Why We Love Jane (Hour 2)

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Why We Love Jane (Hour 2)

Matenaer on Air · Thu Dec 11, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Jane Matenaer

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Before we get to our next guest, after the 1030 News, the segment we call Audio Sorbet, where we get away from the news and talk about lighter things, we got the big guns coming in.

The big guns.

The

Greg Bach

big guns.

Does that make me a small gun?

Does that mean like a

Jane Matenaer

medium size?

I feel like I'm

Greg Bach

more like the Derringer.

Water pistol?

That thing is like, oh, it's like that's an adorable little gun.

Jane Matenaer

CEO Sage Weil and our COO Corey Hartman are going to be joining us after the 1030 News.

I have something for them, by the way.

I have a gift.

That's coming up after 10.30.

I know.

Right now, though, we are joined by our friend and colleague and host of The Dr. Kristen Lyrely Show, which just got picked up in Chicago.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely is here.

Good morning, my friend.

Kristin Lyerly

Hey, good morning.

And I'd just like to remind you, Greg, your eyes doesn't matter.

Yeah,

Jane Matenaer

that doesn't

Kristin Lyerly

make me feel

Jane Matenaer

good.

Kristin Lyerly

You're a great gun.

Your

Jane Matenaer

gun is just the size it should be.

Kristin Lyerly

It's perfect.

Jane Matenaer

Hey, hold on one second.

Greg Bach

Yeah, HR, I'm

Jane Matenaer

on the phone right now.

I'm in the air right now.

Very, very unstoppable.

Jacqueline, we have a problem.

Tell us about you getting picked up in Chicago.

That's really, really exciting.

Kristin Lyerly

The way that this show has grown is I don't even understand it.

Like, I'm just an OBGYN doctor trying to do

Greg Bach

something.

Kristin Lyerly

Oh, stop it.

Honestly, this started in Green Bay and it was hyper local.

And then it was all across Wisconsin and then Chicago, AM820 WCPT, which is one of the biggest progressive talk radio stations in the country, said, hey, let's put you on Saturdays at five.

So that's what we're doing.

That is

Jane Matenaer

so great, Kristen.

It is.

Kristin Lyerly

it is, but it's challenging because I like to talk about the Packers and right now that's just not really cool and sure.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, I suppose that's going to play a little bit differently south of the south of the Illinois border.

But hey, they knew what they were getting when they asked you.

Kristin Lyerly

Yeah.

They did.

And, you know, to be fair, like if you didn't watch the game last weekend, oh my God.

But there's going to be a rematch in Chicago

real soon

Kristin Lyerly

the following weekend.

Yes.

So like I could talk real big right now, which I don't.

I love this rivalry.

It's such a great.

It is the most historic intertwined rivalry in the NFL.

Kathryn Lake

So

Kristin Lyerly

I think it's a blast, but I could totally be eating.

If I gloated, I could be eating my words hard in a week and a half.

So I'm not gloating.

I am praising and I'm just excited.

for for what that matchup brings.

Greg Bach

I think it's wonderful because every season we get to see Bears fans get really excited and by week two they're really sad and this year they got to have some excitement.

They got to really enjoy a good season.

I mean they're playing fairly well better than I mean I would say more consistently than the Packers were.

I mean we were supposed to beat Carolina and beat the Cowboys and beat the Browns and we did almost those things.

But like it's.

Yeah.

I think that's very, very fun.

And, and, and I feel like this is just me, maybe because I'm from Wisconsin, but I feel like Packer fans in our excitement and in our, like how much we love the team.

We also have a healthy dose of reality in our systems to say like, eh, okay.

Whereas Bears fans and Chicago sports.

Yeah.

I hijacked the conversation.

Chicago sports fans, maybe who are fans of a North side baseball team cannot live with the idea of a defeat from a Wisconsin team.

at all, like there's

Jane Matenaer

always a reason why it happened.

The worst thing that happens to them is losing to a team from Wisconsin.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Kristin Lyerly

That's fine.

Whatever.

You know, and can I just ask, like, do you think the Pope has something to do with the Bears record?

And

Kristin Lyerly

then every answer I have is me did last time.

So like, because there's some divine intervention, I don't know.

I'm just injecting that into our conversation for your thoughts

Greg Bach

and pun.

I think that, you know, I will say this as a side note to that.

I've really enjoyed seeing Pope Leo be a representation of a good message to the people.

And every time I see him on, I know there are things about the church we can talk about.

I can definitely get in that's another time off the air, but I will say that when I found out that the guy who was going to lead the Catholic church was handpicked by Pope Francis to be a part of this, I was like,

Okay, we don't there won't be and when he was American, I'm like, okay, no megapope.

Thank good.

Thank goodness.

I just don't need that I don't want I don't want any I want just be a beacon of the message.

That's what I say, but

Jane Matenaer

that's a whole Yeah,

Greg Bach

sorry about that folks

Jane Matenaer

medicine

Kristin Lyerly

Okay, here's your bridge because what is happening?

for people who cannot access healthcare in a healthcare environment.

And Jane, Greg, you guys sent this article to me about how there are people running free clinics all across the country, really, that are in places like church basements.

Kathryn Lake

And

Kristin Lyerly

this particular article highlighted a clinic that's in a church basement in Milwaukee.

People come in for free care.

All of the care is offered by volunteers.

It is set up where they have like,

to give a little bit of privacy in these environments.

This is what people are increasingly having to turn to because they can't afford healthcare and these free clinics that have very few resources and can.

To be honest, they can't do all that much.

It's not like they've got technology and a CT scanner down the hall.

I mean, they just set up in the church basement one day a week to help out whoever they can.

And they too are tapped.

They're maxed out and they know that this is about to get...

So much worse.

Jane Matenaer

Dr. Lyrely is referencing an article in Wisconsin Public Radio from Addie Costello, and we will include this in the show notes.

It says, we don't turn anyone away, Wisconsin's free clinics fill gaps as thousands are expected to go uninsured.

Clinics bracing for more patients as Affordable Care Act premium spike and enhanced tax credits expire.

Yeah, and we're just on the cliff.

People are shopping for their...

plans now, and allegedly, our lawmakers are going to vote today or tomorrow on something today, but they can't agree on anything, and nobody has enough votes to pass anything.

And the Republicans, again, are like, well, we have a plan that we've written down-ish.

It's an invisible ink.

Where is this plan?

They've had 15 years to come up with a plan.

They don't have a plan, except

Kristin Lyerly

to give us... They don't even

Jane Matenaer

have a concept of a plan.

Well, seriously, we're going to give $2,000 and put them in your HSAs.

That doesn't even cover people's deductibles for the year.

for

Kristin Lyerly

one person.

Let me just back up here.

Do you remember when the government was shut down for many, many days?

And they said, and we were holding out on ACA subsidies and the Republican said, come back to work and we'll negotiate with you.

Well,

The Democrats went back to work and there's been no negotiation.

So that's what the vote today is about.

The Democrats want to extend the ACA subsidies for three years.

This is exactly why they came back to the table.

The Republicans want to give people $1,000, maybe $1,500 if you qualify and they want you to put it into an HSA, a health savings account.

That's all.

They're literally

flashing money in front of your eyes, money that won't even begin to cover the cost of the cuts that are about to be implemented.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and this whole thing, and I've heard several Republican lawmakers say, we want to cut out the insurance companies.

This is so people can have more power.

And so, OK, you give me this $1,000 and I need a knee replacement.

So I'm going to call my area hospital and they're going to negotiate with me.

Over the price of my knee replacement, that's how that's going to work.

They're not.

They're going to say, here's the price.

Greg Bach

Well, that's the question.

I want to put that to a question is that we have been talking about health care for so long, and the ACA, well, not perfect, and nobody ever said it was, gave people a little more access to health care on an individual basis.

And

Kathryn Lake

it

Greg Bach

was gave people a little more

Kathryn Lake

access to what's happening

Greg Bach

there.

I'm hearing myself.

I am hearing you there too.

That's very weird.

I'm magical, but

for the longest time, you know, the problem was like the, the exorbitant costs from the insurance companies.

And no one ever said anything about like trying to cut the, no one's ever said cut the insurance companies out because the ACA, you work with insurance companies to get a program.

Now all of a sudden these, these lawmakers are saying, we're trying to get rid of these bloated billionaire companies.

Wait, when did you stop liking them?

And how is this doing anything?

And

You are actively making it harder for people to act.

It was tough enough as it was.

You are actually doing things now that are making it more difficult.

How did they get to turn the narrative against from them to the insurance companies who are still going to make out like bandits regardless and also give them money in their elections?

Jane Matenaer

Well, and that's the thing and that has been my question too.

When did everybody start hating on insurance companies who are in government?

They all

Both sides, they all take money from insurance companies in the form of campaign donations they do.

Do a Google search on it.

Kristin Lyerly

Oh, yeah, they are incredibly powerful.

That's how they ended up staying in the ACA in the first place.

So don't forget, though, that.

the truth is not a barrier for Republicans.

They will say anything, and it doesn't matter whether there's any truth to it or not, because as long as you believe it, that is their purpose.

That's all that matters.

And that's all that matters.

And remember, they control the entire government.

They may make you feel like they're some sort of victims, but they have

it total decision making power right now.

So anything that happens that is affecting the cost of food, the cost of health care, the cost of housing, all of these things in your life that are becoming harder to access.

That is Republican.

They are not here for you.

They are here for them.

Jane Matenaer

If you are just joining us on Matt and Air on Air, our guest is Dr. Kristen Liarley, our friend and host of the Dr. Kristen Liarley show.

You can hear it statewide on weekends, Saturdays and Sundays at noon, now also running in Chicago.

I want to go back to what you said about it.

Doesn't matter if what they're telling you is a lie as long as you believe it.

That goes back to JD Vance and the whole Haitian immigrants are eating the cats and dogs.

He essentially admitted that he made that up.

He made it up to make a point that he didn't like these immigrants.

That's a classic example of them lying directly to you and then saying, well, yeah, it was a lie, but you know what?

They bought it and and that's all that matters.

Kristin Lyerly

And that's how they counter the narratives that are out there.

You can see it when you're looking at people's social media posts and you can see these tropes that are repeated over and over again.

That's what they're telling you to repeat on Fox News.

But it's not just, I mean, it's really bad when it's coming from our leaders like the vice president of the United States, but it also happens to them.

I mean, the whole JD Vance and the couch thing.

If you remember that, that was not true.

That's not in his book.

That was something that somebody just put out on Twitter and it caught fire.

So this is the environment that we live in.

They know that all you have to do is put something out, something spicy out into the universe and it will get repeated.

But you would think that they would have more honor than that.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, no, no.

Not so much.

Honor, shame, integrity, truthfulness.

Self-reflection.

None of that seems to be applicable anymore, unfortunately.

I

Kristin Lyerly

think we'll get past it.

I do, but I think that in the meantime, those of us who do believe in the truth and relationships and each other, investing in each other, we have to maintain that.

Because once we get past that, we'll still be here, but they won't.

Greg Bach

And we're seeing in stories and from posts that people are starting to

Stand up a little bit more and when one stands up three more stand up

makes it

Greg Bach

easier makes it easier and we and we move forward to being together being together because This is about protecting our best interest in this country.

We're all in this together

Jane Matenaer

my friends We're all in it together.

We're to continue our conversation with dr. Chris and liar Lee on the other side stay close You are listening to Matt and air on air.

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Jane Matenaer

Good morning and welcome back to NatNair on air.

Jane NatNair, Greg Bach, our one, our only calzone on the board.

Coming to you from our home at Radio Park, join us at 855-752-4842.

Leave a comment on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter, a couple of texts that I wanted to share.

Tom from Jackson, sending in his love for Kristen Brie and also love to Dr. Kristen Lierly.

And Andrew from Maine also says waves to Wisconsin.

favorite OBGYN, also not discounting the glorious Dr. Hanks and potentially future speaker of the house, Dr. Kristen Lyerling.

Oh,

Jane Matenaer

man.

Kristin Lyerly

What a crowd.

I mean, to be here with you guys and all of those names, I think of the community that you've built here, Jane.

It's like

Greg Bach

love

Kristin Lyerly

on her to do it.

There it is.

a moment thinking about just being here with you and doing this and how much I love this time that we have together.

And what am I going to do with all of this built up angst that I have when I don't

Greg Bach

have you?

Join us

Jane Matenaer

nine to

Greg Bach

11 with

Jane Matenaer

angst with Dr. Liarley.

We'll just do a whole show about angst.

Greg Bach

I think that, you know, something that, you know, this goes back to with, cause I met you, Dr. Liarley through Kristen and through Jane on the old show, As Goes Wisconsin.

And.

You know, I think one of the, you know, I want to, I want to, I want to live on both of you right now.

Because of that opportunity to do it, to do the show and to talk with you and have those kind of, I was brought on to be the comedian.

And as you can see, two out of 10.

But really, you think you know, you think you know topics, you think you know what you stand for.

But a lot of times, a lot of times people stand for something because you say like, well, of course I'm for the rights of a woman to choose.

her body, like her autonomy, but I don't know the nuance about it.

I just say the sentence and I feel good about myself, but by talking to the two of you and talking to Kristen and the whole, I learned, I learned so much about just the process, not just about the, the physical process of being pregnant before, during and after, but how it affects the world and how the world affects the person who is in the situation or the people who are in the situation.

And as opened my eyes to so much more conversation and understanding,

to be able to not get into arguments, but when people say things that are not the best.

Maybe not accurate, not accurate.

I can say that actually isn't true.

You know, this is the thing, blah, blah, blah.

You know, it's it's given.

It's opened my eyes to a whole new world of understanding on the topics.

I thought I truly believed in, but I believe in even more now because I actually have details.

Jane Matenaer

Well, knowledge is power and knowing more is always better.

Thinking if I don't read something.

is gonna leave me in a better spot is backwards.

Kristin Lyerly

I'm the kind of person who's always questioning things, like it makes the people in my life crazy.

They're like, why don't you just believe something?

But I need evidence.

Just take it.

I can't do that.

But you know, we don't actually do that all the time.

Even me.

Sometimes we just passively absorb information.

And until you have a conversation about it and you reach that point where you realize, I don't actually know this.

Kathryn Lake

I don't

Kristin Lyerly

actually understand this.

And you can talk about it in an environment where you're challenged and you have to think about it.

That's really important.

And that's what you do here.

And that's what I'm really going to miss.

Jane Matenaer

Well, our whole contention from the very beginning.

we're not experts.

We're not.

As much as I would love to be.

Some listeners would say we're not even smart, so hey.

They're entitled to their opinions.

But that's why we have brought on people who are lawyers, who are doctors, who are farmers, who are economists, who are psychologists.

So I can learn from them as well.

And if, again, the whole goal of the show was,

if we can all learn stuff together and make it entertaining, that's the best of all worlds, at least in my estimation.

And if I don't laugh, I'm going to die.

So... Not to be dramatic, everyone.

Kristin Lyerly

But it's... We're all gonna die in the words of Joni

Jane Matenaer

Ernst.

There you go.

But I mean, and that's fine.

But I would at least like to say that I laughed more through my life than I sobbed.

Yes.

Jane Matenaer

And

Kathryn Lake

I just

Jane Matenaer

think that's really important.

Kathryn Lake

I

Jane Matenaer

do.

I think it's really important.

And listening to experts and being open to experts and being willing to admit, I don't know everything.

I don't find that shameful.

I find that- It's freeing.

Freeing.

Greg Bach

It is.

Right?

Saying I don't know, I'm not sure.

I'll look that up.

Or the biggest one.

Very much not a phrase in this country right now.

I was wrong.

Kory Hartman

To

Greg Bach

say I was wrong is a huge, do you be able to say that with full chest and say I was wrong?

Jane Matenaer

Or I was, I was fooled.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

I got fooled.

I was lied to.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

I was wrong.

And you then can move on to work together or learn more.

It just, I don't know.

It just, it feels better than holding on to.

to your inability to grow and say like well I don't need to learn new things and I'm writing you don't you don't understand

Jane Matenaer

yeah that's you're then you're wrapping yourself in your own ignorance giving yourself a prize for it that's not prize worthy no

Kristin Lyerly

It just feels so much better to be able to relate and communicate and learn and approach life in a holistic way instead of feeling like you're always right.

You have to double down.

I mean, I can't imagine the stress and the discomfort that I'm

Jane Matenaer

experiencing.

How exhausting, right?

Yeah.

And I also think if you want to stay young,

And if you want, keep learning things

Kathryn Lake

and

Jane Matenaer

keep exposing yourself to different people and younger people and older people and all kinds of people.

You

Kristin Lyerly

heard it here, folks.

Jane just recommended that you expose yourself to all different kinds of people.

Jane Matenaer

Maybe not literally exposed.

Folks, it's been fun.

Have a good day.

Happy retirement, Jane.

Greg Bach

You

Jane Matenaer

weirdo.

Don't go exposing yourself to people and then saying, Jane said, I should do

Kristin Lyerly

that.

Jane said, expose yourself.

Jane Matenaer

Dr. Kristen Lyerly has a fabulous show that you can catch on Saturdays and Sundays across the network.

The Dr. Kristen Lyerly show.

I love you, my friend.

I love you too.

Kristin Lyerly

Thank

Jane Matenaer

you.

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Jane Matenaer

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All right, we are joined right now.

Delighted to be joined by Civic Media's CEO, Sage Weill and our COO, Corey Hartman.

Both here gentlemen, good morning, thanks for being here.

Oh, we need, we need Sage's mic on.

Oh, sorry, Calvin's doing multiple things now.

It's good to

Kory Hartman

keep the bosses.

Jane Matenaer

Wow.

Cut his mic.

Cut his mic.

By the way, while I have you both here, Sage and Corey, I have something for both of you for the brief time that I was office manager at WAUK.

I saved every single receipt.

Every single receipt for everything I use the company guard for.

Well, you can turn

Kory Hartman

those in tomorrow.

Jane Matenaer

But I wanted you to know that I was on the up and up and I never bought Target Snacks just for me.

So here are all.

You got

Greg Bach

to go into ADP next.

You got to go in.

Jane Matenaer

Enter them in.

Enter them all individually.

You can give those to Jacqueline.

Triple kid, three copies.

Yes.

Greg Bach

Manager's approval, the whole thing.

Jane Matenaer

But I was going through my stuff last night and I found those and it's like, oh, I want you to know that I had never gotten a company credit card before and I took it very seriously.

I appreciate that.

I did.

So are you guys here to fire me or what?

Oh my god.

We

Kory Hartman

can't.

We can't.

We can't do it.

Greg Bach

I mean, I don't know what to say.

You say every time you're like, come here and fire me.

No, they're not.

Although, I mean, it would get a lot of views online.

It would.

We could probably go viral on that.

We could do like a

Greg Bach

wrestling type of thing where they kayfabe fire you.

Right.

Well, I think this is your chance, right?

Like this is when you get to say what you really meant to say this whole time you've been holding it in.

What's the worst that can happen, Jane?

Jane Matenaer

I do want to say thank you for giving me this opportunity.

And I've said this many times and I've never been able to say it to you.

To give a woman in her 60s her own show is not a small thing.

And I am very well aware of the trust and confidence you put in me.

And I'm so grateful for that.

Well, you made it a very easy decision, Jane.

I'll just say that we've been so honored and grateful to have you for these last three years now.

Jane Matenaer

Three

years.

You've been a real joy and you make it look so easy.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and I also want to thank you and begin Corey as well.

Both of you, I'm sure when you saw my name come up on your phones, we're like, oh my God, it's Jane again.

Oh God, do I have to take this call?

Oh God, what is she going to say now?

Kory Hartman

Glad to take the phone call every single time.

Jane Matenaer

And you always did.

You both always took my calls.

You listened to my complaints.

You asked for my opinion.

And then you actually.

Listen, when I gave it to you, you didn't necessarily follow everything I told you to do.

You liked to give me a $400,000 raise, but it was

Kathryn Lake

worth

Jane Matenaer

a shot.

It was worth a draw.

You got to throw it out there.

You don't get what you don't ask for in this business.

Exactly.

Oh, well, while I have you both here, then I have a couple of ideas.

But it's been what you are doing and still media is constantly changing.

It's a very, very challenging.

business to go into, especially at this point in time because things have changed so much.

But civic media still is doing something that nobody else has done in coming into these smaller communities and buying radio stations that were part of these communities for a long time and then went dead for a really long time.

So we continue to bring life to little radio stations all over the state and now in multiple states and I think that's

and a remarkable achievement and a big plus to these communities.

It's so important to have local people and local reporters on the ground.

It is.

Absolutely.

That is the mission of this company is to have local news and information and voices in smaller communities in order to bring people information that they need to go about their lives.

It's been a rough couple of decades, I think, for local media.

Not just on the newspaper side, obviously, but a lot of consolidation in radio

Kathryn Lake

and a

lot of disinvestment.

But what we find is that there are frequently these treasures of stations in small communities that have staff that just have been pouring their hearts out.

Usually with very little support.

Yes.

Jane Matenaer

And ancient equipment.

Ancient equipment.

Like you would not believe some of the things that we've seen.

But

Jane Matenaer

it

feels really good to come into these communities and like give these people the resources that they need in order to do the type of radio and to do the type of journalism reporting that they really have been wanting to do and just haven't had the support.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and Corey, let's talk a little bit about putting together a news department.

Sure is very expensive for one thing because you need bodies.

You have to have actual human living, breathing, carbon based life forms to cover meetings and to go out into the community and meet people.

You can't just do all this via automation and chatbots.

You can't.

Kory Hartman

Yeah.

And I mean, at least some of the city councils and county boards and things, at least they stream now.

So you can go back the next day and watch them.

You don't necessarily have to be sitting in the in the.

Jane Matenaer

But now we're losing Wissai.

Now we're going to lose Wissai.

Kory Hartman

Wissai is going away and and, you know, some of these boards are doing the best they can to hide the stream on some calendar somewhere

Jane Matenaer

where nobody

Kory Hartman

can find it.

You know, I owned a station in Baraboo for eight years and and the newspaper there not to keep picking on newspaper, but they'd go to the city council meeting on Tuesday night and they'd hold the news until the Saturday edition.

What?

at.

At always, always, they because that was their biggest circulation.

So

Kory Hartman

they were lucky if there was one local story a day in the Baraboo paper and radio fills a need in so many communities.

There's there's one in the northwest corner of the state.

It's a it's a daily newspaper.

Their offices open 10 to two Thursday, Tuesday and Thursday minus lunch.

So the local newspapers open six hours a week

Jane Matenaer

oh my

Kory Hartman

for you to come in and drop off notices or news tips or whatever I mean those are the types of of news deserts and holes that that we're trying to to fill

Jane Matenaer

well, and I think what's important that folks realize also is that if you do not have local reporting on the ground that actually affects your city's bond rating because They want if people are gonna loan you money

They want to make sure that there's someone keeping an eye on the henhouse.

Accountability, right?

And so if you don't have local reporters who are going to those really boring council meetings, just to keep tabs on these folks and what's going on, it affects your bond rating as a city and your ability to borrow money and all of that stuff.

It's much more complicated.

And that's why it is so critically important.

Kory Hartman

And it's, I mean, it's the checks and balances, right?

And if your council people are just spending or they're not listening to the residents or whatever, and you don't know what's happening, you know, and that's, it's so hard for people to get involved as it is, but then if they're not getting the information until after the meetings already happened.

And so much of that stuff happens in pre-committee before it even gets to the full committee.

And those are the types of things that we're trying to remind people, like go to the budget meeting, go to the meetings before the meetings.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

If you're just joining us right now, I'm Matt Naranair.

We're speaking to Sage Wilde, the CEO of Civic Media, and Corey Harbin, who's the COO of Civic Media, and we are talking about...

the wonderfulness that is, Jane.

We are also talking about the importance of the mission of civic media and the importance of both local reporting, local coverage and accountability.

And I think that's, you know, when you say that, Corey, something that pops into my mind.

And Don Rosen had a great interview a couple of weeks ago, a couple of months ago about this, but Sturdivant just collapsed their police department out of nowhere, unbeknownst to the police department, unbeknownst to the people.

They decided it in a backroom deal and they came out and said, this is what we're going to do.

And the police said,

I'm sorry, what?

And that was it, and it's gone.

And that affects the people.

And we need to keep up with those stories.

We need to know what's going on.

And going to places like civicmedia.us and going to the individual radio stations of this company will get you that coverage you need, will get you the information, and also just supporting those local papers and supporting those local news outlets, supporting public broadcasting

Jane Matenaer

as well.

Absolutely.

So what is the vision for civic media

going forward?

I mean, there are multiple pieces here.

I think one of the biggest things for me that motivates me is that when you look at the overall media landscape, there is so much content out there.

There's so much news that you can consume, but most of that news is about what's happening far away from your home.

It's about what's happening maybe in the state capital if you're lucky, but mostly what's happening in DC, which are things that are like...

Very important obviously, but there are things that you have very little actual control over and they don't always affect your like day-to-day

life

Although that's changing a little bit these days, but what

Jane Matenaer

but at the local level is

exactly like the things that happen in your community local government is has the greatest direct impact on your daily life it is also where your your

you have the issues and the discussions and the decisions that affect your community and what's happening in your community and that you actually know the people who are involved in the situation and where the issues that are being decided usually aren't breaking down on the same partisan divisive lines.

Jane Matenaer

On the

community

level.

On the community

level.

These are like real.

decisions that

Jane Matenaer

have to happen

in your community that impact your children, your public school, your roads, your access to a clinic, what's happening with your local hospital.

These

Kathryn Lake

things are very

important.

And there's increasingly a smaller amount of journalism and content that's actually covering those decisions.

And so that's where the game is

Jane Matenaer

at.

We're going to slide you over into the tis bad segment because we're going to come up against a hard break.

But what you've done in Ely, Minnesota, and brought that station back to life, which is such a cool story, it really is.

It's on the edge of nowhere.

Kory Hartman

It is on the edge.

Well, I mean, you could see it from there, right?

Jane Matenaer

Yes.

Kory Hartman

I mean, the signal goes partially into Canada and it's the boundary waters canoe area northeastern corner of of Minnesota.

It is way up there.

And it is the only local media.

They they have a daily newspaper.

It's a it's a very conservative newspaper.

A town over has what I would consider the arts and entertainment type newspaper.

But

As far as commercial broadcast audio media, there's a few, you know, MPR, you know, public radio influences there.

But other than that, for commercial radio, we're it.

And to bring that station back to life after it was off the air for almost two years.

Huge.

Huge huge deal.

Jane Matenaer

Yep.

We're gonna continue our conversation with civic media CEO sage wheel while and Corey Hartman RC So that's how you

feel that

Jane Matenaer

stay close.

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Kathryn Lake

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Jane Matenaer

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So he's walking away with one of our final two beyond the cheese stocking caps.

So graciously made.

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Greg Bach

And Brett, when you get the hat.

Take a picture of it and then text it through the free Civic Media app.

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Jane Matenaer

can

Greg Bach

download to your device right now.

Jane Matenaer

We are joined speaking of Civic Media by Civic Media CEO Sage Weil is here and our CEO Corey Hartman.

Thank you so much for joining today, you guys.

Jane, how did you, how did you get Jefferson Starship to make a song about you?

It was well, I've been around a long

Greg Bach

time Corey.

I was backstage in Woodstock and I'm like, you don't know it now.

You're going to form a new band.

It'll be weird.

Jane Matenaer

You know what a good name for.

song would be is Jane you should do that yes that's what you should do number

Kristin Lyerly

one

Jane Matenaer

no it has been I have enjoyed myself so very very much and thank you for again for the gift of giving me a show and trusting me with it and the opportunity to work with Greg and with Calvin and there's just fabulous fabulous people at Civic Media

There are

Kory Hartman

Jane Jane I had the the pleasure of taking your old VHS tapes and watching all of the old promos and We'll call them archival footage and getting to know you because you know Milwaukee was just a little too far away from where I grew up.

Sure.

So it was great to learn much much more about you and to get to know you for all these years and

I'm glad that you're that you're tailing out your career.

I don't want to call it ending with us here at Civic

Jane Matenaer

Media.

Well, thank you.

And as I've told, I was on Don Show this morning and I was on with Dan Haney.

It's you guys, I have all your emails.

It's not like you can escape from me.

Kathryn Lake

You're not

Jane Matenaer

getting away from me, so don't think I'm going away.

Um, it is time, we're gonna do it.

It's 10.55, Calvin.

That means it is time for... This shouldn't be a thing.

If you want to send in a thing, you think you should.

It should not be.

You better do it now.

Yeah.

Uh, cause tomorrow's the last one.

Here is the headline.

Calvin found this one from Sydney, Australia.

Oh boy.

Aussie lawmakers dogs let horse and steer into house.

Now the outside animals know what Aircon feels like.

A lawmaker in Australia left in utter disbelief.

After going out to dinner with his partner, he checked the pet feed on his phone to discover his dogs had let a steer and a horse into his living room.

He added the footage on his security camera to his Facebook page over the weekend, noting that life on his farm will probably never be the same.

Thankfully, all of the pets are fine, but now the animals know what air conditioning feels like, and there no doubt going to be trying this

Greg Bach

again.

The

Jane Matenaer

whole farm's got

Greg Bach

to feel cool.

Jane Matenaer

The video shows his two pet dogs, thunder in the lead, nuzzling upper these open the sliding door to open the way into the yard.

Before long, the castrated steer named Sue wandered into the house, followed by cricket, the horse, and they proceeded to sniff and things in the living room while they were enjoying the air conditioning.

When they saw the feed on their livestream, the couple raced home after he saw the stuff on his pet cam.

That's when we discovered that about 10 minutes after we'd left, the dog opened up the door and let everybody in.

The house found a bowl of vegetable scraps, threw that around the room, they drank from the fish tank.

He said, I'm not sure how many fish I had before I assume they're all still there.

But the water was down by a considerable amount.

And Pixar has bought their rights to the story.

It will be a movie soon.

Yeah, exactly.

Absolutely.

That wraps up today's episode of...

Kory Hartman

This shouldn't be a thing.

I

Greg Bach

think you need to do enough Australian accent there.

It's like this is like the fifth Australia slash New Zealand story we've done.

Do you feel like you're missing an opportunity?

Absolutely.

Anything else you

Jane Matenaer

want to get out and say?

I love to

Greg Bach

say thanks for everyone for listening.

We're really happy to have you aboard and it's great show.

Tomorrow's gonna be great.

You're retiring tomorrow.

Jane Matenaer

My final final show after 45.

Plus years, we're rounding, or 44, we're rounding up to 45.

Yeah,

there you

Jane Matenaer

go.

Dan Schaefer will be here.

We're going to have JR Radcliffe will be here.

An old colleague and good friend of mine, Melissa Barclay is going to join us and I understand their surprises.

Greg Bach

There's going to be surprises and I will say that the videos that Corey has diligently digitized, some of those will be played throughout the day as well.

It's going to be a fun time.

Jane Matenaer

It's worth it just to see how big my perm was.

It's a big perm.

It's a huge.

Greg Bach

A lot of

Jane Matenaer

hair.

Greg Bach

It's its own zip

Jane Matenaer

code kind of perm.

Greg Bach

In a pre-high definition widescreen world, it was

Jane Matenaer

a lot.

Greg Bach

It was like 75% hair.

That's a

Jane Matenaer

lot of perm.

Thank you Greg and Calvin and all of our engineers and everyone at Civic Media because without you, nothing works.

And thank you most of all for calling and texting and watching on the live stream and for listening.

It means the world.

I hope you find some joy today.

and you get the chance to share it.

We have news coming up next.

The next keyword coming up in the 11 o'clock hour with Tom Hartman.

So keep it right here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Have a great day.

We will see you tomorrow.

Kathryn Lake

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