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Miss Christine on Queer Joy tour of midwest stop by Max Ink Radio
Max Ink Radio · Sat Sep 26, 2026
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That's from their 1996 debut album.
And we opened up that set actually with drowning in a dream the first of the double dip.
And you know, that was just a read.
That's a new song.
I put that in from the closet tonight.
I don't think I played that on Maxing radio for a long time.
Well, I certainly haven't heard it.
me
That's really kind of like last crack two point.
3.0, actually, with Jeff Grieshammer on drums and Paul Schluter on guitar, Don Bakken and Todd Winger.
That was a really great band.
The interesting thing about that, right, is that was 30 years ago, right?
30 years ago this month, Magic Seven was on the cover of Maximum Ink Music Magazine, and I was at the show in August, right?
And I was there to get pictures so we could put them on the cover and do the interview and all that kind of good stuff.
And I also happened to be working for the band at the time, selling some, some merch.
And at the show is an outdoor show.
As you know, the bands are playing.
This, this girl comes up, right?
I think I've told this on the year.
And she said she wanted to buy a T shirt for me.
I'm, I'm telling Jean because I
don't
And, uh, yeah.
And I said, uh, she said, you know, I forgot my, I forgot my wallet, but, um, I know the guys in the band.
I was like, everybody knows the guys in magic seven.
Come on here.
But.
I got her t-shirt, and now 30 years later, we've almost been married for 30 years.
That was my wife, Alice.
I met her at a Magic 7 show at the White House, which has now been bulldozed over, over on the north side.
In one of these days, you're going to have to break out your last crack flow chart.
Oh,
been
Well, you know, we have a really great show tonight.
I'm rocker here.
I'm mixing radio here with Jane tonight.
And boy, we have a crazy Milwaukee legendary radio personality started on WZMF QFM 93 QFM from my childhood back in the 80s.
Bob Reitman also Reitman and Miller, just a famous personality from Milwaukee.
We'll talk to him.
He's 80 years old now.
So he's been in radio since before like 1974.
Yeah,
we don't get too many 80 year olds here at Max inc radio.
He'll be on the phone from us with us from Milwaukee.
Miss Christine.
Miss Christine is here tonight actually playing Mickey's Tavern tonight.
And earlier today, she was playing at the vegan fest.
They're from Cambridge, Massachusetts, and they're on the Queer Joy Tour of the Midwest.
We'll hear all about that.
And Matthew Haefel, he's coming here from Milwaukee.
He's going to be playing for us live from the Man City tonight.
great sounding band, three peaceful drums and everything.
So really looking forward to it.
Yeah, we're really making these people drive all the way out.
Yeah.
Sorry, I couldn't be here for a blame it on Kane last week.
Oh, you know what?
There was a
So I was just in here by myself last week.
Hey, new music tonight from the Night Painters.
We have some vintage Ruby Star and Great Ghost coming up during Bob Reitman's interview.
I had some vintage bad boy and I pulled out Sigmund Snowpex.
Thank God this isn't Cleveland.
We're going to hear that totally humorous song.
And of course, we'll have something from the band feels latest album.
What I've released last week and come in here to open for a cheap trick right now.
Let's keep it going.
I want to replay this.
We played it last week.
Seesaw Pure Bliss.
It's one of their
brand new songs.
This goes out to Alice.
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That is a brand new from Seesaw.
I'm Rocker here with Jane in the control room.
Oh, we premiered that last week to have a couple of new songs.
We're going to be playing some of them every week.
That's a really good album.
And
please play more of them.
That sounds fantastic.
I didn't get to hear that last week.
I'm so glad.
We
So next next week we'll be playing some more Seesaw.
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Jane.
What
We're going to be hearing.
We're going to be hearing from the night painters they just sent in last week.
We played a bunch of new music.
We just heard brand new seesaw.
Here's a Marsden next.
You can send in your MP3s for me and Jane to play right here on Maxink radio.
Send it to music at civicmedia.us and we'll check it out.
We are also taking on people to play right here live in the layer live.
from the Mad City.
Boy, that's still in my brain.
It's okay.
I can't get rid of it.
Just like Matthew Heffel is coming here tonight to play with his band live in the studio from eight to nine p.m.
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So that's a new development as well.
And wow, we have some more brand new music coming up.
We have Bob Reitman coming up at the bottom of the hour.
But right now, let's do this.
Another band we premiered last week, Marsden.
He is going to be here actually next week interviewing and talking about this brand new album that's going to be released.
But right now, we have it and we're going to play it.
This is Joe Marsden, his band Marsden.
This is called Fate.
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And wow, that is a throwback.
If there's a throwback, because that comes from 1975.
They were on Capitol Records at that time.
That song was actually featured on the Midnight Special.
I don't know if you remember the Midnight Special, but that was a thing before like MTV, right?
Where bands performed on TV in the late 70s and maybe the early 80s.
The song came after she was in Black Oak, Arkansas, did the.
Go Jim Dandy song, which you may have heard of.
And Ruby continued after that with Blackfoot.
And then bands you might remember Milwaukee Grey Star and Ruby Star Band.
And Ruby, unfortunately, she passed away in 1995 after battling brain cancer.
You know, I grew up with her because she was one of my mom's best friends.
And so I knew Ruby well.
She was really awesome.
And it's interesting because we're kind of on this Milwaukee roll, right?
And right now, Bob Reitman.
He's been one of Milwaukee Radio's defining voices for more than six decades.
He began at WUWM in 1966 with a poetry program called Sense Waves and what became a pioneering free-form FM DJ at WQFM in 74 where he introduced Milwaukee audiences to artists including Bruce Springsteen, Patty Smith, while championing Bob Dylan, Lou Reed and other adventurous music.
In 76, Reitman set a Guinness World Record by
broadcasting continuously for 222 hours and 22 minutes.
He later spent more than 25 years alongside Gene Miller at WKTI for Reitman and Miller.
Right now at 80 years old, Reitman has returned to his first love poetry with 12th house.
It's released 54 years after the 11th house.
And on October 12th at the Pabst Theater, they're going to be having a big show honoring
Bob right, man.
Right now, Bob is on the phone with us from Milwaukee.
Bob, welcome to Max, Inc.
Radio.
Hey, how are you doing?
Ruby's style is a great name in Milwaukee.
And your mom was friends with her?
Yes, she was.
My mom, my mom was like a bartender at Sunset Bowl out in Waukesha.
And so, you know, we were always backstage with all the bands that came through that area.
And of course, Ruby played there, you know, many, many, many times.
And boy, she was just really good friends with her.
And, you know, we went to see her all the time.
That's great.
I mean, it's a name I remember.
Well, I had no intention of going into radio.
managing a cemetery.
And I don't know.
I mean, seriously, it was a very important job.
I had probably 46,000 people under
Yeah, but I was writing poetry starting in grade school and then just picked up on it because of, among other things, Bob Dylan's song, Chimes of Freedom, which turned me into a Dylan fan for all these years.
And the poetry started in sixth grade when I got caught
flirting with a girl in science classes.
Science teacher said, Raven, I'll see you after class.
And I'm going, oh God, I'm going to be after school until summer.
But instead of punishing me like that, he told me to memorize a poem, The Cremation of Sam McGee by Robert Service.
And I fell in love with it.
It's an interesting poem.
And I started writing and
I had no intention of getting into radio, but that was a farthest thing from my mind.
But I was reading poetry in coffee houses and stuff like that.
And WUWM, which is Milwaukee Public Radio, we asked them if I could have some time on the radio, maybe an hour.
And then General Manager, Dr. Ruane Hill said, yes, just like that.
And years later, when I talked to him, I said,
Why did you say yes so quickly?
Well, his kids were on his case to get some music on WUWM.
So it went from WUWM to all those FM stations that were losing money back in the day.
And they were looking, you know, they were tired, I think, in going broke playing elevator music and shopping mall music and stuff like that.
So a lot of guys and women got on the radio and started playing.
music and there was a huge audience of people that you couldn't get to Grateful Dead or Dylan or Leonard Cohen, any of them on top 40 radio.
So we started playing that and the rest is, you know, the audience was there and it was a privilege to play music for them.
The police department had mug shots of me.
WUWM got ratings which
public radio usually doesn't do.
But it just proved there was a big audience for really good music back then.
They got ratings and WZMF was floundering out in outskirts of Milwaukee, losing money like every other FM station in the country just about.
And they asked me if I wanted to do a show once a day for a week.
I looked at them, I said, are you kidding?
He said, we'll give you a hundred bucks.
And I thought they're going to pay me to play music.
It's like, it was really, sincerely unbelievable.
And we had good times at ZMF.
And then other stations, I've been fired at seven stations and hired at eight.
So it's
In what
radio?
Well, live radio with disc jockeys or whatever you want to call them, people playing music is kind of given way to these huge corporations where one company can own, I don't know, 100 stations like that's been happening.
So there's no local talent in the morning telling you what the weather's like, what the traffic's like, and just having fun.
Miller
I just had a good time together.
We spent 23 years doing that.
It really was nothing to do with music then.
It was just having fun.
Oh, you know There's a lot of good musicians that came out of Milwaukee that played here Bill Campbell and folk music
whip which
was a unique group that kind of played in the coffee houses and a lot of other groups.
I mean, I'm failing to come up with names without skipping somebody, but there was an active music scene here, and there still is.
But when you do nighttime radio, like I did for years, I didn't get out as much as I would have liked to, but I was busy playing music.
But there's a lot of, you know,
John Paris and what just a lot of good people.
I think so.
I mean, there were certain clubs that catered to local bands and a lot of local bands went national for a while.
But it was, I don't know how to compare it to any other city.
All I know is in Milwaukee, there are a lot of great musicians, good bands.
venues for them to play in, and they, you know, Sigmund Snowpeck and people like that, uh, flourished.
Yeah.
And some of them show around,
My biggest limitation was the audience.
In what sense?
limiting me.
happen.
The audiences were the people that made us.
It wasn't me.
It was the music and it was just a privilege to play it.
And I used to bring albums to parties in the 60s.
I loved bringing music to them and
I never thought about radio, but then the audience was there.
They were just, you know, hungry for all this great music that was coming out, you know, the Jefferson Airplane, Country Joe and the Fish, the Stones, and Dylan, and then Dylan, and then Dylan, so.
Good question.
I would bring in my own stuff initially carrying these two big metal cases and then WZMF had a record library and all the rest of them did too, but we could bring in our own stuff.
Some of those stations it was pretty formatted and when they got too formatted we just end up at another station that was willing to let us.
Well, talk about your work
Well, I've finally retired sort of.
And I wanted to thank WUWM for letting me start there and play whatever I wanted to.
And then I ended my career back at WUWM a few years ago, played music for about 17 years.
And my son, Bobby, joined us.
And when that ended, I took a step back and looked at what that station did for me personally and for the community letting us play that music.
And I wanted to thank them.
And I think, how can I thank them?
I said, well, why don't we do a scholarship fund?
And I went home and thought, what the heck am I talking about?
I'm not a millionaire.
But I really, I want to give them something special.
And I ran into Gary Channon, who's a very good friend of mine, especially the last couple of years.
And he has, he's had groups out of the elevators and he's produced albums and he's engineered them.
And he said to me after a while, he said, let's do an album together.
And I put one out in 74, 72, I guess it was.
and called the 11th house and he recorded the reading poetry from the early days up to the 70s 60s 70s and 80s and it turned into what I consider to be the thank you to WUWM because all the money we're making from the album which is called the 12th house all the money from that and all the money that were
They're going to get from doing a show at the Pap's Theater coming up on October 12th, a presentation, a very unique presentation.
All that money is going to WUWM.
I'm not looking to get a nickel off of it, and I know Tandon isn't, and nobody else is.
It's a remarkable gathering together of people helping me thank a great radio station that opened the doors.
Music all over the place and let me play music until I got middle-aged.
And by the way, I'm not 80.
I'm 84 84 Wow
you I look like I'm 19.
I
we're on we're on the radio.
We can tell people that
Hi, nice to meet you, Bob.
Hi, Jane.
Nice to meet you.
Well, that's wonderful.
And having two people working together doing a show to be very interesting, and having Jean Miller as my partner for 23 years, and I was his partner.
Yeah.
I mean, we had so much fun going to the Olympics.
five or six times broadcasting for Moscow.
Why haven't we gone to the Olympics?
Yeah.
Or Moscow.
Yeah.
Wow.
Question, Jane, I think you should put some pressure on
Actually, I moved into a senior living center and somebody here found out what I used to do on the radio and they asked if I would play music here.
So once a month, a bunch of people gather on the second floor and I play music for them.
So I can't stop.
I mean, it's in my blood.
I know that you have a website out there so people can keep up with you and find you online.
Robert Reitman.
Bob, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us tonight.
We really appreciate it.
And good luck with your show coming up October 12th at the Pap Theatre in Milwaukee called The 12th House in Twilight where you'll be releasing your latest album of poetry.
You know, well, thanks for having me.
I kind of rambled around a bit, but I hope I answered your
question.
Oh, it's all fine.
We love rambling.
song.
That is a great Led Zeppelin song.
Nice
You can see something, right?
Something
That's just incredible hearing that song again.
Something ain't right.
And that was from the Electric Eyes album from 1984.
They actually self-released that LP after they had been signed on a record label.
It was recorded at Breezeway Studios in Waukesha, Steve Grimm, Zeno, Billy Friday, and John Marcelli.
And you know what, those guys were good friends of mine too because they played along there with Ruby Star all the time out at the Sunset Bowl.
And you know,
I don't know if you realize this, but cheap trick vocalist, uh, the first one was actually Zeno from bad boy.
So he joined a bad boy after leaving cheap trick for reasons we won't talk about, but bad boy, great band.
Uh, I'm rocker here with Jane.
You're listening to maxink radio.
Thanks to Bob right now.
Great guy from Milwaukee, um, poise Benin radio.
I mean,
kind of crazy to talk to him being a radio person and live doing live radio.
He's a lot of great points.
Yeah, we should broadcast from Moscow.
I've been thinking about it.
Wow.
What a great, we still have a lot of great stuff coming up tonight.
Miss Christine, she'll be in the studio here after seven o'clock.
And then Matthew Hayfield, he's here with his band.
He'll be playing live from the Mad City from eight to nine PM.
And Jane, have you ever heard of Sigmund Snowpeck?
Oh, yes, I've seen him at Summerfest actually legend.
He was actually a composer.
So he used to write for orchestras.
He would write in crazy bands and there's this one song.
I can't remember what it is, but he goes and plays his trombone and he would just run all over the bar playing trombone in people's face and running.
He's just a crazy guy, right?
A Milwaukee legend.
So we wanted to also play another Milwaukee legend song, but this one is from 1987.
His first band was Bloomsbury people in 1968.
And you know, uh, Sigmund also performed with the violin fans often and the violin fans are on the song we're about to hear.
It's called, thank God this is in Cleveland.
And, uh, see, Siggy once promised if the Cleveland Indians finished above the brewers, that he'd stop playing.
I don't know if that's ever happened.
Yeah, I think they've won.
So maybe he's not playing anymore.
But we can play it right here on Max Inc Radio.
This is thank God this isn't Cleveland, Sigmund, Snowpeck the third.
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And before that running in place, that's a double dip right here.
I'm maxing radio running in place.
That was from their album, fine dining and breathing.
And of course, witchcraft was from their debut album, Fig Newton.
And, you know, the band that was inspired by SpongeBob SpongeBob.
Is that cool?
How crazy is that?
I just love them.
They're a great band, great show.
They don't.
they don't have any shows coming up.
I was looking out there, I keep saying, when are we gonna have a new magic concert?
And I sure hope they're working on one right now.
My name is Rocker here with Jane in the studio.
Jane, last week it was your birthday.
Oh yeah, my 21st
21,
you
Pretty good, we can be honest with you.
Like you just have to not drink on school nights and you're fine.
Oh yeah, on Saturday, yep.
He killed it, 91 years old, a total legend.
He can still walk out like a total chauvinist man and play the trumpet really well too.
And he's still sharp in everything.
One of the first things he said when we sat down, he was about to start was, it's so nice to be in a venue that's older than me.
Theater.
I know, but you, but I only need to really keep in track of three of them.
True.
That's always the toughest part.
Watching the clock, seeing what's going on.
Well, you know, we had some great things happen tonight.
Bob Reitman, legendary Milwaukee radio personality.
QFM, ZMF, Raymond and Miller.
That was a lot of fun.
Thanks a lot, Bob, for coming on the show.
Just in a little while here, Miss Christine and Miss Christine, they're playing at Mickey's Tavern tonight.
They were playing at a vegan fest earlier today.
And the band is from Cambridge, Massachusetts, but they're out on tour in the Midwest.
They call it their queer, queer joy tour.
And then we'll hear from Matthew Hathill.
He is here live from the Mad City.
He's gonna be jamming this full band.
We got a drum set in here tonight.
I feel like, in fact, like he's been here.
He's just been hanging out.
Yeah, they just left him here.
They're out on State Street.
I sure hope they make it back.
They're supposed to be back in just a few minutes before we talk to Miss Christine.
And we still have some great music, new music from the band Feel.
from their latest album, what of?
And they'll be coming to Milwaukee landmark union theater.
And that's going to be November 18th, opening up for a cheap trick, which is pretty cool.
You know what?
I actually called their agent today and I want him back at Atwood Fest because of course, you know, I would fast guy canceled the date is open and they're penciling me in.
So I'm really helpful.
We'll get them off for Atwood Fest next year.
Right now, let's see where are we going?
Night painters new music
They're on a new page for me I don't even know what happened to that page But hey, you know what night painters they they sent me in some music, right?
We requested it out there We're gonna schedule them to play right here live from the Mad City coming up in the future But if you have new music and you're in a band you need to send it to us music at civic media dot US and things will happen to you just like the night the night painters right now
from Madison brand new from their new album that's just going to be released in a week.
This is called Frog March.
You're listening to Maxink Radio.
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our guests here.
I get caught.
That was the Night Painters.
And I'm going to tell you about the Night Painters right now.
I can't
go.
You know, things are happening here in the studio.
Got a lot of stuff.
It's really very fluid.
The Night Painters.
That was Frog March.
That's from their new album.
Good thinking.
They're they're going to have a CD release party coming up at the burrow.
November 7th with Cuoka.
And I want to get some music for Quokka and get him in here and talk to them.
That sounds like a cool band.
I'll have to show you what an actual Quokka is when we go in to break.
I don't even know where I'm lost.
Gosh.
Oh my goodness.
My name is Rocker here with Jane.
You're listening to Max, Inc.
Radio and Miss Christine.
She just walked in.
We're going to be talking to her after the bottom of the hour.
And then we have so a lot of great music coming up tonight.
The band feel still yet to come.
And then Matthew Hayfield here from Milwaukee to play for us live from the Mad City tonight.
We have
Some great music coming up right now.
Becca Murray and the Wildflowers.
She has a new album out and this is called Skating By.
This is a song called Lost.
You can see her with her band Atomic Blonde.
She's in a cover band called Atomic Blonde and man, she nails those songs.
Unbelievable artist and singer.
We had her right here.
live from the Mad City just a few months ago.
So if you go to Apple Music or Spotify, you can find our podcast, look up Maxink Radio, and you can listen to Becca Murray and the Wildflowers when she was right here.
Atomic Blonde, December 6th at the Boulevard Lanes on Madison's east side.
Let's check it out right now.
This is Becca Murray and the Wildflowers lost.
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Can't see that is miss Christine and you are listening to maxing radio My name is rocker here with Jane in the control room and right now bassist singer-songwriter and band leader Christine mode brings a fearless mix of indie rock blues soul and punk attitude to the stage as miss Christine a Berkeley College of Music graduate Christine's toured internationally and worked as a national session bassist before releasing albums
And now, based in Cambridge, Massachusetts, Ms.
Christine describes their sound as punk rock doo-wop, pairing jubilant performances with songs that challenge expectations around gender, identity, and sexuality.
Their award-winning Google University video appeared at film festivals around the world and currently writing a third album planned for 2027.
Ms.
Christine was in town earlier today, performing at Vegan Fest, and tonight...
Ms.
Christine plays at the Mickey's Tavern on Willy Street.
Ms.
Christine, welcome to Max Inc.
Radio.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm so happy to be back in Madison.
I love the food here.
It was amazing to be at vegan fest.
That was my first time ever playing a vegan fest
and I walked out with the most sweets possible because I'm a big sweet tooth, but I was most surprised by the vegan Dubai chocolate
like the viral sensation and they had a vegan version which we're gonna dive into after our show tonight.
Well, I started on the clarinet and then piano, but when I was 12, I started playing bass, and I played my first show when I was 12, and I've been hooked ever since, and now it's been over 20 years, and I just can't stop, I guess.
Yeah.
Oh man, as soon as I wanted to be in bands, my parents were nothing but supportive and my dad went out and bought a sound system to run sound for my band and he booked our first tour all around Iowa because that's where I'm from is Iowa.
we were playing car shows and all kinds of little community events and it was so much fun and I'm so grateful for my parents support.
For sure.
And my parents are not musical at all.
So we
where it comes from and where I got it from.
But yeah,
loves the 60s and 70s rock.
So that's where my influence comes from.
But yeah.
Yeah, so I graduated over 12 years ago now.
But it was always my dream.
I grew up in a really small town in Iowa, and I really wanted to go and learn as much as I could about the electric bass.
And so I really dreamt big, and I got into Berkeley, and I actually graduated, which is rare.
But I have a degree in electric bass performance, and I've been performing ever since.
I avoided
as much as I could.
I had
to take
class my last semester, though, to graduate.
But I was doing all kinds of other things, like Latin and R&B and pop and stuff like that.
Oh, yeah.
My first band was called Eris.
And the guitarist of that band is actually the guitarist on Saturday Night Live now.
Oh,
all kinds of cool people I went to school with.
right?
It's in Boston.
And I moved back to Boston three years ago now.
So it ebbs and flows a lot because it is a college town, but there is a good music scene there and a lot of artists that are, you know, Massachusetts based and local.
And so when I was in college there, I got.
connected with the music scene outside of the Berkeley bubble
And there's a great music scene there.
there?
I mean, there's definitely both, but I'm in the original music scene
sure.
But yeah, I teach private music lessons and a lot of my students play in like Yacht Rock bands or different kinds of cover bands.
But there's a lot of great original music there.
Yeah, well, I've been performing under the name Miss Christine for 16 years now.
And so this is like the new iteration of it.
But tonight.
We have Tony Andrews on drums who flew in from Atlanta to play a agro Hernandez from Des Moines, Iowa is on guitar and then Ali Hicks, who is based in Boston with me is on keys and vocals.
And so we've been playing together.
for the last in the 2020s.
So it ebbs and flows and changes all the time, but this name has been around for a long time.
And I've just keep doing this because it's a lot of fun.
Tour is great and we wanted to name this tour the Queer Joy Tour because Iowa, where I'm from, my home state was the first state to repeal gender identity from the Civil Rights Act.
And so I'm gender queer.
I'm also asexual.
My bandmates are queer and right now, when all of these...
Forces are trying to repeal laws to make it so people like me don't have a voice We want to be a voice because there's so much joy in being queer and so we've been having great time seeing people in Ames in Iowa City and last night we were in Chicago and we're so stoked to be
in Madison tonight.
And tomorrow we'll be in Minneapolis and then we'll be in Pittsburgh on Wednesday.
It's a little bit of a drive.
Yeah,
same with
Madison
to
Minneapolis.
Four hours.
A little bit more, but.
I was being nice.
I was being nice.
I'm so excited.
I've had nothing but the best times playing in Madison.
I've been touring through here since 2019, actually 2018.
And it's always so much fun.
It's great to be back.
And of course, the food is great, as you mentioned earlier.
And the bands we're playing with tonight, The Golf Dolls, Rat Cemetery and Super Brick, super pumped to share the stage with them.
And it's just going to be a great time.
And there's going to be lots of queer joy.
I'm just so stoked to be here.
And
Yes, we've been performing or premiering three new songs and it's been really fun to play new music again because this tour is also joyful because we're taking a little
break outside of our writing, because we've been working on this new record since February.
And so it's nice to finally play this music in front of people, and it's been really fun.
No, we'll be going
Yeah, and we'll be going down to Nashville in November.
Oh,
Yeah.
Yeah, if you go to mischristinemusic.com, it's all there.
Miss Christine music dot com.
sometime in 2027?
That's like the dreaded question.
When is it going to come out?
When's the album artwork done?
We had to record it first,
it'll be out next year sometime and I cannot wait for new music.
Yeah.
So the songs you're hearing are from my second album.
It came out in 2023.
That album is called Bitter Sweet.
So you heard the song, Can't See.
And the next song will be called Love With You.
And yeah, we've been playing those songs live the last three years.
So it's time for some new music.
And you can hear some tonight at Mickey Stavren.
Well, it just, I feel like it's a good embodiment for the queer joy tour.
You can't love someone until you learn to love yourself.
And so I learned to love myself and it's been amazing, the people that that's brought into my life and it's brought me so much queer joy.
So I thought that was a good closing note for the song.
music.
you
good time.
You've got a little time to get over there before the shows.
I hope Christine has their chili.
Yes.
Oh, it's pretty good.
Uh-huh.
Oh, yeah.
Some of the best in town, I think.
I'm sorry?
In English?
Yeah, they just did something like that at the film festival this year, actually.
I wish I could have gone, but I didn't really have time.
and hear them again.
I'm recording them all right here and you should be able to hear them again pretty soon.
That's right
and make sure to send your music in to music at civicmedia.us and also make sure to go to Max Inc Radio and remember you can follow along with us on Max Inc Radio and see what's playing now.
It's right at the top of the page.
Super easy to do.
And now you can find out which bands are playing.
But tonight we still have Matthew Heifel coming up from Milwaukee.
He's going to be playing right here with his band live from the Man City just after the top of the hour.
But right now let's go back.
This is what are we doing?
We're calling it mandatory the band feel every week.
I'm going to be playing one of their songs.
My god, you're a fan
mean, well deserved.
But yeah.
Oh, yeah,
And, you know, if I get them to come back to AdWords Fest, I want you to come see them there.
They just released last week in Nashville.
They had a show releasing their brand new album, What of Now?
And we have one of those songs from that album right here.
These guys are local in St.
Louis, okay?
All
really making it.
Six, eight hours away.
Technically local, I
And I vote that keeps on yearning
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Tonight we have Matthew Haifel and a Milwaukee native.
Matthew Haifel is an independent song Smith who's logged more than 1500 live shows since 2002, building a sound around soulful.
of vocals, rhythm and guitar, and thoughtful storytelling.
And Matthew's latest album, Tenacity, it feels like a perfect title for an artist who spent more than two decades doing things his own way.
Written and produced by Matthew in Rhythm 80, the studio he designed and built himself, the record blends roots rock, blues, jazz, and world music flavors around themes of resilience and perseverance.
And tonight, he's joined by longtime collaborators Marshall McGee and Brandon Anthony.
Matt, Marshall, Brandon, welcome to Live From the Man City on Max Inc Radio.
All right, Rick, I think you're having us.
You know, you guys, you guys went out, I don't know if you got something to eat, but you know, we're a foodie town here in Madison, right?
So we want to know, man, where did you go?
Did you get something to eat out there?
Yeah, we went to this, that Parthenon, Euro place.
Well, I guess it's pretty normal.
Just through school, I played some saxophone.
There you go.
You play sax?
I played alto and bass, baritone.
Nice.
Yeah.
And then I found some keyboards.
He's a fiddle in my room with like an old cheap Casio.
And then there was a guitar downstairs, a classical nylon string guitar, but it only had two strings.
Two strings?
Yeah.
Out of
sixth?
My dad had bought it like 30 years ago when he was younger.
And I fiddle around with it so much that eventually they bought me new strings.
And then after I kept playing it, they bought me a new guitar that was a little better.
Ever since
since I've been playing music.
string.
It's one of the best bands to play if you only got two strings power chords.
So I'm about 13 when I got my first it was an electric or an acoustic it was an electric Squire, that's what it was that Oh,
Ken brand vendors went out of tune every other song Yeah, well you wouldn't even need it, but I recommend that to people it taught me
how to play by ear, tune by ear, play a crappy guitar first.
a bit.
I'm not that close at the count there.
I'd say about 20 to 30, something
Wow.
Maybe I should do a theme album, yeah.
No, it's just hitting the pavement.
Ever since I was 18 years old, I've been playing out.
It's the same old stuff networking and staying power.
I guess is if there's
secret it's staying perseverance.
Yeah
I'll play as far as they'll pay me to afford to get back
Most of the time you put like a compass point on Milwaukee.
You go
Green Bay Madison, Chicago.
anywhere in between That's about where I can get to and get back without having like hotel costs and stuff.
from Milwaukee.
Yeah.
Well, let's get to live music from the Mad City with Matthew Hayfield, presented by the Aaron Weber group.
The first song that you have for us tonight, it's called Give It Back.
And it's from your new album, Tenacity.
Is this a song about letting go of my ego?
Did I not get it that time?
No, I just wasn't expecting it,
I guess.
That's how my jokes are.
Yeah, I guess it is letting go of my ego.
Yeah, it's about... I find this idea interesting that your heart or your emotions or feelings, whatever label you put on it, they can be arrested in their development with good and bad.
So you can be in love and fall apart, and you can be heartbroken and fall apart.
And so that was the idea behind the song.
A little cold and cruel And it asked for so much To give you nothing but pain All your heart is like an anchor Holding on to you Well know what you're gonna do
Holdin' on to you.
One more!
You are listening to Matthew Hayfield live from the man city on Max inc radio.
My name is Rocker here with Jane and we have the Matthew Hayfield band.
Let's get to know the boys in the band and we're going to start with bassist Marshall McKee.
Marshall, give me a test on that microphone quick.
Hey there.
Oh, well, I started playing music at a Parkland Assembly God in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
And I was about 11 years old.
I started playing for the adult service.
And basically, my mom ran the bookstore there.
And so we had to stay at church every Sunday after church let out.
And so me and my older brother, we would just practice.
I've been practicing as a kid and playing professionally since about 11.
still a
drummer.
He's still a drummer.
Yeah, I'm still a drummer.
But
sometimes he's playing drums with me, sometimes bass.
Yeah, it's a.
Blessing, but also a testament to my diligence of rehearsing and practicing.
I practice a lot of time.
I've spent a lot of time by myself practicing.
That's what it requires.
Brady
Yeah, it was awesome to be a part of that lineage of.
different personalities and different cats who've been able to host it.
I hosted it for about two and a half years, and we won a couple awards for the best jam in the city.
And it was a privilege and a blessing to be able to facilitate for local musicians.
Now, you've
I'd say it's a beast.
The issue with Milwaukee is that there's so many bars.
And so a lot of people didn't like to pay covers back in the day, but other
than that, they still like
to.
Yeah, but they still like they still like to.
So, you know, getting getting past that, like, you know, just persevering, you know, having some tenacity involved as well.
Yeah, it's required.
You got to have thick skin in Milwaukee.
Matthew, let's get back to you.
You once stated that your early band played a lot of originals compared to covers in Milwaukee and around Wisconsin.
I know that's sometimes a tough sell.
Tell us about.
You know your cover song ratio there and what challenges you have with original music and and you know, maybe how that's different today
Yeah, so it's still the same Somewhere between 75 to 50 percent covers depending on the venue you get some venues Sports bars come to mind.
They're gonna want to hear something that
So it's not like I don't play the game We also do renditions of covers.
I try to put my own spin on things.
They don't try to be an impersonator.
I try to
play things that people recognize, but still with a, you know, my flavor on top of it.
And as far as, like, the Trials and Tribulations of being an original musician in a very cover-heavy, at least at the local level, scene is, I mean, I guess you could only imagine.
There's nothing against cover bands.
I love cover bands.
Oh, yeah.
I play cover songs.
But I wish there was a little more support for the original scene.
is your job, right?
Yeah, and Marshall touched on it.
Like when he was doing the open mic, there's so much talent.
There's so many writers and yeah, and they don't get the opportunities that I think, you know, it's like, do you do you want to be like a music and drink into the music kind of city?
Or do you want to like start like a Nashville, Austin, like, you know,
a scene?
Oh, I'm kind of taking myself out of it.
I'm just speaking about original music.
mean, in fact, in the 90s, there was bands like the Violent Femmes, the Guffs.
Little blue crunchy things like there was an original scene in the 90s that seems to have dissipated a little bit.
It's kind of disappointing
wondering
Um, yeah, it's specifically it's wondering about someone's true intentions.
Uh, what's behind the facade that they put up, you know, like, uh, trying to understand if, you know, what's behind the mask, I guess.
What she's thinkin' in this?
She's thinkin' to me.
Oh, she keeps her high beneath her.
I thought so, I was underwear-locking people.
She keeps those eyes, those eyes thin.
Doesn't wanna even let them be bought.
She keeps her high forever, but doesn't wanna let anyone see and I'm worn down.
What she's thinkin'.
Since the dead and the fall where she's been.
Oh, she never compromises to where I
Simply similar to Marshall.
So pots and pans when I was younger, like two or three from there started playing in church shortly after my mom sings my dad played.
Trumpet and drums and his brothers all played too.
So just kind of history repeating itself.
I had a mentor Dr. Abe Costa race like Awesome awesome teacher Just world music really like percussion drums and kid then from there schooling middle school high school Jazz band jazz combo marching band everything, you know
then just like
my own bands, punk bands, rock bands, heavier stuff, fusion stuff.
Just basically indulging myself in everything,
Yeah, it was a cool experience.
I had a drum off experience years back and I was winning that round and Clyde was judging and it was just a humbling experience, man.
It's amazing to...
meet somebody that's on such a high level of talent and music in the industry.
Honestly, him just reassuring me in what I'm doing, but also just...
It's almost like he was trying to teach me the lesson of like patience, maybe Like
just kind of like you know like you have to you have to go through some things to get to the things That's
Definitely.
So I was with Misha Siegfried.
We played too.
We hosted for a little bit.
And then it's also just been like my old bands lost in a name from like high school.
So like heavier stuff.
And then there was also a witch doctor, which was like a later project.
It's kind of like a think of like a Jimi Hendrix kind of fusion, like a hot take on that.
And
was, yeah, man, just kind of the things that I just really like.
I tried to
put myself in the position to you know be there and be present for it because I think that like being a well-rounded musician is It's better than being you know, just that that one track mind
Yeah, actually through the open mic Matt came in and it's kind of just recruiting people and yeah, yeah, he kind of just found us and
you know through word of mouth because the scene is pretty it's pretty tight knit and where it was back in the early 2010s and stuff but like the scene was really tight knit and everybody kind of was like working with each other trying to figure out who to play with and yeah we just get you gave me a shot and kept on coming.
For a certain group, yeah, a certain network of people.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a band called Soulful Moments that came out of there.
There's Sam Harvey Soup came out of there.
Yeah, a bunch of bands came out of there.
Thank
we appreciate the opportunity.
Yeah, I wrote this one back in college and basically it's about all the little things that pile up to get in the way of your day Frustrating you not that you can't do them like you succeeded all of them like you got to mow the lawn and you got to do the chores Yeah,
like but it's all all that little stuff that piles up and you just feel like Overwhelmed sometimes.
I think we can all relate to this.
Just know you tangled up with you And you just know, just know
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My name is Rocker here with Jane in the control room and we're here with Matthew Haifel tonight.
Drova here from Milwaukee to PlayForce Live right here in the studio with this three-piece band Marshall and Brandon and Matt.
And Matt, to celebrate your 25 years of performing professionally, you are considering a deep cuts anniversary album that will include live unreleased material.
And you must just have a giant backlog of songs.
I'm imagining.
Yeah, there's about 150 wrote more than that.
But those are the ones that stayed, you know.
in fact, you just told them about the idea.
They
talk
The other day, a friend of mine, Matt Cook, who actually helps us bookshows and stuff, he just reminded me it's gonna be 25 years and oh, we should do something.
I got all kinds of unreleased stuff we could, you know, do something.
Yeah, I don't know if it's strategy or necessity, but.
I had bands with members, people have jobs, families.
They can't gig out as much as I wanted to gig out.
Yeah.
So it was just easier to get a bunch of really good, talented people able to improv, come up on stage.
I mean, this is, you know, about six drummers, bassists, keyboardists, each, right?
So it was like 12 to 18 people in the rotation over time.
Some people have moved away, some are
Sure.
Yeah.
But it's mostly necessity.
And thank God, again, like Marshall said earlier, Milwaukee's got a wealth of talent to draw from.
In the summer, three to four.
I mostly focus on the summer now.
The winter is more for writing and getting ducks in a row, fixing equipment, et cetera.
Yeah, just staying home because you don't want to drive in a blizzard.
know.
I should probably have a system tonight.
I should probably get assist
every season You know like it actually started now about a month ago.
They start some venues will start booking for next year and you just
put them down on the schedule one by one.
And that's it.
No real system.
I should get a system,
it.
Yeah, Didn't I is you can make a lot of plans, you can have expectations and just about every time you walk into the actual situation.
It's nothing like you thought it was going to be.
That's kind of what this is about.
Places to catch on to faces behind And I'm tired as it is Maybe slip in for a bit Just keep on in for these pecs And you take me home This is what the forest comes when we're all alone Sitting down with them inside and shut the door behind Maybe thinking they're tired, tired, but there's no more time Dancing in the corner
No more than I wanted to know Casting the corner, stretching from there, that's how Oh, and there's nothing much to do Can't go do-
And I'm tired as it is And I'm feeling like a clown
in the corner
Yeah, I actually made it, started back in 2010, and... That long
Yes, I'll tell you why.
Okay.
So I'm making it out of Legos.
And
genius idea, right?
know, but the first Lego movie was 2010.
Like I'm literally in the living room making my little Lego video
trailer for the major Lego Batman movie or whatever it was.
And so I felt like a like a corporate hacker.
So I'm right like stealing this idea.
was Dave Matthews.
There was like almost everybody was doing Lego videos.
You're like, what happened?
Yeah, and so I finally, you know, I feel like it's been long enough.
I don't know.
I
this footage, so I used it.
The song itself isn't to gigging musicians, but the pictures, the footage is like, from start to finish a show, like arriving, setting up,
paid just a penny.
Or one lego.
There's a drunk dance in it, you know.
and
three to five thousand photos.
Oh, God, yeah.
I was so disappointed when that movie came
yeah, I had to figure it out.
Like I had to dust it, like, you know, for two years.
It was sitting in the living room and I had to come up with my own way.
Like this is.
a little before a green screen became so easy to do.
I mean, people nowadays don't understand how easy green screen is now.
Back in the day, so I did actual photos and I printed them out and I made this little set of the Legos from when I was a child.
It was, I was kind of proud of it till that movie
Yeah, or Hayfield.com.
You can get the videos there
We should spell that.
That's H-A-E-F-F-E-L.
Correct.
Hayfield.com for you out there with pencils.
You want to get that down?
Matthew Hayfield can be found around Wisconsin playing in Theansville Village Market on September 29th and the Nice Ash cigar bar in Waukesha on October 2nd and the Art Bar in Milwaukee on October 16th.
Do you get a big Stokey as part of your pay when you play the cigar?
I don't
even think we get discounts.
No, we get drinks.
Sometimes I get a hookah.
favorites.
I'll be forgetting.
just at a place called Classics in Chano last week.
Was that last week, two weeks ago?
That's a great place.
They just love music up there.
A little, little small town.
The people are great.
Nice.
That's just a good place.
Jim and Linda's is pretty good place.
Jim and Linda's
in Malone.
Yeah, on Lake Winnebago.
Oh
yeah.
TJ's is another.
Place across that lake deja vu martini lounges a good place in Appleton See now, I'm feeling bad because I know there's people out there.
They're going why didn't you mention me?
Yeah a lot in Fox Valley Also racing Madison.
We were in Stoughton this year for their little gazebo thing.
Oh,
yeah We were in Wanakie earlier in the year.
Yeah anywhere that'll have me
Well, now people have heard you out here in Madison.
So hopefully if they hear Matthew Hayfield is coming around, they'll be like, man, that's really good stuff.
I heard it on Max Inc Radio.
That's right.
Let's get back to live music from the Mad City with Matthew Hayfield presented by the Aaron Weber group.
The next song that you have for us tonight is called What I Found.
Is this a song about a Google search?
Man, you guys think this throws me off every time you do it No, this is actually about existential dread You can create or destroy meaning it like trying to find it is a
fruitless task because you can create it on your own.
And so there's a line in here that the reason for living is to grow old.
It's kind of like a flippant remark.
I'm like, calm down, everybody.
You know?
Wow.
Taking stride one day at a time.
Like I'm being used to yourself and abused Both neglected and you often confused Fused like I've been let down and I've been tossed around Both neglected and you often confused No, it's coming up roses, maybe
the market they have been called this rubber ceiling doesn't help it down
and the tools and spices you use for me just coming up
That's right.
So that's the main reason was to maximize creative time to work on something instead of being on a clock and, uh, and, uh, you know, getting by the hour on the clock.
I wanted to build my own studio and man, it took a lot longer than I thought it would.
Um, you know, uh,
On a musician's salary basically I could buy like one thing a year like a drum set or Pro Tools or you know Yeah, and then and then I had to learn how to work at all, you know Which I didn't want to rush into and I want to take my time We started actually recording 2019 and I don't know if you heard what happened in 2020 But it kind of got put on hold for a
years We
Sure.
So the basic idea behind it was I love the juxtaposition of something awful coming and making something good.
How do I explain?
There's a song called Sheltered by Ruin on the album, and it's about...
the city of Pompeii that was covered by the volcano.
And if you're ever lucky enough to be there, you stand there, and it's so beautiful.
Like, even though all the people are there and it's crowded, there's some kind of serenity and stillness about it, and, you know, the moss growing on the rocks, and just this beauty out of this ruin, right?
And so every song kind of has this theme of, like, things are bad, but persevere, or, you know, I wonder what she's thinking.
But, you know, get on with it.
And then there's a double meaning too, because as I'm making this album and I'm coming up with this, I don't know, it's not really a concept album, but it's an idea.
It's a theme, I guess.
I step back and I say, you know what, this exactly mirrors my own career as, you know, 25 years, gigging out.
You know, I've had PAs blow up on me.
This last June, I cut myself.
The listeners won't see it, but I'll show rocker here.
See that, where that string
that in a food processor like a centimid.
He can vouch for me.
I was playing with that thing for a month.
I've had to break into my own car to get to the next show.
You know, just all these little things.
Tenacity.
That's it.
Just tenacity.
Tenacity.
Hey, Phil dot com is the best way you can get to all the social media from there.
You can get to videos, shows, etc, etc.
Yeah, so uh jazz up is um People are short on kindness and the cynicism that could follow that like you get upset because people aren't doing
respectful things.
And then so then there's the line in the song, it says, I'm going to ride this cloud around like, you know what?
I'm just I'm checking out.
I'm just going to deal.
Sometimes I feel a little too kind And if I don't mind, then it won't mean a thing Keep it now
Thank
you.
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Live from the Mad City on Max Inc Radio, tonight we have Matthew Haefel.
And a Milwaukee native, Matthew Hayfield, is an independent songsmith who's logged more than 1500 live shows since 2002, building a sound around soulful vocals, rhythm and guitar, and thoughtful storytelling.
And Matthew's latest album, Tenacity, it feels like a perfect title for an artist who spent more than two decades doing things his own way.
Written and produced by Matthew in Rhythm 80, the studio he designed and built himself.
The record blends roots, rock, blues, jazz and world music.
flavors around themes of resilience and perseverance.
And tonight he's joined by longtime collaborators, Marshall McGee and Brandon Anthony.
Matt, Marshall, Brandon, welcome to Live From the Mad City on Max Inc Radio.
All right, Rick, thank you for having us.
You know, you guys, you guys went out, I don't know if you got something to eat, but you know, we're a foodie town here in Madison, right?
So we want to know, man, where did you go?
Did you get something to eat out there?
Yeah, we went to, uh, this, that, um, Parthenon.
Yeah.
Euro.
Oh, a classic.
Yeah.
Parthenon.
Oh yeah, man.
Euros.
That's perfect.
Uh, Matt, before we, uh, get to your band and bandmates, how did you get started playing music?
What's your backstory?
Well, uh, I guess it's pretty normal.
Just, uh, through school, I played some saxophone.
Um,
saxophonus unite
there you go you play sex
yeah alto and soprano
i played alto and bass baritone nice yeah um and then uh i found some keyboards he's a fiddle in my room with like a old cheap cassio and uh then there was a guitar downstairs a classical nylon string guitar but it only had two strings two strings yeah out of sixth my dad had bought it like 30 years ago when he was younger and uh i fiddled around with it so much that eventually they bought me new strings
And then after I kept playing it, they bought me a new guitar that was a little better.
And ever since, ever since I've been playing music,
I heard that they had watched you for quite some time.
Play that stew string guitar.
Now, what was this?
You learned some Nirvana.
Well, yeah, strings.
It's one of the best bands to play if you only got two strings power chords.
Oh, that's a good one.
So.
Your parents they helped you get another guitar then how old were you at that time?
So I'm about 13 when I got my first it was an electric or an acoustic it was an electric Squire, that's what it was that oh, yeah kin brand yeah vendors went out of tune every other song
Yeah,
well you wouldn't even need it But I recommend that to people it taught me
how to play by ear, tune by ear, play a crappy guitar first.
So 1500 shows since 2002.
Almost 1600 now, yeah.
Really?
Wow, that's quite a bit.
How many more shows until 1600, you know?
I'm not that close at the count there.
I'd say about 20 to 30, something
like that.
Wow.
That's pretty cool.
I will what are your like booking secrets?
I mean fifteen hundred shows since 2002 you got to have some good information there tenacity
Maybe I
should
do a theme album.
Yeah No, it's just hitting the pavement.
It's ever since I was 18 years old.
I've been playing out
It's the same old stuff.
Networking and staying power, I guess.
If there's a secret,
it's staying
power.
Perseverance.
Yeah, perseverance.
And, you know, where do you all play?
Is it just Wisconsin or do you travel outside of Wisconsin?
Well, I'll play as far as they'll pay me to afford to get back home, okay?
But most of the time, you put like a compass point on Milwaukee, you go like Green Bay, Madison, Chicago, and anywhere in between.
That's about where I can get to and get back without having like hotel costs and stuff like
that.
And you're from Green Bay?
from Milwaukee.
Yeah.
Well, let's get to live music from the Mad City with Matthew Hayfield, presented by the Aaron Weber group.
The first song that you have for us tonight, it's called Give It Back.
And it's from your new album, Tenacity.
Is this a song about letting go of my ego?
Did I
not
get it that time?
No,
I just wasn't expecting it, I guess.
That's how my jokes are.
Yeah, I guess it is letting go of my ego.
Yeah, it's about... I find this idea interesting that your heart or your emotions or feelings, whatever label you put on it, they can be arrested in their development with good and bad.
So like you can be in love and fall apart and you can be heartbroken and fall apart.
And so that was the idea behind the song.
Very good.
Let's check it out right now.
This is give it back Matthew Hayfield live from the man city on Max inc radio
A little cold and cruel And it asked for so much To give you nothing but pain Oh, your heart is like an anchor Holding on to you Let me know what you're gonna do with your heart
We're not too late We're not too up to base We're not too holding me down We're not too go around When your heart is locked and ain't got Holding on to you Well done, Casey Is it in your mind?
back in the
Never friends to make amends Keep it on cordial trend And we'll see you we'll go once more
Just give it all you got and get back
up Yeah, give it back you are listening to Matthew Hayfield live from the Mad City on Maxing radio My name is Rocker here with Jane and we have the Matthew Hayfield band
Let's get to know the boys in the band, and we're going to start with bassist Marshall McKee.
Marshall, give me a test on that microphone quick.
Hey there.
All right.
We got you in here.
How did you get your start in music?
And what's your backstory?
Oh, well, I started playing music at a Parkland Assembly of God in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
And I was about 11 years old.
I started playing for the adult service.
And basically, my mom ran the bookstore there.
And so we had to stay at church every Sunday after church let out.
And so me and my older brother, we would just practice.
I've been practicing as a kid and playing professionally since about 11.
Nice.
And you said that you were previously a drummer.
Yeah, I'm
still a drummer.
He's still a drummer.
But sometimes
he's playing drums with me, sometimes bass.
Yeah, it's a blessing, but also a testament to my diligence of rehearsing and practicing.
I practice a lot of time.
I've spent a lot of time by myself practicing.
So that's what it requires.
Now, well, you spent a lot of time with Marshall McGee and the Wanderers.
at the up and under is the house band.
Yeah.
Tell us about playing that because, I mean, that open jam was classic there at the up and under.
Brady Street, Milwaukee.
Yeah, it was awesome to be a part of that lineage of.
different personalities and different cats who've been able to host it.
I hosted it for about two and a half years, and we won a couple awards for the best jam in the city.
And it was a privilege and a blessing to be able to facilitate for local musicians.
Now, you've
been out in the Milwaukee scene for a while.
Tell us about the Milwaukee local music scene from your perspective.
I'd say it's
a beast.
The issue with Milwaukee is that there's so many bars, and so a lot of people didn't like to pay covers back in the day, but other than that... Yeah, but they still like this.
So, you know, getting past that, like, you know, just persevering, you know, having some tenacity involved as well.
It's required.
You got to have thick skin in Milwaukee.
Yeah, that's for sure.
Matthew, let's get back to you.
You once stated that your early band played a lot of originals compared to covers.
In Milwaukee and around Wisconsin, I know that's sometimes a tough sell.
Tell us about your cover song ratio there and what challenges you have with original music and maybe how that's different today.
Yeah, so it's still the same.
Somewhere between 75 to 50 percent covers, depending on the venue.
You get some venues, sports bars come to mind, they're going to want to hear something that they, you know, so it's not like I don't play the game.
We also do renditions of covers.
I try to put my own spin on things.
They don't try to be an impersonator.
I try to play things that people recognize, but still with a, you know, my flavor on top of it.
And as far as like the trials and tribulations of being an original musician in a very cover heavy, at least at the local level scene is, I mean, I guess you could only imagine it.
There's nothing against cover bands.
I love cover bands.
I play cover songs, but I wish there was a little more support for the original scene.
Yeah.
You know, especially well, artists who are like yourself, you know, out there,
this
is your,
this is your job, right?
Yeah.
And Marshall touched on it.
Like when he was doing the open mic, there's so much talent.
There's so many writers and they don't get the opportunities that I think, you know, it's like, do you, do you want to be like a music and drinking to the music kind of city?
Or do you want to like start like a Nashville, Austin, like, you know,
a
scene?
Well, right, you know, I think it comes down to sometimes whether the people in the city are willing to give their.
you know, creative subjectivity to your music.
Yeah.
Instead of putting their pool stick down and saying, play that George
Zero.
I'm kind of taking myself out of it.
I'm just speaking about original music.
I mean, in fact, in the 90s, there was bands like the Violent Femmes, the Guffs, little blue crunchy things.
There was an original scene in the 90s that seems to have dissipated a little bit.
It's kind of disappointing.
Well, we hope it comes back for sure.
Matthew.
Let's get back to you live music from the Mad City with Matthew Hayfield, presented by the Aaron Weber group.
The next song you have for us tonight, it's called Wonder, and it's from your first album, Rhythm Ethics, and I wonder if this song is about wondering.
It's got these cracks, eh?
I'm good.
Oh, it's good.
Yeah, specifically, it's wondering about someone's true intentions, what's behind the facade that they put up, you know, like trying to understand if...
You know, what's behind the mask, I guess.
All right.
Perfect.
Well, let's check it out.
This is Matthew Haiflo and his band.
This is Wonder.
You're listening to Live From the Man City on Max Inc
Radio.
She keeps her high beneath her I thought so I was the underwear lock and people She keeps those eyes, those eyes thin Doesn't wanna even let them be blind She keeps her high forever But doesn't wanna let anyone see and I'm lying down But she's thinking
complications, the dead end to fall, but where she's been, oh, she never compromises, the warehouse is even through the gym, oh, and all that frustration, the people are locked way inside and, and all that frustration, boiling up, way inside, and I wonder what she's thinking.
Just...
She's thinking, and if she's thinking of me
than the way it's done making me gay.
Give me the down, I do not want to go away.
Give me the up, but I don't want to
stay.
Yeah, Matthew Haefel, all the way here from Milwaukee.
That is his song, Wonder.
You're listening to Live from the Mad City on Maxync Radio.
Well, hey, let's give the drummer some Brandon Anthony.
How did you get started playing music?
And what's your
backstory?
Simply similar to Marshall's.
So pots and pans when I was younger, like two or three from there started.
playing in church.
Shortly after, my mom sings, my dad played trumpet and drums and his brothers all played too.
So just kind of history repeating itself.
I had a mentor, Dr. Abe Casares, like awesome, awesome teacher, just world music really, like percussion, drums and kit.
Then from there, schooling, middle school, high school, jazz band, jazz combo, marching band, everything.
You know, wow.
Then just like my own bands, punk bands, rock bands, heavier stuff, fusion stuff.
Just basically indulging myself in everything,
man.
Now tell us about, you have a little Clyde Stubblefield story.
Yeah, it was a cool experience.
I had a drum off experience years back and I was a...
I was winning that round, and Clyde was judging, and it was just a humbling experience, man.
It's amazing to meet somebody that's on such a high level of talent and music in the industry.
What was your maybe one takeaway from meeting Clyde?
Did he say anything you took with you?
Honestly, him just reassuring me in what I'm doing, but also just...
It's almost like he was trying to teach me the lesson of, like, patience, maybe.
Like, and just kind of, like, you know?
Like, you have to go through some things to get to the things.
That's
right.
Wow, that sounds like Clyde for sure.
Oh, well, very cool.
And what bands have you played around in Milwaukee with?
I think you actually played in one of the open jams at the Up and Under 2.
Definitely.
So I was with Misha Siegfried.
We played too.
We hosted for a little bit and then it's also just been like My old bands lost in a name from like high school.
So like heavier stuff and then there was also Which doctor which was like a later project is kind of like a think of like a Jimi Hendrix kind of fusion like a hot take on that and then
it
was Yeah, man, just just kind of the things that I just really like I I tried to
Put myself in the position that you know be there and be present for it because I think that like being a well-rounded musician is It's better than being you know, just that that one track mind
Now how did Marshall and Brandon how did you guys hook up with Matthew over here?
Yeah, actually through the open mic Matt came in and it's kind of just recruiting people and yeah, yeah, he kind of just found us and
you know through word of mouth because the scene is pretty it's pretty tight knit and where it was back in the early 2010s and stuff but like the scene was really tight knit and everybody kind of was like working with each other trying to figure out who to play with and yeah we just get he gave me a shot and I kept on coming
Sounds like that the up and under was really the the anchor down there on Brady Street probably helped create a lot of bands
for a certain group.
Yeah, a certain network of people.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a band called soulful moments that came out of there.
There's Sam Harvey soup came out of there.
Yeah, a bunch of bands came out.
Wow, that's pretty cool.
Well, we're glad you came out to Madison.
Thank you.
We don't get much Milwaukee out here.
So
we appreciate the opportunity.
Well, let's get back to live music from the man city with Matthew Hayfield presented by the Aaron Weber group.
The next song you have for us tonight is called Boys Been Locked Up.
It's unreleased.
Talk about this song.
Yeah, I wrote this one back in college and basically it's about all the little things that pile up to get in the way of your day Frustrating you not that you can't do them like you succeeded all of them like you got to mow the lawn and you got to do the chores
Yeah, you need a little money and
like but it's all all that little stuff that piles up and you just feel like Overwhelmed sometimes.
I think we can all relate to this.
Oh, I can't
for sure Very cool.
Let's hear it boys been locked up.
This is Matthew Hayfield live from the Mad City on Max Inc.
video.
Wish it would These clowns cover for me The give-it's just as I can always use against me But yeah, so I don't have to keep on guessing Finding reasons to keep obsessing All it should, all I could ever All I know, what it would
All I know, but it would
Just know you tangled up with you Just know, just know
Boy has been locked up again.
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Welcome back to Live from the Mad
City on Max Inc Radio.
My name is Rocker here with Jane in the control room.
And we're here with Matthew Haefel tonight.
Drabba here from Milwaukee.
PlayForce Live right here in the studio with this three-piece band, Marshall and Brandon and Matt.
And Matt, to celebrate your 25 years of performing professionally, you are considering a deep cuts anniversary album that will include live unreleased material and you must just have a giant backlog of songs, I'm imagining.
Yeah, there's about 150, wrote more than that, but those are the ones that stayed, you know.
any timetable on when that's coming up.
No, in fact, you just told them about the idea.
They don't
even know.
Oh boy.
We'll talk about it later.
They heard it right here
first.
Yeah, they're like looking around like, whoa, what's going on?
I didn't hear about this.
Indistinguishable
secret.
The other day, a friend of mine, Matt Cook, who actually helps us book shows and stuff, he just
reminded me it's gonna be 25 years and oh we should do something I got all kinds of unreleased stuff we could you know do something
right I mean you must have an incredible backlog of cat of stuff because we'll talk about your strategy of having a network of musicians you call the rotating collective
yeah I don't know if it's strategy or necessity but
I had bands with members.
People have jobs, families.
They can't gig out as much as I wanted to gig out.
Yeah.
So it was just easier to get a bunch of really good, talented people able to improv, come up on stage.
I mean, this is, you know, about six drummers, bassists, keyboardists, each, right?
So it was like 12 to 18 people in the rotation over time.
Some people have moved away, some are... Sure.
Yeah.
But it's mostly necessity.
And thank God, again, like Marshall said earlier, Milwaukee's got a wealth of talent to draw from.
Wow, that's pretty cool.
How many times do you play out a week, would you say?
In the summer, three to four, I mostly focus on the summer now.
The winter is more for writing and getting ducks in a row, fixing equipment, et cetera.
Putting out
anniversary
albums.
Yeah, just staying homes because you don't want to drive in a blizzard.
Yeah.
All right.
So I'm wondering, how do you keep track of everybody?
How do you go about scheduling?
What's your admin doing?
I
don't know.
I should probably have a system, shouldn't I?
I should probably get a
system.
I'm thinking I'm thinking 1500 gigs, multiple, you know, networked musicians.
It's like every season, you know, like it actually started now about a month ago.
They start some venues will start booking for next year and you just put them down on the on the schedule one by one.
And that's it.
No real system, I should get a system, huh?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Well, let's get back to live music from the Mad City with Matthew Haifel presented by the Aaron Weber group.
The next song that you have for us tonight is called, uh, Didn't I?
Talk about this song before you play it.
Yeah,
Didn't I is, uh, uh, you can make a lot of plans, you can have expectations, and just about every time you walk into the actual situation, it's nothing like you thought it was gonna be.
That's kind of what this is about.
Well, let's check out.
Didn't I?
You're listening to Matthew Hayfield live from the Man City on Max Inc Radio.
They good alibi Going through the ages and feeling like I'm wasting my time Going through the ages and catching all the faces behind And I'm tired as it is Maybe slipping off a bed Just keep calling for these texts And you take me home Switched watch or else come clean, we're all alone
There's no more time Casting the corner a little more than I wanted to know Casting the corner, stretching from there to there Oh, and there's nothing much to do Can't go down with you
Isn't it true that I fell right into?
Wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I be good at all that I buy?
Isn't it true that I cut you when you going through the meters and feeling like I'm wasting my time?
Going through the places that kept you know the traces behind And I'm tired as it is And I'm feeling like a clown
more than I want it to know.
Catching the corner, sketching from there to there.
Hayflin is banned all the way from Milwaukee right here and live from the Mad City on Maxing Radio.
Matthew, you made a video recently with handmade stop stop animation and it's a tribute to gigging musicians called Climb.
Talk about the video and how we can see it online.
Yeah, I actually made it.
I started back in 2010, and... That long ago?
Yes.
I'll tell you why.
Okay.
So I'm making out of Legos.
And I thought I had this genius idea, right?
And I don't know if you know, but the first Lego movie was 2010.
Like, I'm literally in the living room making my little Lego video
as I
see
the
trailer for the major Lego Batman movie or whatever it was.
And so I felt like a like a corporate hack or something right like stealing this idea
Did you ever see that a white stripes video fell in love with?
Oh,
no, there was Dave Matthews.
There's like almost everybody was doing Lego videos Yeah, like what happened.
Yeah, and so I finally, you know, I feel like it's been long enough.
I don't know I had all this footage so I used it
Yeah,
and the song itself isn't two gigging musicians, but the the
The pictures, the footage is like from start to finish a show, like arriving, setting up.
Oh, yeah.
Getting paid just a penny.
Yeah.
Or one Lego.
There's a drunk dance
in there, you know.
Wow.
So stop animation.
So you're just like putting together.
Oh god, it took me two years.
It took me two years.
Putting a lot together and then take a picture of it and then.
Three to five thousand photos.
Wow.
Oh god, yeah.
I was so disappointed when that movie came out.
So, I mean, I'm trying to imagine this.
Do you have like a place in your house where you were like,
don't touch this?
Yeah, I had to figure it out.
Like I had to dust it, like, you know, for two years.
I was sitting in the living room and I had to come up with my own way.
Like this is a little before Green Street screen became so easy to do.
I mean, people nowadays don't understand how easy green screen is now back in the day.
So I did actual photos and I printed them out and I made this little set.
of the Legos from when I was a child.
It was, I was kind of proud of it till that movie came
out.
And the video, it's called Climb, and it's on YouTube.
Yes.
So you can search it out, Matthew Hayfield.
Yeah, or hayfield.com.
You can get to the videos there too.
We should spell that.
That's H-A-E-F-F-E-L.
Correct.
Hayfield.com for you out there with pencils.
You want to get that down?
Matthew Hayfield can be found around Wisconsin playing in Theansville.
Village Market on September 29th, and the Nice Ash Cigar Bar in Waukesha on October 2nd, and the Art Bar in Milwaukee on October 16th.
Do you get a big Stokey as part of your pay when you play the cigar
box?
Yeah, you wish.
I don't even think we get discounts.
What?
No, we get drinks, if that counts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sometimes I get a hookah.
No.
Nice.
We'll talk about playing around Wisconsin.
Where's your favorite place to play?
Oh, oh my.
Well, I hate to
pick favorites.
I'll be forgetting people.
Where do you really like to?
We were just at a place called Classics in Chano last week.
Was that last week, two weeks ago?
That's a great place.
They just love music up there.
A little small town.
The people are great.
Nice.
That's just a good place.
Jim and
Linda's
pretty good place.
Jim and Linda's, that's
in Malone.
Yeah, on Lake Winnebago.
Oh yeah.
TJ's is another place across that lake.
Deja Vu, Martini Lounge is a good place in Appleton.
See, now I'm feeling bad because I know there's people out there going, why didn't you mention me?
Well, that's great.
You do a lot of playing that it sounds up in the Fox Valley.
Yeah, a lot in Fox Valley.
Also, Racine Madison, we were in Stoughton this year for their little gazebo thing.
Oh,
yeah.
We were in Wanaki earlier in the year.
Yeah.
Anywhere that'll
have me.
Oh, very cool.
Well, now people have heard you out here in Madison.
So hopefully if they hear Matthew Hayfield is coming around, they'll be like, man, that's really good stuff.
I heard it on Max Inc.
radio.
That's
right.
Let's get back to live music from the Mad City with Matthew Hayfield, presented by the Aaron Weber group.
The next song that you have for us tonight is called What I Found.
Is this a song about a Google search?
Man
you guys think it's um this throws me off every time you do it Like no this is actually about existential dread You can create or destroy meaning it like trying to find it is a
fruitless task because you can create it on your own.
And so there's a line in here that the reason for living is to grow old.
It's kind of like a flippant remark.
I'm like, calm down, everybody, you know.
Wow.
Taking stride one day at a time.
One day at a time.
What I found you're listening to Matthew Hayfield live from the Mad City on Max Inc Radio.
Feels like I'm being used to yourself and abused Both neglected and do often confused Feels like I've been let down and I've been tossed around Both neglected and do often confused No, it's coming up roses, maybe four leaf clovers for you
It's what I found.
It feels like I've been let down and I've been tossed around.
Both neglected and too often confused.
No, it's coming down and coming round and playing these same old games.
Maybe sold to markets they haven't sold.
This rubber ceiling doesn't help at all.
Honey
down and coming round and playing the same old game.
Letting them go but I just can't get through the rules and the tools and spices you use for me.
Just come and I've got talent.
Oh, oh, did you find that the reason for living is to go home?
Yeah.
Matthew Aful right here on Live From the Mad City on Maxink Radio.
Matthew, so
You had a album in 2010, I think Rhythm Ethics.
And then now you just released an album in 2025 with that 2010 to 2025.
Boy, that's a lot of time.
15 years.
Tell us about the hiatus and what you've been doing in there.
You built a studio.
That's right.
So that's the main reason was to maximize creative time to work on something instead of being on a clock and, you know, getting
by the hour on the clock, I wanted to build my own studio.
And man, it took a lot longer than I thought it would.
You know, on a musician's salary, basically I could buy like one thing a year, like a drum set or Pro Tools or, you know.
And then I had to learn how to work it all, you know.
which I didn't want to rush into, and I want to take my time.
We started actually recording 2019, and I don't know if you heard what happened in 2020, but it kind of got put on hold for a couple years.
We remember the masks.
Oh, yeah.
Wow, that's pretty cool.
Well, tell us about your newest album, Tenacity.
Sure.
The the basic idea behind it was I love the juxtaposition of Something awful coming and making something good How do I explain there's a song called sheltered by ruin on the album and it's about the city of Pompeii that was covered by the volcano And if you're ever lucky enough to be there you stand there and it's it's so beautiful like even though all the
people are there and it's crowded.
There's some kind of serenity and stillness about it and, you know, the moss growing on the rocks and just this beauty out of this ruin, right?
And so every song kind of has this theme of like things are bad, but persevere or, you know, I wonder what she's thinking, but, you know, get on with it.
And then there's a double meaning to it, because as I'm making this album and I'm coming up with this, I don't know, it's not really a concept album, but it's an idea.
It's a theme, I guess.
I step back and I say, you know what, this exactly mirrors my own career as 25 years, gigging out.
You know, I've had PAs blow up on me.
This last June, I cut myself.
The listeners won't see it, but I'll show rocker here.
See that, where that string
is rubbing on
my finger?
I sliced that in a food processor, like a cinnamon.
He can vouch for me.
I was playing with that thing for a month.
I've had to break into my own car to get to the next show.
You know, just all these little things, tenacity.
That's it.
Tenacity.
Confidence in your own ability and perseverance
is all
you'll ever need.
And a little bit of stupid.
Oh, that puts a top on it.
Matthew Haefel, how do we hold you online?
How do we follow you?
Haefel.com is the best way you can get to all the social media from there.
You can get to videos, shows, et cetera, et cetera.
Well, we have time for one more song here and live from the Mad City with Matthew Hathill, presented by the Aaron Weber group.
The last song you have for us tonight is unreleased and it's called Jazz Up.
Talk about that tune and play it out.
Yeah, so Jazz Up is... People are short on kindness and the cynicism that could follow that.
Like you get upset because people aren't doing...
respectful things.
And then, so then there's the line in the song, it says, I'm going to ride this cloud around like, you know what?
I'm just, I'm checking out.
I'm just going to deal.
Ride the cloud around.
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Bassist, singer, songwriter, and band leader Christine Mode brings a fearless mix of indie rock, blues, soul, and punk attitude to the stage as Miss Christine, a Berkeley College of Music graduate.
Christine's toured internationally and worked as a national session bassist before releasing albums.
And now, based in Cambridge, Massachusetts, Mrs. Christine describes their sound as punk rock duo pairing jubilant performances with songs that challenge expectations around gender, identity, and sexuality.
Their award-winning Google University video appeared at film festivals around the world and currently
writing a third album planned for 2027.
Miss Christine was in town earlier today, performing at Vegan Fest.
And tonight, Miss Christine plays at the Mickey's Tavern on Willy Street.
Miss Christine, welcome to Max Inc Radio.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm so happy to be back in Madison.
Now, tell us about playing Vegan Fest earlier today.
And what was the most interesting food you tried or saw?
You know, we're a foodie city here in Madison.
I love the food here.
It was amazing to be at Vegan Fest.
That was my first time ever playing at Vegan
Fest.
And I walked out with the most sweets possible because I'm a big sweet tooth, but I was most surprised by the Vegan Dubai chocolate.
That's like the viral sensation.
And they had a vegan version, which we're going to dive into after our show tonight.
That sounds good.
Well, you know.
How did you get started playing music?
I mean, what's your backstory?
Well, I started on the clarinet and then piano.
But when I was 12, I started playing bass.
And I played my first show when I was 12.
And I've been hooked ever since.
And now it's been over 20 years.
And I just can't stop, I guess.
Wow.
Is this what you do professionally?
Yeah.
What was your parents role in your musical upbringing?
Oh man, as soon as I wanted to be in bands, my parents were nothing but supportive and my dad went out and bought a sound system to run sound for my band and he booked our first tour all around Iowa because that's where I'm from is Iowa.
So we were playing car shows and all kinds of
little community events.
And it was so much fun.
And I'm so grateful for my parents support.
Wow, that's incredible.
I think their parents are, you know, really some of the most important people in people's musical upbringing.
That's why we ask every time, because, you know, got to give it to the parents, right?
For sure.
And my parents are not musical at all.
So we don't know where it comes from and where I got it from.
But yeah,
no record collection or anything.
Well, my dad loves the 60s and 70s rock.
So that's where my influence comes from.
But yeah.
Oh, interesting.
Well, talk about getting into and attending the Berkeley School of Music.
Yeah.
So I graduated over 12 years ago now, um, but it was always my dream.
I grew up in a really small town in Iowa and I really wanted to go and learn as much as I could about the electric bass.
And so I really dreamt big and I got into Berkeley and I actually graduated, which is rare.
Um, but I have a degree in electric bass performance and I've been performing ever since.
Maybe you do a
lot of jazz out there.
I avoided it as much as I could.
I had to take class my last semester though to graduate.
But I was doing all kinds of other things like Latin and R&B and pop and stuff like that.
Did you get to form some bands around Berkeley with like?
Some of your some of your students are people there.
Oh, yeah, the my first band was called Aris and the guitarist of that band is actually the guitarist on Saturday Night Live now.
Oh, wow.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, that's pretty cool.
There's all kinds of cool people I went to school with.
Well, what was this?
You know, what was the scene like?
And I mean the music scene here is awesome and we're a university have a great music, you know here at the university, but Berkeley
That's a school of music.
What's the music scene like around in the city where that school is?
It's Cambridge,
right?
It's in Boston.
And I moved back to Boston three years ago now.
So it ebbs and flows a lot because it is a college town, but there is a good music scene there and a lot of artists that are, you know, Massachusetts based and local.
And so when I was in college there, I got connected with the music scene outside of the Berkeley bubble is what we call it.
And there's a great music scene there.
Would you say like.
You know, how is this scene?
I always wonder about scenes like basically like cover bands versus original music.
What do you see out there?
I mean, there's definitely both, but I'm in the original music scene for sure.
But yeah, I teach private music lessons and a lot of my students play in like Yacht Rock bands or different kinds of cover bands, but there's a lot of great original music there.
Oh, that's pretty cool.
I'd love to go there someday.
Talk about starting your current band, Miss Christine.
Yeah, well, I've been performing under the name of Christine for 16 years now.
And so this is like the new iteration of it.
But tonight, we have Tony Andrews on drums, who flew in from Atlanta to play agro Hernandez from Des Moines, Iowa is on guitar, and then Ali Hicks, who is based in Boston with me is on keys and vocals.
And so we've been playing together
for the last, in the 2020s.
So it ebbs and flows and changes all the time, but this name has been around for a long time and I've just keep doing this.
Cause it's a lot of fun.
Nice.
And tonight you're playing at Mickey's Tavern and it's all part of the queer joy tour around the Midwest.
Talk about queer joy and tell us how your tour is going so far.
Tour is great, and we wanted to name this tour the Queer Joy Tour because Iowa, where I'm from, my home state was the first state to repeal gender identity from the Civil Rights Act.
And so I'm gender queer.
I'm also asexual.
My bandmates are queer.
And right now, when all of these...
Forces are trying to repeal laws to make it so people like me don't have a voice.
We want to be a voice because there's so much joy in being queer.
And so we've been having great time seeing people in Ames in Iowa City.
And last night we were in Chicago and we're so stoked to be.
in Madison tonight.
Where do you head
after here?
And tomorrow we'll be in Minneapolis and then we'll be in Pittsburgh on Wednesday.
Whoa, Minneapolis to Pittsburgh, that's a drive.
It's a little bit of a drive.
Same with Madison to Minneapolis.
Four hours.
Yeah, yeah, well, Pittsburgh, that's got to be at least 14.
A little bit more, but.
I was being nice, I was being
nice.
Oh man, and you're playing Mickey's tonight.
How excited are you to play that bar?
I mean, that's like an underground bar in Madison.
I'm so excited.
I've had nothing but the best times playing in Madison.
I've been touring through here since 2019, actually 2018.
And it's always so much fun.
It's great to be back.
And of course, the food is great, as you mentioned earlier.
And the bands we're playing with tonight, The Golf Dolls, Rat Cemetery, and Super Brick, super pumped to share the stage with them.
And it's just going to be a great time.
And there's going to be lots of queer joy.
I'm just so stoked to be here.
And Mickies, well, they have great food.
And you were saying that you come here and play the Whisco often.
And of
course, they're famous for the Whisco burger, right?
I love going there.
Now, I heard that you're premiering some new songs on tour.
Yes, we've been performing or premiering three new songs.
And it's been really fun to play new music again because this tour is also joyful because we're taking a little
break outside of our writing, because we've been working on this new record since February.
And so it's nice to finally play this music in front of people, and it's been really fun.
Are you in the studio recording already?
No, we'll be going down.
Still writing?
Yeah, and we'll be going down to Nashville in November.
Oh,
nice.
So you
record in Nashville?
Yeah.
And then we can find, can we find your music online?
Yeah, if you go to mischristinemusic.com, it's all there.
Okay.
That sounds great.
What's coming up for Miss Christine and how do we keep track of you online?
What was your website again?
MissChristineMusic.com.
Okay.
And tour album, when can we expect that?
Sometime in 2027.
That's like the dreaded question.
When is it going to come out?
When's the album artwork done?
We had to record it first, but it'll be out next year sometime and I cannot wait for new music.
Yeah.
And now we just heard some music.
How new are the songs that we heard?
So the songs you're hearing are from my second album.
It came out in 2023.
That album is called Bitter Sweet.
So you heard the song Can't See.
And the next song will be called Love With You.
And yeah, we've been playing those songs live the last three years.
So it's time for some new music.
And you can hear some tonight at Mickey Stavren.
Oh, that's awesome.
Tell us about this song.
Love you tonight, or what was it
called?
Love with you.
Love with you.
Tell us about that song, cause we're gonna listen to it in just a few seconds.
Well, it just, I feel like it's a good embodiment for the queer joy tour.
You can't love someone until you learn to love yourself.
And so...
I learned to love myself and it's been amazing, the people that that's brought into my life and it's brought me so much queer joy.
So I thought that was a good closing note for the song.
Perfect.
Well, thank you so much for coming back to Wisconsin and hopefully we'll see you when you come back through.
Yeah.
And
send some new music when it's out, right?
We
will.
I'll
give you the email address.
Awesome.
And let's check it out right now.
This is Miss Christine.
Love
with
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