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Hey, good morning.
It is 8.06.
Nice to have you back here up north on this Tuesday morning, August 12th.
Chad Holmes is standing by.
Dan Schaeffer coming up a little bit later.
And we're also going to discuss how Wisconsin fits into the early timeline of hip hop.
as we mark the 52nd anniversary of the unofficial birth of the hip hop genre.
Yeah, I'm gonna do that.
Pat Krightlow in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin history of hip hop.
Of course, you want to stick around for that.
Brittany Merleau is off today.
Rain continues to move out of southeastern Wisconsin.
Not that they needed any more, but they got some more anyway.
And again, you can get your local weather throughout the course of the day here on your local civic media station.
Chad Holmes is at one of those stations now 989 WXCO in Wausau.
Chad, how you doing?
Oh, you got to take yourself out mute there, bud.
There's that pesky mute button.
I hate when that happens.
Nope.
He's still, he's still muted.
Look at that.
There it is.
There.
I'm looking at three different things and then I had to bring up my, cause I wasn't looking at you when you say good morning.
I was looking at other things, you see, you know, and.
That's again, I'm
making, I'm making the case for the 73 inch, you know, big screen TV as a computer screen.
Cause then we don't have to put windows behind other windows.
And I was assuming that Brittany was here.
They had a few minutes and then all of a sudden it's like, here you are.
You're.
On.
You're on the air.
Hello, caller.
And here we are.
And then we get all flustered and what a true radio professional I
am.
That seems to be our theme today.
So don't worry, you're in good company.
Uh, there, there, there are just days like that.
So, uh, so Dan Schaeffer is going to be coming up in a little bit here and obviously, you know, he'll have a Milwaukee perspective on the terrible weather.
Hans Brighton Moser was in earlier talking about the terrible hail damage to some of the crops, you know, in, in the area between you and him up there in.
Merrill.
We certainly got a lot of heavy rain here in the Chippewa Valley and lots and lots of lightning.
You know, we are without internet and TV service for a while over the weekend.
Did you have to get to experience any of that over the weekend?
Well, on Saturday, for the most part, we were pretty hard, but nothing like the folks down in Southeast Wisconsin.
But when I was going out and about on Saturday morning, and you know, you hear the term buckets?
The buckets were coming down.
I mean, it really was something else.
And again, it just shows you just don't know what to expect in this state.
This summer has not been what I would think is a normal summer, what we've had recently.
It seems like we've had a lot of drought conditions over the last number of years this year, nothing like that at all.
But then I think, and I was listening to you and Hans earlier talking about, well, you know, you think everything's going wonderfully.
And then all of a sudden,
something else pops up like the hail and everything else.
So I feel for anybody who's living is based on the weather
where
you could either have a wonderful bumper crop or one bad storm can just take it all the way.
I mean, it's I get my stomach starts to turn just a little bit thinking about that.
Oh, here's another example.
And I don't know how we manage this, but both of our daughters
both daughters had outdoor weddings that came off without a hitch.
Now, the first one, it rained all day the day before and into the morning.
And we were assured it was going to stop raining in time for the afternoon wedding.
And it did.
But it was no less nerve wracking to have that happen and then to have a clear day for the second wedding.
And that's just two days.
That's not every day like a farmer or anybody else who has to depend on the weather.
It's, you know,
There's just days when you have to let things, you know, not be in your control.
Yeah, no.
And then for some people, that's easier said than done.
I'll tell you that much.
Yeah, exactly.
As I was looking at the Wausau Daily Herald, I really took note of this one story.
Is it Colby windows and doors?
Yes, and says that they're building more than 100 affordable apartment units near their Warsaw factory and designed to be in a rent frame that workers earning between $18 and $20 an hour could afford to live there.
Now it'll be open to others as well.
So it's not exactly the remaking of the company store and the company town.
But
I guess I'm looking at it as half full that that employers are saying, look, if we want to continue to grow and if no place else is providing affordable housing stock, then I guess we have to take it upon ourselves.
But I know what kind of price pressure has been on on window and door manufacturers in Wisconsin over the years.
So that's why I really caught my eye that, you know, things are tight, but they figured it's worth it to make the investment to build some affordable housing near their factory.
I think you hit it on the head when you talked about looking at it as half full or half empty, however you want to do it.
Because again, isn't that story is so indicative of where we are right now?
I think it's a wonderful thing that this business is doing it.
It also shows, and I'm going to broaden it out a little bit, that
when you look at, and I'm gonna use professional sports, because they always come to the government and say, you gotta build us this new stadium.
You gotta allow us to develop the land around the stadium.
And by the way, you also have to cover any losses that we might have.
The idea of these incredibly super profitable businesses constantly reaching out to the government, local government, state government.
federal government, whatever it may be.
The taxpayers for their opportunity to make even more money.
This is a case like you said.
I think there's a risk involved here for Colby windows that they've decided, hey, that we think that for our business to thrive, we need to make sure that we have the workers and for the workers to come and live in this area and frankly,
over the last number of years, I've heard multiple stories about how there have been different businesses that have made offers to folks who would be willing to move here and work here, but they have not been able to find proper housing.
And it's not just here in central Wisconsin, but it's elsewhere.
And this is a case where this business is being very proactive.
But at the same time, it feels as though I've got it.
There's gotta be some answers here that our local government should be involved with, that folks whose main business is to host folks.
So it just seems to me that this is a story that's very indicative of a major issue that's not just occurring here in central Wisconsin, but throughout the country as well.
Right.
And in the article in the Wausau Daily Herald, Jeffrey Delaney, Colby Windows and Doris president noted the city of Wausau and other manufacturing companies in the area have been supportive of the project, which is nice.
But you
know, go do it.
If you guys want to do it, you go for it.
Yeah, go do it.
But I know that plenty of Wisconsin local units of government have said we we need to do more because we want not just this one employer we want multiple employers to come here but you know they won't come or they won't stay if we don't have enough affordable housing units.
I know this has been talked about at the state legislative level as well and I'm not
I'm not telling you that I have any easy answers to it, but I feel like almost every community, if they're not already making this a priority, should be figuring out how they too can increase their stock of affordable housing.
And also this is affordable housing.
You probably noted in the story, it talks about the rates starting at $895 for one bedroom.
1295 for two bedroom and that is absolutely, I think, one of the most important aspects to it.
I am thrilled because I don't know if I'd mentioned this to you, but I'd mentioned it to somebody else that like a month ago, I got home from work and in the door, there was this envelope.
And I knew what it was.
I knew it was my lease for the next year.
And over the last five years, I mean, it has been not a very pleasant moment where I've opened it up and saw how much my rent was going up for the next year.
Basically, I just put that envelope on a table in my living room, did not open it for at least three weeks, and then finally got to the point, well, I gotta open it because I have to either sign it or to say, I gotta find another place to live.
And for the first time in five years, I opened it up and said, oh, we're not raising your rent.
My first thought is, why are you raising my rent?
What am I missing here that I should be knowing about and talking about?
But the good news is, and I don't know what that means.
I actually really don't know why this year my rent didn't go up after it had gone up significantly each the last number of years.
But looking at this story, this is vitally important.
It is vitally important, and you hit it on the head that this has to be...
something that is looked at with all these municipalities, but also the state has to get a little bit more proactive.
Unfortunately, we have a party that's in power in both the state assembly and the state Senate that's not proactive about anything.
And this, by the way, this isn't just some small Wisconsin community issue.
This is an issue in the New York City mayoral race and talking about what's called rent control or rent stabilization so that, you know,
Again, regular folks can afford to live in New York City and you've got the candidates there arguing over who's more in favor of affordable rent.
So if in New York City, you're talking about the problem of affordable housing, I mean, it is just, it's something that is everywhere.
But here's the twist on it all.
It's a problem now, but again as the baby boomers and then us early Gen Xers as we Depart this moral coil, you know Mike my my adult children they're having a tough time affording a house There's just not nearly enough, but you know about 10 15 years from now
there's going to be a whole lot of housing that's out there.
And that's just, that's the generational thing.
So you can't wish the problem away, it will eventually change with the demographics.
But it's a real problem in the here and now.
And I guess I just want to, you know, tip my cap to Colby for being proactive on it.
Somebody doing something.
How about that?
I mean, it's in and I think I don't know if I mentioned this to you as well.
That's a problem I've seen with this country.
And again, not to
not to say it's hating on it.
It's just that in so many different issues, we seem to wait until the problem gets to the point where you have to do something instead of trying to look forward and trying to be a little bit more proactive.
It's like someday where, you know, whether it's the climate crisis or anything else, oh, well, we have to do something now.
And then we show that ability to do something.
But
there's this conservative streak that's been there for 250 years where you just seem not to want to be as proactive as I think it would be and you save money in the end when you're proactive.
No, and that's,
yeah, I was just gonna say is that the so-called fiscal conservatives always end up costing us more money because things become more expensive to address in the long run.
So their fiscal conservatism is really just rooted
in their own short-term self-interest.
They want to be able to get to the next election and say, oh, we held the line on spending.
Well, you didn't hold the line.
You kicked to the can.
And then somebody else has got to take care of the problem.
Somebody else has got to pay for it.
And then when a party like the Democratic Party does something, they sit back there and they pick at it, pick at it, pick at it.
I mean, I still go back to after the 2008 election.
Obama and the Democrats did something about health care.
Yeah, and they don't get rewarded for it.
And I think and I think that's generally the case in this country where you rarely get rewarded for being proactive.
It's somehow it's more, you know, we holding the line is so much more popular than maybe actually trying to fix the problem.
I hope that we're helping to shed some light and get people more aware of all that.
Chad Holmes, catch him on 98 9 WXCO in Warsaw.
Thank you, Chad.
You bet.
Thank you, Pat.
All right.
Coming up, we're going to talk a little hip hop history and Dan Schaefer from the Recon Population Area, all coming up here on the Civic Media Radio Network.
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Dan Chaffer will be here in just a little bit as we continue on this Tuesday morning, August 12th and now as perhaps Wisconsin's foremost expert in hip-hop music.
No wait, that's not me at all.
Sorry, I got that completely messed up.
But I noted that in preparing the history lesson that
hip hop as opposed to rap but hip hop as a music genre actually has a birth date which I guess for rock and roll is kind of when Bill Haley in the comments came out you know with rock around the clock again arguably well
There was this apartment party in the Bronx on August 11th, 1973.
And it's pegged as the beginning of the musical style we now know as hip hop, thanks to somebody named DJ Cool Herk, who was spinning multiple turntables and then combining the breaks and the songs in order to make the party more dance floor friendly.
And people really liked it and it caught on and a genre was born.
And I thought, well, does Wisconsin have a connection to this?
How far back does hip hop history go?
So this was what I wanted to share, my little nugget of internet knowledge, because in those pre-internet days, different DJs put their own spin on the style.
And if you look for Wisconsin's early hip hop roots, and these are the things I learned, I learned these things, and then I just spilled them all to the rest of
All roads point to the rapper speech.
who was born Todd Thomas in Milwaukee, and maybe you don't know speech, but he would later team up with a rapper named Headliner, and they would form Arrested Development.
And they were the ones that gave us songs like Mr. Wendell and Tennessee.
So there you go, a little Wisconsin hip-hop history, because if I only focused on Yacht Rock and polka music, we would run out of material in very, very short order.
So
That's that's that's our tie into hip hop history here.
In other entertainment news, I am so happy to have on Netflix season two of Wednesday is now running.
Any chance you watched Wednesday and its first run with Jenna Ortega?
No,
I never did.
I don't really know.
It's not in my vein, I guess.
Well, it normally wouldn't be.
Now, of course, it's loosely based on the Adams family, the 1960s sitcom about this family of outcasts living in a haunted house and all the supernatural things that they can do.
Okay, that's fine.
A nice little reboot of it, right?
If it hadn't been that tie-in, if it was just like some haunted house, family, you know, murder mystery thing, I might not have been interested either, but there was that tie-in, so we watched.
And I mean, it's good overall, but Jenna Ortega is great.
I mean, nobody plays that kind of droll, sarcastic, outcast young woman.
better than she does, and I've never seen Jenna Ortega in anything else that she does.
I know the name, but I know nothing about her except her work in this, and it's just so good.
I
Well, I mean, everything else is, I don't want to say predictable, it's not, but I mean, she's just her performance is outstanding in otherwise
good storytelling.
There's a good story arc in the first season.
I'm sure that this one will will do well additionally.
So I know yesterday I talked about watching the Ed Sullivan documentary on Netflix.
And we we watched that only after we caught season two of Wednesday, which is coming on.
So I just wanted to bring that up there for, you know, your own streaming recommendations.
Next time you're you're on Netflix, put it on the list.
Not not you yourself just the whole audience everybody if they're out there they can they can
watch a
little yeah people all the peoples that are there all right one more new story before we hear from Dan Schaefer down in Milwaukee and it deals with the US Supreme Court is now officially being asked to overturn same-sex marriage even though a lot of the you know justices who are on the court at the time are still there and
To get to the point that we're at now, we have to bring back a character from back in the day who led to our country having same-sex marriage legalized and that was a former local clerk by the name of Kim Davis.
She was a county clerk in Kentucky.
who was actually jailed for six days in 2015 for refusing to issue marriage licenses to a gay couple on religious grounds.
Not only did she face time behind bars, but she is now appealing a $100,000 jury verdict for emotional damages and another quarter million dollars in attorneys fees because
her own obstinance, what she claims is her religious expression, but she was working in a state office in the first place.
But she's saying that, you know, her religious freedom should allow for her not to have to pay this jury verdict.
And while she's at it, she says, you should overturn the whole decision known as the Obergefell decision.
Now the court has not taken it up.
I I want to make payments to say that what has happened is that because Kim Davis this Kentucky clerk was directly tied to the original case She would uniquely have standing to bring the case back in this case appealing the jury award and she's saying while we're at it that whole decision was was egregiously wrong as she puts it and
is asking the court to take legal action to strike down the Obergefell decision.
So she's made the petition.
That's what's making the headlines.
This is the first time the US Supreme Court is officially being asked to consider overturning Obergefell.
But we won't know for some time yet if the court will take up the case or not.
If I'm reading correctly, it only needs four justices.
to agree to take up the case to hear it.
So put it on your legal radar as something that we may be hearing more about from the U.S.
Supreme Court.
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Dan Schaefer is back.
He was off last week.
He's back in the Milwaukee area.
So we'll talk a bit about the flooding there as well.
But did you have a good trip out to London first and foremost?
I had a wonderful time.
Yeah, it was
stop.
No, stop.
I can't hear you over that British accent.
Use your regular voice.
Did
I come back with a British accent?
Did I really?
No, you did not.
So it was a good time.
Oh, yeah, we had a we had a wonderful time and got to, you know, the trip was to celebrate one of my oldest friends, 40th birthday.
So so that was a really, really wonderful treat to be able to do that in such a fun place.
Gosh, one of your oldest friends is 40 years old.
Well, somebody I've been somebody I've been friends with since I was young.
One of my youngest friends would be 40 years old.
It's just amazing how the time flies.
But you saw a concert there as well.
Yeah, we did.
So, you know, part of the part of the trip that we were going to was to go see one of our favorite bands from when we were growing up, the band Oasis.
We went to see Oasis at Wembley Stadium in London on the last night of their three night run in London.
and I think they've added some more London shows for this reunion tour later in September, but it was, honestly, it was one of the best shows I've ever seen.
Really?
Because I think there's one thing to see oasis in the United States, which I did when I was in college.
I saw them in Chicago But I think seeing them in England when people just love that band so so so so much and Singing along with 90,000 people to every word of every song like they would have a b-side from an album that came out in 1994 and Every person knows every word and it's so it's just this very cool communal
experience to just be there with so many people who are just experiencing so much joy.
Is it the joy because the brothers didn't like fight and break up right in front of them or
anything like that?
That's part of it too.
Everybody is shocked that this they have made it I guess what four weekends now into their reunion tour without the brothers collapsing on each other.
I
was gonna say we don't know if they've made up or if they've simply decided to make money but either either way it worked out well for everybody in the crowd so good for them.
describing this, talking about the concert and Wembley and the UK and everything, is simply a way of conveying to all of you that the political editor of Civic Media and I don't have a lot of new political stuff to talk about because we are two and a half weeks into the governor's race of 2026 and the governor Evers declined to run for a third term.
Lieutenant Governor Sara Rodriguez got in the next day and that's
It I mean there has been no significant motion other than somebody teasing on social media last night Did you see that from Keldor Royce?
I did not Keldor Royce this was now again.
This is on her personal Facebook account So I mean it it's it's not something that was that everybody was going to see but she was at an ice cream shop and she talked about a particular flavor of ice cream and was basically
reminiscing about her 2018 run for governor and then hashtagged it out 2026 governor.
So again, it's,
it's not the
announcement.
It's the, I may be getting ready for an announcement.
And the fact that we're talking about that tells you how little movement there's been in this race so far.
Well, good.
Well, I appreciate all the candidates, you know, while I was away, not making some, some extra news, giving me a little bit of time to be here and process the new information as
it comes.
You were going to London.
We were like, Oh, this is when the governor's going to announce he's not running or that he is running.
So you were thankful to get that much out.
Yeah, exactly.
Uh, but, uh, yeah, it was, you know, one of the things I was going to ask you here, Pat was like, what'd I miss while I was gone?
doesn't sound like on the political news front that there was all that much as far as state news, plenty happening elsewhere.
But yeah, it seems like Tom Tiffany's been making some posts.
He was down in this area at Wisconsin State Fair making the rounds.
Seems like he's headed towards Iran, at least on the Republican side.
Does it not?
Well, it certainly seems that way, though.
I always, you know, my default position is always that it's more of a fundraising tool.
In my mind, they're, you know, guilty until proven innocent of simply doing this for, you know, to build up their name ID.
I'm not saying he won't get in, but that's always the, you know, the bias that I come to.
So let me explain what I think is happening here.
And then as often happens after I give you my theory, you tell me how full of garbage I am.
So here's the, again, I take you back to 2018 when Kelder Royce was running and my friend Dana walks and Kathleen Vinehout and so many other people.
because the then state superintendent, Tony Evers, was not tipping his hand one way or the other as to whether he'd be running for governor.
And people waited and waited, and finally some people said, we can't wait, so we gotta get in.
And so he had this large candidate field, and then Tony Evers said, I'm running for governor, to which everybody else pretty much, I'm not saying they'll admit this out loud, but pretty well went.
Well that was a waste of time because they knew that Tony Evers had the name ID and sure enough you know he won that primary handily and that's that's all good in the end but not for those people that got into the race.
I'm contending this is all happening again and this time
it's Josh Call.
Because again, like Tony Evers, state superintendent, the attorney general has much higher name ID than almost anybody else in the race.
Doesn't make him people's favorite candidate necessarily, but he is definitely the one who, if he were to announce, that's my theories to why some people are really trying to wait, is wait for him to either commit to the race or commit to run once again for attorney general.
Are you buying any of this?
I think there's
some logic to it.
There's some
quite low
logic to it going on here.
But yeah, I think that makes sense.
The thing about Josh Collis, you win two statewide races.
You probably are the front runner coming into the race for governor.
Now, whether he'd be an overwhelming front runner, I don't think that would necessarily be the case.
I think there's a lot of qualified candidates in this field.
I think there's going to be a regional element to this primary, too, because I think Calderoy is being from Madison.
David Crowley being from Milwaukee.
Maybe there are ways to consolidate votes in different parts of the state.
that could play out.
But what we haven't seen is the whole bunch of people jumping into the race all at once.
And so I do think that, you know, given that there is going to be every statewide office is going to be open here too, you know, if Josh Call runs.
There's going to be an open race for Attorney General.
If Sarah Godluschi runs for Lieutenant Governor, which she has hinted at, then there's going to be an open race for Secretary of State and on down the line.
So I think there's going to be, and then.
you know, couple that with what's happening in the state legislature, where for the first time in 15 years, the Democrats have a realistic chance of flipping both chambers of the state legislature.
You might see some qualified candidates, you know, we've already seen a couple from the assembly take the step up to run for Senate.
And you all and you probably have a number of qualified people who are, you know, joining or campaigning for the first time might be running for assembly instead of, you know, taking a shot at governor or something like that.
So there's a lot of open office.
that are going to be on the ballot in 2026.
It's a huge opportunity for Democrats up and down the ballot across the state.
So it's not just the governor's race that we should be watching when people are making their various decisions in these announcements.
It's everything up and down the ballot as well.
We're talking to Dan Schaefer.
You can get his newsletter at therecombobulationarea.news and of course you can read his work over at the Civic Media website where he serves as political editor.
One of the names that again doesn't have a broad statewide, you know, knowledge yet is Mary Felskowski, the state senate president.
She's from the Tomahawk area, but her name does come up occasionally in news stories about an interest in running for governor, but
Getting back to Tom Tiffany, I wonder if instead, maybe that's the play that's happening up north with Republicans, are they thinking that Congressman Tiffany is looking at a run for governor, so now they're gonna need somebody else to run for Congress up in the seventh district.
And again, it's all parlor games, we don't know, but Mary Falskowski is a name that people should get to know because she may end up as a candidate for one or the other.
Yeah, that's true.
I think, you know, and she gave it during the the final budget session She gave this really a kind of extended impassioned speech You know pushing back on the budget she was I think it was the first time in a very long time that the Majority leader and the Senate president were at odds on the budget So Maria Felskowski voted against it while Devon Lemahue was voting for it And she gave this impassioned speech against the budget in his sons.
It's like it was when a politician makes a speech like that
the political editors of the world have their...
have their eyebrows raised a little bit, you know, they perk up a little bit and say, what's she going for here?
And so I thought that was very interesting that she, you know, gave that kind of speech and had that kind of position on the budget was obviously very critical of Tony Evers in that speech as well.
But I also think too that's, you know, the fact that we have multiple candidates from Northern Wisconsin who are considering a statewide run for under Republican side, I just think it goes to show kind of the shift in the center of power
for the Republican Party in Wisconsin.
You know, for so long, the stronghold was the Wild Counties, Waukesha, Ozaki, and Washington counties around Milwaukee, and when they would be racking up like 70% Republican margins for Scott Walker, whoever it might be, and kind of the early 2000s and early 2010s.
And now, as the Wild Counties are getting more and more purple every election, that center of power for Republican parties, I think it's moving north a bit.
And I think that is indicative of the fact that Tiffany is even in Felskowski or even considering this run statewide because I don't know if that necessarily would have been the case, you know, 15 years ago.
No.
And on the Democratic side, I think it's less geographic than it is place on the spectrum.
And I'm certain you have heard some of the same chatter from folks on the progressive side that they want to, and you hear this at the national level too, go bolder.
You know, they want somebody who is, you know, unabashedly progressive or liberal and saying that voters are tired of mealy mouth, you know, squishy sounding, centrist
Democrats, moderates, and they want somebody that is more, you know, fire breathing.
And we've talked about this before that, you know, there's the concern that that will turn off a lot of moderate voters.
So that, that's where the question really is, is where are those voters somewhere in the center?
Are they actually, are they actually more progressive and they just want a Democrat who, you know, just tells it like it is, or is that going to turn them off?
And again,
when you're talking generically it's it's hard to know which one is right but it is a very real debate that i'm hearing in democratic circles
yeah it's you know it's the question of driving turnout versus that you know from people who might not vote for you in every election and getting those kind of base voters who are who are there every time um you know i i guess i just don't see it the same as the there's an ideological bent to this because i i just don't think there's a
you know candidates that have been announcing or potentially announcing uh you know are going oh we're going for the progressive lane you know we're going for this i think you have to be a party that's building the big tent and i think you know i there are a lot of progressives that i agree with and a lot of things but one of the things that i i do find frustrating from time to time is that lack of wanting to build a big tent having a purity test uh around certain things and and i
That is, I don't really agree with, and I think you have to have people with lots of different viewpoints, diverse viewpoints across the ideological spectrum, and diverse viewpoints from people from representing different demographics, backgrounds, whatever it might be.
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It's going to be a busy week in Wisconsin.
Look at all these county fairs.
There's the Ashland County Fair, the Brown County Fair, the Dodge County Fair,
the Door County Fair, the Grant County Fair, Juno County, Kenosha County, Sawyer County, Washara County, all having fairs coming up this weekend.
And then down where Dan Schaeffer is in Milwaukee, they've got Irish Fest coming up Thursday through Sunday.
So, and Dan, I don't know if you are you, I don't know how many of the festivals that you get to, is it like a bingo card?
Do you try to check them all off in one year over a period of time?
Where are you at Irish Fest?
You know, I thought one year when I was working at Milwaukee Magazine a number of years back, I was going to try to go to every ethnic festival.
And then I just, once I put those all down on a list, I was like, oh, this is way too ambitious.
I'm not going to be able to do all of this.
I might check out Irish Fest.
Probably not the first one I would circle on my calendar when I'm going through the list.
I like the...
You know, when it's not the stuff at the summer fest grounds, I like the kind of local street festival ones in Milwaukee better than the, you know, the big summer fest grounds ones and all of that.
So those are the ones that I tend to give a higher priority.
Speaking of getting around Milwaukee, what else have you seen since you got back, given all the flash flooding from over the weekend?
Your high and dry, I assume?
Yeah, we are lucky to be, you know, we live on a hill near the Menominee River.
Lucky to be where we are and we had a little bit of water on what got up on Sunday morning But nothing that we couldn't clean up with a few paper towels So I'm feeling very grateful for that considering what so many of the other folks in the region have been dealing with Some people just really have lost a lot and and I you know the first responders in the region have done It's just a phenomenal job at helping people where they can you know considering all of the the flash flooding
and the fact that people were at state fair and brewer games when this was all getting started and you're not hearing about the kinds of tragedies that you don't want to hear about, I think has been pretty remarkable.
So kudos to them first and foremost for answering the call and for all the people who've been stepping up and helping neighbors and doing whatever needs to be done.
But yeah, it's just been a lot.
I've lived in Milwaukee for the better part of the last 15, 20 years now.
and you know this is that that was the biggest you know one day of flooding that I had ever seen here I think there was one day in 2000
When I first moved to Milwaukee, my first day on the job as an intern at the Fox Six web desk, I spent the day editing Flood video, so it just reminded me of that this week.
That was when you might remember Lake Dalton and Wisconsin
Dales
had the crazy floods and all of that.
And so, yeah, it's been crazy.
And so yesterday, after I was getting some work done, catching up from the week away,
And I decided to go down to Tosa Village where there has been a lot of videos of flooding.
So I thought I'd maybe try and grab a couple photos, couple videos, help out the news team and the social team to get some stuff for that.
And so I go down there and I start taking some photos.
And there are a couple other news teams down there and Channel 4 and Channel 12 were both down there.
And as I'm walking around, I happen to run into former candidate for state superintendent, Brittany Kinzer.
down in walking her dog in Mowatosa as well.
So that was, you know, there's always a Wisconsin connection, always a Wisconsin politics connection, I guess, for me as well.
And I guess about 20 minutes after I left, the governor showed up at that exact spot.
So had I waited a little bit longer, I would have had an interesting run in with the governor there too.
Well, sure.
I mean, the the intersection of news and politics and any street in Wisconsin can sometimes be a busy intersection.
which reminds me, looking at the Civic Media lineup here for today, coming up next on Matt and Air on Air, just minutes away here on the Civic Media Radio Network, yours truly will visit with Jane and Greg at 9.35.
But then the guest listed after the 10 o'clock news is State Senator Kelder Royce.
And then that's followed by the Todd Alba Show, which at 2.35 will have Chris Henry from the EAA Museum on James Lovell's legacy, you know, Milwaukee's own.
But then at 3.35,
State Senator Kelderoy's will be joining the Todd Alba show as well.
So, I mean, she's not here to make an announcement.
She's going to be both on matinee on air and Todd Alba.
Those two are all the time fighting over, you know, various contests who can get the most
callers and things
like that.
You know, they're both going to see who can pry in a, you know, a campaign declaration out of her first.
So, Kelda, I hope you're forewarned about the day you've got ahead of you here.
I'm doing the the meme here of Brian Windhorst pointing his fingers up to the sky.
What's going on here?
What's going on with this with these multiple radio bookings for
a
Tuesday?
That's all.
Keep keeping that name out there.
And of course, finally, I mean, I don't know what to say about the Brewers other than that.
A, how fun.
But B, despite the flash flooding and everything when they said, look, the parking lots are flooding and we may not, you know, if you can't get in, you can't.
get your Jacob Mazurowski t-shirt.
We'll do it again.
Oh no, the sellout crowd showed up anyway.
That that town that team is doing so much good for that town.
They absolutely are.
It's just it's such a fun team to follow and watch and everything and I think you know the way that they've been winning is fun that the personalities on the team are fun.
You know I missed a little bit of the pancake pat.
silliness that was happening.
But you need, I think in a long baseball season, in the dog days of August, you need goofy storylines to keep you going.
So that's really fun.
They've just been terrific.
And now they're just a couple wins away from, we're getting all the George Webb stuff starting back up here in and around Milwaukee.
I can't say it out loud.
Now it feels like a curse.
We don't want to jinx anything.
Don't want to jinx it.
Don't want to jinx it.
No, we're having fun along the way.
Dan Schaefer, thank you so much.
Good to talk to you.
Have a great day.
You as well.
All right, and thanks to all of you for being here today as well and our guests, Hans Brighton Moser, Sheila Everhart of the Wisconsin Agricultural Tourism Association, Jeff Renneke from Friends of the Apostle Islands, Dan Hagen from WJFW News Watch 12, and to you for being here as well.
I'm Pat Quitelow.
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