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We're going to talk about, let's see here, what's going on here.
There is a huge news coming out of the brewers organization.
The Packers have lost someone, have kept someone and
They're still not in the Super Bowl so sorry, but the bear's loss of that might bring you some comfort I don't know and then at the end of the show to wrap it up It's a little bit of advice from Greg from me to you if you are looking for Weight loss drugs just a little heat a little advice to heed a warning to take in but that's later on the show but right now
We're going to move on to our next guest.
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Thespian lawyer, former US attorney, Mr. Jim Santel.
He's a man who wears many hats and he looks good in hats.
Good
morning, Jim.
I try.
I try as best I can to as like Harry Truman, right?
He was a Haberdasher, right?
And so we'll continue in that good vision.
Greg always good to be with you and to talk about some of these.
Again, still breaking things coming out of Washington, other places around our country.
It seems like a lot of things are breaking.
Yes, like a lot.
So yeah, but well, let's start it with the US Supreme Court.
There was, there was opening statements yesterday.
Yesterday, uh, uh, John Sauer was speaking to the justices.
Tell us about what was happening and what, what we're going to be looking at as far as a possible decision from the court come later this year.
All right.
So once again,
the issue of how much power a president should have back on the docket yesterday, as you indicated, for oral argument.
And it didn't go especially well for the government, which is not entirely surprising.
This one had to do, as Greg, you and I and others on civic media have talked, this had to do with the attempted firing by the president of Lisa Cook.
Remember
her?
She's
the Federal Reserve governor, and she is still there because the Supreme Court declined to support the president.
initially.
Now we're back on the docket as of yesterday, determining whether or not what her position is, whether or not she should be fired permanently.
And it appears that the Supreme Court is very reluctant to go along with the president's proposal here.
Among the other stunning things that this particular oral argument revealed is you've got the Solicitor General of the United States of America.
His name is John Sauer.
We've
heard from him before.
He's also the one who advocated for this president when he was a private citizen for presidential immunity.
And John Sauer, again, third and
at the Department of Justice.
Got up in from the Supreme Court yesterday when he was asked, well, gee, what about due process?
What kind of due process should Ms.
Cook get?
She has been advised for rights as she had an opportunity to contest those.
And the answer comes back from John Sauer, the Solicitor General.
Well, this is all done on social media.
And we know that the president said that Cook must resign now, 30 minutes after this fellow named Bill Pute was from a federal housing finance agency talked about this mortgage issue.
And again, we're apparently now litigating in America.
off of social media.
The court was very concerned about the due process aspects there.
Certainly Fed independence, that's the big one, right?
We always think about that.
This is an institution created to be independent for all sorts of economic reasons.
Lots of concern about that, including from some fairly conservative justices.
Just a question again about whether or not they should be doing any of this on the emergency application docket, which is really where this
from once again, fairly likely that they're going to send this back down to some lower courts to figure out what this is all about, kind of prematurely there.
And in the end, Greg, I was pleased by the fact that the Supreme Court was not apparently going to give Donald Trump exactly what he wanted here, but it's also a reflection of something equally important, which is,
We've got incompetence right
now
going on at the highest levels of government.
And I think a number of the Supreme Court justices, again, including some of the conservatives, we're looking at this and saying, what are we doing here?
When Sam Alito and Brett Kavanaugh are concerned about process and just don't like this and razor thin records is what they refer to.
You've got a problem here.
And that's your Department of Justice once again, being incompetent.
So probably good news.
whenever this happens.
Lisa Kokelys for now will probably keep her job recognized.
However, there's still this other case out there involving the FTC and Ms.
Slaughter, Supreme Court probably will permit the president to fire her.
And again, what's going on here, right?
How can you reconcile those things?
You really can't.
Well, how can you guys, I guess I would ask your expert opinion on this is that
what, why good for one and not good for the other.
And, and from what the news was reporting, Ben Bernanke and Jerome Powell are both in the seats yesterday watching this go down.
Uh, Ben Berman Bernanke, former, uh, Fed chair and Jerome Powell current Fed chair, because we're talking about the, the
the president's ability to fire these individuals.
And now what he's just doing to Jerome Powell is he's going to prosecute him apparently.
But I guess the question I have that I tried to ask seven years ago, which is why good for one and not good for the other?
And that's exactly what people like Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor and Angie Brown Jackson were asking, that if we've created all these federal agencies, and again, your listeners know this, we've got federal agencies intended to be independent.
Why?
Because they do important things like,
oh, I
don't know, securities regulation, the SEC, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, all kinds of important things, and the Federal Reserve.
establishing economic policy, right?
You don't
want any of that hooked into politics.
That's the reason why Congress said we're creating them.
Yes, presidents can appoint governors and board members, but independent.
You don't have authority to tell them what to do.
And if that applies here, and again, the question you raise as a head scratcher, why shouldn't it apply across the board?
We haven't yet seen the FTC case involving Rebecca Slaughter, but maybe.
just maybe this argument yesterday may have prompted some of the justices to go back and ask that question again.
Gee, if we're gonna give Lisa Cook permission rightly to stay in her position, and she's a part of an independent agency, why are we letting the president fire Rebecca Slaughter also a part of an independent agency?
There are some variations you can point to, but there really isn't a good defining principle here.
Maybe, just maybe.
Supreme Court comes out and says, listen, independent agencies, those mean something.
Mr. President hands off.
Which has been nothing but an attack since he got into office on the checks and balances, separation of power, all those things put forward to.
to really instate the unified executive theory that they've been trying to do for a very, since long before Donald Trump, but they've got their best shot with this guy.
And it's been working because they have the courts on their side as well.
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Cindy, good morning.
How are you today?
Hey, Cindy.
Good morning.
Hey, Jim.
Hey, I was wondering if this was a topic maybe you'd want to do a show on.
I'm wondering what the Comstock rule and the lemon test are all
about.
Yeah.
Other Supreme Court principles, I think you need to be a part of either instruction or maybe you need to be part of a law school, Cindy, so we can chat about that.
Important concepts and again, all of these things, these kinds of concepts created by the Supreme Court, and yet they've been traditions, right?
And they've been principles.
We've seen this, a President's Supreme Court take big swings at a whole bunch of longstanding principles like that.
Let's, Greg, let's put that on our
our list
and we'll
get back to that.
Lots of good stuff to explore there.
I appreciate the great recommendation, Cindy.
Well, and another thing coming in, this is Scotus adjacent, if you will, a story that came out that a Doge team member misused social security data, which was given to them by the Supreme Court.
And there are some questions here.
So can you talk more on that?
Absolutely.
Back in the summertime, once again,
The emergency docket, the shadow docket, comes up to the Supreme Court and the president says, we've got to be able to print the team, the Musk team, to get into all these agencies, including social security administration.
The rules, of course, of that from the time it was created, decades and decades ago, say, hands off.
It is private information.
It does have medical information
in
addition to just numbers there.
And the Supreme Court says, no, no, you can go ahead in a one sentence order.
the Chief Justice says they can be permitted, SSA can permit them access to these materials.
Well, the dissenting justices say, wait a minute, you're opening this up again, they basically say to the 22 year olds, and who knows what will happen here?
Sure enough, as you just indicated, Greg, appears that two members of the team may have reached out to an advocacy group that's seeking to overturn the election results in certain states, may have provided some information there.
We've got a top
Justice official yesterday was Elizabeth Shapiro saying that there were there plainly were some disclosures here.
And we need to figure out exactly what was done here over and beyond just looking at the information to provide more a greater sense of of efficiency, which is what the Musk team's purpose was all about.
Apparently one of them may have signed an agreement that may have involved social security data to match state voter rolls.
wild, right?
And again, we don't, not to the bottom of this, but it's a little bit encouraging to know that at least somebody in the Department of Justice looks at this and says, this is not what we intended.
We'll see how this plays out.
And whether or not these two team members who have not been identified are going to be in some trouble down the road for, again, doing precisely what the dissenters in the Supreme Court said, which is disclosing information.
Why did you need this in the first place?
Well, it turns out that maybe they were using it for political purposes.
And Elena Kagan should be, again, out there today saying, I told you so.
This is what happens.
I told you.
Sturring
your tea going, hmm, amazing how that works.
Yeah.
The question I would have is, is this, you know, is this giving information?
Do people have a right to possibly sue under having their, their right to privacy violated handed
over by
the Supreme court to them, giving away private information.
I just feel like there's a, there is a, there's a place for a conversation on that matter, but we're going to keep talking more with Jim Santel here on the show.
He is the host of amicus, a law review.
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But that's all coming ahead and do not forget that today...
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So just pack accordingly, dress accordingly.
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You can find out more by going to civicmedia.us about the weather in your area.
But right now we are talking to Jim Santel.
He is a former U S attorney, currently a practicing attorney.
He is the host of amicus a law review, which is on every Saturday from nine AM to 11 AM.
And we're talking about all things.
law.
All the big stories coming out of the world of law.
And one of the big stories that came out this week was the dismissal of Lindsay Halligan, the very, very controversial figure in the Trump administration sent to do a mission that she failed at.
Lindsay Hale again, again, one of those folks that probably will be a footnote in history, but for her, this is tragic also, right?
She is a lawyer, she's an insurance lawyer, should never have been placed in this position in the first place.
This is one of those times when again, responsible public officials, when asked to do something for which they're not competent, should say, no, again, maybe you don't say that to this president, but she should have, and he got it just right, Greg.
Two judges this week,
again saying that she has to leave her post.
We need to go.
And
may
wonder, well, didn't we do this a member of a couple of months ago?
And the answer is yes.
And that had to do with the indictments of Letitia James and James Comey dismissed because she didn't have the authority and she stayed on.
She continued to show up in the office and signature block is still under hers.
The judges this week again saying she
President used an unlawful measure to install her, and she's got to go, so she's gone.
But again, it's low-level tragic in some way, just because, once again, it underscores the incompetence.
Maybe that's the theme of this morning's discussion between you and me.
One of the judges apparently along the way, again, maybe adopting a view from the governor of California about what he should do with the president, directed his clerk to post a help wanted ad.
for the U.S.
Attorney in Eastern Virginia.
Another said the early administration defense of Halogen, which was that, well, she couldn't indict these folks, but the judge said nothing about her removal, which is absurd, contains a level of vitriol.
More appropriate, this is the judge speaking for a cable news talk show than for a court of law.
Those are strong words, and it also again underscores, what is this administration doing?
This is not the only U.S.
Attorney position.
that has been troubled, where the U.S.
attorneys have had to leave.
It is a sort of circuitous way of getting U.S.
attorneys in place, but it's not impossible.
Do it right,
and
you won't have these problems.
In the meantime, we got U.S.
attorneys.
offices out there who, again, there are, there are interims and there are others who are taking the responsibility, but this is not a way to run a justice department.
This is probably the lowest level of incompetence that we have seen other things result in huge, huge dramatic problems for America.
Lindsay Hale again, maybe going back to the White House, we don't know.
But again, maybe closing this particular chapter on this craziness coming out of Eastern Virginia.
Well, and that, you know, you said that just now, 20
for our news network.
Earlier you said things are taking care of on social media and that's, but that's the.
point.
That's what they want.
They want, they want things that will get the clicks.
They will get the likes.
They want people who are going to the podium to say things that are controversial, fiery.
I mean, I mean, that's half the reason why Catherine Levitt has the job she has it because she speaks to the press the way they do.
And they have to take it for their various reasons.
But that it's not about qualifications.
And it just, you know, the question I've asked you this before, though, Jim, there has to be somebody out there who believes in this administration's goals, who has the ability to do this work.
And they're just not hiring.
them.
Instead, they're hiring these people that look more like Fox news correspondents and who have zero qualifications.
And she failed at her job.
This is like, this was a, this was a, she wanted, they wanted to prosecute Letitia James again, try this, just say they wanted to try to do it again.
They failed again.
And I'm just wondering, is this the end of this chapter or will they resurrect it maybe later this year or next year?
Because you don't,
She, she, let's just as James is persona non grata to the president.
So therefore he has to get his revenge.
Right, right.
And we've seen that again with Letitia James and with James Comey.
And if we mentioned the Federal Reserve Chair, others out there, Adam Schiff, even the former director of the FBI, all these people on this list.
In a normal circumstance, my friend, we would look to government and say, okay, learn your lesson from us.
Do not go after your political enemies.
Go after people.
Again, I say that using only the president's words, not ways prosecutors should be talking.
You pursue investigations.
You should be
prosecuting based upon the information, the facts, and the law, and making those determinations based upon the application of one to the other.
You don't do this based upon a list that you happen to be on because the president doesn't like you.
We'd like to think maybe that's the lesson coming out of this, but this is an administration that, again, tends to double down, as they say, and we'll see what happens as the weeks go forward.
Well, I mean, they are not learning their lesson because they want to go after Jerome Powell next.
I mean, there is no, there is no self-reflection here.
There's no time for looking back going, what did we learn today?
There's none of that.
They got to keep going to the next thing.
And the next thing is going to be sports after the news with Paul Noonan, who is a writer for the Acme packing company, talking about the Packers, talking about the Brewers, talking about the Bucks.
But right now, thank you so much, Jim Santel, for being here for today.
We appreciate your time as always.
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Battening down the hatches for what's coming tomorrow.
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I'm not getting into that.
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Well,
Big news out of the brewers organization where a couple of weeks from pitchers and catchers reporting, but some big trade news from the brewers.
And I don't know if anyone should like, I don't know if anyone should be surprised, shocked or upset, but tell us what the brewers decided to do with one of their biggest pitching names.
So no one should be surprised, but everybody's allowed to be upset.
So the
fair,
the brewers.
Yeah.
The brewers sent Freddie Peralta, their best pitcher bike.
quite a bit last year,
one of the
best pit, honestly, one of the best pitchers in franchise history that is both good for Freddie and not great with the franchise.
They sent him to the Mets along with Tobias Myers, a sort of underrated throw in who was their best pitcher two years ago, but who Pat Murphy does not seem to like.
And they got back prospects in return, that being Brandon Sprout and Jet Williams and two young guys.
The reason nobody should be surprised is Freddy Peralta has one year left on his contract, and the brewers almost always trade anybody of any value when there's only one year left on the contract, and they're going to have to pay up to that person in free agency if they want to keep them.
The brewers are not big spenders.
They're not as small as spenders as people often say they are.
The thing about this one is that I think rubs a lot of people the wrong way is they gave Freddie a very team-friendly deal about five years ago.
He's only making $8 million next year.
And while the brewers kind of keep their thing rolling by getting cost-controlled players back in trades like this, this has a pretty significant cost immediately for next year.
Freddie, in terms of
advanced metrics in terms of baseball.
He was like a five-win player, meaning not like wins and losses from the pitcher.
I mean, like they should be five wins worse without him than they were last year.
And they won a lot of games, but that's a big hit.
They don't have a lot of depth at starting pitching.
It's one of their weaker parts.
They're great at creating bullpen guys out of nothing.
They're less good at creating starting pitchers out of nothing.
And they got a few guys coming back like Logan Henderson and Gasser, but like,
This makes a pretty significant hole.
It makes the team worse.
I suspect the rest of the division is pretty happy that they did it.
And so that's why you can be mad about it.
No, they didn't get back nothing.
Brendan Sprote is a pretty good pitching prospect in his own right.
He.
dominated single and double A. He had some trouble at triple A last year.
But he will, there's a good chance he starts the season in the rotation.
He
throws high 90s.
He tops out about 98s.
His change up is good.
He needs some work on his breaking stuff, which is why he was getting roughed up a little bit.
But the Brewers are good at fixing that.
So it'll probably be okay.
And then Jet Williams is, the Brewers have a tight man.
And here's what it is.
They love little guys.
This team has more short people playing baseball for them than any other team.
A lot of tiny, grindy guys like Caleb Durbin.
He is a shortstop prospect.
He is 5'7".
He does not have great power, but he has good zone meta.
He walks a lot.
He walks a lot.
He can hit a couple of home runs.
He has probably top out around 10, 15 home runs.
He can play shortstop.
He can also play some center field, but he doesn't quite have the speed to be great at them.
They've got another little tiny grindy guy like Caleb Durbin to throw out there.
And they've got a pitcher who can maybe spot into the three-ish spot in their rotation, but you lost your ace.
So this is how the brewers do business.
Those guys are cost-controlled for many years into the future.
They're super cheap.
They'll be on the team for the next four to five years.
Hopefully, one of them turns into something more than he looks like right now.
But as it is, the brewers are without a star, and they do this kind of a lot.
And I will, I mean, I take comfort in the fact that this time last world night, this time last March, we were having this conversation of where we thought the brewers were going to go.
And we had middling expectations at best.
And they managed to rock it pretty hard until they hit the NLCS, of course.
But I mean, still it was an amazing season for them that no one expected.
So I, I trust the, the pitch at least the pitching staff to
look at their prospects and, and put together a rotation that will be good.
I mean, are there any, are there any perspective stars in your, in your mind of who can be that not a Freddy Peralta?
Cause no one's Freddie Peralta, of course, but just saying like, all right, here's the, here's a person we can put some trust in.
So they shouldn't be bad.
It's mostly, it's mostly like Peralta was very good last year.
You
know, you got Cy Young votes last year and that's harder to place, but like,
the account on like Jake Mizorowski taking a step forward
and
actually pitching more often, not getting hurt staying in the starting rotation doing that.
Logan Henderson looked very good last
year
until he got hurt and he'll likely be back as well.
They always have like guys who can kind of fill out the back of the rotation no matter what.
It's just like Quinn Priesters good, but I don't think he's going like he's not going to be
the star of a rotation anytime soon.
Chad Patrick is fine.
That's the thing.
Like they've got a lot of fine.
Yeah, everybody's fine.
Brandon Woodruff in his current incarnation is probably that's like what he is too.
But they don't unless Mr. Roskey takes a big step forward and pitches a lot more innings.
He's really the only really highlight guy they have.
Logan Henderson, I think can maybe be that guy, but he needs to add another pitch to his
his stuff too.
And like, we'll see if Gasser, Robert Gasser, uh, had to have time to, I don't even know if he's going to be back for the start of next season.
Um, he is probably their best peer prospect.
But
when guys come back from significant injury, never know what you're going to get out of them.
So that's what you're hoping for.
Well, we'll see, we'll see what comes in a few weeks because before we know it, they'll be, they'll be in Arizona warming up because that's what, that's what three weeks away from now, three weeks from now.
Yeah, it usually I usually think of it as Valentine's Day.
Okay.
Oh my gosh, even okay Well, we'll talk more about that in the coming weeks as far as spring training in Arizona for the Brewers, but let's move to the Packers The they lost one staffer they're keeping one on is anyone surprised about who they've kept on board for the job
So, you know, Matt will floor will be back.
Yeah, not yet disclosed, but he's coming back
But they did suffer a pretty significant loss.
Jeff Halfley is going to be the head coach of the Miami Dolphins.
He was their defensive coordinator and he is kind of a polarizing figure because the Packers defense is hard to actually quantify as to whether he did a good job or not.
Last year, before they got Michael Parsons, they were a top five defense with, I would say, not great talent.
This year,
With Parsons, they were kind of middling, and then when he went out, they were like the 28th best defense, which is not great.
Defensive coordinators are hard to quantify, generally speaking, but he doesn't have a huge track record for success, and it was kind of surprising that a team jumped on him so quickly, but Hathley is gone, so they do have to replace him going forward.
They have interviewed four people so far, the most noteworthy for Packer fans, the biggest noteworthy was probably Al Harris, who former Packer corner, former Packer, honestly former Packer, great.
Yeah.
He's currently with currently with the Bears and at a lower level position working for Dennis Allen.
But if nothing else.
The Bears led the league in turnovers created this past year, and that's an area where the Packers have struggled.
I personally think that's not something that you can really coach up.
Turnovers are mostly about the quarterbacks you face in a given year, the endability to catch the ball.
The Packers weren't great at, but Al Harris is a good one to keep an eye on and would be fun to have back.
I have no idea if he's a good coach or not.
I don't think anybody else does either.
Anybody who tells you differently is lying to you.
But he would be a good one to get.
I would say the best person they've interviewed so far.
But the worst person they've interviewed is Jonathan Gannon.
He used to be the head coach of the Cardinals and is not good.
Don't hire that guy.
Doronte Jones, the Minnesota Vikings pass game coordinator would be good.
That is a good pass defense.
But Christian Parker on the Eagles would be a good get.
They run a very similar scheme to what the Packers already run.
He is a Vic Fangio disciple We almost always hire somebody in that that tree of defensive coordinators The Eagles are a pretty creative defense and I like getting people from teams that do something out of the ordinary the Vikings are too problem with hiring the Vikings guys Their coordinators Brian Flores, they're having back.
He's the best defensive coordinator, but you can't learn to be Brian Flores He is just kind of a genius savant
and you
can only just be him
He just knows what he's doing better than anybody else.
Christian Parkers, who I'm rooting for, Al Harris would be fun.
There's another 10 guys out there that they might go for, but that's where the Packers are so far.
Do you think they're going to go and interview a lot of people, or do you think it's going to be these four or five and just make their decision?
Like, when do you expect a decision on this from the Packers organization on who they replace?
I think it'll be a little bit.
I actually think they'll have quite a few people in on this.
I think it's not a big favorite out there,
and there
are a couple of
weird outliers you can talk to too.
I think they'll take their time.
I bet they'll have another four or five guys in at least.
All right.
And in the last couple of minutes, like last week, the Bucks, they're just, it's, yeah.
You guys
always make me talk about the Bucks.
So, I mean, you don't have to if you don't want to.
I know a lot of
Bucks fans who don't want to talk about the Bucks, so.
The Bucks are coming off getting destroyed by the Thunder.
They
did, to their credit, have a two-point win over the Hawks the other day.
But the problem with the Bucks is, part of it is just a broken record.
The Bucks have no depth.
Um, to the extent the bucks were ever going to be good this year, they needed to have fantastic health out of their like six best players, only their five starters.
And outside of Yanis, that just hasn't happened.
They have a bunch of injuries right now.
Um, and the sign of a bad team in the NBA is one that, uh, wins squeaks by the wins that they get
and gets
destroyed in every other game.
And then it's, they're getting ripped, man.
Uh, I understand the booze that have happened.
Don't boo Yanis.
He's been great.
Yeah.
I understand why they're happening.
All right.
Well, that brings us to the end of another edition of sports talk with Paul Newton.
Thank you so much for being here.
Paul Newton is a writer for the acne packing company.
He's here every other Thursday.
Thank you so much, Paul.
Have a wonderful weekend.
Stay warm.
Yep.
You too guys.
Thanks.
All right.
When we come back, a little piece of advice from Greg.
If you're looking for weight loss drugs, be on the lookout for a scam out there.
I'm going to give you a little warning when we come back mid mornings on civic media.
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Now today, I want to, I saw a story.
This isn't so much that this shouldn't be a thing.
I mean, it shouldn't be a thing, but I think it's more of an important conversation piece because Calvin, I mean, you know, we all know
Weight loss drugs that are called GLP-1 drugs are a thing that are around, whether you're taking the Wigowi, the Osempic, Monahoro, I don't know.
They're ridiculous names, Calvin.
I don't understand why they come up with this.
But I wanted to say something that, if this is something that you've been interested in, something that you've talked to your doctor about, there is...
a scam going around right now.
According to the Better Business Bureau of Wisconsin, over 100 consumers have been targeted by online retailers claiming to sell drugs and similar alternatives across the US in Wisconsin.
Three consumers have reported losing several hundred dollars.
So basically what I want to tell you is that if you see something come into your email,
something that comes across maybe as an advertisement on social media saying, Hey, do you want to take, do you want to take Wagobi or Exempic, but you just can't afford it?
And we can sell you something cheaper.
Be on the lookout.
Don't fall for it.
Talk to your doctor.
That's very, very important.
Says scammers are taking advantage of high demand by marketing discounted off brand drugs and dietary supplements.
According to their scam tracker, which we've talked to Lisa Schiller about, one Wisconsin consumer reported losing
Almost $1,200 after purchasing a product she saw on Facebook.
So yeah We have discussed this over and over again about the products you see on social media They may not be the best and we're not just talking about quote discounted weight loss drugs We're talking everything from clothing to watches to whatever just always be very skeptical about what you see on social media that is for sale make sure that they are
You can check them out on the BBB.
You can check out their reviews on Google, on Yelp, wherever they get reviews, but just be very careful.
But in this situation, they are catching people on these, quote, discounted weight loss drugs.
So if you see something, say something, get in touch with the BBB, with the Better Business Bureau, report it, let them know because we have to keep this up and running.
If you got Emily in your life who was on social media a lot and might
could get hooked on this, just make them very aware as well, because it just, you don't want to be a part of this.
They said that it was tracked a series of popular weight loss scams from companies like Get Relief, Rx, Burn Slim, Courage, Rx Fittity, Green Vital, and Monha Burn that use AI generated content and false advertisement to promote products.
We'll put this story in
The show notes, that way you can especially be aware of these products that are out these product names.
The scams often promote weight loss products like Lipamax, Ozemburn and Prozenith and include fake photos and videos of doctors or stars like Oprah Winfrey speaking about GLP one arm patches and the quote.
pink salt trick.
That's the other thing Calvin people need, but they are AIing.
I saw Kelly Clarkson video where they AI'd her into talking about a pink salt trick diet that she's not a part of and it made it look like she was plugging it.
So just please be aware when you see these weight loss alternatives, these GLP one drugs that are quote discounted on social media, be aware, do your research, tell friends and family.
And if you are in the middle of something here,
talk to the better business bureau, report it so they know that you've been affected too.
But that is just a little tidbit, a little piece of advice from Greg as we close out the show.
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