Stand Up And Speak Out (Hour 1)

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Stand Up And Speak Out (Hour 1)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Fri May 16, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Greg Bach

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Chad Holmes

Good morning.

It is 606 here on Friday morning May the 16th of 2025.

I am Chad Holm, sitting in for Pat Crite Low today on mornings.

Great to be back last Friday and here this Friday.

Pat I think has one more day off after this on Monday, then he'll be back on Tuesday.

He has been off in Portugal and seen some of the social media postings that he has been putting out.

So it looks like he's been having a wonderful time, but I'm sure everybody is ready for Pat Crite Low to return to the program.

But today we got a pretty nice lineup for you coming up a little bit later.

on in this hour at 6.34.

I'll be talking to a Marathon County Democratic Party Chair, Nancy Stencil.

I get a chance to talk to Nancy every other week about what's going on in the world of politics, locally, statewide, even nationally.

So we'll talk to Nancy Stencil coming up at 6.34.

Then in the second hour of the program, gonna be talking about an event that's coming up here in Wausau a week from tomorrow.

Next Saturday,

the 24th of May.

It'll be held here in downtown Wausau about a block away from our studios here at 98.9 WXCO at the 400 block.

It's called Wausau Unites in Love, remembering George Floyd.

I'm going to talk a little bit more about this during the course of the program, but also we're going to talk to one of the organizers of this event, Latanya Campbell.

And again, it's a very interesting event, but it's in the title talks about uniting.

There's been a few folks who are not uniting.

And I think that.

It's worth some further discussion as well, but we'll talk to Latanya Campbell coming up at 734 about that event, which is five years ago.

We're coming up on the fifth anniversary of the murder of George Floyd.

So again, I think it'll be a very interesting discussion.

We'll also be joined just after the top of the hour at seven and eight o'clock by our meteorologist.

We'll be talking to Brittany Merleau.

as yesterday boy it was a very active weather day in fact here in central wisconsin in marathon county i was doing some wall-to-wall coverage late yesterday afternoon into the evening and there was at least a half a dozen separate tornado warnings either in marathon county or in the county's uh

bordering on Marathon County plus there were severe thunderstorm warnings and more so we're gonna get a recap on any potential damage that occurred throughout the state of Wisconsin with these storms that came through yesterday and also look ahead towards the weekend in terms of plans if you have outdoor plans coming up this weekend and then

Finally at 834 we'll be joined by our civic media sports reporter, Mike Clemens.

Talk about everything going on.

Packers have been having some offseason camps.

Of course, there's been those rumbles about Giannis and maybe being open to a move.

The brewers are just going sort of up and down.

They're hanging around the 500 mark a little bit under 500.

We'll talk about that as well.

So head into the weekend sports wise with Mike Clemens coming up at 834 this morning.

And of course, we are joined by Greg Bach.

Greg, great to be back with you.

Greg Bach

Great to be with you, Chad.

How are you doing this morning?

I

Chad Holmes

got to share a little story here, just in the last 10 to 15 minutes, actually, because I'm coming into work.

And normally at this hour, I am not a morning person.

I don't

Greg Bach

really know, honestly, and this is not, I don't know what you are, Chad, in the sense of you are

Working all the time, up late with stuff early in the morning.

I feel like you are a, like you're a night owl with morning bird tendencies.

Chad Holmes

I do find that I'm falling asleep a lot earlier because as I said yesterday, actually yesterday, I had a ball game and they actually moved it up because of the weather coming in very wise indeed.

They had a five o'clock game.

They moved it up to two o'clock.

So I did that game.

And then when I got back, all of a sudden the weather starts to roll in and we're on the air.

I'm passing along all the information and then by the time I get done with that I Kind of just lay around and then I fell asleep probably as early as I have in a very very long time It actually worked out because obviously I have to get ready to come in here this morning But even though I did get the bed early

It was weird because I wake up to my radio, and of course it's on 98.9 WXCO because I got to make sure we're on the air when I wake up every morning.

And there's a rerun of Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the air.

And for whatever reason, I think it was with sleep patterns, you know it.

Sometimes it's real easy to wake up and other times you're caught in the middle of a deep sleep.

So I I wake up actually it was a little later than I thought it would be because I just I kind of it felt like I was having a dream that involved nightlight with Pete Schwabba, but no I was I was listening to it.

All of a sudden I get up and I start getting ready I get my take my shower and I'm running around a little bit more than I really wanted to.

So then I'm driving in to work and I get here to downtown Wausau.

And there's an intersection, a couple, like a minute away from where we are.

And this goes across into the parking ramp where I park every morning.

And I get there, and there's a car right in front at the stop light.

It has a Texas license plate.

And we're sitting there.

And there's nobody else around.

And all of a sudden, it's like a minute goes by.

Another minute goes by.

And I think we're about to the third minute.

I think what's going on here?

Yeah, and I noticed he's a little bit further back and I think this is one of those lights with sensors overnight.

Greg Bach

Yeah,

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that's and and this guy is not moving and I'm kind of No, moving my arms a little bit.

I'm thinking move up a little bit move up a little bit And I'm I'm the I gotta get to work Greg Bach is waiting for me to get to work I'm gonna be late for work when I'm substituting for the great Pat Crite law and then finally and there's nobody

Nobody in this intersection.

Yeah, I'm saying I I'm going around the guy.

I'm just gonna whoa I Took the law into my own hands because I'm at the point where I think in We're not gonna ever move this guy is not moving I think it's a little common sense there that if that light where there's nobody around

I mean, I don't know how long that guy was there before I got there, but I mean, it's literally three minutes I'm sitting here and I'm thinking this is this is ridiculous So I went around and by the time I got this past his vehicle the light changes because that guy needed to move up about six inches

I'm sorry.

I went through it.

There was nobody around.

Okay.

I know it's probably, I did take the law into my own hands.

I admit it's probably wrong, but I have to get the work.

Well, I will.

Was I wrong in that, Greg?

I think you were, well,

Greg Bach

if, if

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you're

Greg Bach

okay, let's, let's put, I'll put it this way.

If your car assisted in making that light turn green so you could legally turn, I think you were fine.

Uh, I would say had you just blasted past and because that was what I was going to ask

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you is that I slowly went by I made sure everything was clear.

I mean, but it was I have no doubt.

I don't think it was coincidence that once I got past that line with there's a line obviously there that you're supposed to stop at.

He was behind this line.

And it was like, I'm thinking you're not, you got to get there or else the lights never going to change.

And once I got past that line, the light changed.

And by the time actually I got to the intersection, it was already, uh, it was yellow on the other side.

We were so red.

So, so I know I'm, I'm getting very, very nitpicky there.

So I'm not saying that I went through a green light.

I still went through a red light.

Fortunately.

See now

Greg Bach

that's where, okay.

So it was red.

So, okay.

Cause that's what I was going to ask you.

That's what I was going

Chad Holmes

to

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ask you.

That was, I was going to ask you.

I was going to

Chad Holmes

ask

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you,

Chad Holmes

but

Greg Bach

I suppose I was going to ask you, have you ever been at an intersection by yourself, like either early in the morning or late at night and it's red and you just.

You're like, you know what, I'm going.

Chad Holmes

Again, the only time I've ever done it, and I actually did it in that very same

Greg Bach

light.

Chad Holmes

for some reason it look it was like it was not working.

Yeah, because I'm used to it because every day I come here and I go I always stop at that light.

I mean, it's always there.

And one day it was and it's like a it's like a multi it's a kind of a weird kind of intersection.

It's like, well, it's not a normal intersection.

There's like an extra road in there.

Yeah.

And it has this rotation of these like three different

Directions that people go and usually I know exactly Every day I kind of I'm kind of inching forward because I know that my light is next But it would came in the rotation was off.

It was like it was going to the other two and it was not going there and it was it was literally six seven minutes and It was another situation where I decided to take things into my own hands because again It was like I got to get the work

Greg Bach

Chad Holmes take charge man.

Chad Holmes

No, no, no, but it was like but

I was going to say normally when we come in here and you start things up, I'm sort of getting into it.

You know, it's like I'm still like half asleep.

I will say that that situation in itself.

got me going here this morning.

I feel alive now.

Greg Bach

So does that mean we might see spicy chats?

Chad Holmes

We may well, we may well, but I mean, it was like a case where I'm starting to get really annoyed there because again, it was not a situation where it's like, oh, I got all day to get there.

I'm thinking, I gotta get there now.

Greg's waiting for me.

I mean, he's gonna be, he's gonna be wondering where the heck I am.

Did he remember that he's on today?

It's like, no, no, I have to get there.

But it's like, oh, I'm thinking of, I was,

Begging this guy.

Yeah, I mean, I almost got to the point where I put it in park and ask him to move up.

But I thought it's I don't need to do that.

The guy's got a Texas license plate.

I have no idea what this guy.

And as we

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as we know, you don't mess with Texas.

Chad Holmes

There you go.

And their cars, they're in.

But there's the point that by that was my thought though as well that maybe this for whatever I don't know how lights work in Texas.

I don't know if there's sensors at all in Texas.

But but I'm thinking.

just move up a little bit at least then my theory could be tested my theory being that he's not close enough to the intersection where the light sees that there's somebody there for it to turn I'm sure it was that but it was like it was really getting frustrating to me and I'm thinking are you gonna sit there literally all day long and wait for this light to change and then finally I had it I again it's it's before six in the morning there was literally nobody around yeah like it was

It was like, it was not a case where there was anybody going through these intersections.

I could see that, you know, everywhere that's coming.

But man, what a, what a kind of a way to start it.

Number one, I'm running late in the number two.

This light was never going to change.

Chad,

Greg Bach

Chad, you're here.

Chad Holmes

I

Greg Bach

am here.

You're here and you're safe and you're on the show and it's great.

So there we are.

That's the,

Chad Holmes

I will say it is a.

gorgeous morning.

Greg Bach

I walked in and the songbirds were, I mean, the song, like lots of them are singing.

It was fantastic.

And we got a little bit of storm yesterday, but it didn't last very long.

And before we knew it, it was gone.

And like, we had the, we had the thunderstorm morning tourney to watch, but just, yeah, it was here and gone.

done.

Chad Holmes

And I was wondering about that, because I know here, I mean, there's a very long line went right up to the UP border, and it went down beyond Steven's point down further into south central Wisconsin.

And it was really something and I actually saw some pictures.

I'm curious because Brittany Merleau loves to chase these storms.

I've heard some stories about it and I'm curious to find out what she was doing last night and what she's found out because I know she researches that stuff.

I actually saw a few pictures of Funnel Clouds, actual Funnel Clouds here in the Central Wisconsin area.

I have not really heard of any significant damage at this point, but I'm sure Brittany will have that information.

But it was, and even yesterday during the afternoon when I was doing this game, the wind was amazing.

I mean, it was so windy.

You could just feel these storms coming in and you were talking around.

at the ballpark and it's like, yeah, it's coming.

It's going to be something really big.

And it really was.

I can't remember a time where I've been on the air.

And something I'll maybe touch on later on as well, maybe with Brittany, there was been talk about how the National Weather Service being privatized.

It's amazing how I used them last night.

I was on the air for about 90 minutes straight because we have a policy here.

We've done it at XTO where if there is a tornado warning, you go wall to wall.

So people can tune in and make sure we're giving

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the

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information that you need.

And without the National Weather Service, I mean, I was so wonderful for me.

I made, I got about 18 different windows up to keep it, all these different storms.

But man, you cannot have the National Weather Service go privatize or go away.

It has to be out there for everybody.

Agreed.

Agreed.

I am Chad Holmes sitting in today for Pat Krightlow, who's off.

in Europe, often Portugal, along with Brakeback.

We're going to come back.

I got an interesting story.

We've heard about the Transports.

We're going to talk about that coming up next here on Stevia.

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started.

22 here on this Friday morning.

Hopefully everything off to a wonderful start wherever you may be.

I am Chad Holmes.

I am in North Central Wisconsin.

Live from our downtown Wausau Studios of 98.9 WXCO.

Looking out with a lot of road construction.

I mean the roads are completely tore up around here.

In fact during much of the day

You'll be able to hear if I was on the air right now with some of the construction You could actually hear the construction and our building shakes from time to time So a quiet start the workers are just getting underway outside But hopefully again, it's a beautiful morning where you are right now.

I look outside Lots of blue skies.

The Sun is rising and hopefully it'll be a wonderful day and Greg

Sometimes when we have some of these what call hot-button issues it can make you mad it could be negative I came across really I think a heartwarming story a story that says a lot about

some young people and And I'm very fortunate I get a chance to be around a lot of young people with my cover to high school sports and I I get a little annoyed when people talk about well, they're not what they used to be or you know These are terrific young people and I came across a story out of the state of Maine and of course we've heard a lot about trans athletes and Way more than maybe the numbers really

should indicate that it should be in terms of the level of discussion in different areas of the country, in fact, all the country.

We've heard about it here in the state of Wisconsin, and we've heard about it nationally and really all over the country.

But I came across a story here that warms my heart, to be honest with you, and you know it takes a lot to warm my

heart.

Chad Holmes

We're not going to get spicy this early.

So I want to I want to be a heartwarming start here.

And it occurred in the state of Maine.

And there's a freshman track athlete in Maine named Annalise Feldman.

She is a freshman from Yarmouth High School in Maine.

And she sent a letter to the editor of her local newspaper because her local state representative

started talking about this race she was in where she finished second to a trans athlete and the state representative named Laurel Libby and I want to read this letter to the editor from Annalise Feldman this freshman again freshman in high school she wrote representative Laurel Libby Republican of Auburn

Recently used my second place finish in the 1600-meter run and that of my teammate in the 800-meter run to malign Soren Stark Chesa, the trans-identified athlete who finished first.

One of the reasons I chose to run cross-country and track is the community.

Teammates cheering each other on, athletes from different schools coming together, and the fact that personal improvement is valued as much as, if not more than, the place we finish.

Last Friday, I ran the fastest 1600 meter race I have ever run in middle school or high school track and earned varsity status by my school standards.

I am extremely proud of the effort I put into the race and the time that I achieved.

The fact that someone else finished in front of me didn't diminish the happiness I felt after finishing that race.

I don't feel like first place was taken for me.

Instead, I feel like

A happy day was turned ugly by a bully who is using children to make political points.

We are all just kids trying to make our way through high school.

Participating in sports is the highlight of high school for some kids.

No one was harmed by Soren's participation in the girls' track being.

But we all are harmed by the hateful rhetoric of the bullies, like Representative Libby.

who want to take sports away from kids just because of who they are.

And that was Annalise Feldman, Freshman, Yarmouth High School.

And I gotta say, I get emotional reading that.

I mean, in this era where we see way too much just hatred and trying to score points through cutting down others.

I mean, as good as obviously a track athlete, this young lady is that that letter to the editor is as good as against.

Greg Bach

Well, and I think the other thing that's pointed out too is that she says.

That this state elected official was using her second place victory.

It's a victory.

She got second place.

That's great.

It's faster than I can run.

Personal best without.

without contacting her, without consulting her, without thinking about it, she said, well, what I'm going to do is I'm going to use this for my own personal platform, regardless of what this young lady feels for her achievement that day, or how it affects anybody.

And

She stood up and said, no, you don't get to use me.

I don't support you.

I don't support this.

And don't take my great day and make it seem like it's all of a sudden been nefariously stolen from me.

And that's what a lot of these people who want to rail against the less than 10 trans athletes in the NCAA do.

They find ways to use other people's achievements as the fodder for their.

Ridiculous

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arguments.

They try to make these young people victims of a crime.

That's how they make that's how they try to frame it.

That somehow they are the victim of a crime by this person.

Yeah.

And it's horrible.

Yeah.

We are all human beings.

And actually, when we talk later in the show about the the.

The rally that's coming up here in wasa.

That's one of the topics that we're gonna have that people are trying to point out.

Well, George Floyd was some sort of criminal like he then deserved to be killed.

Yeah,

Chad Holmes

I guess people are realizing that hey, we're all human beings.

Yeah,

Greg Bach

absolutely.

Absolutely couldn't

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agree more.

We all deserve this respect of being a human being and the way that some people are using human beings as these pawns in their

Games it's infuriating.

Yeah, we're gonna come back.

We're gonna have an information update If I'm not mistaken, we're gonna have the farm report, correct?

I think coming up and then we're gonna come back and talk to Nancy Stencil here on mornings with pack right law I am Chad Holmes on 98.9 wxco and the civic media radio network

Very happy to be sitting in today for Pat.

He'll be back next Tuesday, I believe.

So again, not too much longer till the return of Pat Crite Lowell.

And yesterday, I had an opportunity to speak to the chairperson of the Marathon County Democratic Party, Nancy Stencil, and started off by saying good morning, Nancy.

Hey, good morning.

Well, let's go right into it because there's a number of things I want to talk about here this morning.

Yeah.

And I was thinking kind of, you know,

big picture, because obviously you can get caught up in so many of the individual pieces of corruption and everything else

going on right now.

Chad Holmes

But as we look forward, and obviously you're somebody that has been part of campaigns, you've run in campaigns, you've helped run campaigns, as we look forward, I was thinking about back, and again, people don't even care about history anymore, but I was thinking back, I know, almost 50 years ago, in Post Watergate, a guy named Jimmy Carter, who was unknown,

At this point in the cycle, he had been

virtually unknown.

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But he was a guy that was able to say, I will not lie to you.

I will be truthful.

I will bring back a sense of ethics.

And I was thinking...

Compared to today Richard Nixon was a good government conservative

Something about but I'll think gosh we thought Nixon was bad, but yeah Jimmy Carter was I mean he was he just he he lived his values He showed you know how to be a good person.

I mean he continued to all the way up to the end

And I was going to ask,

Chad Holmes

yeah, but I was going to ask you as somebody, in your role as the chairperson of the party, as somebody that leads the Democrats in the 7th congressional district, do you think that as we move forward into 2026, as you'd start to get candidates for local races, for statewide races, that we are going to see maybe candidates that say, hey,

This ain't who we are.

We need to bring back good government.

Wisconsin has been known, I think, for generations until, I think, the Walker Revolution as a place of good government.

Do you think that it's possible that we could see a Jimmy Carter-like figure, whether locally, statewide, or even nationally, in the future?

I do.

I really do.

I think we're going to see, I don't know, things seem to have to get just so bad before they go back to the good.

But I think more and more people are seeing their fed up.

Look at how they're coming out in the streets for, for every rally and protest that's been out there.

And they want to see everybody taken care of.

And I wouldn't say it from one extreme to the next.

They just, they want to see just good government, somebody who cares.

Chad Holmes

And I was saying to you as we were sitting and waiting to come on the air about how we are seeing with the way that Trump and the Republicans are running government the idea that it's all the The safeties are being taken away

Kathryn Lake

all the all of

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these cuts whether it's in health care whether it's in

air traffic controllers, whether it's in regulations of the food industry.

I think that they're basically saying we don't need these people to oversee these different areas.

We are getting into a very dangerous area in that respect as well.

And it's going to double back on us.

For anybody who listened to Francesca Hong that was just on with Matt, childcare for one.

Like, you know, your CNAs that are taking care of the elderly, these are like extremely important positions.

And yet we treat them with the most disrespect.

Like it's really not a job.

And I think it's going to affect our economy going down the road.

You know, how are people going to work if they don't have to stay childcare?

They aren't going to work if they don't.

They're going to have to stay home, aren't they?

Exactly.

And just everything just seems right now like it's going to.

Whatever you can make a dollar at and and that's I think what Trump is largely it's he's in it for himself He's not in it for us.

Chad Holmes

What about this week because I The visuals and I said to you I got so upset when I saw him with the Saudi prince who

killed

Chad Holmes

Khashoggi I agree.

I mean you talk about where we have been and I and I will say

Republican presidents and Democratic presidents.

At least, you know, we had a line.

I think that was...

That you didn't cross.

That you didn't

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cross

no matter

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what your political beliefs

are.

He doesn't care.

He doesn't does whatever he wants.

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And he's there yucking it up with this guy, and he's going over there and basically trying to shake down these rich people for a personal gain.

And

then you're getting reports about, oh, and this just opens things up.

Like, suddenly, he appeared in the country is now safe again.

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and

follow the money.

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And again, I just think that morality is important.

Extremely.

And somehow it is slipping away.

In fact, I think last week I came across a story talking about how in Great Britain...

because different countries have different ways you have to kind of put in the information when it comes to business.

And the Trump Organization put in, in a filing in Great Britain, that Donald Trump is the person that still runs the Trump Organization.

He keeps saying here in the United States that he has...

has put it into a truss that his children are running it and

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he has nothing

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to do with it.

None of the things that he does affects what is being done with the Trump Organization.

Well, the lie was put to bed.

because they had to file, and they'd said, Donald Trump is the person.

And I saw a funny thing in the onion, the onion social media.

And it said, it had a picture, Jimmy Carter said, I had to sell my peanut farm when I became president.

And you have this guy who literally has just shredded, not just the constitution, but the whole idea of the vestiture.

Of being clean and having a separation.

Chad Holmes

You said it to me out there as well, where you are seeing people that are coming out for these rallies.

Yes.

I still worry that it's not getting as deeply into the bloodstream as it should be.

Are you optimistic that it's going to continue to build?

Yes, I am.

I think there continues to be a divide, especially if you look at social media.

It's awful.

But along with it,

Lot of us have been talking where we want to make sure people have an action Don't just come and yell and then you go home.

You feel good.

Yeah You need to then reach out to these public officials Write them letters constantly calling them whatever keep holding them accountable

Chad Holmes

I am Chad Holmes again joined by Marathon County Democratic Party Chair Nancy Stenzo.

Nancy, obviously going into the next couple of months one of the things that people have to focus on because I've said it so many times I know you believe it as well is priorities and budgets go together.

What are our priorities?

You can see them in a budget and obviously it's budget time.

You were part of the public hearing giving

your

Chad Holmes

thoughts on issues.

What do we do now?

It's sad.

There was so many people there with just really heartfelt things to say.

I mean, everything from special education to nursing homes, you know, to the Medicaid, just a host of things.

And then you turn around and you see Governor Evers come out with a good budget.

and over 600 items are yanked out of it.

Is there anybody out there that cares?

Chad Holmes

That is the bottom line.

And I think when we talk about not just this issue, but all issues.

The negativity by the very people that's going to affect the most.

Chad Holmes

And the thing about it, though, is if you don't do anything, then it's so easy for these folks to kind of steamroll it.

Yes.

And until it gets so bad, how do you roll it back then?

Chad Holmes

And that brings me to the question.

I really don't know what the answer is.

And maybe you have some ideas being closer to it is, how do we?

get those 600 different items that also often the GOP says are dead on arrival but are very important when you talk about again issues of education and childcare and the environment and so many different issues that are so important to the average everyday Wisconsinite.

One of the things that is very frustrating is so many of these issues are put through the lens of the very wealthy.

And we talk about it as well, because obviously the tax policy and everything else, it all goes together.

But so much is through that lens of, well, tax cuts for the rich, and we even talk about it.

But boy, the lens has to be on the 95%

people.

On the average person and the story that they tell.

because it's something we can all identify with and those stories are so powerful and people need to just keep getting out there and telling that story.

get it out to get it heard.

Chad Holmes

I saw a story yesterday.

It was talking about, you know, discussions in Washington when it comes to Medicare, Medicaid, budgets and everything else.

And one of the aspects that was talked about is that one thing that beyond that that really helped in the last number of years, the average workers wages did go up significantly during

the last administration, and we don't hear about that.

No, we don't.

We don't hear those important things.

Chad Holmes

And it made me think, and maybe again, maybe I'm being too simplistic here, maybe I'm being too dumb about it.

The idea that if these Republicans are so gung-ho on trying to cut some of these government programs, one way to do it is to make sure a lot more people have a living wage.

Yes.

I mean, that would be the easiest way.

I was thinking in terms of you want to cut budgets in Washington or Madison, just make sure that people have a living wage and then you don't have quite the need for some

of these programs.

Exactly.

Yeah.

You're taking away every safety net they possibly have.

And then you just leave them sit there.

What are they supposed to do?

And things like, you know, healthcare too, it shouldn't be such a.

for profit industry.

You work your whole life and then you

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lose everything.

We were talking, I was mentioning to you about how in the past for network news divisions, they used to not be a profit center.

They were there as part of the public

interest.

Right, you turned it on and you felt that what you heard was these people did their job to find out what was going on in your community and reported it to you.

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But that's very similar to what you just said.

My thought is healthcare should not be

thought of in the profit

realm as well.

Everything lately is thought of, and I blame Republicans for this, is thought of profit.

If you can't make a profit at it, you're not going to do it.

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Yeah, you're literally right on that.

Because even when you think about everything,

I saw a

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commentary from the right wing guy that runs WSU.

Talking about public broadcasting and PBS and why

are they trying to get rid of it?

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And the whole thing is well, why don't they take that Elmo money?

I mean everything being profit and loss there are some aspects of life

That should not be profit and

loss.

Exactly, exactly.

But

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unfortunately, it does feel like everything is.

And maybe kind of circling back to where we started.

The way that we talk to the people,

the

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candidates in the future.

Yes.

I mean, I do think that there are openings that people, if you say to them,

not everything has to be profit and loss or or use the idea of hey you want to have less money going into some of these programs well hey then just make sure that people are getting enough in their 40 hour work week in order to be able to

feed their family, have good health care.

Right.

One way or the other.

Those are the stories that don't get out there.

You know, be it by, you know, news outlets or what, but you look in, in a lot of different countries, how I think France is one of them that really has invested in like, you know, their, their, their childcare and how that all works and, and the success rate they've had with it.

Chad Holmes

No, you're exactly right.

So again, as.

The thing about it is, and I think again, something that you try to work on and that we try to keep an eye on is trying to make people are aware of it so much, but there is so much right now.

There's so much coming at you.

I think people turn everything off because they just can't deal with that much coming at them all the time.

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Guess the final point is what do because I want I kind of got off target there as we get into the next few months How can we affect the budget?

What do you want the governor to do?

I do should he veto a whole budget tree should he

fight even harder.

I know he fights hard.

He fights hard right now.

But at the same time, he's going to have to fight.

We're going to have to fight.

Get in that fight with him and and tell your stories.

Say why.

Get it out.

Be engaged to other people.

Be engaged is probably the biggest thing.

I'm happy you show up for all the rallies and the protests and there is another one next week.

Front of Tom Tiffany's office and stay tuned and

Watch Facebook and what not for more details on that.

Chad Holmes

That's Nancy Stencil.

We'll have more coming up.

It's morning of the pack right low on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Bill Nash and Young as we heard our daily history lesson.

Back on this date, May the 16th of 1970.

So you're going back, whoa, 55 years.

I shouldn't know that.

I was born in 1970.

Why do I have to think about that?

Maybe because I don't want to think about that.

But on this date, the 1970 CSN and Y scored their first number one album with a Javu.

Woodstock on that album, Take Your Children, really, really good.

Oh, the harmonies.

Oh, I love harmonies.

I do.

I agree with that.

I mean, the bands that have the harmonies, they're something that is still very special about that.

And again, what an interesting group of guys.

Obviously, they've had their ups and their downs over the careers.

And obviously,

David Crosby has passed on, but Neil Young, what an amazing career.

He just keeps on going and going.

Absolutely.

We'll have some more interesting tidbits here on our history lesson, but I have forgotten, and I'm glad Greg reminded me.

It is Friday.

It is.

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Exactly right.

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Get that app open.

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Not gold, Tony.

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But and you can only and you can only do it through the app.

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Chad Holmes

Very good point indeed and this today our free ticket Friday You'll win four tickets to see the Brewers on Wednesday, June the 21st at American Family Field taking on the Baltimore Orioles Actually one of the my great memories back when I was 11 years old back when the Brewers they actually won the American League back in 1982 The final home stand featured games against Baltimore

They they wrapped up there was fan appreciation night went to games on Saturday night and Sunday afternoon and what I remember being 11 years old was it was cold It was late September.

It was exceptionally cold But it was a lot of fun going to county stadium and if you win you'll have a lot of fun great tickets at American family.

Yeah, so again gold

Text it right now and then we'll have a drawing later on today And you'll have a chance to win and if you're the winner folks will contact you and get you those tickets so gold Text it right now and we'll remind you later in the program.

Yeah, some other quick tidbits concerning our daily history lesson 1980 on this date Paul McCartney released his second self-recorded album named McCartney to it's

Name McCartney to because like his solo debut McCartney in 1970 he plays all the instruments on the albums himself in fact The first McCartney album came just after the Beatles broke up and then in 1980 for McCartney to Wings was on the verge of breaking up and I gotta say when I was thinking about when I saw this McCartney Been around from what 60 65 years in terms of the music business.

Yeah

Everybody has their little dips, but boy Consistently he has been great.

I mean even late in his career because everybody still loves the Beatles stuff the wing stuff Yeah, some of the stuff it's hard for a legacy act to put out new music But when he does put out new music, it's really good stuff.

I mean the guy never settles He tries to stay on top of things that I just think what he has been able to accomplish Incredibly incredibly good.

Greg Bach

Well, this is

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one of the

Greg Bach

tracks

Chad Holmes

Go on.

No, I'm gonna say What we're gonna say is great.

I was gonna say

Greg Bach

one of the tracks from that album is the hit coming up.

So It's just got a good fun beat.

It's a tow tapper Yeah Good for the morning.

Yeah, it's good driving music.

Yeah, man.

I don't mind if the light doesn't go green.

I want to listen to this tune

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great, like I say, the man is going wrong.

And then that's the thing going wrong when he's out there pouring even for the very day.

And then finally, I wanted to mention real quickly, because this school takes me back to high school.

You two are the States in 1987.

That is the first number one hit to the United States with or without you for the Joshua Tree.

Greg Bach

Oh my god, the song.

This takes me back to high school, I tell you.

Chad Holmes

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