Murder Mysteries and After-Bar Munchies (Hour 2)

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Murder Mysteries and After-Bar Munchies (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Fri Oct 24, 2025

Show Narrator

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who never leaves the house without wearing a cup, Pete Chwaba.

Pete Chwaba

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

Happy Friday, everybody.

Happy Friday, Conrad.

How are you?

I'm

Conrad

good.

Pete Chwaba

You have been a champ.

You have been trying to get, uh, to troubleshoot a little bit here

Conrad

in our fine

Pete Chwaba

studio, the nightlight studios, which is always, uh, it's always fun watching you work, but you've got our camera up and working and, um, I think, I think you've done a swell job.

Conrad

I'd like to think so.

It's working right now.

I can see your face.

So

Pete Chwaba

it's amazing what a guy can do with a slide rule and a Swiss army knife.

Very well done.

Yep.

Welcome, everybody, to the show tonight.

It's gonna be a fun show.

We've got an in-studio guest.

We've got some music talk.

It is a bar band Friday night.

That's always fun.

Our usual partner in crime, Terri Bar, will not be here tonight.

Did Terri give us an excuse?

Conrad

Not that she needs to.

She doesn't need a note or anything, but... I think maybe she just needed to take a day off, you know?

Really?

Or she's going to see some cool music.

Pete Chwaba

You know, she spends 20 minutes a week with us.

She needs a week off.

Conrad

Yeah, I think it's too much time with you, Pete.

Poor Conrad.

Pete Chwaba

We will miss Terri, but as usual, or as often is the case, her partner in crime on Max Inc Radio, the award-winning Max Inc Radio rocker will join us for Bar Band Friday night at 7.30.

That will be fun.

Always great to catch up with rocker.

And at 6.35 here in the studio, we are going to have a guest named Chris Mays.

He's great.

Chris lives up by me.

I don't know if you knew that.

He's like, uh, he's up in the, uh, greater Marinette area.

He's in the Burbs.

He's in Pestigo, but, uh, Chris will be here.

He is the, um, he's, he runs a, uh, dinner detective series.

Very fun.

You ever do one of those?

Conrad

No, I've played like, um, the game with family of trying to find who the murderer is, you know, of one of those games for Christmas or something like that.

But I haven't done that.

I feel like

Pete Chwaba

that would be really hard to organize something like that.

Conrad

All right, this family really likes to play games.

Pete Chwaba

No, I get that.

You talking about your family?

Yeah.

Yeah, ours too.

I mean, I love board games.

It's more about hanging out and yelling at each other and laughing and all that kind of stuff.

But I feel like these dinner detective series.

that they do in these hotels seem pretty elaborate.

It seems like it would

Conrad

be a

Pete Chwaba

tough thing to organize.

Conrad

Oh, yeah, I totally agree.

But it looks so much fun.

Pete Chwaba

I agree.

And I've always meant to do one.

I just never, I kind of forget about it.

And I'm like, oh, yeah, that sounds like a blast.

So maybe Chris can twist our arm or not that he needs

Conrad

to.

Road trip.

Pete Chwaba

Road trip over to the Hyatt.

That's where they do them

Conrad

right down the street here.

I think

Pete Chwaba

so.

Yeah,

Conrad

that's road trip.

Pete Chwaba

Yeah.

And our friend, Kayla.

What's Kaila's?

Kaila Miller, who was our Washington Street model one night for a nightly window.

She takes, she does some acting too.

She does that too.

So we'll get to the bottom of it with Chris at 635.

He will be here in person and that will be fun.

So folks, wherever you're joining us from in the beautiful state of Wisconsin or parts beyond, welcome.

It's great to have you and the week is over.

You made it.

We're not quite there yet.

We have to entertain you for a couple hours, and then we'll be off the hook as well.

But I hope you had a great week.

And if you didn't, all the more reason you're here.

We got some fun conversations tonight.

Two good guests.

The World Series starts tonight.

That's kind of

Conrad

exciting.

Pete Chwaba

I mean, I know the Brewers.

Conrad

Yeah, that's all right.

Basketball's on, so we'll watch that.

SPEAKER_??

Wow.

Pete Chwaba

God, I gotta be honest, dude.

I mean, I like sports, but early, regular season NBA.

No, thanks.

Conrad

You get to see what you're looking at for the teams, you know Really preview and I mean the first the first game of the year went into double overtime and looked like it was the Western Conference finals how they played Could be a preview

Pete Chwaba

Who was it?

Conrad

It was the Thunder.

Pete Chwaba

Okay,

Conrad

and the Rockets

Pete Chwaba

I Got one word for you snooze.

No, I'm kidding.

Conrad

I

Pete Chwaba

look look at this

My opinion on that changed kind of in the last 10 years I used to I could watch an NBA game NBA game any day of the week and I'd put it on just to have it on while I'm working or whatever But all of a sudden I'm all about unless it's the NFL 16 17 games.

That's all it is, baby one a week.

I'm there.

I cannot Follow baseball or basketball all season wake me up when the playoffs start.

Conrad

I just can't do it Yeah, basketball is my favorite sport.

So

Pete Chwaba

So having said that would you rather I asked you this a couple weeks ago And you said the Brewers were your favorite you they were your favorite team to win a championship because the box had done that and the Packers have done it a couple times, but like what?

Overall, would it be the Bucks?

Oh, I

Conrad

don't I don't even like the Bucks

Pete Chwaba

You still like ears or is it who is it?

Conrad

It's actually like the Rockets now.

Pete Chwaba

Now you like the rock That's a convenient fandom you have

Conrad

there.

Pete Chwaba

Yeah

is Kevin Durant on the Rockets.

Conrad

Yes,

Pete Chwaba

yes, he is.

That's OK.

That's not like being a fair weather fan, though, because you're I understand totally cheering for a person.

Well,

Conrad

you know, I mean, last year the the Suns were not good at all.

And I still was a fan, so.

Pete Chwaba

All right.

But I get following a player that makes it there's a little drama.

Conrad

It's the only sport I do it in.

Pete Chwaba

Really?

Conrad

But it's my favorite sport.

Pete Chwaba

There's only five of those dudes out there.

No, any given time,

Conrad

so you're

Pete Chwaba

sharing for 20% of the team, really.

So let's do this, Conn, because I think we have kind of a fun question time.

Let's get to the nightlight question of the night.

Conrad

Let's talk about the question.

Pete Chwaba

OK, question.

Conrad

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Pete Chwaba

Question.

Conrad

OK, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Pete Chwaba

Domanda.

Question.

Conrad

Question.

Questions.

Pete Chwaba

All right, it's National Food Day.

So we have a food related question.

What is the best after-bar food?

What is the best after-bar food in honor of national food day?

855-7524-842-8557, civic you can also text us on the app or if you're watching the radio on the stream like people often do you can drop us a stream comment either way I kind of

It's interesting because my mind goes typically to like three different things.

So I'm looking for some outside the box answers here.

Like Amanda Nimmer earlier said Taco Bell.

I feel like

Conrad

we have a lot of Taco Bell answers.

I've had a bunch of Taco Bell after the bar.

Pete Chwaba

But I think my favorite, if I had the option where I live in Marinette, Wisconsin, you don't have, you know, you don't have a lot of options.

It's basically fast food.

And they close around the time the bars do.

So you got to cut out early before last call if you want grub.

But I've been in cities where you have better options.

Like in LA there were sometimes food trucks, taco trucks were still open all night.

Oh my god.

Street tacos or something like that.

Sign me up.

There's a place in Milwaukee right down the street from the Comedy Cafe on Brady Street called the Taldos.

I think it's still there.

They used to serve Italian food till five o'clock in the morning.

It's like an old mob hangout.

So I guess I would say probably just by default tacos, whether it's Taco Bell, a food truck somewhere, there's something about tacos.

They're just fun to pound after a night of boozing, you know?

Conrad

I've had my fair share of tacos after the bar.

I have a funny story actually.

I was with one of my friends and we went to one of the bars down here in Green Bay.

They had a food truck across the street, and it was a taco truck.

And me, I'm just like, I'll just have some regular, like, I think I got some pork, you know, tacos and just some onions on it and a little bit of salsa.

My friend asked for hot, like it hot, you know?

And he goes, are you sure?

It's like, it's pretty hot.

Pete Chwaba

Yeah.

Conrad

He goes, yeah, no, I love hot.

We get back to my house.

I look over at him.

He's crying.

His eyes are so watery.

Is that like ghost peppers in it or something?

And he was he was pretty drunk too.

So he was like watering.

I regret this.

And then after he ate that, he's like, I'm going to bed.

Pete Chwaba

The best is eating food after the bars is great.

The best is almost watching people who are sloppy drunk.

Cause it's so, like they'd be so embarrassed if they knew, but there's so many great stories of people chowing after bar time.

I remember my brother and his friends, I was staying with them in Madison and he had a bunch of friends visiting.

He's a little younger than me.

I was there doing standup.

So I was hanging out with these guys and one of their friends put a pizza in at like two AM when they got home and they all passed out and the oven was on all night and the piece, the pizza was like basically a piece of charcoal.

at like 8 in the morning.

The place was sweltering because the oven was on.

And I can't remember who the guy's name was.

It was like, Pinnaker.

And he's like, one of the guys gets up and goes, hey, Pinnaker, your pizza's done.

I was in there for like seven hours.

Like, that's the danger too when you eat after, you know, you got the calories for one.

Conrad

Oh, yes.

Well, you already had your calories in what you were drinking.

Alcohol.

Yeah, exactly.

And now you're adding on to it with dough.

Sauce

Pete Chwaba

the worst stuff you could oh pizza.

There you go.

Pizza's

Conrad

another good one.

That's mine is I can house a pizza It doesn't matter what form it is like if I get something, you know from Domino's or something or just a frozen pizza, you know, right?

I will dominate that pizza.

Pete Chwaba

There are people like my friend Rob I will not use last names We went to visit our other friend in Steven's point where he went to school and we were hanging out at the bars and Rob had money like he's a dentist now

His dad was a doctor.

He was never missing a meal or didn't have clothes on his back.

He got more excitement out of waiting for the people at Rocky Rococo to throw away the barely expired pizza, and he would just take it out of the dumpster and eat it.

It was like a pride thing.

Was he drunk?

Oh, yeah.

Conrad

Well, I

Pete Chwaba

mean, not falling over drunk.

He just, it's like the guy that would rather look for golf balls than spend money on them.

You know, it's

Conrad

just kind of a

Pete Chwaba

bargain.

Conrad

Yeah.

So.

So yeah, my answer is definitely pita and yours is any I guess any form of tacos for you, too I like tacos I

Pete Chwaba

like taco, but I could eat them all after I'm having a drinks in a while like that and it's been years since I've like You know left the bar and went right to get something to eat like that but like

There's something about the food that just tastes so good, then.

Show Narrator

And you don't have

Pete Chwaba

a pizza plate.

It's hard to find pizza at that hour.

It used to be Rocky Rococos was open after bar time throughout Wisconsin.

There's still a few left.

There's one in Stevens Point, actually, because my daughter goes there, and we've seen it.

But it's hard to find a variety

Conrad

of food at that hour.

I'll say a close second for me is just a nice burger, too.

One time, I ordered, I Ubered back to my house after.

After the bar and I ordered the the famous seven pack.

I think it is of George Webb's burgers.

Pete Chwaba

Oh, really?

Conrad

And when I ordered it, I fell asleep right after.

Pete Chwaba

You didn't even eat him.

Conrad

My roommate comes upstairs with the bag and he's like, it's like 11.

He's like, did you order some food last night?

I

Pete Chwaba

did.

I know two people who have ordered food and paid and driven off.

because they're so drunk they don't I mean they shouldn't be driving to begin with

Conrad

but

Pete Chwaba

they pay and then they just leave my buddy Dan who drives by this window every once in a while he didn't have a car so he only opened with the drive-through so he stood between two cars in line and

Conrad

he just went up and he ordered and he's like

Pete Chwaba

waiting by

Conrad

the window that's awesome

Pete Chwaba

that's great I mean there's so many great after-bar stories like that but I would say and

You know, one of my favorites when I lived in Chicago was White Castles.

I mean, talk about great after-bar food, these sliders with onions and cheese, and like, it's probably not even really meat.

Conrad

I've never actually been to one.

Oh, it's

Pete Chwaba

so worth it.

We had one time we were going to one of our friends was vomiting out the back window, and my friend who was driving didn't even pull over.

It's like, hold on to him.

Like, why don't you pull over?

Hold on to him.

He goes, yeah, hold on to him.

We're not, because we were going to White Castles.

All

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down

Pete Chwaba

Addison in Chicago, he's vomiting.

All right.

Our question, folks, and it's a good one.

What is the best after-bar food?

Let us know.

It's Peach Wabba Nightlight.

We're coming back with your text, and I'm going to tell you a movie you should see coming up

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next.

Conrad (co-host)

Keep on the sunny side, always on the sunny side.

Keep on the sunny side of life.

It will help us every day.

It will brighten all the

Pete Schwabba (host)

way.

Oh, man.

I'm going to do my best to read this.

It is National Food Day.

What is the best after-bar food, folks?

That is the nightlight question of the night.

Let us know.

I say tacos, conreds, and pizza.

And we were talking about white castles too.

White castles is just outstanding after bar food.

And you want to know funny, what I was telling you right before the break, that friend of mine who vomited hanging out the window, driving through the city, still ate white castles.

He rallied.

As you should.

He was just making room.

So, all right, you said pizza.

I need, can you put bigger font?

I forgot my glasses tonight.

This is embarrassing.

I kind of like, I like the way I look without glasses though.

What are your glasses?

You think I could, would those work for me?

Definitely not.

Chris Mays (guest)

My eyes are terrible.

Pete Schwabba (host)

So folks, I want to tell you about a really cool event happening in Madison right now.

It's the Wisconsin Book Festival and it is happening now.

It started yesterday.

It goes through the 26th.

Bringing together authors and readers of all ages, interests, genres, you name it.

Don't miss out on the New York Times bestsellers Jane Hamilton or Mary Roach.

And there will be dozens of others there.

As well as they gather for readings and conversations and all kinds of fun book talk.

Great stuff happening.

And you can find out more information at civicmedia.us.

It's all there right there on the website.

You know what else is on the website, Conrad?

What's that?

all of the cataloged nightlight shows and daily shows.

So if you miss the show, check out the podcast at civicmedia.us.

And all right, now I'm going to tell you guys about a movie.

I saw this film in 2017 at the Wisconsin Film Festival.

And I just, I read about it in the guide.

I had nothing to do.

I was done with my duties there for the day of doing Q&As and introducing films and stuff.

And I went to see it, and it was one of the most badass movies I've ever seen.

And it's called Revenge.

And it's about a woman who goes away with her husband for like a romantic getaway.

And these two guys show up, her husband's friends who are very unsavory characters, and they sort of, well, they assault her while he's out.

And they're going after her.

She runs, and the husband comes back.

And as it turns out, he's on their side, and they're chasing her.

She falls off a cliff.

This is almost going to sound unbelievable.

She falls off a cliff, like 20, 30 feet maybe, and a rock goes right through her midsection.

And they just leave her for dead, assuming she's dead.

Well, she's not.

And the movie is called Revenge.

And if you want to see absolute bad assery at its best,

Check it out.

I think it's available on a streaming platform.

I'm probably gonna watch it again this weekend because it was that cool Revenge check it out.

All right, as you know Or maybe you don't know what is it baloney day?

It's national baloney day, right?

Chris Mays (guest)

Yeah, I was I was else I didn't know what it was and just send me a lot of baloney stuff I was like, maybe just your reminiscent

Pete Schwabba (host)

That is not my after-bar food.

But we did put together a little, do we have time to play our bologna montage?

All right, so bologna, I don't know how you guys feel about bologna.

As you know, you can always text in or call on whatever we're talking about.

Let us know your thoughts.

You got the question of the night, favorite after-bar food.

And now, if you want to weigh in on bologna, that's fine.

I ate it as a kid.

I don't care for it now.

I think it's a funny word.

I think it's a funny meat, if it is meat.

And we put together a little montage of bologna.

Caller - unknown

My baloney has a first name.

It's O-S-C-A-R.

My baloney

Pete Schwabba (host)

has

Caller - unknown

a second name.

It's M-A-Y-E-R.

Oh, I love to read it every day.

And if you ask me why, I'll say.

Because Oscar Mayer has a way with biology and A. How's that?

Conrad (co-host)

My baloney has a first name, it's a joe m-e-r.

My baloney has a second name, it's a joe m-e-r.

Theo (caller)

Hey, you got Pac-Man?

No.

Uh, you got Space Invaders?

Nope.

You got asteroids?

No, but my dad does.

Can't even sit on the toilet some days.

So, so what do you do here, Theo?

Well, I got a stack of Newtie books this high.

Oh, she's beautiful.

Would you want to sell any of them to me?

No, I cherish these things.

I use them a lot.

How do you use a magazine?

I was getting to that.

See, the guy taught me something really neat last year.

Did you ever bop your bowl on me?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Where's the Gaffigan

Chris Mays (guest)

one?

I don't think you sent me that one.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah, I did.

All right.

Well, there's our Bologna montage.

Yeah, Gaffigan's... Oh, there's Norm McDonald.

Where's the Gaffigan?

Gaffigan says this whole thing about Bologna.

I can't believe that made the montage, ladies and gentlemen.

We'll find it.

It's a very funny bit, but let us know where you stand on Bologna.

Are you a Bologna fan?

Chris Mays (guest)

No.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Were you ever I

Chris Mays (guest)

don't I don't recall being like Mom, please get some bologna.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I'm begging you mom layman Rob on social media says pizza and cheese curds together

Chris Mays (guest)

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba (host)

I mean

Chris Mays (guest)

why not toss it on there

Pete Schwabba (host)

absolutely Janet from social media says well it was the burritos at Taco Grande is that a green Bay place Taco Grande

She says, some of your audience might remember it and the Belcher.

We frequented from 79 to 81.

Best burritos in town.

It was State Street.

Oh, it was out in Madison.

Okay, they moved to Francis Street until it closed.

I'm sorry, Janet.

It sounds like a delightful place.

All right, keep those answers coming, folks.

We will get to some more of your texts.

When we come back after the news, we're going to talk dinner detectives.

It's going to be great.

Chris Mays is here.

He's in studio and you got to hear this and you got to try it because it sounds like a lot of fun.

That's coming up next on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pete Wabba (host)

Our question tonight is what is the best after-bar food?

Our pal Nick Wallander from Comedy City, right?

Depeer?

Comedy City Depeer.

Yeah.

Nick's great.

We got to get Nick back in here with those guys.

They're always fun to have.

Yeah, do those little improv games.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Let's do that.

But Nick says, a grilled cheese sandwich clumsily made in your kitchen while you're trying to wait for anybody up.

That's a great... Oh, and Dave on the stream says, Euro and fries.

Absolutely.

I've been so... There have been times I've craved a Euro so much.

I've gone to Arby's.

I think they're the right sauce.

But sometimes you just got to have that salty meat after the bars.

Keep those texts coming, folks.

We'll catch up in just a bit.

All right, I am excited to have my next guest in studio.

I don't often have a lot of in-studio guests from north of Green Bay because that's where I live.

But I do tonight.

This next gentleman joins me in the studio here for the first time, but not this first time on the show.

He is the creator of clearly confused productions.

I'm sorry.

And he runs great productions as the dinner detective shows.

I'm in trouble talking here.

Mr. Chris Mays, hey buddy.

Hey, nice to see you, Pete.

Nice to see you too.

I'm glad we finally made this work.

You're a busy guy.

You're all over the place.

Yeah.

Yeah, so it's good to have you here.

For sure.

Do you have a favorite after bar food?

Well, I heard somebody

Chris Mays (guest)

mentioned pizza.

So you

Pete Wabba (host)

can't go wrong with that.

Can't go

Chris Mays (guest)

wrong.

You know, I'm one thing I'm when I think of late nights and I think of bars, I think of chicken wings.

Pete Wabba (host)

Oh, there you

Chris Mays (guest)

go.

Pete Wabba (host)

That's a good one.

Yeah, that

Chris Mays (guest)

one.

Oh, yeah, some garlic parm wings.

Pete Wabba (host)

Yeah, that's what I

Chris Mays (guest)

think.

Yeah, that to me is is deliciously late night.

Pete Wabba (host)

Do you have a favorite food in general?

I'm asking a guy who lives in Pestigo.

We are not.

Exactly.

The culinary capital of the world is not in Marinette Pestigal.

But do you have a favorite restaurant there or a favorite?

Don't tell me you own a restaurant there.

No, no, I

Chris Mays (guest)

don't.

I mean, late night, yeah, you're pretty much looking quick trip, right?

Or

Pete Wabba (host)

maybe Culver's.

Oh,

Chris Mays (guest)

quick trip's not bad.

Pete Wabba (host)

No,

Chris Mays (guest)

absolutely.

Pete Wabba (host)

Get yourself a chicken

Chris Mays (guest)

sandwich.

Yeah, I do a lot of traveling with my work with the dinner detective.

So I mean, you know, I go into all these towns and cities and stuff.

And late night, yeah, I mean, in some of these places like quick trip, nobody beats quick trip.

Listen,

Pete Wabba (host)

you know what would be better?

and I'm picking because I do like quicktrip, but they always go in there and they have cheese curds, and I don't want cheese curds at 11 o'clock at night.

I want the potato, those little potato cheesy things they make.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they're in the same box as the cheese curds, and I go in, I'm like, oh, they have them, and I get up there and it's cheese curds, which are fine, but I, you know.

Yeah.

Probably

Chris Mays (guest)

because the cheese curds last longer, you know.

Pete Wabba (host)

I'm sure.

Chris Mays (guest)

Which, I don't know if that's good or bad.

probably bad

Pete Wabba (host)

yeah exactly but you know I don't know if they take requests either like if I put my order in would they make me I

Chris Mays (guest)

don't know but there's always seems to be somebody in the kitchen

Pete Wabba (host)

You

Chris Mays (guest)

know, even late at night, I've gone in there and they're in there and they're doing their concocting things.

So

Pete Wabba (host)

it's fine cuisine.

It's the best gas station cuisine.

Certainly.

Chris Mays (guest)

Absolutely beats.

Wah wah.

All these places.

What are your thoughts on baloney, Chris?

I used to eat a lot of baloney when I was a kid.

Yeah.

And yeah, I heard you talking about that, too.

I have not had a baloney sandwich, though.

And I cannot tell you how long it has been.

But, you know, hey.

It has it has a first name, right?

Well, I see

Pete Wabba (host)

in that

Chris Mays (guest)

whole deal.

I mean, it's got a it's got status, you know, everybody should have some bologna at some point.

It's like the

Pete Wabba (host)

meat of yesteryear or days gone by because you're right.

I used to eat it too.

I don't think I could if I had a gun in my head, I'd have to do some serious thinking about eating a bologna sandwich.

They're both going to kill you.

Yeah, eventually.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anyway, well, it's good to have you here give us a little background before we get into dinner detective Which I'm very excited to talk about and clearly confused your company tell us a little background about yourself

Chris Mays (guest)

Well, I'm originally not from Wisconsin.

I'm from Las Vegas, Nevada

Heard

Pete Wabba (host)

of

Chris Mays (guest)

it?

Yeah, born and raised.

And, you know, I kind of lived just the average life of a kid there and played sports.

You know, there is a city there and people do grow up there, right?

So.

But because this was entertainment, I got to see a lot of shows.

You know, I was exposed to that sort of thing, but I never really got into this line of work till I left.

I went to college in a place called Cedar City, Utah.

So I went from three quarters of a million people to about 13,000 overnight.

And I went there to play division one baseball and

Pete Wabba (host)

I was gonna be a

Chris Mays (guest)

baseball coach and I was gonna teach history and I said I had my whole plan, you know laid out and then I took an acting class as a as a elective and That led to hey you should audition for the student directed one acts for the directing class And then I did that and the guy who taught that class was the founder of Utah Shakespeare Festival

So Utah Shakespeare Festival is one of the top five Shakespeare festivals in the world.

Really?

Just right

Pete Wabba (host)

there in

Chris Mays (guest)

Cedar City.

Wow.

So I met him and I started working through the main stage program at the campus and kind of gradually bled on over and kind of left the education track and went into the theater world.

And eventually, yeah, I mean, by the time I was 19, I was working professionally.

I was doing Shakespeare, you know, standing on stage holding spears and carrying notes, getting paid for

Pete Wabba (host)

it.

Wow, nice.

I didn't have to

Chris Mays (guest)

work at the quick trip or we had Maverick in Cedar City.

And yeah, so it just kind of went from there, Pete, you know, so this is going to be year 30.

Yeah,

Pete Wabba (host)

and so

Chris Mays (guest)

and over time you just as you know to being in this line You diversify so you everybody kind of starts off as a performer or something like that and then I I started directing I actually started producing before I even left college So that's

Pete Wabba (host)

where I

Chris Mays (guest)

got my feet wet there.

I was designing I was you know, so I've done pretty much anything you could think of in this business And got really heavy into probably I would say the about

24 25 years ago when it came to producing and administration and operating and and and and did that for different theater companies and I worked for a group called Merlin entertainment Merlin entertainment Who controls Lego brand the Mall of America aquarium the London eye, you know had stuff all over the world

Pete Wabba (host)

So I

Chris Mays (guest)

got to actually work in entertainment on a global scale too

So it's been quite the journey that brought me to where I am now, sitting with you here

Pete Wabba (host)

in B.A.

Northeast Wisconsin, baby.

So let me ask you this, because I think everybody knows Vegas, and there's big shows, and there's residencies, and all this stuff.

What's the culture like growing up there for a kid who wants to do theater in high school?

Is there tons of that there?

You think there would be because of what's on the strip and all the casinos that but what's that like there?

You

Chris Mays (guest)

know when I was in high school all the high schools had theater programs in fact I went and watched the plays and everything I actually got my feet wet my senior year of high school a little bit That's where I kind of I would say caught the bug and got interested which led to the acting class But like all programs you're seeing this throughout schools throughout America

They're taking them the theater programs away terrible and You know Vegas though, I would say overall still probably I couldn't tell you for specific But I would say I would hope and think at least half the high school still have full-time programs

Pete Wabba (host)

There's

Chris Mays (guest)

a performing arts school there the Las Vegas Academy, which is pretty prominent And it's turned out a couple of guys from the band the killers went there.

I

Pete Wabba (host)

think a

Chris Mays (guest)

con who's a Singer there's been people that have come out of that.

I'm not on professionally and of course went into

professional work on other levels, Broadway, or dancing in some companies, and stuff like that.

So there is an arts culture there in Las Vegas, and I think it is fueled by all that entertainment.

Even myself, I went back and performed in my hometown.

I did a couple different shows, but not when I originally lived there.

I went back,

Pete Wabba (host)

spent about

Chris Mays (guest)

10 years, and did a couple different shows myself over that time, so I actually got to perform on the strips.

Pete Wabba (host)

Chris Maze is my guest.

He is the producer of Dinner Detective.

We're gonna talk about that in a bit, and his company is clearly confused.

love the name.

We're talking about, he's giving us some background about growing up in Vegas.

He is now a proud resident of Peshtigo, Wisconsin.

Just six short miles from Marinette, maybe five, depending on what part of town you live in.

You mentioned performing arts high schools.

You have a performing arts school.

Impestigo and I will say one of my hesitations about moving back here to Northeast, Wisconsin or more specifically, Marinette because there's a lot of culture around here, but I thought, you know, sports is heavy, which is great.

I like sports.

You really do learn the same lessons when you're part of a band or theater or, you know, these are great programs that should not be cut under any circumstances.

But that's a different discussion.

But I'm amazed that you started this school Impestigo.

My daughter.

I didn't know you at the time anyway, but my daughter took the answer from your wife.

And now you said, the school's booming.

You have a performing art school.

If you give these programs to kids, they will show up.

Absolutely.

A lot of places just don't have them.

It's not that they don't want them or wouldn't participate.

So I applaud you for that.

That's really spectacular what you're

Chris Mays (guest)

doing.

And I really give a lot of credit to my wife, Meg.

arts administrator and dancer, and she started it 10 years ago.

on her own before she met me too.

And launched it and started off with a handful of students and now has grown it into, you know, I think this year is 120 plus dance, just on the dance side.

I have about 20 kids that I do theater with.

I have a

Pete Wabba (host)

couple

Chris Mays (guest)

theater classes.

But yeah, it's amazing.

I think if you give, it's exactly that.

Give them the tools, give them the opportunity, open the doors for them.

They will go through the door, you know, and in areas like that too, they don't get exposed to a lot of

Art certainly not performing arts

Pete Wabba (host)

right

Chris Mays (guest)

and so that's one of the interesting challenges I found because I've done a lot of teaching over time too I did end up doing education even though I went into you know the theater and stuff But it's really interesting in that area because you know, I even I was kind of amazed by you know Wow, these you know They don't really have a lot of access to even coming down.

Let's say Appleton over to the Performing Arts Center and seeing a touring show or

stuff like that.

So we try to give them that by both teaching the process of the of the work and then also giving them product.

Pete Wabba (host)

That's part of the issue too though is you guys are there.

there's someone there to teach it, you know, and that's a big part of it too.

What got you, you're from Vegas, you assume didn't have any connection to Peshcoe when you moved there, except for maybe Meg, is that how you got there?

And is she a resident or a native?

Chris Mays (guest)

Well, she was born in Sturgeon Bay.

Then her family moved to Peshcoe when she was young.

And she grew up there and she took dance in the area and was a resident of the area.

And then she went off to Chicago and applied her trade there for many years, then came back home and started the studio.

And we met because we were both teaching at a performing arts school in Fargo.

Well, it was in Fargo Moorhead.

So it's basically North Dakota and Minnesota.

Pete Wabba (host)

I did stand up there in the 90s.

Yeah, it's an area, you know,

Chris Mays (guest)

and it's amazing how much art's going on there, you know.

And again, where is the art happening?

And that's where we met.

She was teaching dance and I came in to teach some acting and some stage combat.

Pete Wabba (host)

Yeah.

And

Chris Mays (guest)

that's how we met, you know, we became friends and then our friendship cultivated over time into a relationship.

And that's what

Pete Wabba (host)

brought me up here.

So what's Pashto go like for you?

Did you move, you know,

You know, Vegas is a pretty big city, obviously, and there's a lot going on there.

But how is Pesha go for you on a daily basis?

Because I admit, living in Marinette, I am bored to tears.

But I love it.

It's a very easy place to live.

It's not expensive.

The people are nice and it's beautiful.

I do crawl out of my skin sometimes, but I can go to the city or I can go do stuff.

But where are you at with that?

Yeah, I think

Chris Mays (guest)

that's kind of why I live.

It's the same concept.

I mean, I've lived in cities as large.

I've spent time working out of New York.

Vegas Seattle and graduate school my first year.

I was in a village I lived in a town of 89 people that

Pete Wabba (host)

I

Chris Mays (guest)

then you know drove into where I went to the university So I've had this range of kind of places I've lived so it's not as shocking to me to be in a place like Peshtigo as some people thought when I moved there because I had actually gone back to Vegas for an additional time to perform prior to moving out to Peshtigo and soon as I got to Peshtigo everybody was like

Are you?

How's how you

Pete Wabba (host)

doing?

You know, it's like it's almost

Chris Mays (guest)

like you're a like a shock victim of some

Pete Wabba (host)

kind.

It's

Chris Mays (guest)

like, are you okay?

You know, how are you?

How are you handling it?

And I'm like, it's great to me.

You

Pete Wabba (host)

know,

Chris Mays (guest)

I have no sometimes.

Yes.

It's not even so much the boredom.

It's the ability to, you know, be able to run in and

do something in a city, you

Pete Wabba (host)

know, kind of thing.

But

Chris Mays (guest)

I mean, Green Bay's accessible, and we take, we went to Europe this summer for a couple weeks, and we, you know, we always find ways to go cosmopolitan,

Pete Wabba (host)

so

Chris Mays (guest)

we find that balance.

Pete Wabba (host)

That's great.

My guess is Chris Mays will have more with Chris after a very short break.

Our question of the night is, what is your favorite after-bar food, folks?

And you can weigh in.

What do you think about Bologna?

Not for after-bar food, definitely not.

That's a recipe for disasters.

All right, we're coming back.

This is Nightlight with Peach Wabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Chris Mays (guest)

Welcome

Peach Waba (host)

back.

This is Nightlight with Peach Waba Broadcasting statewide.

Great to have you with me tonight as we

Do the show from beautiful downtown Green Bay on a gorgeous fall night here in Wisconsin.

Dave on the stream also says Amigos Super Burrito.

We call it the dead baby.

No, that's horrible.

Chris Mays (guest)

Well, you know,

Peach Waba (host)

I expect nothing less out of Dave.

I think I'm learning Dave's sense of humor over these over these months.

Love it, Dave.

Love it.

Yeah.

Ryan in Madison in the 608 says after bar breakfast pancakes or breakfast burrito.

Yeah, that's the first time we've heard pancakes.

Yeah.

Steve from Florida, that's Conrad's dad, says the best way to eat ring baloney.

It makes me think of like ring worm or something.

Steve says the best way to eat ring baloney is on a stick roasting over a hot fire.

Put it on a toasted buttered brat bun and you'll create sandwich brilliance.

Well, I haven't locked up with your dad on a lot of stuff, but it stops

Conrad

at below.

Yeah, I don't agree, dad.

Peach Waba (host)

And then the 608 John says, it's crazy when you clean off the coffee table in the morning and realize you ate 16 sliders again.

Oh.

Absolutely.

I've been there.

It is terrible.

My guest right now, folks, is Chris Mays.

He drove down here for Pesh to go just to be in the studio.

I love it.

He lives very close to where I live in Marinette.

You were talking about mob hotels in Vegas during the break.

When my wife and I moved to LA in the mid 90s, we got to stay at the, I've read all these mob books.

So I was kind of fascinated by the Stardust Hotel.

I love the

Conrad

name

Peach Waba (host)

and I love the history behind the Chicago mob.

And we got to stay there.

And I think they tore it down like a year later or something.

So a little bit of history.

Chris Mays (guest)

Yeah.

Well, it used to be that each one of those casinos were all individually owned.

Yeah, right.

So because they were individually owned, they were operated individually.

Yeah.

And so usually there was some kind of, you know, I don't want to, I mean, it doesn't really exist, right?

Conrad

We don't

Chris Mays (guest)

talk about it, but, you know, they were affiliate, you know, they did, they did things through there and had really built it up, built it up, goes back to Bugsy Siegel

Peach Waba (host)

and

Chris Mays (guest)

that whole kind of aura of him being there and helping launch it.

But I mean, he goes way back.

Peach Waba (host)

And Chris, what was it?

Like in the movie Bugsy with Warren Beatty, he

He tries to sell the New York mob on building this oasis in the desert, but there was something there.

Was it a trading poster?

It was a couple gas stations or something?

Well,

Chris Mays (guest)

originally it was a way station between Salt Lake and Los Angeles.

And so then in the LDS church, when their people

Peach Waba (host)

were

Chris Mays (guest)

coming through, they actually kind of established that.

So one of the buildings, it's still one of the few real historical buildings that stands, there's an old Mormon mission.

Hmm, which is basically this adobe building.

This is kind of standing in this desert area that

Peach Waba (host)

is still

Chris Mays (guest)

there.

Oh, yeah, and Yeah, so it was kind of a way station then it became this yeah light entertainment You know in fact Judy Garland performed their way back in the day as a member of the gum sisters.

Hmm because she was one of them Yeah, so I mean it's it's like I said it and then bugsy of course launched the flamingo.

That's what he was

Peach Waba (host)

right.

Chris Mays (guest)

It was the flamingo.

Yeah, yeah

been

Peach Waba (host)

thinking

Chris Mays (guest)

about them a lot lately because of this whole other gambling thing that's been going on.

in the news and stuff.

With the mob,

Peach Waba (host)

with the, oh my God.

Chris Mays (guest)

It's, you

Peach Waba (host)

know, I'm out of the mob.

They let me, they let me walk away.

Chris Mays (guest)

I

Peach Waba (host)

do love that whenever I would go, we just had Jimmy Pardo on the other night and he and I went and worked at Casino probably 20 years ago or whatever about just outside of Vegas.

I was reminded, like we went in there at midnight and we just after the show, we just did stand up and then we went and gambled.

And like,

Eight hours went by like that.

They pumped that pure oxygen in there, and there's no windows, and there's no clocks, and

Conrad

you

Peach Waba (host)

just, and we were having a blast.

but we left and it was sunny and it's like how the hell long were we in there like they had a good scam going you know the hell of a feeling when you walk

Chris Mays (guest)

out after you know i've done that been up all night

Peach Waba (host)

every

Chris Mays (guest)

time you go eat late night breakfast the person who brought the breakfast absolutely then you walk out yeah i'm blinding sunlight and if it's summertime it's already a hundred degrees yeah

Peach Waba (host)

oh man you know that's insane yeah it's so much fun though um

Alright, so I want to get into the dinner detective.

Can we keep you through the news?

Oh, yeah, so let's let's do that We'll do that after the news because I don't want to rush through

Conrad

it

Peach Waba (host)

But tell us about this play you're doing and tish mills.

I don't know tish mills you I heard it the other day and then you just told me about tish mills and Sweeney Todd happening.

I need

Chris Mays (guest)

Todd Yeah, not a very big city.

No, I I heard about it from a friend who's associated with dinner detective Okay, and she told me a little bit about it and I started following them on social media and things and I went Wow, it's amazing.

What is this tish mills?

Yeah

It's not even a town.

It's like this.

Unestablished village of people basically and but it's called the forced in arts collective And what's amazing the the gentleman Michael sheiks out there?

He has created something that's that I I appreciate because it's not just theater You know a lot of times theaters will associate themselves around a certain genre style like musical and things like that Yes, we do that when he taught as a musical But he's willing to do all types of theater all styles of theater genres and so it's pretty impressive in the middle of

Almost, I hate saying nowhere.

Yeah.

But yeah, people

Peach Waba (host)

might get offended.

But I mean, look, if you're not, if there's nothing there, there's nothing there.

But it's cool that they have a theater.

It's an oasis.

We just mentioned

Chris Mays (guest)

oasis earlier.

Yeah, that's exactly what is this little oasis of art.

Peach Waba (host)

What's your favorite kind of theater to do, typically, Chris, or over the course of your theater career?

Like, did you have a genre you liked?

You liked the musicals or the comedy and the dramas?

Yeah, see,

Chris Mays (guest)

that's always a common question.

I enjoyed.

I find the enjoyment all of them because they all bring challenges.

Peach Waba (host)

Yeah, that's

Chris Mays (guest)

what I like, you know when I think when you're younger you have this kind of lineup of things you'd like to do I was very fortunate where I feel like I got to do a lot of those including Sweeney Todd at one point now I'm doing it again for the second time many many years later, so I'm revisiting the role, but I you know, I love absurdism

You know like a Samuel Beckett or an Ian Esco, which people are listening like You know like I find that to be interesting, you know and a great challenge I love the language of Shakespeare, but I always love a good comedy too, you know anything that makes people laugh a farce

Conrad

Yeah,

Chris Mays (guest)

instead of farce not too long ago.

We were talking about that and just you know It's nothing better than when you're up there entertaining people and they're just having a great time Yeah, that's what it really comes down.

Peach Waba (host)

You cannot beat a live audience.

That's why this is the perfect time to spring this on you count, right?

I think I'd like to start having a live audience in here.

Conrad

Can you get on that and see what you can come up with?

Maybe before the show, we'll just corral people in here for the street.

Bring

Peach Waba (host)

them in.

Offer them free drinks.

Conrad

Exactly.

We'll figure it out.

Peach Waba (host)

Act 2 is coming up next.

Intermission is upon us, folks.

Chris Mays is going to stick around for a few more minutes.

When we come back, we're going to talk to the dinner detective.

You got it.

This is so great.

And we're going to read some texts and all kinds of fun.

And it's a barman Friday night.

Rocker is here tonight filling in for Terry.

Oh man, lots to come.

Don't go anywhere.

It's Nightlight with Peach Waba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Narrator

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who writes checks his mouth can't cash.

Pete Chwaba.

Pete Chwaba (host)

Welcome back, people.

Is it too weird if I say couch potatoes?

I don't think so.

Do you think some people are proud to be actual couch potatoes?

I do.

Or do you think they think I'm taking liberties with there?

Like, I'm calling them TV watchers.

I would be proud of that.

I love color

Conrad (board operator)

television.

I'm proud of it.

Pete Chwaba (host)

All right, very cool.

This is Peach Wabba and Nightlight Conrad working the board.

Chris Mays is here in studio.

We're going to talk some dinner detective.

That is coming up in just a minute.

Our question of the night, folks, is what is your favorite after-bar food?

And we've heard some pretty good, we got to catch up on some texts, but we've had a lot of, breakfast was one.

I was surprised we didn't hear that earlier.

We did hear that late in hour two, but we'll read some of your texts coming up here too.

I gave everybody a great movie recommendation.

It's kind of violent, but it's mostly just like total badass and it's called revenge.

You can stream it if you got a Roku search, check it out.

And I don't, it's a French film.

And I believe there were subtitles, but it is outstanding.

Sometimes I'm in the mood for subtitles and sometimes I'm not.

So we'll do that.

It is a bar band Friday night.

Rocker will be here tonight filling in for Terry Barr.

He is her Max Inc radio co-host on WMDX in Madison.

You can also listen to that great show that's on every Saturday night from six to 9 p.m.

on the app at civicmedia.us.

But Terry is our Wisconsin music expert and Rocker will fill in tonight and he always does a great job.

Jim from Appleton in the 920 says, the best post-bar food was the hungry bull in Monash, Wisconsin.

They had a full menu.

There were omelets.

Their omelets were the best.

Sadly, they closed a few years ago.

Well, luckily, there's never usually a shortage of bar food.

You can always find sliders or fast food or whatever.

Thank you, Jim.

Bridget in the 818 says, pizza was an exclamation point.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Conrad, could be a, could be a.

You guys can get together for some pizza.

Conrad.

You know what I bought at Aldi the other day?

They had this thin crust bacon pizza and it looked like it was like barely had sauce or cheese on it and little bits of bacon all over it and I bought it.

For some sweet savings

Conrad (board operator)

though.

Pete Chwaba (host)

Sweet savings and flavor country.

Let's be honest because it's a beautiful looking pizza and I didn't eat it.

because I'm on kind of this program, which only allows me to have one frozen bacon piece.

Conrad (board operator)

You had to stare at it, then make it feel good about yourself.

I am

Pete Chwaba (host)

taking that thing down this weekend though, no question about that.

Mark from Prairie to Sack, he's in the 608 says, on the pilot of the spy comedy series, Chuck.

Oh yeah, Chuck.

Adam Baldwin in his role of spy John Casey suggested he was thinking of having pancakes after he took care in quotes of Chuck, who had just the.

who just had the intersect loaded in his head and Sarah Walker, the CIA spy that decided to save Chuck.

Fun ensued when the three dad to rush off to defuse a bomb planted by, planted to kill

Conrad (board operator)

a

Pete Chwaba (host)

general, the kicker porn.

helped save that.

I have no idea what.

Wow.

Conrad (board operator)

There is a lot going on.

Speaking of subtitles.

Whoa, Mark.

Yeah, I need some AI maybe.

Help us out with the end of that one, Mark.

Yeah,

Pete Chwaba (host)

Mark.

Conrad (board operator)

It was

Pete Chwaba (host)

good.

It was starting to lose me, and then he said the word porn, and then I kind of rallied there

at the end.

I saw your

eyes

perk up.

Yeah, I saw it.

So help us out, Mark.

We'll clarify

that

text.

All right.

Chris Maze is here.

He is the producer of Dinner Detective.

Let's

get right into this, Chris, because I know you did shows.

The first time I heard about this in downtown Green Bay here, I think you guys were over at the Hyatt.

There is a wonderful young woman here who makes a great salad right down the street at the Fresh Kind.

Her name is Kayla.

Miller.

OK.

Oh, yeah.

And

she is

in my cast.

Yeah.

So I knew about you.

Then it came up in conversation there.

And I'm like, oh, my gosh.

So I would love some time to have, you know, you and a few people, if you

Chris Mays (interviewee)

ever want to do a

Pete Chwaba (host)

demonstration here, I think they'd be really fun.

Chris Mays (interviewee)

Yeah.

We could play a game or something.

Pete Chwaba (host)

Yeah.

Absolutely.

So I've heard a little bit from Kayla and then you and I have talked a little bit about it.

I've never been to one.

Tell people what they can expect when they go to one of these cool dinner detective events.

Chris Mays (interviewee)

So the dinner detective, yeah, it's produced by clearly confused entertainment.

Unfortunately, I did not start the company, but I am involved on the corporate entity.

It was started by a gentleman named Scott O'Brien.

Scott worked in episodic television in Hollywood, and he worked for a very prominent executive producer who did a lot of law and crime type shows.

So he went to a murder mystery in LA.

David Kelly.

Maybe.

Pete Chwaba (host)

Well, you can't say his name.

No,

Chris Mays (interviewee)

I can yeah, David E. Kelly and then so Scott gets tickets through his wife to go see a murder mystery 21 years ago.

Oh, wow They go to this murder mystery in California and Scott's watching and our immersion and interactive theater was very popular then so he's watching this and thinking well We can do something different so he gets these true crime

cases, access to all this stuff, comes up with the first script and they launch it at a restaurant in Southern California becomes this cult classic kind of thing.

Everybody's talking about it.

Starts spreading throughout California.

And then finally, they started taking it nationwide.

So they went to different areas.

It's been it's where you have three in Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay.

We're still at the Hyatt.

We designed for another year there.

Sweet.

Yeah.

And it's a three hour four act.

as I said, interactive experience.

So it's all set in real time, present day.

So it's not anybody dressed up in like suit suits and 20s gangster type.

But so the idea is that guests come in, they know they're going to play a game.

And we tell them that at the beginning because games have different things.

They have tools, they have boards, whatever they have winners and they have

Pete Chwaba (host)

losers.

Chris Mays (interviewee)

No prizes.

SPEAKER_??

Oh.

Chris Mays (interviewee)

Pete that is just that is so terrible of you to call people losers.

I know you are but um Prices are better though.

So you get the sense, right?

So then all of a sudden though this this this other thing happens another this death and That changes the dynamic and suddenly you know anybody in this room could be a killer, right?

Performers and planted there's all these things so that nobody knows who's real and who's not but then so it's ultra realism versus comedy, right?

clown world because you have your detectives.

And so think of your detectives, we call it Saturday Night Law and Order meets Saturday Night Live.

Conrad (board operator)

So they

Chris Mays (interviewee)

become these detectives, right?

Conrad (board operator)

And

Chris Mays (interviewee)

so they do everything from the fifth dimension, right?

They're really trying to solve the crime, but they go about it in very unorthodox ways.

carry themselves in very unique ways.

I mean, they are the law.

Yeah.

Um, you know, uh, so it creates mayhem.

There's a script to it naturally because of the investigation, but also it's a lot of improv.

So one of the stars of the show is actually our guests when they come, what they bring to it, how they interplay with us.

They love that.

Yeah.

So it's always unique.

You know, yeah, there's going to be a eventual end game that becomes, you know, we rotate the scripts about every six months here in Green Bay.

So there's always something fresh for people

Conrad (board operator)

to come back to.

Chris Mays (interviewee)

Do you write it?

Uh, no.

God created all

Conrad (board operator)

this.

That's why I give him the he's the creator.

I

Chris Mays (interviewee)

call him the creator, whether

Conrad (board operator)

he likes

Chris Mays (interviewee)

it or not.

I think he does.

And, uh, and we're always trying to develop new storylines, um, but we can also bend a lot of things within the existing storylines.

So, um, you know, so it has that true crime edge, which is very popular and people can get into that aspect or they can embrace the comedy or they can just sit back and take in the whole experience as it is while they also have a great multi-course meal and that whole

Pete Chwaba (host)

thing.

who dies get their food comped?

Or does that pretend?

Well, if I told you I might have to kill you.

Would it be funny?

Do you think, what are the odds, Chris, that someone in their real life has committed a murder that was part of this night?

Chris Mays (interviewee)

And he's like, oh boy, I hope that could be.

Wasn't there that TV show that was like a law show?

It was like a Judge Judy-esque type show, and the bailiff actually ended up...

Killing his wife in real life.

So you just made you you don't manifest this on to the

Pete Chwaba (host)

dinner names have been changed to

Chris Mays (interviewee)

protect right That's right.

Pete Chwaba (host)

We have a call who's on the phone.

Yeah mark from the sack.

Oh, we need some clarity mark.

How you doing buddy?

I'm

Mark from Prairie du Sac (caller)

doing okay.

Well You're familiar with the short shock you worked in a computer and your computer place.

He's been part of the nerd herd.

Conrad (board operator)

Yeah,

Mark from Prairie du Sac (caller)

and one of the things he had to cure was this Virus was out there

Well, they get to the, they go rushing off to save the general.

They get to the place where it's a computer hooked up to his buttload at C4 underneath there.

The clock is ticking down and, and Chuck goes to, his friend Morgan calls up and had just killed Chuck's computer with downloading this virus.

So Chuck goes in and shuts down the computer by downloading the Irene de Mova.

porn virus into the computer.

I shot it on the right.

When it cooks, it clicks on one, you know, one second left.

So that's how porn saved the day.

Pete Chwaba (host)

Oh, Mark, that's awesome.

And I appreciate you going the extra mile and calling us and telling us that to clarify as I text stuff to Conrad and sometimes and he doesn't even know what I'm saying.

So that was a big help.

Thank you, sir.

Have a great night, brother.

All right, Mark from Prairie

Chris Mays (interviewee)

Dissect.

I guess porn can save the world.

It does a lot of good.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm

Pete Chwaba (host)

just saying, I'm not saying it should be.

Right.

You know, Conrad watches a ton

of it.

I had

to intervene at times, but...

Why looking pizza?

Not during the show, yeah.

From Aldi.

Pizza.

It all comes back together.

Sweet savings.

That's right, sweet.

Sweet something.

Big, big savings.

A little group thing going on.

I don't know.

Emphasis on

big.

Nick from the 608 says, jerk chicken.

Oh, this just keeps getting better and better fried plantains beans and red rice

Mark from Prairie du Sac (caller)

bread

Pete Chwaba (host)

fruit and then a key in Jamaica, of course But here burgers or taco.

Oh boy.

That's a big he sounded so excited when he was texting about the jerk chicken plantains I've done that like when I come home from the bar seriously like I've cooked

Like I'm not hammered or anything years ago, but I'll make like a big thing of pasta with some garlic

Chris Mays (interviewee)

and

Pete Chwaba (host)

like you know or

Chris Mays (interviewee)

Yeah,

Pete Chwaba (host)

like burgers or I'll put chicken on the grill or something

Chris Mays (interviewee)

I found I did that when I lived in Vegas because that there you can go at two in the morning and get a steak or something Yeah, so when you so coming home to cook at like two in the morning doesn't seem so out of yeah, great point Pesh to go.

It's very quiet.

Oh, you're not finding pots and things, you know finding anything the deer are freaking out who am

Pete Chwaba (host)

That's the voice of Chris Mays.

He is the director of dinner detective here in Green Bay You could check that out.

Where can people get some more information Chris?

Chris Mays (interviewee)

They can go to the dinner detective comm slash green

Dash Bay.

Okay, perfect.

And how often do you do them?

It depends.

We do them on select Saturdays.

We also offer private events.

So if you have a business or a civic group or some kind of organization that would like to have us do a performance for you at the Hyatt or we can bring it to you, we did one a couple years back on the roof of Titletown.

Oh, sweet.

Yeah, we've done them in mansions with koi ponds in the middle of the performing space.

So it's very durable, very flexible.

So there's a lot of ways to enjoy the dinner.

Pete Chwaba (host)

And the food?

You're not serving bologna sandwiches

Chris Mays (interviewee)

with this.

Pete Chwaba (host)

This

Chris Mays (interviewee)

is

Pete Chwaba (host)

good stuff.

Appetizer.

They

Chris Mays (interviewee)

get salad, bread.

They get their choice of three different entrees and a fantastic dessert.

Pete Chwaba (host)

I love it.

This has been fun.

Thank you for coming in.

Before we let you go, are you watching anything on TV that you could recommend, like a good binge watch or something?

Chris Mays (interviewee)

You know, I've gone a little retro recently because one show that I did not watch that now I'm starting to get into is Mr. Robot.

Did you ever want that?

with that Rami Malik.

Yeah, I

Pete Chwaba (host)

watched a few

Chris Mays (interviewee)

episodes of

Pete Chwaba (host)

that and it grabbed me and then I thought, I don't know, I went away from it

Chris Mays (interviewee)

for some reason, but it did hook me right away.

I think it's my surreal kind of existential mentality too, you know.

And of course, I also watched The Only Murders in the building on Hulu Love That because

Mark from Prairie du Sac (caller)

anything true

Chris Mays (interviewee)

crime and stuff like that, you know, but I'm definitely in the series more in recent times because I was thinking about that, you know, I did see, I don't know if you saw, did you see the film Sinners?

Pete Chwaba (host)

Oh, yeah, I love that love sinners

Chris Mays (interviewee)

sinners and I just saw

Pete Chwaba (host)

one battle after another a

Chris Mays (interviewee)

couple weeks ago Yeah,

Pete Chwaba (host)

those two are my two favorite.

Mark from Prairie du Sac (caller)

I think I would

Pete Chwaba (host)

give the edge to one battle just because it's like you're

But sinners was me

Chris Mays (interviewee)

and all

Pete Chwaba (host)

aspects the costumes and the

Chris Mays (interviewee)

writing and that was

Pete Chwaba (host)

phenomenal.

Chris Mays (interviewee)

Yeah, this kind of grounded realism, but then fantastical to

Pete Chwaba (host)

real quick.

We got to get out of here.

Do you have a website?

If you already said it, I apologize.

Chris Mays (interviewee)

Well, I'll just I'll just pitch a few different things.

Studio 170.net will tell you all about our performing arts school.

My nonprofit is atlastheater.net.

If you want to learn more and donate because we'll always take donations.

And of course, come on out and see Sweeney Todd out at Fort Steels support the arts here in the community.

and that's for that's forced in dot org.

Pete Chwaba (host)

Outstanding Chris Mays.

Thank you so much, sir.

Chris Mays (interviewee)

Thanks.

Break a leg.

Pete Chwaba (host)

Appreciate it.

All right.

We're coming right back on nightlight to read your texts.

We're coming right back on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pete Schwab

I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight, our question of the night.

What is the best after-bar food?

I would imagine, Con, that since where we live and how popular cocktails, beer, alcohol is in this state, it would be just, we have to be the king of after-bars as well.

After-bar food, I would imagine.

So I was not surprised, this is a popular question.

John from the 608 says,

Peter, are you reading the room?

Conrad sounded a little down.

Conrad

I was sad about the camera, you

Pete Schwab

know, but I got a tour.

That was the beginning of the show.

Yeah, okay.

Well, that's very sweet of you, John.

Looking out for the K-man.

Appreciate that, sir.

Edward in the 414 says, a greasy Chicago-style Italian beef sandwich with peppers on a hoagie, on hoagie bread.

Edward, yeah, the guinella bread.

Edward, it's gotta be guinella bread and dunked.

What if I was in my 20s right now con I would probably Not probably but I've done crazier stuff drive to Chicago and get an Italian beef sandwich and just to say I did it Maybe not from Green Bay.

I would do it from Milwaukee though.

Conrad

Yeah, that's I mean, it's like a three-hour drive to you know, Chicago from here So

Pete Schwab

yeah, it's a healthy drive, but the rewards are Italian beef Tom from New Berlin says after bar food three things grease And something with grease and the third thing is hamburger with grease nice.

What's your point Tom?

That's what we're doing here, right?

Thank you, sir.

Melissa, from Willy Street in the 608 says, any greasy spoon that serves breakfast, oh, to be young again.

I could not agree more.

Melissa, and I've been to George Webb.

I've done that in the middle of the night.

I have done that as well.

So breakfast is becoming more popular here.

Thank you, Melissa.

We have a phone call?

Yes, we do.

Who do we have?

Ali from the North Woods.

It's a food question, Ali.

I was starting to get nervous.

Ali from the North Woods (caller)

You might have known, huh?

Pete Schwab

Yeah.

What's on your mind?

Ali from the North Woods (caller)

I would say the best thing to have would be get an Uber.

If you're drinking, get yourself an Uber and get on

Pete Schwab

through a

Ali from the North Woods (caller)

drive-thru or go home and get a pizza because my parents own the restaurant and inevitably

The drunk would wait until the bar closed and then they would want your their food to be ready Two minutes after they walked in the door and and one night I had I was like in my early 20s um Table probably eight ten people and they were the most obnoxious people there was they were

throwing the dinner rolls and the relish pray because through the through the kitchen door yelling at the cook why is it taking so long and I finally had enough and I Gave them what for my knees were shaken and by the time I was done I was crying and I knew that my dad was gonna fire me when he heard

Pete Schwab

Whoa, you know what Conrad I I want to go there right now and beat people up on Ollie's behalf when someone makes my Ollie cry I take offense to that

Ali from the North Woods (caller)

Well, I've gotten a little thicker skin

Pete Schwab

Yeah, it seems like it

Ali from the North Woods (caller)

but I was really worried that I was gonna get fired But by the time that I gave them all what for there was a huge tip left on their table.

Pete Schwab

Oh nice

Ali from the North Woods (caller)

So if they're listening to the radio, they know who they are.

Pete Schwab

Oh, that is so awesome.

Thank you very much, Ollie.

Have a great night.

Ali from the North Woods (caller)

And you know what?

Pete Schwab

I have

Ali from the North Woods (caller)

one other quick story.

Pete Schwab

Sure.

Ali from the North Woods (caller)

You were talking about going to Chicago to get a sandwich.

And it reminded me of the old mash thing where they ordered the ribs.

Oh, yeah.

And sauce?

Do you remember

Pete Schwab

that?

I do remember that one, yeah.

So

Ali from the North Woods (caller)

they ordered the ribs and sauce and they said, oh, you forgot the coleslaw.

Pete Schwab

Yeah, I'm not that patient.

I'm not ordering through the mail.

Thanks so much, Ollie.

Have a great night.

Ali from the North Woods (caller)

Oh,

Pete Schwab

that's fantastic.

I love it.

Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids says, ditto with tacos.

Tacos bravos from Taco John's.

I forgot about Taco John's.

I have never had Taco John's, I think.

I had it years ago.

It was good.

Also, Terry Barr is currently lost in the corn maze.

Can't make the show.

How does Tyler know that?

Maybe they're close friends.

Maybe it's a dinner detective type thing.

Paula, that's Conrad's mom, says, after bar, I'm not fussy.

It could be pizza, tacos, burgers, or chips and dip.

Conrad

Oh, chips and dip afters, actually.

That's

Pete Schwab

pretty good.

Really good.

You ever do that?

You ever just mow a bag of chips?

Oh, yeah, easily.

With nothing else, just like all the Doritos.

Doritos, yeah.

12,000 calories of just salt.

John in the 608 says, big country breakfast at the landmark in Freeport, Illinois, three pounds of breakfast.

And after I blended it into a haystack, oh, wow.

That's onion rings.

Conrad

Oh,

Pete Schwab

wow.

Yeah.

It was a dream meal.

Then afterwards, race home before the Cinderella Comet overtakes me.

Thank you, John Murray.

Conrad's dad says, back in the day, growing up in the Wisconsin Dells area, the best place to go after the bar closed was going to Country Kitchen and ordering their famous country skillet.

Yeah, that sounds like good.

Good after-bar food.

If my friends and I were partying in Madtown, the best after-bar food was a Euro and fries and Coke on State Street, Parthenon.

great deal at $4.95.

Steve, I don't know if you know this, and I totally agree with you, by the way.

I've been there a few times myself, but they close now like at $10 or something like that.

It's not open late anymore.

And I mean, it's probably for the better for the owners, but it probably cost them a lot of money because they were packed.

John says they stayed open till four and served nonstop drinks all night long.

Bless them all.

I think he's talking about the place in Freeport.

Yeah, awesome stuff.

Keep those texts coming, folks.

You can still get in on the fun.

What is your favorite after-bar food?

That's what we're talking about tonight.

And when we come back, it is a bar ban Friday night.

And Terry Barr has summoned her pal, Rocker, who will be filling in for her.

And he is going to give us the lowdown on all things Wisconsin music coming up next.

It's Peach Waba in Nightlight.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Time to check out

Narrator

original music with Bar Band Friday on Nightlight.

Now your host Pete

Pete Schwabba (host)

Schwabba and special guest Terry Barr.

Welcome back.

All right.

One of my favorite times of the week.

Bar Band Friday night here.

And it doesn't even matter.

Terry Barr, we love her so much.

But even when she's not here, we are in good hands because we are joined.

by our other Wisconsin music expert and Max Inc Radio co-host the award-winning music show here at Civic Media on WMDX.

It is on every Saturday from 6 to 9 p.m.

And if you don't live in the Madison area check out the podcast at civicmedia.us One half of this great team is here right now rocker.

How you doing buddy?

What's happening Pete?

Not too much.

Thanks for having me man

As always, it's our pleasure, and thank you for filling in.

I have to ask you, do you probably are a picture of health now after your recent issues?

I'm sure you're very healthy, but did you ever go through a time where you were chowing food after the bars?

Do you have a favorite 2am

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

snack?

There's one that I still love right now in Madison, and it's called Paul's Pelmeni.

And Palmini is a Russian dumpling.

And they're either filled with kind of like this beef or a potato.

And then you order the dumplings, either one, the other, or as a combo.

And they have some curry and some seasonings to it.

And you get it with a Russian rye bread.

And it hits the spot.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That sounds like way too sophisticated of a meal, though, for 2

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

AM.

That sounds

Pete Schwabba (host)

pretty good.

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

And the guy that owns it, well, he's in a band.

He's in the Madtown Manish Boys blues band, which we're going to actually hear from tonight.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh, fantastic.

Well, let's jump right in.

You always have a lot of material for us and we totally appreciate that.

So let's jump in.

What do you got tonight, buddy?

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

Well, you know, and a quick note, I thought I'd give you a little note about Max Inc Radio, right?

Yeah.

So Max Inc Radio is actually the radio part of what was Maximum Inc Music Magazine, which I distributed around the entire state of Wisconsin all the way up to Green Bay, all over Wisconsin for 27 years from 1996 all the way into the lockdowns of the pandemic.

Wow.

And after the, after the pandemic, we were kind of already doing

radio, and it just didn't make sense to bring back the print magazine.

But just so you know, you have a little background of where the Maxink name comes from.

I did know

Pete Schwabba (host)

that, but I'm glad that you reminded us because I kind of forgot that, you know,

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

but I did hear the

Pete Schwabba (host)

story at one point, so that's great.

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

Oh, yeah, all right.

Let's see, you know, tonight I was going to tell you that you can find our podcast also on Spotify and Apple music and of course civic media dot us slash Max Inc radio.

And this week on Max Inc radio, Terry and myself are off.

It's actually my 28th anniversary with my wife, Alice.

And so we're going to be selling bringing that Rob Roberts is going to be in spinning local Wisconsin made music.

And remember, you can listen to the podcast, of course, civic media dot us slash Max inc radio.

And for those bands that are out there listening also, we play local music.

And if you'd like to submit your MP3 to us, send to music at civic media dot us.

That's music at civic media dot us and the same if you'd be interested in playing live in our studio.

So much fun speaking, speaking and playing live in our studio.

Just two weeks ago, we had this guy Robbie Sender.

He's from Milwaukee.

He's a Milwaukee singer-songwriter, and he had an amazing performance in our studio, and he has a hero story of drug addiction and later redemption.

It was completely inspiring.

And of course, you can hear that on Spotify or Apple Music.

Let's check this out.

This is recorded right down at WMDX in Madison.

This is Robbie Sender.

This song is called Ten Feet Tall.

Robbie Sender (performance)

Yeah, I found

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

lightning

Robbie Sender (performance)

in the bottle Thunder follows everywhere she goes She got me running around on rooftops Got me bouncing off the walls I only stand at five foot eight But today I'm ten feet tall The red my head's been grown

I'm bound to float away.

Darling, draw your hero.

Strike me down to stay with your lightning in the bottle.

Thunder follows everywhere you go.

You got

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

me

Robbie Sender (performance)

running around on rooftops, got me bouncing off the wall.

I love that.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

great.

Robbie Sender.

Robbie Sender from Milwaukee.

Look him up.

It's R-O-B-B-I-E.

Robbie Sender.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Hey, I have a quick question for you, Rocker.

All

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

the

Pete Schwabba (host)

music you guys bring every Friday, whether it's you or Terry.

It's so good and there are people I have never heard of is that is that sort of discouraging?

I'm honest to God like because we have so much great talent here.

There's so many great musicians and bands Are there enough stages?

Are there not enough stages like

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

what do you think?

You know, I think that here in Wisconsin.

We are drunk on local original music.

Yeah state really Madison and Milwaukee are you know, really huge scenes, you know that the Fox River Valley

And it that's one of the interesting things that I think about Maxing radio is that we play all these bands from all over the state.

And their original music and there's no way that any one person can really know all the local bands.

So when you listen to Maxing radio, most of the time, everything you're hearing is new, even if it's an old throwback, even if it's a band that's not even around anymore.

It's still really going to be new to you most of the time.

You know, every now and then you'll be like, oh, I know that.

But right.

It's it's it's an interesting.

It's an interesting dilemma.

But on Maxink Radio, bands stay alive.

You know, on regular radio, you're always going to hear Led Zeppelin in the doors and all that stuff is going to live forever.

But where does the local bands music go when they quit Maxink radio or whatever their end is?

Yeah.

Great answer.

Exactly.

Pete Schwabba (host)

All right.

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

Who we got next here?

Let's see the the Madtown Managed Boys.

We were just talking about them Friday, October 24th.

That's tonight.

8 p.m.

They're playing at the Roxy in Madison.

That's 327 Gorham right off State Street.

And the Madtown Managed Boys, they're like a classic blues band.

They bring a fresh, authentic energy to blues and soul.

The guys are great.

And

They just make you want a boogie.

This is the Madtown Manage Boys.

It's called Get Out of My Life

Performer introducing 'Get Out of My Life Woman'

Woman.

Pete Schwabba (host)

It's so funny, like the amount of bluesy music you guys bring is baffling because this is, I don't think people equate Wisconsin with the blues, right?

Like, but

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

we have

Pete Schwabba (host)

great blues artists here.

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

Oh, just tons.

I mean, all over, everywhere up north, Milwaukee, Madison has a great blues scene always.

And they're part of it.

Manish boys, they're...

You know, younger, maybe the next generation of blues, where maybe you think of blues as really old guys with white hair and they're much younger and they have a world-class harmonica player.

Guitar is great.

Kyle Rayleigh.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I think I got that name wrong.

But they're just a fabulous band.

Yeah, that was great.

Uh, okay.

So who do we have next here?

Oh, let's see, uh, Scalaween.

Let's go right to Thursday, October 30th at the Yamere Bar in Madison.

It's one beer, please.

Cuoca, Lowboy, and Mascales.

And so, I mean, this has got to speak for itself, right?

It's ska music.

One beer, please.

This is money, money, money.

Love it.

Performer for 'One Beer Please'

left for me.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That was one

Performer for 'One Beer Please'

beer

Pete Schwabba (host)

please.

Great song.

Rocker is here.

He is one.

He is one of the hosts of Maxing Radio at WMDX.

And you can find all their stuff also at civicmedia.us.

A great show.

He's filling in for Terry tonight.

And it's great to have him.

I don't know much about Scott.

That was interesting.

I have to admit, I'm not.

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

Yeah, Scott's a little punky, a little reggae, but always a great horn section.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah,

Rocker (Max Inc Radio co-host)

that was fun.

So that's Scott.

You know what?

Have you ever heard of bad wolf?

They were a Madison band and back in gosh the 90s maybe even the late 80s and after reunion shows in 2007 and 2008 the band members they pursued other projects for a while lube angels and outlaws some really popular bands and then in April of 23

Bad Wolf Reunited for a musical celebration of life for Kenny Gonzo Keith, the singer for Metal Gons, Final Thunder, and Predators.

He was loved here in Madison.

And the band loved playing together.

They got back together.

Now they are back.

They've got a band.

They're having a album completion party for a brand new album they're putting out that's going to be released later this year, Saturday, November 8th at the Boulevard Lanes, 8 to 1130.

And I'll tell you, this was recorded at Megaton Studios down here in Madison and Bad Wolf.

What can you say?

This is a world premiere that we had this morning on the John and Gordy show.

So this is the second place.

This is the title track to their new album, dotted line.

This is Bad

Narrator

Wolf.

Pete Schwabba (host)

We have rocker here.

It's a Bar Band Friday night.

We are coming right back.

We'll try to squeeze one.

Who knows?

Maybe we could do two more rocker.

We'll see how we do, but we're going to do a really quick break and we're coming right back on Bar Band Friday night.

Don't go anywhere, folks.

It's Pete Schwabba at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Welcome

back.

Monday on the show, Dustin Mack from Appleton's History Museum at the Castle will be here.

We're going to talk about Houdini, a really cool Houdini event they have coming up.

And then we're going to discuss, so, Wisconsin Dells Ghostboat Tours with Emile Bertelot.

I hope I'm saying that right.

And then it's 720 on Monday.

Strategic will be here.

Musician Strategic will be here performing in the studio.

Great guest next week.

Director Max Hay, critic Rob Thomas, filmmaker John Roach, Emerson Layman from WBAY and our pal Todd Michaels will be here talking paranormal stuff.

Lots to come next week.

Let's bang out a couple more of these texts before we get back to rocker.

John Murray says, now you've done it.

Melissa at the 608 on Willy Street breakfast submission.

She doesn't like the cold shoulder.

I read it, John.

Talk her down, buddy.

I bounced all over, but I got to it.

Nick from Marshall, we read that one.

Don't you have anything else here?

John Murray says, thanks so much, y'all.

Very thoughtful, much appreciated.

Don't tell mama.

You're safe with us, John.

Thank you.

Steady Eddie, closing things out on the text line, says, Pete, after bar time, I used to say to myself, Steady Eddie, step back.

Put the bologna sandwich down.

Put the bologna sandwich, the cheeseburger and fries, nachos, Dorito, hot cheetos, crispy bacon, half gallon of vanilla ice cream, and those chocolate, chewy milk duds down and nobody gets hurt.

Most of the time I did not listen to myself, now I'm old and just stay home and avoid unhealthy food, temptations fueled by alcohol.

Conrad Steady Eddie needs a hug.

See what you can do.

Okay.

Give him a virtual.

Conrad (producer)

Sounds

Pete Schwabba (host)

good.

Thank you Steady Eddie.

Thank you to Chris Mays tonight and Rocker and all your texts and calls Rocker.

Let's see if we can get one or two more.

Maybe we can get through your whole list tonight.

This is great stuff you're bringing us as usual.

Rocker

You know, we got another one, Horace Green from Oshkosh, totally amazing band.

Love them.

Prince grew up in Oshkosh and joined a jam band.

It would be Horace Green.

They're playing tonight, October 24th in Sheboygan at Three Sheeps Brewery, October 28th in Appleton at the Stone Arch, November 8th in Milwaukee with Moon Glow at the Mad Planet and November 15th in Oshkosh.

Fifth Ward Brewing Anniversary Party.

Lots of chances to go see Horace Green.

Now let's check out their latest single.

It just came out in August.

This is called Cream.

This is Horace

Pete Schwabba (host)

Green.

That is a great song.

We've

Rocker

had them on the show

Pete Schwabba (host)

in the studio rock and they're they're so different and cool and Prince is a great comp.

Rocker

They are.

They're just a great band.

I've seen them live several times and they put on a great show, great musicians, great songwriting.

I mean, what can you say?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah, no, they're fun, great band.

It's kind of we have time for one more.

Conrad (producer)

Yeah, we can get one more.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Let's do that.

We'll get through all that Rockwell.

So

Rocker

we got one more.

All right.

Madison up off.

We just had her on our show just last week, which you can go and find apples and music and Spotify and hear the interview.

She has a debut album holding pattern that came out in 2024.

This song is from that album.

It's called Right Up to the Rind.

This is Madison Uphoff.

Let's

Madison Uphoff (caller)

go.

I've never felt at ease with myself where I am.

Stole some eyes to cut some tears.

Left bartering with rules, praying they all once were lambs.

Do you really find resolution from watching the minute hand chew right up to the rind?

Is it prayer that keeps you tied?

Productive survival with the proof that the soreness provides.

What

Madison Uphoff

I

Madison Uphoff (caller)

know is this moment is evening me alive Fixing seams and ironing out Reputation of sleep, middle seat With the windows down, out of reach And highest bow, turning beadbread

Pete Schwabba (host)

from home Boy, that was a great assortment of music you have tonight, my friend.

That was great.

Thanks, man.

Rocker

I appreciate it.

Thanks for supporting local music.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Always, buddy.

Keep up the great work at Max Inc.

And how are you doing in your fantasy?

You doing okay?

Rocker

Actually, I'm doing really good.

I'm the number one scoring team and I'm five and two.

Oh, wow.

I'm also the number two team that had points scored against them.

So it's a it's a battle to shoot out.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's awesome.

Have a great weekend, buddy.

And we'll talk soon.

All right, thanks be you got it.

All right, that's rocker check out maxink radio if you're in the Madison area on wdmx Or check out their podcast because it is a great show and you can check out all those podcasts on Spotify or civic media dot us Con what the the consensus on bologna Bad bad and I would say breakfast food or tacos.

Maybe we're number one Bar food.

I'd say tacos.

I feel

Conrad (producer)

like it's running away with it

Alright.

Cause I'm gonna switch my answer to tacos too.

I'm not gonna lie.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I could get some, I could mow some street tacos

Conrad (producer)

right now.

Yes, right

Pete Schwabba (host)

now.

I'm not even drunk.

I could change that too.

Alright folks, we are gonna get out of here and enjoy our weekends.

Hope you do too.

We will be back Monday to do this all over again.

It's just around the corner.

Don't despair.

We'll be back soon on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.

I'm Pete Schwabba saying good night

Wisconsin.

Well

Host

Fucking bad Boy that was I took a picture of my guests Eric Rathsack and Adam Kraus from my ask your mother They were doing the nightlight window fun.

I cannot believe how high you guys can jump and then you show me pictures on the stage you're like

That's

Eric Rathsack

nuts.

That's how it used to be able to jump those.

Those are old

pics.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I didn't burn my Reebok pumps either.

Those had six inches of vertical.

Host

Got my dress shoes on today.

I tried my best.

I will say when I go to a concert, I love when the performer just starts jumping when they say it's like just such a great energy.

Yeah, you gotta, you gotta sell it like that for

Eric Rathsack

sure.

Make some more fun for us, too.

Host

Well, let's, what do you guys want to play?

I'm always thrilled.

So we're gonna do

Eric Rathsack

a little Creed here, higher.

Yeah, nice.

Yeah, we had a lot of requests for Creed, a lot of people yelling at us when we learned it.

Host

I love it.

All right, this is Eric Rathsec and Adam Kraus from Ask Your Mother, performing Creed.

Adam Kraus

When dreaming, I'm guided to another world Time and time again I had sunrise, I fought to stay asleep Cause I don't want to leave the comfort of this place Cause there's a hunger

Only to escape the life we live when I'm away So let's go there Let's make our escape Come on, let's go there Let's ask, can we stay?

Can you take me?

To a place where I'd go down streams Although I would like the world to change It helps me to appreciate those nights and those dreams But my friend

I'd sacrifice all those nights if I could make the earth and my dreams the same The only difference is to let love replace all our hate So let's go there Let's make our escape

Let's go then.

Let's ask how we stay.

Can you take me hide you?

To a place where blind men see.

Can you take

streets.

So let's go there.

Let's go there.

Let's go there.

Let's go there.

Let's go there.

Let's go there.

Let's

very first time

Set up high I'm strong enough to take

Host

That's job.

Thank you.

That was fun.

Is that take it out of you?

That song?

That's like, you're digging there, man.

That one's right in my wheelhouse.

Wow, that's great.

Thank you guys.

Creed and higher.

Was that originally with an acoustic the way Creed played it?

Or was it electric?

Eric Rathsack

I did electric electric on that.

Yeah, I love the back story.

Yeah, it's I've always been like I have a theory that like there's so many great 90 songs that sound better with acoustic.

Host

Yeah, no, totally.

Eric Rathsack

But that the I guess the story behind that song is they they wrote it on stage with the crowd like they were taking crowd suggestions for like words and they just kind of organically came

Host

together and then became

Eric Rathsack

one of the biggest hits of they've

Host

ever had.

Oh, that's fantastic.

You guys haven't been here in a while, so tell people again, if you would, how did you get together musically, the two of you, or how did you both join the band?

So I

Eric Rathsack

joined before Adam.

I actually hold the record for most consecutive gigs of Ask Your Mother.

I am the Cal Ripken of Ask

Your Mother.

You are the Cal Ripken

shooter.

I'm not the oldest member, but since I have started Knock on Wood, I have not missed a gig that we have performed.

You are the Iron Man of Ask Your Mother.

Right.

So I joined them in 09.

They actually had been a band since 08.

And then the lead singer was moving away and then I auditioned and got the gig.

And then a few years later, Adam joined.

When did you join?

What year?

You remember?

It's been, I don't know.

You're

the new guy.

You're the new guy and you've been there over 10 years.

It's been a long time, 11, 12 years.

I joined the band in 1979.

Before the band was

even a band.

You left REO.

I left REO.

That's been awesome.

Stretch and I met, we met through a few different things musically and then we ended up both participating in the live band Karaoke.

Deja Vu.

Deja Vu downtown Appleton.

So much fun.

Nice.

So we got to know each other there.

They were, their keyboard player was leaving and, you know, made the offer.

I still have yet to officially accept but yeah I

made him I like I like this basically he was the only guy we auditioned I just kept saying it's Adam it's Adam said I'm no nobody else we don't need anybody else it's gonna be Adam and then they're like well we should look I'm no it's Adam Adam's gonna be the guy still

Host

still everybody else home right you guys have I was just looking at your website here like the bands that you cover are there other cover bands that have as big of a

library or catalog as you guys?

Eric Rathsack

I don't know for sure what everybody else is playing, but the one thing we hear consistently from people seeing us for the first time and people that see us time and again is that they love the variety of the stuff we do.

And we do cover a lot of different genres, always trying to bring a lot of energy to whatever we're doing.

Yeah, we do hear that quite a bit.

We do think it's one of our strengths, is that variety.

And if you, you know, for some reason, you don't like the song that we're playing, you're probably going to like the next

Host

one.

Yeah.

No, you got Luke Bryan, Loverboy, the Dropkick Murphy's, Durandra and Flo Rida.

Yeah.

I mean, this is

Eric Rathsack

just

Host

a great.

Well,

Eric Rathsack

like we had, what was our most recent like rehearsal, like group of songs?

It was like Montell Jordan, Backstreet Boys, Savage Garden, and Toby Keith's.

Like,

Host

how does that even happen?

Do you ever notice that, like, when you're playing a show, do people, does a certain segment of the crowd kind of, like, withdraw a little bit if you play country or hard rock or something?

Or do people, like, just feed off the energy you guys have?

Eric Rathsack

You know...

I don't notice a lot of people breaking away from what we're doing and I think it is the energy like you talked about because even if we're doing a song that they may not like, we really do enjoy playing it and we try to, you know, every song is a sing-along.

Every song gets everybody involved.

So even if you're not a huge country fan, you're going to have a good time.

You're going to enjoy a guitar solo.

You're going to enjoy something that we're doing in the song.

And if I don't like the song, I make it fun for me.

That's right.

Like, don't mention the songs by name.

I would

say I didn't like the song.

It's just like I make the song, I like the song more when I make it fun for me.

There you go.

Like Duran Duran,

like when we did

Hungry Like the Wolf.

Oh yeah, great.

I would

add like kicks.

That's

where the choreography comes in.

Stretch not only the Iron Man, the head choreographer of Ask Your

Mother.

It just happens organically.

We don't practice it ahead of time, and then pretty soon it's just part of the show.

Host

Eric Rassack and Adam Kraus from Ask Your Mother, a great local band.

You guys have some dates coming up.

Let's talk about them.

You've got...

Well, the next one is this weekend.

My M on my keyboard is not working, so I have ASCASH.

How do you not have an M?

It's just not, it's like useless.

What's

Eric Rathsack

the one right next to it?

That one looks like completely

Host

wore out.

That's the one that should not work, because I spilled acid on it, apparently.

But I'm having issues with my M's, I gotta figure it out.

But you've got something coming up this weekend.

Yeah,

Eric Rathsack

revs and Oshkosh.

That's it wrestle.

Host

Yeah, that was just bad typing.

That's all good.

Nothing to do with the M

November 1st in Omro,

Eric Rathsack

get close

Host

to home.

Oh,

Eric Rathsack

go

Host

ahead, sorry.

Eric Rathsack

Yeah, so the night before that on Halloween, we're in Wapaka.

At the ICC.

Oh, that's gonna be

Host

fun.

And I've never been to that

Eric Rathsack

place.

Oh, you gotta go there one time.

My wife

Host

used to have a summer home in Wapaka.

That's just like a big party place.

Yeah.

Well,

Eric Rathsack

the way they redid Indian crossing casino, it's like, it's really cool.

Like they got garage doors that open up over the water and everything.

Host

And

Eric Rathsack

it's really nice what they did.

And the backyard, they redid everything.

Host

Yeah.

That's on Halloween night.

Yes.

Halloween night.

Eric Rathsack

Which is a

Host

Friday.

Yeah, that's

Eric Rathsack

perfect.

Host

Okay.

And

Eric Rathsack

then November 1st is the, an omron.

We're doing the, we're doing a Halloween party for them too under a big tent outside.

So that'll be a good time.

Host

And then you pop up to Howard to Anduzzi's.

That's

Eric Rathsack

a busy weekend, my god.

I'm already tired.

Well, that's the, yeah, that's the homegrown way one.

Yes.

Right by the stadium.

So we'll be by the

Host

stadium.

Oh, okay.

And then you've got that town that used to exist that apparently still does exist, Manasha.

Eric Rathsack

Manasha still exists.

It's town of Manasha is no longer a thing.

Yes.

I just chose to live someplace.

a little more refined.

It's

mysterious.

Adam moved there and they're like, we got to rename this Fox Crossing

because Adam

crosses the road.

He's a fox.

I'm going to get my tires.

I'm going to get my tires slashed next time I go through.

Host

Do you guys have local bands that have inspired you or other cover bands or other non-cover bands like peers that you kind of feed off of or learn from?

Eric Rathsack

Absolutely.

I would say I model my my performance with like I try to be as entertaining as Scottie Thor watcher He is a friend of mine that plays in a band called Naughty Monkey and I try to bring the energy of like Mike Wendland who was in a bunch of different bands and Also, so those are two guys that I looked up to over

Adam Kraus

the

Eric Rathsack

years and that's kind

of how

I They do yeah, yeah, obviously Dennis from glam band that guy's always phenomenal energy and entertaining

You know, it's funny.

Mikey was on my list, too, from an entertainment standpoint.

Guys, all of it,

just

nuts.

Like, you can't get pumped.

You cannot get pumped, like, not watching him.

Like, he's just

like, brings it out of you.

Yeah.

And I think, even when I joined Ask Your Mother, and you guys were gonna think I'm blowing smoke up his butt, but Tim Beekler was one of my, and he's a good friend of mine, and a great musician, bass player.

But when he plays, he has fun and enjoys playing the...

Music so much and you can see it on every single song absolutely and being a bass player That's not always you know not always easy to do it's not a fun thing and he's enjoying every moment on stage And I've always tried to try to encapsulate a little bit of that when I

Host

play ask your mother is here in the studio They're gonna perform when we come back

Pete Schwabba (host)

You and Pete Schwabba.

This is Nightlight.

Great to have you with me.

Wrapping up a couple texts here.

Our question of the night was, what is your favorite romantic song?

John Murray put Canon in D. Beautiful music.

Well done, John.

Steady Eddie in the 608 says, Pete, over the weekend I was listening to the song Stardust.

The version sung by Willie Nelson.

Love that version, Steady Eddie.

He says, it's a song about a lost love, though I dream in vain.

In my heart, there will always remain my stardust melody, the melody of love's refrain.

That was the song, not steady Eddie talking to me.

I listened to it many, many times.

I recommend people listen to their favorite songs over and over.

It's easy on YouTube until they know the lyrics and the melody by heart and the song and emotion become ingrained into your brain.

Outstanding text.

He says, become the song.

Thank you, steady Eddie.

John from Madison also says, it's the dance you do after your first real kiss.

I think he was referring to his earlier, earlier text.

Thank you, John.

He says, this is for the guys in the studio here.

Ask your mother.

He says, don't say it out loud, but holy.

Blank, these guys are ridiculous live.

Wow.

Wow.

Thank you.

There you go.

Thank you, John, for Madison.

I totally agree.

You can see us with the

Adam Kraus from Ask Your Mother (guest)

whole band.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Thanks, John.

There's three more fifths of them, too.

Pamela from Wisconsin Rapids says, in the 1970s, heard the wedding song.

There is love.

Paul Stuckey at most weddings.

This was played at a lot of discos reunited by peaches and herb.

Oh, great, great choices Pamela.

Thank you.

And then Bridget from the 818 says, you are so beautiful to me.

Again, I assume that's the song.

Joe Cocker.

Yeah.

Great tune, man.

I'm sure you could do that one as well.

Tomorrow night on the show, folks, Jimmy Parto will be here, podcaster and very great comedian, a good friend of mine, and then Rex Sykes and Rocky Wagonhurst will be talking about a one billion.

I'm just gonna say one billion.

I'm gonna tease it there.

That's tomorrow night.

We've got a few more minutes left with our current guests.

I'm hoping we can bang one song out in the next three or four minutes.

Let's do it.

What do you guys got?

A little shabuzy for you.

A little shabuzy.

This is awesome.

Eric Ratzek from Ask Your Mother (guest)

My baby's born a Birkin She's been

Pete Schwabba (host)

telling me all night

Eric Ratzek from Ask Your Mother (guest)

long Gasoline and groceries

Pete Schwabba (host)

The list goes on and

Eric Ratzek from Ask Your Mother (guest)

on This nine to five ain't workin' Why

Pete Schwabba (host)

the hell do I

Eric Ratzek from Ask Your Mother (guest)

work so hard?

Can't worry about my problems I can't take her when I'm gone One, he calls a two to the three to the four

Tell them bring another round, we need 30 more.

Two stepping on a table, she don't need a dance floor.

Oh my, good lord.

Someone pull me up a double shot of whiskey.

They know me and Jack Daniels got a history.

There's a body downtown near Fifth Street.

Everybody has a bucket of tipsy.

Everybody has a bucket of tipsy.

Everybody has a

I've been boozy since I left I ain't changing for a check Tell my mind, I ain't forget Oh Lord, woke up drunk at 10 a.m.

We gonna do this stuff again Tell your girl to bring a friend Oh Lord, one He calls the two to the three to the four Tell him bring another round We need plenty more Two stepping on the table She don't need a dance floor Oh my Good Lord

Some will pull me up with double shot of whiskey They know me and Jack Daniels got a history There's a party downtown near Fifth Street Everybody at the bargain at tip C Everybody at the bargain at tip C Everybody at the bargain at tip C won

Here comes the two, to the three, to the four When it's last call and they kick yourself the door It's getting kinda late, but the ladies want some more Oh my, good lord, tell them drinks some more Someone pull me up a double shot of whiskey They don't mean a job, Daniel's got a history There's a bunny downtown in Fifth Street

Pete Schwabba (host)

Everybody has a vlog and

Eric Ratzek from Ask Your Mother (guest)

a tip seat Someone pull me up a double shot of whiskey

I have to say

Pete Schwabba (host)

that's the first

time I've ever heard Shibuzy is through you guys.

So that's outstanding.

Wow, that's great.

Now I'm going to find the song zone.

That's a good, what's that song

Adam Kraus from Ask Your Mother (guest)

called?

It's called

Pete Schwabba (host)

Bar Song.

Bar Song.

You know, I don't know what it's called.

It's Shibuzy.

Shibuzy.

That's us, Danny.

You guys are so much fun.

If you're listening and you like what you hear, these guys are, they have some great live dates coming up all around Northeast Wisconsin over the next couple of weeks.

Go to AskYourMotherBand.com and find out where you can see them.

The Halloween show in Wapaka town.

And one in Amro too.

Amro on the first, Induzzi's and Howard on the November 2nd, and then Menasha.

November 7th.

Box crossing.

Kind of a homecoming for Adam.

That one's actually really close to me too.

They welcomed me at this point after all these comments.

Conrad, do you have a request for the next time these guys are here?

Oh, come back to me in a second.

I have a request.

He needs his hair to

Adam Kraus from Ask Your Mother (guest)

stay

Pete Schwabba (host)

that

Adam Kraus from Ask Your Mother (guest)

way.

Pete Schwabba (host)

It's like this every day.

Oh man like once a month.

It's like I do

Adam Kraus from Ask Your Mother (guest)

Conrad were you ever like the big boy spokesman back in the day?

Like you got the same like big boy.

It's like it's phenomenal hair See, I am bald so I am like jealous of everybody's hair in the studio today

Eric Ratzek from Ask Your Mother (guest)

Conrad, do you know what big boy is?

Look

Adam Kraus from Ask Your Mother (guest)

it up is you'll probably it's gonna what was that?

What was the video game that the guy had the same kind of hairdo as the big boy?

What was I can't think of it

Pete Schwabba (host)

dude?

You could just walk into supercuts over in Bellevue and ask for the Conrad and know exactly I

Adam Kraus from Ask Your Mother (guest)

had hair that'd be what I'd go for he

Pete Schwabba (host)

cuts it religiously he gets it done like every once a month.

Well look at it months

And look at it though.

You don't leave that.

Adam Kraus from Ask Your Mother (guest)

You don't let that go bad.

Pete Schwabba (host)

You stay on top of

Adam Kraus from Ask Your Mother (guest)

that.

Pete Schwabba (host)

This is the most anyone has ever fussed over.

Probably in his life, not just on the show,

Adam Kraus from Ask Your Mother (guest)

right?

I don't think he gets enough credit

Eric Ratzek from Ask Your Mother (guest)

for

Pete Schwabba (host)

it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thanks you guys for being here.

Eric Ratzek, Adam Kraus from Ask Your Mother.

Check him out.

Go to Ask Your Mother.

band.com and find out where you can see them live.

You guys are so much fun.

Leave a pic too, Adam, again.

So that means you have to come back.

All right, all right.

Here, you're gonna

Adam Kraus from Ask Your Mother (guest)

ask your

Pete Schwabba (host)

mother pic.

It says ask your mother.

I'm gonna leave this right here and it'll be special.

Pete Schwabba

Welcome and welcome to nightlight folks.

We're broadcasting statewide from beautiful downtown Green Bay tonight on a Wednesday night in the fall Halloween writer on the corner a chill in the air What could be better?

We're talking about movies and TV and comedy and music and all the great stuff in life that makes us happy

And joining us now to make us even happier is one of my favorite guests.

This guy is a multi-talented individual.

He goes by the title Weezy Waiter on YouTube where he has over a million subscribers.

He is a musician and part of a really cool band.

And he also made the film No Packers, No Life, which is in theaters right now.

And he joins us now over the stream.

Mr. Craig Benzine, hey buddy.

Hello, hello, good to be back.

Great to have you back.

Craig Benzine

How are you?

I'm doing good.

I'm Just had a probably ate too much dinner and I'm feeling good.

Pete Schwabba

Do you have a favorite pizza Craig?

I know you're you've been in Chicago for years, but you're a Wisconsin guy Yeah,

Craig Benzine

a

Pete Schwabba

rivalry in pizza there, too.

Or do you have a favorite

Craig Benzine

pizza?

Well, so in Madison my favorite you said you talked about glass nickel earlier Yeah, I think just they have lots of good ones, but they're just their standard pepperoni sausage is really good

or pepperoni.

But I would say, but I hate to say it, but maybe my actual favorite is at a place called Pequod's in Chicago.

It's Deep Dish.

Pete Schwabba

I've never had Pequod's.

I've heard nothing but amazing stuff about it, though.

You're in the pizza haven of the world.

Basically, it's hard not to like some form

Craig Benzine

of

Pete Schwabba

Chicago pizza.

Craig Benzine

I know.

And a lot of people tell me they don't like Deep Dish, but you got to try Pequod's because it's

Okay, it's something something special.

Pete Schwabba

I can't I can't it's hard for me to do deep dish now But I would make an exception just because of all the stuff I've heard about Pequod's it do you live

Craig Benzine

near a Pequod's?

No, there's only there's only two at their inch.

I'm in Madison now.

So oh Yeah, so when I lived in Chicago, I would go there all the time.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, I thought you were still in Chicago Okay, so you live in Madison now.

Yes, I do.

Well, welcome home, buddy

Craig Benzine

Thanks.

I mean, I've been here for a little while, but yeah, thank you.

It's about time you welcomed me.

I

Pete Schwabba

don't get your updates anymore, Craig.

Damn it.

Well, it's great.

I didn't know that.

So that's terrific.

And Glass Nickel, I've got to try because my buddy Steve Burroughs did commercials for Glass Nickel years ago, and they are hilarious.

I don't know if you've ever seen them, but you can see them on the Google or the YouTube.

And it's just him being this snazzy salesman.

Very funny stuff.

Craig Benzine

I don't watch YouTube.

I don't have anything to do

Pete Schwabba

with YouTube.

You do whether you want to or not, it sounds like.

So, all right, let's talk, Craig, because this is like, you're on a roll, man.

You made this great film about Japanese Packer fans.

For those who might not be familiar with it, even though you guys are all over social media and the news and everything, tell us a little bit about No Packers, No Life.

Craig Benzine

No Packers, No Life is...

about Japanese Green Bay Packer fans.

I have a friend who goes to Japan a lot and just happened to come across this group of Japanese Packer fans.

They are so intensely excited about the Packers.

They meet on a regular basis to watch either live games as they happen at like two in the morning in Tokyo, or they'll go meet and re-watch

Games that they liked in the previous season and I was there with them To shoot the documentary watching rewatching a game and they were as excited as if they didn't know what was gonna happen and then So my friend Tide decided to fly them to a packer game so about around 30 of them ended up going to Green Bay and staying with in people ties friends in their houses

and experiencing Wisconsin and Green Bay and then a Packer game.

And there's some very emotional moments along the way that are, it's all, it's all happy stuff.

This might be the most positive documentary ever made, but.

Nothing wrong with that.

Pete Schwabba

That's okay.

Craig Benzine

Yeah.

But yeah, that's, that's, and it's about connections.

It's about people from others from different walks of life.

coming together, building a community around a thing they love.

Pete Schwabba

I'm fascinated that they watch games that already happen.

Like, I'm a big sports fan.

I would never do that.

Like, you know, my teams win huge games.

I don't do that.

And they have less of a connection, at least growing up maybe to American sports teams than we do.

That's serious fandom.

Craig Benzine

Yeah, I think it's also it's also coming together and building a community just over there in Japan because

In their culture, they don't get to, it's a little more, it's a formal culture.

So they don't get a chance to express themselves as much as I understand it.

And so the Packers, it's just all these people who let it all out by watching Packer games.

Pete Schwabba

Wow.

How was the trip?

When they came over here, I assume you guys had a lot of fun filming that, but what was it like for them over here?

Totally embrace it that they love it.

Did they were they curious were they just euphoric like what was that like?

Craig Benzine

Okay.

Well, first of all, I wasn't actually there for that part of okay, so but I but I did edit it so I've watched it all the footage but they were They were very it was all positive.

They were very excited They were blown away by a lot of them live in Tokyo and just to see the big houses of the wide roads the open space

And how everyone was so open and friendly It was all it was nothing but positive things to say and and they felt as if it was like It was a say like one of them says it was a sacred place to them going to Lambo is like almost a religious experience It must have been

Pete Schwabba

surreal.

Yeah

Craig Benzine

Yeah, I mean they they liked it.

They liked it a lot

Pete Schwabba

how you know, it's even more impressive is that you found Packer fans in a place

that is not known for their cheese intake on any level.

And here they are embracing Wisconsin.

That's a big hurdle in world

Craig Benzine

relations.

One of them had a cheese charm on their glasses.

And one of them was wearing a big cheese head that they've had for 20 years, apparently.

Pete Schwabba

So I'm guessing you didn't think when you set out to do this.

I don't know what you were thinking, but you know, every filmmaker when they set out, they're like, well, the sky is the limit.

Maybe this will be Big Fat Creek wedding, or maybe it'll strike a chord and go worldwide.

The fact that you're in Marcus theaters right now, before you get out on streaming platforms, I assume, maybe you didn't see that coming.

That's kind of a nice twist.

Craig Benzine

Absolutely not.

We just tried to send it to film festivals.

I mean, obviously, I thought it was good.

But I didn't know.

It's always hard to... Being in a band for so long, I've been making creative stuff for, I don't know, 25 years and I'm used to making things that no one's gonna see and no one's gonna care about.

And that's always in the back of my mind as a possibility.

And I always, I thought basically this, we would show to friends, it might show at a few film festivals and that was it.

But then we got into the Wisconsin Film Festival and the response was incredible.

And through that, we met Cannonball Productions who helped us, because they did the documentary just a bit outside the Brewer documentary.

And they helped us do all of this, get in contact with Marcus Theaters and show it all across Wisconsin.

Pete Schwabba

That's Sean Hanna.

She's a real slave driver.

I'm sure he really put you to work.

Craig Benzine

He did.

We had to do a lot of media.

Pete Schwabba

If every guy in the business was like Sean, nobody would ever complain.

Like I don't know what it's like working

Craig Benzine

with

Pete Schwabba

him, but he's been on the show several times and I love the guy.

You know, he's so much

Craig Benzine

fun.

He's the nicest guy in the world.

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

Absolutely.

So, all right.

So how long you have, you're in the theaters this week.

Do you have any idea how long the run will be?

Craig Benzine

I don't know.

We have,

It depends on if people go see it.

So more people have to go see it.

If it could go another week, it could go 20, I don't know, optimistically, but it's in there right now.

And we have a special screening this Friday in Green Bay.

Yeah, I was gonna ask you

Pete Schwabba

about that.

Craig Benzine

Yeah, sorry, I took your question.

No, no, no,

Pete Schwabba

that's okay, please.

That was

Craig Benzine

my

Pete Schwabba

next question at Bay Park Square.

So please tell us.

Craig Benzine

Yeah, I unfortunately can't be at the Q&A, but...

Producer and star tie will be there and mark murphy will be there.

Yeah, uh former president CEO of the Packers

Pete Schwabba

How did that happen is easy?

I assume he's seen the film or will that be his first time watching it?

I

Craig Benzine

I don't know again pride the power of Sean Hannish or mark mark cast who's been doing a lot of press work for us,

Pete Schwabba

so

Sure.

It was funny.

My guest is Craig Benzine.

He is the director of No Packers, No Life, which you can see in Marcus Theaters currently.

And as he just mentioned, there's a big event here in Green Bay at the Bay Park Square, Marcus.

And Mark Murphy will be there.

And there's a Q&A after it.

Sounds like a really fun event.

Mark Cass reached out and he's like, I've got this documentary about

Japanese Packer fans that come over and I'm like, oh, that sounds an awful lot like Craig's movie.

Your name was not in the email and out of a sense of loyalty, I'm like, I don't know about this.

I did a little more digging and Sean's name was in there.

I'm like, does Sean have the same idea?

No, it's gotta be the same film.

Come on, Mark.

Come on, give me an email.

Well, it's probably just an oversight.

I don't think he's trying

Craig Benzine

to pull a fast one on you, Craig, or

Pete Schwabba

anything.

What have any other Packers seen the film?

Has anybody approached you from the organization?

Like, have you gotten any feedback from current or former Packers?

Craig Benzine

Well, the VIP premiere we had in Waukesha last week, Wednesday, there were three Packers there.

There was George Kuntz, Amon Green, and Antonia Freeman were at the screenings.

Oh, nice.

Amon Green spoke at the end and had a lot of nice things to say and loved it.

Pete Schwabba

I would imagine they would love that.

When packers stick around that aren't from here and they continue living here, you know they fell in love with the community and love being ex-packers, right?

Yeah.

All right, so how else... Let me see here.

All right, so what is your next how do you follow this up Craig?

Like I know you kind of you just mentioned you're you know You got a band you're this YouTube influencer.

What do you follow up a film like this

Craig Benzine

with?

Well, I got to keep making YouTube videos, but but also I have plans I've been working on ideas for movies for a long time.

I have a couple of screenplay I've started writing screenplays and stopped but

Now that this movie is behind me, I think I can really go in earnest and I have a couple of ideas.

I don't know how much I want to reveal yet, but I would say one of them involves a heist.

So I've been really interested in the latest heist in the news.

Kind of want to make a heist movie set in Wisconsin.

Oh,

Pete Schwabba

I love that.

Those are my favorite kind of films, caper films, heist films.

Yeah.

How much of a departure, like,

That's so different than what you just did.

I have no doubt you can

Craig Benzine

pull

Pete Schwabba

that off because you're a musician and you got all kinds of stuff going on.

But how did you find it hard to write that after working on

Craig Benzine

this?

Or did you breeze?

Well, I haven't I haven't written it yet.

That's so yes, I am finding it hard.

I mean, I've done I've done a lot of I went to UW Madison ComArts.

I wrote a lot of screenplays then that was a while ago, but

I've done narrative things before.

I've just never done them on this scale.

Same thing with this documentary.

I've done, like I would say many of my YouTube videos are like miniature documentaries, but I've never done a full length one.

But I did it, and I think I did it a good job.

So I think I could do the same with a full movie.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, I have no doubt.

I meant to ask you this before we move on.

We've got about a minute to a break, but how was it watching No Packers No Life with an audience in Madison?

Or if that was your first time or the first time you did watch it with an audience?

Craig Benzine

The first time was in Waukesha and it was... Well, the first time I watched it was... No, I guess the first time for the market screenings was in Waukesha.

The first time with an audience was in Madison at the film festival and it was...

one of the best nights of my life.

It was incredible.

People loved it so much, and it felt so good to feel like I did my job.

Pete Schwabba

Outstanding.

Well, I still haven't seen it yet, but we're going to come back and talk more with our guest Craig Benzine, the director of No Packers, No Life.

I got a lot of questions for Craig, and it's great to have him on the show.

We're coming right back.

It's Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pete Schwabba (host)

This song is Man of Action, and my guest right now is Craig Menzine.

Are you the lead singer, Craig?

I am the lead singer.

That is a great song.

Craig Benzine (guest)

Well, thank you.

That's my band, Driftless Pony Club, and I believe the song was written by my friend Matt.

I can't take all the credit for it.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Well, you don't have enough hours in the day to do everything I do anyway, so it's okay to pass

Craig Benzine (guest)

the... I'm sure I had input on the writing of the song.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I don't

Craig Benzine (guest)

remember.

It was a while ago, but...

Pete Schwabba (host)

Great name.

I love the, does that come from by any chance the Driftless area of Wisconsin?

The band name?

Yeah.

Craig Benzine (guest)

Yeah.

Well, yeah, it was, we didn't, so a friend of a former member of the band bought a shirt at Goodwill that said Driftless Pony Club on it.

And we thought, we thought that was, that was the only band name that none of us hated.

So we, that's the one we went with.

And then we learned later that that was a pony club in the Driftless area of Wisconsin.

And they changed their name to the Black Rock.

They emailed me.

They found our band.

They emailed me.

They changed their name to the Black Hawk Pony Club or the Black Rock Pony Club.

I can't remember.

Because it sounded more competitive.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's so great.

I love the song, and I understand it's in the film, No Packers, No Life.

Terry Barr, who does so much here at Civic Media, and she's our guest on Bar Band Friday night here at Nightlight on Fridays, brought the song, and I couldn't believe it.

I was like, oh, this guy's got a band, too?

You just got your hand in everything, and it's such a fun song.

Did you write it for the movie, or was it just something you guys had that you're like, hey, this would fit perfectly?

Craig Benzine (guest)

Well, so I I just had it's something I had so I was editing the movie and I was looking for music and the most readily available and Legal music to use was our own music And I you know I tried a lot of different music But that just seemed to work really well with the part in those parts of the it's like during the really partying parts of the movie

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba (host)

it makes sense.

It's just to feel good.

It's a great song.

It's got, I could totally see it in a movie.

So I keep trying to move on from no packers, no life, but I...

It's hard because there's so much to talk about it.

You have a swag as well.

You want to tell people where they can get a No Packers, No Life mug or a toenail clipper or

Craig Benzine (guest)

something?

Yeah, just nopackersnolife.com.

There's hoodie, there's a t-shirt.

I don't know what else there is.

That is all.

Oh, there's a hat there, poster.

Yeah, nopackersnolife.com.

Very cool.

And you can also see information on the special screenings.

and everything,

Pete Schwabba (host)

so yeah.

Do you have streaming info yet, Craig?

No streaming info right now.

You'll have to keep us posted on that.

Yeah.

Love to get the word out about it.

My guest is Craig Benzine.

He is the director of No Packers, No Life, currently playing in Marcus Theaters here in Wisconsin.

He's also a musician.

And where do you guys play, Craig?

Do you actively, do you play bars in

Craig Benzine (guest)

Wisconsin?

We used to.

Now we all live in... We've been a band for...

20 years, over 20 years, maybe 25 years actually.

Yeah, I guess if you count the pandemic.

But yeah, we met in college, we played a lot around Madison.

Started developing a little bit of a following around Madison, but then we moved to Chicago and struggled for a while until my YouTube channel took off and then it kind of helped the band take off a little bit.

But now we all live in different places.

The bassist Sam still lives in Chicago, but the other two members live in Minnesota.

But we are starting to work on a new album.

But what we're doing is slowly, I keep driving up there and we keep working on stuff.

Pete Schwabba (host)

If people want to find the music you guys have already created, where can they find that?

Is that online anywhere?

Craig Benzine (guest)

Yeah, it's in all the places you listen to music, but let's check the status of DriftlessPonyClub.com.

We have DriftlessPonyClub.com, we have a band camp, we have all the things, we're on all the things.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah, you guys should definitely take advantage of the internet.

Yes.

So that's cool.

I would love it.

If you guys ever are in Green Bay, I would love to have you play that song in the studio sometime or just whatever you want.

It'd be fun to have

Craig Benzine (guest)

you.

That'd be awesome.

Pete Schwabba (host)

If

Craig Benzine (guest)

we can get together enough to write an album and maybe have a little tour, that would be great.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That would be outstanding.

Can I keep you for a few minutes past the news?

I want to ask you what's new at Weezy Waiter and talk a little TV and Halloween and all that kind of stuff.

All right, fantastic.

Craig Benzine is my guest.

He is the director of No Packers, No Life.

And you can follow him on YouTube.

He's a Weezy waiter and he's got over a million subscribers.

I don't know quite how that's possible, but it's true.

And the band is officially getting back together.

So Craig is going to stick with us past intermission into act two for a few minutes before we let him go.

Gary in Madison says his favorite pizza is the Italian carne pizza at Portobello.

Oh,

Craig Benzine (guest)

have you read at Portobello, Craig?

That's right.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Long,

Craig Benzine (guest)

long time ago.

Yeah.

I think I have.

Pete Schwabba (host)

It's a cross from the state street brats, right?

Kind of in down the block a little bit.

Craig Benzine (guest)

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I think I

Craig Benzine (guest)

went there once, went in college.

So like 20 years ago.

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I always walk past there and it's like the nicest looking place, but it's never, I didn't know if it was still open or if stuff happened there or not.

But that's,

Craig Benzine (guest)

I remember liking it, but.

What do I know?

I was a college

Pete Schwabba (host)

kid.

Exactly.

You're not eating.

You're not fine dining.

Thank you, Gary, for the text.

Let's see if we can get one more in here before the break.

And 920 says, I can't wait to see that documentary.

There you go.

Check it out.

920.

No Packers, no life.

If 920, if you're right here in Green Bay, check out that event Friday night too at Bay Park Square.

All right, we've got more with Craig Benzine, more Packer talk, Weezy Waiter talk.

It's going to be a blast.

Don't go anywhere.

It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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