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Right now though, we are going to talk about Fair Maps in Wisconsin.
Nicole Gabriel is with Fair Maps Coalition.
She's a volunteer and relational organizer.
Nicole, good morning.
Thank you so much for joining us.
How are you?
For having me.
I'm great.
Wonderful.
Thank you.
So where are we with maps?
We know that one set of maps in Wisconsin has gotten changed, but now we are looking at more changes.
So where are we exactly on on fair maps in Wisconsin legislative maps?
the legislative maps.
Yeah, so our legislative maps were recently redrawn in 2024.
Our state Supreme Court found that those maps were unconstitutional based on non-contiguity, which basically means that there were various districts on those maps that were not physically connected to each other.
So as it stands right now, our legislative maps are maybe not completely fair, but they're fairer than they were.
Yes, than they were previously.
However, the process that we have in place, like the process that gave us those gerrymandered maps in the first place is the same process that we have in place right now.
And the same process that we could potentially have in place after 2030 when our maps are redrawn.
So if we don't have a different process in place by 2030, we could just end up with the same gerrymandered maps we started with.
And as for our congressional maps, those weren't touched.
But the congressional maps are still gerrymandered.
So from what we've seen coming out since the passing of the new map structure for Wisconsin, what is being done to secure that we don't go through this again?
Because those maps were just changed.
And now we're less than a few years away from doing it all over again.
So what is the goal for Wisconsin as far as making fair?
I want to say safe maps, right?
So we're not doing this over and over or every 10 years.
We're changing the maps and five years later we're back in the courts.
What is being done to help make this process consistent and easier?
Well, right now the Wisconsin Fair Maps Coalition is working with the League of Women Voters.
We actually have a group of volunteers from the League of Women Voters that have drafted a proposed piece of fair maps legislation.
It's called an independent redistricting commission legislation.
We don't have a bill number quite yet, but they have drafted this proposed piece of legislation based on how we've seen other states successfully kill their gerrymander.
So for example, states like Arizona, Colorado, and Michigan, and what the...
Sorry, my cat wants to join the redistricting conversation.
No problem.
Every voice
counts.
Every voice counts, Nicole.
Everyone
gets to be heard.
Everyone gets to be
heard.
He loves to talk about redistricting.
Everyone gets
to be heard.
Yeah.
Dumb joke.
Sorry.
Go on.
Oh no, that's okay.
So yeah, what the the League of Women Voters ad hoc redistricting committee has done is they've kind of Frankensteined a Wisconsin model based off of best practices that they've taken from those other states that have successfully implemented an independent redistricting commission.
And what an independent redistricting commission is is it's an in just like it sounds it's an commission completely independent of the legislature that draws the maps and it's
it's comprised of citizen commissioners, so no more politicians drawing the voting maps that secures their own seats.
That's a really important point, folks, that I think just needs to be repeated.
Do we want our elected officials to be the ones who get to decide where their district is?
They don't get to pick their voters.
We get to pick our representatives.
And by allowing our politicians to have a voice in this on all sides.
Because we've seen what's happened in Illinois.
That's very heavily gerrymandered.
And I don't think a lot of Wisconsinites want that here either.
But it's about, again, are we going to allow our politicians to pick their voters?
Or is it going to be the other way around, the way it's supposed to be?
And I think the, the, the examples you brought up is really good, Nicole, because, you know, one we have, you have, I'm not doing anything, I'm talking to you, but like you have examples of not only the program working, but you've got it from two states that when you say, what do you think of Colorado?
Most people are going to say it's quote blue.
And you say, what do you think about Arizona?
Most people are going to say
it's red.
So what we see is two very different examples, two different states using the same idea to help create a more stable.
system of making sure that our voices are represented properly because I worked in small government in 2009 and 2010 and I watched our city administrator go through his comments on what the maps should look like and he said to me at one point he was, I've poured over these maps for weeks.
I know they're not going to listen to me at all because those politicians had their own agenda.
And so what we do is we take that away from them and we put it in, as you said, Nicole, independent individuals who have the best interest of the people in mind versus a party, hopefully, hopefully.
Hopefully, yeah.
And in those states in, in, in, uh, Arizona and Colorado where they did this, Nicole, where did they get these, uh, these people from?
I mean, were these volunteers?
Did they volunteer to be on the, on the maps commission?
I'm just curious.
Well, they are paid.
Um, so they are paid commissioners and it's basically just, um, residents from the state.
So anybody who at least.
based on our model, anyone who is of voting age can apply.
And there are certain things that can disqualify them.
For example, if they're like an immediate family member of a current politician or something like that.
Makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there are certain things that can disqualify them from the commission, but basically it's just regular citizens.
So we want, um, what those states have done and what we want for Wisconsin is for anybody who's a voting, who's a registered voter in Wisconsin can apply for this commission and be considered.
Okay.
I mean, we're talking about these, but there's also, of course, in the news, we see a lot about the congressional maps as well.
And it's as far as I know, if I'm correct, they want to try to get this done before April.
So it's like,
more fair, that's not it.
More balanced, there we go.
But do you think, Nicole, that that is a possibility to get it done in, I mean, honestly, less than four months now with everything going on with all the elections?
I mean, what is the feasibility of that to get it kickstarted and actually happen and implemented in time?
I do think that it's possible for this to get done before April.
I know that I think it's the
Wisconsin business leaders for democracy v. Weck is the the court case that's challenging that and they are they're taking steps.
So I think the most recent update from them was that a three a judge panel was finally appointed that will agree to hear the case.
So it's moving forward.
So I do think that it's possible that it can get done by April.
That would be that would be huge.
That would be huge.
I'm sure it's not going to be without its fights too because if you we saw a lot of fighting over the past how many years saying
trying to invoke the Constitution, Wisconsin, democracy, all those things saying, we can't redo these maps now because dot, dot, dot, but you have to do them sometime.
And if it's possible, at least to look at them, I think that's an important thing.
It seems there are people out there who really want this to happen.
If you're just joining us on Matt Nair on air, our guest is Nicole Gabriel.
She is with the Fair Maps Coalition, a volunteer in the relational.
organizer, and we are talking obviously about maps in Wisconsin and most recently trying to get the the house districts redrawn by April 8th to two lawsuits, as you said, Nicole, are pushing forward with this.
Is there anything that folks who are listening can do?
I mean, other than possibly apply or I don't know, reach out to the League of Women Voters, what what can regular folks do about this if they would like to get involved?
Yeah, so there's a number of things they can do.
So our website is fairmapswi.com.
Again, shameless plug here.
That's fairmapswi.com.
So if you want to volunteer with us, please head over to our website and submit the volunteer form.
We're also hosting presentations all across the state to
educate people on gerrymandering in wisconsin and also our proposal to implement an independent redistricting commission so if you'd like to help us uh help host us at your group um at your church wherever um reach out to us and we can
come around and do a presentation to you and your network.
Another thing that people can do is that they can contact their legislators to pressure them to support this very important piece of legislation.
So on our website, we also have a call script and an email template to make it easier for people to reach out to their legislators.
And we also have some pointers on how to find out who your legislators are.
And the last thing,
Sorry, the last thing I want to mention that people can do is that
Well, firstly, we are hoping to get this bill passed during this current legislative session.
However, if for whatever reason this bill doesn't pass during this current legislative session, then we will be working with the governor assembly members and senators that are voted in during the general election next year.
And so what people can do is they can go into the general elections knowing what their candidate's stances are on independent redistricting legislation.
going to going to them asking them point blank what their stances are on that and then being prepared to vote accordingly.
If you are not sure who is your elected representative, there's an easy way to find out.
It's called W I.
Very
easy.
It's a very easy website.
Myvote.wi.gov.
That's it.
Go there and put in your information.
It will tell you who represents you from the president down to the dog catcher if that's the person you vote for.
Also, you can find out your voting registration information.
That's always important to keep up on as well.
You want to make sure you are registered to vote in your proper district.
But go to myvote.wi.gov.
Call.
email if you have the chance maybe visit if they're around but be respectful tell them that these are important things for you and as you said Nicole I think that's very very it's very much a part of like who we look for in our candidates is who are the people who are going to bring the most most payoff for our voice as far as like who will actually represent us in Madison who will be the actual voice of the people and those
who want to run for office or for reelection have a responsibility to answer these questions, especially when it comes to the matter of fair maps, because I don't want to be doing this every few years.
We just need a system that works and works for everyone.
Well, and I think it's important as well that politicians should be auditioning for us.
We shouldn't be auditioning for them.
They work for us.
They are supposed to sell us on them.
Yeah, that's their job.
Yeah.
I'm curious, Nicole, when you do go out into the community, are you hearing from all sides of the aisle?
I can't imagine that that every Republican thinks that gerrymandering is great.
Or do they?
I don't know.
No, they don't.
I mean,
Most counties in Wisconsin have passed non-binding referendums in favor of independent redistricting legislation.
In fact, it might be every single county, actually, that has passed non-binding referendums.
So we know that it's not just Democrats that disagree with gerrymandering.
It's people from both sides of the aisle.
Yeah.
And I think that's an important thing to keep in mind, too, because I feel like this discussion can get so waylaid by the politics of it all to make it very
Talking point heavy, but really when we're coming when we're talking when we're getting down to the nuance of it all this is about having a fair system which creates a a an election that allows all to run and I don't know be that I keep saying the proper voice of the people
Get involved
It's not too late.
No, it's not.
There's always time.
We'll include links in our show notes to the Fair Maps Coalition.
Nicole, Gabriel, thank you so very much for joining us.
Really, really appreciate it.
Thank you, guys.
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Pam Yankee is gonna join us.
to talk a little bit about the bailout that little Trump announced yesterday, 11, $12 billion.
It'll be 16 by when it's
all done.
By the time it's done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they can start applying for it from what I heard this morning next month.
Okay.
So I would assume that by the time they get their payments, it's going to be three or four months.
I know.
Again, long-term planning.
Yeah, exactly.
So we'll talk to Pam Yankee about that.
At least a little relief seems to be coming for our farmers, if nobody else.
Something we wanted to talk about quickly because this is another thing that's kind of going underneath the radar with everything else that's going on.
We did mention this Netflix deal.
Yeah.
It was just mentioned at the beginning of this week.
Yep.
$82 billion dollars to
buy Netflix.
Well now This from the Daily Beast Donald Trump and Jared Kushner's plot to turn CNN full mega is exposed Donald Trump wants to see changes at CNN David Ellison is the son of billionaire Trump buddy Larry Ellison David Ellison is tailing administration officials.
He'll make big changes to CNN
if Paramount's hostile bid to buy Warner Brothers Discovery goes through.
I know.
I mean, the reason the reason Paramount launched a $108 billion hostile takeover bid backed by Jared Kushner, because Jared Kushner is a part of this whole thing.
Exactly.
After it lost out to Netflix in the bidding war for Warner's, which owns.
Hollywood Studios, CNN, HBO, HDTV, a whole bunch of movie and TV shows.
After news broke that Netflix bid to take over Warner would be accepted, Larry Ellison called Trump to warn that this would hurt competition.
So just give it to us.
Well, they also told Warner Brothers that this will go a lot smoother in the process because you've got
Larry Ellison, who is a friend of Trump as well as his son in law, Jared Kushner, the man who does everything apparently.
So yeah, this was, I think it was within 24 hours of the Netflix deal being announced because it hasn't gone through.
No one's bought anybody yet.
It will be months before anything officially goes through.
But I think, yeah, it is.
very telling that they're not being secret at all about what A, they want to do and B, how they are going to do it.
And it is by sucking up to the president, the administration, and by using his son-in-law to get there.
So, I don't know, this goes back to the idea that eventually there'll be one company.
One media company.
Well, no, there can be one company.
There'll just be one company eventually.
Which is not good.
No, it's not.
That's not good for...
any of us.
I was, I was under the impression that a marketplace thrives with competition and you can't have competition when, when there is none or there's very little and all of them are owned by multi-billionaire conglomerates who are run by multi-billionaires to begin with.
It just means that it gets, everything gets watered down, everything gets not great.
And it's all about
it's all about how do they make their money then their clicks their likes their engagement all that corporate speak and not producing I mean look if you're in a media company your job is to produce good media and they don't have to do that when they own every business across the street or they bought that business when
they own everything and I also personally this is a very Victor Orban kind of thing Victor Orban when he was elected in Hungary essentially took over all the universities
And then he took over all the independent media companies.
And if we're going to have all buddies of the person in the old office dictating the news we hear, the news we see, it's one big propaganda operation.
It's not good.
Well, the thing is, it's like, I don't know, propaganda is one thing, but also just the fact that I go back to, I want these companies to make good television and movies.
I want them to actually
Want to create great programming because that's the point of TV and movies is to be entertained and when they don't have to do that and You'll be happy
with
what we give you and also let's also be honest, too I'll bet you a lot of money that most of the people don't even really like the guy that they know they have to get in tight with them in order to do anything and therefore they have to
Throw him a bone.
Here's here.
Make up a
make up a prize.
Here's a prize.
Here's a TV show.
Here's an appearance.
Here's a show.
Here's a thing for your kid, your grand kid, like all that stuff.
When they don't want to do it in the first place, they just want, they just want to do what they always do is make money and lots of it.
And that is us.
Once again, sitting here as the people who are paying for it.
We're the ones paying for, by the way, they might be on the stock market and they might, and they may be the billionaires, but it's our dollars that pay for their boats.
Speaking of our dollars.
Yeah.
Our dollars, apparently going to be going to help out some of our farmers who have been hurt by Trump's tariff policies.
We'll talk about that and so much more on the other side.
The fabulous farm babe, Pam Yonkey, is going to be joining us after the 1030 News, so stay close.
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Pam Yonkey is here.
Good morning, my friend.
How are
you?
Hello, honey.
How are you?
Congratulations on one foot out the door.
Thank you.
Yes.
My final show Friday.
Mm hmm.
After 44 years.
Oh my goodness.
I bet you've been doing it as long as you've been in broadcasting as long as me.
Well, yeah, I mean, it's the only thing I've ever done.
I started my first I got a national farm broadcaster scholarship in 86 which already dates me and then I started working in 87 in farm broadcasting I've been in Madison since 90
Wow Wow, you've been around a long time
and I'm really kind of you know as many of us in the business would say We're like dodo birds.
You don't see many of us anymore that made a career out of being in radio and especially a farm broadcaster.
I mean that
To make it through ownership changes and format changes and all that kind of stuff.
I'm I'm pretty blessed.
So what I'm loving it Well, you
you perform a really important service though and everybody talks about how important our farmers are and we give a lot of lip service to our farmers you actually do it and and and and Cover things I think that are critically important and and you have a very important lane that you fill you have a very important spot that you fill
I thought it was interesting before the break talking about how thin journalists are in a lot of regards.
Greg, you were mentioning about entertainment, and now that's all of a sudden getting to be a pretty narrow batch.
Yes.
It's the same with farm broadcasters.
When I started in farm broadcasting, man, I think I want to say there was somewhere in the neighborhood of
close to 300 certified farm broadcasters across the United States.
And now our numbers are down to about 190.
Now granted, the industry's changed.
You know, I used to be on just one radio station.
Now I'm on 38.
So I get it.
It's kind of like farms.
Farms used to be, you know, 50 cows and 200 acres.
Well, now farms are 1000 cows and 1000 acres.
So it's kind of, it keeps up with the scale, but
to your point.
It's hard to cover a lot of those bases when you are just one.
Yeah,
no kidding.
And I would say, you know, I have learned a lot over these past few years about the farmers here, the farming industry, and what they're really looking for.
I would say, you know, and this question is for people on any side of the aisle who vote for whomever, what are the big points you feel like the non-farmers
who say they support the farmers are missing in this world.
What are we missing?
What are we not seeing that really should open our eyes to see the struggle of what's going on in our farmlands here in Wisconsin and throughout the country?
Well, let's take, for example, the announcement made yesterday about the Farmer Bridge program.
We've been talking about that and talking about that for months.
So a lot of farmers in Wisconsin had already kind of factored in, something's coming.
And now one thing I guess,
i i understand my job as a journalist is to be switzerland i'm the middle of the road sure i have no opinion you should you i should never give you an impression that i have an opinion that i believe is my responsibility and i kind of instill that my staff too we are we are switzerland we have no opinion so one thing i ask people to think about when they hear of these announcements take it a little step further one of my commodity brokers on the show this morning reminded people that almost
100% of the money that is going to be coming from the federal government, regardless of size, will be going to pay bills that are currently on our books.
Everything has gone up as far as price, fertilizer, herbicides, the seed, labor, diesel, everything has gone up, land rents.
And as a farm kid, I'm absolutely serious about this.
They will put that check in the bank.
And they will write a check to the co-op, to the seed dealer, to the petro person, and it will be flat.
It will be, yeah, it's not like somebody's going to be riding around in an escalade.
It just doesn't work that way in agriculture.
We are in so many years hand to mouth.
All we're trying to do is get to next year because we are eternal optimists.
Next year will be better.
Things will be better.
And now remember this program also only covers in Wisconsin.
corn, soybeans, peas, oats, wheat.
I'm gonna miss another one.
Barley.
There's only six commodities in this 12 billion, which yesterday, Brooke Rollins, US Ag Secretary, corrected Trump.
It's 11 billion.
Exactly.
Those six crops in Wisconsin are the only ones that are going to see any money.
So our dairy faction is still waiting.
Our pork producers are still waiting.
Anybody that doesn't grow those six crops like hate producers pasture is they're all kind of waiting but then again their markets with the exception of dairy I've got to say dairy has been impacted by the international stuff, but you know the other markets are a little bit less Ruffled so
well and you are a journalist and you have I think probably more lines and to the people who talk than we do sometimes and beef has been a
big problem for our American farmers.
There's been a lot of talk, a lot of discussion from the administration about where we should buy beef.
And then Brooke, Brooke Rollins came out and said, we want to make it more, make it easier for people to become beef farmers.
And I don't know about you, Pam.
I don't know anybody who wakes up on a Friday and says, you know what, I want to be a farmer.
So do you hear anything coming down the pike?
Any chatter about possible bailout money for the beef farmers who are definitely struggling as well?
No, nothing at all.
Okay.
All right.
They're not struggling.
They're not struggling.
They're
not.
Not struggling.
Beef is about one of the only sectors that's holding its own.
And because our beef herd is so low, dairy has stepped into that fold
with what
we call beef on dairy.
That is about the only upside for our dairy producers.
They've been able to pay some bills because the beef market's good.
So they're selling steers, they're selling call cows, they're selling that to, so it's like Robin Peter to pay Paul.
I'll sell these beef animals to try to pay for
My dairy cows for right now.
And so, no, beef is fine.
And to your point, we just had a story about how many young people and people in second careers want to do exactly what you just said.
I'd love to have a couple beef.
I'd love to have a grow a larger, you know, like maybe a farm market garden.
There are a lot of people that would love to get an agriculture.
Maybe not dairy because that's a lot of overhead.
Maybe not big cash crop unless you're connected with somebody.
But
if people can find the acreage, they'd love to have beef.
They'd love to have sheep.
We've seen how backyard birding has reconnected people with
their version of farming.
And there are a lot of young people that would like to get involved in, I call them gardens and I don't mean to be disrespectful.
I'm lacking a phrase of, you know, the fresh produce market.
So like, there's a farmer mentor program going on right now where they're putting these people with farmers that have been in the business, so that they have somebody to lean on when they have questions.
So there are actually
more people than you expect that want to get into agriculture.
There's even more people, Greg, that work a second job so they can be in agriculture.
And that is, I don't know how to explain it.
If you live it and you're in it, you know it.
Maybe it's the same way that we look at something like somebody that's just rabid about race cars.
They have to, they are dedicated to their race cars, but it's not financially viable, so they still have to work.
an off-track job, if you know what I mean.
A lot of those kinds of things that are happening in production agriculture is another one where people want it so bad.
that the work is second job just to have it.
If you're just joining us on that near on air, Pam Yankee is our guest.
She is the fabulous farm babe talking among other things about the $11 billion bailout coming to some of our farmers.
Going back to beef prices, Pam, the one thing I want to talk about though are the processors because that seems to be the biggest issue as far as the cost of beef because if I tell me if I'm wrong, there are only like four
processing plants in the country, so they control everything.
Well, they do control a lot.
You're right.
And that's why the president has said that he was going to make sure he was going to investigate antitrust.
That's been something that groups like the Wisconsin Farmers Union have been asking for for a long time.
We just found out that a plant in Nebraska, big
Tyson plant Nebraska beef processing is going to close.
Now that had been talked about in the industry for a while because it's antiquated.
It's a old facility.
It's not efficient.
And we just have to remember.
At the crux of this is we just don't have a lot of beef cattle.
Our beef herds are at historical lows, which has given dairy the chance.
And those processors suffer with those low numbers as well.
They just can't make their plants run as efficiently as their equations.
are lined up to.
So it's true.
And I do find fault with the beef processors, especially when my beef producers aren't getting the money.
But right now, beef producers are sitting on the happy side of the equation.
And a lot of our producers that are the processors are a little bit more lean.
So there's plenty of
plenty of conversation going around about who did what and why and who should be held accountable.
And to your point, Greg, we are already getting small amounts of Argentinian beef and Brazilian beef in, but it's low, low, low quality.
It's basically blended to keep your hamburgers at fast food restaurants cheaper so that you can afford them.
It's fine.
It's safe, but it's never going to make a dent the way that has been promised.
would be the dent to bring consumer prices down it just doesn't have the steam people don't realize what a big industry beef is in the united states
and i think it's an important reminder to him one of the reasons why our stock is so low is because a few years ago there was a terrible drought that affected a big portion of the country and a lot
of our
a lot of our ranchers.
It was cheaper to send their cows to slaughter than to try and feed them.
It was simply too expensive.
They had to.
They had to.
And the other thing, Jane, it's kind of you and I talking.
The average age of a rancher or beef producer is about like you and I in
their
sixties.
When you walk out the door, are you ready to jump in and get in high debt to
replenish your beef and keep things going.
So there's a lot of dynamics going on there.
But yeah, like you said, the bottom line is between the snowstorms that have froze cattle to the ground, the drought, which provides no food at all.
And now the screwworm, new world screwworm in Mexico that allows us to not exchange cattle with Mexico, all of it comes together to really reflect in the beef prices you're paying today.
And that's I guess that was the crux of the question is
will, you know, any sort of relief that comes because it seems like, I don't want to say the worst of it, but like some of the biggest effects are still yet to come with like with the screw room and everything.
But will there be money set aside to help these 60, some year old beef herders who were just trying to make it, if they have to, you know, make tough choices, they have to make tough choices every day, every year.
But, you know,
They know that there has been talk from the administration that there will be some financial stimulus to try to help the next generation of farmers.
But again, you really got to look at it enterprise by enterprise, commodity by commodity in almost geographic region by geographic region, because I'll tell you what, raising beef here in Wisconsin on a dairy operation where we've got all kinds of corn, all kinds of water, all kinds of space versus running them across
government land in the Sierra Nevada and trying to keep them going there and put gain on them, two very different business models.
So I don't know, Greg, like I said, I know the administration has promised that they're going to try to help make those young opportunities for young producers.
We will see.
We will
see.
She is the fabulous farm babe.
It has been such a delight working with you and getting to know you over the years.
Pam, thank you so very, very much.
Enjoy it
right off into the
sunset
with your hair on fire.
Thank you so much.
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Tisbet for today.
From
Wisconsin Public Radio, Rich Creamer with the byline, the headline reads, Gobbler Problem.
After repeated attacks, Eau Claire to relocate troublesome turkeys.
Yeah.
City officials working with the USDA to stop menacing males that sent one person to the hospital.
What?
A group of aggressive male turkeys in Eau Claire generating police calls.
causing one local resident to avoid a walking trail and also sent a guy to the hospital with a one inch cut to his arm.
In May, an Eau Claire resident showed video on a local TV station in which two male turkeys were chasing a woman who's yelling behind her, I'm sorry.
I'm
sorry.
Stop yelling at me.
I'm sorry.
It's very, very Wisconsin.
It's very Wisconsin.
Another resident told the DV station the same birds chased him during a run.
DNR gave the city some advice to share.
They said, if you stand your ground, aggressive turkeys should turn tail and run.
In this instance, that did not work.
All right.
I'm gonna put forth a little piece of information here, and I wanted to reframe the way we're seeing this whole thing.
I don't think they're being aggressive, and I don't think they're unwarranted.
America consumes 46 million turkeys a year on Thanksgiving alone.
Doesn't this feel like some very forgiving payback?
I mean, they're not going at us the birds style, they're just saying, hey!
We see what you're doing.
We know what you did.
And I want to know what he went to the hospital for, too, by the way.
A
gentleman that was on TV got interviewed.
He said he stood his ground against the aggressive turkeys, kicked one of them in the head, which made it more aggressive.
Oh, shocking.
He ended up with a one inch cut on his hands, had to go to the hospital to get a tetanus shot update.
Bergus said the city has now decided to relocate the turkeys, but where they'll go, no one knows.
Some place where it's very unlikely they will encounter human traffic.
They've been asked to look around the wooded area between this particular trail and the river so that they can drop a net to catch them.
I don't know why.
I'm just on the turkey side right now.
Obviously, you are siding with the turkeys.
Well, first of all, don't kick a turkey in the head.
Apparently, that doesn't work.
And also, rude.
And second of all, I would say this.
If you're going to run away, I would just scream the following words.
I understand your frustration and I too feel bad for everything.
And just keep on booking it back to your safe, warm house where your turkeys can't get to you.
I guess, Mike, because they have turkeys in Wauertosa.
Yeah.
And I was there last week and one turkey stopped.
Traffic.
Yeah, North Avenue.
And Jane, what did you say your solution to that was?
Why can't
we shoot
him?
Yeah, there you go.
What a what a fair-minded Just a great response.
We
have
turkey hunting season.
Oh, do you want to call Bill and get up all in his in his is Duds be like, hey, we got a turkey situation Come on on down to like, you know the corner of this and this and you know blast it away Maybe it's
I person.
I maybe it's I have a problem with their attitude
They're just so what are you gonna?
What are you gonna?
They didn't provoke this they didn't provoke this they are the defenders You are the aggressor and I feel I stand up for turkeys.
I'm with you turkeys Really what I'm saying is please don't attack me just know that I was always on your side
City officials say turkeys living in larger cities could be very used to people
Mm-hmm
and that can lead to issues when males are fighting for dominance during the mating season
of course, it's dudes
natural also, how do you
get
used to humans.
I'd love to find that out.
That's great.
There's a way to make that happen.
How do you get used to humans?
I'm still trying to figure out how to get used to humans.
You're not
used to humans yet.
Not
lately.
You stop chasing people, though.
I won't go that far.
Okay.
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