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Murder Mysteries and After-Bar Munchies (Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Fri Oct 24, 2025
Very cool.
This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight Conrad working the board.
Chris Mays is here in studio.
We're gonna talk some dinner detective.
That is coming up in just a minute.
Our question of the night, folks, is what is your favorite after-bar food?
And we've heard some pretty good, we gotta catch up on some texts, but we've had a lot of, breakfast was one.
I was surprised we didn't hear that earlier.
We did hear that late in hour two, but we'll read some of your texts coming up here too.
I gave everybody a great movie recommendation.
recommendation it's kind of violent but it's mostly just like total badass and it's called revenge you can stream it if you got a roku search check it out and i don't it's a french film and i believe there were subtitles but it is outstanding sometimes i'm in the mood for subtitles and sometimes i'm not yeah yeah um so we'll do that it is a bar ban friday night rocker will be here tonight filling in for terry bar
He is her Max Inc radio co-host on WMDX in Madison.
You can also listen to that great show that's on every Saturday night from six to nine PM on the app at civicmedia.us.
But Terry is our Wisconsin music expert and rocker will fill in tonight and he always does a great job.
Jim from Appleton in the 920 says the best post bar food was the Hungry Bull in Monash, Wisconsin.
They had a full menu.
There were omelets.
Their omelets were the best.
Sadly, they closed a few years ago.
Well, luckily, there's never usually a shortage of bar food.
You can always find sliders or fast food or whatever.
Thank you, Jim.
Bridget in the 818 says, pizza was an exclamation point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Conrad, could be a, could be a, you guys can get together for some pizza.
Conrad.
You know what I bought at Aldi the other day?
They had this thin crust bacon pizza and it looked like it was like,
Barely had sauce or cheese on it and little bits of bacon all over it.
I bought it.
For some sweet
You had to stare at it, that
feel good about yourself.
Mark from Prairie to Sack, he's in the 608 says, on the pilot of the spy comedy series, Chuck.
Oh yeah, Chuck.
Adam Baldwin in his role of spy John Casey suggested he was thinking of having pancakes after he took care in quotes of Chuck who had just had the intersect loaded in his head and Sarah Walker, the CIA spy that decided to save Chuck.
Fun and sued when the three three dead to rush off to defuse a bomb planted by planted to kill the general the kicker porn
helped save the day.
I have no idea what.
Wow.
There's a lot going on.
Speaking of
subtitles.
Whoa, Mark.
Yeah, I need some AI maybe.
Help us out
perk
Yeah, I saw it.
So help us out, Mark.
We'll clarify that text.
All right.
Chris Maze is here.
He is the producer of Dinner Detective.
Let's
get right into this, Chris, because I know you did shows.
The first time I heard about this in downtown Green Bay here, I think you guys were over at the Hyatt.
There is a wonderful young woman here who makes a great salad right down the street at the Fresh Kind.
Her name is Kayla.
Miller.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
And she is in
my cast.
we could play a game or something.
So the dinner detective, yeah, it's produced by clearly confused entertainment.
Unfortunately, I did not start the company, but I am involved on the
entity.
It was started by a gentleman named Scott O'Brien.
Scott worked in episodic television in Hollywood, and he worked for a very prominent executive producer who did a lot of law and crime type shows.
So he went to a murder mystery in LA.
David Kelly.
Maybe.
No, I can.
Yeah, David E. Kelly.
And then so Scott gets tickets through his wife to go see a murder mystery 21 years ago.
Oh, wow.
They go to this murder mystery in California and Scott's watching.
And our immersion and interactive theater was very popular then.
So he's watching this and thinking, well, we can do something different.
So he gets these true crime.
cases, access to all this stuff, comes up with the first script and they launch it at a restaurant in Southern California becomes this cult classic kind of thing.
Everybody's talking about it, start spreading throughout California.
And then finally, they start taking it nationwide.
So they went to different areas.
It's been it's where you have three in Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, we're still at the Hyatt.
We signed for another year there.
Sweet.
Yeah.
And it's a three hour, four act, as I said, interactive experience.
So it's all set in real time, present day.
So it's not anybody dressed up in like zootsuits and like 220s gangster type.
A bummer.
But so the idea is that guests come in, they know they're going to play a game.
We tell them that at the beginning because games have different things they have tools they have Boards whatever they have winners and they have
Losers
no prizes.
Oh Pete that is just that is so terrible of you to call people losers.
I know you are but I'm Prizes are better though, so you get the sense, right?
So then all of a sudden though this this this other thing happens another this death
And that changes the dynamic and suddenly, you know, anybody in this room could be a killer.
Right.
Performers implanted.
There's all these things so that nobody knows who's real and who's not.
But then so it's ultra realism versus comedy.
Right.
Clown world because you have your detectives.
And so think of your detectives.
We call it Saturday night.
Law and order meets Saturday night live.
So they become these detectives, right?
And so they do everything from the fifth dimension, right?
They're really trying to solve the crime, but they go about it in very unorthodox ways.
carry themselves in very unique ways.
I mean, they are the law.
Yeah.
Um, you know, uh, so it creates mayhem.
There's a script to it naturally because of the investigation, but also it's a lot of improv.
stars of the show is actually our guests when they come, what they bring to it, how they interplay with us.
love that.
Yeah.
So it's always unique.
You know, yeah, there's going to be a eventual end game that becomes, you know, we rotate the scripts about every six months here in Green Bay.
So there's always something fresh for people to come.
Do you write it?
Uh, no.
got created all this.
That's why I give him the he's the
call him the creator, whether he likes it or not.
I think he does.
And we're always trying to develop new storylines.
But we can also bend a lot of things within the existing storylines.
So, you know, so it has that true crime edge, which is very popular and people can get into that aspect, or they can embrace the comedy or they can just sit back and take in the whole experience as it is while they also have a great multi course meal.
And that whole thing
I hope that could be.
Wasn't there that TV show that was like a law show?
It was like a Judge Judy-esque type show, and the bailiff actually ended up...
Killing his wife in real life.
So you just make you you don't
manifest
this
on to the dinner names have been changed to
doing okay.
Well, you're familiar with the short shock you worked in a computer and your computer places and part of the nerd heard
and one of the things he had to cure was this Virus was out there
Well, they go rushing off to save the general.
They get to the place where it's a computer hooked up to this butload at C4 underneath there.
The clock is ticking down and Chuck goes to, his friend Morgan called up and just killed Chuck's computer with downloading this virus.
So Chuck goes in and shuts down the computer by downloading the Irene de Mova porn virus.
into the computer, I shot this on the computer.
Right when it clicks on one, you know, one second left.
So that's how porn saved the day.
can save the world.
It does a lot of good.
Yeah,
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know emphasis on big
bread
just some burgers and whatever
I found I did that when I lived in Vegas because that there you can go at two in the morning and get a steak or
you so coming home to cook at like two in the morning doesn't seem so out of yeah, great point Pesh to go.
It's very quiet.
So
finding pots and things you
know finding anything
the deer
are
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They can go to the dinner detective comm slash green
Dash Bay.
Okay, perfect.
And how often do you do them?
It depends.
We do them on select Saturdays.
We also offer private events.
So if you have a business or a civic group or some kind of organization that would like to have us do a performance for you at the Hyatt or we can bring it to you, we did one a couple years back on the roof of Titletown.
Oh, sweet.
Yeah, we've done them in mansions with koi ponds in the middle of the performing space.
So it's very durable, very flexible.
So there's a lot of ways to enjoy the dinner.
salad, bread, they get their choice of three different entrees and a fantastic dessert.
You know, I've gone a little retro recently because one show that I did not watch that now I'm starting to get into is Mr. Robot.
Did you ever watch that show with that Rami
did hook me right away.
I think it's my surreal kind of existential mentality, too.
You know, of course, I also watch the only murders in the building on Hulu love that because anything true crime and stuff like that, you know,
I'm definitely in the series more in recent times because
thinking about that, you know, I did see, I don't know if you saw, did you see
the film Sinners.
this kind of grounded realism but then fantastical
time.
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Oh, man.
I'm Pete Schwab, but this is Nightlight, our question of the night.
What is the best after-bar food?
I would imagine, Con, that since we, where we live and how popular cocktails, beer, alcohol is in this state, it would be just, we have to be the king of after-bars as well.
After-bar food, I would imagine.
So I was not surprised.
This is a popular question.
John from the 608 says,
Peter, are you reading the room?
Conrad sounded a little down.
That was the beginning of the show.
Yeah, okay.
Well, that's very sweet of you, John.
Looking out for the K-man.
Appreciate that, sir.
Edward in the 414 says, a greasy Chicago-style Italian beef sandwich with peppers on a hoagie, on hoagie bread.
Edward, yeah, the guinella bread.
Edward, it's gotta be guinella bread and dunked.
If I was in my 20s right now, Con, I would probably, not probably, but I've done crazier stuff, drive to Chicago and get an Italian beef sandwich.
And just to say I did it.
Maybe not from Green Bay, I would do it from Milwaukee though.
Tom from New Berlin says, after bar food, three things, grease and something with grease.
And the third thing is hamburger with grease.
Nice.
Yeah, what's your point, Tom?
That's what we're doing here, right?
Thank you, sir.
Melissa, from Willy Street in the 608 says, any greasy spoon that serves breakfast, oh, to be young again.
I could not agree more.
Melissa, and I've been to George Webb.
I've done that in the middle of the night.
I have done that as well.
So breakfast is becoming more popular here.
Thank you, Melissa.
We have a phone call?
Yes, we do.
Who do we have?
Ali from the North Woods.
It's a food question, Ali.
I was starting to get nervous.
You might have known, huh?
mind?
Well, I would say the best thing to have would be get an Uber.
If you're drinking, get yourself an Uber and get on through
drive-thru or go home and get a pizza.
Because my parents own the restaurant and inevitably
The drunk would wait until the bar closed and then they would want your their food to be ready Two minutes after they walked in the door and and one night I had I was like in my early 20s um Table probably eight ten people and they were the most obnoxious people there was they were
throwing the dinner rolls and the
clay because through the through the kitchen door yelling at the cook why is it taking so long and I finally had enough and I Gave them what for my knees were shaken and by the time I was done I was crying and I knew that my dad was gonna fire me when he heard
I
when someone
Well, I've gotten a little thicker skin
it seems
good, but I was really worried that I was gonna get fired But by the time that I gave them all what for there was a huge tip left on their
so
If they're listening to the radio, they know who they
And you know what?
I have one other quick story.
Sure.
You were talking about going to Chicago to get a sandwich.
it reminded me of the old mash thing where they ordered the ribs.
yeah.
And sauce?
You remember that?
I do remember that one, yeah.
So they ordered the ribs and sauce and they said, oh, you forgot the coleslaw.
through the
I love it.
Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids says ditto with tacos.
Tacos bravos from Taco John's.
I forgot about Taco John's.
I have never had Taco John's, I think.
I had it years ago.
It was good.
Also, Terry Barr is currently lost in the corn maze.
Can't make the show.
How does Tyler know that?
Maybe they're close friends.
Maybe it's a dinner detective type thing.
Paula, that's Conrad's mom, says, after bar, I'm not fussy.
It could be pizza, tacos, burgers, or chips and dip.
Really good.
You ever do that?
You ever just mow a bag of chips?
Oh, yeah, easily.
With nothing else, just like all the Doritos.
Doritos, yeah.
12,000 calories of just salt.
John in the 608 says, big country breakfast at the landmark in Freeport, Illinois, three pounds of breakfast.
And after I blended it into a haystack, oh, wow.
That's onion rings.
Yeah.
It was a dream meal.
Then afterwards, race home before the Cinderella Comet overtakes me.
Thank you, John Murray.
Conrad's dad says, back in the day, growing up in the Wisconsin Dells area, the best place to go after the bar closed was going to country kitchen and ordering their famous country skillet.
Yeah, that sounds like good.
Good after-bar food.
If my friends and I were partying in Madtown, the best after-bar food was a Euro and fries and Coke on State Street, Parthenon.
great deal at 4.95.
Steve, I don't know if you know this, and I totally agree with you, by the way, I've been there a few times myself, but they're, they close now like at 10 or something like that.
It's not open late anymore.
And I mean, it's probably for the better for the owners, but it probably cost them a lot of money because they were packed.
John says they stayed open till four and served nonstop drinks all night long.
Bless them all.
I think he's talking about the place in Freeport.
Yeah, awesome stuff.
Keep those texts coming, folks.
You can still get in on the fun.
What is your favorite after-bar food?
That's what we're talking about tonight.
And when we come back, it is a bar ban Friday night.
And Terry Barr has summoned her pal, Rocker, who will be filling in for her.
And he is going to give us the lowdown on all things Wisconsin music coming up next.
It's Peach Waba in Nightlight.
All right.
One of my favorite times of the week, Bar Band Friday night here.
And it doesn't even matter.
Terry Barr, we love her so much.
But even when she's not here, we are in good hands because we are joined
by our other Wisconsin music expert and Max Inc Radio co-host the award-winning music show here at Civic Media on WMDX.
It is on every Saturday from 6 to 9 p.m.
And if you don't live in the Madison area check out the podcast at civicmedia.us.
One half of this great team is here right now.
Rocker, how you doing buddy?
What's happening Pete?
Not too much.
Thanks for having me man.
As always, it's our pleasure and thank you for filling in.
I have to ask you, do you probably are a picture of health now after your recent issues?
I'm sure you're very healthy, but did you ever go through a time where you were chowing food after the bars?
Do you have a favorite 2am
There's one that I still love right now in Madison and it's called Paul's Pelmeni.
And Palmini is a Russian dumpling, and they're either filled with kind of like this beef or a potato, and then you order the dumplings either one, the other, or as a combo, and they have some curry and some seasonings to it, and you get it with a Russian rye bread, and it hits the spot.
It fills you
Yeah.
So Max Inc Radio is actually the radio part of what was Maximum Inc Music Magazine, which I distributed around the entire state of Wisconsin, all the way up to Green Bay, all over Wisconsin for 27 years from 1996 all the way into the lockdowns of the pandemic.
Wow.
And after the after the pandemic, we were kind of already doing
radio, and it just didn't make sense to bring back the print magazine.
But just so you know, you have a little background of where the Maxink name comes from.
I did
Let's see, you know, tonight I was going to tell you that you can find our podcast also on Spotify and Apple music and of course civic media.us slash max inc radio.
And this week on max inc radio, Terry and myself are off.
It's actually my 28th anniversary with my wife, Alice.
And so we're going to be selling bringing that Rob Roberts is going to be in spinning local Wisconsin made music.
And remember, you can listen to the podcast, of course, civicmedia.us slash max sync radio.
And for those bands that are out there listening, also, we play local music.
And if you'd like to submit your MP3 to us, send to music at civicmedia.us.
That's music at civicmedia.us.
And the same if you'd be interested in playing live in our studio.
So much fun.
Speaking of playing live in our studio.
Just two weeks ago, we had this guy Robbie Sender.
He's from Milwaukee.
He's a Milwaukee singer-songwriter, and he had an amazing performance in our studio, and he has a hero story of drug addiction and later redemption.
It was completely inspiring.
And of course, you can hear that on Spotify or Apple Music.
Let's check this out.
This is recorded right down at WMDX in Madison.
This is Robbie Sender.
This song is called Ten Feet Tall.
Yeah, I found lightning in the bottom.
Thunder follows everywhere she goes.
She got me running around on rooftops, got me bouncing off the wall.
Standing five foot eight, but today I'm ten feet tall.
The red my head's been growing.
I'm bound to float away.
Darling, draw your hero.
Strike me down to stay.
With your lightning in the bottle.
I love that.
That's
music you guys bring every Friday, whether it's you or Terry, it's so good and they're people I have never heard of.
Is that sort of discouraging?
I'm honest to God, because we have so much great talent here.
There's so many great musicians and bands.
Are there enough stages?
Are there not enough stages?
You know, I think that here in Wisconsin, we are drunk on local original music, all over the state, really.
Madison and Milwaukee are, you know, really huge scenes, you know, the Fox River Valley.
And that's one of the interesting things that I think about Mexican radio is that we play all these bands from all over the state.
and their original music.
And there's no way that any one person can really know all the local bands.
So when you
Let's see the the Madtown Managed Boys.
We were just talking about them Friday, October 24th.
That's tonight.
8pm.
They're playing at the Roxy in Madison.
That's 327 Gorham right off State Street.
Yeah.
And the Madtown Managed Boys, they're like a classic blues band.
They bring a fresh, authentic energy to blues and soul.
The guys are great.
And
They just make you want a boogie.
This is the Madtown Manage Boys.
It's called Get Out of My Life
Woman.
I mean, all over, everywhere up north, Milwaukee, Madison, has a great blues scene always.
And they're part of it.
Manish Boys, they're...
You know, younger, maybe the next generation of blues, where maybe you think of blues as really old guys with white hair.
And they're much younger and they have a world-class harmonica player.
Guitar is great.
Kyle Rayleigh.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I think I got that name wrong.
But they're just a fabulous band.
Yeah,
never seems to be a single penny left for me.
Great song.
Rocker is here.
He is one.
He is one of the hosts of Maxing Radio at WMDX.
And you can find all their stuff also at civicmedia.us, a great show.
He's filling in for Terry tonight.
And it's great to have him.
I don't know much about Scott.
That was interesting.
I have to admit, I'm not.
Yeah,
And after reunion shows in 2007 and 2008, the band members, they pursued other projects for a while, Lube, Angels and Outlaws, some really popular bands.
And then in April of 23,
Bad Wolf Reunited for a musical celebration of life for Kenny Gonzo Keith, the singer for Metal Gons, Final Thunder, and Predators.
He was loved here in Madison.
And the band loved playing together.
They got back together.
Now they are back.
They've got a band.
They're having a album completion party for a brand new album they're putting out that's going to be released later this year, Saturday, November 8th at the Boulevard Lanes, 8 to 1130.
And I'll tell you, this was recorded at Megaton Studios down here in Madison and Bad Wolf.
What can you say?
This is a world premiere that we had this morning on the John and
This is the
Wolf.
We have rocker here.
It's a bar band Friday night.
We are coming right back.
We'll try to squeeze one.
Who knows?
Maybe we could do two more rocker.
We'll see how we do, but we're going to do a really quick break and we're coming right back on bar band Friday night.
Don't go anywhere, folks.
It's Pete Chihuahua at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Monday on the show, Dustin Mack from Appleton's History Museum at the Castle will be here.
We're going to talk about Houdini, a really cool Houdini event they have coming up.
And then we're going to discuss, so, Wisconsin Dells Ghostboat Tours with Emil Bert...
Bert a lot.
I hope I'm saying that right.
And then it's 720 on Monday.
Strategic will be here.
Musician Strategic will be here performing in the studio.
Great guest next week.
Director Max Hay, critic Rob Thomas, filmmaker John Roach, Emerson Layman from WBAY and our pal Todd Michaels will be here talking paranormal stuff.
Lots to come next week.
Let's bang out a couple more of these texts before we get back to rocker.
John Murray says, now you've done it, Melissa at the 608 on Willy Street.
Breakfast submission, she doesn't like the cold shoulder.
I read it, John.
Talk her down, buddy.
I bounced all over, but I got to it.
Nick from Marshall, we read that one.
Don't you have anything else here?
John Murray says,
Thanks so much, y'all.
Very thoughtful, much appreciated.
Don't tell mama.
You're safe with us, John.
Thank you.
Steady Eddie closing things out on the text line says, Pete, after bar time, I used to say to myself, Steady Eddie, step back.
Put the bologna sandwich down.
Put the bologna sandwich, the cheeseburger and fries, nachos, Dorito, hot cheetos, crispy bacon, half gallon of vanilla ice cream, and those chocolate, chewy milk duds down and nobody.
gets hurt.
Most of the time I did not listen to myself.
Now I'm old and just stay home and avoid unhealthy food.
Temptations fueled by alcohol.
Conrad Steady Eddie needs a hug.
See what
Love them.
Prince grew up in Oshkosh and joined a jam band.
It would be Horace Green.
They're playing tonight, October 24th in Sheboygan at Three Sheeps Brewery.
October 28th in Appleton at the Stone Arch.
November 8th in Milwaukee with Moonglow at the Mad Planet and November 15th in Oshkosh.
Fifth Ward Brewing Anniversary Party.
Lots of chances to go see Horace Green.
Now let's check out their latest single.
It just came out in August.
This is called Cream.
This is Horace Green.
Trick heaven, grab and hold Move your body with your soul How
desert of y'all Pick you up and get your
That
All right Madison up off.
We just had her on our show just last week, which you can go and find apples and music and Spotify and hear the interview
marrying wandering melodies and twisted words.
She's 21 years old.
Madison Uphoff is a Wisconsin-born folk artist.
Thursday, November 6th, she'll be at the Harmony Bar on the east side of Madison, and she has a debut album holding pattern that came out in 2024.
This song is from that album.
It's called Right Up to the Rind.
This is Madison Uphoff.
Let's go.
You're driving
with your
I've never felt at ease with myself where I am Stole some eyes to cut some tears Left bartering with rules Praying they all once were land Do you really find Resolution from watching The minute hand you write up to the rind Is a prayer that keeps you tied Productive survival With the proof that the soreness provides
What I know is this moment is eating me alive Fixing seams and ironing out Reputation of sleep, middle seat With the windows down Out of reach and highest bow Turning beadbread
Have a great weekend, buddy.
And we'll talk soon.
All right, thanks be you got it.
All right That's rocker check out maxink radio if you're in the Madison area on WDM X or check out their podcast because it is a great show and you can check out all those podcasts on Spotify or civic media dot us Con what the the consensus on baloney
Bad bad and I would say breakfast food or tacos.
Maybe we're number one Bar food.
Yes, right now.
Not even drunk.
I could change that too.
All right, folks, we are going to get out of here and enjoy our weekends.
Hope you do too.
We will be back Monday to do this all over again.
It's just around the corner.
Don't despair.
We'll be back soon on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.
I'm Pete Schwabba saying good night,
Wisconsin.
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