extremism from around the world Which ironically in some cases got attacked viciously by extremists But that I just kind of found that funny sort of like me having an opinion on how Jordan Love Place quarterback
if I knew what I was talking about, I'd probably be playing quarterback for the Green Bay Packers.
But what do we have to do?
The first thing that we have to do is everybody needs to think about what can they personally contribute to the cause.
And the cause has to be, you know, it's not about you, it's about the people who've been succumbing to the extremism.
And I say this in many ways, Donald Trump is sort of, whether they realize it or not, and I'd probably take a lot of lack for this.
There's a lot of Americans who are in an abusive relationship with Donald Trump because he isn't ultimately serving their interests, but they're sticking with him.
It's not about you.
Like if you've ever dealt with somebody who's in an abusive relationship, attacking the abuser isn't what helps.
You got to ask them questions and lead them to find in themselves that they're being abused.
And so a lot of it is about how do we engage with people?
Not by preaching at them, but by getting them to think with their with their conscious part of their brain about the cognitive dissidents that Exists and I mean one example is the tariffs 73% of the 10% of jobs in Wisconsin under threat from tariffs The 74% of those people voted for Donald Trump.
Yeah, well said.
If you have somebody in your community who's a nurse or like these legislators who went to the UW system, ask them questions.
Were you indoctrinated, Robin?
And if so, here's my question, Robin.
If so,
Why didn't you do something about it because, quite frankly, the path you chose to go down has had more ability to impact from college forward the UW system than anybody with the exception of probably Tommy Thompson?
true.
So, all right.
Why did you allow this to happen, Robin?
Robin Voss, Trigme Olsen.
Come on the show, Robin.
It's been a long time.
Give it up.
And honestly, I will be nice.
It's gonna be a big, I'll be
nice.
Being a butter popcorn in the throwdown.
Let's go.
All right, time once again for what's worse.
No prize money involved, nothing to give away, just your opportunity to have your voice heard across all 11 stations on the Civic Media Ready Network.
Gonna give you the question, take your answers on the other side of the break.
What's worse, the category today tricky, what's worse, people who are critical of others or people who are not critical of others.
People who are critical of others people who are not critical of others 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 or you can text us on the civic media app 45 seconds trivia was worse
Well,
absolutely think about it through the break.
You're going to think about it.
Zommer's going to think about it.
We're going to pop up some Robin Voss popcorn here.
Put some extra butter on since he's a little.
Little slick right now up there at the state Capitol.
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It's kind of like us because
it's a diss track so
It sounded
I just I don't listen to it.
I listen to virtually no rap.
So, you know, that shows how what an idiot I am 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 the what's words category today?
People who are critical of others or people who are not critical of others 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 as Trigby said, this is a category today that might make people think a little bit
A little bit self-reflective, perhaps.
I don't know.
855-752-4842, 855-742-4842.
John, listening on WMDX, our old friend John, says, gotta be critical of others when necessary to start conversation and hold them accountable for their words and actions, all while creating a buzz to inform others.
Wish the media would do more of this.
24-7.
Thank you, John.
Appreciate that.
Jim, listening in Brookfield, the WAUK says, for the sake of my marriage, I have to say people who are not critical of others are worse.
Otherwise, my wonderful wife will be critical of my answer.
Jim from Brookfield, appreciate that, Jim.
855-7524842.
Let's go to the phone lines.
Jimmy, listening on WMDX in Madison.
People who are critical of others or people who are not critical of others Jimmy was worse.
Oh Definitely people who are critical of others, but I also like them to be Qualified, you know, like for instance, there was a time I remember when everybody that ran for the Tea Party Barely had a college education, but they all ran and criticized and wanted to tear stuff down But if you're qualified I can take the criticism
if you have experience i can take the criticism but watching people who have no interest in governing watching people who have no interest in being making things good for the american people it's just destructive and it's crazy yeah i can remember i can remember when republicans were talking about being uh the party of family but it seems like
And this was a few years back, but it seemed like every other month a Republican was either getting caught in the bathroom.
They were getting caught with pages.
They were just the hypocrisy of it all.
So, you know, and this is like listening to Donald Trump, you know, he doesn't know.
But yet all of the media seems news outlets talking heads.
They are wasting hundreds of thousands of precious hours talking about this.
And he
Absolutely means nothing to us because just grifting and all of his friends see that that's a powerful thing to do and you can get away with it.
Right.
And they're doing it.
Thanks, Jimmy.
Appreciate the call.
855-752.
It was.
It was a great radio voice.
Jimmy still there?
Jimmy, have you done radio before?
Jimmy is not there.
All right.
Well, Jimmy, if you're listening, uh, Trigby and I vote you as they had the best radio voice of the day, including me, who's paid to do this on radio.
Uh, well said, Jimmy.
855-752-4842.
Brian listening on WGBW in beautiful Green Bay.
We were just up there last week.
Great crew up there at GBW says, I refuse to be critical of this question.
All right.
Cam listening to Appleton.
My wife's boyfriend is pretty critical, not a fan.
A land listing in Madison and WMDX, people who are not critical of others, may be worse for society as a
I'm jumping in now for my answer because Len worded it better than I was going to Yeah, people who are not critical of others may be worse for society as a whole because that's how we end up with people like Robin Voss in charge where if you don't look at what he's saying and say, huh That doesn't add up then you just let terrible things happen
Heather listening in Eau Claire on Facebook says in this day and age I need a caveat
that these critical thoughts are based on facts.
But honestly, the combo of being Gen X and a woman of a certain age, i.e.
menopause, I don't have time for milk toasty people.
So those who are not critical are worse.
Don't ask me if you don't want to know.
I agree.
Trigby, people who are critical of others are people who are not critical of others.
What's worse?
I
People are
Yeah.
I'm just looking here.
David new Berlin says people who are critical of others are worse.
I'm certainly I'm not entirely confident that people that are critical of others are able to acknowledge their own shortcomings.
There
See.
Yeah, that's a good point.
You see that's kind of what what trick we were saying there Scott listing in Madison under the MDX as people who are not critical of others end up voting for people like Trump So yeah lack of critical thinking is worse Greg and beautiful Genesee depot on to be a UK's as people who are not critical of other people are worse Kurt in Madison thing just skipped it per Kurt Madison says what's worse when?
When we say others, which I think includes politicians, then it would clearly be those who do not criticize.
criticizing you.
Well, the camera is, we bought the camera at Walmart and it sits on top of a thing and it's kind of cockeyed.
It's like the seamstress that couldn't menstruate, she was cockeyed.
Anyway, uh, Trigby, uh, so there we go.
There's another edition of what's worse.
We appreciate everybody for, uh, for playing, playing along.
That was a lot of fun.
Trigby, thanks for hanging around and for bringing us your insight as always.
You'll be watching the, uh, the Packers on next, our friend, Earl Ingram, Jr.
Who's a big Detroit Lions fan?
So I'm, I'm worried.
I think that I think the Lions could, uh, could give us the Packers some trouble this year.
They're good.
Whatever, Todd.
Wow.
No respect for the Lions.
We'll find out where Earl Ingram thinks about that.
And more importantly, what's happening in Milwaukee over Juneteenth.
Don't go anywhere.
It's the All Ball Show across Wisconsin on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back to the Tell All Ball Show on the Civic Media Radio Network.
And it's now 35 minutes past the hour of three o'clock here.
And whenever you hear that music, you know that our friend, our colleague, Civic Media's own Earl Ingram Jr., cannot be far behind.
And I'm pleased to announce, such as the case today, we welcome via StreamYard from the Milwaukee area, Mr. Earl Ingram joining us live.
Earl, thanks so much for coming on.
I'm honored and privileged to have the opportunity to share time with you once again.
The
privilege and honor is ours, Earl.
We were talking before we came on the air about a year ago, tomorrow is Juneteenth, a year ago on Juneteenth, you and I were up in Baraboo, Wisconsin in Southwest Wisconsin for their first.
annual celebration as it turns out, a day similar, at least in Madison like it, a little drizzly out here.
But boy, what a great day that was, Earl, to see that community of Southwest Wisconsin come together to celebrate Juneteenth.
And then I would say at least personally for me, equally as fun, was just spending some time hanging out with you.
We went around Devils Lake State Park, had a meal together, and it was just a great day of sharing and hanging out.
You know man, what it what it really was was You know, we live in the same state and people can be so far away and and and and not really get to know one another and That opportunity we we got to share with one another was precious and it just just goes to show that you know, it's as big as the earth is you know
we don't have to stay so separated, and you get a chance to meet each other in different environments, and that's always good, that's always positive, and if we can do that more on a global scale, we wouldn't be facing the kind of things that we face as human beings.
I couldn't agree more.
I want to offer you an apology on the air, Earl, because we had this great meal, we hung out last year, and we said, we need to do this more often.
I have been remiss in making this happen more often, and I want to apologize to you and tell you, we're gonna have these conversations on the air and off, but particularly on the air, more often, that's gonna be my goal, moving forward, if you're willing to do it, because of what you just said.
The more that we talk to one another, even though we may have come from different places or have differences, I think that's the best medicine, or at least a large part of the medicine, to heal.
What's going on in this country in this state right now?
You know if we if we don't communicate one with the other then we we stay estranged and You know we're facing we're looking at the things that are going on in the world right now and at the root of most of those is misunderstanding of other human beings and the answer certainly can't be because we don't communicate one with the other that Then we rely on destroying one another.
I mean that's barbaric
at his core.
But, you know, I would be honored.
And, you know, thank you very much for the invitation.
Yeah, absolutely.
And, Zomers, let's make sure that you hold me accountable.
Let's do that.
On the lighter side, quickly, we had our friend, Trigby Olsenon, who likes to brag about being one of the millions of Green Bay Packer owners.
And I brought up the fact, of course, that you're a Detroit fan.
And he dissed a little bit.
I'm worried about the Lions, Earl, this year.
Well, you know, it's strange you say that.
I had a pretty long conversation with the grave digger this morning.
Gilbert Brown, who he
knows
very
well.
Absolutely.
You know, we are we are preparing to resurrect the Gilbert Brown football camp in the city of Milwaukee, which we did for 16 years prior to COVID.
And so COVID shut that down.
Well, on July 7th, we'll kick off our 16th year.
of that free football camp.
Gilbert Brown, the grave digger himself, makes that happen, makes that possible when thousands of young boys and girls will get an opportunity.
You don't know anything about Gilbert Brown, but get a chance to be engaged in a three day camp that will be, you know.
sponsoring.
And that's just one of the many things I love about you and about what you've done in the Milwaukee area because you're just one of those guys, Earl, that says, here's something you should be done.
Let's just do it.
You know, you get things done in the Milwaukee area in your community.
And I just thank you for that.
Well, you know, man, at the root of it is what I want.
I grew up
In the 1960s, you know, as a young boy, as a young boy, and I was experiencing community at its best.
And I am who I am because of that community.
It's safe.
It certainly was together.
And it kind of made me who I am.
And so children today don't have that opportunity.
Technology and all sorts of other things take them away from those kinds of things.
And in the years that I have left, my goal has been along with others to do everything possible for us to make sure that they have a better opportunity in life.
And I think that's kind of like passing a baton is the verbiage that's used a lot.
But it clearly is.
And I always tell people in my community that unless we pull together as a community and make sure that those who come after us
have a better opportunity in life than the future is not very bright.
I couldn't agree with you more, Earl.
B, he's much too modest.
You know, these phrases like, oh, whatever time I have left, like he's some kind of an old guy.
I'm telling you, we were up at the Baraboo Bluffs last year and anybody's gone to Devil's Lake State Park.
You have these granite steps that are built in and we're hiking up and, and Earl's about.
what 15 well almost 20 years older than me and Todd's gonna and Earl's just like come on man come on what are you what are you I mean you're in fantastic shape or you're in fighter shape
well for a guy that will soon be 71 wow um people people can't believe that I'm that age I'll tell you I don't feel it I don't feel a day older than 70
Well, you're, you're beating the butt of a 55 year old.
Let's
say that
much.
Uh, first of all, before we get to, uh, Juneteenth Earl, uh, first Jim in Brookfield listening in at the UK says, hi, Earl, where can I get a woke hat?
Like the one you're wearing for those not, not watching on the stream, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Earl's wearing this great hat.
This is a woke.
Is that a custom made piece, Earl?
Is that, are you launching a new line of hats of clothing to Earl Ingram, junior line?
Well, well, you know,
It is kind of custom made and I had it made at the height of the discussion on woke.
Because I know the true definition of woke before somebody changed it.
And so the definition of woke, I don't care whether it's Rosé's thesaurus or Webster or whichever dictionary you look in, there's already been a definition for woke.
It's perceptive.
and somebody who, you know, basically is aware.
And even though people have changed the definition of it, I'm very comfortable in making sure that people see me with my walk hat.
And it's always good to hear from Jim from Brookfield.
So, Jim, it's always good to hear from you, my friend.
Absolutely.
Earl, I think it's always good.
We have these celebrations for a reason and that is to commemorate things I think it's always good just to take a step back and our friend Matt Flynn likes to say he likes to say Matt Flynn you're not woke if you don't know history You're not woke unless and until you know history.
I think he's right about that So give us a little bit of history Earl Ingram on on Juneteenth and the origins and what this really means
Well, I can tell you that I never knew I wasn't taught anything about Juneteenth day when I was in school
really
And absolutely now.
And, you know, it was so ironic about it is that we're facing a time right now where the history is being erased.
We've got a president of the United States who thinks that all of that history should be wiped away and people should never know.
But Juneteenth, June 19th, 1865, when Union soldiers arrived in Galveston, Texas.
uh, to announce the end of slavery and, uh, you know, the day that blacks were freed down, you know, most people would say, well, why, why, why do you guys need to have?
And I've heard this said, uh, a separate day, 1776, the birth of American Independence Day is our celebration.
And, and that's the day that all of us.
should celebrate, why do you have to have a separate day?
Well, that day, 1776, the birth of America's independence didn't include black people.
And so black people weren't set free at that point in time.
So it was, again, 1865 when the Union soldiers arrived in Galveston, Texas, two years.
after the Emancipation Proclamation was issued by then President Abraham Lincoln on July 1st, 1863, I believe it was.
And so it decried, it said that all enslaved people in Confederate territory were then free.
But two years later, that information still hadn't reached Texas.
Galveston, Texas and people were still being enslaved.
So it was at that point in time that finally the Union soldiers were able to make it down to Texas and make sure that people were made aware that they were no longer slaves two years after the Emancipation Proclamation and celebrations began at that point in time.
And you know, there's 250,000 or so.
black people in America who were enslaved at that point in time.
And so they were, for the first time in their lives, declared free.
Well, I find, thank you for that history lesson.
Number one, number two, maybe the most fascinating thing you said so far, at least on that.
That part there was at the beginning of it.
Yeah, I'm as you know, I grew up in Southwest, Wisconsin.
No, uh, a ton of how to 5,000 people.
We literally had one black family in our school district.
And I, I went to grade school, high school in the seventies and eighties.
So I never was taught about Juneteenth, but to hear you as a black person growing up and saying that you are not, you never heard about it, uh, growing up in school either.
That's a fascinating and be just so sad.
that we're not, there's so much opportunity to do better to teach kids where they came from and why so that everybody knows the history so we can appreciate, because we all got a journey Earl, doesn't matter where we came from, we all got a journey and I think we need to do more to respect each other's journey.
Well I think more than anything else, this history needs to be taught.
to all children and and and not just the black children because 100% you know as long as people aren't made aware can you imagine I Think sometimes about my ancestors Excuse me what they went through and to finally you know hear Abraham Lincoln and and you know the Emancipation Proclamation and all of those things
and finally be freed of one of the worst chapters in the history of mankind, and yet still not be free, is a colony.
And I'll just say this, you know, the past is the past, and people say, that is better left than the past.
But my response to that always is, you know, if you listen to Jewish people,
They'll say never forget the Holocaust and yet people are telling people of color That that happened such a long time ago.
We need to get beyond that.
Why are you bringing that up?
Well again, it was a part of the history of our nation and it should never be forgotten
Stay tuned more with the Earl Ingram Jr.
on the other side.
Talk a little Juneteenth and other things here as well.
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Welcome back to the title ball show on the civic media ready to work where it is now eight minutes before the hour of the top of the hour of the top of the hour at four o'clock it's going to be ABC or CBS News depending upon which of our great stations you're listening to a little weather update pretty low drizzly today that it's going to heat up by the end of the week 90 degrees or close to that maybe heated indexes near 100
by the end of the weekend.
And then our great sports reporter, Mike Clemens will be in with a sports update.
And then the Maggie Dawn show across the state of Wisconsin on the Civic Media Ready Network from four until six, followed by Pete Schwabba and Nightlight from six until eight.
And then after that, it's our friend.
Robert Pilot with Native Roots Radio, right now being joined by Earl Ingram Jr.
here of Civic Media, talking to little Juneteenth.
But Earl, I want to pick up on something before we move to tomorrow's Milwaukee celebration.
You were speaking so well eloquently about the need for education of our young people, just talking about the lack of teaching about Juneteenth in our schools.
But Robert Pilot has brought up as well that we don't do enough in our school systems and teaching our youth about the true, a lot of revisionism these days on the history of Native Americans in this country.
And I just think that we all function better.
We were talking off the air, the importance of getting to kids.
I don't care whether it's behavioral or education or whatever.
When they're young, through programs like yours, because we become better adults and it's a lot better to invest in kids when they're young than trying to turn around bad behaviors, they
get old.
And a lot cheaper.
All right.
And I would agree with the gentleman, the Native American.
Robert Pilot, yeah.
If you if you know their history, you know the history the fact that our nation has erased What transpired in this country is
it's
really shameful and Who wants to be game in the long run?
But by not telling that history, you know, the Native Americans had Some some ways and some things
that they did and that they understood about the beauty of this land to always leave it better.
After they left, when they would come to a place, they were very much concerned about making sure that once I left this place, this place is in a better position than it was before I got here.
And I think our nation could learn a lot from that.
And so that history needs to be, again, resurrected.
100%.
Talk to us a little bit, Earl.
Juneteenth proper is tomorrow.
I know you could come on tomorrow because you're going to be busy.
Tell us a little bit about the activities down in the great city of Milwaukee tomorrow, please.
So I'll be at June.
I'll start probably at about seven o'clock and I'll be there until at least four p.m., five p.m.
Juneteenth day.
there'll be 30 to 40,000 people.
Wow.
Inside of an eight to 10 block radius.
If you can wrap your arms around the majesty of having 30 to 40,000 people gathered inside of that 10 block radius for the majority of the day.
Milwaukee is the largest Juneteenth festival.
In the country Milwaukee is one of the oldest Juneteenth festivals in the country.
I remember At at 16 years old we're going to my first Juneteenth day celebration.
I think I might have missed one But over 51 years I've been there And it is a wonderful wonderful time where you know people who sometimes have a difficult time, you know
getting together and doing things collectively.
It is a day that all of that is set aside.
And our children and the elders get to interact, which we don't do enough of.
And on that particular day, all the rest of the garbage and junk is swept under the rug.
And people understand the importance of what this is all
about.
Two minutes left, Earl Ingram.
What have I not asked you yet?
Do you want to make sure that people across the state know about Juneteenth or about the activities tomorrow?
Well, that people should understand that this, for those who say, you know, why do you need a special holiday?
Well, because of the things that transpired in this country.
And so when you talk about the Fourth of July and
And why can't we all just celebrate the 4th of July because we weren't all equal on that day?
And to some extent, we're still not that today.
But June 10th day is an opportunity again for my community to accept one another, to know about our riches as part of what June 10th day is about, is teaching the history to our children.
and bringing the ancestors back to life and having the elders interact with the children.
And so we could do that every day.
It would certainly transform and change our communities by having the elders and the young people, even though we've become further apart, you know, together, even for only this one day.
I really appreciate you, Earl.
I appreciate all your work down in the Milwaukee area.
Excited to hear that you and Gilbert Brown are restarting this camp for young people, both boys and girls in the Milwaukee area.
You're doing more than your part to make this state great, and we appreciate you and appreciate all the work you continue to do here at Civic Media.
Thank you, my friend, for being with us today.
Thank you for the invitation, man.
Talk to you later.
Talk to you soon.
Thank you very much.
Earl and Graham Jr., everybody.
Bye-bye.
My pleasure.
Thank you, Earl.
Also, many thanks as well, not only Earl, to Pat Critello, host of Mornings of Pat Critello, every morning from six until eight, who was on the program in the first hour.
And to Trig V. Olson, Senior Advisor at the Lincoln Project, also thanks to Aaron Zombers, a great producer as well.
And of course, to Earl Ingram Jr.
for being here on the show.
And all of you for listening, stay tuned.
Maggie Dawn is next.
This is Todd, reminding you that whatever you're fighting for,
Whatever you believe in, do not give up.
Keep banging your drum.
We'll see you tomorrow and recompobulate with Dan Schaefer on tomorrow's show.
Until then, make it a great day.
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