Is Grandma a Deadbeat? (Hour 2)

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Is Grandma a Deadbeat? (Hour 2)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Tue Jun 10, 2025

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Well, hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

It is 6.06 on this Tuesday morning, June 10th, 2025.

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So thanks for starting your day right here wherever you're catching us.

Parker Olson is standing by in Madison Studio A2.

After we talked to John and Gordy yesterday in A1, we understood that there is a difference.

There

is.

It's

very important.

That's the

big studio down the hall from Mr. Olson.

So I've got a question for you this morning.

What's the over and under on young Mr. Olson?

And when he starts becoming a coffee drinker because somebody was teasing me before the show about, you know, who's awake and who's not and who's had their coffee and who doesn't.

And if you've missed it earlier, Parker.

It's not yet a coffee drinker.

I'm not one to cast stones, not being a coffee drinker till I was just about 50.

But my overunderstanding, I'm going to take the under on that one as far as when Parker goes all in on the bean juice.

Yeah, the under is probably a good call.

I'm trying to see how long I can live on.

National Champion Parker, that's right, Tony Zimmerman.

Tony puts on YouTube, National Champion Parker, yes.

It's not, it's not going to be a nickname.

Tony, it's not going to stick.

He's, he gets to celebrate a national championship, but, but that's it.

Um, and Tony puts in his guests early morning radio.

I think coffee is coming.

Yes.

That could be, well, be the case.

And Alicia, thank you.

Good morning to you saying Twitter is so yesterday.

Oh, couldn't agree more, but she goes on to say, I'm not really a coffee drinker and I'm almost 41.

I survived the Navy without coffee.

Now that, I'd like to know how that happens.

That's impressive.

That is very impressive.

So already folks commenting on social media, YouTube, Facebook, but you can also do so through the Civic Media app or at least you could if I'd open up my window.

I'm doing the two screen thing now.

I started that not long ago.

Oh

yeah.

A laptop over on the other side here because I couldn't fit everything on one screen.

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to reach us as well or text us 855-75 Civic 855-752-4842.

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It is cloudy.

It is kind of hazy, not rainy.

And I still wouldn't.

I wouldn't say we're free of Canadian wildfire smoke up here yet either.

What are the conditions like down there in Madison?

I didn't notice any smoke today.

I don't think.

Might get a little rainy tomorrow.

I think today is like our only day of not rain this week

This this is yeah, apparently our only day of not rain and hopefully we'll get to talk to Brittany Merleau and get the forecast in a bit Tom and New Berlin on the text line ex-navy.

He says the gravy thick coffee yum Now we see what?

What did Alicia do on YouTube?

She puts four liters of Mountain Dew a day that no

Hit the but Parker hit the button for your genuine reaction to that for leaders of Mountain Dew a day.

I'm sorry.

What there it is.

That's right How do you have innards left?

Yeah, I don't think you should be alive

right now.

Oh, I yeah, I'm not really sure how she's processing food at this point Although Roger from Stevens Point jumps on Facebook two to one odds on Parker to consume the nectar of the gods I don't know that put my coffee in that category.

I mean, I'm a pretty good barista, but you know the nectar the gods Tony asking Alicia, do you glow?

The room just lights up when she walks in.

I mean, again, not casting stones for the, you know, starting in college and for at least a couple of years after that, I too, it was Mountain Dew in the morning.

I just don't know that it ever got to four leaders.

So that's a lot of Mountain Dew.

That's a lot of anything.

I know.

But look, look, she's still up early doing, you know, crazy good work.

She's doing all kinds of, you know, volunteer stuff, you know, on the side.

So.

Alicia, it's working for you.

So, you go.

You do that do as it were.

So, do you glow?

Alicia responds.

Now, I wasn't a nuke.

I was on the flight deck, which means she was guiding the airplanes in instead with that mountain dew glow.

On the program today, it's an off year for elections in Wisconsin.

That will not dampen the enthusiasm of delegates who are gathering this weekend in Wisconsin Dells for the State Democratic Convention.

Along with celebrating another state Supreme Court victory, they will be voting on a new state chair to succeed Ben Wickler.

Plus, there will be chatter about whether Governor Tony Evers will run for a third term next year.

We will cover all of that and more with Dan Schaefer from the Reconpopulation Area, Civic Media Political Editor.

Two of Medicaid's most vocal critics, as you know, come from Wisconsin.

Senator Ron Johnson and Assembly Speaker Robin Voss neither would hesitate to criticize or cut a program that has helped millions upon millions of Americans stay healthy for these past 60 years.

The thing is, their complaints lose a lot of credibility when they can't be honest about the number of deserving, hardworking people whose health care coverage would be lost if Trump's big bloated bill passes.

So we're going to review the rhetoric and again make the point that you can be opposed to Medicaid.

You can say you want to get rid of Medicaid, as I'm sure Rob and Voss and Ron Johnson want to do.

Just don't lie.

when you're telling us that you're making hundreds of millions of dollars in cuts and nobody who deserves the benefits are going to have their benefits cut a nickel as Derek Van Orden said because now you've crossed a line where you've lost your credibility and we'll get one example from Medicaid director Bill Hannah coming up during the program as well.

U.S.

Marines have occupied their fair share of land in their history from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Triple E and, you know, let's see, we've got the Philippines and Puerto Rico and Cuba and all of that, but President Donald Trump has a new battle plan for the United States Marine Corps, one that's wildly unconstitutional and designed for maximum division in America's second largest city.

We'll talk about that a bit this morning.

Community editor Christina Laurie talks about a milestone in professional hockey that puts Milwaukee front and center for celebrations of Pride Month.

And Chad Holmes gives us an update on spring high school sports championships and Wausau area news.

All of that coming up along the way as well.

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Let's head back over to the mailbag, which started innocently enough with having, you know, Parker drinking coffee and it led to Alicia's, you know, Mountain Dew addiction.

Tony says, so like Rudolph, but green to guide the planes in that makes sense.

But now Alicia says no, she laid off the Mountain Dew after she got out of the Navy.

That's the good news the bad news is she says last year.

It was at least two monsters a day two monsters a day That's

not as bad.

No, I can comprehend two monsters a day far

more than I

can four liters of Mountain Dew a day.

Yes, I Get like that's like an early morning getcha going and then like mid-afternoon You need one to get you through the day that makes sense to me.

I Don't know.

I mean isn't one of those Mount those energy drinks.

I mean

Has enough caffeine to bring down a horse?

Oh, yeah, but okay.

Well That's a little concerning Tony if you want to have a fun conversation in the chat you need to do it live with your YouTube and She says hey wait, I'm down to to Alani.

What's Alani?

Is that an energy drink?

I'm also no water with

Alani.

Oh wait yours.

You're supposed to be My expert on all things.

I'm very sorry

No, that's okay.

Tony, you know, three kids under five.

I've done coffee, monster, et cetera.

I'm not judging anybody.

Understandable.

Fair enough.

You know your place.

That's great.

Yep.

Yep.

Yesterday was the regular visit to the dentist's office.

And I don't get me wrong.

I love doing early morning radio.

I don't mind the early wake up time.

Again, what is the unofficial motto of this show and why I'm doing an early morning show?

The unofficial motto is I'm waking up that early to pee anyway.

I may as well get paid for it.

OK.

I didn't know

that

was our motto.

Yeah, I probably hadn't subjected you to that one yet.

Anyway, I do try to go to bed early.

Last night was a great example.

8 15.

Oh, that was that was great.

It it feels it's.

what sort I'm looking for decadent to have to close the curtains really tight close the bedroom door close the bathroom door so that no light gets in because the sun is still out and I'm going to bed it's a victory because if I don't like the night before when I you know didn't go to bed you know sufficiently early I'm in the dentist chair yesterday yesterday afternoon and the hygienist is making small talk while she's scraping and picking and scraping and picking and scrape scrape scrape and all that

And I figure at least a dozen times, I had what you would, I don't know if you'd call it a micro nap or, you know, just not, not quite dozing off, but where you, you have to open up your eyes.

Cause I've got, they, they give you a little goggles and I asked for the sunglasses one.

So again, it's dark.

And despite one of the most annoying and sometimes painful things that can be done, I'm like, nope, I'm going to steal a little wink here and a little wink there.

And that just didn't strike me as normal.

But no cavities.

Everything was in good shape.

And you know why the teeth were in good shape?

Because I stopped drinking Mountain Dew a long time ago.

Yeah.

It should not be taking shots at our wonderful veterans.

Like Alicia, who says, you got to remember Navy caffeine runs in my veins.

And she says, Hey, that's my motto for early morning work here too.

See, I knew I wasn't being very original on that.

But I just, it was just a good reminder to me.

You got to get enough sleep.

If you're falling asleep during the dental hygienists doing their thing, maybe, maybe you need to fix something

about that.

Yeah, that's pretty bad.

That's

a pretty bad sign.

And again, for people going, well, you should fix your sleep.

Like, yes, I know.

Doctor's appointment in two weeks.

We'll figure it out.

The Stanley Cup playoffs.

Not going well for any of us who'd like to see Edmonton beat a team from Florida.

The Panthers were big winners last night in game three, six to one.

So they've now gone up two games to one.

Game four in the Stanley Cup finals will be Thursday night in Miami.

The NBA Playoffs are tied at one game piece and that resumes tomorrow in Indianapolis.

The Milwaukee Brewers, again the bats fall in sleep against Atlanta this time, opening that three game series.

Atlanta beating Milwaukee seven to one.

Milwaukee's only run came in the third inning.

Joey Ortiz hit a leadoff double and scored on a William Contreras two out single.

but again that's all the offense that they could muster.

So they will pick it up again this evening for game two of the series and that again has a pregame that starts at 6.05 on several stations across the Civic Media radio network and then tomorrow the three game series wraps up with a matinee

And so tomorrow, the pregame will start at 12.35 in the afternoon.

So that's tomorrow.

This evening, it'll be at 6.05.

Again, catch the Brewers versus Atlanta, game two of that series.

We'll follow some of the day's headlines coming up here in just a bit first from the heart of America's up north, live from Lake Wissota.

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Again, Dan Schaefer coming up a little later this morning as we talk about the upcoming State Democratic Convention and some other political notes out of the Milwaukee area.

One of them being the ongoing crisis of lead in the water and lead paint chips in some of the

older school buildings there.

And you recall just what is it just a little over a week ago?

Was it that Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr.

I always have to pause and do that again.

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr.

I mean, I got to be honest, I still after all these years, I still find myself going President Donald Trump.

But yeah, this is the world we live in now.

Health Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr.

said that there was a team on the ground in Milwaukee.

That was either a lie or he just was making stuff up, didn't know what he was talking about.

And so the the lead crisis is still an issue there and it's still not being addressed by Kennedy's Health and Human Services Department.

How do we know this?

Because he's busy with other things.

Kennedy yesterday removed all 17 members of a scientific committee.

that advises the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on how to use vaccines.

I think that deserves the Parker reaction button as well.

Let me do that again.

I'm sorry.

What?

There it is.

And replaced them with his own picks.

You will recall that Kennedy was one of the nation's leading anti-vaccine activists before becoming the nation's top health official.

I have to say that one again too, and I don't mean to twist the knife, but honestly, Kennedy, who was one of the nation's leading anti-vaccine activists before becoming the nation's top health official, has not said who he would appoint to the panel, but said it would convene in just two weeks in Atlanta.

This just has, you know, WWE written all over it.

Although it's typically not viewed as a partisan board, the entire current roster of committee members were Biden appointees.

So why get rid of them all?

Well,

because Kennedy wrote, without removing the current members, the Trump administration would not have been able to appoint a majority of new members until 2028.

He said a clean sweep is needed to reestablish public confidence in vaccine science.

I gotta read that one again.

A clean sweep is needed to reestablish

public confidence in vaccine science?

It is better with a question mark at the end of it.

A clean sweep is needed to reestablish public confidence in vaccine science?

So basically, in a nutshell, the people and no hyperbole intended here, but the people who quite literally killed tens, if not hundreds of thousands of Americans through their negligence and their inability to understand science.

are now in charge of science.

These are folks who got really unhappy about basic safeguards during the pandemic and they came across on the news as so angry, they're so angry.

Please keep in mind media that the people who believe in science are still equally angry if not more so at the damage they did to humanity and the damage they continue to do.

We have measles

killing people now.

We have measles spreading.

We have starving children in Africa literally dying because of this administration.

So, you know, as much as we try to be shiny, happy people when we can, the people who were so angry about basic safeguards are now the ones running the show in the Department of Health and Human Services.

What's not to get angry about?

And then I see this headline.

as we transition to what's happening in California and with migrants and things.

Headline in the journal Sentinel.

Can Trump ignore the courts?

Here's what polling shows Americans think.

No.

No.

Why would you even put that headline in there?

Can Trump ignore the courts?

Here's what polling shows Americans think.

That's not news.

That's not even remotely close to news.

That's chatter.

The news is a president of the United States is ignoring the courts.

What should happen next?

Not, well, the people that like him think he's doing a good job.

Same goes for bank robbers.

In the meantime, in California, Donald Trump is taking the next step in his actual insurrection.

Yes, he's been referring to the folks in California as insurrectionists, the president who pardoned actual insurrectionists.

This is the next step in his insurrection of the United States.

He's sending another 2,000 National Guard troops along with 700 Marines to Los Angeles Escalating a military presence that local officials and the governor don't want and the police chief says creates logistical challenges for safely handling protests Here's what we mean by logistical challenges if you've maybe seen the photos Trump sent these troops in Without any advanced planning without any any thought on how to feed them

where they're going to sleep.

You see them all laying in like storage room floors inside of buildings and things.

If anybody is truly disrespecting our troops right now, it's Donald Trump through using them, deploying them under false pretenses, ripping them away from their homes and their home bases where they could be ready for genuine emergencies for this made up one over protests because of stepped up enforcement of immigration laws.

And

The thing that I think people did a good job pointing out yesterday is this.

There are far more people who were deported in any given week under the Obama administration and under the under the Biden administration.

More people were deported.

But it didn't require the National Guard or Marines because of the way they handled it.

They handled it the way law enforcement should be done as opposed to what Trump is doing on purpose making this a show.

This is all a show, and that's why you're having Marines activated.

Not yet deployed, but trust me, if one Marine sets foot on the streets of LA and has to fire a weapon, it will mark a new stain that can never be erased in American history.

Keep your eyes on that.

Christina Laurie is on the way.

Also your Scotty summer text to win contest keyword is coming up at the top of our next hour here powered by Up North News on the Civic Media Radio Network.

The Midwest Farm Report is next.

Welcome back 635 pack right low in Chippewa Falls Parker Olson in Madison Christina Laurie joining us in a moment and folks watching us on social media We'll see that we've got a website on the bottom of the screen there that says up north news wi.com slash sports dash newsletter

sports dash newsletter.

And that's something Christine is going to be talking to us about in just a bit.

But I did want to solve one of the Parker coffee mysteries here, where on YouTube, Alicia said, Hey, I'm down to to Alani.

And then Tony asks, does Parker drink bubbler?

Those have as much caffeine as a cup of coffee, according to the marketing.

And then Alicia says Alani is like bubbler.

No, and Tony says ah But here so it's bubble but bubbler is different than is it bubbly at the one at Michael buble?

No, no, no, yeah different thing Okay, okay where he wants to call it buble, but it's actually bubbly.

Yeah, but it's not the same as bubbler Not the same things that you you don't want to yeah, you don't want to get the wrong one there and give it Give it to your little kid here Timmy have some bubbler.

It's just water straight water guys

Enough of the water.

But apparently not the bubbler has got the caffeine in there.

Anyway, I mentioned the sports newsletter because Up North News is now a seven day a week joint.

All day, all week, you can open up your inbox and find a newsletter of some sort.

The weekday ones with Wisconsin news and features.

And then the Sunday morning one about Wisconsin politics that I put together.

And Christina has now been putting together one related to sports.

So again, Up North News W I dot com.

slash sports dash newsletter and she joins us now to talk more about that and then some but we'll start Christina.

Good morning by asking where you are on the coffee versus water versus Mountain Dew dial of morning beverages.

Oh, wait a minute.

Sorry, Christina didn't hit the right button.

There we go.

Where are you on the beverages in the morning?

I have a very unpopular opinion.

I'm so boring.

I only drink water.

I don't like carbonation.

I don't

like coffee.

I don't like alcohol.

I'm just, I am a bore.

So I'm sorry.

I contribute a lot to this.

When I did work in morning TV, as adventurous as I would get, sometimes when I needed an extra jolt, I would go for some iced tea.

That's

about as crazy as I get.

Okay.

All right.

Sounds good.

Oh, I thought Parker was reacting there.

Sorry about that.

Also, let's start with a little bit of sports on, you know, a bit of a bittersweet note.

Roger and Steven's point puts on Facebook.

Excellent article, Christina, on coach Pettigau.

He will be missed for folks who might have missed that story.

Tell us about that real quick.

Yeah, so he was the winningest coach in Wisconsin High School boys basketball history.

He coached at Cuba City, small town of just about 2000 people.

The head Wisconsin men's basketball coach Greg Gard actually grew up.

going to his basketball camps.

Later, he became a mentor of his.

He was also really close with Bo Ryan.

If anyone ever watched any of the high school boys' basketball state tournaments, if Pettigo's teams were not playing and winning them, it seemed like Cuba City was frequently in that tournament.

I believe that he...

ultimately won three state titles in his 50 years as head coach there.

But, you know, even in his later years, when his team didn't make it there, he would still be on the mic at those tournaments.

And just everyone who I talked to that had ever come in contact with him, or even just watched him, loved him.

So, I mean,

It reminds me of this quote that I like that says, people will forget what you did, what you said, but they'll never forget how you made them feel.

And that really seems to be his legacy.

He, he literally put Cuba City on the map.

And by that, I mean that, you know, one of the things that people like to do during the tournaments is brush up on their Wisconsin geography.

And yes, there were a number of times where I, like other people go, where's Cuba City?

And you'd pull out your Rand McNally and you'd find out where that one is or peccatonica was another one that people would be like, wait, what is that?

Where is that?

all kinds of great ways to learn about Wisconsin just through the schools and the tournament.

Absolutely, and it's funny as coming from someone who was born and raised in Illinois, I had heard of Cuba City and it was because they were so good at sports,

so.

Mm-hmm, yep.

Although it reminds me, we also, I always love when people are like, what's spash?

Where's Spatch?

Now, Spatch was never used in tournament lingo for Stevens Point area senior high, but still the best name ever for a high school for Spatch.

Oh, it took me a while to figure out what the heck that

was.

I still like it to this day.

Let's see.

In other sports notes that I wanted to ask you about, we have an interesting intersection here of professional sports and Pride Month, and it's based out of Milwaukee, out of the hockey world.

Yes, so this isn't really a collaboration we see far too often.

Unfortunately, I think there are some gay professional athletes that are not out, is what I'm trying to say.

But in Milwaukee, we have a really brave Milwaukee Admirals defenseman, Luke Prokop.

He made history back in 2021 as the first NHL contracted player to public...

publicly come out as gay.

And then in 2023, he made history again when he officially took the ice for his first game with the admirals, becoming the first American hockey league's athlete to play in a game.

And then just this past weekend, he served as Grand Marshal of Milwaukee's Pride Parade.

Really awesome.

He received a great community welcome and

especially now it's so important to have allies as well as really great role models in the LGBTQ community because we see what some leaders are trying to do and trying to act like Pride Month doesn't exist.

So

it's nice to have some very, he's still, you can't question that he's a man.

He plays one of the most rough sports out there.

And then he's out there waving the rainbow flag, which is just fantastic.

It shows people everywhere.

You can be whoever you want to be.

Yeah, exactly.

We're talking to Christina Laurie and she puts together not just the Monday through Friday, Up North News Daily newsletter, but a new all sports edition that comes out every Saturday.

And I know this past Saturday, for example, you know, you were

talking about the, you know, the week of streaks and how nice things have been going for the, for the crew before this past weekend.

The past few days have been a little rough here.

I want to say that symbolically it started with Brandon Woodruff taking that line drive off the elbow on his way back to recovery.

Oh

man.

I just, I don't you feel so sorry for him.

Like

you

really, you couldn't script a worse combat.

I mean,

it's just he's doing everything right and he's just getting the worst luck But but really out of all of the challenges the Brewers are having this season pitching I mean you would think that that would have caused them some problems based on the number of guys they still have on injured reserve and That's not their issue.

They've been stellar with pitching.

They have such a deep bunch there.

They just really need

some offense.

Yes, yeah.

The ongoing reaction to Aaron Rodgers signing with the Steelers has been very satisfying.

At no point have I ever heard anybody say, oh, we should bring him on for one last season and let him retire as a packer or anything like that.

Instead, it's more memes like, oh, finally Aaron Rodgers gets one more chance to crush Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl dreams the way he did back in 2011.

Well, I also saw an interesting stat so if so history could be made in that Packers Steelers game because if somehow which I Hate to even say this because I don't believe it's going to happen one iota But if the Steelers did beat the Packers Aaron Rodgers would become the first quarterback ever to beat all every team in the NHL

Yeah, oh really

yes, so

I mean, we know he beat every other team when he was a Packer.

We

know a lot of that history was not made these past two seasons with the Jets.

But we have to give a shout out to our QB1, Jordan Love.

He immediately, when reporters asked him what he thought of being able to finally face

Aaron Rodgers, since they've never played each other professionally.

He said, and he seemed very genuine.

He said that he's looking forward to it, and he hopes they can swap jerseys after the game.

So that's our guy.

I'm so proud that he represents the Packers now.

We had

some questionable morality in recent quarterbacks.

Yes.

The definite breath of fresh air, if you will.

I did want to ask you to move away from sports for a second here, but I know how much you love to write about the UW and UW Madison.

And so I'm sure it was with great pride that you noted that there's a new global ranking out there.

And first off, here's a little bit of trivia for folks who wondered.

I didn't know this.

Worldwide, how many colleges and universities are out there?

How many universities?

21,462.

And there is apparently an annual ranking from the Center for World University Rankings.

And the headline on the article here from you is just 0.2% of universities are better than Wisconsin according to a new global ranking.

That had to feel like a good story to write up.

It did and especially now because it shows how interconnected all universities are.

Right?

Like we're on this international list that comes at a time when our president is trying to demonize international students and limit them getting here.

But there are large reasons why Wisconsin is so high on this list.

Wisconsin has about 10% of its student body that are made up of international students.

They bring a ton to our university.

They bring a ton to our faculty.

And so Wisconsin ranked very highly on that list.

I don't have the list up in front of me.

I think they were like around 30.

the 30th in the world, which again is, you know, the top 0.2% and 20th in the United States.

You know, and broken down by category includes and again, this is worldwide, 38th in education, 34th in faculty, 45th in research, 115th in employability, again, out of more than 20,000 universities worldwide.

And you

know what's interesting is that they keep climbing because I was extraordinarily nerdy in high school.

So I was very familiar with the top 50 list of American colleges.

And so this was back in around 2010 when I was applying to colleges.

And I didn't even apply to Wisconsin because they were not ranked high enough.

in my mind at the time.

And instead, I went to University of Illinois.

I'm from Illinois.

My entire family went there.

That was not really a question that I'd end up going there.

But now in the past three years of the US News and World Report rankings, they've been tied with Illinois in those rankings.

So that's really impressive that they just keep climbing up.

I believe that they're going to surpass them.

one of these years soon.

I can totally see that.

Uh, folks want to hear and read more from Christina.

Of course, we told you about the sports newsletter, the daily newsletter, but it says here on my little radio schedule that tomorrow evening in the seven PM hour, you're going to be joining Pete Schwabba on his nightlight program to talk a bit more about sports I would imagine.

That is correct.

All right.

I'm

going to be making the rounds.

So I, I wonder how much crossover there is though between people who are up

at this time listening to the radio and then people who are listening to the radio at seven

been wondering the same thing.

So you you get on there tomorrow evening in the seven p.m.

hour with peach waba and try to spread around the the notes about getting on board this new sports newsletter up north news wi.com slash sports dash newsletter Christina Laurie.

Thank you so much.

Have a great day.

You too.

Thanks so much for having me

on that.

You bet.

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I want to take you higher.

Family Affair, and thank you for letting me be myself again.

Sly Stone was 82 years old today, and I believe it was John Roach, friend of ours on Facebook, who put up a clip to Sly the Family Stone doing Doris Day's Kei Sarasara, which you think, what can you do with that?

Turn it into a soul gospel version.

that I would highly recommend as well.

So again, happy trails to Sly Stone.

Let's carry on with today's history lesson, bringing in Dan Hagen from NewsWatch 12, WJFW and Rhinelander.

Daniel, how are

you?

You hit me with the Daniel Patrick.

Good morning.

And that's reserved for my mother only.

I thought that was

Dan Daniel.

That's my so my sister called me Daniel growing up because she wanted a sister so bad.

Well, here's the thing, my mom goes from

What's your name again?

Yes, yes.

I know.

You ever get the dog's

name in there?

I get the dog's name.

Yeah, we don't have a dog.

Girls probably.

Yeah.

I would throw the dog in occasionally just for comedic effect when I couldn't remember which name I was shouting at.

Like Sam, Casey, get over here.

You, get over here.

Dan Hagan is with us now and let's continue the history lesson.

Happy birthday to the lead singer of the Charelles, Shirley Owens, is 84 years old today.

This, of course, is the Carol King masterpiece.

Will you love me tomorrow?

that she would do herself later on, but the Charelle's had it first with Shirley Owens.

The United States Naval Academy graduated its first class of students.

So congratulations to the Naval Academy, Alicia and all the other Navy vets out there who I'm sure are marking the day in one way or another.

On this day in 1898 in the Spanish-American War, U.S.

Marines began the invasion of Spanish-held Cuba in the Battle of Guantanamo Bay.

The number one song this week in 1972 is one that I wanted to play just for Dan and Parker here.

You may have heard of Sammy Davis Jr.

I doubt that you heard this song, especially when it was on the radio all the time, like it was for me when I was eight years old.

Here's Sammy Davis Jr.'

's number one hit this day 53 years ago.

It's

a great eight-year-old song, I feel.

Yes,

absolutely.

Yeah.

I do feel like I've heard this before,

actually.

You probably have.

But.

Do

you think that would really fly today?

A grown man saying, hey, I got candy for you.

Definitely not.

Did you play Candyland while listening to the song?

Yes.

Yes, that would be much more appropriate, you know?

Let's see, so that was the number one song in 1972.

Born this day in 1922, Judy Garland.

Born Frances Gumm in Grand Rapids, Minnesota before she went on to become a child star and would play Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz at the tender age of 17.

All right, this next musical clip is from TV history and Parker here was not familiar with this.

Dan, I don't know about you.

If I mentioned the series finale of the Sopranos,

Do you understand the cultural touchstone?

I do.

Okay, so

let's set this up for folks that the Sopranos, this little mob drama series and the family is in a diner and they're eating and people are coming in and out and there's a song that he put in on the jukebox and the last thing you see is Tony Soprano looking up.

Here are the last 10 seconds or so of the Sopranos.

They're eating and people coming in.

Daughter comes running at, I think, one point.

And you're thinking nothing of it.

It's like how we're just grabbing things up.

Tony looks up.

And that's it.

That was it.

It cut to black.

All kinds of people thought there was a technical issue.

Until they realized no that's exactly how they wanted the series to end and Parker's reaction to this yesterday Went like this.

I'm sorry.

What?

I just I Pat I know that I'm missing like however many years of context that the show had but that's a terrible ending

Well,

that's what

a

lot of people thought Dan

I didn't know if it was necessarily reviled or not.

Wasn't there a big controversy whether did he die

or something?

That's the thing.

They wanted you because again you see these ominous people.

You knew people are always out to get him.

Did the series in fact end?

Was he like killed in the next moment or was he not?

And he just continues to live with the danger of there's always people out there who want to kill him.

And the show, the show writers decided not to answer that you decide what happens next to say, it's a, you know, choose your, choose your warrior.

That's such a cop out.

I don't

like it.

I kind of like it.

I think it should be open ended because it leaves some room to the imagination.

I will say the Seinfeld family.

I love Seinfeld just did not like it at all.

I feel like not like the show at

all.

That one and how I met your mother were two of the most unsatisfying series finales.

ever.

You know, you've got some masterpieces like MASH and New Heart and some others.

Cheers wasn't bad.

But then, and the Sopranos was at least controversial.

I don't know that anybody talked about one more than that.

So we've got all of that going on.

On the national day calendar, it's National Ballpoint Pen Day.

And

it's

also, it's also Black Cow Day, the beverage, in other words, another term for a root beer float.

It is iced tea day and it's

Egg Roll Day.

Dan, can you hang around a bit?

I understand there's a nice little fundraiser that folks are doing that you're talking about up in the Rhinelander area.

Are you available?

Yeah, let's do

it.

All right, you do that.

And then we'll do the seven o'clock news.

Then we'll have the Scani summer text to win keyword all two more hours to go as we get rolling on one of these Tuesday mornings powered by UpNorth News.

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At 7 0 6, it's nice to have you back here up north on this Tuesday morning, June 10th.

Coming up later this hour, we will discuss the Medicaid cuts contained in President Trump's big bloated budget bill.

Yes, they are cuts.

We'll hear from the Wisconsin Medicaid director with one example of many to keep in mind when people tell you there's no cuts in there.

Let's connect some dots, shall we?

So we'll be talking about that coming up in just a little bit.

Dan Hagen from NewsWatch 12, WJFW is with us.

We're going to talk about silent sports around some lakes up north and contrast that with a story we talked about last week about

banning wake boats, you know, the kind that can kick up really big waves and possibly do damage.

But now those bands are going to be tied up in lawsuits.

And so we'll talk a bit about that with Dan coming up.

But first meteorologist, Brittany Merleau is here as well to talk to us about a day that might be the best one of the week weather wise.

Yeah, I mean,

unless

you want to be out playing in the rain all the time.

But assuming most of us would like at least one day off from the rain, this might be it.

This is going to be it.

Today is the day.

We've got a high pressure system down to the south that is slowly building in.

So we're seeing some sunshine already across the state line south.

More and more sun will work its way north as we go through this afternoon.

I think the place where the clouds might hang on the longest is going to be in the Fox Valley.

But by this evening, they will clear on out of here.

We're not looking at any rain in the forecast today.

It should stay dry.

Again, this high pressure system building in now.

It does want to hang on a little bit for a lot of the state tomorrow, but then.

We've got another front pushing through and another low pressure system right behind it that of course is going to bring some more showers and storms late tomorrow night.

Overnight and into our Thursday, of course, that starts the unsettled pattern.

We have chances for more showers on Friday and even lingering a little bit into Saturday too.

And as that rain and that cloud cover moves in, it's going to drop our high temperatures.

So today we're going to go to the low to mid 70s all across the state, maybe even near 80 far west by the Mississippi and then some mid 60s far northeast, mostly sunny for a big chunk of us.

And of course, the last light of sun.

Sunsets.

Oh my gosh, 922 were hanging out of that last light.

So much, much longer days and then of course tomorrow very warm.

We're going into the mid 80s far south to mid 70s far north.

So nice and comfortable.

Very comfortable indeed.

Rob says good morning from Tigerton, partly cloudy, 55 degrees, just over a half inch of rain yesterday, hoping for sunshine today so I can be doing my lawn mowing jobs in Wittenberg.

He said yesterday the weather felt like.

October cool and rainy.

I actually wore a hoodie to my dentist appointment yesterday.

It was it was very comfortable most of the time.

We talked we played a little Sammy Davis Jr.

last segment and he said 1972 is famous not just for Candy Man but his appearance on All in the Family when he kissed Archie Bunker on the cheek.

That was again just this groundbreaking moment in TV which sounds really quaint now but it was a very big deal back then.

I wanted to ask you as well Brittany before we get to this kind

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What, uh, what do you got?

Sure.

I'm a coffee 100%.

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It's probably the last four to five years I started that.

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Now I've switched to coffee.

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Rob says diet, sun drop.

Well, of course, because it was sun drop days.

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So there you

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So thank you, Brittany.

We'll check in next hour.

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Let's see, Tony says, Dr. Pepper needs to be mentioned.

I don't drink as much now, but I used to drink a lot.

I have to say, I don't know the difference between all the artificial sweeteners and things.

I definitely am not a, I'm no longer a Diet Coke, Diet Pepsi fan, any of the diet sodas.

But this trend of zero sugar ones, Dr. Pepper zero sugar, there's Barks zero sugar.

And then the one I drink most often is Coke zero, Coke zero sugar.

I don't know which one is different, but I am worried a bit Parker and Dan that maybe I'm going to glow as much as Alicia does for that four liters of Mountain Dew a day.

You know that as

pertain the as pertain my I've heard bad things about it But then you read more and it's like oh you have to drink seven Mountain Dews every single day for it to actually be bad for you

So

I just I'm just a coffee drinker.

I just you know,

oh, I know but there's plenty of artificial sweetener in my coffee, too I mean again Parker, what's the one thing I don't want my coffee tasting like?

Oh

Coffee,

the correct answer is coffee.

Yeah, exactly.

Flavor that baby up, you know.

All right, Matt, what do you

put in that thing

then?

Let's get it out.

My favorite is the peppermint mocha one from a coffee mate or whatever, which used to be just a Christmas thing, but apparently enough of us with a sweet tooth, they now sell it all year long.

So there's usually a little peppermint mocha.

All right, so what I

do is I do whole milk and I do some maple syrup, you know, keep

it

standard.

Maple

syrup and coffee.

Maple syrup.

Oh yeah.

All right.

I like that.

Uh Dan Hagen with us from WJFW News Watch 12 and when we were talking about stories that he's been covering or following up in the Rhinelander area, there's one that kind of uh ties in from a story we talked about last week from up in Burnett County where uh two different landowners out of state landowners on a lake up there uh have sued because the local I think town board up there

put in place a ban on these wakeboard, these wake boats, these boats that are modified to give you an extra big wake that you can basically, you know, surf on, put your, put your boogie board on there, whatever the case.

And they're trying to sue to get thrown out.

Quite conversely, Mr. Hagen, you're covering a story about, I guess I didn't even think to appreciate this.

Up in your neck of the woods, there are things that are classified as non-motorized lakes.

and trying to encourage more of what are called silent sports around those areas.

Yeah, that's right.

So this couple from Sheboygan County were vacationing in the Northwoods for a long time.

They bought a place in the 90s on a non motorized lake.

They didn't even realize it was a non motorized lake until they had the property of their hands.

The last name is Strube and they've been here so long and they've appreciated the silence so much, the serenity of it all that they've started

a natural wonder fund through the Rhinelander Community Foundation and what they're trying to do is promote more silent sport activities and what they're doing with this fund is they're connecting donors to investments in silent sports.

This could be a bike trail, it could be a disc golf course, it could be just some infrastructure for a park.

It's just a way to kind of bolster silent sports because there's a lot of investment in the motorized sports I'm not an ATV or a UTV or I hear it's fun I'm over a silent sports person myself So it's just kind of cool to see because Ryan Lander could use more of this investment

Oh, absolutely.

And again, it takes all kinds.

And in fact, funny that you say that, I realized I saw a headline and I hadn't called it up yet.

The new tourism numbers are out.

This always throws me because National Tourism Day is like right before Memorial Day.

And every year we do the story and we have to always say in the story, the new tourism figures are not out yet.

And then a couple of weeks later, they're out.

So yes, in fact, here they are, the governor's office put out that

along with Tourism Secretary Ann Sears, that Wisconsin's tourism industry saw its third consecutive record-breaking year of economic impact, garnering $25.8 billion in total economic impact, or about $70 million a day.

And again, all kinds.

You need all of it out there.

There will be disagreements over what you can do where.

But I mean, especially up where you are, the diversity of activities is what's giving us that $70 million a day impact.

That's a big deal.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

And fishing is a big part of that.

We've got to keep our waterways clean.

And you know, Vilas County, if you've ever been up there, Pat, they have this thing called the Heart of the Vilas Bike Trail.

And it connects Saint Germain all the way to Mercer on these paved bike paths.

It's really like...

some of the best bike paths in the country.

And it's underutilized.

No, I love the expansion of bike paths.

It was really cool here when an old rail line was paved and became part of the old Abe Trail running up along the Chippewa River here.

But getting back to the strobes who are putting together that fund, again,

the

Natural Wonder Fund, right?

Yeah, Natural Wonder Fund.

And it's part of the Rhinelander Community Foundation

So if you want to learn more about it, go to rinelandercommunityfoundation.com.

Nothing tricky about that, rinelandercommunityfoundation.com.

And that's how you can learn a bit more about that.

Although I'm sure I mentioned Burnett County, I'm sure there are other lakes up around your area where these wake boats are and people hear about these bands and are wondering, hey, wait a minute, can I get one of those bands on my lake?

I'm sure there's disagreements in some spots.

Yeah, I've been to some listening sessions from our local legislators, Senator Maryfelskowski and Representative Rob Swaringen, and it is like the most controversial topic.

It doesn't matter what time of year it is.

Just lately, it's been a lot of people harping on that because they've been trying to get some regulations on it, but there's been really no agreement in the legislature.

So I know a lot of people are passionate about it on both sides and it seems like it can be really damaging to a lake if it's a small lake.

Oh yes and so again a time and a place for everything and there certainly are lakes that are capable of handling you know these you know wakes of the size but

It's not just that the wakes affect you going, let's say, left and right, but also going down.

And if you're in a shallow lake, it also affects the lake bottom, which stirs up things.

you know, again, we we just want all things in moderation.

When you when you have that diversity of activities, you make for a beautiful place to play, even a beautiful place to live.

Dan Hagen does and that's why he's doing the news up in Rhinelander at WJFW News Watch 12.

Thanks for sticking around a bit and telling us about the the work to promote silent sports out there.

Always good to be here, Patrick.

All right, Daniel.

We'll talk to you next week.

Have a great day.

Yeah.

All right.

Sports right now at 719, not a stellar performance by the Brewers scoring only one run.

Atlanta scored seven.

I believe that means they won.

Yes, they did.

Seven to one, they'll do game two of the series tonight in Atlanta.

Once again, coverage begins at 6 0 5 across the Civic Media radio network where we do things here in the mornings powered by Up North News.

I'm Pat Crightlow.

We'll be right back.

Welcome back to mornings powered by up north news or as Tony puts it on YouTube powered by up north news and an assortment of caffeine True guilty well except for Parker.

It's also you know powered by water Just nothing water, baby.

Nothing but what not even one of those little flavor packets crystal light or anything like that.

No,

and I'll tell you what Pat The water that we have here in the Madison office is not good.

It's bad water.

It's so bad

It's in water.

I know.

I mean, no, it's the like the water coolers ones that they bring in.

It's

well,

some of those, you know, I mean, probably I'm not saying that's the case where you are down there.

But some, you know, drinking fun, who thinks to change some of those filters have been changed since the Ford administration, you know, so.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, but I'm sure I'm sure it's healthy.

I'm sure it'll do you no harm whatsoever.

Assembly Speaker Robin Voss was on upfront the WISN TV program that is shown statewide on Sunday mornings.

And once again, after the usual lines about, you know, whether he and Governor Evers can reach an agreement on the budget, he was asked about the big bloated boondoggle of Donald Trump's budget bill.

And it's massive cuts and as if he was concerned about the cuts to Medicaid and snap food share benefits and Voss's words, I'd rather just read them.

I don't care to play the audio the way he says it so dismissively.

He says, I'm not at all worried.

I think there is so much hyperbole and exaggeration from my friends on the left.

There are not cuts for anybody who's watching.

There are not cuts in Medicaid.

When they tell you there are cuts, it is untrue.

And that's a line they continue to stick with, you know, including Donald Trump, who promised in February during a Fox News interview, he said, quote, Medicare, Medicaid, none of that stuff is going to be touched.

One day later.

He endorsed the House Republican budget plan that cuts hundreds of billions of dollars in Medicaid, more than $600 billion.

And of course, they don't want to stop there.

You know, Ron Johnson has said as much.

So have others.

Kevin Kramer, the senator from North Dakota, said in one interview, how much waste front abuse is there in Medicare?

Why don't we go after that?

I think we should.

Senate Republican leader John Thune said, I think anything that is waste, fraud, and abuse are obviously open to discussions, which gets us to one of the main points of this program about getting rid of waste, fraud, and abuse.

You, dear listener, you are the waste that they want to cut because you are not a billionaire.

And so the money that you pay in taxes that might come back to you through Medicaid or through

better schools or clean air.

They want that money going elsewhere to the very wealthy as a tax cut.

Not coming back to you as some kind of tax rebate, but actually leaving you and going to people much wealthier than you.

So who all is in this waste fraud and abuse category?

Well, Wisconsin Medicaid director Bill Hannah was also on up front on WISN.

And here's one example that he gives that I think a lot of folks can relate to.

Let's give a listen.

I think we can look at and think about who is going to be impacted by what's in the House bill.

Let me give you one real clear example that somebody would not be excluded.

We know that individuals 55 to 64 are the least likely to be working and on Medicaid, but that doesn't mean they're not contributing.

You think about somebody who is caring for their grandchildren so that their adult child could work.

We know childcare is a challenge in this state.

That individual...

would no longer be eligible for Medicaid.

They would have to stop caring for their grandchild and go find a job so that they can maintain their Medicaid.

I think that that's specific.

That detail is really important in this conversation instead of broad sweeping generalizations that nobody will get hurt.

Exactly.

100%.

Bill Hanna, the state's Medicaid director, warning against broad sweeping generalizations.

Because again, when you do that,

And you have, as a state report said yesterday, roughly 63,000 Medicaid recipients in Wisconsin would fall under these new harsher requirements for work or for reporting.

Basically, it's all red tape.

It's more hoops to jump through under the guise of waste, fraud and abuse.

But that's 63,000 people in Wisconsin in varying degrees of health or caregiver status or disability or whatever the case.

that would either have to go out and find employment or would have to stop providing the care that they're providing or fill out even more paperwork online or by paper so often that they finally give up and they lose their benefits without Republicans actually saying that they're cutting the benefits.

What Robin Voss and the others are saying to those 63,000 people on Medicaid in Wisconsin?

is you are all a bunch of lazy couch surfers, and that you should get off your butt, put down the box of bonbons, turn off the soap opera, and go out and get a job you lazy hippie.

That is the message from Robin Voss, and he can say, oh, this is hyperbole, and this is, he can say something's a lie all day long, except that he hasn't told you the truth about something.

He hasn't shown you

if you can actually cut Medicaid $600 million based on waste, fraud, and abuse.

I would like to see that.

Again, just show that to us.

Don't give us one or two examples, because in any example of anything, you'll find somebody who is, you know, wasting or squandering the benefits that are out there.

That is not an example give us the example that amounts to again, you know that much money being cut because if you can't then you're kind of giving away the game here and letting us know that you can't actually show waste fraud and abuse but if I show you somebody who looks lazy if I show you somebody who looks scary and I tell you just to multiply that by tens of millions

Maybe you'll be fooled into thinking that we're actually cutting waste fraud and abuse.

They're not.

They're cutting you.

You are the waste that they need to cut to help their friends.

Still ahead, we'll be talking to Dan Schaefer, political editor from Civic Media, about the upcoming State Democratic Convention.

We will visit with Chad Holmes from 98.9 WXCO in Wausau, and we'll give you another chance at hearing our keyword this hour in the Civic Media Scotty Summer Text-to-Win Contest.

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Among the stories Parker is about National Dairy Month.

And of course, we we make a lot of cheese here.

And not not every flavor cheese is for every taste that's out there.

But there are some folks who love their cheese, shall we say, pungent.

Downright

stinky, if you will.

And that would include, perhaps the stinkiest of all, Limburger.

You ever try it?

Limburger.

I don't even know if I've heard of that.

You've never heard of Limburger?

I don't think so.

It is...

According to Merriam-Webster's dictionary here, surface ripened aged and famously malodorous, as in smelling very unpleasant.

It was traditionally in Northern Europe layered between slices of dark bread with raw onions and horseradish or mustard and washed down with good local beer.

And more than one person has quoted that Limburger, you know, at first, at first sniff really is kind of the stinky feet.

Yeah, sensation.

I'm reading foot odor is what I'm finding here.

Yeah.

That's not a great and yet there are people who swear by it.

And so Food Network, as they list all of the iconic eats and drinks from across America's Dairyland, does a little focus on Limburger as well.

America's lone remaining Limburger Cheese Factory is a chalet cheese co-op, and they still make and distribute more than a million pounds of Limburger annually.

And they're all located in the town square in Little Monroe.

And I can't be too

critical.

I mean, I wouldn't try it.

But I also know that we have come a long way from, you know, just processed, you know, American cheese, you know, there's, there's cheddar.

I've now learned to appreciate an aged cheddar.

I've really learned to appreciate an aged Gouda.

I used to never want blue cheese, you know, put blue cheese on a hamburger on a salad or whatever.

I'm like, that's mold.

Why would I put mold on there?

And then of course, I tried it.

And I liked it.

I love blue cheese on everything.

So there, Limburger.

That's the thing for y'all to try next is, is challenge your cheese taste buds for something new and see if you can go up, up the scale a notch, maybe not all the way to Limburger, Limburger, but ease yourself in so.

Yeah.

So again, that story is in our daily newsletter at UpNorthNewsWI.com.

Tony says, Oh, I love Gouda.

Yes.

And about the Limburger, he says, sounds fancy and terrible.

Yeah.

Matter of opinion there.

We also have a Sunday newsletter that I put together.

It's called, not all that creatively, Sunday mornings with Pat Krightlump.

And on those Sunday mornings, you can get some of the best of what we covered for the week in news, but we also have a question of the week.

and it actually came from something that we were discussing on air here with Chad Holmes and Chad will be along in our next hour to talk to us about stories he's covering in the Wausau area where there is discussion on whether it is time to move from a mayoral form of city leadership to a city manager and other communities have tried that or maybe have gone back and forth to a city manager.

And at the county level, there have been professionals who have been appointed as county administrators as opposed to an elected county executive.

So that's our question of the week is, you know, for your city and county, would you want somebody elected, somebody local, or do you want to get above the politics and have a professional who's appointed?

So mayor or city manager.

county executive or county administrator that's in our weekend Sunday morning newsletter and of course you can answer it by email as well just send us an email radio at upnorthnewswi.com again radio at upnorthnewswi.com and share your thoughts on that.

Coming up on the Civic Media radio network later today Dan Schaefer is pinch hitting for Maggie Dawn.

Now Dan will also be with us during the next hour

But before he hosts and fills in for Maggie Dawn this afternoon, he's going to publish his latest column for civic media and the re-combobulation area.

And a lot of it is about the chatter coming up for the State Democratic Convention, and he's going to give his take on some of...

how those conversations should be going.

And then he'll talk all about it when he fills in for Maggie Dawn with his guest cohost, Angela Lang from Block.

So quite the dynamic duo that you can catch this afternoon from four to six, right after Todd Alba's show from two to four across the Civic Media Radio Network.

Up North News belongs to Courier Newsroom, a pro-democracy newsroom with many newsletters and podcasts and series, not just this fine radio show, but here's a new one that they're starting.

It's called Represent, and it follows Deja Fox.

She's an activist, she's a political strategist, she's a digital content creator, and now she's a candidate.

She's running for Congress in Arizona's seventh congressional district.

And so our Arizona outlet, the Copper Courier, is going behind the scenes to document Deja Fox's insurgent campaign.

And so if you want one of those, you know, peek behind the curtains, what's the, Parker, what's the sports version on ESPN?

Is it where they go behind with a football team all season long?

Hard knocks.

I think I don't think there's a question mark on there, but yeah, I okay Stump the producer always always a great game to play anyway, you get you get the same version but of a political campaign for this campaign in Arizona and again for that you can search for courier newsroom on YouTube and then scroll down the YouTube page to the videos for the new series called represent

along with all the other newsletters and great things that are there at couriernewsroom.com.

We talked earlier about how Robert Kennedy Jr.

has just fired the entire vaccine advisory panel for the Centers for Disease Control.

What could go wrong, right?

As we know, the cuts that the Trump administration wants to make are even bigger than that.

And so here's the latest shoe to drop.

This one from a Milwaukee Journal Sentinel story saying that nine Wisconsin clinics could lose funding for HIV testing after the latest funding freeze and a flurry of grant related changes nationwide.

The article says the Trump budget proposal for 2026 looks to make cuts to HIV prevention

in clinics and community organizations.

The High Impact HIV Prevention and Surveillance Program for Health Departments covers HIV testing, prevention medication costs, and treatment for other sexually transmitted infections like syphilis, gonorrhea, and chlamydia.

The Centers for Disease Control awarded $400 million to 59 health departments nationwide for this five-year grant.

and Wisconsin in the first year alone received just under $2 million.

The second year of that grant was due to start on June 1st, and while Milwaukee clinics are waiting on word about the future of their CDC funding, they're also trying to make plans for how to keep services available.

The journal Sentinel quotes a clinic operations manager for the Brady East sexual health clinic as saying they were slated to receive $50,000 per year, but will use emergency funds to keep free services except accessible while they look for alternative funding options.

Chris Allen, the president and CEO of Diverse and Resilient, says the pause in funding undermines efforts to address the health disparities and violence that our community faces.

And again, it just really leads to the uncertainty.

We've spoken in the past with Tanya Atkinson from Planned Parenthood Advocates of Wisconsin about the ongoing efforts to slash their funding, which does not go to any abortion care whatsoever.

It goes to the basic health care services that they provide in their clinics located all throughout Wisconsin.

And these basic health services and now HIV testing are in danger.

People say, well, if you got emergency funds, you'll be fine.

They're emergency funds.

They're going to run out.

And so we can either, once again, depend upon the benevolence of billionaires who will eventually fund these things, or we can decide that that's a better use of our tax dollars.

then giving tax cuts to billionaires.

The Journal Sentinel list of other clinics that are facing cuts from the Trump administration include Benedict Center, the City of Racine Health Department, the Eau Claire City County Health Department, Empowering Community Action Initiative, Outreach, Inc., and UW Health.

And again,

In every one of these places, there will be somebody that says, well, gosh, there's so many places.

There can't help but be some kind of waste, fraud and abuse in these things.

Maybe so.

Maybe so.

So you do what?

You investigate and you prosecute when you find it.

You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater or the baby's vaccines as the case may be.

But that's exactly what the Trump administration is looking to do.

And again, not to save you any money.

Not to save you any money.

Just to make your life just a little bit harder.

One more note from out of the Milwaukee area, the old Pap's Brewery in Milwaukee's Brewery District.

And I bring this up somewhat for personal reasons because for a very short time in between jobs in the Milwaukee area while Sherry was going to med school, I worked

in the offices of the of the old PAPS brewery.

And, you know, again, just a really cool district, a lot of history there.

And a lot of folks are familiar with the big PAPS neon sign, you know, in five big neon letters on a catwalk, basically, that goes between two two buildings there.

And apparently, according to an article in the Milwaukee Business Journal, the PAPS sign could be trading at neon for LED lighting.

The proposed lights would be laid out exactly the same.

The Brewery Neighborhood Improvement District, which is the steward of the sign, is attached to the bridge that connects what are now the Malt House Apartments and the Brewery House Inn and Suites.

And I have to say it, now I haven't been there for a few years here, but again, there are few things more satisfying.

then seen when you can take an old neighborhood and old buildings and fix them up and have like an entirely new neighborhood without having to get out the wrecking ball.

I know I've mentioned the Walker's Point neighborhood in downtown Milwaukee previously, where again, when we lived there 30 years ago, it was a dump.

There was just all old buildings, old warehouses, and it is now fixed up so nice that you can

definitely spend a weekend at one of one of the nice boutique hotels down there, great restaurants, good shops, and that's certainly what they're trying to do up in the Milwaukee area as well.

So up there at the Old Paps Brewery, the Milwaukee Historic Preservation Commission this month recommended approval of a request to repaint the lettering, but they have not yet taken a final vote on the lighting, hoping that they would be able to do that because otherwise if they have to repair the neon glass inside,

You've got workers, you know, dangling 80 feet up in the air and a task that can cost a few thousand dollars compared to the much lower less energy using LED lights that could go up there instead.

Again, tan is our keyword for the Scani summer text to win contest.

And we'll have more coming up mornings powered by up north news on the civic media radio network in just a bit.

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We've been talking a bit about coffee and other morning beverages and Dan Hagen mentioned earlier that his dad puts maple syrup in his coffee.

Alicia chimes in.

Dan sounds like my dad.

He would put maple syrup in his coffee too.

Really?

Honey in your tea, yes.

But maple syrup and coffee.

That sounds a that's unique.

I believe it.

I think that'd be good.

I believe this is our own James Kelly up in Chippewa Falls, who says Dr. Pepper drinkers are built different.

We're the only ones who will crack open a soda in the office at 7 a.m.

with no shame at all.

Oh, yeah.

That's right.

Have a little shame, please.

Nope.

Nope.

And on our question of the week, Alicia says that she says, I could see the advantages of having both a manager or an administrator and an elected executive, which right, that's why we made it our question of the week.

Cause I mean, put yourself on a city council and which would work better for you or, you know, as a, as an interested president of your city or county.

Because I'm not saying there's one that's right or wrong.

It might be what you have in your community might be a little different.

And that was the point that was being made by Shereen Stewart and the Wasaw pilot and review last week that maybe in Wasaw right now, it's time to talk about a city manager form of government rather than an elected mayor.

Parker, I would imagine that you are a fan of Brian Anderson who calls Brewers games on TV.

When he does it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, funny that you say that because yes, the, you know, TNT isn't doing the basketball anymore.

And I don't think TBS has really fired up the baseball yet.

And I know Brian Anderson's been busy on so many things, but you're wondering, well, where is he?

Why isn't he back yet?

Turns out because I haven't watched any of the French open on TV.

He was making his debut at Roland Garros as calling play by play of the French Open, including that longest ever men's singles final the other day, which went five and a half hours.

Yeah, that's a lot.

Which I've heard described as, you know, the best ever final for the French Open.

which I would have wanted to see that already, because I don't dislike tennis on TV.

I just don't seek it out.

But if you like Wimbledon, I will watch that if I come upon it on the TV.

Had I known Brian Anderson was going to be doing that match, I definitely would have tuned in.

Because I mean, he is far and away, my favorite, play-by-play.

He's far and away the most talented play-by-play guy out there.

But he says, he told the Milwaukee Business Journal that yesterday he finally returned to his home in suburban Waukesha County.

And in a phone interview says that he will resume his brewers play-by-play announcing day after tomorrow.

He'll be back on Thursday.

He will be once again with Sophia Minert and Bill Schroeder calling the games.

Jeff Levering has been doing a lot of the play-by-play.

in Anderson's place.

And Jeff Levering has been there how many years now?

Five maybe?

Is it more?

Something like that.

Yeah.

Probably as long as Valley Sports probably.

He has really grown into that role.

And again, maybe I was just holding his youth against him when Jeff Levering and Lane Grindel started doing some of the radio work for the Brewers.

And Lane is now handling things very capably with Josh Maurer.

Josh Maurer, again, I'm a big fan of his when he's doing the radio play by play.

But I think Jeff Levering's done a really nice job there, no matter whether you're on TV or radio.

But it's going to be really nice to have Brian Anderson back in there.

Yeah, it's kind of like the comfort food of brewers play-by-play announcers.

Yeah, he's definitely the voice for a lot of people

Yes.

And I see Sophia Menor got some other kind of award in the off season.

I apologize.

I don't have it in front of me.

But again, just I really like her.

No nonsense.

Just gets the work done, you know, and then conveys it in such an easygoing way to to the TV audience.

I just think we have a tremendous team and obviously we we miss Bob Euker terribly.

But you know, these are just

real professionals we have.

I, I hear a lot of play by play, you know, either on the radio or I hear highlights elsewhere.

And I just think we're very fortunate here between what we have here.

We've got, um, uh, you know, Wayne Larry doing the Packers games, who I, I was a fan of his when he was calling Chicago Bears games.

I actually enjoyed listening to Chicago Bears games back in the.

back in the late 80s, early 90s when Wayne Laravie was doing.

I was so happy to see that he came to the Packers now.

Anyway, Brian Anderson also talked about working with John McEnroe and he likened it to working with Duke.

Again, just somebody who is a real veteran, somebody who's very

colorful, shall we say?

Brian Anderson called him funny, whimsical.

You never know where he's going.

You never know what rabbit hole he's going to go down.

He speaks his mind, holds nothing back.

I had a blast with him.

I really enjoyed sitting next to him.

Oh, no, I'm sorry.

That was Parker Olson after his first week describing working here on the morning show.

I don't remember that.

You don't?

Oh, I don't remember that.

I've got to hear in writing some player that could have been AI.

I don't know.

I'm not really sure.

But he will he will be back in the booth later this week.

So that'll that'll be very nice.

I was going to but I think I'm running short on time here.

I was going to share one more story.

I didn't have time to do with Christina Laurie, another one of the stories that's added to our website that she put in.

The headline is called Wisconsin Dells unveils the state's first mountain coaster.

And what is it?

And she goes on to explain this first mountain coaster, but I'm going to leave you up in the air about this.

No pun intended about the coaster since we're coming up on the eight o'clock news here, but I wanted to dangle that in front of you to do a little crowdsourcing out here.

because Sharita Booker, we used to visit with her on Tuesdays and she'd talk about some of the most popular stories of the past week.

Well, I'm just gonna handle that now because Sharita has really enjoyed and the listeners have enjoyed her talking about events that are coming up for the following weekend.

And so we will hear from her now on Thursdays.

But I wanna hear from all of you as well.

So we're crowdsourcing this thing.

What are the things that are coming up in your community?

this coming weekend, a parade, a festival, a dairy breakfast or whatever that you want to give a little shout out for, give a little plug and say, Hey, if you're ever in, you know, in my zip code, this is the thing that you're going to want to do.

So again, send us a note radio at up north news wi.com or put something in the comment sections here.

And we would love to hear from you in our eight o'clock hour, chat homes and Dan Schaefer and the updated forecast from Brittany Merleau here on these mornings powered by up north news on the civic media radio network.

you

Live, across Wisconsin on Civic Media, you're listening to Mornings with Pat Craiglow powered by Up North News.

Now, for my Lake Mesota studio, here is the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Craiglow.

Good morning, 806.

Nice to have you back here on this.

What is it?

Tuesday morning, June 10th.

Look at the screen, Pat.

You put the date right on there.

Tuesday, June 10th, 2025.

Nice to have you here up north, live from Lake Wissota on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Let's see, we've got Parker Olson in Madison Studio A2.

Meteorologist Brittany Merlowe will be here in a second.

Chad Holmes will be.

Chad, did I ask you about studio letters last time around?

Oh, you're muted by the way, so well you take care of that.

Yes, you did.

What did we come up with?

Oh, you didn't care.

That was it.

Did you ever find out the letter for Wausau?

No,

I mean, I probably should make it up myself.

I can put a sign on the door.

I could do that.

I think I got that within my realm of responsibilities and I think that's maybe, maybe next time we talk, I'll have something that has right on that door right behind me.

I don't know.

I got a feeling I'm going to keep an eye on my text line over here.

I think Mr. Mathers will be racing to take credit for the letter before, before you know it.

Uh, let's see on the text line from Lori in Hayward.

Good morning, guys.

My dad and my grandpa would get up early and oftentimes stay up late to go fishing, but they'd always come home for a hot cup of coffee with a little splash of Canadian club.

or perhaps it was a little splash of something from grandpa's secret little brandy bottle.

Uh, we were all young kids and probably wouldn't know the difference.

Um, I think you would know the difference if there was some Canadian.

Well, I suppose when you're a kid, you don't know what's in the coffee, but we're, we're not advocating for that here at all.

We're simply passing a lot.

Oh, look at Tony.

Chad is in studio G for great.

Aww, Tony.

I'm

gonna have a

big G on that door come next time.

Tony Chad doesn't care.

How do you like that reaction?

No, it's

wonderful.

I like that one.

That's good.

All right.

Well, while I wait for that certain text from Mr. Mathers, let's turn to Brittany Merleau with a forecast that has today as potentially the driest day of the week.

Yes, it does.

It's finally here.

That

one day,

right?

One day, 24 hours in the break of rain right now.

Of course, there are still little sprinkles out there in central parts of the state, but barely, barely, barely, barely, mostly cloudy statewide.

There is some sunshine far south.

Enjoy it.

If you haven't, we are going to see that.

continuing to spread north.

So more and more clouds continuing to clear on out of here.

There is some patchy fog and Tomahawk and Phillips this morning.

Temperatures are in the 50s up north to about 60 degrees down south this morning and highs today are going to make it to the low to mid 70s all across the state.

Maybe some 80s far west towards the Mississippi and then maybe some mid 60s far northeast.

But otherwise a beautiful day becoming mostly sunny.

Of course that last light at 922 this evening and tomorrow even warmer.

We're going to the mid 80s down south to mid upper 70s up north.

We'll start the day off with some sunshine, but there are chances as a front drapes right through the central parts of the state for some more showers.

And then some thunderstorms roll through late at night, and especially far south in the state.

But we'll keep tracking that for you.

It's a little bit unsettled as we go through the rest of this week.

So enjoy it now if you have time.

So I may get in my hammock for more than 60 seconds.

You will.

Today is the day.

I don't think you were.

on yesterday when I told the story of how happy I was to get all the yard work done just before, you know, this thunderstorm cell moved in.

We'd see it on our phones and like mo faster, you know, and I had been hoping to maybe spend an hour in the hammock after that.

And you see the rain is almost there.

So finished the yard work, jumped in the hammock, took the obligatory photo of my tennis shoes and the lake behind me that I'm in the hammock and then the rain started.

So, I'm hoping today I get more than 60 seconds in the hammock this afternoon.

Here's hoping.

You deserve it.

You deserve it.

After all that yard work too, I mean, yeah.

That's right.

Oh,

that's the landscaping.

It's beautiful.

Good.

So, those darn weeds come back.

Thank you, Brittany.

Have a wonderful day.

You too.

All right.

Chad Holmes is with us from 98.9 WXCO.

We'll talk a little news.

Talk a little sports.

You want to start with the sports?

You got spring postseason stuff and you're

You're busy today even.

Yeah, heading, heading your, heading your direction.

Yes.

You know where Augusta is, right?

Sure do.

Yeah.

Heading to Augusta.

Basically, when things wrap up around nine o'clock as sectional baseball going on today, a lot of sectionals around the state of Wisconsin.

There are 14 tournaments basically and the winners advance to the state tournament next week and we're covering the marathon high school baseball team here and Have a game at one o'clock and if they win they would play at four o'clock as well So looking forward to that and was very happy to hear Britney say was gonna be dry today.

Yes Definitely, that's the thing is the spring high school sports.

I mean, especially baseball softball early in the season so many games are canceled so many practices are moved indoors and

deserve the season to end on a nice note and then it all comes to a head for the championships next week at Fox City Stadium in Grand Chute.

Do you go out there for that?

Yeah, I've been there in the past.

It's really cool to be able to

to go to a beautiful facility like that and any of the state tournaments.

I mean, I know it's a big thrill for the kids involved and the coaches and the parents, but it's also a big thrill for those of us who get the opportunity to broadcast as well.

So, you know, knock on wood.

It'll be a good day today and hopefully be able to head on over there next week.

Yeah, girl softball.

Meanwhile, the championships begin tomorrow in Madison.

Yeah, that's it's actually kind of cool because one of the schools around here DC ever says never been to state before and they're heading to the state tournament and it's always something very cool about a group or a school or a community that has never had that opportunity to be able to do it for the first time there's some Perennial powers that are always there seems like every single year and sometimes it does get probably a little bit old I know for the individuals involved it never gets old, but when it's like oh, they're back again here this year.

They're back again this year, but when you

see somebody new and the excitement that goes around that, it's fantastic.

And of all the state tournaments, I think in some ways the softball was the best one.

I went there about 10, 12 years ago in generally.

And it's like the perfect size because you basically get the Goodman field filled up to the rim.

It's a beautiful facility where the Wisconsin Badgers play.

You like to have that big game feel and you really have it with the softball.

It was really a fun experience the year that I was.

was able to go down there and broadcast.

I have a stupid boy comment here.

You know, I used to baseball, watching baseball.

And at some point, I want to say freshman in high school was the first time that I, you know, stumbled upon, you know, not intentionally, but come across this field.

And there's a softball game going on, high school girl softball.

And up until that point, because again, there's no ESPN back then where you're seeing these, seeing these young women, you know, throwing 50, 60, 70 miles an hour.

And so it was my first exposure to high school level girl softball.

And I was so hooked right from the, I was so impressed with the, with the pitching especially.

And you, you see why the sport has grown as popular as it has, why so many people were watching, um, you know, the, the college world series last week, for example.

And actually usually at this point where when the baseball ends, I get some time off from the play by play, but.

A few weeks ago, one of the parents on the softball time, and I was over broadcasting the softball game, said, well, we got this American Legion softball that just started a couple of years ago.

Would you be able to broadcast some of our games?

I said, well, if you can help us get a little bit of sponsorship.

We might

do

that.

So they came through with a little sponsorship.

So tomorrow night I'll be doing a American Legion softball broadcast here on WXCO as well.

But it shows that that's growing as well because that's something that's new.

I'm sure you've heard about American Legion baseball for a long time.

We had not had anything along the lines with the softball as well.

And also real fast this year here in Wausau, I know for sure.

I think this league has been around maybe.

at least for a year.

The Northwoods League, of course, is the Woodbat league.

And we have the Wasa Woodchucks here.

And of course, there's teams all over the place.

Well, Northwoods League has started a softball version as well.

And Wasa has a team called the Wasa.

Good night.

And that's a lot of girls and a lot of guys are excited because, as you said, it's a very exciting sport.

So now here at athletic park they have woodchucks games and now they also have wasa ignite games as well That's getting underway.

I think this week if I'm not mistaken.

So It continues to grow and it's great to see those opportunities I don't know if I told you this story about my mom was a really big into athletics But she went to school in the 60s in the late 60s and up to this day I mean she went on and in Wittenberg.

She won the Wittenberg golf

championship for women's multiple times back in the 70s, and she played softball forever.

She still says to this day how much she wishes she would have the opportunity in high school to play sports, to play softball and basketball and stuff like that.

But that was before the early 70s when Title IX came through and gave the opportunities for girls and women.

You know, it's not that long ago that the girls did not have the same equal opportunities.

And I think it's important to recognize the folks that brought that to us.

I mean, the good that was done through that.

Oh, you mean those people who are discriminating against men, you know, to hear the Trump administration go after DEI right now?

Yeah, anyway, let's set that aside for a second.

The girls soccer championships are coming up next week in Milwaukee.

And then finally, the boys golf championships wrap up today at University Ridge in Madison.

So very busy postseason out there.

Actually, it was funny.

We were talking earlier during one of my local segments because my in-studio engineer crossed the wave.

His dad is the golf coach at wasa east and wasa east qualified their team for the state tournament So they're involved in it yesterday was round one today is round two.

So he's out there at University Ridge walking around with the wasa east Golf team as well.

So there's

all these little connections going on right now.

Yeah.

So I mentioned that in our Sunday newsletter, our question of the week really stemmed from our conversation last week about the editorial in the Wasaw pilot and review advocating for considering a city manager form of government instead of a mayoral.

And I wondered if do you think that sparked more discussions in Wasaw proper?

Was that more of a one off and it's not going to get any traction?

What do you

I think, well, it's going to be a process because obviously...

folks like us bring it up and I think Shareen is within the umbrella of what we do.

It does bring up thought, it brings up discussion, and this is something that's been around here in Wausau for a long time.

As long as I've been doing these kind of programs is that there has been a few folks that have been pushing for this and it's been pushed back, but I do think that maybe just right now the dysfunction in certain areas of our city government is leading to maybe a little bit deeper thought.

on it but I do think that as we talked about last week I mean there everything always looks the old grass is greener kind of feel but there's issues with the other way of doing it as well and I think hey having the discussion is a good way to do it but if it maybe makes things tighten up a little bit here at City Hall maybe it makes certain folks think a little bit about what they're doing at City Hall maybe that would be a good thing as well.

I will never forget my in college covering the Eau Claire County Board as a young cub reporter.

And they had an administrator's name was Ron Wampler, real professional guy.

And he would all the time have to correct there were like one or two people on the County Board.

And it was almost like, you know, the one of those Gilda Radner characters on weekend update, where she just start to spout off on something.

And Ron would be like, Fran, Fran, we covered that Fran is on page 12 of your booklet.

Fran, turn to page 12.

Oh, never mind.

So sometimes it's nice to have a little professional help in there from time

to

time.

Chad Holmes covers everything around the Wausau area.

New sports and more for 98.9 WXCO.

Listen to them on the Civic Media app as well.

Safe travels for the game today.

We'll talk to you a little later on.

Thank you, gentlemen.

All right.

Thank you.

Still ahead, we're going to be talking to Dan Schaefer, political editor for Civic Media and of course, founder of the Reconpopulation Area about the upcoming Democratic State Convention this weekend in the Dells.

From the heart of America's Up North, live from Lake Wissota, thank you for making this a place to spend part of your mornings.

I'm Pat Krightlow.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

The Brewers could only manage one run yesterday.

It was a William Contreras two-out single that scored Joey Ortiz and that's all she wrote for the Brewers one run Atlanta.

beat the Brewers 7 to 1 last night.

They will play again at American Family Field pregame beginning at 6 0 5 on several civic media stations and then a day game tomorrow with a pregame that gets underway around 12 35 12 40 tomorrow.

So a little afternoon baseball tomorrow.

in the Milwaukee area if you're around or across the Civic Media radio network if you'd like to hear the game.

Florida walloped Edmonton in the Stanley Cup finals last night six to one so Florida is now ahead in the Stanley Cup finals two games to one over Edmonton game four is Thursday night in Miami in the NBA playoffs in the finals the

Oklahoma City Thunder and the Indiana Pacers will face off tomorrow in Indy for continuing that game, that series, rather that is tied at one game apiece.

Tomorrow here on the program, we will have Earl Ingram.

We have a

Melissa Kay as well.

So we've got James Kelly.

It's like a big civic media day.

You've got Earl Ingram with the stories from Southeast Wisconsin, James Kelly with the stories from Northeast Wisconsin, and Melissa Kay from the Wisconsin Deles, sorry, Wisconsin Deles, Wisconsin Rapids area.

But more importantly, of course, when it's Melissa Kay, we're gonna get an update on the

pigeons.

I don't

have a sound right now.

Pigeon quest.

Yeah, I know we don't have an echo thing for the live mic, but we'll just have to do it in unison.

Pigeon Quest!

I'm clipping.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

That's a keeper.

So Melissa Cale have that until Melissa just doesn't show up one of these Wednesdays at six fifty and just says I'm I'm just she'll be too busy taking care of the pigeons.

That could be it.

Yeah.

I mean maybe the FMLA covers pigeon care as well.

You never know.

Also we'll have our homeroom segment tomorrow.

We have the the departing and the incoming leaders for the Eau Claire educators union teachers union and Eau Claire talking about the school year.

And the challenge is there, and I believe we have a representative from the Green Bay area as well talking to us.

So a very busy Wednesday ahead here on the program.

Hope that you will join us.

Now, if you can't join us live, you can certainly join us by way of, you know, the podcasts.

And there are many ways to get that, of course.

You've got the Civic Media website.

You've got Apple.

And I had to admit a couple of weeks back.

I really didn't know much about Spotify because, again, being in what I like to jokingly refer to as the cult of Apple, just assumed, oh, everybody's got an iPhone.

Everybody's there.

Well, no, say all the Android people.

And in fact, of all of the podcasts that are out there, Apple has about 33% of the market, Spotify 37% of the market.

So I have been missing the boat on this.

So again, while we'd love to have you listening on the radio, if you got to do the podcast, head on over to Spotify and look us up.

You can just search for Wisconsin politics and you will see this show come up be a subscriber Take it along with you and not just on Spotify.

Of course.

There's there's I haven't heard of these cast box Overcast I've heard of that one buzz sprout Do you use a particular podcast app at Spotify?

I've never heard of any of those things you were just saying

No, I don't either.

And of course, again, the website, Facebook, YouTube, tune in the Civic Media app as well.

So many ways to get us.

And just when you're

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All right.

So I left you hanging last hour about how in Wisconsin Dells they have unveiled the state's first mountain coaster.

At the Waterpark Capital of the World, it is a 4,000-foot-long thrill ride with no water involved.

Unlike traditional roller coasters, mountain coasters are gravity-driven, Christina Laurie writes, which means they use the natural incline to propel you down the track and you control your speed.

And unlike many other weather dependent attractions in the Dells, these coasters can operate year-round even in the snow.

Plus,

mountain coasters are designed with the environment in mind so you can enjoy nature without hurting it.

And then she gives the address.

It's on County Highway A in Wisconsin Dells to learn more about the first ever.

Let's see.

I clicked on the website here.

Just see what I get.

It's actually called WisconsinDellsMountainCoaster.com.

experienced Wisconsin's only mountain coaster.

And I mean, I've I've seen these kinds of things before.

Again, on mountains that you ever see on social media, they've got them in like, I don't know, the Austrian Alps or something like that.

And you much like Bob sledding, you go, who in their right mind would do this?

But there are thrill seekers out there who want to do this kind of thing, would you?

This seems

really fun.

I would love to do this, actually.

Yeah,

really?

Yeah, this seems

really cool.

Well, I guess the one thing is, if it crashes, you won't really know.

It's gonna happen so fast.

I don't think that is that possible?

Is it possible to crash off of one of these things?

Oh, I'm sure.

Buddy, I work in the news business.

I've seen more ways for things to go haywire than, I mean, I used to refer to my AP, you know, teletype, the little news ticker when I was younger, and it was a literal teletype.

I used to refer to that as a death machine because all these ways would come over, you know, a 28-year-old Montana woman died when, and he looked going, how could that possibly happen?

You know, but it does.

So I'm, I'm again.

Urging everybody to ride the mountain coaster.

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Dan Schaefer right after this.

Hey, welcome back.

Let's talk to Dan Schaefer, Civic Media's political editor, and of course, the founder of the Reconbobulation area, where he writes columns, has guest columns, and tells us about all things in Wisconsin and including Milwaukee area politics.

And he's got another column that is coming out very, very soon.

And talking about the State Democratic Convention, we'll get into that a little bit later.

Mr. Schaefer, good morning.

How are you?

Good morning, Mr. Kraitlow.

Doing well.

How are you?

Doing well, thanks.

Take note that the state budget continues to be at an impasse.

I have, of course, given my two cents on Republicans walking away from the negotiating table with Governor Tony Evers and whether there was actually anything new or surprising about it.

But maybe I'm a little too cynical, Dan.

Here's where you tell me how both sides were negotiating in good faith and they just couldn't get it done.

Well, that was the news coming in the middle of last week, late last week about the governor and various different entities within the Republican-controlled legislature releasing statements saying that they had reached this impasse.

And I've heard a little bit of rumblings about what happened.

I'm not exactly sure what it was all about just yet, but it just seems like Governor Evers was ready to meet Republicans halfway or whatever it is.

on some of their tax cut goals.

They're one economic policy, a tax cut, and was hoping for, as he outlined in his statement, funding for K-12 education, childcare, and UW system.

Clearly, the Republicans did not do enough on that.

I've heard some rumblings in particular on childcare that they really did not come to the table.

in ways that many people were hoping for, especially considering how dire the need is on that particular issue when we're looking at a quarter to a third of childcare centers potentially facing closure later this year because of this.

So obviously you would want to make that a priority in these negotiations, but it seems they've fallen apart and it seems that maybe what will happen next is Republicans will have the same process that we've had for the last three budget cycles in this era.

of divided government will have the Republicans writing the budget, and then Tony Evers will come in with his partial vetoes, and then the Republicans will get mad about those partial vetoes in the end.

Can we see this whole show playing out yet

again, Mr. Krautlow?

Yes, without a doubt, we most certainly can.

So when Speaker Voss was being interviewed on WISN TV's upfront, he he took offense.

He, you know, clutched his pearls, as one might say, and

uh said well I mean you're talking as if we were on zero we weren't sitting on zero you know we had proposals and they they just weren't good enough for the governor and it just reminds me of of an old republican trick we'd see every time there was a budget due is they'd say well we are once again proposing a record amount of spending and what would what would happen is they'd they'd basically I'm just exaggerating a little bit but they'd spend

a dollar extra and say look last year we spent this much this year it's a record like yeah and it's so short of inflation or the growing need for this or that and so of course speaker voss can say well we weren't on zero but again they're not sharing the actual numbers but I have a feeling the numbers were effectively zero for the good that they would have done because let's just take childcare you said there's dire need out there Dan you and I both know there are

more than a couple of Republican legislators whose honest opinion is there isn't a dire need for child care out there.

Right.

And,

you know, we have, and that is reflected in their priorities and what they've been doing and addressing this issue.

You know, the child care accounts program that Evers is looking to fund worked.

It was a pilot program that they were working on before the pandemic that they were able to, you know, prop up with the federal dollars that were coming with pandemic relief money with some of those ARPA dollars.

They propped up this program.

It worked.

It worked.

It was a pilot program that worked.

How often do we actually see that in government these days?

But it, you know, raised wages for people who are childcare providers.

It helped those centers stay open and it helped keep costs manageable for families.

And the only way and that has been effective now Republicans last cycle talked about introducing some sort of you know kind of targeted tax credits and working with employers Well, they had this one tax credit that passed that Evers did sign And but the problem with it was that zero people zero businesses took advantage of this tax credit in the first year zero businesses How often does that happen?

Right?

So I think this is just an example of

We need to stick with what we have seen.

It is proven to work and clearly Republicans did not do enough to come to the table on funding these childcare priorities and this is going to really make things difficult for working families in Wisconsin.

I have got to get the data on that one particular tax credit.

I recall hearing about it and not that zero businesses took part because it is now a tangible

example of something that we've talked about a lot in the 40 plus years of trickle down economic Reaganism supply side theories that are out there.

If you're okay, Mr. Republican politician or Ms.

Republican politician, if you're okay giving more money in tax breaks to the very wealthy because you believe that there will be this net positive effect as they make investments in the economy as they create jobs and everything,

Why wouldn't you also see that when you do that for, say, a childcare teacher or a small business owner, you actually get a bigger multiplier effect because they're not going to put that extra money into, you know, more stocks and bonds.

They're going to spend it directly in the local economy on some other small business who's going to turn around and probably spend it on another small business.

And if they understand why you would want to give big tax breaks,

I don't get why they wouldn't understand why you would help in something like childcare, where again, you have a proven economic impact.

I just, that's not even a question, Dan.

I'm sorry, I'll just never understand it.

Well, and this is a program that the Wisconsin Policy Forum, objective public policy analysis, some of the best that we have here in Wisconsin, gave the childcare counseling program an award for innovation in government spending.

And here we have in it, and the

The report that I was mentioning about no businesses taking advantage of this tax credit is a piece from the Cap Times last week where they talked about how an outside consultant reviewed that tax incentive for the WEDC and said, quote, due to the high operational costs of childcare centers, affordability would likely be better achieved through a subsidy as opposed to a tax incentive.

No businesses have taken advantage of the childcare element of the tax program according to a spokesperson from the WEDC.

Again, that's a piece last week published by the CapTimes.

So there's a solution out there.

Not the one that they proposed.

Maybe they should take a look at the other one.

So where we are in the process now is the Joint Finance Committee heads back into the meeting room and, you know, piece by piece starts to go through the state budget.

And essentially what they're doing is they're writing the Republican version of the budget bill, you know, not exactly working off what Governor Tony Evers gave them for his proposals.

But what emerges from this will be the Republican bill and they will

add and subtract some things.

And one of the things they're talking about adding is a tax credit for teachers who are buying classroom supplies, which again, shouldn't necessarily be a thing.

We're not talking, you know, they're buying a box of crayons here and there.

They're buying a tremendous amount of supplies because of underfunded schools.

But rather than funding the schools, Republicans are saying, Well, here's here's a credit on your taxes.

Yeah, isn't this ridiculous?

Like it just

is maybe we could cut out the middle portion of this whole thing and oh, I don't know, just fund the schools to begin with so that teachers don't have to spend their own personal dollars on classroom supplies and materials and all of that.

Why not just fund schools to begin with?

Cut out the middle part of this ridiculous run around that Republicans are doing.

Maybe just give the teachers the resources they need to make their classrooms the best places possible for their students.

It's funny, as you were saying it, Tony was typing it on YouTube in the comment section over here.

Great minds, Mr. Zimmerman.

Here's part of the answer to that is that, of course, like you said, not every teacher will take advantage of the tax credit or won't make enough money to qualify for the tax credit.

So it's just like the childcare example you gave.

And it's just like the Medicaid cuts where they say with a straight face, there are no benefit cuts.

But if they put all these hoops in place where you can't take advantage of them, well, that's too bad for you.

So we know the direct answer of of helping people don't cut their Medicaid, provide direct support to funding for schools adequately, provide direct support for childcare, but

That's that's not what we're getting at this point and I don't expect to see it necessarily in the Republican budget once the Joint Finance Committee is all done.

Before we go to break, I've got to ask you about the Democratic Party of Wisconsin.

Their annual convention is this weekend.

Folks will be thinking, well, it's an off year, right?

I mean, there's no more elections this year, so it's going to be a slow affair.

It most certainly will not because there's going to be a big election coming up this weekend.

There is going to be a big election coming up this weekend for to find out who will succeed Ben Wickler as the chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin.

Of course, you've had all of those candidates on the show here on Mornings with Pat Critello, Devin Remaker, Joseph Hecke, and...

William Garcia.

William

Garcia.

Apologies to Mr. Garcia having a little bit of a brain fart this morning.

The coffee maybe hasn't kicked in yet.

But we're going to see that vote.

We're going to see that vote on Sunday morning, I believe.

The convention is Saturday and Sunday.

So we'll see all the speeches, including one from Georgia Senator Raphael Warnock, who is going to be...

the special guest speaker for the event.

And there are a number of other offices that also have

votes for them, you know, first, second vice chair on, you know, a number of other party officials, but the only one that has multiple candidates running for it is the chair position.

Like so, for example, Sarah Godluschi, Secretary of State, is running for first vice chair.

She's facing no opposition for that.

So she almost certainly will be elected to serve in that position.

And so that will be, you know, an interesting component of this too.

But, you know, that chair vote also as well is

being held with ranked choice voting for the first time, that this was actually implemented in 2019.

One Wichler took over, but there have not been enough challengers to Wichler or an open seat to have ranked choice voting for this.

So I think that's gonna be an interesting element of this vote as well.

Oh, that that was is going to be fascinating to break down those numbers.

You know, if it goes goes multiple ballots and see how the votes get allocated when the person that comes in third place is, you know, eliminated in the first round.

So.

That will be very interesting to see come Monday when all is said and done.

And of course, there will be some chatter at the convention about Governor Tony Evers as he's made clear repeatedly he's not going to make any decisions until after the budget is done.

But Dan, that's not going to stop delegates from talking.

I'm sure there will be multiple conversations about if this or that.

Well, look the part of what they're saying in this convention is that they are looking ahead to 2026 and the road to 2026 and the possibility of a democratic trifecta if they are able to flip the Senate and the Assembly but it's still an open question about who's going to be at the top of the ticket and what the race to become the nominee might look like and I think that should be a major conversation

be outside of the convention, and you may be seeing something about that in the Reconvibulation area in the not-too-distant future.

The very not-too-distant future, and then, shortly after that, like four o'clock this afternoon, you'll be filling in for Megadon today, along with

Angela Lange.

That's right, me and Angela and I think Matt Rothschild is going to be joining us for a little bit on the show as well.

But yeah, we'll be filling in from four to six PM this evening during drive time.

So make sure you tune to Civic Media.

on your drive home this evening to catch

us.

Absolutely.

And of course, catch Dan's column, which he will be talking about, I'm sure, this afternoon.

You know what?

I think all of us will be talking about it for sure.

Dan Schaefer from the Reconpopulation area is with us, and this is the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm Pat Rightwell.

Tomorrow we'll have our homeroom segment.

We'll have Melissa Baldoff here with our climate check.

And in climate check, we're going to discuss how the US Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy, wants to weaken fuel economy standards and says the Biden-era rule is illegal.

It's illegal to try to not have your cars polluting the atmosphere.

I'm sure Melissa will have some things to say about that.

James Kelly, Melissa Kay, Earl Ingram, all that and more coming up tomorrow on the program.

For our final few minutes here, let's continue our visit with Dan Schaefer, talk about what's happening at the Democratic Convention, some of the other stories that are talking about in Wisconsin politics as well.

There's going to be a shindig, is it Madison on Thursday for the new and yet departing Chief Justice of the State Supreme Court?

Yes, that's right Coming up.

There is a big event happening in Madison with the in regards to the the state supreme court

for annual justice

and Walsh Bradley who?

Has been chief justice for I don't know just a couple weeks.

I think something like that but but yeah, it's a

I'm trying to pull up the details here, but they're having an event to honor Ann Walsh Bradley at the Capitol in Madison, I believe Tony Evers and a number of other members of the state Supreme Court will be speaking for this as well.

So we're getting kind of close to the end of this two year cycle for the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

And as Ann Walsh Bradley, you know, kind of with this parting gift.

to a certain extent of having the opportunity to be Chief Justice for a short while and retire with that title.

Think of it as pregame for the Democratic Convention.

I know the Supreme Court is a nonpartisan event.

I also know which side of the aisle politicized it first, but it is going to be a CNB scene for Democrats and progressives everywhere to toast Chief Justice Ann Walsh Bradley before her retirement.

There's another story I want to ask you out of Milwaukee dealing with the possibility of red light cameras and I know that traffic accidents, crashes, hit and runs, fatalities have all been a hot topic for years in Milwaukee.

And so now you've got people hoping to see legislation that would install cameras that could automatically cite speeding drivers.

You know, no officer needed on duty.

Is that a relatively

new idea and do you think it's going to have any legs?

Well, this it's not a new idea.

This has been introduced for cycle after cycle and it has had the backing of a number of Milwaukee leaders for quite some time And but you know, this is an issue I can I can kind of see both sides of when it comes to the the red light camera enforcement You know, I think some people might have some take some issues with that In a number of different ways, but the reckless driving problem in Milwaukee is is a

Big problem.

We have, you know, I think the Mayor Cavalier Johnson has taken a number of steps to address some of the...

certain things with building out different infrastructure, reconfiguring some of the way that different lanes are set up in different parts of the city.

But, you know, a lot of it relies on the state too, because there are a lot of state highways running through the city.

So there can be some confusion on how to address some of the most glaring problems, which can often be on state highways that are going through the city of Milwaukee.

But I think, you know, the people who are in support of this see this as just kind of a force multiplier.

because police in Milwaukee have a big job to do and traffic enforcement is only one part of it and it is incumbent upon some people to have a little bit more accountability for some of the people who are running red lights and speeding through intersections.

racing down, you know, residential streets in the city, like this is a real problem.

So would it make a difference to have these these red light cameras or is it, you know, does this become, you know, kind of a civil liberties question to a certain extent, right?

Does this infringe upon, you know, not having an actual person.

Catch you speeding does that does that change the way this might be characterized?

So I think there there are a lot of questions involved with this but again, I think you know, we saw the mayor we saw State Representative or State Senator Dora Drake a number of other folks come forward in a press conference yesterday and for the fifth time Call for the state to take up this legislation

and a senator Dora Drake put it we can't

place police officers at every single intersection 24 hours a day, especially in what I would call the defund the police movement by the Wisconsin Republican legislature that has been, you know, underfunding municipalities for the longest time.

So

While there are due process concerns, there's also the death toll.

The Journal Sentinel article here says that in 2023, 77 people were killed in car crashes.

I had no idea.

Last year it was 67 deaths, and so far this year 19 people have died in car crashes.

This is, if anybody goes, what are we trying to deal with?

That, we're doing 140, nearly 150 people killed in car crashes over the past two year period.

And it's a major like day-to-day quality of life issue here in Milwaukee.

Like, you know, when I go certain places, I will go out of my way to drive a longer route to avoid certain intersections or certain streets that I know are going to be problematic.

And, you know, there are a lot that the city is trying to do.

There are a lot that they are not addressing at all.

And they're just like basic common sense things.

that you come up to these intersections, come up to these streets that they could be doing differently and that they are not.

But this is yet another thing that they have talked about to try and improve the quality of life for Milwaukeeans on a day-to-day basis because the reckless driving here is absolutely out of control.

I usually will go to bat for Milwaukee on so many things and y'all were mischaracterized on this and whatever.

The driving here is terrible.

It's terrible.

And

so something has to be, has to be done one

way or

another.

And obviously you want to look out for anything that might rig the system, but as somebody who, uh, in Arizona, two different times would open up an envelope like a week after I get home and there's a picture of me and there's a picture of the red light.

Like, yeah, I guess I'll be paying that ticket.

Dan Schaefer from the Recombobulation Area.

Thank you, Dan, very much.

Yeah.

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Pat Kreitlow

Well, hey there, Wisconsin.

Good morning.

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So thanks for starting your day right here wherever you're catching us.

Parker Olson is standing by in Madison Studio A2.

After we talked to John and Gordy yesterday in A1, we understood that there is a difference.

There is.

It's very important.

It's a big studio down the hall from Mr. Olson.

So I've got a question for you this morning.

What's the over and under on young Mr. Olson?

And when he starts becoming a coffee drinker because somebody was teasing me before the show about, you know, who's awake and who's not and who's had their coffee and who doesn't.

And if you've missed it earlier, Parker.

It's not yet a coffee drinker.

I'm not one to cast stones, not being a coffee drinker till I was just about 50.

But my overunderstanding, I'm going to take the under on that one as far as when Parker goes all in on the bean juice.

Yeah, the under is probably a good call.

I'm trying to see how long I can live on.

National Champion Parker, that's right, Tony Zimmerman.

Pat Kreitlow

Tony puts on YouTube, National Champion Parker, yes.

It's not, it's not going to be a nickname.

Tony, it's not going to stick.

He's, he gets to celebrate a national championship, but, but that's it.

Um, and Tony puts in his guests early morning radio.

I think coffee is coming.

Yes.

That could be, well, be the case.

And Alicia, thank you.

Good morning to you saying Twitter is so yesterday.

Oh, couldn't agree more, but she goes on to say, I'm not really a coffee drinker and I'm almost 41.

I survived the Navy without coffee.

Now that, I'd like to know how that happens.

That's impressive.

That is very impressive.

So already folks commenting on social media, YouTube, Facebook, but you can also do so through the Civic Media app or at least you could if I'd open up my window.

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I started that not long ago.

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It is cloudy.

It is kind of hazy, not rainy.

And I still wouldn't.

I wouldn't say we're free of Canadian wildfire smoke up here yet either.

What are the conditions like down there in Madison?

I didn't notice any smoke today.

I don't think.

Might get a little rainy tomorrow.

I think today is like our only day of not rain this week

Pat Kreitlow

This this is yeah, apparently our only day of not rain and hopefully we'll get to talk to Brittany Merleau and get the forecast in a bit Tom and New Berlin on the text line ex-navy.

He says the gravy thick coffee yum Now we see what?

What did Alicia do on YouTube?

She puts four liters of Mountain Dew a day that no

Hit the but Parker hit the button for your genuine reaction to that for leaders of Mountain Dew a day.

I'm

sorry.

What

Pat Kreitlow

there it is.

That's right How do you have innards left?

Yeah, I don't think you

should be alive right now.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh, I yeah, I'm not really sure how she's processing food at this point Although Roger from Stevens Point jumps on Facebook two to one odds on Parker to consume the nectar of the gods I don't know that put my coffee in that category.

I mean, I'm a pretty good barista, but

you know the nectar the gods Tony

Pat Kreitlow

asking Alicia, do you glow?

The room just lights up when she walks in

I mean, again, not casting stones for the, you know, starting in college and for at least a couple of years after that, I too, it was Mountain Dew in the morning.

I just don't know that it ever got to four leaders.

So that's a lot of Mountain Dew.

That's a lot of anything.

I know.

But look, look, she's still up early doing, you know, crazy good work.

She's doing all kinds of, you know, volunteer stuff, you know, on the side.

So Alicia, it's working for you.

So you go.

You, you do that do as, as it were.

Um, so do you glow?

Alicia responds now.

I wasn't a nuke.

I was on the flight deck, which means she was guiding the airplanes in instead with that, that Mountain Dew glow.

Uh, on the program today, it's an off year for elections in Wisconsin that will not dampen the enthusiasm of delegates who are gathering this weekend in Wisconsin Dells for the state democratic convention.

Along with celebrating another state Supreme Court victory, they will be voting on a new state chair to succeed Ben Wickler.

Plus, there will be chatter about whether Governor Tony Evers will run for a third term next year.

We will cover all of that and more with Dan Schaefer from the Reconpopulation Area, Civic Media Political Editor.

Two of Medicaid's most vocal critics, as you know, come from Wisconsin.

Senator Ron Johnson and Assembly Speaker Robin Voss neither would hesitate to criticize or cut a program that has helped millions upon millions of Americans stay healthy for these past 60 years.

The thing is, their complaints lose a lot of credibility when they can't be honest about the number of deserving, hardworking people whose health care coverage would be lost if Trump's big bloated bill passes.

So we're going to review the rhetoric and again make the point that you can be opposed to Medicaid.

You can say you want to get rid of Medicaid, as I'm sure Rob and Boston Ron Johnson want to do.

Just don't lie.

when you're telling us that you're making hundreds of millions of dollars in cuts and nobody who deserves the benefits are going to have their benefits cut a nickel as Derek Van Orden said because now you've crossed a line where you've lost your credibility and we'll get one example from Medicaid director Bill Hanna coming up during the program as well.

U.S.

Marines have occupied their fair share of land in their history from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Triple E and, you

know,

Pat Kreitlow

let's see, we've got the Philippines and Puerto Rico and Cuba and all of that, but President Donald Trump has a new battle plan for the United States Marine Corps, one that's wildly unconstitutional and designed for maximum division in America's second largest city.

We'll talk about that a bit this morning.

Community editor Christina Laurie talks about a milestone in professional hockey that puts Milwaukee front and center for celebrations of Pride Month.

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Let's head back over to the mailbag, which started innocently enough with having, you know, Parker drinking coffee and it led to Alicia's, you know, Mountain Dew addiction.

Tony says, so like Rudolph, but green to guide the planes in that makes sense.

But now Alicia says no, she laid off the Mountain Dew after she got out of the Navy.

That's the good news the bad news is she says last year.

It was at least two monsters a day two monsters a day That's

not

Pat Kreitlow

as

bad.

No, I can comprehend two monsters a day far

Pat Kreitlow

more than

I can four liters of Mountain Dew a day.

Yes, I Get like that's like an early morning getcha going and then like mid-afternoon You need one to get you through the day that makes sense to me.

Pat Kreitlow

I Don't know.

I mean isn't one of those Mount those energy drinks.

I mean

Has enough caffeine to bring down a horse?

Oh, yeah, but okay.

Well That's a little concerning Tony if you want to have a fun conversation in the chat you need to do it live with your YouTube and She says hey wait, I'm down to to Alani.

What's Alani?

Is that an energy drink?

I'm also no water with Alani.

Oh wait yours.

You're supposed to be My expert on all things.

I'm very sorry

No, that's okay.

Tony, you know, three kids under five.

I've done coffee, monster, et cetera.

I'm not judging anybody.

Understandable.

Fair enough.

You know your place.

That's great.

Yep.

Yep.

Yesterday was the regular visit to the dentist's office.

And I don't get me wrong.

I love doing early morning radio.

I don't mind the early wake up time.

Again, what is the unofficial motto of this show and why I'm doing an early morning show?

The unofficial motto is I'm waking up that early to pee anyway.

I may as well get paid for it.

OK.

I didn't know

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that

was our motto.

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Yeah, I probably hadn't subjected you to that one yet.

Anyway, I do try to go to bed early.

Last night was a great example.

8 15.

Oh, that was that was great.

It it feels it's.

what sort I'm looking for decadent to have to close the curtains really tight close the bedroom door close the bathroom door so that no light gets in because the sun is still out and I'm going to bed it's a victory because if I don't like the night before when I you know didn't go to bed you know sufficiently early I'm in the dentist chair yesterday yesterday afternoon and the hygienist is making small talk while she's scraping and picking and scraping and picking and scrape scrape scrape and all that

And I figure at least a dozen times, I had what you would, I don't know if you'd call it a micro nap or, you know, just not, not quite dozing off, but where you, you have to open up your eyes.

Cause I've got, they, they give you a little goggles and I asked for the sunglasses one.

So again, it's dark.

And despite one of the most annoying and sometimes painful things that can be done, I'm like, nope, I'm going to steal a little wink here and a little wink there.

And that just didn't strike me as normal.

No.

But no cavities.

Everything was in good shape.

And you know why the teeth were in good shape?

Because I stopped drinking Mountain Dew a long time ago.

Yeah.

Sorry.

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It should not be taking shots at our wonderful veterans.

Like Alicia, who says, you got to remember Navy caffeine runs in my veins.

And she says, Hey, that's my motto for early morning work here too.

See, I knew I wasn't being very original on that.

Uh, but I just, it was just a good reminder to me.

You got to get enough sleep.

If you're falling asleep during the dental hygienists doing their thing, maybe, maybe you need to fix something about

that.

Yeah.

That's pretty bad.

That's

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a pretty bad sign.

And again, for people going, well, you should fix your sleep.

Like, yes, I know.

Doctor's appointment in two weeks.

We'll figure it out.

The Stanley Cup playoffs.

Not going well for any of us who'd like to see Edmonton beat a team from Florida.

The Panthers were big winners last night in game three, six to one.

So they've now gone up two games to one.

Game four in the Stanley Cup finals will be Thursday night in Miami.

The NBA Playoffs are tied at one game piece and that resumes tomorrow in Indianapolis.

The Milwaukee Brewers, again the bats fall in sleep against Atlanta this time, opening that three game series.

Atlanta beating Milwaukee seven to one.

Milwaukee's only run came in the third inning.

Joey Ortiz hit a leadoff double and scored on a William Contreras two out single.

but again that's all the offense that they could muster.

So they will pick it up again this evening for game two of the series and that again has a pregame that starts at 6.05 on several stations across the Civic Media radio network and then tomorrow the three game series wraps up with a matinee

And so tomorrow, the pregame will start at 12.35 in the afternoon.

So that's tomorrow.

This evening, it'll be at 6.05.

Again, catch the Brewers versus Atlanta game two of that series.

We'll follow some of the day's headlines coming up here in just a bit first from the heart of America's up north, live from Lake Wissota.

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Again, Dan Schaefer coming up a little later this morning as we talk about the upcoming State Democratic Convention and some other political notes out of the Milwaukee area.

One of them being the ongoing crisis of lead in the water and lead paint chips in some of the older school buildings there.

And you recall just, what is it, just a little over a week ago?

Was it that Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr.

I always have to pause and do that again.

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr.

I mean, I gotta be honest.

I still, after all these years, I still find myself going, President Donald Trump?

But yeah, this is the world we live in now.

Health Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr.

said that there was a team on the ground in Milwaukee.

That was either a lie or he just was making stuff up, didn't know what he was talking about.

And so the

The lead crisis is still an issue there, and it's still not being addressed by Kennedy's Health and Human Services Department.

How do we know this?

Because he's busy with other things.

Kennedy yesterday removed all 17 members of a scientific committee that advises the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on how to use vaccines.

I think that deserves the Parker reaction button as well.

Let me do that again.

I'm sorry,

what?

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There it is and replaced them with his own picks.

You will recall that Kennedy was one of the nation's leading anti-vaccine activists before becoming the nation's top health official.

I have to say that one again too and I don't mean to twist the knife but honestly, Kennedy who was one of the nation's leading anti-vaccine activists before becoming the nation's top health official.

has not said who he would appoint to the panel, but said it would convene in just two weeks in Atlanta.

This just has, you know, WWE written all over it.

Although it's typically not viewed as a partisan board, the entire current roster of committee members were Biden appointees.

So why get rid of them all?

Well, because Kennedy wrote, without removing the current members, the Trump administration would not have been able to appoint a majority of new members until 2028.

He said a clean sweep is needed to reestablish public confidence in vaccine science.

I gotta read that one again.

A clean sweep is needed to reestablish public confidence in vaccine.

It is better with a question mark at the end of it.

A clean sweep is needed to reestablish public confidence in vaccine science.

So basically, in a nutshell, the people and no hyperbole intended here.

But the people who quite literally killed tens, if not hundreds of thousands of Americans through their negligence and their inability to understand science are now in charge of science.

These are folks who got really unhappy about basic safeguards during the pandemic and they came across on the news as so angry, they're so angry.

Please keep in mind media that the people who believe in science are still

equally angry, if not more so, at the damage they did to humanity and the damage they continue to do.

We have measles killing people now.

We have measles spreading.

We have starving children in Africa literally dying because of this administration.

So, you know, as much as we try to be shiny, happy people when we can, the people who were so angry about basic safeguards

Are now the ones running the show in the Department of Health and Human Services?

What's not to get angry about?

And then I see this headline as we transition to what's happening in California and with migrants and things.

Headline in the journal Sentinel.

Can Trump ignore the courts?

Here's what polling shows Americans think.

No.

No.

Why would you even put that headline in there?

Can Trump ignore the courts?

Here's what polling shows Americans think.

That's not news.

That's not even remotely close to news.

That's chatter.

The news is a president of the United States is ignoring the courts.

What should happen next?

Not, well, the people that like him think he's doing a good job.

Same goes for bank robbers.

In the meantime, in California, Donald Trump is taking the next step in his actual insurrection.

Yes, he's been referring to the folks in California as insurrectionists, the president who pardoned actual insurrectionists.

This is the next step in his insurrection of the United States.

He's sending another 2,000 National Guard troops along with 700 Marines to Los Angeles Escalating a military presence that local officials and the governor don't want and the police chief says creates logistical challenges for safely handling protests Here's what we mean by logistical challenges if you've maybe seen the photos Trump sent these troops in Without any advanced planning without any any thought on how to feed them

where they're going to sleep.

You see them all laying in like storage room floors inside of buildings and things.

If anybody is truly disrespecting our troops right now, it's Donald Trump through using them, deploying them under false pretenses, ripping them away from their homes and their home bases where they could be ready for genuine emergencies for this made up one over protests because of stepped up enforcement of immigration laws.

And

The thing that I think people did a good job pointing out yesterday is this.

There are far more people who were deported in any given week under the Obama administration and under the under the Biden administration.

More people were deported.

But it didn't require the National Guard or Marines because of the way they handled it.

They handled it the way law enforcement should be done as opposed to what Trump is doing on purpose making this a show.

This is all a show, and that's why you're having Marines activated.

Not yet deployed, but trust me, if one Marine sets foot on the streets of LA and has to fire a weapon, it will mark a new stain that can never be erased in American history.

Keep your eyes on that.

Christina Laurie is on the way.

Also your Scotty summer text to win contest keyword is coming up at the top of our next hour here powered by Up North News on the Civic Media Radio Network.

The Midwest Farm Report is next.

Welcome back 635, packed right low in Chippewa Falls, Parker Olson in Madison, Christina Laurie joining us in a moment and folks watching us on social media.

We'll see that we've got a website on the bottom of the screen there that says upnorthnewswi.com slash sports dash newsletter.

sports dash newsletter.

And that's something Christine is going to be talking to us about in just a bit.

But I did want to solve one of the Parker coffee mysteries here, where on YouTube, Alicia said, Hey, I'm down to to Alani.

And then Tony asks, does Parker drink bubbler?

Those have as much caffeine as a cup of coffee, according to the marketing.

And then Alicia says Alani is like bubbler.

No, and Tony says ah But here so it's bubble but bubbler is different than is it bubbly at the one at Michael buble?

Not no, yeah different thing different okay where he wants to call it buble, but it's actually bubbly Yeah, but it's not the same as bubbler not the same things that you you don't want to yeah, you don't want to get the wrong one there and

Kathryn Lake

give it

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Give it to your little kid here Timmy have some bubbler.

It's just water straight water guys

Enough for the water.

But apparently not the bubbler's got the caffeine in there.

Anyway, I mentioned the sports newsletter because Up North News is now a seven day a week joint.

All day, all week, you can open up your inbox and find a newsletter of some sort.

The weekday ones with Wisconsin news and features.

And then the Sunday morning one about Wisconsin politics that I put together.

And Christina has now been putting together one related to sports.

So again, Up North News W I dot com.

slash sports dash newsletter and she joins us now to talk more about that and then some but we'll start Christina.

Good morning by asking where you are on the coffee versus water versus Mountain Dew dial of morning beverages.

Oh, wait a minute.

Sorry, Christina didn't hit the right button.

There we go.

Where are you on the beverages in the morning?

I have a very unpopular opinion.

I'm so boring.

I only drink water.

I don't like carbonation.

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I

don't like coffee.

I don't like alcohol.

I'm just, I am a bore, so I'm sorry.

I contribute a lot to this.

When I did work in morning TV, as adventurous as I would get, sometimes when I needed an extra jolt, I would go for some iced tea.

That's

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about as crazy as I get.

Okay, all right.

Sounds good.

Oh, I thought Parker was reacting there.

Sorry about that.

Also, let's start with a little bit of sports on, you know, a bit of a bittersweet note.

Roger and Steven's point puts on Facebook.

Excellent article, Christina, on Coach Pettigow.

He will be missed for folks who might have missed that story.

Tell us about that real quick.

Yeah, so he was the winningest coach in Wisconsin High School boys basketball history.

He coached at Cuba City, small town of just about 2000 people.

The head Wisconsin men's basketball coach Greg Gard actually grew up.

going to his basketball camps.

Later, he became a mentor of his.

He was also really close with Bo Ryan.

If anyone ever watched any of the high school boys' basketball state tournaments, if Pettigo's teams were not playing and winning them, it seemed like Cuba City was frequently in that tournament.

I believe that he ultimately won three state titles in his 50 years as head coach there.

you know, even in his later years, when his team didn't make it there, he would still be on the mic at those tournaments.

And just everyone who I talked to that had ever come in contact with him or even just watched him, loved him.

So, I mean, it reminds me of this quote that I like that says, people will forget what you did, what you said, but they'll never forget how you made them feel.

And that really seems to be his legacy.

Pat Kreitlow

He literally put Cuba City on the map and by that I mean that, you know, one of the things that people like to do during the tournaments is brush up on their Wisconsin geography.

And yes, there were a number of times where I, like other people go, where's Cuba City?

And you'd pull out your Rand McNally and you'd find out where that one is or Pecatonica was another one that people would be like, wait, what is that?

Where is that?

All kinds of great ways to learn about Wisconsin just through the schools and the tournament.

Absolutely.

And it's funny, coming from someone who was born and raised in Illinois, I had heard of Cuba City and it was because they were so good at sports.

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So.

Mm-hmm.

Yep.

Although it reminds me, we also, I always love when people are like, what's spash?

Where's Spatch?

Now, Spatch was never used in tournament lingo for Stevens Point area senior high, but still the best name ever for a high school for Spatch.

Oh, it took me a while to figure out what the heck that

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was.

I still like it to this day.

Let's see.

In other sports notes that I wanted to ask you about, we have an interesting intersection here of professional sports and Pride Month, and it's based out of Milwaukee, out of the hockey world.

Yes, so this isn't really a collaboration we see far too often.

Unfortunately, I think there are some gay professional athletes that are not out, is what I'm trying to say.

But in Milwaukee, we have a really brave Milwaukee Admirals defenseman, Luke Prokop.

He made history back in 2021 as the first NHL contracted player to public...

publicly come out as gay.

And then in 2023, he made history again when he officially took the ice for his first game with the admirals, becoming the first American hockey league's athlete to play in a game.

And then just this past weekend, he served as Grand Marshal of Milwaukee's Pride Parade.

Really awesome.

He received a great community welcome and

especially now it's so important to have allies as well as really great role models in the LGBTQ community because we see what some leaders are trying to do and trying to act like Pride Month doesn't exist.

So

it's nice to have some very, he's still, you can't question that he's a man.

He plays one of the most rough sports out there.

And then he's out there waving the rainbow flag, which is just fantastic.

It shows people everywhere.

You can be whoever you want to be.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah, exactly.

We're talking to Christina Laurie and she puts together not just the Monday through Friday, Up North News Daily newsletter, but a new all sports edition that comes out every Saturday.

And I know this past Saturday, for example, you know, you were

talking about the, you know, the week of streaks and how nice things have been going for the for the crew before this past weekend.

The past few days have been a little rough here.

I want to say that symbolically it started with Brandon Woodruff taking that line drive off the elbow on his way back to recovery.

But oh

man, I just I don't you feel so sorry for him.

Like

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you

really you couldn't script a worse comeback.

I mean,

it's just he's doing everything right and he's just getting the worst luck But but really out of all of the challenges the Brewers are having this season pitching with I mean you would think that that would have caused them some problems based on the number of guys they still have on injured reserve and That's not their issue.

They've been stellar with pitching.

They have such a deep bench there.

They just really need

some offense.

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Yes, yeah.

The ongoing reaction to Aaron Rodgers signing with the Steelers has been very satisfying.

At no point have I ever heard anybody say, oh, we should bring him on for one last season and let him retire as a packer or anything like that.

Instead, it's more memes like, oh, finally Aaron Rodgers gets one more chance to crush Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl dreams the way he did back in 2011.

Well, I also saw an interesting stat so if so history could be made in that Packers Steelers game because if somehow which I Hate to even say this because I don't believe it's going to happen one Iota but if the Steelers did beat the Packers Aaron Rodgers would become the first quarterback ever to beat all Every team in the NHL.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh, yeah.

Oh, really?

Yes

I mean, we know he beat every other team when he was a Packer.

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We

know a lot of that history was not made these past two seasons with the Jets.

But we have to give a shout out to our QB1, Jordan Love.

He immediately, when reporters asked him what he thought of being able to finally face Aaron Rodgers since they've never played each other professionally, he said, and he seemed very genuine.

He said that he's looking forward to it.

and he hopes they can swap jerseys after the game.

So that's our guy.

I'm so proud that he represents the Packers now.

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We

had some questionable morality and recent quarterbacks.

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Yes.

The definite breath of fresh air, if you will.

I did want to ask you to move away from sports for a second here, but I know how much you love to write about the UW and UW Madison.

And so I'm sure it was with great pride that you noted that there's a new global ranking out there.

And first off, here's a little bit of trivia for folks who wondered.

I didn't know this.

Worldwide, how many colleges and universities are out there?

How many universities?

21,462.

And there is apparently an annual ranking from the Center for World University Rankings.

And the headline on the article here from you is just 0.2% of universities are better than Wisconsin according to a new global ranking.

That had to feel like a good story to write up.

It did and especially now because it shows how interconnected all universities are.

Right?

Like we're on this international list that comes at a time when our president is trying to demonize international students and limit them getting here.

But there are large reasons why Wisconsin is so high on this list.

Wisconsin has about 10% of its student body that are made up of international students.

They bring a ton to our university.

They bring a ton to our faculty.

And so Wisconsin ranked very highly on that list.

I don't have the list up in front of me.

I think they were like around 30.

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the 30th in the world, which again is, you know, the top 0.2% and 20th in the United States.

You know, and broken down by category includes and again, this is worldwide 38th in education, 34th in faculty, 45th in research, 115th in employability, again, out of more than 20,000 universities worldwide.

And you

know what's interesting is that they keep climbing because I was extraordinarily nerdy in high school.

So I was very familiar with the top 50 list of American colleges.

And so this was back in around 2010 when I was applying to colleges.

And I didn't even apply to Wisconsin because they were not ranked high enough.

in my mind at the time.

And instead, I went to University of Illinois.

I'm from Illinois.

My entire family went there.

That was not really a question that I'd end up going there.

But now in the past three years of the US News and World Report rankings, they've been tied with Illinois in those rankings.

So that's really impressive that they just keep climbing up.

I believe that they're going to surpass them.

one of these years soon.

Pat Kreitlow

I can totally see that.

Folks want to hear and read more from Christina.

Of course, we told you about the sports newsletter, the daily newsletter, but it says here on my little radio schedule that tomorrow evening in the 7pm hour, you're going to be joining Pete Schwabba on his nightlight program to talk a bit more about sports I would imagine.

That is correct.

Pat Kreitlow

All right.

I'm

going to be making the rounds.

So I wonder how much crossover there is, though, between people who are up

at this time listening to the radio and then people who are listening to the radio at seven

Pat Kreitlow

been wondering the same thing so you you get on there tomorrow evening in the 7 p.m.

hour with peach waba and try to spread around the the notes about getting on board this new sports newsletter up north news wi.com slash sports dash newsletter christina lori thank you so much have a great day

You too.

Thanks so much

for having me on, Pat.

Pat Kreitlow

You bet.

Coming up next is today's history lesson, like we always do, Mornings Up North, powered by Up North News here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Pat Kreitlow

A little hot fund in the summertime by Sly and the Family Stone.

Sly Stone died on Monday.

The singer, songwriter, maestro of Sly and the Family Stone had a run of hits in the late 60s and early 70s that basically redefined the big, beautiful intersection of pop, funk, rock, R&B, soul, gospel.

Hits included the everyday people.

Dance to the music.

I want to take you higher.

Family Affair, and thank you for letting me be myself again.

Sly Stone was 82 years old today, and I believe it was John Roach, friend of ours on Facebook, who put up a clip to Sly and the Family Stone doing Doris Day's Kei Sarasara, which you think, what can you do with that?

turned it into a sole gospel version that I would highly recommend as well.

So again, happy trails to Sly Stone.

Let's carry on with today's history lesson, bringing in Dan Hagen from NewsWatch 12, WJFW and Rhinelander.

Daniel, how are you?

You hit me with the Daniel Patrick.

Good morning.

And that's reserved for my mother only.

I

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thought that was Danielle.

That's my sister called me Danielle growing up because she wanted a sister so bad.

Well, here's the thing.

My mom goes from Ted, Eric, Dan, because

she like makes up her names.

Yes.

I know.

You ever get the dog's name in there?

I get the

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dog.

Yeah, we don't

have a dog, girls.

Probably.

Yeah.

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I would throw the dog in occasionally just for comedic effect when I couldn't remember which name I was shouting at.

Like Sam, Casey, get over here, you, get over here.

But Dan Hagen is with us now and let's continue the history lesson.

Happy birthday to the lead singer of the Charelles, Shirley Owens, is 84 years old today.

This, of course, is the Carol King masterpiece, Will You Love Me Tomorrow, that she would do herself later on, but the charelles had it first with Shirley Owens.

The United States Naval Academy graduated its first class of students, so congratulations to the Naval Academy.

Alicia and all the other Navy vets out there, who I'm sure are marking the day in one way or another.

On this day in 1898 in the Spanish-American War,

US Marines began the invasion of Spanish held Cuba in the battle of Guantanamo Bay.

The number one song this week in 1972 is one that I wanted to play just for Dan and Parker here.

You may have heard of Sammy Davis Jr.

I doubt that you heard this song especially when it was on the radio all the time like it was for me when I was eight years old.

Here's Sammy Davis Jr.'

's number one hit this day 53 years ago.

It's a great eight-year-old song,

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I feel.

Yes,

absolutely.

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Yeah.

I do feel like I've heard this before,

Kathryn Lake

actually.

You probably have.

But... Do

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you think that would really fly today?

A grown man saying, hey, I got candy for ya!

Definitely not.

Did you play Candyland while listening to the song?

Pat Kreitlow

Yes.

Yes, that would be much more appropriate, you know?

Let's see, so that was the number one song in 1972.

Born this day in 1922, Judy Garland.

Born Frances Gumm in Grand Rapids, Minnesota before she went on to become a child star and would play Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz at the tender age of 17.

All right, this next musical clip is from TV history and Parker here was not familiar with this.

Dan, I don't know about you.

If I mentioned the series finale of the Sopranos,

Do you understand the cultural touchstone?

I do.

Pat Kreitlow

Okay, so let's set this up for folks that the Sopranos, this little mob drama series and the family is in a diner and they're eating and people are coming in and out and there's a song that he put in on the jukebox and the last thing you see is Tony Soprano looking up.

Here are the last 10 seconds or so of

the Sopranos.

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They're eating and people coming in.

Daughter comes running at, I think, at one point.

And you're thinking nothing of it.

They're just grabbing things up.

Tony looks up.

And that's it.

That was it.

It cut to black.

All kinds of people thought there was a technical issue.

Until they realized no that's exactly how they wanted the series to end and Parker's reaction to this yesterday Went like this.

I'm sorry.

What?

I just I

Pat I know that I'm missing like however many years of context that the show had but that's a terrible ending

Pat Kreitlow

Well, that's what a

lot of people thought Dan

I didn't know if it was necessarily reviled or not.

Wasn't there a big controversy?

Whether did he

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die or something?

That's the thing.

They wanted you because again, you see these ominous people.

You knew people are always out to get him.

Did the series in fact end?

Was he like killed in the next moment?

Or was he not?

And he just continues to live with the danger of there's always people out there who want to kill him.

And the show, the show writers decided not to answer that.

You decide what happens next.

To say it's a, you know,

Choose your, choose your warrior.

That's such a

cop out.

I

don't like it.

I kind of like it.

I think it should be open-ended because it leaves some room to the imagination.

I will say the Seinfeld family, I love Seinfeld, just did not like it at all.

I

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feel like it's not

like the

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Sherwell.

That one and how I met your mother were two of the most unsatisfying series finales.

ever.

You know, you've got some masterpieces like MASH and New Heart and some others.

Cheers wasn't bad.

But then, and the Sopranos was at least controversial.

I don't know that anybody talked about one more than that.

So we've got all of that going on.

On the National Day Calendar, it's National Ballpoint Pen Day.

And it's also, it's also Black Cow Day, the beverage, in other words, another term for a root beer float.

It is iced tea day and it's

Egg Roll Day.

Dan, can you hang around a bit?

I understand there's a nice little fundraiser that folks are doing that you're talking about up in the Rhinelander area.

Are you available?

Yeah, let's do it.

All right, you do that and then we'll do the seven o'clock news.

Then we'll have the Scani Summer Text to Win keyword all two more hours to go as we get rolling on one of these Tuesday mornings powered by UpNorth News.

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At 7 0 6, it's nice to have you back here Up North on this Tuesday morning, June 10th.

Coming up later this hour, we will discuss the Medicaid cuts contained in President Trump's big bloated budget bill.

Yes, they are cuts.

We'll hear from the Wisconsin Medicaid director with one example of many to keep in mind when people tell you there's no cuts in there.

Let's connect some dots, shall we?

So we'll be talking about that coming up in just a little bit.

Dan Hagen from NewsWatch 12, WJFW is with us.

We're going to talk about silent sports around some lakes up north and contrast that with a story we talked about last week about

banning wake boats, you know, the kind that can kick up really big waves and possibly do damage.

But now those bands are going to be tied up in lawsuits.

And so we'll talk a bit about that with Dan coming up.

But first meteorologist, Brittany Merleau is here as well to talk to us about a day that might be the best one of the week weather wise.

Yeah, I mean, unless you want to be out playing in the rain all the time.

But assuming most of us would like at least one day off from the rain, this might be it.

Brittney Merlot

This is going to be it.

Today's the day we've got a high pressure system down to the south that is slowly building in so we're seeing some sunshine already across the state line south.

More and more sun will work its way north as we go through this afternoon.

I think the place where the clouds might hang on the longest is going to be in the Fox Valley, but by this evening they will clear on out of here.

We're not looking at any rain in the forecast today.

It should stay dry.

Again, this high pressure system building in now.

It does want to hang on a little bit for a lot of the state tomorrow, but then.

We've got another front pushing through and another low pressure system right behind it that of course is going to bring some more showers and storms late tomorrow night.

Overnight and into our Thursday, of course, that starts the unsettled pattern.

We have chances for more showers on Friday and even lingering a little bit into Saturday too.

And as that rain and that cloud cover moves in, it's going to drop our high temperatures.

So today we're going to go to the low to mid 70s all across the state, maybe even near 80 far west by the Mississippi and then some mid 60s far northeast, mostly sunny for a big chunk of us.

And of course, the last light of sun.

Sunsets.

Oh my gosh, 922 were hanging out of that last light.

So much, much longer days and then of course tomorrow very warm.

We're going into the mid 80s far south to mid 70s far north.

So nice and comfortable.

Pat Kreitlow

Very comfortable indeed.

Rob says good morning from Tigerton, partly cloudy, 55 degrees, just over a half inch of rain yesterday, hoping for sunshine today so I can be doing my lawn mowing jobs in Wittenberg.

He said yesterday the weather felt like.

October cool and rainy.

I actually wore a hoodie to my dentist appointment yesterday.

It

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was it was very comfortable most of the time.

We talked we played little Sammy Davis Jr.

last segment and he said 1972 is famous not just for Candy Man but his appearance on All in the Family when he kissed Archie Bunker on the cheek.

That was again just this groundbreaking moment in TV which sounds really quaint now but it was a very big deal back then.

I wanted to ask you as well Brittany before we get to this kind

summer text-to-win keyword, whether you're in the coffee club of morning beverage drinkers, uh, Mountain Dew, water, energy drinks, something else.

What, uh, what do you got?

Brittney Merlot

Sure.

I'm a coffee 100%.

Now,

Pat Kreitlow

I never

Brittney Merlot

used to always be that way.

It's probably the last four to five years I started that.

So it used to be some sort of caffeine, like a soda or an energy drink.

Now I've switched to coffee.

Pat Kreitlow

Okay.

I discovered something just a few minutes ago that actually works better than caffeine to really get you jolted, get the blood flowing.

And that's when you're about to give the Scani summer text to win keyword.

And you have doubts over whether you have the right keyword or not.

Because I looked over on

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another screen

and I

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saw a different word.

And I was like, no, no, no, we all use the same word.

And so I'm quickly looking and going, no, this is this is the right word.

And then I realized I was looking at

yesterday's word on the screen for a different show.

But I'm awake now.

Yes, you are.

Definitely awake.

Didn't need the coffee for that.

Rob says diet, sun drop.

Well, of course, because it was sun drop days.

last weekend in Chano County, wasn't it?

So there you

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go.

So, uh, thank you, Brittany.

We'll check in next hour.

And in the meantime, I'm going to let my heart set a little bit and tell you more about this hour's keyword.

I'm serious, man.

It's just like, you don't want that note of, uh, you put the wrong one up.

Here we go.

It's time for our sunny sunny summer text-to-win contest statewide four times a day You can win a hundred dollars cash or brewers tickets Depending on which drawing which hour and every entry puts you in the drawing for a getaway

for the weekend in Wisconsin Dells or Door County, some gas money to get you there.

There's a different keyword each time.

I sure learned that today.

If you don't have the app downloaded in the usual places, Apple, Google, wherever, and then you have to go to one of the stations on the app, use the text button, and text us this keyword, and this is the correct word for this hour, tan, T-A-N.

tan for $100.

$100 is this hour's prize tan is this hour's keyword you have until the end of the hour to text it and then you can play again at 11 a.m.

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different keywords each time so again for this hour by the end of the hour

use that Civic Media app and text us the word TAN, T-A-N, for $100.

Let's see, Tony says, Dr. Pepper needs to be mentioned.

I don't drink as much now, but I used to drink a lot.

I have to say, I don't know the difference between all the artificial sweeteners and things.

I definitely am not a, I'm no longer a Diet Coke, Diet Pepsi fan, any of the diet sodas.

But this trend of zero sugar ones, Dr. Pepper zero sugar, there's Barks zero sugar.

And then the one I drink most often is Coke zero, Coke zero sugar.

I don't know which one is different, but I am worried a bit Parker and Dan that maybe I'm going to glow as much as Alicia does for that four liters of Mountain Dew a day.

You

know the aspartame the aspartame I've heard bad things about it But then you read more and it's like oh you have to drink seven Mountain Dews every single day for it to actually be bad for you So I just I'm just a coffee drinker.

I just you know,

Pat Kreitlow

oh, I know but there's plenty of artificial sweetener in my coffee, too I mean again Parker, what's the one thing I don't want my coffee tasting like?

Oh.

Pat Kreitlow

Coffee.

The correct answer is coffee.

Right.

Yeah.

Pat Kreitlow

Exactly.

Flavor that baby up, you know.

All

right.

Now, what do you

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put in that thing then?

Let's, let's get it.

Pat Kreitlow

Let's

get it

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out.

My, my favorite is the peppermint mocha one from

a

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coffee, coffee mate or whatever, which used to be just a Christmas thing, but apparently enough of us with, you know, a sweet tooth, they now sell it all year long.

So there's usually a little peppermint mocha.

All right.

So what I do is I do whole milk and I do some maple syrup, you know, keep it, keep it standard.

Maple

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syrup

in the coffee.

Pat Kreitlow

Maple syrup.

Oh

Pat Kreitlow

yeah.

Alright.

I like that.

Uh Dan Hagen with us from WJFW News Watch 12 and when we were talking about stories that he's been covering or or following up in the Rhinelander area, there's one that kind of uh ties in from a story we talked about last week from up in Burnett County where uh two different landowners out of state landowners on a lake up there uh have sued because the local

I think town board up there put in place a ban on these wake board, these wake boats, these boats that are modified to give you an extra big wake that you can basically, you know, surf on, put your, put your boogie board on there or whatever the case.

And they're trying to sue to get it thrown out.

Quite conversely, Mr. Hagen, you're covering a story about, I guess I didn't even think to appreciate this.

Up in your neck of the woods, there are

things that are classified as non motorized lakes and trying to encourage more of what are called silent sports around those areas.

Yeah, that's right.

So this couple from Sheboygan County were vacationing in the Northwoods for a long time.

They bought a place in the 90s on a non-motorized lake.

They didn't even realize it was a non-motorized lake until they had the property in their hands.

The last name is Strub and they've been here so long and they've appreciated the silence so much, the serenity of it all, that they've started

a natural wonder fund through the Rhinelander Community Foundation and what they're trying to do is promote more silent sport activities and what they're doing with this fund is they're connecting donors to investments in silent sports.

This could be a bike trail, it could be a disc golf course, it could be just some infrastructure for a park.

It's just a way to kind of bolster silent sports because there's a lot of investment in the motorized sports I'm not an ATV or a UTV or I hear it's fun I'm over a silent sports person myself So it's just kind of cool to see because Ryan Lander could use more of this investment.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh

Absolutely.

And again, it takes all kinds.

And in fact, funny that you say that, I realized I saw a headline and I hadn't called it up yet.

The new tourism numbers are out.

This always throws me because National Tourism Day is like right before Memorial Day.

And every year we do the story and we have to always say in the story, the new tourism figures are not out yet.

And then a couple of weeks later, they're out.

So yes, in fact, here they are, the governor's office put out that

along with Tourism Secretary Ann Sears, that Wisconsin's tourism industry saw its third consecutive record-breaking year of economic impact, garnering $25.8 billion in total economic impact, or about $70 million a day.

And again, all kinds.

You need all of it out there.

There will be disagreements over what you can do where.

But I mean, especially up where you are, the diversity of activities is what's giving us that $70 million a day impact.

That's a big deal.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

And fishing is a big part of that.

We've got to keep our waterways clean.

And you know, Vilas County, if you've ever been up there, Pat, they have this thing called the Heart of the Vilas Bike Trail.

And it connects Saint Germain all the way to Mercer on these paved bike paths.

It's really like...

some of the best bike paths in the country.

And it's underutilized.

Pat Kreitlow

No, I love the expansion of bike paths.

It was really cool here when an old rail line was paved and became part of the old Abe Trail running up along the Chippewa River here.

But getting back to the strobes who are putting together that fund, again,

the

Pat Kreitlow

Natural Wonder Fund, right?

Yeah, Natural Wonder Fund.

And it's part of the Rhinelander Community Foundation

So if you want to learn more about it, go to rinelandercommunityfoundation.com.

Nothing tricky about that, rinelandercommunityfoundation.com.

And that's how you can learn a bit more about that.

Although I'm sure I mentioned Burnett County, I'm sure there are other lakes up around your area where these wake boats are and people hear about these bands and are wondering, hey, wait a minute, can I get one of those bands on my lake?

I'm sure there's disagreements in some spots.

Yeah, I've been to some listening sessions from our local legislators, Senator Maryfelskowski and Representative Rob Swaringen, and it is like the most controversial topic.

It doesn't matter what time of year it is.

Just lately, it's been a lot of people harping on that because they've been trying to get some regulations on it, but there's been really no agreement in the legislature.

So I know a lot of people are passionate about it on both sides and it seems like it can be really damaging to a lake if it's a small lake.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh yes and so again a time and a place for everything and there certainly are lakes that are capable of handling you know these you know wakes of this size but

It's not just that the wakes affect you going, let's say, left and right, but also going down.

And if you're in a shallow lake, it also affects the lake bottom, which stirs up things.

you know, again, we we just want all things in moderation.

When you when you have that diversity of activities, you make for a beautiful place to play, even a beautiful place to live.

Dan Hagen does and that's why he's doing the news up in Rhinelander at WJFW News Watch 12.

Thanks for sticking around a bit and telling us about the the work to promote silent sports out there.

Always good to be here, Patrick.

Pat Kreitlow

All right, Daniel.

We'll talk to you next week.

Have a great day.

Yeah.

Pat Kreitlow

All right.

Sports right now at 719, not a stellar performance by the Brewers scoring only one run.

Atlanta scored seven.

I believe that means they won.

Yes, they did.

Seven to one.

They'll do game two of the series tonight in Atlanta.

Once again, coverage begins at 6 0 5 across the Civic Media radio network where we do things here in the mornings powered by Up North News.

I'm Pat Crichtlow.

We'll be right back.

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Pat Kreitlow

Welcome back to mornings powered by up north news or as Tony puts it on YouTube powered by up north news and an assortment of caffeine True guilty well except for Parker.

It's also you know powered by water Just nothing water, baby.

Nothing but what not even one of those little flavor packets crystal light or anything like that.

No, and

I'll tell you what Pat The water that we have here in the Madison office is not good.

It's bad water.

It's so bad

I

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hate it

water.

Pat Kreitlow

I know.

I mean,

no, it's the like the water

Pat Kreitlow

coolers ones that they bring in.

Yeah.

Well, some of those, you know, I mean, probably I'm not saying that's the case where you are down there.

But some, you know, drinking, who thinks to change some of those filters have been changed since the Ford administration, you know, so.

Yeah.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah, but I'm sure I'm sure it's healthy.

I'm sure it'll do you no harm whatsoever.

Assembly Speaker Robin Voss was on upfront the WISN TV program that is shown statewide on Sunday mornings.

And once again, after the usual lines about, you know, whether he and Governor Evers can reach an agreement on the budget, he was asked about the big bloated boondoggle of Donald Trump's budget bill.

And it's massive cuts and as if he was concerned about the cuts to Medicaid and snap food share benefits and Voss's words, I'd rather just read them.

I don't care to play the audio the way he says it so dismissively.

He says, I'm not at all worried.

I think there is so much hyperbole and exaggeration from my friends on the left.

There are not cuts for anybody who's watching.

There are not cuts in Medicaid.

When they tell you there are cuts, it is untrue.

And that's a line they continue to stick with, you know, including Donald Trump, who promised in February during a Fox News interview, he said, quote, Medicare, Medicaid, none of that stuff is going to be touched.

One day later.

He endorsed the House Republican budget plan that cuts hundreds of billions of dollars in Medicaid, more than $600 billion.

And of course, they don't want to stop there.

You know, Ron Johnson has said as much.

So have others.

Kevin Kramer, the senator from North Dakota, said in one interview, how much waste front abuse is there in Medicare?

Why don't we go after that?

I think we should.

Senate Republican leader John Thune said, I think anything that is waste, fraud, and abuse are obviously open to discussions, which gets us to one of the main points of this program about getting rid of waste, fraud, and abuse.

You, dear listener, you are the waste that they want to cut because you are not a billionaire.

And so the money that you pay in taxes that might come back to you through Medicaid or through

better schools or clean air.

They want that money going elsewhere to the very wealthy as a tax cut.

Not coming back to you as some kind of tax rebate, but actually leaving you and going to people much wealthier than you.

So who all is in this waste fraud and abuse category?

Well, Wisconsin Medicaid director Bill Hannah was also on up front on WISN.

And here's one example that he gives that I think a lot of folks can relate

to.

Let's give a listen.

I think we can look at and think about who is going to be impacted by what's in the House bill.

Let me give you one real clear example that somebody would not be excluded.

We know that individuals 55 to 64 are the least likely to be working and on Medicaid, but that doesn't mean they're not contributing.

You think about somebody who is caring for their grandchildren so that their adult child could work.

We know childcare is a challenge in this state.

That individual...

would no longer be eligible for Medicaid.

They would have to stop caring for their grandchild and go find a job so that they can maintain their Medicaid.

I think that that's specific.

That detail is really important in this conversation instead of broad sweeping generalizations that nobody will get hurt.

Exactly.

Pat Kreitlow

100%.

Bill Hanna, the state's Medicaid director, warning against broad sweeping generalizations.

Because again, when you do that,

And you have, as a state report said yesterday, roughly 63,000 Medicaid recipients in Wisconsin would fall under these new harsher requirements for work or for reporting.

Basically, it's all red tape.

It's more hoops to jump through under the guise of waste, fraud and abuse.

But that's 63,000 people in Wisconsin in varying degrees of health or caregiver status or disability or whatever the case.

that would either have to go out and find employment or would have to stop providing the care that they're providing or fill out even more paperwork online or by paper so often that they finally give up and they lose their benefits without Republicans actually saying that they're cutting the benefits.

What Robin Voss and the others are saying to those 63,000 people on Medicaid in Wisconsin?

is you are all a bunch of lazy couch surfers, and that you should get off your butt, put down the box of bonbons, turn off the soap opera, and go out and get a job you lazy hippie.

That is the message from Robin Voss, and he can say, oh, this is hyperbole, and he can say something's a lie all day long, except that he hasn't told you the truth about something.

He hasn't shown you

if you can actually cut Medicaid $600 million based on waste, fraud, and abuse.

I would like to see that.

Again, just show that to us.

Don't give us one or two examples because in any example of anything, you'll find somebody who is, you know, wasting or squandering the benefits that are out there.

That is not an example.

Give us the example that amounts to, again, you know, that much money being cut.

Because if you can't, then you're kind of giving away the game here and letting us know that you can't actually show waste, fraud, and abuse.

But if I show you somebody who looks lazy, if I show you somebody who looks scary, and I tell you just to multiply that by tens of millions,

Maybe you'll be fooled into thinking that we're actually cutting waste fraud and abuse.

They're not.

They're cutting you.

You are the waste that they need to cut to help their friends.

Still ahead, we'll be talking to Dan Schaefer, political editor from Civic Media about the upcoming State Democratic Convention.

We will visit with Chad Holmes from 98.9 WXO in Warsaw, and we'll give you another chance at hearing our keyword this hour in the Civic Media Scotty Summer Text-to-Win Contest.

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by the end of the hour.

We had Christina Laurion earlier who puts together our daily newsletter here at UpNorth News.

You can sign up for it at our website upnorthnewswi.com.

Among the stories Parker is about National Dairy Month.

And of course, we we make a lot of cheese here.

And not not every flavor cheese is for every taste that's out there.

But there are some folks who love their cheese, shall we say, pungent.

Downright

stinky, if you will.

And that would include, perhaps the stinkiest of all, Limburger.

You ever try it?

Limburger.

I don't even know if

I've

Pat Kreitlow

heard of that.

You've never heard of Limburger?

I

Pat Kreitlow

don't think so.

It is...

According to Merriam-Webster's dictionary here, surface ripened aged and famously malodorous, as in smelling very unpleasant.

It was traditionally in Northern Europe layered between slices of dark bread with raw onions and horseradish or mustard and washed down with good local beer.

and more than one person has quoted that Limburger, you know, at first sniff, really is kind of the stinky feet

sensation.

I'm reading foot odor is what

Pat Kreitlow

I'm

finding here,

Pat Kreitlow

yeah.

And yet, there are people who swear by it.

And so Food Network, as they list all of the iconic eats and drinks from across America's Dairyland, does a little focus on Limburger as well.

America's lone remaining Limburger Cheese Factory is a chalet cheese co-op, and they still make and distribute more than a million pounds of Limburger annually.

And they're all located in the town square in Little Monroe.

And I can't be too

critical.

I mean, I wouldn't try it.

But I also know that we have come a long way from, you know, just processed, you know, American cheese, you know, there's, there's cheddar.

I've now learned to appreciate an aged cheddar.

I've really learned to appreciate an aged Gouda.

I used to never want blue cheese, you know, put blue cheese on a hamburger on a salad or whatever.

I'm like, well, that's mold.

Why would I put mold on there?

And then of course, I tried it.

And I liked it.

I love

Pat Kreitlow

blue cheese on everything.

So there Limburger.

That's the thing for y'all to try next is is challenge your cheese taste buds for something new and see if you can go up up the scale a notch.

Maybe not all the way to Limburger Limburger, but ease yourself in so.

Yeah, so again, that story is in our daily newsletter at UpNorthNewsWI.com.

Tony says, oh, I love Gouda.

Yes, and about the Limburger.

He says, sounds fancy and terrible.

Yeah, matter of opinion there.

We also have a Sunday newsletter that I put together.

It's called Not All That Creatively, Sunday Mornings with Pat Rightlow.

And on those Sunday mornings, you can get some of the best of what we covered for the week in news, but we also have a question of the week.

and it actually came from something that we were discussing on air here with Chad Holmes and Chad will be along in our next hour to talk to us about stories he's covering in the Wausau area where there is discussion on whether it is time to move from a mayoral form of city leadership to a city manager and other communities have tried that or maybe have gone back and forth to a city manager.

And at the county level, there have been professionals who have been appointed as county administrators as opposed to an elected county executive.

So that's our question of the week is, you know, for your city and county, would you want somebody elected, somebody local, or do you want to get above the politics and have a professional who's appointed?

So mayor or city manager.

county executive or county administrator that's in our weekend Sunday morning newsletter and of course you can answer it by email as well just send us an email radio at upnorthnewswi.com again radio at upnorthnewswi.com and share your thoughts on that.

Coming up on the Civic Media radio network later today Dan Schaefer is pinch hitting for Maggie Dawn.

Now Dan will also be with us during the next hour

But before he hosts and fills in for Maggie Dawn this afternoon, he's going to publish his latest column for civic media and the recombobulation area.

And a lot of it is about the chatter coming up for the State Democratic Convention.

and he's going to give his take on some of how those conversations should be going.

And then he'll talk all about it when he fills in for Maggie Dawn with his guest cohost, Angela Lang from Block.

So quite the dynamic duo that you can catch this afternoon from four to six right after Todd Alba's show from two to four across the Civic Media Radio Network.

Up North News belongs to Courier Newsroom, a pro-democracy newsroom with many newsletters and podcasts and series, not just this fine radio show, but here's a new one that they're starting.

It's called Represent, and it follows Deja Fox.

She's an activist, she's a political strategist, she's a digital content creator, and now she's a candidate.

She's running for Congress in Arizona's seventh congressional district.

And so our Arizona outlet, the Copper Courier, is going behind the scenes to document Deja Fox's insurgent campaign.

And so if you want one of those, you know, peek behind the curtains, what's the, Parker, what's the sports version on ESPN?

Is it where they go behind with a football team all season long?

Uh, hard knocks.

I

Pat Kreitlow

think I don't think there's a question mark on there, but yeah,

I

Pat Kreitlow

okay Stump the producer always always a great game to play anyway, you get you get the same version but of a political campaign for this campaign in Arizona and again for that you can search for courier newsroom on YouTube and then scroll down the YouTube page to the videos for the new series called represent

along with all the other newsletters and great things that are there at couriernewsroom.com.

We talked earlier about how Robert Kennedy Jr.

has just fired the entire vaccine advisory panel for the Centers for Disease Control.

What could go wrong, right?

As we know, the cuts that the Trump administration wants to make are even bigger than that.

And so here's the latest shoe to drop this one from a Milwaukee Journal Sentinel story saying that nine Wisconsin clinics could lose funding for HIV testing after the latest funding freeze and a flurry of grant related changes nationwide.

The article says the Trump budget proposal for 2026 looks to make cuts to HIV prevention.

in clinics and community organizations.

The High Impact HIV Prevention and Surveillance Program for Health Departments covers HIV testing, prevention medication costs, and treatment for other sexually transmitted infections like syphilis, gonorrhea, and chlamydia.

The Centers for Disease Control awarded $400 million to 59 health departments nationwide for this five-year grant.

and Wisconsin in the first year alone received just under $2 million.

The second year of that grant was due to start on June 1st and while Milwaukee clinics are waiting on word about the future of their CDC funding, they're also trying to make plans for how to keep services available.

The journal Sentinel quotes a clinic operations manager for the Brady East Sexual Health Clinic as saying they were slated to receive $50,000 per year but will use emergency funds to keep free services accessible while they look for alternative funding options.

Chris Allen, the president and CEO of Diverse and Resilient says the pause in funding undermines efforts to address the health disparities and violence that our community faces.

And again, it just really leads to the uncertainty.

We've spoken in the past with Tanya Atkinson from Planned Parenthood Advocates of Wisconsin about the ongoing efforts to slash their funding, which does not go to any abortion care whatsoever.

It goes to the basic health care services that they provide in their clinics located all throughout Wisconsin.

And these basic health services and now HIV testing are in danger.

People say, well, if you got emergency funds, you'll be fine.

They're emergency funds.

They're going to run out.

And so we can either, once again, depend upon the benevolence of billionaires who will eventually fund these things, or we can decide that that's a better use of our tax dollars.

then giving tax cuts to billionaires.

The Journal Sentinel list of other clinics that are facing cuts from the Trump administration include Benedict Center, the City of Racine Health Department, the Eau Claire City County Health Department, Empowering Community Action Initiative, Outreach Inc, and UW Health.

And again,

in every one of these places there will be somebody that says well gosh there's so so many places there there can't help but be you know some kind of waste fraud and abuse and these things maybe so maybe so so you do what you investigate and you prosecute when you find it you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater or the baby's vaccines as the case may be

But that's exactly what the Trump administration is looking to do.

And again, not to save you any money.

Not to save you any money.

Just to make your life just a little bit harder.

One more note from out of the Milwaukee area, the old Pap's Brewery in Milwaukee's Brewery District.

And I bring this up somewhat for personal reasons because for a very short time in between jobs in the Milwaukee area while Sherry was going to med school, I worked

in the offices of the of the old Pap's brewery.

And, you know, again, just a really cool district, a lot of history there.

And a lot of folks are familiar with the big Pap's neon sign, you know, in five big neon letters on a catwalk, basically, that goes between two two buildings there.

And apparently, according to an article in the Milwaukee Business Journal, the Pap's sign could be trading at neon for LED lighting.

The proposed lights would be laid out exactly the same.

The Brewery Neighborhood Improvement District, which is the steward of the sign, is attached to the bridge that connects what are now the Malt House Apartments and the Brewery House Inn and Suites.

And I have to say it, now I haven't been there for a few years here, but again, there are few things more satisfying.

then seen when you can take an old neighborhood and old buildings and fix them up and have like an entirely new neighborhood without having to get out the wrecking ball.

I know I've mentioned the Walker's Point neighborhood in downtown Milwaukee previously, where again, when we lived there 30 years ago, it was a dump.

There was just all old buildings, old warehouses, and it is now fixed up so nice that you can

definitely spend a weekend at one of one of the nice boutique hotels down there, great restaurants, good shops, and that's certainly what they're trying to do up in the Milwaukee area as well.

So up there at the old Pap's Brewery, the Milwaukee Historic Preservation Commission this month recommended approval of a request to repaint the lettering, but they have not yet taken a final vote on the lighting, hoping that they would be able to do that because otherwise if they have to repair the neon glass inside,

You've got workers, you know, dangling 80 feet up in the air and a task that can cost a few thousand dollars compared to the much lower less energy using LED lights that could go up there instead.

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and be enrolled in the Scani Summer Text-to-Win Contest.

We've been talking a bit about coffee and other morning beverages and Dan Hagen mentioned earlier that his dad puts maple syrup in his coffee.

Alicia chimes in, Dan sounds like my dad.

He would put maple syrup in his coffee too.

Really?

Honey in your tea, yes.

But maple syrup and coffee, that sounds, that's unique.

I believe

it.

I think that'd be good.

Pat Kreitlow

I believe this is our own James Kelly up in Chippewa Falls who says, Dr. Pepper drinkers are built different.

We're the only ones who will crack open a soda in the office at 7 AM with no shame at all.

Yep, that tracks.

Have a little

shame, please.

Pat Kreitlow

Nope, nope.

And on our question of the week, Alicia says that she says, I could see the advantages of having both a manager or an administrator and an elected executive, which, right.

why we made it our question of the week because I mean put yourself on a city council and which would work better for you or you know as a as an interested resident of your city or county because I'm not saying there's one that's right or wrong it might be what you have in your community might be a little different and that was the the the point that was being made by Shareen Stewart and the Wasaw pilot and review last week that maybe in Wasaw right now it's time to talk about

a city manager form of government rather than an elected mayor.

Parker, I would imagine that you are a fan of Brian Anderson who calls Brewers games on TV.

When he does it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, funny that you say that because yes, the

You know TNT isn't doing the basketball anymore and I don't think TBS has really fired up the baseball yet And I know Brian Anderson has been busy on so many things, but you're wondering.

Well, where is he?

Why isn't he back yet?

Turns out because I haven't watched any of the French open on TV He was making his debut at Roland Garros as calling play-by-play of the French open Including that longest ever men's singles final the other day which went five and a half hours

That's what we want.

Which I've heard described as, you know, the best ever final for the French Open, which I would have wanted to see that already because I don't dislike tennis on TV.

I just don't seek it out.

But if you like Wimbledon, I will watch that if I come upon it on the TV.

Had I known Brian Anderson was going to be doing that match, I definitely would have tuned in because, I mean, he is far and away my favorite play by play.

He's far and away the most talented play by play guy out there.

I like

Pat Kreitlow

him a lot, yeah.

But he says he told the Milwaukee Business Journal that yesterday he finally returned to his home in suburban Waukesha County and in a phone interview says that he will resume his brewers play-by-play announcing day after tomorrow.

He'll be back on Thursday.

He will be once again with Sophia Minert and Bill Schroeder calling the games.

Jeff Levering has been doing a lot of the play-by-play

in Anderson's place, and Jeff Levering has been there how many years now, five maybe?

Is it more?

Something like that, yeah.

Probably as long as

Valley Sports, probably.

Pat Kreitlow

He has really grown into that role.

And again, maybe I was just holding his youth against him when Jeff Levering and Lane Grindel started doing some of the radio work for the Brewers.

And Lane is now handling things very capably with Josh Maurer.

Josh Maurer, again, I'm a big fan of his when he's doing the radio play by play.

But I think Jeff Levering's done a really nice job there, no matter whether you're on TV or radio.

But it's going to be really nice to have Brian Anderson back in there.

It's kind of like the comfort food of brewers play-by-play announcers.

Yeah, he's definitely the voice for a lot of people.

Yes.

Pat Kreitlow

And I see Sophia Menor got some other kind of award in the off season.

I apologize.

I don't have it in front of me.

But again, just I really like her.

No nonsense.

Just gets the work done, you know, and then conveys it in such an easygoing way to to the TV audience.

I just think we have a tremendous team and obviously we we miss Bob Euker terribly.

But you know, these are just

real professionals we have.

I, I hear a lot of play by play, you know, either on the radio or I hear highlights elsewhere.

And I just think we're very fortunate here between what we have here.

We've got, um, uh, you know, Wayne Larvey doing the Packers games who I, I was a fan of his when he was calling Chicago Bears games.

I actually enjoyed listening to Chicago Bears games back in the.

back in the late 80s, early 90s when Wayne Laravie was doing.

I was so happy to see that he came to the Packers now.

Anyway, Brian Anderson also talked about working with John McEnroe and he likened it to working with Duke.

Again, just somebody who is a real veteran, somebody who's very

colorful, shall we say?

Brian Anderson called him funny, whimsical.

You never know where he's going.

You never know what rabbit hole he's going to go down.

He speaks his mind, holds nothing back.

I had a blast with him.

I really enjoyed sitting next to him.

Oh, no, I'm sorry.

That was Parker Olson after his first week describing working here on the morning show.

I don't remember that.

You don't?

Oh, I don't remember that.

I've got to hear and writing some play that could have been AI.

I don't know.

I'm not really sure.

But he will he will be back in the booth later this week.

So that'll that'll be very nice.

I was going to but I think I'm running short on time here.

I was going to share one more story I didn't have time to do with Christina Laurie, another one of the stories that's added to our website that she put in.

The headline is called Wisconsin Dells unveils the state's first mountain coaster.

And what is it?

And she goes on to explain this first mountain coaster, but I'm going to leave you up in the air about this.

No pun intended about the coaster since we're coming up on the eight o'clock news here, but I wanted to dangle that in front of you to do a little crowdsourcing out here.

because Sharita Booker, we used to visit with her on Tuesdays and she'd talk about some of the most popular stories of the past week.

Well, I'm just gonna handle that now because Sharita has really enjoyed and the listeners have enjoyed her talking about events that are coming up for the following weekend.

And so we will hear from her now on Thursdays.

But I wanna hear from all of you as well.

So we're crowdsourcing this thing.

What are the things that are coming up in your community?

this coming weekend, a parade, a festival, a dairy breakfast or whatever that you want to give a little shout out for, give a little plug and say, Hey, if you're ever in, you know, in my zip code, this is the thing that you're going to want to do.

So again, send us a note radio at up north news wi.com or put something in the comment sections here.

And we would love to hear from you in our eight o'clock hour, chat homes and Dan Schaefer and the updated forecast from Brittany Merleau here on these mornings powered by up north news on the civic media radio network.

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Pat Kreitlow

Good morning, 806.

Nice to have you back here on this.

What is it?

Tuesday morning, June 10th.

Look at the screen, Pat.

You put the date right on there.

Tuesday, June 10th, 2025.

Nice to have you here up north, live from Lake Wissota on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Let's see, we've got Parker Olson in Madison Studio A2.

Meteorologist Brittany Merlowe will be here in a second.

Chad Holmes will be.

Chad, did I ask you about studio letters last time around?

Oh, you're muted by the way, so well you take care of that.

Yes, you did.

What did we come up with?

Oh, you didn't care.

That was it.

Did you ever find out the letter for Wausau?

Chad Holmes

No.

I mean, I probably should make it up myself.

I can put a sign on the door.

I could do that.

I think I got that within my realm of responsibilities and I think that's maybe why next time we talk, I'll have something that has right on that door right behind me.

Pat Kreitlow

I don't know.

I got a feeling I'm going to keep an eye on my text line over here.

I think Mr. Mathers will be racing to take credit for the letter before, before you know it.

Uh, let's see on the text line from Lori in Hayward.

Good morning guys.

My dad and my grandpa would get up early and oftentimes stay up late to go fishing, but they'd always come home for a hot cup of coffee with a little splash of Canadian club.

or perhaps it was a little splash of something from grandpa's secret little brandy bottle.

Uh, we were all young kids and probably wouldn't know the difference.

Um, I think you would know the difference if there was some Canadian.

Well, I suppose when you're a kid, you don't know what's in the coffee, but we're, we're not advocating for that here at all.

We're simply passing a lot.

Oh, look at Tony.

Chad is in studio G for great.

Aww, Tony.

Chad Holmes

I'm

Pat Kreitlow

gonna have a

Chad Holmes

big G on that door come next time.

Pat Kreitlow

Tony Chad doesn't care.

How do you like that reaction?

No, it's

Chad Holmes

wonderful.

I like that one.

That's good.

Pat Kreitlow

All right.

Well, while I wait for that certain text from Mr. Mathers, let's turn to Brittany Merleau with a forecast that has today as potentially the driest day of the week.

Brittney Merlot

Yes, it does.

It's finally here.

That

Pat Kreitlow

one day,

Brittney Merlot

right?

One day, 24 hours in the break of rain right now.

Of course, there are still little sprinkles out there in central parts of the state, but barely, barely, barely, barely, mostly cloudy statewide.

There is some sunshine far south.

Enjoy it.

If you haven't, we are going to see that.

continuing to spread north.

So more and more clouds continuing to clear on out of here.

There is some patchy fog and Tomahawk and Phillips this morning.

Temperatures are in the 50s up north to about 60 degrees down south this morning and highs today are going to make it to the low to mid 70s all across the state.

Maybe some 80s far west towards the Mississippi and then maybe some mid 60s far northeast.

But otherwise a beautiful day becoming mostly sunny.

Of course that last light at 922 this evening and tomorrow even warmer.

We're going to the mid 80s down south.

to mid to upper seventies up north.

We'll start the day off with some sunshine, but there are chances as a front drapes right through the central parts of the state for some more showers and then some thunderstorms roll through late at night and especially far south in the state.

But we'll keep tracking that for you.

It's a little bit unsettled as we go through the rest of this week.

So enjoy it now if you have time.

Pat Kreitlow

So I may get in my hammock for more than 60 seconds.

Brittney Merlot

You will.

Kathryn Lake

Today's the day.

Pat Kreitlow

I don't think you were

on yesterday when I told the story of how happy I was to get all the yard work done just before, you know, this thunderstorm cell moved in.

We'd see it on our phones and like mo faster, you know, and I had been hoping to maybe spend an hour in the hammock after that.

And you see the rain is almost there.

So finished the yard work, jumped in the hammock, took the obligatory photo of my tennis shoes and the lake behind me that I'm in the hammock and then the rain started.

So I'm hoping today I get more than 60 seconds in the hammock this afternoon.

Brittney Merlot

Here's hoping.

You deserve it.

You deserve it.

After all that yard work too, I mean, yeah.

That's right.

Today's the

Pat Kreitlow

day.

Oh, the landscaping's beautiful.

Brittney Merlot

Good.

Pat Kreitlow

So those darn weeds come back.

Thank you, Brittany.

Have a wonderful day.

You too.

All right.

Chad Holmes is with us from 98.9 WXCO.

We'll talk a little news, talk a little sports.

You want to start with the sports?

You got spring postseason stuff and you're...

You're busy today even.

Yeah, heading, heading your,

Chad Holmes

heading your direction.

Yes.

You know where Augusta is, right?

Sure do.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah.

Chad Holmes

Heading to Augusta.

Basically, when things wrap up around nine o'clock as sectional baseball going on today, a lot of sectionals around the state of Wisconsin.

There are 14 tournaments basically and the winners advanced to the state tournament next week and we're covering the marathon high school baseball team here and Have a game at one o'clock and if they win they would play at four o'clock as well So looking forward to that and was very happy to hear Britney say was gonna be dry today.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes Definitely, that's the thing is the spring high school sports.

I mean, especially baseball softball early in the season so many games are canceled so many practices are moved indoors and

deserve the season to end on a nice note and then it all comes to a head for the championships next week at Fox City Stadium in Grand Chute.

Do you go out there for that?

Chad Holmes

Yeah, I've been there in the past.

It's really cool to be able to

to go to a beautiful facility like that and any of the state tournaments.

I mean, I know it's a big thrill for the kids involved and the coaches and the parents, but it's also a big thrill for those of us who get the opportunity to broadcast as well.

So, you know, knock on wood.

It'll be a good day today and hopefully be able to head on over there next week.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah, girl softball.

Meanwhile, the championships begin tomorrow in Madison.

Chad Holmes

Yeah, that's it's actually kind of cool because one of the schools around here DC ever says never been to state before and they're heading to the state tournament and it's always something very cool about a group or a school or a community that has never had that opportunity to be able to do it for the first time there's some Perennial powers that are always there seems like every single year and sometimes it does get probably a little bit old I know for the individuals involved it never gets old, but when it's like oh, they're back again here this year.

They're back again this year, but when you

see somebody new and the excitement that goes around that, it's fantastic.

And of all the state tournaments, I think in some ways the softball was the best one.

I went there about 10, 12 years ago in generally.

And it's like the perfect size because you basically get the Goodman field filled up to the rim.

It's a beautiful facility where the Wisconsin Badgers play.

You like to have that big game feel and you really have it with the softball.

It was really a fun experience the year that I was.

able to go down there and broadcast.

Pat Kreitlow

I have have a stupid boy comment here.

You know, I used to baseball, watching baseball.

And at some point, I want to say freshman in high school was the first time that I, you know, stumbled upon, you know, not intentionally, but come across this field.

And there's a softball game going on high school girl softball.

And up until that point, because again, there's no ESPN back then where you're seeing these, seeing these young women, you know, throwing 50, 60, 70 miles an hour.

And so as my first exposure to high school level,

girl softball and I was so hooked right from the guy was so impressed with the, with the pitching especially.

And you, you see why the sport has grown as popular as it has.

Why so many people were watching, um, you know, the college world series last week, for example.

Chad Holmes

And actually usually at this point where when the baseball ends, I get some time off from the play by play, but.

A few weeks ago, one of the parents on the softball time, and I was over broadcasting the softball game, said, well, we got this American Legion softball that just started a couple of years ago.

Would you be able to broadcast some of our games?

I said, well, if you can help us get a little bit of sponsorship.

We might

Kathryn Lake

do

Chad Holmes

that.

So they came through with a little sponsorship.

So tomorrow night I'll be doing a American Legion softball broadcast here on WXCO as well.

But it shows that that's growing as well because that's something that's new.

I'm sure you've heard about American Legion baseball for a long time.

We had not had anything along the lines with the softball as well.

And also real fast this year here in Wausau, I know for sure.

I think this league has been around maybe.

at least for a year.

The Northwoods League, of course, is the Woodbat league.

And we have the Wasa Woodshucks here.

And of course, there's teams all over the place.

Well, Northwoods League has started a softball version as well.

Oh, and

Chad Holmes

Wasa has a team called the Wasa.

Good night.

And that's a lot of girls and a lot of guys are excited because as you said, it's a very exciting sport.

So now here at athletic park they have woodchucks games and now they also have wasa ignite games as well That's getting underway.

I think this week if I'm not mistaken.

So It continues to grow and it's great to see those opportunities I don't know if I told you this story about my mom was a really big into athletics But she went to school in the 60s in the late 60s and up to this day I mean she went on and in Wittenberg.

She won the Wittenberg golf

championship for women's multiple times back in the 70s and she played softball forever.

She still says to this day how much she wishes she would have the opportunity in high school to play sports, to play softball and basketball and stuff like that.

But that was before the early 70s when Title IX came through and gave the opportunities for girls and women.

You know, it's not that long ago that the girls did not have the same equal opportunities.

And I think it's important to recognize the folks that brought that to us.

I mean, the good that was done through that.

Pat Kreitlow

Oh, you mean those people who were discriminating against men, you know, to hear the Trump administration go after DEI right now?

Yeah, anyway, let's set that aside for a second.

The girls soccer championships are coming up next week in Milwaukee.

And then finally, the boys golf championships wrap up today at University Ridge in Madison.

So very busy postseason out there.

Chad Holmes

Actually, it was funny.

We were talking earlier during one of my local segments because my in-studio engineer crossed the wave.

His dad is the golf coach at wasa east and wasa east qualified their team for the state tournament So they're involved in it yesterday was round one today is round two.

So he's out there at university Ridge walking around with the wasa east Golf team as well.

So there's

all these little connections going on right now.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah.

So I mentioned that in our Sunday newsletter, our question of the week really stemmed from our conversation last week about the editorial in the Wasaw pilot and review advocating for considering a city manager form of government instead of a mayoral.

And I wondered if do you think that sparked more discussions in Wasaw proper?

Was that more of a one off and it's not going to get any traction?

What do you

Chad Holmes

I think, well, it's going to be a process because obviously...

folks like us bring it up and I think Shareen is within the umbrella of what we do.

It does bring up thought, it brings up discussion, and this is something that's been around here in Wausau for a long time.

As long as I've been doing these kind of programs is that there has been a few folks that have been pushing for this and it's been pushed back, but I do think that maybe just right now the dysfunction in certain areas of our city government is leading to maybe a little bit deeper thought.

on it but I do think that as we talked about last week I mean there everything always looks the old grass is greener kind of feel but there's issues with the other way of doing it as well and I think hey having the discussion is a good way to do it but if it maybe makes things tighten up a little bit here at City Hall maybe it makes certain folks think a little bit about what they're doing at City Hall maybe that would be a good thing as well.

Pat Kreitlow

I will never forget my in college covering the Eau Claire County Board as a young cub reporter.

And they had an administrator's name was Ron Wampler, real professional guy.

And he would all the time have to correct there were like one or two people on the County Board.

And it was almost like, you know, the one of those Gilda Radner characters on weekend update, where she just start to spout off on something.

And Ron would be like, Fran, Fran, we covered that Fran is on page 12 of your booklet.

Fran, turn to page 12.

Oh, never mind.

So sometimes it's nice to have a little professional help in there from time

Kathryn Lake

to

Pat Kreitlow

time.

Chad Holmes covers everything around the Wausau area.

New sports and more for 98.9 WXCO.

Listen to them on the Civic Media app as well.

Safe travels for the game today.

We'll talk to you a little later on.

Thank you, gentlemen.

All right.

Thank you.

Still ahead, we're going to be talking to Dan Schaefer, political editor for Civic Media and of course, founder of the Reconpopulation Area about the upcoming Democratic State Convention this weekend in the Dells.

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Pat Kreitlow

The Brewers could only manage one run yesterday.

It was a William Contreras two-out single that scored Joey Ortiz.

And that's all she wrote for the Brewers.

One run.

Atlanta beat the Brewers 7-1 last night.

They will play again at American Family Field pregame beginning at 6-05 on several civic media stations.

And then a day game tomorrow with a pregame that gets underway around 12-35, 12-40 tomorrow.

So a little afternoon baseball tomorrow.

in the Milwaukee area if you're around or across the Civic Media radio network if you'd like to hear the game.

Florida walloped Edmonton in the Stanley Cup finals last night six to one so Florida is now ahead in the Stanley Cup finals two games to one over Edmonton game four is Thursday night in Miami in the NBA playoffs in the finals the

Oklahoma City Thunder and the Indiana Pacers will face off tomorrow in Indy for continuing that game, that series, rather that is tied at one game apiece.

Tomorrow here on the program, we will have Earl Ingram.

We have a

Melissa Kay as well, so we've got James Kelly.

It's like a big civic media day.

You've got Earl Ingram with the stories from Southeast Wisconsin, James Kelly with the stories from Northeast Wisconsin, and Melissa Kay from the Wisconsin Deles, sorry, Wisconsin Deles, Wisconsin Rapids area.

But more importantly, of course, when it's Melissa Kay, we're gonna get an update on

the pigeons.

I don't have the sound right

Pat Kreitlow

now.

Pigeon quest.

Yeah, I know we don't have an echo thing for the live mic, but we'll just have to do it in unison.

Pigeon quest.

I'm clipping.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

That's a keeper.

So Melissa Kale have that until Melissa just doesn't show up one of these Wednesdays at six fifty and just says I'm I'm just

she'll

Pat Kreitlow

be too busy taking care of the pigeons.

That could be it.

Yeah.

I mean maybe the FMLA covers pigeon care as well.

You never know.

Also we'll have our homeroom segment tomorrow.

We have the the departing and the incoming leaders for the Eau Claire educators union teachers union and Eau Claire talking about the school year and the challenges there.

And I believe we have a representative from the Green Bay area.

as well talking to us.

So a very busy Wednesday ahead here on the program.

Hope that you will join us.

Now, if you can't join us live, you can certainly join us by way of, you know, the podcasts.

And there are many ways to get that, of course.

You've got the Civic Media website.

You've got Apple.

And I had to admit a couple of weeks back,

I really didn't know much about Spotify because, again, being in what I like to jokingly refer to as the cult of Apple, just assumed, oh, everybody's got an iPhone.

Everybody's there.

Well, no, say all the Android people.

And in fact, of all of the podcasts that are out there, Apple has about 33% of the market, Spotify 37% of the market.

So I have been missing the boat on this.

So again, while we'd love to have you listening on the radio, if you got to do the podcast, head on over to Spotify and look us up.

You can just search for Wisconsin politics and you will see this show come up be a subscriber Take it along with you and not just on Spotify.

Of course, there's there's I haven't heard of these cast box Overcast I've heard of that one buzz sprout Do you use a particular podcast app at Spotify?

I've never heard of any of those things you were just saying

Pat Kreitlow

No, I don't either.

And of course, again, the website, Facebook, YouTube, tune in the Civic Media app as well.

So many ways to get us.

And just when you're on those Spotify and Apple music, make sure that you rate us.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes, please.

We would love that very much.

It helps.

All right.

So I left you hanging last hour about how in Wisconsin Dells they have unveiled the state's first mountain coaster.

At the Waterpark Capital of the World, it is a 4,000-foot-long thrill ride with no water involved.

Unlike traditional roller coasters, mountain coasters are gravity-driven, Christina Laurie writes, which means they use the natural incline to propel you down the track and you control your speed.

And unlike many other weather dependent attractions in the Dells, these coasters can operate year-round even in the snow.

Plus, mountain coasters are designed with the environment in mind, so you can enjoy nature without hurting it.

And then she gives the address.

It's on County Highway A in Wisconsin Dells to learn more about the first ever.

Let's see.

I clicked on the website here.

Just see what I get.

It's actually called WisconsinDellsMountainCoaster.com.

experience Wisconsin's only mountain coaster.

And I mean, I've I've seen these kinds of things before.

Again, on mountains that you ever see on social media, they've got them in like, I don't know, the Austrian Alps

Kathryn Lake

or something

Pat Kreitlow

like that.

And you much like Bob's letting you go who in their right mind.

would do this, but there are thrill seekers out there who want to do this kind of thing, would you?

This seems

really fun.

I would love to do this, actually.

Yeah.

Really?

Yeah.

This seems really cool.

Pat Kreitlow

Well, I guess the one thing is, if it crashes, you won't really know.

It's going to happen so fast, you

know?

I don't think that.

Is that possible?

Is it possible to crash off of one of these things?

Pat Kreitlow

Oh, I'm sure.

Buddy, I work in the news business.

I've seen more ways for things to go haywire than, I mean, I used to refer to my AP, you know, teletype, the little news ticker

Kathryn Lake

when I was

Pat Kreitlow

younger, and it was a literal teletype.

I used to refer to that as a death machine because all these ways would come over, you know, a 28-year-old Montana woman died when, and you look going, how could that possibly happen?

You know, but it does.

So I'm, I'm again.

Urging everybody to ride the mountain coaster.

I'm just saying don't never say never about anything and that's the reason I'm not going because that's when the never would happen Okay, again Christina Laurie had that article on our website up north news wi.com and Christina will be back here across the civic media radio network tomorrow evening in the seven o'clock hour She will be joining a peach wabba for a nightlight

And again, Christina writes our daily newsletters and now a Saturday sports newsletter as well.

So you get newsletter seven days a week out of us at UpNorthNews, at upnorthnewswi.com.

You click subscribe in the banner on top of the homepage.

It takes you to a page that gives you all three options.

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Coming up next, Dan Schaefer.

I'm live from Lake Wissoda, a great place to spend part of your mornings.

And this is the Civic Media Radio

Network, Dan Schaefer, right after this.

Hey, welcome back.

Let's talk to Dan Schaefer, Civic Media's political editor, and of course, the founder of the Reconbobulation area where he writes columns, has guest columns, and tells us about all things in Wisconsin and including Milwaukee area politics.

And he's got another column that is coming out very, very soon.

And talking about the State Democratic Convention, we'll get into that a little bit later.

Mr. Schaefer, good morning.

How are you?

Dan Shafer

Good morning, Mr. Kreitlau.

Doing well.

How are you?

Pat Kreitlow

Doing well, thanks.

Take note that the state budget continues to be at an impasse.

I have, of course, given my two cents on Republicans walking away from the negotiating table with Governor Tony Evers and whether there was actually anything new or surprising about it.

But maybe I'm a little too cynical, Dan.

Here's where you tell me how both sides were negotiating in good faith and they just couldn't get it done.

Dan Shafer

Well, that was the news coming in the middle of last week, late last week about the governor and various different entities within the Republican-controlled legislature releasing statements saying that they had reached this impasse.

And I've heard a little bit of rumblings about what happened.

I'm not exactly sure what it was all about just yet, but it just seems like Governor Evers was ready to meet.

Republicans, you know, halfway or whatever it is on some of their tax cut goals, their one economic policy, a tax cut, and was hoping for, as he outlined in his statement, funding for K-12 education, childcare, and UW system.

Clearly, the Republicans did not...

do enough on that.

I've heard some rumblings in particular on child care that they really did not come to the table in ways that many people were hoping for, especially considering how dire the need is on that particular issue when we're looking at a quarter to a third of child care centers potentially facing closure later this year because of this.

So obviously you would want to make that a priority in these negotiations, but

It seems they've fallen apart, and it seems that maybe what will happen next is Republicans will have the same process that we've had for the last three budget cycles in this era of divided government.

We'll have the Republicans writing the budget, and then Tony Evers will come in with his partial vetoes, and then the Republicans will get mad about those partial vetoes in the end.

Can we see this whole show playing

Pat Kreitlow

out yet again, Mr. Karitlow?

Yes, without a doubt, we most certainly can.

So when Speaker Voss was being interviewed on WISN TVs up front, he took offense.

He clutched his pearls, as one might say, and said, well, I mean, you're talking as if we were on zero.

We weren't sitting on zero.

We had proposals, and they just weren't good enough for the governor.

And it just reminds me of an old Republican trick we'd see.

every time there was a budget due, is they'd say, well, we are once again proposing a record amount of spending.

And what would happen is they'd basically, I'm just exaggerating a little bit, but they'd spend a dollar extra and say, look, last year we spent this much, this year it's a record.

Like, yeah, and it's so short of inflation or the growing need for this or that.

And so, of course, Speaker Vos can say, well, we weren't on zero,

But again, they're not sharing the actual numbers, but I have a feeling the numbers were effectively zero for the good that they would have done because let's just take childcare.

You said there's dire need out there.

Dan, you and I both know there are more than a couple of Republican legislators whose honest opinion is there isn't a dire need for childcare out there.

Right,

Dan Shafer

and we have...

And that is reflected in their priorities and what they've been doing in addressing this issue.

You know, the Child Care Couch Program that Evers is looking to fund worked.

It was a pilot program that they were working on before the pandemic that they were able to, you know, prop up with the federal dollars that were coming with pandemic relief money with some of those ARPA dollars.

They propped up this program.

It worked.

It worked.

It was a pilot program that worked.

How often do we actually see that in government these days?

But it, you know, raised wages for people who are childcare providers.

It helped those centers stay open and it helped keep costs manageable for families.

And the only way and that has been effective.

Now, Republicans last cycle talked about introducing some sort of, you know, kind of targeted tax credits and working with employers.

Well, they had this one tax credit that passed that Evers did sign.

And but the problem with it was that zero people, zero businesses took advantage of this tax credit in the first year.

Zero businesses.

How often does that happen?

Right.

So I think this is just an example of.

We need to stick with what we have seen.

It is proven to work and clearly Republicans did not do enough to come to the table on funding these childcare priorities and this is going to really make things difficult for working families in Wisconsin.

Pat Kreitlow

I have got to get the data on that one particular tax credit.

I recall hearing about it and not that zero businesses took part because it is now a tangible

example of something that we've talked about a lot in the 40 plus years of trickle down economic Reaganism supply side theories that are out there.

If you're okay, Mr. Republican politician or Ms.

Republican politician, if you're okay giving more money in tax breaks to the very wealthy because you believe that there will be this net positive effect as they make investments in the economy as they create jobs and everything,

Why wouldn't you also see that when you do that for, say, a childcare teacher or a small business owner, you actually get a bigger multiplier effect because they're not going to put that extra money into, you know, more stocks and bonds.

They're going to spend it directly in the local economy on some other small business who's going to turn around and probably spend it on another small business.

And if they understand why you would want to give big tax breaks,

I don't get why they wouldn't understand why you would help in something like child care where, again, you have a proven economic impact.

It's not even a question, Dan.

I'm sorry.

I'll just never understand

Dan Shafer

it.

Well, and this is a program that the Wisconsin Policy Forum, objective public policy analysis, some of the best that we have here in Wisconsin, gave the child care accounts.

program and award for innovation in government spending.

And here we have, and the report that I was mentioning about no businesses taking advantage of this tax credit is a piece from the Cap Times last week where they talked about how an outside consultant reviewed that tax incentive for the WEDC and said, quote, due to the high operational costs of childcare centers, affordability would likely be better achieved through a subsidy as opposed to a tax incentive.

No businesses have taken advantage of the childcare element of the tax program according to a spokesperson from the WDC.

Again, that's a piece last week published by the CapTimes.

Pat Kreitlow

So there's the solution out there.

Not the one that they proposed.

Maybe they should take a look at the other one.

So where we are in the process now is the Joint Finance Committee heads back into the meeting room and, you know, piece by piece starts to go through the state budget.

And essentially what they're doing is they're writing the Republican version of the budget bill, you know, not exactly working off what Governor Tony Evers gave them for his proposals.

But what emerges from this will be the Republican bill and they will add and

subtract some things.

And one of the things they're talking about adding is a tax credit for teachers who are buying classroom supplies, which again, shouldn't necessarily be a thing.

We're not talking, you know, they're buying a box of crayons here and there.

They're buying a tremendous amount of supplies because of underfunded schools.

But rather than funding the schools, Republicans are saying, Well, here's here's a credit on your taxes.

Dan Shafer

Yeah, isn't this ridiculous?

Like it just is.

Maybe we maybe we could cut out the middle portion of this whole thing and oh, I don't know Just fund the schools to begin with so that teachers don't have to spend their own personal dollars on classroom supplies and materials and all of that

Why not just fund schools to begin with?

Cut out the middle part of this ridiculous runaround that Republicans are doing.

Maybe just give the teachers the resources they need to make their classrooms the best places possible for their students.

It's funny,

Pat Kreitlow

as you were saying it, Tony was typing it on YouTube in the comment section over here.

Great

Dan Shafer

minds,

Pat Kreitlow

Mr. Zimmerman.

here's here's part of the answer to that is that of course like you said not every teacher will take advantage of the tax credit or won't make enough money to qualify for the tax credit so it's just like the child care example you gave and it's just like the Medicaid cuts where they say with a straight face there are no there are no benefit cuts but if they put all these hoops in place where you can't take advantage of them well you know that's that's too bad for you.

So we know the direct answer of of helping people don't cut their Medicaid, provide direct support to funding for schools adequately, provide direct support for childcare, but

That's that's not what we're getting at this point and I don't expect to see it necessarily in the Republican budget once the Joint Finance Committee is all done.

Before we go to break, I've got to ask you about the Democratic Party of Wisconsin.

Their annual convention is this weekend.

Folks will be thinking, well, it's an off year, right?

I mean, there's no more elections this year, so it's going to be a slow affair.

It most certainly will not because there's going to be a big election coming up this weekend.

Dan Shafer

There is going to be a big election coming up this weekend for to find out who will succeed Ben Wickler as the chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin.

Of course, you've had all of those candidates on the show here on Mornings with Pat Critello, Devin Remaker, Joseph Hecke, and...

Pat Kreitlow

William Garcia.

Dan Shafer

William Garcia.

Apologies to Mr. Garcia having a little bit of a brain fart this morning.

The coffee maybe hasn't kicked in yet.

But we're going to see that vote.

We're going to see that vote on Sunday morning, I believe.

The convention is Saturday and Sunday.

So we'll see all the speeches, including one from Georgia Senator Raphael Warnock, who is going to be the special guest speaker for the event.

And then we will, and there are a number of other offices that

that also have.

votes for them, you know, first, second vice chair on, you know, a number of other party officials, but the only one that has multiple candidates running for it is the chair position.

Like so, for example, Sarah Godluschi, Secretary of State is running for first vice chair.

She's facing no opposition for that.

So she almost certainly will be elected to serve in that position.

And so that will be, you know, an interesting component of this too.

But, you know, that chair vote also as well is

being held with ranked choice voting for the first time, that this was actually implemented in 2019.

One Wichler took over, but there have not been enough challengers to Wichler or an open seat to have ranked choice voting for this.

So I think that's gonna be an interesting element of this vote as well.

Oh, that that

Pat Kreitlow

was is going to be fascinating to break down those numbers.

You know, if it goes goes multiple ballots and see how the votes get allocated when the person that comes in third place is, you know, eliminated in the first round.

So.

That will be very interesting to see come Monday when all is said and done.

And of course, there will be some chatter at the convention about Governor Tony Evers as he's made clear repeatedly he's not going to make any decisions until after the budget is done.

But Dan, that's not going to stop delegates from talking.

I'm sure there will be multiple conversations about if this or that.

Dan Shafer

Well, look, part of what they're saying in this convention is that they are looking ahead to 2026 and the road to 2026 and the possibility of a democratic trifecta if they are able to flip the Senate and the Assembly.

But it's still an open question about who's going to be at the top of the ticket and what the race to become the nominee might look like.

And I think that should be a major conversation.

be outside of the convention, and you may be seeing something about that in the Reconvibulation area in the not-too-distant future.

Pat Kreitlow

The very not-too-distant future, and then, shortly after that, like four o'clock this afternoon, you'll be filling in for Megadon today, along with Angela Lange.

Dan Shafer

That's right, me and Angela and I think Matt Rothschild is going to be joining us for a little bit on the show as well.

But yeah, we'll be filling in from four to six PM this evening during drive time.

So make sure you tune to Civic Media.

on your drive home this evening to catch us.

Pat Kreitlow

Absolutely.

And of course, catch Dan's column, which he will be talking about, I'm sure this afternoon.

You know what?

I think all of us will be talking about it for sure.

Dan Schaefer from the Reconpopulation area is with us, and this is the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm Pac

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Rightwell.

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Pat Kreitlow

Tomorrow we'll have our homeroom segment.

We'll have Melissa Baldoff here with our climate check.

And in climate check, we're going to discuss how the US Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy, wants to weaken fuel economy standards and says the Biden-era rule is illegal.

It's illegal.

to try to not have your cars polluting the atmosphere.

I'm sure Melissa will have some things to say about that.

James Kelly, Melissa K, Earl Ingram, all that and more coming up tomorrow on the program.

For our final few minutes here, let's continue our visit with Dan Schaefer.

Talk about what's happening at the Democratic Convention, some of the other stories that are talking about in Wisconsin politics as well.

There's going to be a shindig.

Is it Madison on Thursday for the new and yet departing Chief Justice of the State Supreme Court?

Dan Shafer

Yes, that's right.

Coming up, there is a big event happening in Madison in regards to the State Supreme Court.

For Ann Walsh Bradley, yes.

Chief Justice Ann Walsh Bradley, who has been Chief Justice for, I don't know, just a couple of weeks, I think, something like that.

But yeah, I'm trying to pull up the details here, but they're having an event to honor Ann Walsh Bradley at the Capitol in Madison, I believe, Tony Evers and a number of other members of the...

State Supreme Court will be speaking for this as well.

So we're getting kind of close to the end of this two-year cycle for the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

And as Ann Walsh Bradley, kind of with this parting gift.

to a certain extent of having the opportunity to be Chief Justice for a short while and retire with that title.

Pat Kreitlow

Think of it as pregame for the Democratic Convention.

I know the Supreme Court is a nonpartisan event.

I also know which side of the aisle politicized it first, but it is going to be a CNB scene for Democrats and progressives everywhere to toast Chief Justice Ann Walsh Bradley before her retirement.

There's another story I want to ask you out of Milwaukee dealing with the possibility of red light cameras and I know that traffic accidents, crashes, hit and runs, fatalities have all been a

a hot topic for years in Milwaukee.

And so now you've got people hoping to see legislation that would install cameras that could automatically cite speeding drivers.

You know, no officer needed on duty.

Is that a relatively new idea?

And do you think it's going to have any legs?

Dan Shafer

Well, this it's not a new idea.

This has been introduced for cycle after cycle and it has had the backing of a number of Milwaukee leaders for quite some time And but you know, this is an issue I can I can kind of see both sides of when it comes to the the red light camera enforcement You know, I think some people might have some take some issues with that In a number of different ways, but the reckless driving problem in Milwaukee is is a

big problem.

We have, you know, I think the Mayor Cavalier Johnson has taken a number of steps to, you know, address some of the

certain things with building out different infrastructure, reconfiguring some of the way that different lanes are set up in different parts of the city.

But, you know, a lot of it relies on the state too, because there are a lot of state highways running through the city.

So there can be some confusion on how to address some of the most glaring problems, which can often be on state highways that are going through the city of Milwaukee.

But I think, you know, the people who are in support of this see this as just kind of a force multiplier.

because police in Milwaukee have a big job to do and traffic enforcement is only one part of it and it is incumbent upon some people to have a little bit more accountability for some of the people who are running red lights and speeding through intersections.

Racing down, you know, residential streets in the city, like this is a real problem.

So would it make a difference to have these these red light cameras or is it, you know, does this become, you know, kind of a civil liberties question to a certain extent, right?

Does this infringe upon, you know, not having an actual person.

Catch you speeding does that does that change the way this might be characterized?

So I think there there are a lot of questions involved with this but again, I think you know, we saw the mayor we saw State Representative or State Senator Dora Drake a number of other folks come forward in a press conference yesterday and for the fifth time Call for the state to take up this legislation

Pat Kreitlow

and a senator Dora Drake put it we can't

place police officers at every single intersection 24 hours a day, especially in what I would call the defund the police movement by the Wisconsin Republican legislature that has been, you know, underfunding municipalities for the longest time.

So

While there are due process concerns, there's also the death toll.

The Journal Sentinel article here says that in 2023, 77 people were killed in car crashes.

I had no idea.

Last year it was 67 deaths and so far this year 19 people have died in car crashes.

This is, if anybody goes, what are we trying to deal with?

That, we're doing 140, nearly 150 people killed in car crashes over the past two year period.

Dan Shafer

And it's a major like day-to-day quality of life issue here in Milwaukee.

Like, you know, when I go certain places, I will go out of my way to drive a longer route to avoid certain intersections or certain streets that I know are going to be problematic.

And, you know, there are a lot that the city is trying to do.

There are a lot that they are not addressing at all.

And they're just like basic common sense things.

that you come up to these intersections, come up to these streets that they could be doing differently, and that they are not.

But this is yet another thing that they have talked about to try and improve the quality of life for Milwaukeeans on a day-to-day basis, because the reckless driving here is absolutely out of control.

I usually will go to bat for Milwaukee on so many things, and y'all were mischaracterized on this and whatever.

The driving here is terrible.

It's terrible.

And so something has to be, has to be done one way or

Pat Kreitlow

another.

And obviously you want to look out for anything that might rig the system, but as somebody who, uh, in Arizona, two different times would open up an envelope like a week after I get home and there's a picture of me and there's a picture of the red light.

Like, yeah, I guess I'll be paying that ticket.

Dan Schaefer from the Recombobulation Area.

Thank you, Dan, very much.

Dan Shafer

Yeah.

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