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Good morning, it is 7.06.
It's a Monday morning, June 2nd, 2025.
Yeah, we flipped the page on the calendar.
If you missed it, welcome.
Happy June.
June Dairy Month, Pride Month, summer is here.
You can tell.
Because of all the smoke, Canada is on fire again.
So that fits into part of today's weather outlook as well.
Dr. Kristen Lierly is with us.
Selena Heller here as well.
Brittany Merleau a little bit under the weather here, but we do.
She's
under the weather.
That
was way more funny than that deserved to be.
But yes, sunny, breezy and hot was what she put down for us.
Mainly mid 80s, pushing 90 today.
with a south southwest wind at 10 to 20.
Increasing clouds and mild tonight.
A good chance of showers late in the northwestern half of the state.
Low to mid sixties tonight with a southwest wind around 10.
I don't know if anybody saw much for Northern Lights last night.
We were supposed to get some kind of a big Northern Lights show, but again, that that Canadian wildfire smoke.
I mean, it's it is really pronounced.
I mean, especially with that setting sun.
was such an easy to see big old round ball because the smoke was just so thick.
You could just tell we flew into, we flew in last night as soon as we got off the plane, we just, you could smell it, you know, in the air out there, Selena.
Yes, we were looking at that sun the other.
I said, Emery, don't quit looking.
And she's like, well, you can really see it because there's just this bright orange.
I'm like, well, just OK, stop looking at it.
That was last night.
Oh, orange.
I can't
stop
looking.
Yeah.
It does.
It does have kind of a Star Wars feel to it, like you're seeing the suns up in the sky there.
But yeah.
But that also, by the way, the serious note of that is if you or somebody you love has any respiratory issues,
It's not good out there.
Keep the windows closed.
Put the AC on and take care of yourself.
Good morning from Tigerton.
Rob writes smokey skies and 56 degrees.
I had three mowing jobs over the weekend.
I did my weekend volunteering job watering the flowers for Tigerton Main Street.
He says.
Tigerton is the smallest community on the Wisconsin Main Street program, which is really neat.
He says this week road work got underway along Highway 29 in Western Marathon County.
So, yeah, we appreciate all of the updates there on the road work.
There's a lot of it going on.
53 here up in Chippewa County.
A lot of work taking place up there.
And so everybody just, you know, use caution when you're out there on the roadways.
Selena oh wait Selena hold I'm gonna talk to you about what Senator Baldwin did in the Chippewa Valley here recently and you also did a story for our counterparts in Iowa from Courier Newsroom about a We were just talking about misinformation from Robert Kennedy Jr.
Well some of the information that they have to take in classes in Iowa are based on false information that Dr. Lierly knows all about so we're gonna talk to both Kristen and Selena about these things but first
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Let's start, Selene, if you don't mind with the story out of Iowa while we've got Kristen here.
The headline out of Iowa's starting line is, Iowa students will have to watch an inaccurate video thanks to Republican lawmakers
The the lead here that Selena writes a pregnancy education bill is awaiting Governor Kim Reynolds signature if signed it will require students in grades 5 to 12 to view a fetal development video as part of their human growth and development instruction.
And the law prohibits.
any educational material created by medical institutions like the Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, the University of Iowa Hospital and Clinics, and along with organizations like Planned Parenthood.
I
mean, that's just,
that's just, that's just for starters of what's all in this bilsenly.
So what, what is this about the, the inaccurate video that comes with this law?
So it doesn't name a specific video, but it's modeled after a video.
It's called Meet Baby Olivia, which was produced by an anti-abortion group.
So that's kind of where it stems from.
And this video is kind of out in a lot of places, but it misrepresents gestational age, makes false claims about viability and uses narration that kind of emotionally manipulates the viewers.
And so people say, you know, don't use the kids as kind of political pawns.
So that's the kind of whole idea.
So it could go into effect July 1st if it is signed.
So next school year.
How does that work out, Dr. Lairly, when students are watching development or human development videos that are not accurate?
This is already a law in North Dakota and I think Tennessee.
These are cartoons that show this very watered down perfect version.
It's a fantasy version of what life in the womb might be like.
There are no abruptions in there.
There are no amniotic bands.
There are no fibroids.
The placenta is normal.
It's so wrong and it's so inaccurate and the fact that they won't
allow real evidence and information from the University of Iowa.
That is your flagship university.
Let those people create your human growth and development video.
Don't use propaganda.
Again, propaganda from an outside group with an agenda intended to control and manipulate young people.
It is, again, Orwellian almost how the instruction refers to human development rather than fetal development.
It's called a womb instead of a uterus.
There is a high quality rendering animation or image that depicts the humanity of the unborn child.
In other words, again,
not looking like a real medical condition, but like you said, cartoonish is essentially what this is.
Fetuses aren't little humans that are, they're different, they're evolving, they're growing, and lots of things happen inside the womb, inside the uterus that are not represented here.
So this is fictional.
It is inaccurate and people based their health care decisions on this kind of information.
It's wrong.
This is wrong.
Selena you quote Maisie still well director of public affairs for Planned Parenthood advocates of Iowa that calls it despicable and shameless.
Our students deserve to be taught curriculum that is bound in facts so that they're equipped with the necessary tools to make informed decisions about their lives and their futures.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
And they even kind of some things went to doctors and said, you know, specifically, what is wrong with this?
And so they even have that information just specifically, what is wrong about this?
And still, still it has proceeded.
So
they don't
actually care because I don't know if you heard what Joni Ernst said over the weekend, but we're all going to die.
Yes, what is happening
in
Iowa?
with these women who are leaders, their governor, their US senator, who are just completely discounting the lives of Iowans, selling them this bill of goods that is based in fantasy, not facts, and not at all providing for the health and wellbeing of Iowans.
And when the physicians and regular people try to push back, they're completely sidelined.
I just don't get it.
They're honestly people who deserve to be run out of office.
I mean, there should be such an outcry that essentially demands their resignation for such inaccuracies and for literally politicizing healthcare.
And that's how you get to decisions like kicking people off of Medicaid.
How you get people like, again, Congressman Derek Van Orden.
Saying the other day that, you know, people are lying if they say that people are gonna have their Medicaid benefits cut.
Let's again make clear Congressman Van Orden and everybody else, you show us all of the fraud and abuse.
Don't just say it.
Don't just say there's fraud and abuse.
Don't just say that there's undocumented immigrants.
Get it.
Prove it.
Doge cuts.
Again, prove it.
Prove it.
Waste fraud and abuse are illegal.
Fraud is illegal.
Show me the charges.
And then we'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
But right now, this is all propaganda.
This is all lies.
And it's all going to be called out so that folks next year and in every election beyond, look past the political ads and the talking points and deal with who's dealing with fact and who is dealing with fiction.
And that's what we have to put up with here, Selena.
So I was in Iowa on Monday and I shot a story in Iowa and talking about waste, fraud, and abuse.
And that's kind of the key term from the state auditor in Iowa about the school voucher program because the state voucher program cannot be audited in the state of Iowa.
And so I was in Iowa in front of a private school talking about this and I was looking around and I thought, oh gosh, I hope I don't get in trouble here because I'm talking about this program that does not.
They made it so the auditor cannot audit voucher program and the eligibility now for this next school year to participate in the voucher program is lifted.
So anybody can get...
That's the next level that you're standing in front of a school trying to tell a story about how people are being duped and you're afraid to tell the story because you're going to get in trouble.
It's the lies.
It's the fear.
It's the division like enough already.
We've got to have the courage as people as humans to come together and stand up for what is right and what is true.
And I'm just going to say the lead part again because we made that transition from, you know, human growth and development to Medicaid to this.
the story that I was editing of your Selena on the drive home yesterday, that the voucher school program again in Iowa was specifically written so that the state auditor could not audit the use of tax dollars for the voucher program.
Why did they do that?
Because the state auditor is a Democrat, the only Democratic state official.
is the auditor.
The watchdog of taxpayer dollars and Republicans specifically wrote the voucher law so that millions upon millions upon millions of tax dollars could go there for teachers.
How did you put it?
They could use it for like a vacation.
They could send a teacher to Paris for leather
furniture.
He said they could
put
in the teacher's lounge.
Nobody knows.
Nobody knows because the state auditor isn't allowed to audit it.
That's where we are.
Again,
This should be, if this went the other way, I mean there would be torches and pitchforks out there.
If Democrats wrote a law like this that the one Republican auditor couldn't audit it.
This is where we are at this point and it needs to be called out relentlessly and that's why your hearing us be so relentless about it.
On the other side of the break, Selena Heller's back with us on many of these civic media radio network stations to talk about Senator Tammy Baldwin and a recent event and a local dairy farmer advocating speaking out for yourself in this day and age.
You got to in this day and age the way things are going.
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Are you kidding me with the Milwaukee Brewers here?
Seven games in a row and sweeping the Philadelphia Phillies in Philadelphia.
Did you see the score on Saturday?
Yes, I did.
It was a lot of fun.
It was a lot of
points.
Oh, my goodness.
It was that kind of a weekend.
There were some big lopsided wins throughout the weekend in baseball.
And I just want to make, yep, 17 to 7.
17 to 7.
It's a football score.
Packers over the Eagles on Saturday.
But it was the Brewers instead.
And so after sweeping three in Philly, they are now on their way to Cincinnati.
Coverage begins this evening at 535 across stations on the Civic Media radio network for three against Cincinnati.
And then the Brewers are back home Thursdays and off day.
And let's see what begins next is a 10 game.
home stands starting with San Diego.
They'll be playing the Padres Friday and Saturday evenings and then Sunday afternoon, followed by three against Atlanta, followed by four against the St.
Louis Cardinals coming to American Family Field.
So...
I think, I'm gonna say it this way, because I said last week, oh, they're going to Philadelphia.
I don't know, it's gonna be tough.
And then they sweep the Phillies.
So.
And Philly.
Yeah, so I'm gonna say, oh gosh, Brewers, I don't know, three in Cincinnati.
That's, we'll see.
So there you go.
The onus is on you guys now.
Selena, Senator Tammy Baldwin came to the Chippewa Valley the other day, appeared at a local farm to talk about the budget that has been passed out of the house, is sitting in the Senate where it's no doubt going to get modified in some way, shape, or form.
maybe in big ways, depending on how some of these votes come down.
What did Senator Baldwin have to say about that?
Yeah, she said they reconvene today, so that starts back up and it'll get.
Changed around a lot.
She said, you know, some of her colleagues have differing opinions.
And so this is Senator Baldwin at the Peck family farm in Chippewa Falls, where we we took a tour of the whole entire farm and the barns and I saw the call the cows and just talked to Jeff Peck and we'll hear from him in a second.
But we got to talk a lot to farmers about what was going on.
But she talks about the the farm bill here.
All right, here's Tam or not
the farm bill, the budget bill.
Here's Senator Baldwin.
I think it has a tough road ahead of it.
I will tell you that I have some of my Republican colleagues who are going to join Democrats in opposing it because they think that the cuts to the most vulnerable are too steep and will hurt their constituents in their largely rural states.
And then I have other Republican colleagues who have announced that the cuts don't go far enough.
that they won't pass a tax measure unless it's fully paid for.
And so right now there's more nose in the Senate than there are yeses.
But what sort of changes we might make and send it back to the House, or whether we reject it in its entirety and say let's start over, it remains to be seen.
So there's Senator Baldwin talking about a bill that its future is uncertain because once again, inside Republican caucuses, first the House and now the Senate, they can't agree amongst themselves, Selena, that the bill cuts too much or it cuts too little.
Yeah, and things like, you know, the SNAP program, Medicaid, of course, all of those things.
At the same time, there's so many things going on with agriculture.
So after we toured the farm, we talked to Tammy.
And when I think of farmers, my dad, I grew up on a farm, and they're kind of a quiet bunch.
Sometimes my dad had really strong opinions, but they tend not to be too outspoken in front of everybody.
So Jeff Tech.
the farm there was kind of advocating for farmers and everybody kind of who has thoughts about anything.
Here's Chef Beck.
A lot of people don't feel like they should be the voice of their business or of agriculture and it really is.
I just met with United States Senator Tammy Baldwin and we just had a conversation.
she was just a normal person she was happy to just walk around the farm and we were in my shop we were with my calves we were outside my parlor we were looking at my feed piles just everyday conversation so people can do it they can speak up for themselves and it's one of those things if you're not at the table then you're on the menu and so those people that just don't think it's for them don't be afraid of the microphone
And to that end, again, Senator Baldwin being on the farm there, Kristen, contrast that with what Senator Ron Johnson had to say the other day in Milwaukee about he's not aware of any poor people who ever created a job.
Let's start with farmers who aren't well to do and who create jobs.
Let's just start there.
That's the foundation of our economy here in Wisconsin is agriculture is farmers who create jobs So I don't know what senator Johnson is saying, but I do have to say there is one place where I agree with senator Johnson And that is I'm very concerned about this budget and how it increases the deficit Because the more we increase the deficit and we fail to meet our obligations the more we undermine the economic stability of the entire country Not just right now, but well into the future
And so for those folks who are like, oh yeah, suddenly the liberals are concerned about the debt and the deficit.
That's always been there.
You can take care of that with a tax system that is fair, that does not let billionaires pay a lower tax rate than a farmer.
This is a reverse Robin Hood situation.
We are literally taking from the poor and giving to the rich.
And then we're selling back to the poor this propaganda, these baby Olivia videos, these ridiculous statements that are coming out of politicians mouths about not cutting snap and not cutting Medicaid.
It's lies.
It's propaganda.
It's hurting us now and it's going to hurt us a lot down the road.
Along the way, we're gonna be talking to Jimmy Koska.
We're gonna get into name, image, and licensing, and other things in sports coming up.
But first, we send Dr. Kristen Lylee on her way.
Catch your show weekends over in Oshkosh in Green Bay and on the Civic Media website.
And Selena Heller reports for us at UpNorth News.
Head over to UpNorthNewsWI.com.
Selena, Kristen, thank you as always for starting the week so nice for us.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Happy
June.
Happy June, everybody.
All right, so again, Jimmy Koska on the way.
We'll be talking a little bit of sports.
and image licensing and he might have a thing or two to say about the brewers and this is crazy.
Seven game winch sweeping the fields.
This is outstanding.
Let's keep this up.
Jimmy's up next.
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We want to talk now a bit about what's happening in high school sports.
And we'll get into some other areas as well, but especially this whole notion of NIL deals, name, image license deals.
And for that, we bring in Civic Media's own sports director, Jimmy Koska.
Jimmy, good morning.
How are you?
Good morning, Pat.
Great to be here.
I always love being on a show called Up North because that's home for me from the from the Chippewa Valley, born and raised.
So I always appreciate coming on this program specifically.
Well, we love having you Up North.
So thank you very much for doing that.
Let's see, ahead of name image license, let's just talk about high school sports overall in Wisconsin.
It is June 2nd.
Where are we in terms of spring sports?
Are they are they wrapping up?
Have they wrapped up?
We are into really the tail end of the season.
The high school sports season has three weeks to go in the spring.
So this week, I think that the crown jewel of spring sports, in my opinion, is much like in winter, how it's individual wrestling in terms of just the sheer number of schools represented.
State track is this week.
So many schools can get individuals or relays into the state track event at UW La Crosse, which is a wonderful, wonderful venue for any sporting event, but particularly state track where they've hosted this for a number of years.
And you get to go and you get to see over 200 school communities represented in this event.
To me, it's one of those uniquely cool things about high school sports in Wisconsin.
I really enjoy covering these events.
We still have softball.
We still have baseball.
We have soccer, there's golf, there's tennis.
There's still a lot of other state events going on, but state track is so awesome to just be able to see all the schools.
You know, baseball and soccer, all these other events, they've got great facilities and great events too.
So regardless, the next three weeks are going to be pretty fun for high school sports in Wisconsin.
It's rather infectious to hear you talk about it.
It's just all the participation and again, it's a wide net.
It's not like just a handful of powerhouse teams.
You know, there's something for everybody in there.
Exactly, you know, and even a community like the one I live in, you know small towns are
getting, you know, we, I think just here in the town I live in, I think we have six athletes going, um, you know, but so many towns, maybe it's just one, you have one person who's doing really well in the high jump or something and they go to state, you can still get an entire community rally around just a handful of student athletes.
And I just think that's a really cool feature to whether it's wrestling, whether it's track or any individual sport that gets to go to state.
Uh, it is a really, really neat experience to see, you know, a whole town, uh, you know, come out for, for maybe just a handful.
kids.
It's awesome.
That's great and let's see Tony mentions up on YouTube here.
He says track meets are fun.
He also says back in 1902, Pat won the 125 weight class in wrestling.
Everyone forgets about that.
1902 probably was the last time I weighed 125 pounds now that I think about it here.
Jimmy, let's turn then to the the policies that surround high school sports and these NIL deals, name, image licensing, which is that just a
a fancy way of saying endorsement deals?
So in Wisconsin, name, image and likeness was part of a package of four policies that were put in the WIA constitution for this year.
I think it's the one getting the most attention because of how it's affected college sports, right?
In college, it is really turned things on its head to the point where, you know, even in the last couple of weeks, we've seen lawsuits and legislation and.
all kinds of things come out about name, image, likeness, you know, equality between and inequality really between the power programs and the other programs.
There's a lot of things happening in college sports as a result of name, image, and likeness that I think for a lot of people, especially people who are a little more traditionalist in the sense of amateur athletics.
are not too happy about where things have gone and how it's really upended conference alignments and things like that.
But here's the good news for those of you who are following high school sports and wondering, is name image likeness going to affect high school sports the same way it has college?
And the short answer is no.
And I'm saying that because, first of all, Wisconsin was one of the last states to even get NIL.
I think there's only
maybe seven or eight states left that don't have it.
And the fact that we got it done through our state association and our school membership, that's a big win for us because in places where this hasn't gone in yet, it's been left up to state legislatures and having politics at that level involved in high school athletics can really be a negative because then there's no control over the school memberships and state associations to deal with the issues that they have in front of them.
In high school NIL,
things are much more restrictive than they are in college NIL.
So you're not going to see the average student athlete in high school, you know, getting a car, a car dealership endorsement and rolling around in a, you know, $80,000 car or anything like that.
You're just not going to see that happen at large.
You know, maybe it happens for a couple of kids, which is great for them, but it's not happening for, for every kid in the state.
There's a lot of guardrails to how it's done in Wisconsin, Pat.
And I think that is, is one of the reasons why it passed this time after failing a year ago.
What
is the, what would a typical NIL deal look like?
Not necessarily for the star of the football team, but you know, maybe there's somebody else.
Are they essentially just now doing endorsements for a local sporting goods store or something like that?
One of the reasons why in Wisconsin I don't see this affecting nearly as much as
you know, as it has in college is that the guardrails, the WIAA membership put in place are going to really restrict you can do this.
So there's two different.
big restrictions on this in addition to not being able to represent your school, your conference, the WIAA in any kind of NIL deal.
So you can't just put on your jersey and go say, hey, I'm the quarterback for XYZ High School.
You can't do that.
But there are two really big restrictions on where the money comes from.
And one of those restrictions is on the who can do that.
And that is that if your
a coach, if you're a staff member, if you're a parent of another student athlete in a school, it sounds really obvious, but you're not allowed to.
contribute to NIL deals.
If you're a coach or a former coach of a student athlete or a program in that school, you can't act as an agent.
High school student athletes can't sign agents and find deals that way.
But the other one, and I think this is the big one, is that if you're a business organization, you're an employee at these places that has contributed to maybe a school's booster fund, you've donated to a school program before, anything like that, any kind of contribution.
And you know, Pat, in small towns, how businesses show up to support.
their student athletes in their communities, you know how they support those things.
Those businesses, organizations, and the employees of those places, they are not allowed to contribute to NIL deals.
So it really restricts the pool of potential name, image, and likeness endorsements.
It's really limited to people that have never contributed.
to a school program before.
And again, when you're talking about a lot of places in Wisconsin, whether it's a college town, whether it's a small farm town, pretty much every business has had a hand in something, whether it's donating 100 bucks to put up a scoreboard or support the annual fundraiser for each
team.
with all those restrictions, I feel like I have to come back to my root question, which is, so what would an ideal NIL deal look like?
If all the usual suspects can't be part of it, if you can't wear your team's uniform or in any other way, I mean, now you're left with the high school volleyball player just in jeans and a t-shirt doing a deal for somebody that's never done a deal with their local high school teams before.
Does that almost sound too restrictive?
Like what kind of an NIL deal do you even get out of something like that?
There's a couple of things.
One is that you can use it to promote maybe an event you're part of in town, like if there's a local event or something.
As long as you're not promoting something that's
for lack of for without listing 50 things adult oriented so you can't be endorsing like alcohol right as a high school student athlete things like that you know events like that you put your name on a something that doesn't you know touch any of those areas that's that's probably fine you know there's a whole list of rules and regulations for a big FAQ on it the other one is I think the big one is that there's going to be
it's gonna sound like a big word, but NIL collective.
So these are gonna be groups of, and the WIA has an official one for this, where they do grow out and find certain deals for student athletes to endorse and help build their brand in marketing.
So there are going to be pools of organizations and businesses that will get to do this.
And then obviously, the businesses that aren't already supporting
um high school athletics or high school programs in a general like those will be once you an NIL deal would
I think it would look like a normal endorsement deal.
I mean, there's only been, I think, two reported contracts so far.
And one of them was literally just endorsing certain events held in their town.
So I think that's where it's gonna probably look like.
It's not gonna look like these big mega deals where a student athlete on a college roster is worth, you know, $4.6 million in endorsements or whatever.
It's just not gonna be that way for high school kids because there's a lot more high school student athletes and there's a lot more communities and there's not quite that big well of.
financial support to draw
from?
I'm looking at this New York Times headline from last week.
Can this 14-year-old football star become a high school millionaire?
And the story begins.
Brittany Coleman's son, Kayden, had just turned 10 when youth football coaches started pressing envelopes with thousands of dollars into her hand.
They wanted Kayden to play for their club team in Maryland or New Jersey or other states, and she always refused because those payments aren't allowed.
But now, because of new NIL deals, students as young as
middle school could go on.
This is though so the exception rather than what NIL deals are going to look like you're saying.
Yeah, and it's going to really affect a very small handful of high school student athletes in Wisconsin.
And we've seen it because, like I said, Wisconsin is one of the last states to get NIL.
It's that way in a lot of the other states.
There are very few states where it's wide open NIL.
I think it's like two or three, even those after they started.
They were kind of the first ones in it.
Even after they started, they really started restricting it, much like Wisconsin has.
Wisconsin isn't even the most restrictive, according to the people who are putting together the policy discussion.
It is pretty restrictive, but you're just not going to see that.
And to that point, it's specifically banned that if you're trying to recruit a student athlete or keep them at a school, whether you're moving or keeping them, if you're recruiting a student athlete that's banned.
And by banned, it just means that that student athlete risks becoming ineligible if they do accept those kind of deals for that
reason.
I'll tell you.
I'll tell you what though, you mentioned the one word in all of that that scares me and that's the legislature.
If the legislature, now if they know they could, they could have this to start with, Lord only knows how they could interfere one way or another and make things even worse here.
Jimmy Costco's with us and we'll talk about that Brewers Seven Game Winstry sweeping the fells in Philadelphia.
It's a break up the Brewers.
That's it.
I mean, World Series Inevitable, right?
Okay, no, they got the rest of the season to play.
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We're talking to Civic Media Sports Director Jimmy Koska about, well, first we were talking name, image licensing deals.
Now we're getting into the usual weekend sports, which we will be doing at this time every week now on Monday mornings, looking back at the weekend and
Jimmy sweeping the fills.
I mean, I that was not on my bingo card for this weekend at all
No, the Brewers are, they have their longest win streak in two years.
They knocked down what was the first place team in the National League, and much more importantly for the Brewers looking in their own house, they're now just a game and a half out in the wild card.
And they set up an absolutely vital series with the Reds now that starts today.
This was needed, as unexpected as it was, it was needed to get the Brewers at least a few games above 500 and really get them back into kind of the playoff, because now being a game and a half out of the wild card, everything
on the table now for Milwaukee going forward.
Well and it was again when the weekend started they were at a four game win streak that I said got them back to 500 because they'd been you know bobbing along that whole time thinking well 500 is not really going to get it done here and so yes you're right they give themselves this nice cushion they head into the series with Cincinnati
And then they don't have division of games again until almost a week later, Thursday of next week, a four game series against the Cardinals.
So, I mean, they can really do themselves a lot of good tonight, tomorrow and Wednesday afternoon.
Yeah, the Reds are the team right behind them in the standings for the wild card and then with St.
Louis coming up, that's a team they're chasing in the wild card.
So, for Milwaukee, this is a really vital stretch of the year.
I know it's June and it's tough to...
talk about how this impacts playoff positioning and stuff, because there's a lot of season to go.
But you can certainly play your way out of contention by this point.
And really, if the brewers are right there, they're within a game or two of a playoff spot, it's going to change what they do next month when they get close to the trade deadline, too.
Because you're thinking for a bit, they're following me fine 500.
They're a few games out of it.
You're thinking, what are they going to trade off and bring in with their farm system doing as well as it has been the last few years?
What are they going to do strategically long term?
But you're starting to see it turn a little bit.
The offense found some life, the 17 runs on Saturday.
Man, that was pretty awesome, wasn't it?
So yeah, Milwaukee's certainly finding some pieces right now.
Yeah.
And the thing of it is, again, for a small market team, you can't catch a break.
The day that we score 17 runs is the same day that the Dodgers put up 18 runs on the Yankees or something like that over the weekend.
Yeah.
The way it's done, it's a little piecemeal when you're a small market team.
But yeah, for sure, it's good to see when these things happen.
And obviously, having this win streak at this time, it's coming at a great time.
Because you're turning the page to June.
You're a third of the way through the season.
And now you're back in contention.
It's all good things.
And Tony asking on YouTube, will they sell, buy, or hold steady at the deadline?
Which, until you brought it up two minutes ago, I wasn't even thinking about the trade deadline.
And yeah, this makes a big difference.
It really does because now you're in contention, so you're not selling at this point because you're a game and a half out of a playoff spot.
That's nothing.
I mean, that's over the course of the next few months.
anything can really happen with that, right?
So I don't, there's no selling at this point.
Now buying is a little different because the brewers have moved a lot of their top prospects up to the major leagues, especially their pitching prospects.
So I don't know how much you can acquire at this point based on all the prospects that are now sort of major league ready or already in the major leagues.
That's, that's a little bit different for them because in the past years they've had such a deep farm system, may be able to move around a little bit.
And there's also the fact that their payroll is pretty light.
So, you know, they're not going to probably break the bank.
to make any kind of big blockbuster trade this year to become playoff contender, like true playoff contenders where they're a lock for it.
I think you're probably closer to hold steady, right?
Because you're in contention, but there's not a lot of moves to be made.
I think every team they could use pitching, right?
I think that's true.
But the Brewers, weirdly, this year, too, could also use a little bat, a little bit in the way of hitting.
So it remains to be seen.
But at least we don't see them as sellers, right?
because they're so close.
No, no one.
And starting to pick up some steam with the whole runners and scoring position where the bats had been strangely silent as of late.
Now, Christian Yelich got hit on the hand by a pitch in yesterday's game had to leave the game x-rays were negative.
So everything's day to day with this guy, right?
Yeah, and for him, it's been really nice to see here in the early part of the year where you have a lot of money invested in him and part of your lineup, part of your payroll.
There's a lot invested in him.
So as he goes, it really helps with what they're trying to do with Milwaukee and all the things that they're doing just as an organization, right?
Being one of just a handful of guys with 10 home runs and 10 steals to start the year, he's been a big part of the Brewers' early success.
So losing him for any extended period of time would hurt him.
And more than you'd think, even though he struggled the last couple of years a bit, he's having a good year this year, objectively.
Again, over 10 home runs and over 10 steals already, I think there's only.
It's right around a dozen guys who could say that in the first two months.
So he's been a big part of things.
And then finally, the NHL NBA seasons are in their final stages, the finals beginning for the NBA.
On Thursday, it's the Indiana Pacers against the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Network executives everywhere going, well, there's my worst nightmare.
But
that's what I was going to say.
Two small market teams.
But while you look at the superstars, you've got Oshkosh and Tyrese Halliburton, and then you've got
You've got SGA for Oklahoma City.
I think it's a fascinating series.
It should be a lot of fun to watch.
And in the NHL, you of course have the Edmonton Oilers representing Canada and pretty much all the rest of the U.S.
that doesn't want to root for Florida against the Florida Panthers in a rematch of last year's Stanley Cup.
Yep, and this year, like every year in hockey, it's who survives the playoff gauntlet.
Stanley Cup is so much fun to watch.
Two teams that are pretty evenly matched had pretty similar goal differentials during the year.
I think both finals set up really well.
It should be a lot of good entertainment if you're following those finals in both sports.
Jimmy Koska, thank you so much as always.
We'll see you next Monday.
Talk to you next Monday, Pat.
All right.
Thank you, sir.
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