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That's six minutes past 10.
I've never done that before, Calvin.
Never done that radio thing.
It's six minutes past the hour.
six minutes past the hour.
We got weather and sports coming up next.
We're on the show.
Calvin is on the boards right now.
Good morning, Calvin.
How are you today?
You know, I'm hanging in there.
You're hanging in there.
Why are you hanging in there, Calvin?
Is there any sort of thing that maybe happened?
No, not
in particular.
Okay.
Well, the reason why I say that is because we were supposed to have Melissa Gira grant on the show this morning to talk about her article.
regarding Chicago's neighborhood ice resistance in the New Republic.
I'm still going to put that in the show notes because I really believe that you should be reading this article.
It is fascinating.
She will not be on this morning.
Unfortunately, there was wires crossed.
I'm not sure, but maybe down the road we can have her.
And I wanted to talk, I'm going to talk a little bit about that article just from what I've read.
This again is in the new republic.
It's inside Chicago's neighborhood ice resistance and it's Chicago.
It's Illinois.
It's not Wisconsin, but you know what?
It's the United States and it is our neighbors to the south.
And we saw them last year be part of the effort from the Trump administration to be villainized and as a terribly horrible, awful, dangerous city, which sorry, just
Not true.
I mean, every city is dangerous.
Every town can be dangerous, but not to the degree where we're sending in ICE agents.
And just this article really talks about what they go through on a daily basis, what the neighborhood goes, what they, I should say, go through, but do to stand up for their rights.
And they are your rights.
And you are in full, full.
coverage when it comes to knowing what your rights are because one of the things they talk about in this article in the New Republic is that certain people in the federal government don't want you knowing your rights.
They don't want you being aware of how officers can approach you and conduct interviews and treat you.
Now, there will be the argument that they will do whatever they want with impunity and I understand that.
but that doesn't mean we don't know our own rights.
It doesn't mean we don't protect ourselves and our neighbors.
And trying to make it seem like one, it's illegal to talk about this, which in the article that covers this, that they were telling folks in the neighborhood, it's illegal to pass this information, to pass on information with regards to what your rights are.
That's how bad they want these deportations to happen.
It is happening at a staggering level in Chicago.
And the people of Southwest Chicago specifically are doing what they can to create real organization, real time reaction to whistles being blown, videos being taken, calls being made.
People can respond within minutes to a place and help protect those who might be in danger.
And this article here really
not only paints that picture well because I don't know about you, Calvin, and I don't know about anyone else listening on the live stream or listening on the radio, watching on the live stream.
The picture that was painted by the media was one, it was a consistent image, I believe.
We saw ice agents in the streets.
We saw people resisting.
We saw certain things happening like pepper bombs, pepper spray, that image of that
priest getting a, a pepper ball shot at his face.
Um, this article goes deeper into that because for everything we saw, there's so much more happening below the surface because the media can only say and do so much at a time.
And they might be, you know, if you, if you're a certain outlets, you might be forced not to talk about them.
I'm not going to say CBS out loud, but whoops.
But there's so much more to this.
the struggle than we are even seeing.
And one of the things that really stuck out for me that I wanted to talk to Melissa about is that it's not just about ice agents.
And this is to the Chicago experience.
I can't speak for any other city.
But it's not just ice and I'm quoting her article directly It's not just ice but also customs and border protection and other federal agencies such as the FBI and ATF tasked with arresting immigrants in neighborhoods like this one.
So it's not just a matter of these Jack booted thugs with masks and no identification doing what they want and treating people however they want and in the case of Minneapolis shooting someone in the head.
This is a matter of it's a bunch of agencies too and so
It's about the vigilance of these neighborhoods, the vigilance of these people who have jobs, by the way, the person that Melissa focuses on, this young woman named Lucy, she is on board to be, she's on shift, essentially.
And then she has to stop because she has to go to her day job.
So people are taking up all of their time to do this.
And I just wanted to briefly touch on that before we moved on.
and hopefully we can have Melissa on another time, or we can talk about this more with somebody else.
Because I think this is, I think, you know, when it comes to the knowing of your rights, I feel like a lot of people think they know their rights.
I'm included, I'm sure there's, I mean, there are nuances and little...
portions of, of what we can and do and say and versus what we cannot that I might not even be the most up to speed on.
And that might be something we want to talk about as far as, all right, lay it out.
What are your rights?
What can we do as citizens?
Because as we've seen the Trump administration is pulling ICE agents out of the major cities he deployed them to Los Angeles, DC and Chicago.
That doesn't mean it won't start again.
They're in Minneapolis right now.
It doesn't mean they won't come back.
It doesn't mean it can happen.
It doesn't mean it can happen to us.
Doesn't mean that they, I mean,
We have them here in Wisconsin and they're not just in Milwaukee.
We've talked about how they are in the rural areas too.
So it's about knowing our rights and how as a community we can come together and put together a plan that protects each other and make sure that we are always being treated as humans when we have individuals who seem to not care about that status.
Citizenry is not even a matter of discussion.
Now it's a matter of whether or not you're even a human in their eyes and that does not matter where you come from either in my
subtle and probably, as some might think, uneducated opinion, but that's what I feel.
The other thing too I just want to bring up from this article too is the brazen double standard.
That is how the federal government will tell people, you can't do this, you can't do that, you can't tell people about their rights, you can't tell people about where we are at, you can't do this.
The mayor has signed an order saying that the police cannot help ICE agents or this project at all.
It's called Midway Blitz, by the way.
They have to have a project name for everything.
It's called Midway Blitz.
The mayor has said that the Chicago police department is not allowed to work in concert or help them and that is not the case They are doing both and to me that also just speaks of a stunning and ridiculous double standard.
That is the fact that you know The federal government is telling these people these citizens Or non-citizens either it doesn't matter.
They have rights the due process They have certain rights under the Constitution if they are here on the soil they are telling they can't do it and then when when a
the highest officer in Chicago, which is the mayor.
He's the chief executive officer of the city says, you cannot do this.
They're saying, we're going to do it anyway.
So that just speaks to the stunning double standard that we always seem to see in this manner.
So I don't know, I wanted to share it with you.
I know Melissa's not here today.
And I know Melissa could do a much better job of talking about her article.
There's just so much in it.
There's so much, you know, from, from
The history going back to the Black Panthers using the same method to protect their neighborhoods to how it has modernized and evolved throughout the day to just the fact that this is not about quote-unquote the Bad neighborhoods, I hate saying that the bad neighborhoods in Chicago, whatever you want to call that It's about them being everywhere.
It's about them being in places where you wouldn't expect them and people
citizens being ready to identify them and tell other citizens about it so they can be aware and either be in their house or go out and identify.
So if you've been a part of this, if you have, if this has touched your life at all, I'd love to hear from you.
855-752-484-2855-75.
Civic, you can leave a comment on the live stream.
Have you been a part of any sort of movement that is protecting
your neighborhood, your community from these raids, from this invasion, from people coming in and trying to snatch up our, our friends, our family, just our community members.
I'd love to hear from you on that one, but
Bum that Melissa couldn't be here.
Hopefully everything is okay and that we that you know, there's nothing no sort of emergency But I'm gonna do that.
I'm gonna put this article in the show notes regardless I'm also going to put in an article from wired it is entitled what to do if ice invades your neighborhood it just gives a rundown of What's been happening and what you can do and how you can react and be part of a plan
It also just basically discusses how you can use your phone and use your voice to call out, call the countable and protect.
And, you know, something that, you know, in the case of Renee Good, what she was doing was trying to protect her community and it cost her her life, unfortunately.
But as we spoke with Brenna Godar earlier this morning in the first segment and the first hour, I should say,
Minnesota, Minneapolis, Twin Cities have recourse.
They can seek justice on her behalf and the community's behalf and the state's behalf.
And honestly, justice on behalf of the country as well.
I know I'm sounding high-minded Calvin right now and very, I feel like I should be raising up in the clouds and wings sprouting from my back.
I'm not trying to be like that.
I just, this is something that really I feel, it doesn't directly affect me.
You come to my neighborhood in Kenosha.
this isn't happening.
But that's not a reason not to care.
And the moment we look at it and say, well, how does that have to do with me?
Because at any point, this could happen to us.
At any point, there can be a knock on our door.
And at the very least, it's important for you to know your rights, what you can ask, what you can say, letting them in versus not letting them in.
Can you record them?
And that's something, you know,
As I say that, I think I'd like to have a person on the show, I'd like to get a guest on the show, and I'll let you know more about that sooner than later.
Who can, in plain flavored English, lay out what you can do in this sort of situation, because you still have rights, you still have a voice, and it's important to use them both, because when we don't have those, then the alternative is bad.
Very, very well said Calvin.
I must say that was great.
That was a great ending in that little moment there.
It's bad Calvin.
It's bad clip that for the WBAs.
Would you thank you very much?
Unfortunately, I think it's bad is
it's too good of a term.
It's just kind of sums everything up too perfectly.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's, it's
It's bad.
It's horrible.
It's disgusting.
It's it's senseless.
It's all those words But like it's a thing where you become so overwrought with all of the information and I'm not like I'm not affected like but I'm so like my shoulders slump I go that's so bad, but we We can do good together and that's what we must do
Jenny on the live stream says Western Wisconsin communities coping with an increase increasing ice presence within the last one to two months Hudson 30 miles from Minneapolis Ellsworth River Falls.
They're not just in the big cities folks.
They're not just in the big dangerous cities.
They're coming to communities.
They are looking for your neighbors and your friends and that sounds
Oh, but it's the truth.
That's what's happening, and you can be part of the solution.
So know your rights, stand up for your rights, stand up for your community.
You're listening in the mornings on Civic Media.
My name is Greg Bach.
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It's the fleeing car edition.
And then after the 10 30 news, we have for you audio sorbet.
Calvin, can I get some audio sorbet harps?
It's been a while and I feel I need to, ah, that's where we take a breath, take a step back, get away, get it.
away from the news.
That's heavy duty getting on our shoulders.
And we're talking about something that, you know, for me was, um, it was sad, you know, the, one of the co-founders of the grateful dead, Mr. Bob, we were passed away this past weekend and, uh, you know, he, he is responsible for decades of amazing music, amazing experiences, experiences.
You may not remember, let me tell you that much, but we're talking about him, the dead as well as.
For me, I was, I am, I wouldn't qualify myself as a deadhead per se.
I love the grateful dead, but I never saw him live.
And I don't go into the culture of the dead as much as others may.
I would say I'm a fan, a big fan, but they are a band I came to later in my life.
I didn't start listening to them really until my thirties, my mid thirties, along with rush.
That's just a moment.
That's a conversation for a lifetime.
But is there a group of band that, you know,
Whether it's like the Beatles or the Rolling Stones where you said later in your life, you like, oh my gosh, this is amazing.
What have I been missing?
I got to talk about it with everybody.
What's that for you?
We want to hear more about that during audio sorbet.
And then, yeah, we really thank you for being here after us, after this show, mid mornings, we're going to be switching on over to Tom Hartman from 11 to two.
And then from two to five, it's John and Gordy in the afternoon.
They're making the afternoon switch.
That's pretty cool.
And then finally, five to eight, Pete Schwabba and Nightlight.
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Even if you, you can use the voice notes, even if you don't like me, right?
Like that's, that's fair.
I would never keep someone from leaving me of, I would never say, you can't say that.
Go ahead.
I've heard it all.
Trust me.
And it was from like one guy.
Yeah, I mean, no promises that will do anything with it, but sure, send it our way.
We will certainly maybe learn from your words, but, you know, be a part of it.
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So lots more ahead for you today.
And we just again, thank you for being here.
Melissa, Melissa Gira Grant was supposed to be our guest this morning.
She was not able to make it.
We were talking about the
an article she wrote for the New Republic on the resistance from Chicago community members against ICE.
They were, you know, that was one of the major cities that Donald Trump put them in, put the ICE agents in.
It was part of a thing called Operation Midway Blitz, which I think is disgusting, but whatever.
And one of the things I brought up too was the fact that this is not just Chicago DC.
This is not just Los Angeles.
Yes.
I mean, and the update is, is that he is
called for the removal of those, uh, ICE agents, but that doesn't mean they won't go back.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I miss spoke.
I realized national guard.
I apologize.
I apologize.
I've been saying ICE agents this entire time.
I'm wrong.
I apologize for that.
The national guard, but that doesn't mean that this can't all happen, but ICE agents are all over the country.
They're not just in the big cities.
They're in the small communities.
They are possibly talking to your neighbors and
I want to reiterate something that Jenny brought up on the live stream.
He's Hudson, which is 30 miles away from Minneapolis, Minneapolis, Ellsworth River Falls.
And she goes on to say, if you care about Ellsworth cheese curds, you should care about the folks who tirelessly, who worked tirelessly to produce them.
And I think that is the.
That's the heartbreaking part of the argument is that we were sold on the idea that this was supposed to be the worst of the worst, the criminals, the terrible people, which I think all of us looked at each other and said, yeah, shrug shoulder, of course.
That's not been the case.
Folks who are here legally under court protection, people who are United States citizens who have green cards, things of that nature.
We were sold a bill of goods and it's terrible.
So yeah.
It's not just the big cities, it's everywhere.
So be on the lookout and know your rights.
And I'm going to work on getting someone here to talk specifically about the rights you have as a person in this country when faced with this problem.
Al from Campbell Sports on the line right now.
Al, you got very little time about less than a minute.
So what do you say to me today?
What do you say?
How are you doing this morning?
Pretty good.
I was going to talk about some groups.
Yeah.
Rock group.
Uh, you ever hear of the
jam out of England?
Oh, uh, well, actually, can you hold that thought?
We're going to be talking about that on the other side of the break.
Oh, no worries, Al.
No worries, Al.
Well, no, don't apologize for music and the rock and roll music.
I love the rock and roll music, but we're going to talk more about that after the 10 30 news.
So stick around.
Don't hang up out.
I'll take your call on the other side of the break and we'll talk more about music.
We'll talk more about, uh, the dead.
We'll talk more about the bands you discovered and we'll have some audio sorbet together because that's.
what it is all about.
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I see comments on the live stream and the text lines.
I'll get to those on the other side as well as the break as well.
I appreciate your time.
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Still ahead we have this shouldn't be a thing fleeing car edition.
And before we get on to our topic for audio survey, I just want to, you know, I know this is audio survey, but I do want to read this from Shasta said ice is here in Eau Claire.
Also, my stress levels are at the max.
I broke down during a video call and yeah.
So that's what I'm talking about.
It's not just the cities.
It's not just the big cities, I should say.
Eau Claire is a city, but it's not just the big Chicago, Los Angeles, even Milwaukee.
It's the smaller communities.
And so if you know someone, might be stressing out, reach out, see what you can do, grab a cup of coffee, give them a hug, do what you need to do, talk to them, let them vent.
But that's what we do as citizens of the world, I should say.
Barry Helm wants to get high-minded.
All right, we're moving on now.
to a portion of the show that we call Audio Sorbet, where we take a moment to step back and to, ah, right there.
Exactly.
What those harps are meant to do and, you know, relax a little.
And we're going to do that.
And it's a, it's a, it's a sad story, but I think ultimately when you talk about the man and the band and what it did to impact music and.
American and world culture.
It's a celebration.
It's joyous because he was a wonderful person.
And I didn't know him, but I'm sure he would never want us to mourn sadly.
He'd want us to remember fondly.
And that was Mr. Bob Weir, who was one of the co-founding members of the Grateful Dead.
He was known as Bobby.
He was the guy who people would say is not Jerry Garcia, who passed away in 1995.
Bob Weir was an instrumental part of that band.
He was the backbone.
He was one of the singers.
He was always there on the rhythm guitar.
I would go as far as say.
He was the cute one, you know, like all bands have, they have their Paul McCartney, the cute one.
He was a, he always looked very, very young cause he was, he joined the band, I think when he was 16 years old.
And something that I really love about this is the story goes back to 1968, just a few years after the band formed.
Apparently Bob Weir and their, their keyboardist slash vocalist, Pigpen, were fired from the band.
by Jerry Garcia and Phil Lash and lost Phil Lash last year as well due to musical differences.
But apparently that didn't bother Pig Pan and Bob.
They just kept showing up the shows and Jerry and Phil just went, okay, I guess they're still in the band.
That's fine.
But you know, it's that kind of persistence.
Show up.
Who knows what happens.
You'll be in a band for the next 60 years of your life.
And
I bring up the whole, he was the cute one because Bob Weir was always the youngest looking boyish looking one, the cute one, handsome one.
And that's not saying he wasn't handsome in his later years, but he really decided to go full Jerry Garcia with the big beard, white hair and just kind of take that old travelers look.
And he was the guy in charge of the group, but he did pass away this past weekend after actually he beat cancer, but so come to
complications with lung, with a lung disease or a lung infection.
So he is gone.
And the question I have for everyone today is, were you a deadhead?
Are you a deadhead?
Did you ever see them?
Did you ever travel with them?
And also, if you weren't, though, I'll say this.
I did not, you know, I went to a high school here in Waukesha, Wisconsin, that was basically, I felt like if you went here, if you went to that school, Catholic Memorial High School, class of 96, stay classy.
I felt like we were sponsored by the Grateful Dead because there was so much the Grateful Dead t-shirts, music, all that stuff happening.
And so for me as a little metalhead, I rebelled against that and I didn't come to the dead until my 30s and I realized how amazing they are.
So that's the other question too is like, are you a dead head?
Have you seen them?
Have you traveled?
Also, is there a group that you came to later in your life that you just absolutely like
Holy cow, where have they been?
And I must tell everybody.
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And I want to go back to a text message we got from Brett who got in touch with us.
Last hour, and this has to do with the civic media, civic media app.
So Brett, thanks for the cross promotion there.
He says, in two weeks, I'll be streaming you guys from Thailand through the civic media app.
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He said he also, he goes on to say, I loved the grateful dead, but I grew up in the early seventies.
I'm still a hippie today.
And I've seen pictures of Brett.
Yes, he is a hippie.
It's amazing.
Fantastic.
Love it.
Love it.
Thank you so much, Brett, for getting in touch with us.
Got a couple of calls on the, on the line I'm going to get to in a moment.
Calvin, is there anyone like, can I assume you're not a Grateful Dead fan?
I never want to assume anything about you, but I feel like of all the, the, the crumbs you've left on the ground for us to pick up and, and, and put together the puzzle that is Calvin Butenhaas life.
I feel like the Grateful Dead's not one of those pieces.
Yeah, great.
I hate to break it to you.
You're not breaking breaking news, buddy In fact if anything you be like hey, I love that I have I I celebrate their complete discography including Tape trading I'd be like wait what that's where I'd be surprised.
I've Tried listening to the Grateful Dead Mm-hmm And it sounds they sound nice
It just doesn't, it wasn't anything that really grabbed me.
Okay.
That's fine.
I mean, and that's the thing is like, honestly, when I was your age, like, I mean, and you're not like, no offense, you're not like a teenager, but if you were to ask me at your age, I probably would have said, they're not my jam.
No pun intended.
I'm a huge fish fan.
I have been since high school.
The dead didn't really connect with me until I got older.
So it doesn't mean.
it won't one day.
You might be sitting there in the car listening to a jamming like, who is this?
And they're like, it's the grateful day.
You're like, Oh my God.
And then you just must dive in.
So, uh, not really surprised Calvin at all that that was not your cup of tea growing up and that it's not now, but, uh,
If you want to get in touch with us again, 855-752-4842-855-755.
Civic, we got Al from Campbell's Port, who has been very patient.
Al, thank you so much for calling.
Talk to me about the music that you celebrate.
Oh, the Beatles, of course.
Yeah.
And the group out of England from 1977 to 82 is a group called the Jam Trio.
Have you ever heard of
them?
I have, yes, yes.
Yeah, they were underrated as far as I'm concerned.
They copied the who in the small phases, you know, that kind of stuff.
And they did all these, they did a few Beatles songs, like Rain and And Your Bird Can Sing.
It's on their box set.
So
that's kind
of cool.
I can hear different versions of the Beatles songs.
I collect those too.
Oh, you do?
Oh, like so like what do you mean by that?
Do you like you could like collect 78s or 45s or like
There's a Beatles song I look through all the albums when I go to these rummage sales and stuff I'll buy it if it's Lenin McCartney song, you know,
yeah
Just to see how many different things versions, you know, like yesterday there must be like 3,000 versions
I believe it's the most covered song in music history.
I think there's at the timeline when I read that article, it was 2,500 versions of it out there in the world.
And I'm sure that was many years ago.
So I'm sure there are hundreds more at this point, Al.
Yeah.
Well, I have a few albums by the dead.
I had the first album with California sound, you know, San Francisco.
Yeah.
And kind of like that, like they are playing that early stuff there.
Working man's dead.
I got that
album.
Yes.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I can't call myself a dead hit, but I mean, you're okay.
You know, and they were at Woodstock.
Oh, that's right.
I forgot that you don't usually see that.
That's not the video you usually see when they play video of Woodstock, but yeah, they were there.
I love the dead in their early stuff when they got more country sounding and pig pens vocals were always absolutely fantastic.
But Al, thank you so much for calling in and letting us know.
I mean, that's awesome.
We love hearing from you about that stuff.
Calvin, is there a band that you got into later that we may all know of?
And you're like, oh my gosh, who are these individuals?
There's not one off the top of my head off of um Alice point about versions of Beatles.
Yes My favorite Beatles song is don't let me down.
Yeah, but not the album version I like the rooftop performance version.
Yeah
It's it sounds like it's in a different key.
It's performed differently.
I like that version
I mean, I'm sure it was back and you know in
back in those days, you know, they tune their guitar to whoever had the closest E or A and, and they like, you know, nowadays you can just, you ever, every guitar player has a tuner fixed to their headstock so they can see if they're in tune or not.
But back then you're like, eh, good enough.
Let's play this.
And a lot of times they'll play E flat so they can sing a little better and a little louder.
But yeah, I mean that version, and when you watch the rooftop concert, that was January of 1969 in England.
You can see their hands getting wider.
and Redder from the cold, their breath coming out as they're singing.
And just like, can we just play these three or four songs and get out of here, please?
And not knowing that one, that'd be the last time they ever play and how important that concert was to just the lore of the band.
But I can't even imagine what it must have been like to be walking to work in the middle of London and you just hear what sounds like probably you think is a Beatles cover band.
And you're like, oh no, it's those four guys.
boy do they look way different now.
So that's, yeah, that's, I would, I would suggest anyone out there, if you love the Beatles, the get back film or the Beatles anthology, both on Disney plus, I'm not paid for by Disney plus and I'm not, don't get money from them, but that's where that's located.
But you can see more about that rooftop concert.
Jeff from Caledonia has also been patient on the line.
Jeff, good morning.
What say you about the dead, about music that you love, that you discovered late in life.
What is going on for you today, my
friend?
the dead was OK.
Yeah.
I didn't really get into them very much.
I had all sorts of weird things going on.
When I was I got out of Madison, me and a few guys went to see Berman's Hermits at a bar in in a small town in Wisconsin.
That was a quite interesting show.
Oh, yeah.
Let's see.
I've seen Pink Floyd twice once in Madison, which was really a dynamite show.
Was that the 95 tour in Camp Randall?
No, it was in the 70s.
Oh boy, okay.
And that was on the ice.
Well, it was covered ice, but it was over at the Dane County Coliseum.
Yeah.
And it was just
fantastic show.
Then I seen him at the stadium and I didn't like it at all.
It was raining.
And when the moon came out, well, that was the end of the show for me.
Um, let's see.
Um, I also liked, uh,
Jeff,
you there?
Yeah.
You saw Herman sir.
Yeah.
Ah, yes.
Yes.
Uh, bang a drum, bang a drum, my friend.
That man is a, that man is a music machine responsible for so much more music than we even know as far as like producing and writing and performing.
It's like, it's like a six degrees of separation when it comes to sixties and seventies and eighties and Todd Rundgren, but
Jeff, you bring up a concert in the, the, the, the Pink Floyd concert.
I think you're talking about camp Randall, that stadium.
I had the opportunity to go to that concert and I think it was 1995 or 94, I think it was 94.
And my parents said no, cause they were out of town and they just didn't know they were like, you know, if we're out of town and something happens, what do we do?
And one of my big regrets, not a big one, but you know, a childlike regret is that I didn't go.
I just didn't sneak out and do it cause I, they would never would have known.
We would have been fine.
I was a good boy then.
I'm a good boy now.
So I enjoyed the music, but yeah, did not get to see Pink Floyd who never toured again after that tour, but thank you everyone.
Thank you all for getting in touch, letting us know your thoughts on music, letting us know your thoughts on the entire show today so far, but.
You got one more for you ahead of us.
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It falls apart immediately, Calvin.
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That person I'm talking to right now is sweet Calbee on the boards.
Calvin still doing good.
I'm still doing great, Greg.
Uh, since we last talked about, uh, five minutes ago, have you become a grateful dad fan yet?
Yeah, I think I'm a deadhead.
There you go.
There you go.
See, that's how it happens.
It just happens to you, buddy.
Just happens to you.
Uh, we were talking earlier about the music that we, you know, the grateful dad, Bob, we were passed away last weekend talking about whether or not we're deadheads, whether or not, you know, we liked the band and also music that we came to maybe later in life.
Got a lot of great comments on the live stream as well as the, the text line got great phone calls and just my way of saying thank you for being a part of the show, giving us your time.
We know it's precious and
that is not lost on us.
And we are grateful for it.
Want to talk about a couple of text messages that came through during the break or right before the break we couldn't get to.
Let's see here.
We got Bob from Eau Claire listening on WCFW.
This is regards to the first half hour of the second hour here.
We were talking about what to do in the face of ICE agents, what to do knowing your rights and what, what we can as a community.
achieve when we come together and protect one another.
And he says, from the clash song, know your rights.
Number one, you have the right not to be killed.
Murder is a crime unless it's done by a policeman or an aristocrat.
Oh, know your rights.
I love the clash.
Never more relevant than today.
If you ask me, which is scary, but Brett from Kiwani listening to W ISS, he says he likes the grateful dead.
He is a deadhead.
And it was a sad day when he found out about Mr. Bob.
We're indeed indeed.
But as I said earlier, I believe he'd want us to celebrate
celebrate the music and celebrate the legacy.
So, but yeah, it was a bummer of a day.
Uh, then also, uh, Brett from Brown deer gets back to us on W permit listening on WA UK says, I never liked Elton John in my youth because it wasn't hard rock enough.
Now I'm listening to it and realized how great he is.
I mean, that's how I got to the Bee Gees.
And I got to the Bee Gees in my twenties and I thought, well, just disco.
And I realized, Oh my God, these songs are amazing.
And they wrote so many other songs before that too.
And yeah,
just give music a chance.
And then finally Liz from Sockville listening on WA UK says, I love the grateful dead best music to dance to.
I'm a touch head, which means she didn't start listening to them until touch of gray back in the eighties went to a further festival in the nineties at Alpine.
So much fun.
Well, you know what?
There's no, there's no, there's no qualification to me, Liz.
You are a dead head period.
And you don't, don't qualify by saying you just got into them.
You're dead head.
That's what I say.
But again,
Thank you so much for contacting us.
Thank you so much for calling in.
We really appreciate you.
But it's 1055, everybody.
That means we are getting dangerously close to being done, which means we have to get to another edition of
this shouldn't be a thing.
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Today's, this shouldn't be a thing.
It shouldn't be a thing comes all the way.
Where did it go?
I had it right here.
I'm sorry, folks.
This is so.
ill prepared of me.
It was right there for me.
And now it's gone.
Ah, here we go.
This comes from Arizona's family.
CBS five and Michaela Castillo has the byline Waymo passenger fleas after car drives on Phoenix light rail tracks.
So this comes all the way from Phoenix.
This good to know that Phoenix has light rail.
Now, if you don't know what Waymo is, I said Waymo and you might say to yourself, what is that?
I need Waymo information.
Waymo is a company.
is a company that is a subsidiary of Alphabet, which is actually Google's parent company.
Did not know they had a parent company until right now.
They develop and operate autonomous driving technology, creating self-driving cars for ride, hailing, Waymo One, and delivery services.
So essentially what happened was a person was in this Waymo car, which has no driver, which is immediately where you lose me.
I'm sorry.
I will get as old man as possible on this one.
No thank you to self-driving cars.
I just can, and this is just another pile of evidence for my argument against.
Awema was caught on camera driving down Phoenix light rail tracks yesterday, forcing a passenger to flee the car before it continued along the tracks, nearing an oncoming train.
Videos taken by the bystander near central and southern avenues shows the moment the self-driving car stops on the track just before an oncoming coming light rail approaches.
The passenger runs out of the vehicle before the car continues to drive down the tracks near another train.
Sorry self-driving cars are just really I actually this is from Andrew Maynard who was the person In the car.
I actually felt a little sorry for the car.
It obviously made a bad decision and got itself any difficult place I What feeling sorry for the car Okay, I'm sorry, but no this is not what we should we should we should be doing Waymo vehicles are equipped with 29 cameras and update their routes and systems weekly apparently not
However, in the area where the incident happened, there was construction and the light rail was added to the spot within the last year, which Maynard said could have contributed to the light rail detour.
Actually, I'm sorry.
Andrew Maynard is an emerging and transformative technology professor at ASU.
He was not the person in the car.
Regardless, I don't care.
When I get a taxi, I want there to be a person in that taxi.
Hard pass on this.
This shouldn't be a thing completely.
That wraps up another edition of...
This shouldn't
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Thank you very much to traffic.
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