Politicians in Robes Strike Again (Hour 2)

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Now, from our Lake WSOTA studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Craiglow.

Well, hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

It is Friday, September 12th, 2025.

It is another beautiful morning to have you here up north, live from Lake WSOTA, from wherever you're listening across the Civic Media radio network.

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We love having all of you here to wrap up the work week.

I got a question for you.

And it's actually not about last night's Packer game.

It's, would you like to go to at least one more Milwaukee Brewer's game?

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Coming up on the program today, President Trump finally approves disaster relief for flash flood victims in Southeast Wisconsin, but only after telling another lie about the 2020 election.

We'll talk to Courier Newsroom's Keva Keel at 622 about the ongoing effort to tone down the violent rhetoric in the wake of this week's political violence.

We'll ask former US Attorney Jim Santel at 722 to make it make sense.

The same US Supreme Court

that says race cannot be a consideration for college admissions, says race can be an issue in deciding whether law enforcement can pull over, harass, or even detain people they only suspect of not being citizens.

We'll ask journalists Mark Jacob and Jennifer Schulze at 735 about the coverage of the Charlie Kirk murder, especially the double standard that accompanies the sanewashing taking place about Kirk's place in American political discourse.

Just after 8 a.m., we're gonna ask Dr. Kristen Lierly about not a doctor, Robert Kennedy Jr.

and the misinformation he's spreading about autism and Tylenol.

And Mike Clemens will help us review last night's Packers' win over Washington, 27 to 18, a great game, but comes with at least one noteworthy injury.

as well.

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In Studio A2 we find Parker Olson, who, like a lot of us, stayed up a little bit past our bedtime.

But by and large, it was worth it, Mr. Olson.

Would you agree?

Oh, I would definitely agree.

It was a good cause supporting the Packers.

It always is a good cause.

You have to support your Packers.

This is why we're fans,

Pat.

your support can sometimes get to be a little emotional.

And that's why I would like to have for everybody's benefit, a dramatic reinterpretation, if you could go back in time, about five, six minutes or so, when you heard off air, that when Jaden Reed went down with that injury in the end zone, you did not know until five minutes ago, he broke his collarbone.

No, I didn't.

I was unaware.

I'm still sad.

This is not good.

But we don't have a wide receiver.

We don't have wide receiver one.

We don't have a. So it doesn't.

I don't think it matters that much for the team, but it is obviously nice.

I like Jaden Reed.

Jaden Reed is

great.

But the the.

I don't know.

I was going to say the hero of the game, the surprise of the game, the breakout of the game, tight end Tucker Kraft.

OK, holy cow.

That he's good.

Tucker Kraft is quite possibly my favorite football player of all time.

He just like kind of epitomizes what I think of football, like good football.

Cause when I think football, I think very Midwestern, I think like down and dirty, run the ball, tight ends, big tight ends, blocking, but he can catch too, which is really cool.

And he's just so fun.

Isn't he awesome?

Oh, yes.

And the thing is, and again, I'm not doing fantasy football this year.

I've done it in the past.

So I know that one of the difficult things is it's one thing to have your quarterback and who's going to be your wide receiver, who's going to be your running back.

Tight ends are a little tougher deal because they're

a

combination of players, basically.

Yeah.

And, you know, if you get if you get the maybe two, maybe three good ones on the team, you know, you're still you're doing okay.

But beyond that, it's tough.

So anybody who has

Tucker Kraft and then started him yesterday.

They're happy campers because he he had quite the breakout performance.

Unlike I who started Matthew Golden, who had a whopping 1.5 points.

I'm happy I drafted him.

I probably shouldn't be starting him though.

It was I want to say it was a good thing that Jordan Love tried, you know, tried to go deep as often as he did.

He's got he's got a cannon.

It's just that a lot of them weren't connecting.

But at no point was I looking going, Oh, he's off the mark or the receivers are off the mark.

There was just, there was some good past defense by Washington last night.

Yeah, that's true.

Packers defense though was absolutely incredible.

They haven't given up a hundred yards total yet.

Um, rushing.

I think

it

was 51 to the Lions and 46 last night to the commanders.

Um, and Kisha Nixon had five pass breakups last night.

That's ridiculous.

Yes, yep.

And you know, the commander's quarterback, Jaden Daniels, he's really good.

He was surprisingly good last year, his first year as a starter.

And so it actually was a pretty big deal that the pass rush kept his numbers unusually low.

And so again, all it all finished with the 27 18 win will have more to say about it throughout the course of the morning here.

But the other thing to know is that the Packers now they will not be playing this Sunday, obviously.

So get out and about if you got to do anything because the Packers now have nine days off before the next game.

The mini but it'll be Sunday, September 21st at Cleveland and a noon start and you can hear it across several civil radio stations.

What's that?

My uncle is a Browns fan.

Oh,

well,

What will you watch the game together?

Maybe.

I don't know.

We'll see.

All right.

You've also got the Wisconsin Badgers football team in Alabama for the first time playing tomorrow.

Kickoff at 11 pregame at nine on civic media stations in Richland Center, Amory, Wisconsin Rapids and Ripon.

And I heard Mike Clemens saying before, you know, it's been a long time since the Badgers beat Alabama in 1928.

Well, I looked it up and I mean, the teams have only played.

Yes, before, you know, there was the first game in Madison 1928, the Badgers win 15 to nothing.

And the other was in 2015 at AT&T Stadium home of the Dallas Cowboys when Alabama beat Wisconsin 3517.

So not a deep history.

No, which is, you know what?

That's what I want, though.

This shouldn't be a game that happens very often.

Especially when, yeah, the Badgers are big time underdogs, but that could make the game that much more fun to watch and or listen to.

And the Brewers were off yesterday.

They will be taking on the St.

Louis Cardinals.

Coverage begins tonight at 635 on stations in Richland Center.

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Okay, as mentioned, President Donald Trump was very full of himself yesterday, putting out word on his tiny social media account that he had graciously agreed to something like $30 million in emergency disaster relief for flash flood victims in southeast Wisconsin.

That's a good thing.

It provides certainty for

people who have been putting off getting bids and making plans for fixing the damage because thousands of homes were affected by the flash flooding.

But of course, he couldn't just leave it at that.

It included a line in his tweet about, you know, that Wisconsin, we won big there in 2016, 2020 and 2024, and I'm happy to deliver for the state of Wisconsin.

You didn't win in 2020.

Again, he's still putting the big lie out there.

but at least the funding has been okay.

Another note that I wanted to pass along actually comes out of Brazil, where a panel of Supreme Court justices sentenced the former president, Jair Bolsonaro, to 27 years in prison Thursday after convicting him of attempting a coup to remain in office despite his 2022 electoral defeat.

Bolsonaro was an army captain who became the country's first right-wing president and has always denied any wrongdoing.

He can try to appeal the ruling of the five justices to all 11 justices.

He's currently under house arrest.

Bolsonaro was convicted on charges of attempting to use the military to kill his rival who defeated him in that 2022 election.

That would be the current president, Luis and Anasio Lula de Silva.

Bolsonaro's co-conspirators, three generals, and an admiral were also sentenced for their roles.

So because Bolsonaro was a right winger who would use the military for personal power, you can see where this is going with our own president who attempted a coup, right?

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the administration, quote, will respond accordingly to this witch hunt.

And Trump has already applied a 50% tariff on imported Brazilian goods,

which it said was in reaction to the process against Bolsonaro.

So they're basically admitting that your prices are going to go up for any Brazilian goods for personal and political spite.

Is this some abstract thing for Wisconsin?

Not if you grow soybeans or have anything to do with a bunch of other exports, because Trump's made up trade war with China means, as we learned it yesterday from Sean O'Malley talking about your money in the markets,

China has not yet placed a single order for US soybeans this season.

They bought billions of dollars worth last year.

Where's China going for those soybeans?

Yeah, Brazil.

One of the four justices who voted to convict yesterday said Bolsonaro was the instigator, the leader of an organization that orchestrated every possible move to maintain or seize power.

Don't doubt for a moment,

that their inspiration came from watching Trump less than two years earlier orchestrate and instigate and attempted coup with fake electors, undermining election credibility, trying to strong arm state officials to falsify election results, flood the courts with meritless lawsuits, and when all that failed, summon a mob, that included Derek Van Orden, and whip it into a violent frenzy.

It fell short.

Bolsonaro came a little bit closer.

Now, in the good old days, you could understandably say, well, the Brazil case is different in that he plotted to kill his opponent, except that Trump has now appointed Supreme Court justices who were literally asking if he could use SEAL Team 6 to kill an opponent.

And they answered, sure, why not?

So long as he feels it's part of his official duties.

So the lesson to draw is simple.

Voters can restore a democracy and defeat authoritarians, but expect resistance again.

And so this time be ready to defend our government and our democracy with real consequences for anyone who tries to plot the next coup against our nation.

I'm Pat Critello.

You're up north.

622 now on this Friday morning and courier newsrooms.

National political editor Kia Vakil is with us now.

Kia, how are you today?

I'm all right,

Pat.

As can be expected, basically.

My brain's in about 11 million different places, but doing all right.

Yeah, for folks

that don't follow regularly Kia is as national political editor He sees a lot of the copy That's written in the videos that are put out by all of the various state-based outlets of courier newsroom up north news is is one of them and so not only is he seeing all of the events of the week through a state lens, but he's seen multiple versions of them

And Kia, I know one of the themes that we have talked about behind the scenes here is about toning down the rhetoric, which, yes, in Wisconsin we've acknowledged is a little tougher because of the language of Congressman Derek Van Orden, but setting that aside, I feel like by and large, much of the nation remains unified behind the notion of

Don't take an already volatile situation and make it worse with politics right now

Yeah, I think if you went out and surveyed a hundred people in person you'd probably get 80 90% agreement on that I think the problem is is like online is a different story because the social media algorithms that You know have been produced have been created to just

Bring out the worst in people and then amplify that to everyone Really suggest otherwise they suggest that Everyone in the whole country on the right and even some on the left are frothing at the mouth right now and are celebrating this and our Jazz didn't think you know by celebrating this we mean you know the assassination of Charlie Kirk obviously and right it's

I tend to think this is an instance where the reaction online is not at all mirrored by what most people believe in their day-to-day life and people who aren't terminally online.

But yeah, I think we've seen most elected officials.

Certainly every Democratic elected official I've seen has condemned this and called for toning down the rhetoric unless no political violence.

I've seen a lot of Republicans do the same, not all.

You know, we have a man in the White House who has already tried to pin this on the radical left, even though we have literally no information about who the shooter is.

Regardless, assassinating someone for their political beliefs is not a thing that we want to see happen in the US.

I don't agree with Charlie.

I didn't agree with Charlie Kirk on much of anything, maybe not anything at all.

But watching and I made the mistake of watching the video and it was horrific.

And it does not lead anywhere good to have these sorts of things happen to conservatives, liberals, anyone, frankly.

And to have the handful of lawmakers or activists or just fringe accounts online, fueling hate and division and calling for war or revenge is terrifying.

You know Derek van Orden you mentioned he's been one of the more egregious ones I've seen and You know we're reporters.

He clearly does not like us.

He does not like Democrats.

He does not like trans people There's a whole lot of people he doesn't like and he's tried to blame this on and there's one person who deserves blame and it's the person who shot Charlie Kirk and You know, it's

It's just a really sad state of affairs that this is where we are, just like it was sad when Melissa Horton and got killed in Minnesota a couple months ago.

And Governor Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania, the governor's residence was fire bombed in the spring.

And it's a little terrifying.

It feels like we're going through a period of time where political violence is normalized.

Again, I agree with Charlie Kirk on nothing.

He did not deserve to get shot in the neck and get killed that way.

No one deserves that and It's just terrifying that that's where we are as a as a body politic right now

I'm sure I'm gonna bring this up in just over an hour with our weekend review panel when we talk about media coverage But one thing I want to put out there social media wise and we refer to Twitter now X as a dumpster fire and so much of social media can be garbage

But I have always said from the very beginning that these sites YouTube and others have to and must do a better job of guarding against graphic footage being shared so readily.

That was my first exposure to it was the what's called the auto roll feature so that as you're scrolling down through your feed

there's the video right there, not an option, not a warning screen or anything like that.

And I hear these companies say, Well, we're too big, we can't possibly do that.

Well, then there's something wrong here that needs to be fixed.

I

know

people like instant gratification on media, but

Our whole role as journalists, you know, is in part gatekeeper to say, this is too graphic to share, for example.

And so I'm using up your time on my soapbox, but when you saw, you talked about seeing it, same here with no, given no option one way or the other.

Yeah.

And I, it's, I wish I hadn't seen it.

It's.

I've replayed it in my head a lot of times today.

It's not the first clip of someone being killed.

I've seen on X unfortunately There is no shortage of those those clips over the last several years They're all horrifying every one of them feels like it chips away at our humanity a little bit Whether it's someone I like or agree with or no or don't know it's all horrifying and yeah, I think these companies just

in every single way are just catastrophically responsible for a lot of where we're at politically.

A lot of politicians are as well, but I think the way we just treat human life with such callous disregard at this point, a lot of it can be tied to social media and both what it incentivizes and then what it amplifies to people, especially in moments like this.

It really again comes down to something that we've been talking about since the start of Courier Newsroom and Up North News and that is looking for those trusted sources, fact-based, credible, and frankly folks who aren't going to

put that kind of stuff right in front of you.

There are other ways to inform without having to use shock value and we are very fortunate to have you amongst others as our editors to keep us on the straight and normal for that path.

If you have a Keel Career Newsroom's National Political Editor, thanks for the visit.

I hope you have a good weekend.

Thanks, YouTube Pat.

Back with today's history lesson in just a moment.

You're up North.

You

know, there's admittedly not a lot of female artists that fit right there on the Yacht Rock playlist, but Maria Moldauer.

Right there with something like how smooth is midnight at the Oasis Maria Moldauer has a birthday today.

She turns 83 years old today Welcome to today's history lesson on a Yacht Rock Friday where we we cannot set sail as the Kraitlo Yacht Rock pontoon does every Friday here on a sea of sarcasm without Greg Bach joining us as well.

Mr. Bach.

Good morning.

Hello, everybody.

I'm in charge of poop deck

How are you did you stay up late for the whole game?

I stayed up late for none of the game I went to bed very early because I was it was yesterday was a very long day and then I came home and

One of the I'll bring it up again one of the things about using the CPAP now

is when

you do fall off sleep on that couch It's no

longer like

oh god.

It's like no.

I'm actually just really tired.

I need to go to bed.

Yes.

Yeah What you got to get that rest where you can and I'm always thankful when the Packers get comfortably to a point as they did early in the fourth quarter.

Yeah, where it's like

All right, this is looking good.

And if they blow this, I don't want to be awake to watch it anyway.

I'll just I'll just see it in the morning.

So it worked out all right.

Let's see.

Today's history lesson includes the Constitutional Convention.

This day in 1787 is when Delegate George Mason suggested adding a Bill of Rights to the Constitution.

But the motion was defeated.

They later became the first 10 amendments to the Constitution four years later.

All right, we're yes.

Yes, mr. Bob.

I was gonna

say Pat really quick fun fact Yes, the word amendment comes from the word amend

which means to change, which means you can change the Constitution if you wanted to.

I'm just putting that out there.

Fun fact, English.

Yes, yes, we really could.

Well, regulated militia.

Yeah.

So we're getting to the part of the history lesson now here in mid September with a lot of TV premieres.

And, you know, you don't have the catchy theme song so much as you do, you know, or did back in the olden days like this iconic theme from a show that premiered.

NBC this day in 1959.

Bonanza premiered on September 12, 1959.

It was the first regularly scheduled TV program presented in color.

And again, again, we make so much of this about generations,

but

Hold on hold on hold on don't get that look Parker looking off into the middle distance.

That's

that's the one

What did you have did you just look at drawings upon the screen back in the day?

How did you take in your television entertainment?

Hmm.

They must have had to read the newspaper to be entertained

Nobody told Parker about the days when only radio was the medium of entertainment.

Yes.

And then we went from black and white to color.

But we see that still in.

You just talked about watching Hogan's Heroes and the first like season was in black and white.

The first season of Gilligan's Island was in black and white.

So you can always see where the dividing line is for all these.

Why the Flintstones were in black and white initially.

I don't know.

That one doesn't seem to make sense to me.

But they were

pencils.

Yes.

Bonanza anyway was set in the 1860s.

and centered on the wealthy Cartwright family who lived in the vicinity of Virginia City, Nevada, bordering Lake Tahoe.

You probably know it better as Yellowstone.

They just added more sex and violence later.

The Dutton's before the Dutton.

So Bonanza is another.

is another Yellowstone prequel series.

That Taylor shared it.

I mean, knew what he was doing up, you know, his

60, 60 year old white man around the country.

Like I knew it.

I just, I can't see a Hassan little Joe saying, you know, take him to the train station.

It just doesn't, doesn't work that way.

Another premiere.

Let's move up to 1966.

This was another NBC premiere and a theme everybody

knows.

So

there was the four actors chosen to portray a pop band based on the Beatles.

While the monkeys are a fictional band, they did become very real and eventually played on their own recordings, but not in the beginning.

It was studio music musicians prior to

that.

legendary songwriters writing for them too, including Neil Sadaka, Carol King, Neil Diamond.

Yes.

And fun fact, and I've mentioned this before, it was the first concert I ever went to in 1986 for the monkey's 20th anniversary tour with a little known artist up and coming.

No one, he's kind of faded into the distance as in the past like 10 years.

Weird El Yankovic.

Never heard of

him.

Yeah.

Leesh puts on YouTube, and little Joe would later go on to become Pah Angles.

Yes.

He's

just really

stuck in that old daylight.

He's like, just cast me anything in the 19th century.

That's my sweet spot.

Yep.

Hey, it worked.

One more premiere to talk about taxi.

Premiered on ABC this day in 1978.

Oh, I struck a nerve with Greg.

Oh, yeah.

Is this,

oh,

I

love taxi or an OIP old?

Are we going to play the theme?

I didn't queue it up.

I believe that taxi has the greatest theme song ever.

Like

Barton Miller's great.

Oh, no, we had we had this fight last year, Greg.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Taxi had the worst TV theme ever.

There was nothing about it that sounded like a comedy.

It was it was like you were expecting, you know the the cast of You know some other serious drama show to come in now.

There's a great tells me I'm wrong

like the bear or something Yeah

I don't know why like you just can't find nuance in things and like art and and the fact that a New York taxi taxi cab driver in the 70s.

That was hard work, man.

It was hard work.

And then you came to your little space and you found joy and levity, but you still had to go back into the cold world and deal with people.

I think that's the I think that theme song is perfect.

I now

have the theme song if we would like bring it.

I would

I

would I would make a request.

OK, go for it.

Yeah,

yeah,

sorry.

Sorry.

Sorry.

I didn't know this video was gonna be like, oh my god.

Why is it telling me that?

Okay.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

Yeah, technically difficulties.

I love it.

I don't

miss this part.

Yes.

It's a recorder.

Wait for it.

Wait for the low-570s funk to kick in.

Yes.

Come on!

I mean, this, again, this is great for on the yacht, but a 70s taxi cab, it just, it didn't do it for me.

But I liked the range of opinions on this show.

Less recorder and you're good with it, Pat.

Parker, mute your mic.

No one wants to hear this.

I don't need two

against one.

All right, guys.

Well,

you guys have fun playing this music yourself.

I'm out of here.

Come

back, Parker.

We missed you already.

On this day in 1962, President Kennedy delivered at Rice University, the infamous We Choose to Go to the Moon speech.

Nailed that one by 1969.

Let's see, this is the anniversary of the birth of Barry White, born this day in 1944.

See now Greg will do a lot of Michael McDonald impressions.

I didn't know if you were going to go down for Barry or not.

I feel like any unless you can really nail that voice anything is anything less than then.

Yeah, Barry White is disrespectful.

But meanwhile,

I'm like, I just talk about it.

Yeah.

But you know, the one good thing about getting a head cold, if you get the kind of head cold that brings your voice way down when you can do the very only when you're sick and you're like, how come I can't make my voice do this when I'm healthy?

Well, you just can't.

So

I'll do my very white impressions at 5 30 in the morning for about 12 minutes.

Then I have to move

on.

That's your warm up today.

See, brand new commenter on YouTube.

Oh,

boy.

Leaf going, if that hadn't been used in taxi, it would have been the intro to

A soft-born movie on early cinemax.

Leaf off the top rope!

And you know what?

That

film, that film, yes, I said film.

Film, film, yeah.

Would be respected for that.

It's a bold choice.

It's a bold choice.

Leaf, that was beautiful.

Thank you.

The late Neil Pert drummer for Rush was born this day in 1952.

Singer-songwriter Ben Folds is 59 years old today.

Jennifer Nettles from Sugarland turns 51 years old today.

She's

got that kind of, if you took Reba McIntyre and exaggerated it a little bit and like almost too much, she almost gets so...

If you made Reba McIntyre stay real late and record.

Yes, exactly.

Let's see, Emmy Rossum, actress, you know, from Shameless.

She's 39 years old today.

On this day in 1910, the country's first known female police officer, Alice Wells, was appointed by the LAPD.

Again, that was this day back in 1910.

Woke.

Yeah.

Happy birthday to Jennifer Hudson.

She turns 44 years old today.

We've got Sydney Sweeney who turns 28 years old today and has a new movie out today where she portrays a boxer.

Let's see, singer Kelsey Ballerini has a birthday today.

She is 32.

Oh,

let's

see, on the national day calendar, this is chocolate milkshake day.

Oh, approve.

Oh, I like that.

Yeah.

You know, I haven't had a good old fashioned chocolate milkshake.

I mean, I'll get one of McDonald's, nothing against them or anything.

But you know, the kind of talk about it was really rich and chocolatey.

The

key is the key is when they bring the steel

can and pour it into the

glass cup.

Oh, yes, the canister.

Yes.

Yeah, the canister.

Yes.

The way they used to do it.

There used to be all these ice cream places like Bridgeman's and Ferrell's and other places like that.

And we don't have a good ice cream joint like the way that we used to in a lot of

places.

And I think we've had this discussion before too.

If there was one that would be open, actually there's a nice place and we're seeing actually down here downtown.

Oh,

there's some like Olsen's here in Chippewa Falls.

Yeah.

But if nowadays, if that happened, it would just be a bougie, expensive deconstruction of a vanilla milkshake.

That's $14.

Yeah,

there is that.

I know.

Let's see.

This is National Day of Encouragement.

So Parker, go for it.

There you go.

There's your encouragement for the day.

It is, of course, National Police Woman Day.

It's an international stand-up to cancer day.

And then the one I wanted to pick Greg's brain on is this is National Video Game Day.

And that's for any particular reason.

So it really should have been yesterday when we were talking about...

the Atari 2600.

So now we get a call back to yesterday's conversation, bring you drag Greg into it, whether once do or not.

Whether what was your history on video game consoles?

Disappointing pad, I must say.

I, you know, to this day, I feel very left out of the game.

I was I did with Atari.

We had Coleco.

We had Nintendo.

And that was it.

I mean, I have a PS three at home.

We never play it.

I just don't have video games went from Super Mario Brothers where I could solve it in like an hour to now it's like games require 50 hours, 10 to 100 hours of play.

I'm like, I

who can do that?

No, it's

Pac-Man, it was so simple.

You could be dead within 60 seconds.

Pong!

That's a real video game there.

Greg Bak is with us here.

And in our next hour, we will, of course, have our Week in Review panel.

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Welcome back Parker What was your one job during the history lesson

my one job during the history lesson to play the music?

No, okay.

What was your other job during the history lesson

to be a good Listener the

bottom of the screen Parker bottom of the screw.

Oh the entertainment

No, the free ticket Friday.

We forgot to

do

that in the history lesson.

Anyway, catch.

C-A-T-C-H.

Good catch, Pat.

Catch is the keyword.

Yeah.

You have a keyword coming up later on Matt and Aaron, Eric, Greg, don't you?

I do.

We have a keyword coming up during our show.

You're going to download the Free Civic Media app, and then when I give you that keyword, like you've done for this show, you're going to type that word in, text it to us, text it incorrectly.

And you'll be in the ring.

No, I have a question.

No, not texted incorrectly.

Text it in

correctly.

Text it in comma correctly.

My goodness.

It's early.

They're playing Anaheim or they play.

They play.

They're playing the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

No, not anymore.

No, they're not.

No, what?

It's

not a vain.

I'm anymore.

Whatever they are.

Are they just now what are the Los Angeles angels now?

Yeah, now they're actually what they would think they would be.

Yeah.

Okay, so I saw Los Angeles and my apologies to anyone listening yesterday.

or

earlier in the week,

I was saying the Dodgers,

right?

Cause then in the instruction sheet, it just says Los Angeles.

Yeah.

And you go with the schedule.

So there you

go.

Yeah.

It is the Anaheim

Angels.

I'll just change it to Angels,

which by the way, I must say, if you ever have the chance, uh, the Anaheim Angels Stadium, which is just Anaheim Stadium, which I love, there's no sponsor name on there.

It's a beautiful stadium.

It's a great stadium to see baseball.

They got their Disney money takes it down.

Yeah, but

okay.

Wow.

Thanks.

If I if I get get them.

Let's see the milkshake conversation.

Oh, again, catch.

That's the word till 9am.

Different keyword for matinee on air and then more keywords throughout the day more chances to win.

leaf talking about the milkshake day frostop drive in Taylor's Falls still does car side delivery support

herb shake $9 for a large.

Roger says I used to make my own chocolate milkshakes when I was younger and fill a 32 ounce tumbler.

Okay.

Well, hey, do you ever have an egg cream?

No, I've not.

Some people rave about them.

And I'm delicious when they're made correctly.

Yeah, when they're made correctly, they're delicious.

Okay.

So this is the part of the program that's brand new, brand new.

This is where do you watch TMZ at all, Greg?

No,

I have a couple of friends who appear on there.

So I'll

watch it

when they're on there.

And I'll, you know, if I see clips on the internet, have you heard of it?

The internet?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, the show is completely mindless celebrity news and entertainment.

And

part of the reason I like to watch it is it is somewhat reminiscent of our old TV newsroom in that I mean, everybody was kicking stories around and having fun kind of making fun of each other along the way.

And you know, it's nice, they were pitching these stories to Harvey Levin, who would stand up on his soapbox there with his, his little drink cup, and then determine if the stories were good or bad, we're going to get pitched or not.

So I guess I'm going to play the role of Harvey here.

And young Mr. Olson is going to bring to us various entertainment stories.

And we're going to determine if they become our entertainment story of the day.

Can we get this, but

I don't have that.

I'll pull

that.

Okay.

So in the area of entertainment and celebrity news, Mr. Olson, what do you want to put out there first as a potential best entertainment story of the day?

Well, we talked a lot about the Coldplay Kiss Cam, if you remember that whole saga.

There's been developments to the saga.

Were you aware of this, Mr. Critewell?

I was not, Mr. Olsen.

Tell me more.

Well, TMZ, go figure, they have discovered that on that fable summer night, the woman who was caught on camera, allegedly having an affair with the CEO of her company, apparently

Her and her husband, she has a husband.

Yes.

Yes,

we know.

Which I actually don't know if I know, if I remember that or not.

But turns out they were already getting a divorce before this happened.

They were.

Yes.

I did.

I would, I

would check out.

I mean, you know, if, if you're kind of on Splitsville.

Oh, why wouldn't you have a fling with the boss,

right?

But the CEO was married

though, right?

Yes.

Yes.

And the woman, apparently her husband has come out and I'm like, yeah, no, I don't care.

We're getting divorced.

We're filing.

We're going our separate

ways.

The soon to be ex-husband was not nearly as bothered as the soon to be ex-wife because the soon to be ex-wife did not know that she was a soon to be ex-wife until a much more recent event happened in front of millions of people.

All right.

There's

our

Coldplay Kiss Cam development.

You got one more for us?

Oh, sure.

Did you?

Oh, I. So Floyd Mayweather Floyd Mayweather, if you're a member of the boxer, you can't put the gloves down and neither can Mike Tyson, apparently.

No, what?

Yeah, the legendary boxers will despite their age, swing

their walkers at each other.

They will be fighting each other at some time next year.

Mayweather is 48, Tyson is 59, and that's not much younger than Pat.

So this begs the question, Pat, when will you get in the ring?

Who are you fighting?

Will it be someone roughly your age, or will it be someone much, much, much younger like Jake Paul was doing?

Oh, no, no, no.

That wouldn't be happening at all, and especially, you know...

My arm, my arm.

I think it's broken.

I don't think I can do this.

I don't know.

Let me let me think about it here.

Greg, if you had to pick one of those stories, is your story of the day?

Would you would you pick one of those?

I would pick.

Totally.

I would pick the letter Floyd Mayweather versus versus Mike Tyson.

I would just ask, would their gloves be covered in the paperwork that held their assault charges?

there.

That's why we bring Greg Buck in from the top rope.

All right.

Thank you very much, Mr. Buck.

One more entertainment note, Greg.

Greg Garth Brooks has added a

Yeah, your brother.

Garth Brooks is at a second Milwaukee show at the American Family Amphitheater on the Summerfest grounds.

The June 17th show will now be preceded by June 16th show.

Basically now a two night warm up party for Summerfest.

That'll kick off June 18 and run for three weekends.

I think I'm going.

Which which one?

Don't care.

Either

way, both.

Five the money both.

That's right.

That's how it works.

Thank you, Mr. Bach.

Have a wonderful weekend.

Thank you gentlemen.

Have a lovely, lovely day and weekend as well.

As well.

Our weekend review panel is coming up next.

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706 now.

Nice to have you back up north on this Friday morning.

It is September 12th and our Week in Review panel will be coming up in just a bit.

Former U.S.

Attorney Jim Santel will be here.

Journalist Mark Jacob and Jennifer Schulze will be joining us as well.

about an early start to the weekend so listen throughout the day on your local civic media station for a forecast that last I checked seemed to be a pretty promising one for

good chunk of the weekend, maybe some precipitation tonight other than that.

Things are looking real good, plus the Packers won't be playing this weekend since they won yesterday.

So get on out and enjoy the weekend as best you can.

Robin Tigerton, of course, is not taking a day off.

He says it's foggy and 51 degrees and mowed five yards in the Tigerton area.

Two more today.

says, I watched the Packers beat the Commanders, 27-18.

Great win last night.

I'm going to the Tigerton Lions Club steak fry on Saturday night.

Parker Olson's producing this shindig down in Madison Studio A2 and I have to admit, I've been to, you know, charcoal chicken feeds.

I've been to a lot of things.

I don't know that I've actually been to a steak fry where it's just a whole massive amount of steaks on the grill and you grab one of those.

But I would go.

I was going to say, that

sounds like a fantastic idea.

It really does.

You know, it just seems like the ones are either, you know, chicken or brats or, you know, whatever.

But I don't know if they've ever been to a steak fry.

I'm not, I'm not going to be in the Tigerton area this weekend though.

So I'll be on the lookout for a while.

You have

an opportunity here,

Pat.

I know, I know.

So again, if you, if you didn't stay up and I didn't, I didn't.

But the Packers beat the Commanders 27-18 last night.

Jordan Love threw for 292 yards, two touchdowns.

He coupled that with a victory over the Lions on Sunday.

The Packers already have two wins over playoff teams from last season in just a five day span.

And now they have nine days before their next game.

Titan Tucker Kraft had six receptions for a career high 124 yards, including an eight yard touchdown midway through the fourth quarter to crush the commander's attempt at a comeback.

I like that.

The Packers pass rush kept Washington quarterback Jaden Daniels to unusually low numbers.

But the team also suffered a big loss when wide receiver Jaden Reed broke his collarbone in the first quarter, making an amazing 33 yard catch in the end zone.

That should have been a touchdown and was nullified by, uh, how do I put this properly?

A stupid penalty.

There were a couple of, I'll call them soft.

There was, uh, where was the other one where, uh, coach LaFleur lost his mind at a player.

Yeah, no, that

I thought was right on out of the field when he wasn't supposed to.

And oh, I had not.

I don't know.

I've ever seen him that animated angry at a player.

That's probably at a player.

That's probably true.

Yeah.

I think originally he was mad at the officials, then they told him what happened.

And then he turned it on the point.

I didn't see what the player

was.

He really did.

So again, they normally have the next day off.

So he's not whoever that player was.

I didn't.

Take his name down.

He's not running laps today, but I'll bet you next week sometime when they

look

back at the film on that.

Can you imagine if a film session, the way they do after every game, if we had to do that after every show, we had to just go sit in a dark room and Luke Mathers rolls the footage and then stops and starts it and occasionally berates us for what we do and how we did it and how we executed.

How would you like those coaching sessions to change into that?

Wouldn't that be something?

Oh having it just a film room instead.

I

run social media We have a video component.

You can literally roll the film and go.

Yeah.

What was that smirk right there quite low?

What was that about?

No, how what are you suggesting here?

Yeah, right Okay, thankfully we we don't have that problem here.

We'll look right away

in the text line.

I love this idea

I wouldn't mind.

I'm suddenly filled with regret for giving him an idea.

I genuinely think that would be entertaining and possibly actually fun to do like once a week, especially after a week like this.

Get the spirits back

up,

folks.

It could be fun.

It could.

It could also be soul crushing.

Romeo Dobbs touchdown open scoring for the Packers.

Captain Seven play 96 yard drive.

And that included a 57-yard completion to craft, a 14-yard scramble by Love on a third and nine.

Josh Jacobs made it 14-nothing with a two-yard touchdown run to finish a 10-play 92-yard march.

Jacobs finished with 84 yards on 23 carries.

And so now the Packers are off for nine days.

Their next game is Sunday, September 21st, a noon game against Cleveland.

and you'll be able to hear that on several stations across the Civic Media radio network.

Meanwhile, the Badger football team is in Alabama for the very first time playing the Crimson Tide on their home turf.

The pregame begins at nine o'clock on several Civic Media stations.

And the Milwaukee Brewers are back in action after a day off.

They are home against the St.

Louis Cardinals.

Coverage begins this evening at 6.35 on some of the stations of the Civic Media radio network.

But apart from the series this weekend against the Cardinals, there will then be a series of games next week against some team whose name apparently is still in doubt by the elderly host of this program, who grew up with them being called the California Angels.

And then they insisted on becoming the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

And then they were the Anaheim Angels.

And now, apparently, are they just the Los Angeles Angels now?

Is that the... They are just the

Los Angeles Angels now.

I'm not sure that you've got that in the right order, but I do think that those are all true names that they have had.

Those are all true names.

I think I might have that in the right order.

But anyway, the reason I bring that up is the brewers play, again, the Cardinals this weekend, the Angels.

Whatever the heck they are next week, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

Those are all night games, by the way, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

And you have a chance to go to the Thursday night one on us on civic media and get four great seats to do that because it's free ticket Friday.

Normally, we'd put some big intro in

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Okay.

It was California Angels.

Yes.

Then it was Anaheim Angels.

Then it was Anaheim.

Okay.

Then it was Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

Okay.

And then in 2016, they dropped the of Anaheim and they are now simply the Los Angeles Angels, formerly of Anaheim.

Okay.

Why don't they just change their name to not the Dodgers?

I mean,

yeah,

if you could take Los Angeles, you

know, fight against there.

Yeah.

It's a little tough for them.

Yeah.

I mean, look, it's not as bad as the athletics or the A's or whatever.

We're currently the athletics of West Sacramento, some day to be Las Vegas.

They're just

the A's right now.

They don't acknowledge where they are at all.

That's unbelievable

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In today's edition,

If you like to take your dog out and about and maybe want to take your pup for a pint, there are some Wisconsin breweries and beer gardens that welcome dogs.

Nice little story about that.

And it is not too soon to plan your weekend bucket list.

The bucket list has got to include some fall colors and

This newsletter has a link to a story about nine of the prettiest drives that are out there.

So again, it's signed up for the newsletter over at UpNorthNewsWI.com.

Parker, one story that came out this week that I thought was worth mentioning was about the richest people in Wisconsin.

As you know, Forbes puts together a list and for years and years and years and years, we have been telling you that John Menard of Menards

is the richest man in Wisconsin, the richest person in Wisconsin.

No more.

He has been bumped off the list by Diane Hendricks, the chair owner and co-founder of ABC Supply of Beloit.

She now is the wealthiest person in Wisconsin, according to Forbes.

The 78-year-old has a net worth of $22 billion compared to the paltry.

$20 billion that Menard, age 85 of Eau Claire is worth.

Andriks now with being the wealthiest one in Wisconsin is also the 44th wealthiest American.

And Menard is number 48 on the list.

And has been the case in recent years, Wisconsin still has seven billionaires on the Forbes 400 list.

They include Judy Faulkner.

82 years old, worth nearly eight billion dollars, who is the founder of Epic Systems out of Verona.

There's James Cargill, who is one of a dozen heirs to the Minnesota-based Cargill fortune.

The 76-year-old is worth five billion dollars.

Then there are three members of the S.C.

Johnson Company out of Racine, and they are each worth just about five billion dollars.

Let's see.

There's also some folks with some Wisconsin ties, including Tennessee resident Jimmy Haslund, co-owner of the Milwaukee Bucks, who has a net worth of about $8 billion.

Ron Wannick, the founder and chair of Ashley Furniture out of Arcadia, has a net worth of $6 billion.

His son, the current CEO of Ashley Furniture, is also a billionaire.

And last but not least, there's Dick and Liz Eline, co-founders of Pleasant Prairie-based Uline.

And both of them, 80 years old, are worth $6 billion.

Still have $6 billion, despite throwing more money than God into political ads, boosting all kinds of candidates and causes and things like that.

I mean, just adding up the Wisconsin billionaires alone, I should have done that math here.

But I mean, we're, we're talking what $60, $70 billion.

More money

than it should be.

Yes, with just those seven or eight elderly people.

And so when people want to look at somebody down the road who's maybe getting some Medicaid benefits or somebody who maybe is getting a break on their college tuition and saying, that's the problem.

That's where my money is going.

No, we know where your money went.

And we know how to deal with this.

We had a tax code that built up the middle class for the first few decades after World War II.

And then some of those billionaires figured out if they get political power, they get to hoard more of it.

And that's exactly what's happening until the voters change things once again.

Our Week in Review panel is coming up live from the lake.

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I mentioned that the weather is going to be nice, get out and about.

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If you don't want to wait till then.

We talked yesterday about like Lake Geneva taco Fest is going on the fall festival and Eau Claire is taking place this weekend There's the Vernon County Fair the last county fair of the season is going on in Verrocco this weekend and so much more so Get out and about and then take us with you along the way and that includes as a podcast go to Spotify and you can follow this show There's always a weekend edition that kind of wraps up some of the best segments of the week one of our favorite

segment of the week starts right now.

Former U.S.

Attorney Jim Santelos here along with journalist Jennifer Scholes in Mark Jacob.

Good morning all.

Good morning.

Good to have you all here.

Let me before I never want to forget to tell people to go get your newsletters, listen to your programs from Mark Jacob at stopthepresses.news.

The new addition is why won't the media say Trump is becoming a dictator?

For Jennifer, look up news Jennifer and get her newsletter in distinct chatter on Substack and Jim Santel.

has amicus a law review here on the civic media radio network saturday mornings coming up at 9am and jim i'm gonna start with you just because again there's so many directions that we could go in but one i just wanted to get to to get some clarity on and then maybe mark and jennifer want to react in what world

is the Supreme Court able to say, well, race shouldn't be a consideration for things like college admissions, but race can now be a consideration.

You can engage in racial profiling if deciding whether to.

arrest or detain or harass someone just because you think they might not be a citizen.

Can you make that make sense?

The answer to your question is it's not a world that I have known, it's not a world in which the United States has been in for decades, if not beyond that.

A district judge, here's her name, Maim Frimpong.

Maim Frimpong, she is my hero this week and she's been a hero for a while because she is the one who told us once again

told the president, told law enforcement that the standard for arresting people on the street for detaining them

is what is reasonable suspicion.

Gotta have some reason to believe that this person is engaging in criminal activity, is violating the law.

And she goes on to say in a very compelling order that simply rearticulates what law enforcement has done in America for decades, if not beyond, that you can't do things based upon simply the color of one's skin, the things you're wearing, where you happen to be working, where you happen to be standing, how you look, how you speak.

That is not reasonable suspicion.

And stunningly, on Monday, in one of the most shocking of the opinions issued under the shadow docket, we get a one-sentence order reversing that.

What

does

that mean, America?

What does that mean?

And you get Brett Kavanaugh, who adds on a very long addendum to this, and he says two equally stunning things.

He says, well, you know, any one of these things, Judge from Bronx, right, any one of them is not sufficient.

Put them all together, put all the zeros together, and then you've got a 100.

And then you can go out and arrest people.

And beyond that, statistically, if you wrangle up 100 people in Los Angeles, in particular neighborhoods, the statistical chance is you're going to get 10 people who are in violation of the law.

So that's OK, too.

Our Solicitor General says the same thing to the United States Supreme Court.

It is shocking at the highest levels, and I got to tell you, if I were to be teaching law enforcement, as I do regularly here in the Wisconsin area, about what the standards are for arresting people and detaining people on the street, as of Wednesday it would have taught it differently.

This morning, I don't know what the law is.

Thank you, the Supreme Court.

Just as John Roberts, how dare you do this to America?

And Mark,

we have seen the video of like U-Haul trucks open up and all these stormtroopers come out and start rounding up all these people in the parking lot.

I don't think there was probable cost for every one of those individuals.

Again, stress toward individuals, not just a whole bunch of people who don't look like you.

Well, and they're wearing masks.

I mean, how is a person on the street supposed to know if they're real, you know, law enforcement people or they're just criminals who are trying to kidnap them?

I mean, we're in a terrible position here.

And, you know, just following on what Jim said, the, you know, Brett Kavanaugh defending it, he says, well, usually, you know,

They'll just question you and let you go in fine order.

Yeah, if you look like Brett Kavanaugh, they will.

I mean, this is clearly racist.

It's the definition of racial profiling, and they're doing it.

I mean, it's a terror campaign against people who don't look white.

That's what it is.

Yeah.

And, you know, again, Jim has talked about the shadow docket a lot, Jennifer, but in reporting it, it certainly seems that it behooves reporters as well to take note that these issues are coming or these rulings are being issued without any kind of legal background.

It's just simply like a one sentence order, much the same way that Trump puts out, you know, tariff decisions.

There is some really good coverage about that.

I'm afraid we are in a moment where there's so much going on and the journalism world has been decimated, but I don't know how much of it actually breaks through, right?

I mean, NBC News has some really good folks that are covering this.

Some of the sub-stackers, or Dalia Lithwick on Sleet, they're talking about the shadow docket with some regularity, but I mean, on a scale of...

one to a million with everything that's happening, you know, it's way down at the bottom.

I also want to say about Brett Kavanaugh, has he not watched television or been on social media for the last couple of months and seen what's actually happening, the reality of these stops?

It is the opposite of what he describes in his order.

Yeah, and again, it is

When they say justice is blind, justice should at least have a TV set and get some kind of a feel for what is going on here.

Or his clerk should.

Yes, yeah, we're going to explore this more with Jennifer Sholes, you mark Jacob, former US Attorney Jim Santel, all coming up in just a bit as we continue our weekend review panel for this Friday, we will of course get into coverage of the Charlie Kirk murder as well.

And another reminder for Free Ticket Friday, the keyword before 9am is catch from the heart of America's up north live from Lake Wissota.

Thanks for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.

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