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Well, hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

It is 606 on this Tuesday morning, July 22nd, 2025.

It's another beautiful morning to have you here up north.

Live from Lake Wissota, from wherever you're spending your mornings, listening across the Civic Media radio network, or on the Civic Media app, on Facebook, on YouTube, by podcast.

Pleasure to have you here to get this Tuesday underway.

I got a question for you.

Sean Duffy on duty after that near

midair collision involving a passenger flight and a what B 52 bomber, something like that.

Look, I'm not expecting Sean Duffy to be in every control tower, but maybe before going after things like DEI and criticizing New York City's, you know, rush hour congestion traffic program, maybe focus on the core aspects of your job and putting up a social media post every couple of days saying, Hey, we're looking for air traffic controllers.

It's a great job.

Maybe you need to do a little bit more than that.

We'll talk about that close call coming up in just a little bit.

But first, I mean, Roger puts it so well in the comment section of Facebook, simply says, how about your first place Milwaukee Brewers?

How about that producer Parker Olson down in Madison A2, your first place Milwaukee Brewers?

I like the sound of that, Pat.

That's a good, I could get used to that.

We haven't said that since, I think, is it April 11th, something like that?

Were we in first place at all this year?

We were for a little bit.

First things started really not good, and then things were really good for a short time.

Believe it or not, after winning 11 in a row by beating Seattle last night, that is still not the longest streak in the majors, but just a couple more to go for that.

Only one more to go for those George Webb hamburgers.

That's what we

all care about.

That's the

only thing that

matters.

I can, I can honestly say having lived in Milwaukee for four years, uh, back in the late eighties, I think I only went to a George Webb restaurant, you know, maybe twice.

Um, and if it, and if they hadn't been for their, you know, decades long, you know,

promised to give out free hamburgers if the brewers ever win 12 in a row.

I don't know that I would have heard of them at all.

But they certainly found the right way to get attention when the brewers get on a winning streak.

It's a good way to do it.

Yeah, good for them if that's what gets the job done.

Coming up on the program today, we are going to be visiting in just a little bit here.

with Cam Stevenson from Courier Newsroom.

And Cam is our currently our Arizona editor of the Copper Courier.

He's relocating to Washington DC and will become our Capitol Hill correspondent after the congressional recess.

The August recess starts at the end of this week.

So Cam's going to give us an idea of where the things are in the Capitol this week.

Chaos comes to mind and then Congress will take a break.

He'll take a break pack everything in a moving van and then join us after Labor Day to become our regular Tuesday morning Correspondent out of the nation's capital.

So we'll we'll talk about his daily newsletter as well It's called below the Beltway.

You can get it through courier newsroom at courier newsroom.com and His latest edition talks about the ongoing efforts to sane wash

Donald Trump's friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and to also show us how residents in some communities are trying to basically shame local law enforcement into not becoming a branch office of Donald Trump's masked secret police force.

So we've got that to cover with Cam Stephenson this hour.

In our next hour, we will talk about some of the groups that know that they're not in power right now.

But they can call attention to what people in power are doing, specifically Trump's big bloated boondoggle of a budget bill and the state budget and things like that.

So we've got a couple of different stories from around Wisconsin of how people are calling attention to the things that are going to frankly harm them because of recent recent actions in the nation's capital.

Let's see, we'll also talk to Chad Holmes from 98.9, WXCO in Warsaw about the stories he's following there.

And then there's Dan Schaefer from the Recombobulation area.

Wisconsin politics is in a holding pattern this week.

I mean, from legislators to political journalists like Dan Schaefer, everyone is waiting on Governor Tony Evers to announce whether he'll seek a third term in 2026.

or retire and open up a sprawling Democratic primary to potentially succeed him.

We don't know.

And he's given no indication one way or the other.

It literally could go either way at this point.

Every so often, the rumor mill fires up and people say they've just heard that he's gonna say he's running or, you know, they just heard from a credible source.

He's gonna say he's not right.

We don't know.

We don't know that's that's where things are right now.

We don't know and we're waiting to find out because it is going to lead to a lot of coverage either about what what does it mean that he's running or Who's gonna run on the Democratic side if he's not?

We know there are two candidates so far on the Republican side and I say Quite confidently that there will be more Republican

Congress or more Republican candidates running for governor.

So we have a lot of work ahead of us, but of the candidates announced right now, Washington County executive Josh Shulman and also businessman Bill Barion.

It's Bill Barion who is running ads already, the $400,000 ad buy.

And in our Sunday morning newsletter about Wisconsin politics, we ask, what do you think of that?

If a candidate, an unknown candidate, is running ads this early, is it a turnoff, or is it understandable?

Because, you know, you don't like ads, but you got to build your name ID somehow.

Or do you even like it?

Do you like it because you see, here's somebody who's ambitious, who's a go-getter, wants to get out of the gates early.

Well, where do you come down on this?

Getting a lot of answers, a lot of feedback from you.

And understandably, a lot of them are going with option A. They think it's a huge turnoff.

But it's far from unanimous.

There are plenty of people that are choosing option B saying, I don't like political ads, but I get it.

And I can tell you, so many of those answers are tagged out with, regardless, these campaigns last way too long.

And people would like to see some kind of restriction on election season, which

Would be tough to do people, you know, candidates, potential candidates would still claim a, you know, a First Amendment right to run ads, et cetera, et cetera.

But a lot of people sure do admire countries like Canada, the UK and others where the campaign season is designed to be especially short, like two months from the time elections are announced until people vote.

In fact, I had a good long chat.

yesterday with a service guy who was here to work on one of the appliances and tells me that he listens to a lot of conservative talk radio around the state and he, you know, he, the conversations that I have with folks, they often go like this.

Can't we get along?

Most people are in the center, you know, either a little bit center left or a little bit center right.

And yet he and I both noted that we know of people who have drifted further to the right or further to the left, but the general public by and large just wants us to get together.

And if we had shorter campaign seasons where we could just focus on the issues and not spend a year or more in knockdown, drag out, marathon contests of personal attacks, maybe we'd be better off with that shorter campaign season.

So you can see why we're getting some good responses to our question of the week.

It said our Sunday morning letter, Sunday morning newsletter, sign up for it over at UpNorthNewsWI.com.

All right.

Well, let's get back to the brewers here, Cam, because I didn't get to see the game.

It was out on the West Coast last night in Seattle, but I do know that Brandon Woodruff was going to be pitching and pitch he did.

He went six innings.

throwing only 62 pitches, walking nobody, giving up just two singles, and your first place Milwaukee Brewers won their 11th straight 6-0 over the Mariners for Woodruff.

It was only his third start of the season after missing all of 2024 because of surgery on his pitching shoulder in late 2023.

Apparently though, and this is where I'm glad I didn't stay awake for this one, I love a good pitchers duel.

unless it's like way past my bedtime.

You know, then I, then I want to see a couple of grand slams and then it can go to bed, you know?

Yeah.

But, but instead Seattle's George Kirby carried a no-hitter against the Brewers into the sixth inning.

But the Brewers then tagged Kirby for four runs after sending eight men to the plate.

So, the Brewers are now two victories away from tying the twins for the longest win streak this season.

Minnesota won 13 straight in the month of May.

But we are now 100 games into the season and the Brewers have won 60 They are 60 and 40 100 games into the season first time in team history.

That's on 20 20 games above 500 and by the way They are doing it with a very different roster than the one that won the division last year.

Will you Thomas?

gone San Francisco.

Corbin Burns gone now with Arizona.

Devon Williams gone now with the New York Yankees.

And on it goes.

And yet Pat Murphy's taken this crew.

And look what he's got now.

Tonight's pitcher.

A young man named Jacob Mizorowski.

Yeah.

You know, it's funny.

You look at this team and.

It almost feels like somehow, without any of the name recognition, it feels like the Cardinals or the Yankees or the Dodgers.

It feels like a team that you look at the batting lineup and you go, oh god, that guy's gonna be really hard to get past.

Oh, that guy's gonna be hard.

Oh, that guy too?

Every single guy in that batting lineup right now is just an absolute thorn.

to get passed.

And it makes

no

sense because you don't know who any of them are.

No.

And it's a thing that I always love watching the national media.

And it's not just Milwaukee.

Anytime a smaller market team is doing very well.

And you can almost sense of them.

Part of it is now going to learn all these names.

Right.

How do you spell Mizorovsky?

You know, some of them are excited about it.

They don't want to just cover the same.

Oh, look, Aaron Judge hit another 600 foot home run.

You know, they, they appreciate the fact that every so often a small market team can make a run like this.

But I do enjoy watching Cubs fans try to somehow rationalize all of this.

Cubs fans,

Cubs fans, can we have a moment, please?

Figure it out, focus on yourselves, win some games.

There's no dark magic going.

Mark Ananasio said he wants to provide a summer of fun and entertainment.

He said nothing about a World Series championship.

So we're having fun.

This is entertaining.

Be entertained.

Yes, I am.

I am, and we are.

So here's where things go with the Brewers from here.

One more night game in Seattle, and then there is a day game ahead.

Tonight's game is at 8.05.

Pregame coverage begins on several civic media stations around Wisconsin.

And then tomorrow afternoon, they'll wrap up things in Seattle.

Tomorrow afternoon, 2.05.

is when the pregame will begin.

Then Thursday, they're off to come back home for two series.

The first one begins Friday against the Florida Marlins and then the Cubs come to town next week, Monday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

That boys and girls is going to be interesting.

You thought that the Mizorowski like pitching against the Pirates felt like a playoff atmosphere.

Wait until you see what it feels like playing against the Cubs when we're a game with each other.

And again,

that's quite likely and the the crowds are going to be raucous and they're going to be much more evenly balanced than in past seasons and that is going to feel real good.

From the heart of America's Up North, live from Lake Wissoda, thanks for making this the place to spend part of your mornings.

I'm Pat Krightlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

Welcome back to mornings with Pat Kratlow, where we wonder if Pat can unmute his mic.

Oh, stop it here.

I got the button right here.

Boy, the things I do not to slurp my coffee too loud in your ear during the commercial break here.

Oh, it's so helpful.

That's me.

Just a thoughtful guy.

So the story out of North Dakota with that near midair collision with a B 52 bomber was that a Sky West plane had to abort its landing in Minot and make an aggressive maneuver because a B 52 was conducting a flyover of the North Dakota State Fair at the time.

That's according to remarks that a passenger made by the, I'm sorry, according to remarks the captain made to passengers in the cabin after the flight.

This happened back on Friday.

An aviation tracker program shows the plane was descending toward Minot, but then climbing, turning right and flying in a loop before landing.

Skywest did not say how close the two planes had come to each other.

Minot is near an Air Force base as well as the North Dakota State Fair and the flyover was being done with approval from the Federal Aviation Administration and Minot's Air Traffic Control Tower, but the tower did not advise the inbound commercial aircraft.

It did not

named Sky West or the B-52 in its statement and the Air Force did not respond to inquiries.

A passenger on board the plane, Monica Green, said she was sitting near the front of the plane when it swerved harshly to the right near the end of the trip.

The turn was so sharp she found herself looking out the window, not at the sky, but at the cornfields below, she said, and then upon landing the pilot came into the cabin and told passengers about the military aircraft.

He said, sorry about the aggressive maneuver.

This caught me by surprise.

This is not normal at all.

The air traffic control tower at the airport does not have radar, the pilot says in the video, but the nearby Air Force Base does.

And he said, I don't know why they didn't give us the heads up.

From Jim and Brookfield on the text line, when a B-52 bomber crosses the flight path of an active runway in order to do a state fair flyover, something is seriously wrong.

The transportation secretary needs to address the issue under no uncertain terms and hold someone accountable.

Again, on the text line from Jim in Brookfield.

And so because the secretary of transportation happens to be from Wisconsin, Sean Duffy, you know, we do kind of look at that a little bit differently in part because Sean Duffy has no significant transportation management experience and in part because a lot of the people who do.

Have either been let go or have quit resigned or retired have not been replaced and with The aviation, you know air traffic control system this understaffed and this much under pressure There is legitimate concern that there could be more incidents like this and so all we're really asking is that transportation secretary Sean Duffy focus

on making the necessary repairs, making the necessary hires.

And don't just try to keep people who otherwise would retire.

Don't try to keep people from their retirement.

They have worked decades and have earned it.

That's one of the things that really gets to me is when I hear politicians say, well, we just have people retiring too early.

No, we don't.

People have earned their retirement.

They've set up whatever benefits you laid out for them.

And if they're good to go, they're good to go.

Maybe rethink the xenophobia that's keeping you from having a labor force that has been built in this nation for 200 years with people coming from around the world because they want to work here.

maybe address immigration reform rather than trying to just pass tax cuts for the super wealthy.

But that's what people are doing now and in our next hour we're going to talk about what a couple of different groups are doing to bring attention to that.

I also meant to mention earlier that Dan Hagen should be along from News Watch 12, WJFWTV in Rhinelander and we'll talk about some of the stories that he is following up in that part of the state.

We also have for you a couple of different things from Courier Newsroom that we wanted to tell you about.

We spent a little time yesterday talking about the video series, How Is This Better?

with Akilah Hughes covering everything from politics to entertainment to tech and late-stage capitalism.

How Is This Better?

challenges a lot of the grifters controlling our government and our attention and so much of our daily lives and there is so much to be said in Akilah's

newest episode called The Alpha Male Trap, which is all about the way that young men are especially vulnerable to messages about hypermasculinity and what it's doing not only to our politics, not only to our national discourse, but to their health, to their lives, to their relationships or lack thereof.

And then the week before in her series, How Is This Better?

Akilah Hughes looked at women and the whole Trad Wives trend and what the Maha Make America Healthy Again movement is doing and again put healthy in quotes when you talk about that.

There are a lot of women seeking information on wellness and instead of being fed a steady diet of political rhetoric meant to tell them that

you know they don't need to work outside the home and that they should have a more traditional role and what is that again doing to our labor force to our economy and to the aspirations of women who are told there's something wrong with them for wanting to have.

those aspirations.

So again, that's from Akilah Hughes.

How is this better?

A series from Courier Newsroom and you can either watch it on YouTube or watch or listen on Spotify.

You can listen on Apple or you can watch from the Courier Newsroom website couriernewsroom.com.

In just a bit, we're going to be talking to Cam Stevenson, making the move from Arizona to Washington, D.C.

to

cover all things in the capital, in Congress, the White House, and elsewhere for all of us right back here at home, where we are at home, live from Lake Wissota, here on the Civic Media Radio Network, the Midwest Farm Report.

It's coming up next.

Little reminder for you that you can reach the show, send us a text through the Civic Media app.

You can get that downloaded at all the usual app stores, call up any of the stations, the 10 of them where you now hear our show across Wisconsin, and use the text feature to send us a note.

or you can record a voice note.

Use the voice note button instead and send us a little audio message and we may play it here on the show as well.

Again, head to civicmedia.us to learn more about that from Scott Madison.

On the text line we were talking earlier about you know many people being in the political center There are some people that are you know further to the right further to the left Scott and Madison says as you throw out further to the left I would sure love a definition of that or an example that matches what further to the right examples could be given and I don't know that I could give you a matching example because the stuff that is further to the right is

concerning.

Further to the left, the one that came up most recently for me was hearing about Zaron Mamdani, the candidate for mayor in New York.

And there are some people aghast that he wants to make bus fares free.

And of course, we hear all about Democrats being the party of free stuff.

But

I can already counter that and tell you, you know, the Staten Island Ferry in New York used to charge.

It's now free because they understand the importance of getting commuters to work.

And so when I always hear this, you know, the far left wants things for free.

Sometimes we forget there are plenty of things that are free already that we don't ask them to pay for themselves.

You know, there there are no toll roads in Wisconsin.

we just go, you know what, we need roads to move people around.

And so let's make that free.

But let me get let me give some more thought to Scott's point, we'll get into far left views versus far right views.

Here's a guy that's got to deal with all of them.

coming up with his new gig in Washington DC.

Cam Stevenson from the Copper Currier in Arizona, at least for a little bit longer, where it's 4.30 in the morning out there, but he's already on the East Coast time because of the new gig.

He's going to be starting covering Capitol Hill for Currier Newsroom.

Cam, how are

you?

You know, a little sleepy, but that's why I rely on coffee.

It's great to see you, Pat.

Thanks

for having me on.

see we're very pro coffee here Parker not so much we're still working to corrupt him and make him a coffee drinker but the rest of us we we totally get it so along with the the new duties they include a newsletter from Courier Newsroom called Below the Beltway and you can get that at Beltway.News and of course through CourierNewsroom.com

But Cam, we're gonna visit with you now, and then Congress is going on recess.

You're gonna move to D.C.

from Arizona, and then we'll get all this started officially on Tuesdays, starting the day after Labor Day.

So let's give a little bit of background first.

I know you've been on the show a couple of times before talking about Arizona matters, but how in the world does a nice young man from Arizona end up having a discussion going, hey, you wanna move to D.C.

and cover the swamp for us?

Well, I'll tell you what, it didn't come easily.

A lot of it was born out of necessity.

It was something that I saw as a need for courier as much as I think our publisher and headquarters felt that with the incoming Trump administration that we were going to see a lot of what we saw during his first term, but magnified.

There would be

not only attempts by his administration to push the limits of what our laws are and what it means to be a democracy, but news outlets, more traditional ones, mainstream ones who are more looking for access and increased viewership and to make money off of it than to actually report the news and what's going on.

And we've seen that, you know, we have a whole new term for it this time around, sanewashing, which is just

people's desperate attempt to make these acts of authoritarianism and these, you know, fascist efforts on the streets with our immigration police try to make those things sound normal and routine and as if it's what we would see no matter what, which it's not.

And so that's kind of where the idea was born is we wanted someone with couriers

mission on the hill reporting and giving an opportunity for people to see what's going on at their nation's capital.

And so I've been laying the groundwork the past few months as we've been getting prepared to move and we'll really be able to hit the ground running once Congress comes back in the fall.

So, St.

Washington is the theme of your most recent newsletter edition here and unfortunately as

as disgusting as the entire Jeffrey Epstein matter is, it does give us perhaps the best way to talk about sanewashing.

Because it's one thing to say, let's take, you know, evangelicals who love to criticize, you know, Joe Biden, even though he went to church faithfully every week, but they think, you know,

Donald Trump is like some kind of exemplar who was you know sent from above and as a flawed package etc etc.

St.

Washington is just a way to say what if the shoe were on the other foot would you still be making excuses for this person and by and large in the Trump administration there's been a lot of that you know like oh we can we can excuse this we can excuse this we can excuse this now we get to this Epstein thing releasing the files and now suddenly it's a case of you know a lot of Trump supporters going

Wait a minute if the shoe were on the other foot if Joe Biden or somebody were holding up the Epstein files We'd be we'd be crying bloody murder and we're crying bloody murder that Donald Trump is not releasing these things and you see where the the St.

Washington cycle Actually does have it is finite.

It actually does have a limit

Yeah, and I want to say this is probably the first time we've seen this with Donald Trump honestly since the what the

Hollywood tapes from his first campaign where where people began to break with him.

But then, you know, they didn't in the end.

But yeah, we're seeing an interesting shift and kind of a chasm appear where there's these people like the FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino, who essentially built his career on being an Epstein truther, for lack of a better term.

And now he's being asked to

essentially go against that to do what he said he would never do and protect the rich and powerful at the expense of the victims of terrible crimes and a lot of people don't they can't wrap their heads around that they have built this persona of someone who of a president who at all costs even back in 2020 was you know the conspiracy theories were that he was working undercover to

unmask these these terrible wrongdoers and and was a man of the people and he if he only had four more years then he could really really get in there and and now there's there with this they're seeing the opposite and I think that that to them is insanity and they can't that's a bridge too far and

I think by and large they are actually seen through

the administration's efforts to change the subject.

There was Trump over the weekend playing the race card going, hey, we need to bring back the Washington football team name and the Cleveland Guardians baseball team.

There's the going after, you know, Harvard over and over again.

Even yesterday, there was the release of files related to the assassination of Martin Luther King.

I mean, they're throwing anything out there to change the subject and Martin Luther King's daughter puts up a photo of

of Martin Luther King just kind of looking at the camera and the caption says, great, now do the same with the Epstein files.

You know, after having released the MLK files, you know, folks are understanding this.

And so this is what, I think that, I think the attempts to, like you said, Sainwash this are not gonna happen this week.

And I think what doesn't help is that the speaker of the house, Mike Johnson, who

Let's face it, it's not a beloved character.

I mean, he seems like a good foot soldier to begin with, but now in saying, well, of course we're for full transparency.

We're doing everything possible to give full transparency when they're actually doing the exact opposite is just not a good look for an already, for a speaker of the house that many people are already, shall we say, suspicious of.

Yeah well and you know I mean he he got his position by being you know last picked on the you know on the team four times over he's not someone who has the charisma for the job or the

the ability to politic in the way that the previous speakers could but he's good at following directions and doing what he's told and so that's what he's been doing and he has been able to help get through you know Trump's

the billionaire tax cuts through that budget.

He was able to get this recisions bill to cut funding for public aid and public broadcasting.

And I mean, well, that's about half of the legislation they've passed this year.

But he's been able to do that.

And so I think that they're just trying to, at this point, lie low and hope that Donald Trump stops talking about Epstein.

Because honestly, at this point,

He keeps bringing it up

and

I think that's part of their problem.

You could just see all these folks put their finger in on Trump's lips and go, stop, stop talking.

We're talking to Cam Stevenson, Courier Newsroom's new Capitol Hill correspondent is below the Beltway newsletter.

It can be found at beltway.news and one other quick story out of there.

The way that local residents in some places are pushing back against ICE and the mass deputization of local cops and we don't have time to get into all the different ways that police departments can work with the Department of Homeland Security and ICE but you do tell the story of a founder of the group Indivisible

her name is Jillian and you're right the idea of masked plainclothes police officers smashing car windows abducting her neighbors and seeing friends sent off to internment camps did not sit well with her and helped start a group that was putting pressure on their local police department and that seems to be Cam the one way that everyday citizens can make a difference is to to what degree will their local law enforcement be local law enforcement or a branch office of Trump

secret police.

Yeah, yeah, Gillian, her story is really, really impressive and amazing.

Just she was, you know, fairly politically inactive in the sense that she was living her life, you know, paying her bills, working a few jobs until November.

And then she saw Trump get elected.

She wanted to find something to do.

And so she found Indivisible, which I imagine a bunch of Indivisibles have, you know, different groups and chapters have popped up throughout Wisconsin

and the Midwest

as well.

So she started this group.

It's now, you know, 4,000 strong in just a few months.

And they've been putting pressure on their city council to have them

end partnerships with ICE.

And this is something that I've seen and been tracking in different cities across the country, not just that, but for cities to end or not engage with prison contracts with ICE as well.

As the Trump administration is trying to arrest thousands of people every single day, they need a place to put them.

And so they're...

quickly reopening prisons that have closed or starting private prison contracts to open these facilities in different states everywhere in the country.

People have been able to successfully push back at the city council level to have those contracts either canceled or not signed.

And so this has just been a very effective way for people to actually oppose these policies in an effective way.

Because when it comes down to it, it's all paperwork.

And if you

can

stop that.

And by the way, it's not it's not about like a sanctuary city where they don't enforce things.

You can still enforce immigration status on people who have been arrested.

There's a big difference between that and helping out on raids, you know, getting again people from housekeeping who've broken no laws and things like that.

Cam Stevenson's following all this and below the Beltway find it at Beltway.News and we will talk to you more after Labor Day.

Good luck with the move.

We'll see you in DC.

Sounds good that.

Thank you so

much.

I'll see you later.

Thank you very much.

Today's history lesson is coming up next, as we always do.

Mornings here up North, powered by Up North News on the Civic Media Radio Network.

People were getting kind of a bittersweet start here on today's history lesson with Bobby Sherman, who was born this day in 1943, but passed away less than a month ago at the age of 81.

The singer, the teen idol, the TV actor, who later, when he was no longer a teen idol or a singer or an actor, became a paramedic.

liked what he was seeing on TV medical dramas, wanted to do it himself and had a distinguished career doing that as well.

The late Bobby Sherman born this day 82 years ago.

Another big birthday in rock and roll history and that of course would be Don Henley from the Eagles.

He is 78 years old today.

Where'd you go Don?

I told you it was gonna be cookie.

There's Don.

Don Henley, 78 years old today, born in Gilmour, Texas.

And one of the songwriters that I admire most, so much to love about his songwriting, there of course is, you know, Sunset Grill, Dirty Laundry, The Boys of Summer.

One of my favorites, Garden of Ala.

One of those people that if you could have lunch with anybody and just pick their brain, I would love to hear him talk about writing songs.

I would not really want to go to lunch with him because I understand he's rather prickly and he'd sit down at the table and go, what the hell are you doing here?

But if he would just mind talking about songwriting, that would be great.

Oh nice.

Danny Glover is 79 years old today.

Actor Willem Dafoe is 70 years old today.

Okay, up next is The Supremes You Keep Me Hangin' On, but not The Supremes.

It was on this day in 1967 that the cover, the rock cover of You Keep Me Hangin' On, peaked on the billboard charts.

It was done by Vanilla Fudge.

doesn't really have the same sparkle, shall we say, but it did have its niche.

It's still there.

We're still playing it, you know.

58 years later, peaked at number 67 on the charts this day in 1967.

Actor David Spade is 61 years old today.

Little Prince George, the Prince of Wales, is 12 years old today.

We've got a George Clinton birthday today.

And I'll let you guess which one it is.

Is it the former vice president of the United States?

Or is it the guy from Parliament Funkadelic?

Here's a hint.

It's this one.

So the president.

I was going to say, so yes, as you can tell, it is the guy who was born in 1739.

No, this is George Clinton's 84th birthday today.

And yes, coincidentally, this coming Saturday marks the 1739 birth of the other George Clinton, the general turned to politician who was America's fourth vice president serving under two presidents, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison.

So a lot of things around you that are named Clinton, you know, Clintonville, Clinton Street, whatever the case may be.

Quite likely named for George Clinton, but if if you want to go ahead and pretend that it was named for the guy from Parliament Funkadelic you go for it and you have that dance party The late Kansas senator Bob Dole was born this day in 1923 he passed away four years ago a war hero from World War two Kansas senator presidential nominee in 1996 as well Happy birthday to super tramps Rick Davies who is 81

one years old today.

Let's see, this one, every so often I see one in the notes and I realize that Aaron Zahmers would put some things in now and then.

the notes and just just to remind me just to keep me in my on this day in 2014 weezer releases back to the shack the lead single from everything will be all right in the end it's very

important you know that

and while in cases like this I never know if Zomers is punking me or not Emily sailors from the indigo girls is 62 years old today Selena Gomez turns 33

And I learned, because I watched TMZ, that she had a big birthday party over the weekend, and Peite was there.

Taylor Swift attended.

I'm glad you're keeping up with pop culture.

That's what I know.

I don't know Weezer, but I know Selena Gomez had a birthday party.

You know what,

that's okay.

I know William Shakespeare's play, The Merchant of Venice, was entered in the stationers register, so it was registered this day in 1598.

On this day in 1893, Catherine Lee Bates wrote America the Beautiful after admiring the view from the top of Pike's Peak near Colorado Springs, Colorado.

And finally, one more for music.

Great Britain on this day in 1956 unveiled its first ever albums chart.

And there was an American on top of it.

It was Frank Sinatra's Songs for Swinging Lovers, which featured standards like I've Got You Under My Skin and You Make Me Feel So Young.

Let's see.

Today on the National Day Calendar, we've got casual, what is

casual?

Casual pie day.

What?

Is there a

serious pie day?

Well, it says here, the fraction 22 7th is an approximate value of pi.

And so that's why pi is also celebrated on July 22nd.

Well, there is a better national day today, Pat.

And it's one that I know you can celebrate.

What's that?

National hammock day.

Oh, yes, I'm in.

I'm in.

And I got to say again, we got a new one this year.

We put it on a frame instead of between two trees.

And I may never go back.

I think I have found the right hammock for me.

Now we had friends stay over the weekend and the one friend got in there and was like, nope.

was downright claustrophobic, you know, because it's cloth and it kind of, you know, envelopes you when you're in there.

But I kind of liked the cocoon sensation.

You're a cocoon

guy,

huh?

If I'm cashing out on that hammock, you just leave me alone.

Yes.

Hey, two more hours as we continue to get rolling on this Tuesday morning, these mornings powered by Up North News.

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Good morning, it's 7 0 6.

Nice to have you here up north on this Tuesday morning, July 22nd.

Parker Olson produces this fine program down in Madison Studio A2.

meteorologist Brittany Merleau will be joining us from the EAA Air Venture in Oshkosh in just a sec.

And then later this hour, we will talk about ways that some groups in Wisconsin are holding politicians accountable.

They may be about to go on their August recess, but that doesn't mean they won't still be held accountable for supporting a big bloated boondoggle of a budget bill in DC that's going to cause harm to a lot of folks in Wisconsin.

We'll talk about those efforts and a successful effort to set a world record by some folks up north who want to call attention to potentially dangerous oil and gas pipeline.

that's running through parts of northern Wisconsin.

So that and much more still ahead.

But first, let's head out to the EAA Air Venture, where meteorologist Brittany Merleau has positioned herself to have the aura of her rising sun right behind her to tell us what's happening.

And she camps out at Air Venture in Oshkosh, Ms.

Merleau.

Good morning.

How are you?

Good morning.

I'm doing pretty good.

You can see the sun is shining here.

It is so bright this morning.

I'm trying to block it out of the way.

can't really get around it between the sounds of the Oshkosh and then the sun.

It is a beautiful morning, but I will say when the sun comes up every camper wakes up, right?

You can't beat the sun.

It wakes you up wide awake, but there's a lot of clouds though all across the state.

57 degrees right now.

A degree in Bay 73 into La Crosse.

We are going to heat things up and the humidity is going to start to seep in as this warm front mirrors us today.

So we are climbing to the mid 80s statewide.

to near 90 degrees far west.

Those muggy humid conditions are already moving in.

Dew points are going to hit the low 70s today and then by tomorrow morning we are looking at some showers and storms definitely rolling through the area.

Looks like they start around 5 a.m.

Waves of them move through the state.

Another one again in the evening and into the night and that active pattern continues as that front sets up over northern Wisconsin and then drags itself.

through the rest of the state into Thursday.

So as this moves in and continues to push this hot human air in, we're going to hit the mid 90s down south tomorrow.

But then of course that rain going on up north, maybe some 70s up there, but it is going to be sticky.

It is going to be feeling like triple digits with the heat index and I am nervous with my tent.

I'm not going to lie.

I've got a little fan.

It is solar powered and that is all I have.

I have no AC anywhere.

Oh, I mean.

You're doing the whole roughenet thing here to see all that's going on at AirVenture.

Tell us some of the stuff you got to see yesterday that you enjoyed.

The blimp, the Goodyear blimp, there's multiple of them.

I thought it was going to be one.

No, there was three of them here.

They are massive.

It's cool to see them take off at like a 45 degree angle.

I can't imagine being in there.

It looked so much fun.

There is just a bunch of planes everywhere, lots of people everywhere.

It's hard to remember everything that happened yesterday because there's so many exhibits, speeches, things going on here that you can go and see.

I would honestly say it's just making new friends.

I've talked to a lot of volunteers here.

I talked to the staff, security staff, see what was going on and how they kind of run the event and what do they do when severe weather happens?

How do you get them out of here?

What do they do?

How much more do they have?

So I was kind of digging into some of that kind of stuff, but overall having fun.

Good.

Do you measure steps?

Do you know how many steps you put on yesterday?

Everybody was doing that yesterday.

That's so funny.

They're saying between 15 to 20,000 steps.

I didn't, I forgot to register mine.

So I'll do it today.

I'll let you know

tomorrow.

You know what?

I'll take it on faith that you did 15,000 steps yesterday.

Yeah, feels like it.

I am absolutely sure you did.

And I think it's great that you're asking these questions about, you know, what happens if stormy weather happens out there.

Obviously it's happened.

And, you know, folks are going to be

looking at you and going, is it here yet?

Is it coming yet?

As if you carry around a radar, you know, on your wristwatch all the time or something like that.

But

I wish I had it on the wristwatch.

That would be great.

I know.

The

pocket.

But you mentioned that folks from NOAA and the National Weather Service are there as well.

So, I mean, they are definitely covered in terms of, you know, knowing what the weather is going to be like when it comes in.

Have you heard much chatter yet about the near miss in North Dakota between the B-52 bomber and the commercial jet that was trying to land in Minot?

Has that been a topic of conversation around there?

Ooh, not just yet.

I'm sure that sounds like it's going to be a topic today, though.

I'm sure it will in terms of, yeah, who's got radar and who talks to who out there.

So just so much to see and do around the Oshkosh area.

So Brittany, go enjoy it all.

Are we talking to you tomorrow?

Yes,

you are.

Depending on the weather, I suppose.

True.

And your comfort level.

All right.

Well, enjoy and we'll talk to you next hour.

Sounds good.

All right, thanks, Brittany.

Hey, by the way, a reminder that if you missed any of our shows last hour or something, you know, yesterday or last week, and you want to catch up on it, you can head over to the Civic Media website, civicmedia.us, where every hour's

program of this show and all the others are listed, you know, hour by hour and you can go back and listen or you can subscribe as a podcast to catch us as well.

You just have to head over to Spotify or Apple and get yourself subscribed to to this program.

All the others and you will never miss a thing again.

Let's check the mailbag here from Robin Tigerton.

Good morning.

Hazy sunshine 59 degrees yesterday with lawnmowing jobs in Wittenberg.

He had spaghetti for lunch at Brianna's in Wittenberg.

It was a very busy.

Most folks heading to the EAA.

Today's got lawnmowing jobs in Tigerton, getting them done before the heat, the humidity and the storms come in.

We played super tramp in our last segment.

and said, maybe there'll be a weather theme.

Maybe tomorrow we'll play Supertramps.

It's raining again, a song that they had back in 1982.

So we thank Rob for writing in and a reminder that you all can do the same thing here.

by getting on Facebook or YouTube jumping into the comment section like Roger did in Stevens Point to talk about how the Miz is on the hill tonight.

That, of course, would be Jacob Mizorovsky pitching for your first place Milwaukee Brewers.

Yeah, I said first place Milwaukee Brewers.

They were winners against the Seattle Mariners.

Yesterday, final score was six to nothing.

In fact, while Brandon Woodruff went six strong innings, only gave up two singles, walked nobody.

The fact of the matter was Seattle's George Kirby had carried a no-hitter into the sixth inning.

But then the Brewers were able to bust things open.

They tagged him for four runs after sending eight men to the plate in the sixth, and six to nothing was the final there.

The Brewers now have won 11 in a row.

60 of their first 100 games.

That's the first time in team history.

And as we mentioned last hour, they're doing it with a different roster than the one that won the division last year.

I mean, no Willie Adamus, no Corbin Burns, no Devon Williams, but they're still getting things done.

And Jacob Mizorowski, one of those new faces, will be the pitcher tonight.

Pregame begins at 805 on several civic media stations.

Then they will play, they'll wrap up the series in Seattle tomorrow afternoon.

Tomorrow's pregame will start at 205 in the afternoon.

They are off on Thursday and then they come home for a weekend series against the Florida Marlins and then of course that really big series starting next Monday at home against the Chicago Cubs because with yesterday's win the Brewers moved into first place.

They're holding it down on their own for the first time since early to mid-April and so that Cubs series next week is just going to loom so much larger as we

really start to head into the, what, final third of the season happening before long.

Across the Civic Media Radio Network today, Jane Mattonair has Mattonair on air, along with Greg Bach, coming up from 9 to 11, following our festivities here.

Todd Alba will be joining Jane and Greg at 9.30.

And then on Todd's show, Todd Alder's show from two to four, you'll have Sirajita Patra of Wisconsin Watch talking about increasing suicide rates among senior Wisconsinites.

Then Maggie Dawn from four to six will have Angela Lange from Block in Milwaukee just after four o'clock and State Senator Kristen Dassler Alfheim just after five o'clock.

Again, all of that coming up here on the Civic Media Radio Network where there aren't just.

programs here.

There are also podcasts and that would include one called Wisconsin Forward with Matt Rothschild.

It's a weekly dive into a topic surrounding a current political problem in the state, a little background on how we got to where we are today and what some folks are working on now, possible ways forward.

It's a uniquely Wisconsin take on the big issues that are preventing progress.

and the people with ideas to move forward, you can subscribe and download Wisconsin Forward on Spotify, Apple, or on the Civic Media website as well.

Every Tuesday or so, we try to give you an idea of what some of the most popular stories are over on our social media sites.

If you search for Up North News or Up North News WI on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, you can see all the work that the rest of my team is doing throughout the course of the day.

And I can tell you, looking at some information that Sharita Booker, our social media manager, shared with us, a preview of the EAA Air Venture was among the top three stories on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter late last week, in part because of the economic impact.

You see, the last time anyone tried to measure the economic impact of that week-long fly-in, it came to about $170 million.

But that study was done several years ago and a new report is out and updates that figure.

It is now a $257 million boost to the local economy.

Actually, the regional economy when you consider how far away you have to go to get a hotel room or a camping space when you have more than half a million folks coming to town for the event.

Over on Facebook, our most viewed story was about Piwaki's future NFL Hall of Famer JJ Watt.

He recently stopped by a Badger football practice in Madison and also had some thoughts on little brother TJ Watt's new contract extension that'll pay TJ over three years what JJ made in more than a decade in the NFL.

On Instagram, far and away, the post that was most viewed, most shared, and most commented on, dealt with the Trump administration trying to withhold nearly $7 billion from Wisconsin school kids and state Attorney General Josh Call's lawsuit to get those cuts restored.

It's one of about

Two dozen lawsuits that call and other attorneys general have filed as courts continue reminding President Trump that he's not a dictator, not yet anyway, and still has to follow the law, at least sometimes when it comes to providing the funds that Congress had already approved earlier.

And over on TikTok, our top post dealt with homelessness in rural Wisconsin.

It is very much a growing problem and rural communities, of course, are already facing

tough budgets when it comes to helping people who are just trying to keep a roof over their heads.

But while Governor Tony Evers proposed solutions, Republicans in the legislature, a great many of them from rural districts, removed any increase in state help before passing the new state budget.

And as always, you can read up about all of our latest posts on your favorite social media channel, plus our newsletter.

plus our website upnorthnewswi.com.

And in terms of Governor Evers.

and his state budget.

Of course, we're now waiting on him to tell us whether he'll be running for reelection.

Will he run for a third term next year or not?

We will be talking in just over an hour from the recombobulation area.

That would be Dan Schaefer because it's a quiet time in Wisconsin politics right now.

I know I've tried booking some legislators as guests.

We're going to have a couple coming on this week to talk about a bill that would

help regulate cryptocurrency in Wisconsin, make sure that there aren't scams that can rip people off, especially when you see these ATM looking things that let you deal in cryptocurrency, making sure that they really are worth something if you're going to try to do business here in Wisconsin.

So we'll have State Senator Kelder Royes and State Representative Ryan Spaudy on Thursday morning to talk about that.

But otherwise, things are a little quiet out there in politics land.

We'll talk to Dan Schaeffer about that in an hour.

A local update is next for some of you.

Others will visit with Dan Hagen from NewsWatch 12 in Rhinelander.

Live from the heart of America's up north here on Lake Wissota, thanks for making this the place to spend part of your mornings here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Nice to have you back on this Tuesday morning, July 22nd, 2025.

Let's bring in Dan Hagen from News Watch 12, WJFWTV in Rhinelander.

Dan, how are you today?

I'm doing well.

Good morning from Rhinelander.

We got a pretty decent day out there with some

cloud cover.

All right.

Are you still doing your roller skiing?

Kind of your well-in-advanced training for next year's Berkabinder?

Right.

We only have 211 days till the Berkabinder.

Just kidding.

I made that up.

I don't know.

Um, but yeah, I've been roller skiing and, uh, staying active.

I'll be going on a bike ride with my dad today is the plan.

Okay.

Wait, you know, your dad, who's one, you know, continues to beat you in most of these Berkabiners is the biking competitive as well.

Um, yeah, he is a beast.

Um, so, um, he, I only got half of his, of his athleticism.

My mom kind of, you know, washed it out a little bit with her lack of athleticism.

So

you're blaming mom.

Okay.

All

right.

I

didn't know I canceled out.

That's, yeah, I didn't know it worked that way.

That's awesome.

I don't have to make, I don't have to practice my mom's, look at her.

I mean, come on.

Uh, yeah.

Of course I am just teasing.

I know, I know.

But you have, you have another favorite athletic endeavor as well.

And it's.

it's not tennis, it's using those things that used to be tennis courts.

Yeah, so we're celebrating five years of the Rhineland or Pickleball courts today.

There will be a little kind of game going on at 5.30 p.m.

this evening.

And it's kind of remarkable because there's a community just north of us, Eagle River.

They're still trying to get there first.

pickleball courts, but this craze is still kind of sweeping the nation pretty much every community has them.

And man, they are packed every day.

So good for

them.

Okay.

I get okay, so you play so you get it.

And it's it's a I'm gonna offend a bunch of people, but it's a legitimate sport to you the way that you're playing this is this is something you could play.

absolutely.

Okay.

Yeah, I'm I'm working up a sweat and it's a good combination of strategy and just sport, I would say, you know,

there is

a

professional thing.

I think of it too.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

It's

going wild.

Yeah.

That's over there on ESPN 8, the Ocho, you know, from the text line, Jim and Brookfield, Dan, if you are roller skiing in this heat for the Berkey, you are a true believer with Berkey Fever.

So, folks are noticing.

I'm always, I always get Berkey fever, you know, maybe not the month after the Berkey, but then it starts going again, you know.

All right.

Stories that you're following up there on NewsWatch 12 include one that you had yesterday.

Tell folks a bit about, you know, the, when we hear about what's happening in Washington DC and funding for like public broadcasting, I think a lot of folks don't realize that that hits close to home and that includes Rhinelander.

Yeah, so a rhyme later, you know, doesn't have a lot of news.

We have WJFW, my TV station, and we have the local radio station.

And then we have some newspapers that are not as well staffed as they used to be.

So when you hit one of the media partners, it really impacts everyone.

And WXPR is a fantastic public radio station, and they recently lost.

$171,000 because of this Recissions package done by Congress to cut funding for PBS and public radio.

So I think we have a story from Ian that we can play.

On the evening of July 17th, the House of Representatives finalized a $1.1 billion cut for the Corporation of Public Broadcasting, creating financial insecurity for local radio stations such as WXPR in Rhinelander.

Just because you live in a rural area does not mean that you shouldn't have access to information and news that's happening in your community or around the nation, around the world.

So that's an important piece that WXPR offers to the community.

In the Northwoods, many residents rely on WXPR services, ranging from regular broadcasts to community outreach and emergency alerts.

But a 25% cut could put operations at risk.

I think it's easy to assume that everyone is connected and the internet can deliver everything.

But that's still not the case.

Radio is still needed.

Other forms of broadcasting are still needed in this area.

Over 50% of WXPR's annual budget comes from listeners.

But with the finalized cuts, that support is integral to help operations continue smoothly.

We have always really leaned on our listeners, not only for financial support, but also to tell us what they prioritize.

And so we will be leaning on them to say, what is it that you really value about the station?

Development director Phoebe Speer says that they try to build a culture of authenticity at WXPR, highlighting local events that would otherwise get ignored.

strengthening the community in the process.

People really value hearing something that's not an algorithm.

They value hearing from their neighbors, and that's what they get here at WXPR.

They value that, and that's what we offer.

WXPR is holding their annual summer pledge drive from July 18th to the 26th, and they're asking all their listeners for support.

Reporting in Rhinelander, Ian Ferris, News Watch 12.

Public broadcast.

So there you go.

The.

Again, it's a big chunk.

It's not everything.

There's still a lot of listener support that goes on there.

But it seems more than ever, we're now in this age, Dan, where if you want local news, you've got to find ways to outwardly support it.

You can't just turn a dial and expect that everything's going to be as it always has been.

Yeah, you're exactly right.

Quarter of their funding came from the federal government, $171,000.

And I liked what Phoebe said there at the end.

People don't want algorithms.

I fear that it's only going to get worse, you know, with news consumption and how it can be tailor-made and often AI-generated and often nefarious.

So, yeah, more important than ever to support your local broadcasters.

I mean, gosh, you say AI.

And I mean, that should make the case right there because

the stuff that's going on out there you know it's referred to as slop but it it can be serious stuff and you you think well it's just a national thing right now but I mean we're going to be seeing stuff at the local level before you know it and it's more important than ever to

identify and support those trusted journalists like what you've got up there at the TV station so thanks for bringing us a kind of the attention to that matter to a very valuable news outlet there as is your own WJFW.

Appreciate that Dan thanks and keep cool out there on the pickleball courts and on the roller skis.

That's right.

I think I'm going to hit the bike ride today with dad and I got to keep up with him.

So thanks.

Oh man.

All

right.

Biking down the old man yet.

Got to catch him.

All right.

Thanks, Dan.

We'll talk to you later.

When we come back, we'll talk more about those federal budget cuts and ways that groups are calling attention to them.

Long after the ink has dried on the bill, the impact is going to be felt for a long time to come.

And we'll talk more about that in just a bit after the Midwest Farm Report here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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That includes our weekend newsletter Sunday mornings with Pat Gritlow, where there is a question of the week that we like to share.

And this time around, it's about candidate for governor Bill Berrien already dropping $400,000 in advertising to build up his name ID.

because nobody knows Bill Barion outside of his friends and family in his Christmas card list.

So he's got to advertise, even though it's more than a year before the primary for Governor.

And without even knowing if Governor Tony Evers is running or not.

So our question of the week asks what you think of that.

Is it a case of A, you hate it.

In fact, you hate it so much you might even hold it against him for running ads this early.

What about option B, where it's, I don't like it, but I get it.

You know, you gotta, you gotta spend some money to get your name ID out there.

And we gave you an option C, you like it.

You actually like that a candidate shows some initiative and wants to talk to voters right away.

Well, Joe H probably sums it up best.

She didn't just put a, she put like a string of them like a with an angry emoji face after that.

And Mary writes, I hate it in all caps.

Then she writes,

Sorry for the all caps.

Wishing there was a time limit as to when campaigns run, including all ads and mailings and social media.

Mary, how great would that be if we could just have everything limited to a very brief time frame to get all the information out there, but not have it last for a year or four years or whatever?

Linda Z went with option B saying, I don't like it, but I get it.

and she too writes, I still think all campaigns should be limited to six months prior to voting day.

You know, that might actually make for a good follow-up question of the week is, you know, if you could limit campaigns and say, you know, they're gonna be announced here and the deadlines are here, the election day is here, how much should they be?

Because, you know, at some point, if an election campaign is too short,

You're not gonna be a very well-informed voter.

You may not learn everything about a candidate until after they've taken office.

We already know campaigns can be too long.

I'm just saying that they can be too short as well.

So Goldilocks, what's just right?

Is it two months?

Is it six months?

Something like that?

Again, I don't know that we could necessarily pull it off, but if you could, you and your magic wand.

What would it be?

You can always send us a note here radio at up north news wi.com is the email address radio at up north news wi.com.

Let's do a follow up for something we talked about in May.

And it's all about the Enbridge line five oil and gas pipeline that is slated to be rerouted around the bad river tribal community but still running through the bad river watershed where it could pose a danger to Lake Superior.

And back in May, we heard from J. Dean Sonoda of the Sierra Club for Wisconsin and a project where they were trying to break the world record for the most origami fish collected and displayed.

Why collect origami fish and have them displayed as a way to show public opposition.

to line five, not just the reroute, but to the line existing entirely.

And it seemed rather ambitious.

They were going to have to

collect more than 18,303 origami fish, but they put up a website, fishforfuture.org.

And so here's a little bit of what Jadine Sonoda told us back on May 5th about the project, about the origami fish, about standing up to the Enbridge Line 5 project.

And I started by asking her about the Sierra Club here in Wisconsin.

Yeah, so the Wisconsin chapter, as you said, is part of the broader organization of Sierra Club, which operates across the nation.

We focus a lot on statewide issues.

So we've got members and volunteers really across the whole state working on a variety of issues, also focusing on local issues in particular areas.

But yeah, we're really looking at.

climate, conservation, and how all of these pieces intertwine with environmental justice.

And so, yeah, today I'm here to talk a little bit about one of our campaigns focused on line five.

And that line five for folks that don't know the full background on it, it is a pipeline that has existed for decades.

It's getting near the end of its natural lifespan.

And there's certainly been disputes from the bad river community.

And to the point where Enbridge is looking to

reroute the line around the reservation community there, but even rerouting that line jading would not take it out of the potential to do immense harm to the bad river and then, you know, flowing right into Lake Superior, not that far away.

Yeah, absolutely.

There's some incredible maps that look at the route that Enbridge, the pipeline company, is proposing to construct in.

And just the number of waterways that it cuts across, it's really scary to think about.

We've seen the impacts of Enbridge's construction, for example, with Line 3 in Minnesota a couple years ago, and just the devastation of punctured aquifers and frackouts of drilling fluid.

So there's a lot of worry that this construction

and continued operation of the pipeline would result in damages both to the waterways and to especially the sluice in the area and Lake Superior.

And so wherever that line ends up going, it could be a potential threat.

We've certainly seen it spill in other places like Michigan.

Enbridge had a major spill there.

And so let's get into the project that is designed to demonstrate public opposition to, you know, that potential for an environmental disaster.

What is the world record that you're trying to set and how are you going about doing

it?

Good question.

So, yeah, we're really looking for something fun and a way to talk about this.

that's positive and uplifting.

And we were thinking what better way than to try and set a world record.

We are gonna be attempting to break the world record for our largest collection of origami fish.

The record is currently 18,303.

We are working our way up towards that number.

But the, yeah, the intention here is to really find a way to talk about line five and especially the importance of protecting the Great Leaks.

a fun activity, a way to like get people engaged from all age spans from places that might not be interested

in

just like hearing about line five, but think an art project is really cool.

It's been amazing.

I feel like people have been really excited about it.

And kind of like I had mentioned before, we've got a lot of new people who are learning about the importance of protecting the Great Lakes and how line five threatens the Great Lakes.

We've got a lot of schools who are participating.

I've heard of

someone who is bringing this to a nursing home that they work in.

We've got a lot of faith communities who are participating.

Just in general, I feel like it's been a really great opportunity to reach more people and find something that is really exciting and a way to uplift the positive pieces of protecting the water and the watersheds and the areas that we all live in.

So that was JD and Sonoda back on May 5th talking to us about the Sierra Club role in collecting the origami fish.

So here's the update as we got from Megan Whitman out at the Sierra Club.

Again the number that they had to break for collecting fish was 18,303.

The final total they've collected 86,000

262.

I mean, they smashed the world record.

That's like five times the amount that they were seeking to get, which again, they believe demonstrates tremendous opposition to the project.

They said they received fish from all 50 states, plus Puerto Rico, Canada, Mexico, and the Netherlands.

fish were made by more than 70 groups across the Great Lakes region, including religious organizations, schools, scouting groups, climate action organizations, and more.

So a successful effort to get a world record and call attention to a big environmental priority here up north.

Also taking place recently was a program put on by the Group Opportunity Wisconsin to highlight

Donald Trump's big bloated boondoggle of a budget bill and all of the cuts that are coming to regular middle class Wisconsin families to help pay for tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires and Opportunity Wisconsin paired up with a an ice cream parlor in Eau Claire to start a food drive

to call attention to the cuts to nutrition programs.

That's because Sunday was National Ice Cream Day, and the owner of Ramon's Ice Cream Parlor in Eau Claire was part of a food drive that is going to help a local charity, the community table, and call attention to the cuts and food benefits being supported by their congressman, Derek Van Orden.

So through the end of the month, anyone who brings in a non-perishable food item to Ramones and Eau Claire is going to get a certificate for a free cone or dish.

The folks at Opportunity Wisconsin noted that the Trump mega bill is going to cut food assistance for tens of thousands of Wisconsinites to pay for those tax breaks.

Blaine Midtune, the owner of Ramones, has done all kinds of cones for a cause efforts, raising more than $300,000 over the years for various concerns, and he is understandably perplexed.

at how it's become a partisan thing, whether to give tax cuts to the rich or feed the poor.

Really above everything, this should be a nonpartisan type issue at the at the at our local level right here in the Chevalier right here in Eau Claire.

You know, political parties have been founded on the belief that.

small government, but then when small government is in place that it is up to local community.

It's up to the churches, the spiritual institutions.

It's up to our neighbors.

It's up to our local officials and it's up to each and every single one of us.

So when things are good, we have that opportunity to spread money around, invest in ourselves, invest in our children, that kind of thing.

But then we also have that opportunity to give back on a local level as well.

And that's where those dollars are really important.

That's where the community giving is really important.

And that's something that we've really kind of strived for with Ramones in the last nine years since we opened in 2017 as we have a program called Cash for Cause.

And in the nine years that we've been open, we've raised and we've given back over $300,000 to local organizations and nonprofit institutions just like the community table many, many times over with the community table and in other organizations here in the Chipp Valley that are helping residents right here in Eau Claire.

because there are shortcomings.

That's plain mid-tune again the owner of Ramones and the food drive like I said will benefit the community table executive director TJ Atkins says about half the people they serve at the community table are currently unhoused a stat that really jumped post COVID and from Opportunity Wisconsin here's Ethan Reid who talks about how really what

Van Orden and Brian Style are doing amounts to a double whammy, not just the cuts in nutrition programs, but the increase in food prices from things like Donald Trump's trade war tariffs.

Just weeks ago, Congressman Derek Van Orden voted for the Republican tax law that cuts food assistance for Wisconsinites to pay for billionaire and corporate tax breaks.

State officials have warned that as many as 90,000 Wisconsinites could lose snap benefits because of this law.

At the same time, news reports show that tariffs are increasing the cost of food and other goods like the aluminum you see behind us.

Making it even harder for families to put food on the table, this is a double burden no family should have to bear.

No family should have to worry about where their next meal is coming from or how they'll afford groceries, yet that is the current reality for too many Wisconsinites.

Instead of alleviating this crisis,

Congressman Derek Van Orden and Republicans in Congress are taking food from their constituents and raising prices to give more tax breaks to the wealthy.

And so opportunity Wisconsin is again, bringing up the tariffs as well.

And he said the aluminum behind me, what he meant was all those canned goods, they're an aluminum cans.

And so for everybody, whether they're nutrition programs are being cut or not, they're gonna face higher costs all because of the tariffs that the Trump administration has put into place.

All right, a local break is coming up next for some of you.

And for others, we continue with our new regional segment, Way Up North, where we're going to talk to folks who live up in the Bayfield, Ashland, Superior areas about issues that are important and far northwest Wisconsin.

All that just ahead here on the Civic Media Radio Network, I'm Pat Crichtlump.

7.52 now on this Tuesday morning.

Time to go way up north and talk about issues up close to the communities on the Lake Superior shore and other areas of northwest Wisconsin.

And we have a rotating panel of guests who will be joining us Tuesdays at this time, including former legislator Fred Clark, who's along with us.

And in a moment, we'll be talking to Dr. Kate Stolp, the medical advisor for Bayfield County.

Fred, good morning.

How are you?

Oh Fred, I think you are either you're muted or yeah, you might be give that little button a push and tell me if you're still there.

I know I heard you a minute ago and now I'm not hearing about that.

There you go.

That's it.

See, I got it.

It's like the old antenna on our TV had to move the antenna just the right way with the rabbit ears.

You're going to kick the side of the box to make it come on right.

Yeah, that's right.

And again, Dr. Kate Stulp is here as well.

Kate, good morning.

How are you?

Good morning.

It's great to be here.

All right.

Well, Fred, let's have you set this up to talk about a couple of different concerns up north, both tick-borne illnesses, which are being exacerbated by a changing climate, and measles cases, which are being exacerbated by people in Washington DC and elsewhere.

Fred, tell us a bit more about why this is such a concern for you and others up north.

Well, so here we are in the heart of the summer tourist season here in the Bayfield Peninsula and like many parts of the state.

Lots of visitors in the area right now from other states and other parts of the world.

It's a great time of year.

One climate issue we've been seeing, many of us have experienced is the wildfire smoke from some of these massive fires in Canada that of course are highly disruptive to Canadians.

And we've seen the impacts of that here too with reduced visibility and some air quality problems.

But especially what was open to talk.

with Kate Stolt today.

Kate's a friend and she's the medical director for Bayfield County.

And one of the things, of course, they're keeping an eye on is some of the infectious diseases that we all need to be concerned about.

I learned a lot a few weeks ago talking about measles with Kate and her colleague, Dr. Ann Reitz, and thought it might be valuable to hear from her today.

Oh, without a doubt.

Dr. Stolt, tell us more about the rising concern about rising measles cases.

Well, first of all, let me say we haven't had any measles cases yet, but we have seen a big rise.

Everyone knows about Texas.

I think having quite a few measles cases this year, but Texas measles is in almost every state.

in the United States now, and we are surrounded by Michigan, Illinois, and Minnesota, all of whom have had measles cases, including in the upper peninsula, there have been four cases.

And the issue is that I think because a lot of people thought measles was eradicated or there was fear of autism, which is an unfounded fear, and we could get into that if we needed to, but.

a lot of people quit vaccinating their kids.

And we only have 67% of our kindergartners vaccinated right now.

And so if we get measles, it could be bad.

And you have to realize that measles hasn't been around for so many years that doctors haven't seen it.

Health providers haven't seen it.

And so if we get it, it could spread like wildfire, keeping people out of school.

in any of their activities, adults, infants, and seniors are of course the most vulnerable and it's highly, highly contagious, far more contagious than COVID, for example.

And that's 67% of kindergartners.

That is one of the lowest rates in the nation, right?

I mean, it

is.

That is.

It is just an absolutely shameful figure.

And that's why the word is getting out about how bad measles is.

And a lot of people had just, frankly, forgotten about it.

Kate, can you tell us briefly as well about the concerns about tick-borne illnesses?

I know, as I was learning more about a changing climate, we think about so many of the big things.

We don't think about the little things and how drier, hotter conditions

allow ticks, allow their territory to spread and cause more issues.

Right, exactly.

And the biggest concern right now, I mean, we all know about Lyme disease and there are a number of tick-borne illnesses, but there's a new one on the horizon.

It's been around for a while, but now we're starting to see it.

And

we've had two cases this year in Bayfield County called Powassan, named after Powassan, Ontario, where it was first discovered.

And Powassan, the danger with this one is there is absolutely no treatment.

There's no doxycycline.

There's no antibiotic.

There's no viral treatment.

And 10% of people who get it will have either serious neurologic damage or die.

And there's nothing we can do for it.

And so being careful about.

tucking your pants in your socks, using deet containing bug spray, mowing your lawns, all of those things being, you know, taking a shower as soon as you come in from being out in the woods or the grass, really important.

And of course, then the last thing, and we've got just over a minute left to talk about that, would be the wildfire smoke and

Again, Dr. Kate Stulp is the Bayfield County Medical Advisor, a very genuine concern.

It's much more than just a nuisance for very vulnerable groups, right?

Yes, obviously.

We already know, you know, many people, especially older people with lung conditions that can't even go outside.

But we do know that when we look at the increasing numbers of people with asthma that probably the number one cause of that is air pollution.

And the wildfires obviously are making that worse and exacerbating that.

Yeah.

And Fred, I can't imagine that that sternly worded letter from Tom Tiffany and others to Canada did a lot of good in that sense.

Maybe the time to pay attention was a generation earlier when we were talking about a changing climate.

I don't think it did much good at all other than put a stick in the eye of the Canadians who are well aware of the challenges that they face, many of which have been made worse by

greenhouse gases emitted from US industries.

Yeah, we need to be cooperating with the Canadians and not sending them sternly worded letters about about fires.

No kidding.

Thankfully, they did respond with appreciation for the US based firefighters that are going up and helping being helpers, not just winers.

So Fred Clark, thank you for that.

Dr. Kate Stolp, a medical advisor for Bayfield County.

It was a pleasure talking with you.

Thank you for sharing some information with us, Kate.

Thank you very much.

I'm glad we had this chance.

Yes, thank you.

Fred, have a great day yourself.

You as well.

Take care.

All right.

Chad Holmes and Dan Shafer coming up in the next hour here on these mornings powered by Up North News, live from Lake Wissota on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Good morning.

Welcome back.

Nice to have you here up north from Lake WSOTA on this

Tuesday morning, July 22nd, 806 the time right now.

We've got Parker Olson producing this fine program down in Madison Studio A2.

We've got Chad Holm standing by from 98.9 WXCO in Wausau.

And meteorologist Brittany Merlot reporting live from EAA Air Venture in Oshkosh where we have Chester back into the tent.

for sound muffling purposes.

It's amazing how when you get together thousands of planes and people, it gets a little noisy out there.

And so back at the campground, things are a little more.

uh, quiet.

They are all the volunteers and people have gone inside now and now I get to sit here in peace and quiet in my hot tent.

It's getting hot in here.

It is, aren't you?

You got the, you just got the one, uh, fan that you said is.

Yep.

Here's the good old fan.

The trusty old solar power fan.

The only air moving in here at the moment.

Got the windows open trying to stay cool, but you know, it's a beautiful day here.

The sun is shining.

Awesome.

in Oshkosh, but I know a lot of the state is pretty cloudy out there this morning.

Temperatures right now 63 degrees to about 73 degrees statewide.

Winds aren't moving too much either.

that warm front starting to push on in.

We do have a small chance for a few spotty sprinkles that could pop up later this afternoon.

Far, far northwest in the state.

Otherwise we're just going to get warm and muggy today.

The dew points climbing into the 70s alongside temperatures going to the mid 80s statewide to near 90 degrees far west in the state, and it's just going to be feeling very sticky, oppressive out there and only getting worse as we go through to tomorrow.

An extreme heat warning is going to go out tomorrow starting at 10 AM.

through Thursday, 7 p.m.

Because it's going to be feeling like triple digits.

Of course, temperatures are going to climb into the 90s, dew points still in the 70s.

So it is going to be very hot and sticky as we go through the next few days.

And that front's going to spark some strong, severe storms potentially too.

We've got a slight risk throughout the state starting off tomorrow and kind of moving its way through.

I'd say 5 a.m.

Expect some storms to start to spark tomorrow and then by 8 a.m.

It looks like they're going to hit me in Oshkosh.

And of course we are still looking at more sparking up behind that tomorrow night and then waves as we go into the evening as well.

So some active weather headed our way for strong winds, hail and tornadoes are possible in Sweden, but not today.

Today's still decent.

We're just building the heat today.

Good.

Now we talked last hour about what you did yesterday, walking around, seeing things, the Goodyear blimp and other sites.

So now you're going into today.

Do you make a plan?

Because I looked at the schedule.

It is ambitious.

There's a lot going on at any given time.

So do you go through with kind of a list of things that you want to hit or are you just completely freewheeling?

So over the years, I have learned to pick one thing a day that you want to do and just make that your priority and then everything else will fall into place.

If you've got one thing, you'll accomplish it.

So my one thing today is going to be warbirds.

I'm going to be headed over to the warbirds section to see what they're doing.

I know that they got the B29s back again, and it's rare to see them.

So I'm pretty excited for that and see what they have going on there.

They were reenactments and awesome, cool looking planes.

And then I think tomorrow I'm going to go to the aerobatics.

So all the upside down loopy loopy guys flying around.

See what they're up to.

All right.