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Across Wisconsin on Civic Media, you're listening to Mornings with Pat Craiglo powered by Up North News.

Now, for my Lake Wissota studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Craiglo.

Well, hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

Happy Friday to you, 606 on a Friday morning, October 24th, 2025.

And it's another beautiful morning to have you here up north, live from Lake Wissota, from wherever you're listening across the Civic Media Radio Network.

or catching us as a podcast or on social media.

Thanks for wrapping up your week right here.

I got a question for you.

Who saw that coming?

Let's legalize sports betting everywhere.

Let's make it so easy to bet on sports with the prop bets and everything that there's

There's the chance that some players or coaches could try to make a buck off of this.

And I know you're thinking, wait, these guys make, you know, tens, hundreds of millions of dollars.

Yeah, but the temptation is there.

And now there's so much more temptation than ever before.

And of course, I'm talking about that blockbuster story that dropped shortly after we finished up our show here yesterday.

And we'll talk to Courier Newsroom's Keeva Keel coming up in about 15 minutes.

All about this massive betting scandal involving NBA players and coaches and organized crime families Yeah Again, we're not looking for prohibition of all betting in the country that's not gonna happen, but clearly

the rain's got a little bit too loose, and so we'll have that coming up for you in just a little bit.

Along the way, feel free to join us at 855-75-CIVIC, 855-752-4842, or of course,

use that Civic Media app.

There's so many ways you can reach the show.

You can call the show from the app, you can text the show from the app, you can leave a voice note, a little audio message for us through the app as well, or you can reach us on the Facebook and YouTube pages of both UpNorth News and Civic Media.

It would be great to have you along.

All right, we'll have our usual Week in Review panel as well, talking about some of the day's headlines in our seven o'clock hour, Dr. Kristen Lyrely at eight, and then at 8.35.

We'll have Mike Clemens in with sports.

A very unusual story from Mike Clemens that I believe our producer Parker Olson down in Madison Studio A2.

Had have have you heard a little bit about this the the Mike Clemens viral post with Aaron Rodgers?

I didn't know that that originated from Mike Clemens.

But

yeah, I knew

about it.

Yeah, so yeah, Mike put up a post a couple years back of somebody that looked just like Aaron Rodgers riding in the back of a fishing boat that was being towed by a pickup truck or something.

And some guy that looks like Aaron Rodgers in the boat drinking beer.

And Mike Clemens finally got a chance to ask him yesterday as they get set to cover the Packers and Steelers game this weekend.

Was that you?

And so we'll find out more about that.

We'll talk about the game as well.

Packers, Steelers in Pittsburgh coverage begins Sunday at five on stations in Richland Center, Park Falls, Racine and Watoma.

And it'll be the first time the Packers have faced Aaron Rodgers in a uniform.

from some other team.

And I think even though it's, it's a late Sunday game, which, you know, woe is us pity party for the early risers.

But I think a lot of people are going to be very interested in that game.

See how he looks.

I'm pretty interested.

I, I've been very surprised with how good he has looked this season.

Um,

so that could be very interesting.

It seems like he kind of still can move for an old man.

So that's pretty impressive.

Uh, yes.

Yeah, it appears he can.

And so.

That really has to motivate, you know, our defense who, I mean, you don't want to be the guys to lose to Aaron Rodgers.

You

know,

it just makes you look bad.

But I worry that Jordan Love is going to try to like overcompensate, you know, and try too hard and overthrow people.

I'm sure he's heard that a bunch, you know, this week and getting a plan for the game.

So

there's something about the game being in Pittsburgh that makes me more comfortable for some reason.

Oh, yeah.

If it was in Green Bay, I feel like it would be a bigger deal because it'd be a homecoming for Rogers, but I feel a little less worried for whatever reason going into Pittsburgh.

Oh, good.

Okay.

Well, you know, again.

It's it's the reason we play the game is to find out what what's what's this guy really got?

You know and does he have it consistently or will he you know show his age at some point and you know need a walker to get off the field at some point We'll see how that goes.

All right, so we'll talk to Mike about that as well and Then what else was I gonna bring up to you?

Oh, there's along with the NBA betting scandal, of course it could not be there could not be worse timing because

You know, the season's just getting going.

Everybody wants to be excited about it.

And so now I have to say it in a rather tongue-in-cheek way.

In other news about the NBA, if you head over to the Up North News website, upnorthnewswi.com, you know, all kinds of good Wisconsin stories on there, including one about all of the new food and drink options at Five Sir Forum, if you're going to a Bucks game.

And remember, we did this, you know, before the Brewers opened up their season.

I know we've talked about it before, Packer seasons before.

So now that we're

into the buck season, you think you're going there just to watch a basketball game?

No, you're not.

No, that's it's the whole experience.

And you can get the usuals, you know, you can get a brat or a hot dog or, or whatever.

Now there's even, you know, there's there's some loaded fries on the menu.

But how about this?

How about the

Smokestack 414, that's the area code for Milwaukee, fire roll and giant bone-in beef rib.

The 414 fire roll features and duly sausage, pickled celery, onions, peppers, and rumelade on a bun.

The giant bone-in beef rib is available for the home opener and a limited number of marquee games.

So it's exclusive.

It's exclusive and, you know,

There's a reason that we don't normally serve bone in ribs at the game.

Again, most people behave themselves, but let's, let's not, let's not serve projectiles with our food.

You know, what, what am I going to do with this bone now that I finished this rib?

I don't know.

Pull up, pull a jack black from Anchorman going, Oh, this is so filling.

And you know, throw the burrito out the window.

So remember if you get the loaded beef rib, keep it to yourself.

Don't don't share with

us.

I didn't think that was going to be the major concern with this.

I was worried more about like bowel movements, not the bone movement.

No, no, no, I was worried more about the sticky fingers.

Again, yeah, it's it's a bone and beef rib.

You know, you're lots of napkins going to be needed for that.

Let's see.

There's also Nashville Hot Wings and chicken sandwiches there.

There's a whole new variety of handcrafted dirty sodas.

It's so funny that they tried to play this up like oh dirty soda their flavored sodas They got they got flavors in there flavors and maybe some things like you know cream or things like that But there will also be like spiked iced teas.

They'll be Jack Daniels blackberry whiskey Do you remember when all you had was like beer wine and pop?

And that was it.

And that was that was all you needed.

And now it's like, yeah, let's let's spike everything.

Let's spike ice tea.

Let's spike lemonade.

I don't

think there's a need for

that.

No, there's no I don't think there's no shortage of temptations there that you will find at Milwaukee Bucks Games coming up.

Let's see.

Well, I mentioned all the things that are coming up on the program, but I neglected to mention that there is the possibility that you can't stick around for all that.

I mean, you have a life.

You're allowed to have a life.

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I'm going to start putting that together after the show here.

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What are the odds of that?

So let's see how I can nail it for next week here.

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It is a cold one across the state right now.

Temperatures range from 19 degrees in siren.

to 39 degrees in Sturgeon Bay, it is 25 here in the Chippewa Valley right now, 32 in Wausau, 34 in Oshkosh, Wisconsin Rapids coming in at 25, La Crosse is at 30 degrees right now, and Hayward is at a very chilly, no it's not very chilly Parker, it's cold, it's a cold, 21 degrees in Hayward.

This is really the time of year where you need to make sure that you have some key pieces of equipment in your car, right Parker?

Yes Tell the people what you did.

I

don't know where the ice scraper is for my car and I park outside So I had to wait five minutes for my windshield to be.

Oh, I don't know visible You want it to see

where you were going?

Yeah, I

can make this drive pretty much by memory, but it helps if I can see

It does.

Yes.

So you didn't go with the credit card or driver's license scraper method?

No, I just waited for a couple of minutes thinking, you know what?

I'm a little late, but like I'm fine on time.

You know, it's not that big a deal if I have to sit

here for a couple of minutes.

No, it's not like anything else would delay you.

You'll get into work just fine, right?

Oh wait, what

happened next?

There's real road tracks right by our studios.

And it was the longest train

I think I've ever

been stuck behind.

because it was like six minutes long.

And Pat, this train was coming from a dark area.

So I couldn't see how much train was left.

It

just like kept

appearing and appearing and appearing.

I'm like,

no.

Come on.

And I've noticed that now in in Madison proper there.

First off, I'm still kind of surprised that they haven't built, you know,

overpasses and things for enough of these train crossings.

But regardless, these trains, they'll come through, of course, at the worst possible time.

And I know it's a matter of safety first.

But I also, being the naturally passive aggressive person I am, believe that there is a certain passive aggressive nature to some of these folks on the railroad.

My dad, you know, worked on the railroad for many, many years.

It's like

Oh, look at somebody's waiting for us.

Slow, slow it down a little bit, Charlie.

Slow it down a little bit more, a little bit more.

They do

seem oddly slow.

Now blow the horn and wake everybody up.

Yeah.

But you made it.

I mean, how long a delay was it?

Six minutes for the train.

Okay.

I was impressed by that.

It felt like 60.

Yes.

It felt very long paired with the lack of ice scraper.

Yes.

Okay.

But you're here, and that's what counts.

And we like having that.

So tonight, there's Badger basketball.

They're in the exhibition season right now.

So the Badgers will be playing Oklahoma at Milwaukee's Pfizer Forum.

Coverage begins at 6.30 on several civic media stations.

Then tomorrow, the Badgers, the football team will take on Oregon.

Coverage begins at four o'clock tomorrow afternoon.

on some civic media radio stations and of course we mentioned on Sunday the Packers taking on the Pittsburgh Steelers again coverage begins at 5 p.m on Sunday because it's a Sunday night football game Badger Women's Hockey they are playing this weekend at LaBona Arena in Madison they are taking on Minnesota State Mankato the Badger Women's Hockey team ranked number one in the country eight and oh on the season

five of those eight wins have been shutouts and the Badger women's volleyball team ninth ranked in the country will take their 13 and three record out west tonight.

They are taking on Washington.

You can see that game on the Big Ten Network starting at 9 o'clock tonight.

So some late night volleyball on the West Coast for the ninth ranked Badger women's volleyball team.

The Toronto Raptors will be hosting the Milwaukee Bucks tonight at 5.30.

Guard Kevin Porter Jr.

has a badly sprained left ankle according to an MRI.

And then you've got the World Series starting tonight.

It'll be the Toronto Blue Jays and the LA Dodgers Game 1 of the World Series coming up tonight.

Coming up next courier newsrooms key of a keel and we'll start by talking a little betting scandal and also getting into a new round of gerrymandering this time in Virginia from the heart of America's up north live from Lake Wissota.

Thanks for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.

I'm back right low.

This is the civic media radio network.

Welcome back.

It is a Friday morning, which means we're going to check in with Courier Newsroom's national political editor, Kiavakeel, and talk about some of the national headlines of the week.

Kia, hello.

How are you?

I am well, Pat.

How about yourself?

I'm good.

I'm good.

Happy to be at Friday and happy to have somebody who can take a few minutes and talk to me about this rather

epic, shocking.

Well, maybe shocking is not the right word.

National story about gambling and NBA players and organized crime.

And I am looking like the most, you know, prescient, you know, question of the week writer ever.

When I wrote, you know, for last Sunday, what people thought about organized sports betting.

I'm betting some people might have changed their answers since last weekend.

How do you want to give the overview of what this is all about?

Yeah, so they're on Thursday morning.

The FBI arrested the head coach of the Portland Trail Blazers, Chauncey Billips, who's a former NBA player, a current NBA player for the Miami Heat, Terry Rogier.

and a former player and close confidant of LeBron James named Damon Jones, who's an assistant coach right now.

Two different cases going on here.

But basically, Billups was indicted for allegedly participating in a years long scheme to defraud poker players in like real life games.

And this reportedly involved members of the New York crime families.

And Roger is charged with allegedly taking himself out of a game early so that

you know, someone he knew or a co-conspirator could place a bet and win.

These are sort of the results of another betting investigation into another player that most folks probably haven't heard of named John Tate Porter.

But basically, this is just the latest example of something we're seeing more and more in the last couple of years of pro athletes being investigated, indicted and charged with basically rigging things, whether it's directly games are involved in or off the court gambling endeavors.

And I think we're going to see more of it.

We, you know, this is part of a trend because over the last seven, six, seven years, we have seen the doors just thrown open to sports betting, mobile sports betting.

Every sports match you could think of, every sports program you can think of is now has like

the bet ESPN bet or fan duel or draft Kings and it's just everywhere.

And the only way out of this is to really tighten the reins on our sports betting and what these leagues and what these sports networks and what these athletes do.

But I don't think we're going to see that anytime soon.

I think it's we unfortunately this is the world we're in right now.

Yeah, I think the toothpaste is out of the tube.

And yes, there are

I'm sure people who are saying, Hey, wait a minute, it wouldn't matter if it was legalized or not.

People have been gambling, you know, throughout life.

And that, you know, there will always be people who play poker, blah, blah, blah.

I get that.

But I just feel like this, this has normalized betting it that it's essentially a right of passage among young men that there's something wrong with you if you're not

betting on something.

And it's not just like the outcome.

It's very tough for like an entire team to throw a game.

It's this whole thing about prop bets.

And you know, we'll we'll give a keel play, you know, 32 minutes in this game.

And, you know, if you if you take yourself, oh, my arm is broken.

You know, I mean, who's to know who's putting a prop bet on that.

So when when people say, well, there's always been gambling here.

Yeah.

But this this has really opened up something where it's tough to put the toothpaste back in the tube here.

Yeah.

And that's true.

There always has been gambling.

I grew up a couple hours from Atlantic City.

I've been to Vegas.

I have gambled.

I play poker with friends.

But there was friction in it.

You had to go to a casino or you had to obviously have a bookie, which technically not a thing you should have.

But there was friction in it.

You couldn't download an app.

And just while you're watching TV or in between scrolling Twitter and talking to your loved one, just place 18 bets.

And

now people can do that.

That's day trading.

That's day trading is what it is.

It's day trading.

And what it's toxic, though, is it

I'm a sports fan you're a sports fan a lot of like it ties up day trading with a hobby and that's really really dangerous and it's a hobby that most men have and a lot of women have and it ruins lives you can get really not all gambling but lots of people have had their lives ruined by these apps there are so many lawsuits right now because so many men have just gambled away their entire life savings it has led to divorce it has led to suicide it is so toxic and yes that's not Chauncey billips but

It's the same culture.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, the number of stories I've done over the years as a reporter about embezzling, somebody embezzled from their from their small business and it went under or their little league team and it went under.

And in almost every case, it ties back to gambling debts.

And so this is this is indeed a pretty big deal.

Well, we'll get to one political story for the week.

And this deals again on, you know, gerrymandering or redistricting, however you want to put it.

It started with Texas Republic

California, Democrats, other states.

The latest is Democrats in Virginia, which was a bit of a surprise to me, but now Democrats in Virginia, are they in a position to actually change the makeup of their congressional map?

Yeah, they could be.

So they, the New York Times reported on Thursday that the Virginia Democrats and the Legislator are basically going to hold a special session.

before the elections in two weeks to try to counter what Republicans have done in Texas and in North Carolina this week most recently by coming back and drawing new congressional maps and So, you know, we'll see what happens if and when they actually come back They have a very small majority in the chambers So they would need every pretty much every Democrat to support this and they could do it if they if every Democrat does despite a Republican governor young can could have no role in this one young in the governor

But this is essentially a response to North Carolina Republicans and Texas Republicans and pressure on Indiana Republicans.

And Ohio is going to redraw their maps.

And essentially, all of this is the result of Trump trying to predetermine the outcome of the 2026 midterms by having Republicans eliminate anywhere from half a dozen to a dozen Democratic held seats so that short of a blue wave, the elections decided before voters ever cast a ballot because the maps are so rigged that only Republicans can win.

And it's, from my perspective,

I don't like gerrymandering, but if we're going to, I don't think Democrats can just roll over and die and accept that they're never going to win because Republicans have just agreed that this is what they can do.

Yeah, this is not a chicken and egg debate.

We know where this started with started with Donald Trump and Texas Republicans and everything that has flowed from it.

Never mind what all happened in the past.

This cycle, which is building to an extreme level had its origin in Donald Trump again this week.

was embracing 2020 election denial, again, trying to put his thumb on the scales for the next round of midterm elections.

Keva Keele, Career Newsrooms, National Political Editor in Los Angeles.

Keva, thanks very much.

Have a good start to the weekend.

Thanks.

You too, Pat.

We'll have today's history lesson after this.

You're up, North.

Here we go Santana lands their first number one album in the US as a breakfast claims this top spot this day in 1970 55 years ago today

with tracks like Oye Komovah and their cover of Fleetwood Mac's Black Magic Woman.

Yeah, that was originally a Fleetwood Mac tune.

Welcome to today's history lesson for this Friday morning, October 24th, which means if it's Friday, we get to welcome our pal, our buddy, our friend, our Pookie Bear, Greg Bach.

Ladies and gentlemen, from Matten Air on Air, mornings 9 to 11, across the Civic Media Radio Network.

I am Pookie Bear, and I love Santa-

And

how did that go?

Oh, very nice.

Okay.

Have

you ever thought of like

Joining Max Inc radio or just bringing the guitar in yourself and just playing live during matinee around

there.

Oh, I wouldn't do that to anyone.

That

bad, huh?

No, you said eight and a half out of 10.

I

mean, that was also many years ago.

But I don't know.

I mean, like I've been playing little by little lately and just trying to like.

as a hobby,

as

a time filler, as whatever.

But yeah, it's something I still, I love guitars.

I'm a huge guitar nerd, not just for like guitars, but like the history, the design, the building, everything.

I could talk about them for hours.

And I won't do that to you, because it

would just be me

talking.

But honestly, you could not have picked better than Santana.

If you're gonna try to learn guitar, you may as well learn from the best,

you know?

Tony must have been thinking about this as well.

He just put on YouTube.

Have you thought about bringing a guitar camping and making everyone around the campfire listen to you?

No, I'm not 22 years old anymore.

Hey, Alicia says Alicia says good morning.

Greg as does Tony.

Everybody's happy to have you here on the birthday list today.

Happy birthday to former bass player for the Rolling Stones.

Bill Wyman still with us.

He's 89 years old.

So, speaking of prop

bets, who

would have put a prop bet on any member of the Rolling Stones still being with us at age 89?

Not me.

I think Brian Jones is the only one who's passed of the original

five.

I

know, I know.

Oh my, well that was the thing for so long Pat, that of all these rock stars passing away over the years.

The four original members of Black Sabbath had still been alive for so long.

I'm like, I don't know how this works.

Well, I think it's sending the wrong message to our children.

But then again, we were talking earlier about spiking everything under the sun, you know, lemonade, nice tea and everything.

So I don't know.

Maybe that's the way to go.

Let's see.

More birthdays.

Drake, another Canadian export.

He is 39 years old today.

Yeah.

Okay, now I get to sound like I get sound like an old guy and I try not to say this about most People have you know a a bass sound to them.

Yeah, but in the case of Drake, I mean They all do kind of sound the same to me

because Drake is basic and he is whatever I'm

sick Drake

Yeah.

No

Drake.

No Drake in this house.

So

I guess you won't be sending him a birthday card today for his 39th birthday on this day in 1992.

A record was set with this song by boys to men.

Yes, we have slow skate right now

folks couples only slow skates.

I do the lights have been dimmed Oh careful what you skate into with the late stem like that On this day end of the road tied Elvis Presley's don't be cruel with Town Dog on the B side as the longest running number one single when it reached its 11th week at the top of the charts End of the road would then go on and spend two more weeks at number one But then lose that record three months later

When Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You stayed number one for 14 weeks in a row.

The current record now has two songs on it, Greg.

Last time around we said that it was it's 19 weeks and it was set in 2019 by Lil Nas X and Old Town Road.

Did you realize it was tied last year?

By Shaboosie's A Bar song

tipsy, which also was the number one song for 19 weeks in a row.

There is such a deeper nuanced discussion on that point that we don't have time to go into.

But I will say good on you, Shibuzy.

I like Shibuzy.

Okay.

I'm

really interested.

Wait, can we dive into this?

Yeah, let's dive.

Where are we going here?

It's a commentary on country music and artists record and what constitutes country music.

Who's recording the song and the reception from the country music

and the

mainstream audience on the whole.

But like I said, that is for a podcast.

or sitting around a campfire while enforcing you to listen to me play Dave Matthews.

No, no, no.

You'd have to play Bad Bunny, because I want Bad Bunny now.

We talked about this yesterday.

I want him to do a thing with George Straight, because if those country folks didn't like Old Town Road, because it wasn't country enough, even though it had Billy Ray Cyrus, and they don't like Shibuzy, and they don't like Bad Bunny, it's like, I mean, what are we gonna do?

Just listen to Anita Bryant records?

Oh, deep cut, buddy.

Deep

cut.

Deep cut.

If you have another three hours, I can talk to you about George Strait, too.

And by

the

way, I'm going to go see Marty Stewart tonight, so I'm very excited.

Are you?

Oh, that's great.

OK.

Let's go back to the history lesson here, 1987 now, when the number one album was by Michael Jackson.

Tony's out here going Neil McCoy for everyone.

Are we just trying to cope with the most vanilla country singers?

Oh, I swear to God Pat McCoy's good.

I didn't say it wasn't good.

Just not very Who's

the spicy one that tell me some spicy?

I would I would say somebody like a Tim McGraw

versus say an Alan Jackson who just stands there or George String who just stands there.

You know Tim McGraw will put on a bit of a show.

I think that's what we're talking

about.

I see what you're saying.

Okay, all right.

I got

it.

Weird little coincidence on the stock market.

First off on this day in 1929, it was Black Thursday.

The Dow industrials dropped nearly 13% marking the start of the stock market crash and the Great Depression.

But then on this day in 2008,

The same day it was bloody Friday when stock exchanges around the world dropped around 10% kicking off the Great Recession.

So maybe don't have any money in the markets today.

Also, we don't need such crap.

Like the next one is like, oh, bummer Friday.

There

we go.

How about

that?

Roadkill Wednesday.

And if you think those were bad days, on this day in the year 79 AD, Mount Vesuvius erupted, Bering, Pompeii, and other cities and killing thousands.

We call

that Dusty Wednesday.

Fun little, I went to Memphis this past January, and there was, and so growing up, Graceland was just a house.

Yes.

like a Disney World style park now it's huge and it has its own like conference convention center and there was a beautiful like really.

Like got you like there was a lot of history, but it was all about it was all about Pompeii and exactly what happened on the day.

What did it have to do with the fact that there was an effect on another town over at Graceland Graceland because they have a because they have a huge convention center there, too It's not just a house.

In fact, I don't know where the house is, honestly But on the side there's a huge convention center where you would see like a comic-con or something and it was a huge Just like that day it happened to be the Pompeii thing.

It's not a permanent fixture

But it was like a touring thing.

It was there.

It was like a museum.

It was like a big museum.

I was about to say, we just stopped competing.

We've now found the most random tangent in a discussion ever.

But no, it was not a regular thing.

It was a traveling thing.

OK, got it.

Thank you.

On this day in 2000, Lenny Kravitz released his greatest hits album, peaking at number two.

And it also featured this fresh track.

This also got him his third consecutive Grammy for best male rock vocal performance and When he when he asked about whether you could win it four years in a row his team told him keep your hands on buddy Anyway, also in 2000 not your shirt.

Yeah, no no no also on the stand 2000 Lincoln Park released their debut album hybrid theory bolstered by this

hit

It almost feels weird to play this song.

It's something other than 11 on the volume knob It is just it's just a turn it up play this one loud Yeah, so it also had the Grammy award-winning crawling and it became the best-selling album of 2001 All right, let's kick it real old school.

There's a new song that hit the music charts this day in 1908 This is the original singer

We're not going to talk.

He's saying this into a toilet roll in a

hallway.

Yes, take me

out to the ball game.

A brand new waltz was released this day in 1908 by Jack Norwith and Albert Von Tisler.

It would become the unofficial anthem of baseball, although at the time neither man had attended a baseball game before writing the song.

Love that.

Let's see, baseball related things.

You know, it was just last week sometime we mentioned Billy Martin being fired by the Minnesota Twins in what, 1969?

Which time?

He's been fired a lot.

Exactly, after winning the division title.

Well, he went on to other things in 1974 on this day.

He was named manager of the year working for the Texas Rangers.

But five years later on this day in 1979, Billy Martin was once again managing the Yankees and got into a fight with Marshmallow salesman Joseph Cooper at a hotel in Bloomington down the road from the old Met Stadium.

Cooper said Martin shouldn't have won manager of the year.

Martin took a little offense to it.

Martin bet the Marshmallow salesman $500 that he could beat him up.

Cooper took the bet.

Martin won the bet by beating him up, but it cost him his job.

George Steinbrenner fired him as Yankees manager a few days later.

that's purely a story that can only happen in baseball like in the 60s and 70s and before like in the 90s that ain't happening anymore like

that is that is old school bar brawling right yeah one one more song on today's history lesson Taylor Swift yes she's back again but this time we're going way back 2006 she released her self-titled debut

album

I wrote these during her freshman year of high school and that song Tim McGraw was a top 20 single and the album would peak at number five on the album chart and become the longest charting album of the two thousands in the U.S.

logging 157 weeks on the chart by 2009.

There.

I

hope she makes it other country records someday, someday.

Do you think she remembers how?

That's the big question.

She's too talented to forget.

All right, we'll wrap things up with Santana and pause here.

I'm Pat Critello from Up North News and this is the Civic Media Radio Network.

Nice to have you back on a Friday morning.

It's October 24th.

Parker Olson's here producing this shindig.

Greg Bach is standing by down in beautiful Radial Park in Racine from Matt Nair on air from 9 to 11 today.

And guys, the Up North News daily newsletter that you can sign up for at UpNorthNewsWI.com has a new feature on Friday, Locals Love.

And this week's theme is Locals Love, their local burgers.

who's got the best burgers around town.

And so here's some of what was sent in.

From Mike, he suggested the keg stand bar and grill in St.

Germain.

Fresh hamburgers are cooked in the bar right there in front of you.

Let's see from Ellen.

There's Rachel's Roadside Bar and Grill in Wittenberg.

I believe Robin Tigerton talks about Rachel's road.

Yes, quite a bit.

Yes.

Hi, Rob.

Well, so but this comes from Ellen.

So now we've got two votes here for Rachel's roadside.

Clearly, I got to stop at Wittenberg.

Talks about the cheese curds that are there.

Oh, Christmas curds, a variety of cheese curds with added sweet flavor, a French onion soup with cheese curds.

And then there's the Witten burger, a half pound burger with sauteed mushrooms and onions, smoke and barbecue sauce, and melted cheese curds.

Oh, gee.

I know I felt my arteries tighten up too.

But how far is Wittenberg from you, Pat?

Oh, it's quite a ways.

It's, you know, it's over near Sean.

Oh, I got you.

All right.

On that part of state on 29 here.

See, so I'll rattle off some more of these a little bit later on.

But we've talked about this a time or two where your favorite burger joints are.

And I just last night had one of my favorites up at Jake's Jimtown bar and grill in Jim Falls.

Excellent.

burger night specials like the $2 burgers or whatever they are.

And they're not something that just, you know, fell off the Cisco truck.

This is this is good stuff.

So yeah, we love having your suggestions, feel free to throw them in the comments sections of Facebook or YouTube or get on that civic media app and tell us more.

Mr. Parker, what's on the National Day calendar for today?

Well, I feel like we should commemorate all of these burger places with saying it's food day.

It's National Food Day.

Okay.

All right.

No, I'm sorry.

Yeah.

That's like, Hey, it's national shoe day or national oxygen day or yeah, exactly.

National.

I'm standing up day.

Like it's come on.

Okay, general is all right.

It's national baloney day.

Is that better?

This whole thing's baloney.

Okay, so it's national food day, but it's also national baloney day.

Yes.

Tell you a fun fact about baloney.

Sure.

Please.

Uh, so from first grade to eighth grade, I had a bologna sandwich every day at school every single day.

I never ate anything with bologna sandwiches.

It was

the

thing that my mom knew I would eat and she made them every day or I made them at every day too.

But that was the only sandwich I would eat in, in grade school and middle school bologna sandwich, two slices, slap between two pieces of wonder bread.

And yet Scott Walker got elected governor and you didn't.

So clearly ham sandwiches are the way that you should have gone.

That's how

I

failed.

I'm a turkey guy.

You're a turkey guy.

I'm a turkey guy, turkey and cheese.

There you go.

There you go.

All right.

All right.

And in entertainment news for a Friday, Mr. Olsen, what's happening?

Yes, yes, yes.

We have actress Mariska Hagerte.

Hargitay.

Hargitay.

Thank you.

No idea how to read that.

Law and

Order.

Yes.

SvU.

SvU.

Law and Order.

We can keep naming stuff.

She was doing sitcoms for a while.

But apparently a psychic told her that comedy wasn't going to make her famous.

And then six months later, she was on law and order.

So a psychic did this.

The

most uncomedy

movie show

ever.

I know.

Talk about a turn.

Yeah, I want to know what these comedies are that she did now because I don't I wouldn't buy it either.

Clearly she found her role.

She found her lane.

And her mother was Jane Mansfield, right?

Yeah, exactly.

I think it was, she's like the prototype, her and Marilyn Monroe of the, of the quote, blonde bombshell.

I'm saying all that cause I want to sound respectful in the term, not be like, yeah.

No, no, not at all.

She recently did some kind of a documentary about her mom, Shane Mansfield as well.

Okay.

I got another one for us Parker.

We've also got Adam driver.

If you are a Star Wars fans that he played Kylo Ren in the sequel trilogy.

He was also a megalopolis.

Thank you.

Sorry.

Anyone?

No one?

National Food Day.

What?

Okay.

Sorry.

No.

He and another writer were working on a film that would have been just about his character would have taken place after the sequel trilogy.

And Lucasfilm loved it.

They presented it to Disney and they said they liked it, but they don't see how he could be alive, which is hilarious coming from somehow Palpatine returned.

great, a great, wonderful fact about Adam Driver.

He is a Marine Corvette.

Yeah.

And after he got out of the service, he dedicated his life to theater, but also to helping vets find themselves and express themselves through acting.

So he has a program where he works with vets and theater and it's amazing.

I think he did a TED talk about it.

I'm not sure about it was TED talk, but he did do a talk about his time in the service and what he did after using his love for theater for vets and healing.

I think I've seen that TED talk.

It's really interesting.

He is just so intense.

you know, and, and so I'm trying to imagine instead, what if the follow up is like, is more like a sitcom.

And he's doing, he's doing that, you know, just this just the home life him and Ray, you know, because the war is over and everything is great.

And maybe Mariska Hargitay is is the mother in law or something, and they can all play against type.

Would you watch that?

Well, it's it can't be worse than a lot of things that Star Wars has put out.

So I mean,

oh, no.

All right.

You hurt him.

You hurt Parker.

It

makes me sad.

I did not.

What's happened to start?

There's so much good, but they've made it so bad.

Yeah.

Tony on YouTube.

I love Adam Driver just from his SNL skits alone.

Yes.

And again, playing against type.

And I love seeing that.

It's, it's what I call the Leslie Nielsen theory who did nothing but dramas until airplane came along.

And, you know, then it was working out.

Oh, yes.

The Tony says the undercover boss SNL skier with Kylo Ren.

That was comedy gold.

I actually the take your father to work day with where he's the oil bear.

And that's my favorite one.

That's that one is just great.

So

so many

good ones.

Greg Bach joining us and you can hear more of him on Matt Naranair along with Jane Mattener coming up nine to 11 today.

And well, frankly, every weekday, right?

We pay you for all five of those.

do you do?

Yes.

Okay.

This now Tony's going to remind us like, you guys get paid?

Like, yeah, believe it or not.

It's it's it's allowed.

We'll see if we can get away with it for two more hours right after this on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Hey, good morning, 706.

Nice to have you back here on a Friday morning.

It's October 24th.

Parker Olson producing things down in Madison Studio A2 in Madison right now.

Let's see, it's 28 degrees, 28 degree in Madison right now.

It's 23 here in the Chippewa Valley.

It is 23 right now in Hayward, 32 in Wasaw, 30

in Oshkosh.

And coming up this hour, we will have our Week in Review panel, former US Attorney Jim Santel, along with journalists Jennifer Schulze and Mark Jacob.

We got we got things to talk about, you know, like the complete destruction of the White House East Wing.

We've got a president who's bombing boats in both oceans.

probably without legal justification on that.

Oh, we've got plenty of other things to talk about as well.

There's the whole government shutdown and whether anything is changing on that front.

So all of that still to come.

And then one hour from now, Dr. Kristen Lyrely will be dropping in, I believe from Pittsburgh where she was attending a conference and

by a pleasant coincidence.

That's also where the Packers are playing this weekend against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

And so she will be reporting on heading to the game to see the Packers taking on Aaron Rodgers for the first time.

Of course, she's already put into the rotation someplace here on one of these computers lying around civic media.

The Dr. Kristen Lierley show, and you can hear that.

tomorrow at noon across the Civic Media radio network, or you can follow as a podcast, subscribe over at Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts.

But as for the Packer game against the Steelers, well, coverage will begin Sunday at 5pm.

Remember, it's a Sunday night game kickoff is at 720.

And so you've got coverage beginning at five o'clock.

on some of the stations of the Civic Media radio network.

And then tonight, there's Badger Men's Basketball, an exhibition game against Oklahoma at Milwaukee Spicer.

Forum coverage will begin at 6.30 tonight on stations in Richland Center, Amory, Wisconsin Rapids, and Rippon.

Again, civicmedia.us to learn more.

From WisPolitics comes word of another potential.

candidate for Congress up north here in the Seventh Congressional District.

Again, with politics with the story that says that former Republican State Senator Dewey Strobel, who has represented the legislature from the Milwaukee suburbs, tells with politics that he's been approached and has been having conversations about running in the seventh CD.

Strobel says he's had a home in the 7th CD for nearly 25 years.

Now, I don't know if that's a cabin, if it's a full-on second home, vacation home, but he's had some kind of property in the 7th CD for 25 years.

And so he says he's getting calls from people interested in seeing him run for the seat that's going to be vacated by Tom Tiffany, who is now running for governor.

Strobel says,

quote, I think I'm a proven conservative that stays true to their values that are important, frankly, throughout the state.

If he runs, it would be the second time Dewey Strobel's run for Congress after he unsuccessfully sought a spot in the fifth congressional district, you know, where he lives in Salkville.

Whether folks in the seventh congressional district would take kindly to somebody, you know, coming up from the Milwaukee suburbs and saying, I'm here to be your congressman.

remains to be seen.

But again, things are much more fluid in the 7th District right now.

There are people who, you know, have expressed interest in running on the Republican side.

There is an announcement on the Democratic side.

Fred Clark, former legislator, is running for Congress up there now in the 7th District, which again is a

But it's a gerrymandered district to begin with.

And again, that's that's my fault for the Republicans gerrymandering the maps to protect Sean Duffy when I ran against him in 2012.

So it is a heavier Republican district than it used to be when Dave Obey was representing it for 40 some years.

But you now have a president with historically low favorability numbers and the potential for midterm elections that

really don't go well for the party in power.

Traditionally, they don't go well for the party that's in the White House.

Now, again, in this era of Citizens United and corporate money flooding in, you know, all bets are off.

But the way that things stand right now, that district should no longer be considered unwinnable by a Democrat.

Frankly, any district shouldn't think back to 2006, when there was a similar

Democratic wave when people were very frustrated with George W. Bush and the war in Iraq and suddenly you had legislative districts flip in Wisconsin that hadn't flipped in 80 to 90 years where people said that you know the party in power has been there just a little too long getting a little too full of themselves too big for their britches and voters made a change and that very well could be happening next time as well.

But again, we got to see who the candidates are.

And that's where I put out this caveat as well.

Anybody can say they're running for office at this point.

You don't actually become a candidate with your name on the ballot.

until sometime next year.

To get on the ballot, it's a process of collecting signatures on petitions.

They're called nominating petitions.

You go to door-to-door or, you know, you wrangle people as they're coming out of the grocery store and say, here, will you sign this petition?

It doesn't mean you're gonna vote for that person.

It just means you're signing this petition that says, yep, you could be on the ballot.

And then if you get enough signatures, and there have been candidates in the past who say they're running for something,

and then failed to collect enough signatures to qualify to get on the ballot.

Those petitions can't even be circulated until I believe April 15th of next year.

And I believe the deadline is June 1st of next year.

So it's June 1st when we will really know who is going to be on the ballot and who won't.

And of course, there will be a primary in August, again, August 11th of next year.

And I can't stress enough the importance of keeping that August primary in mind.

There are gonna be

I would dare say as many or more primaries, contested primaries than we might have ever seen here with congressional district primaries, legislative district primaries, and of course, primary for governor as well.

So folks are either going to be looking for you to vote on August 11th or to take part in early voting, either in person at your clerk's office or voting by mail.

And before you do all that, keep in mind that there are certain politicians out there

that don't want you to have that right anymore.

They want to strictly limit voting by mail.

They want to get rid of convenience measures like absentee ballot drop boxes.

Some politicians are even willing to move absentee ballot drop boxes to keep you from using them, it seems.

So remember that next year that when we get caught up in all of the

political ads, and political ads will say all kinds of wild, wacky things, you know, stick to the fundamentals of what this person's record is, what this candidate's promises have been, and then make your decision accordingly.

But again, up in the 7th District, the newest story there is the potential for a suburban Milwaukee legislator to say that he's going to be running up in Northern Wisconsin.

We've got some high school football playoff action on some civic media stations coming up later today.

And then we've got Badger football coming up this Saturday.

Coverage begins at four o'clock on several civic media stations before the Badgers take on Oregon in a game on Saturday night.

Then some other sports that you might not have heard about previously, the Badger women's hockey team, they will be playing at home in Madison at LaBona Arena Saturday and Sunday at 2pm.

They will be hosting Minnesota State Mankato.

The Badger women's hockey team is now 8-0.

The number one ranked team in the country.

Five of those eight wins have been shutouts.

The Badger Women's Volleyball team is 13 and three ranked ninth in the country and they are playing out West late tonight.

They're in Washington.

They will take on the Huskies at nine o'clock.

You can catch that game on the Big Ten Network.

The Milwaukee Bucks are in Toronto to take on the Raptors.

530 is the start time there.

Guard Kevin Porter Jr.

will miss the game with a sprained left ankle.

And then finally we have the World Series Game 1 tonight.

It'll be the LA Dodgers hosting the Toronto Blue Jays starting on Friday.

And so it's where we we turn to noted baseball expert Parker Olson, who is not just a show producer, but is a prognosticator as well.

LA Dodgers, we know what a juggernaut they look like.

They going to take this thing or is Toronto going to play the role of David versus Goliath?

I don't.

No, they're hang on.

We're not saying David versus Goliath here.

They're

both top five payrolls, Pat.

Okay.

Okay.

Goliath versus Goliath Jr.

How's that?

Thank you.

I think it'll be really interesting to see if the Blue Jays bats can keep as hot as they've been.

They've had some really big moments.

I think they can probably get a, I think they're going to win at least two games.

I am

hoping

with all my

being that they beat the Dodgers and win the World Series because I cannot.

Realistically, you're saying Dodgers and six.

Probably.

Okay.

It makes me sad.

I know.

It just it helps remove some of the pain of what the Brewers did.

But yeah, for now, we're on Team Canada when it comes to this.

I don't even care that the Brewers lost to the Dodgers.

I just don't like the Dodgers as an organization.

Sure.

And

it's

weird to say that this year because actually I think they have a lot of really likable guys this year.

I think this is when they're more likable teams ever.

I like that you're so emotionally torn on the Dodgers.

One moment you're channeling Kylo Ren.

Yes, let the hate flow through you.

Yeah.

Other times it's like, oh, they're a cute little fluffy team.

They're a bunch of lovable scamps, little Dodgers.

I like Shohei.

I like Freddie

Freeman.

They don't have Manny Machado.

That's a good

thing that is very key that they don't have Manny Machado anymore that that does make them

infinitely more likable as a result.

So Game 1 of the World Series will get started tonight.

Coming up later today across the Civic Media Radio Network, Matt Nair on air.

We just had Greg Bach here.

He and Jane Matt Nair will be along at 9 o'clock and just after 10 o'clock, they will be talking to Dan Schaefer from the Reconpopulation Area and Civic Media's political editor.

And I don't know what's on the docket, but based on Dan Schaefer's latest commentary,

I sense that it might also include the forthcoming expansion project for I-94 going right through the middle of Milwaukee.

Dana's been a longtime critic of the proposal to expand to add another lane.

You know this whole notion of you know just

paving your way to prosperity.

Let's just add an eighth lane and a ninth lane.

And maybe that'll finally do the trick.

Dan has a lot to say about what our transportation system should look like around Wisconsin and specifically through the Milwaukee area.

So be on the lookout for that.

Then on the Maggie Dawn Show later, coming up at four o'clock.

She will be talking to State Senator Kristen Dessler Althheim, and they will be talking about the latest increases in price, the big increases in price, coming to health insurance plans that are purchased on the marketplace through the Affordable Care Act.

And she will talk a bit more about insurance coverage in Wisconsin, are there things the legislature can do to make sure that insurance covers more things that it should?

and then the whole crisis of insurance companies that are hiking prices because they're not getting the support that we used to get from Congress and the federal government.

That's what's led to this shutdown that is continuing that Republicans could end today if they just wanted to keep the rest of you and all Americans from experiencing huge spikes in health insurance premiums.

They have the opportunity to do that, but would rather see pain inflicted, including sharply reduced SNAP benefits.

And I've just written a story about that that you can find on our website, UpNorthNewsWI.com.

I'm Pat Critello from UpNorth News.

Our Week in Review panel is coming up here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Coming up tomorrow morning, you can hear Amicus a law review with former U.S.

Attorney Jim Santel.

Saturday mornings 9 to 11, replayed on Sunday.

Learn more at CivicMedia.us.

You can also subscribe to Indistinct Chatter from Jennifer Schulze on Substack.

Search for at news Jennifer.

And of course, Mark Jacob has his Stop the Press's newsletter, stopthepresses.news, and also through couriernewsroom.com.

And this week, his column is entitled, My Exclusive Trump Era Tour Inside the Media's Brain.

What were America's journalists thinking?

I have strong suspicions.

This one is a must read.

And I bring up those three people because those three people constitute our week in review panel.

And they are joining us now, including a very frozen Michelle Z who may be in in Chicago land where I'm guessing it's about 35 36.

But that is not sitting well with you.

No, man, I wasn't ready for this.

I know, I know it's the end of October, but it's too cold.

I said, Alicia writes, I share Jennifer's horror at the cold weather and Alicia's up in one of the warm spots in the state right now with temperatures in the, in the mid 30s, you know, it's 19 and

hayward right

now.

So this is what's coming.

You, you knew what you were getting into when you agreed to live here in the great American Midwest.

I, you know, that doesn't make her feel anybody like, Yep, I signed up for this.

I get it.

So, Mark, we're gonna, we're gonna talk about your column about the media's brain in just a little bit here.

And Jennifer, we're gonna get to demolition of the White House.

But we got to start with something a little more tongue-in-cheek here because otherwise just kind of gets depressing.

And Jim Santel, I recall this president and then a secretary of defense talking all about how, you know, we can't have any more fat generals and everybody's got to shape up.

And meanwhile, they're recruiting like crazy for ICE, you know, Trump's own little secret police force.

How they doing over there?

Apparently not well, not surprisingly.

There are apparently some lying, believe it or not, going on in applications about everything from background to all physical status.

And many of the recruits, so to speak, cannot run a mile, cannot do some push-ups, some sit-ups within, admittedly, it's a 14 or 15 minute period.

but still major major problems here athletically and as a result we've got folks who are sitting around at desks who cannot be out there presumably waiting for their termination notices for those to happen.

This is a tongue-in-cheek story in the midst of everything else that is disastrous in America.

On the other hand it's a reflection of

wild rank incompetence, which is what we've also seen in this administration.

And it explains what I've often questioned myself, which is, who are these people?

We're out there now doing this work that I could never imagine former ICE agents doing.

And that's your answer.

They're not qualified.

They're not competent with due respect intellectually in terms of their backgrounds.

And now it turns out that we're putting people on the streets who are physically, again, giving them guns and physically unable to do this job.

This is a serious matter.

Again, overlaying all the other problems with the ice action.

I think that there was an image problem already with things that this administration was doing.

But then Jennifer, you take a president promising not to cause any harm to the White House in adding some glitzy new ballroom.

And what started as tearing down the facade turned into tearing down the whole freaking east wing of the White House.

And I just, I don't know that that

You know, the the national media is covering this and again, I get that it's it's just a structure But I still think Jennifer if this were say Barack Obama showed up with bulldozers.

I I think the impeachment hearings would already be underway

There's so many things wrong with what's happening and I think how it's being covered.

It's hard to know where to start I would like to say though it happened very quickly

We went a week ago to from we're going to do some remodeling to do build this ballroom to it is completely gone.

I was in Washington for the last couple of days.

You can't see it from the street.

But the people and I couldn't see it from my flight.

But some people took pictures flying out of DC yesterday from the air.

You can see it is just it's completely gone.

So.

Again we went from I'm just going to do a little tweaking here to gone and not going through any of the proper procedures and the cost too is going to be 200 million.

Now it's who knows and Apple's helping pay for it.

The whole thing is a mess and I think people are rightly concerned about it.

Well, the fact that the Treasury Secretary has told those employees in the building just adjacent, when you look out your windows, keep your phones down, that again, we call that revelation of guilt.

If you're proud of this, if there's nothing to be putting aside here,

You'll let people do that.

That also speaks volumes about what this administration is doing.

Jim Colbera last night said that they weren't letting them take any pictures so they could claim that the East Wing hanged itself.

Yes,

right, right.

You can always get in an Epstein file reference there.

But Mark, this is not just a metaphor in and of itself, but to Jennifer's point, a candidate in Trump who says one thing and says, I'm just going after the bad guys, but now is rounding up every housekeeper, every childcare provider, every day laborer, so much for going after just the terrorists.

I mean, this is very par for the course for this guy.

Well, this is what astounds me as far as news coverage that

You've got a guy who's been lying to you for a decade Yet every day he comes out and says something new and you act as if this might be the one time he's telling the truth and you tell your audience Well, here's what he said, you know, you know part of being good journalist is learning from experience and this guy is a liar I mean the the East Wing thing is a stark example of that and and the New York Times actually helped him lie

by saying, well, you know, and nobody thought at the time that it was realistic that they'd leave the East Wing alone.

All right, so we knew he was lying then, so it's okay, he's lying now.

apparently.

There's just such a difference in how everyone else is judged and how Donald Trump is judged.

It's a pattern and patterns are worthy of being reported on.

We will continue the conversation here with Mark Jacob and Jennifer Schulze and Jim Santel coming up in just a bit.

I'm Pat Critello from Open North News.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

Our Week in Review panel coming up in just a bit and then in the next hour Dr. Kristen Lierly and also Mike Clemens will join us to talk a little sports.

Next week on the program we'll talk to Lucy Rip from a Better Wisconsin Together.

We'll talk to Jim Renneke from the Friends of the Apostle Islands.

We'll talk to Ruth Conniff from the Wisconsin Examiner and we'll visit with

Ingrid Cunninger, sorry to never last name in front of me here, Ingrid Cunninger with the Greater Wisconsin Agency on Aging Resources.

There are all kinds of folks who are having to find new Medicare Advantage plans because

their current ones are being dropped.

And so we'll talk more about the resources that are available in finding a new Medicare plan for yourself, or maybe you are a caregiver or an adult child to a parent.

So that will be coming up all those guests and more next week.

All right, I'm joined once again by former US Attorney Jim Santel, Mark Jacob, Jennifer Schulze, and Mark, we're going to start with you because your latest stop the presses newsletter.

has the title my exclusive Trump era tour inside the media's brain.

What were America's journalists thinking?

I have strong suspicions.

It's a it's a very fascinating timeline that captures the the collective thought of the national media.

Tell us more.

Yeah, it was I was trying to explain the whole media evolution here, you know, how the media was fascinated by Trump and

And in 2016 and 2015, they were using it to get a Trump bomb.

If you remember, the CBS CEO declared it may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS.

And how the media then became aghast that the American public was embracing all these bigoted comments and crazy comments by Trump that they won.

And then the media said, it's not our fault that he won.

And I was just trying to get through the whole mindset.

of then being bored by biden and not there's no biden bump and so they wanted you know and the idea that the media is only out for itself you know in a lot of ways and the way i did it was i kind of imagined you know the old movie fantastic voyage or interspace where people shrink themselves and and go inside a human body and in the same way i was you know exploring the media's brain

You know, and and so, uh, you know, and having worked in the media for 40 years, I think I have a pretty good idea of why the media does bad things.

Uh, well, and it explains it so well in just a whole bunch of short little statements like, you know, 2015, Trump is running for president.

We'll cover him as a Carney show 2016.

Trump just invited the Russians to interfere in our elections.

He's kidding, right?

Uh, 2018, let's not call his lies lies.

That'll make us look mean.

2020, Trump is lined out about COVID, but let's save it for the book.

Just all these little short statements that capture so perfectly where the national media was going with this and why so many of us were tearing out our hair in the process.

And it's still happening.

That's still

happening, yes.

Well, I didn't want to scroll down too far because I thought it might depress me with a spoiler alert.

But again, for the whole thing, stopthepresses.news.

And Jennifer, we laugh only to mask the pain of watching so many national newsrooms do exactly the kinds of things Mark is talking about.

Well, I told Mark how much I appreciated his column, but that it also really depressed me.

But I do think there's a value in

Seeing the history laid out that way and a reminder like we know generally right though We don't like a lot of things about how Trump is covered, but then when you see it year by year or for 10 years You know, it's like a kick in the head again like chase Right because we do live in sort of short attention span

a short attention span world right now and so I really like what Mark did and it left me just a puddle on the floor.

The short attention span could not capture it better because just early this morning I saw a report about how all these rich guys and hedge funds are trying to raise money from one another to help feed the hungry around the world.

We had something doing that USA ID But that's like in the distant past now that the outrage has completely settled down even as people continue starving to death as a result of it But we always have to move on to the next thing in fact Jim Santel former US Attorney the next thing hit us You know this week with Trump giving another one of his pardons to criminals to which I again say

parenthetically, elect a criminal as president, expect the other criminals to be freed from the prison and other people to take their place who are not criminals.

But anyway, he pardoned some some big shot in the cryptocurrency world, where it turns out the Trump administration or the Trump family has some business connections.

And absolutely, this fellow is referred to as CZ.

He is a billionaire.

He's the founder of this cryptocurrency exchange called Binance and the thing that strikes me and I think other people both inside and outside law enforcement, this is not someone who made some modest false statements on some documents reporting to the government what his funding was or what the income was.

This is a fellow engage in rampant money laundering.

That is no small thing way back in 2023.

He serves four months

probably a very light sentence to begin with and we get then this representation that this is in the interest of reversing the Biden

animosity toward cryptocurrency.

We're now opening up our nation to that.

Caroline Levitt says the Biden administration's war on crypto is now over.

It's not a war on crypto, Caroline.

It's a war on crime.

And that's what it was.

That's what this fellow did.

He got a very light sentence.

And now, as you're saying, Pat, it

is obviously clear that he did this and got this huge benefit from the president because of his connections with the family.

President once again reminded I'm sure your listeners know this.

This is one of those things James Madison put in the Constitution completely unchecked.

No capacity to push back on this at all.

No checking whatsoever and is noted by Tommy Vitor from Pod Save America Binance willingly failed to report transactions on its platform by Al Qaeda.

ISIS Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

But then Trump's crypto company made a multi billion dollar deal in partnership with Binance.

And so Trump gave the founder of Binance a pardon.

And he says shockingly brazen corruption.

Well, Mark two out of three ain't bad.

It's it's brazen corruption.