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He just had a movie premiere
He had a movie premiere and Detroit got a brand new statue.
That's right.
So Pete Schwabba going to be joining us with all things entertainment after the 1030 news.
Right now, though, we are joined.
She owns Kelly's Greens in Wauwatosa.
Erin Kelly is our guest.
Good morning, Erin.
Thanks so much for making time for us.
How are you?
Good morning.
I'm well.
Thanks so much for having me.
It's great to be
Delighted to have you back.
Wanted to do this before I head out the door for the last time on Friday.
We had you on a couple of weeks ago when we found out that as part of the stopgap measure to reopen the government, they slipped in a little measure, essentially kicking the whole issue of hemp and hemp-related products back to the states.
And this kind of took everybody by surprise.
First of all, for people who don't know, what do you do at Kellys Greens in Wauwatosa?
At Kelly's Greens, we specialize in making small batch handcrafted edibles with hemp drive THC.
in
No, imagine that.
We do not sell our products to anybody under 21 at our shop.
Turns out when a new industry is created seven years ago, the market puts regulations in place to protect our consumers right here.
He's all about protecting children.
We have to protect children.
We have to keep our children safe from these hemp products.
And so ostensibly, this is his issue with the hemp industry in Wisconsin.
We were talking about this off the air, though, Erin.
Child safety containers.
Is it difficult for a child to open a bottle of booze?
Do we have special things for cigarettes?
Is it difficult for children to get into a pack of cigarettes?
It seems as though the safety requirements that we're proposing for THC products here in Wisconsin are very different from the safety protocols that we have put in place or haven't put in place for alcohol in Wisconsin for all of these years.
And when we spoke last, it came down from the federal government.
And then I cannot remember his last name.
I just know it's difficult to pronounce.
He's from Hubertus.
He's a rep from Hubertus.
He proposed just doing away with it completely.
His stance was too bad, so sad.
You knew what could have happened.
And really a heartless attitude towards business owners, customers, employees.
the economy of Wisconsin, but also since then there has been a new measure, Erin.
We spoke about briefly a bipartisan bill coming forward that makes it actually a little bit easier and will protect the business owner.
Can you talk more about that?
Yes, it's exciting news here in Wisconsin.
You know, we are relying on a Wisconsin hemp plan to protect consumers that buy our products, the businesses that are out there and the farmers that grow hemp right here in Wisconsin.
So the bill that's on the table is interesting because it's been proposed by Republican Senator Teston.
So rumor on the street is he didn't really like the approach of this three tiered tavern league backed
program that was being put in place for Wisconsin.
And so Senator Tessen penned a bill that would do just that protect the consumers, keep the dollars right here in Wisconsin, protect the businesses and the farmers.
So now we just need to get the support behind this bill to get this in place by the time session ends in April.
So timing is everything right now.
That's right.
The momentum is.
imperative.
The economic impact alone to Wisconsin would be so devastating.
So when you think about hemp, Wisconsin is the number six state in this country.
So it is a cash crop right here.
It's perfect for our farmers and we want to keep it like that.
Precisely.
Precisely.
We're relying on hemp for products that we sell in our shop, but to be perfectly honest, hemp is used for lots of things that are quite handy and relevant in today's society.
And the other thing we talk about too is, you know, I don't mean to disregard your experience on the whole thing, but if we take out a context or take out of the conversation, the business owners, the customers, the employees, the farmers,
That means that people will do one of two things.
They will drive to a state where they can find it legally and they will give that state their tax dollars or they will obtain it illegally or
even worse, maybe try to obtain another remedy of taking care of the pain they're going through.
So it seems very, I mean, it's par for the course in this movement of whatever you want to call it, MAGA GOP.
But the short-sighted measure of just saying, well, too bad, so sad, we gotta protect the kids.
Okay, that's a 1950s answer for a 2025 problem.
And what...
Senator Teston's coming forth with is, no, let's be a little more pragmatic.
The question I actually do have for you, Aaron, is that in that bill, we talked about this on the air, it seemed like they threw an extra step in for you and business owners like yourself, where you have to get it tested.
Like there's outside testing that must go forward and that feels like that's a little bit That's more money for you to spend because who's certified to do that and you have to do that for everything What are your thoughts on the measures that are in the bill?
I'm so glad you asked.
So we already third party test all of the products that we sell in our shop.
So the way we built the business was making edibles and small batch handcrafted cookies and truffles.
And so the way the bill is proposed, the language in there would essentially mean that we would have to have a test for each small batch of cookies.
We're talking four dozen or three dozen cookies at a time.
We would have to have a test that would cost our small business four to $500 for each.
batch.
So currently, our credit card processor, our insurance, every regulatory body recognizes the ingredients that we use that are third party tested that are going into our baked goods.
But the proposed bill would essentially make it too expensive for us to be able to continue to make these small batch handcrafted craft cannabis products made with Wisconsin ingredients right here.
I think that the measure is being put in place with other things in mind.
And I think that's really part of the problem.
We need this bill to drive cannabis forward in the state of Wisconsin,
one particular facet of the industry.
And so I'm all for third party testing, but there should be an exclusion in this bill that says for small.
handcrafted craft products being made in Wisconsin with a third-party tested ingredient, no, you do not need a four to $500 test for 40 cookies.
Well,
100% exactly.
Now, is that a conversation that you and people in like your specific niche of the industry, the small batch handcrafted?
part of the business are those discussions that you are having with lawmakers to say, all right, we need to amend the language.
We need to make sure we include everybody.
And we're, you know, because that, uh, yeah, that'd be great if it passes.
But if that puts you out of business, because you can't afford it, but are those conversations that you're having with the lawmakers right now, are they, are they welcoming the, that discussion to their offices?
Unfortunately, what I'm hearing is that the state plans that are being proposed in the state of Wisconsin don't have a chance to be passed, that we're not going to get the bipartisan support that we need.
And regardless of the fact that constituents in Wisconsin have come out and overwhelmingly supported that we want a medical marijuana and a cannabis program here, our lawmakers are not going to make it happen because it doesn't personally profit or benefit them.
Right.
How are we going to protect the kids with the taxation plan that's being presented for hemp products versus alcohol?
Right.
So not exactly equal or even relatively in the same world.
If you're just joining us on Matt and Aaron, we're speaking to Aaron Kelly, who is the owner of Kelly's Greens.
It's a cannabis boutique and cafe in Wallatosa.
She's been our guest before and she's returning to talk to us about state legislation that's being passed around that would, I would say help, but we would help some producers of hemp.
but would also make it more difficult for someone in Aaron's situation by increasing processes, which increases the cost, which if you can be in business, then increases the prices for the customers who walk through the door.
And for me, the problem is, I mean, I'm all for, I mean, I do not use the products, it's just my choice, but I'm all for legalization of marijuana, medical and recreational.
My thing is that as we go forward every year, we have new information.
We have, we have more people saying yes to this.
We have more people who probably voted for both parties, all three party, all the parties who can disagree on many things, but this is what they can agree upon.
The problem is, is as we know more and we trust the science and the medicinal properties of it all, we still get these.
Politicians who are coming at us with 1980s just say no reasons not to do it that are not based in science that are based in their gut It's just a simple way to scare people and the problem is folks still listen to it.
They say well, we gotta protect the kids Well, yes, we yes, we must that's a great idea a wonderful wonderful plan right there But there are so many other things we're not protecting kids from why is this the thing that is so?
So important to you because it's in front of our faces.
They don't have new information that says that
Consuming cannabis, hemp products is bad for a person like as bad as maybe other things.
And also there isn't an uprising of kids walking into your shop, Aaron, who are just accessing all of these products.
No, not at all.
That is not happening.
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Once he's gone, we might have a chance at legislation.
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We are joined by Erin Kelly.
She's the owner of Kelly's Greens Cannabis Boutique and Cafe in Wauwatosa.
I am a patron.
Glad to have Erin back talking about some bipartisan legislation now in Wisconsin about the hemp industry.
And as you had mentioned in the first segment to Erin, and I just want to reiterate this, the hemp industry is worth about $28 billion nationwide.
We're talking about a lot of money.
We're starting to hear that the $28 billion estimate is being grossly understated.
And it seems to be that's happening for a reason because the industry is being taken over and shut down.
So everyone's expecting big alcohol to have a move here after this ban.
takes into effect and they're going to save us and bring these beverages back.
I mean, people because they want to take over all of the hemp infused drinks.
But they're not going to make the other part like say, like, you know, I've had a hemp infused drink there.
I don't enjoy them.
I would rather
use an edible or something like that?
Are they going to start doing edibles?
Is that the matter?
Because I know people aren't going to say, oh, I can't get my gummies anymore.
I'll drink a Bud Light.
That's not what's happening anymore.
They use these products for a specific reason.
And I don't think a giant global conglomerate is going to nail the industry as good.
I agree.
There's no way that big alcohol would be able to move cannabis forward in this country or even in this state.
We need experts that understand what the product is, not people that are willing to carve up the cannabis industry across this country to make a profit for their shareholders on the stock market.
And that's essentially what's happening is the biggest
alcohol, the big guys in the alcohol industry are investing into making hemp drive beverages, and they think they're going to run it.
And the bottom line is if we want to protect kids, we shouldn't be passing the cannabis beverages over to the alcohol industry seriously track record.
If
were, if only if
I do take this industry seriously.
My name is on everything at that shop.
I've been a cannabis user my entire adult life.
It has never stopped me from doing anything I have ever set out to.
In fact, it has helped me.
I rely on these products and I want them to stay here.
This feeling good is not a crime.
You know, it's like getting a good night's sleep and relieving pain.
That's what we're talking about.
And again, I think it's important that people understand that people who come to your shop come for many different reasons.
For me, it was I stopped drinking alcohol.
And this to me is a far better, far safer alternative when I want a little something that takes the edge off, but you deal with a lot of people who have chronic pain issues.
We have so many patients and customers that are being referred to our shop.
by medical providers.
That is simply unheard of.
And so medical doctors are putting their license on the line to recommend a cannabis-based product to their patient because it's the right thing to do.
Because it has less side effects as many prescription drugs.
It's accessible.
It's affordable.
It works.
And so we are now seeing that, yes, people are drinking less alcohol and people are choosing less prescription drugs for pain when there are alternatives.
Well, honestly, though, I mean, I think that while that I understand the discussion, I feel like when it comes to this topic, it's more important for people like Aaron to have a.
groups of individuals who can, who can advocate on behalf of small business owners.
Cause if I'm not mistaken, in Illinois, it's like one or two corporations owns all of the shops there.
It's, but they have different names.
So corporatizing or having big marijuana might also not be the answer because then also some big alcohol buys big marijuana.
It's about making sure Aaron, you have a voice.
I agree.
Cannabis should not be owned by a corporation.
Cannabis is owned by the people.
It should not be owned by a handful of corporations in Illinois that are profiting from selling a plant that people could grow in their own house.
Erin, we're going to present you with an honorary Beyond the Cheese hat.
that we had made from Wisconsin knitwear so graciously gave us these.
We did a segment for a while called Beyond the Cheese where we featured businesses outside of the dairy industry and you certainly fall within that category.
So congratulations.
I'll bring it in this week.
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Stop in and say hello to Aaron Kelly at Kelly's Greens, cannabis boutique and cafe in Wauwatosa.
Thank you so very much, Aaron.
Really, really appreciate it.
Thanks for having us.
Thanks for having me.
You'll be Miss Jane.
We will
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Today it's the surprise.
Edition so stay tuned for that right now.
We're joined by our colleague here at Civic Media He is the host of nightlight with Pete Schwabba from 5 to 8 p.m.
The aforementioned Pete Schwabba joined this good morning, sir.
How are you?
How are you guys doing?
Thank you for having me.
It's it's just a pleasure to be a colleague
I've been I've been self-employed most of my adult life and it wasn't until civic media that I became a colleague and that's a that makes me feel good Is this your first time as a colleague?
Well, I feel like staff writing jobs before but you don't really use vernacular like so you're part of
We had a yeah, we had a 20th anniversary screening of a film I made called the Godfather of Green Bay I made it 20 years ago with Lauren Holly Tony Goldwyn Tom Lennon Lance Barber and a host of great Milwaukee actors like Eric Price and Rob Martin and It was really fun.
We had we were at the Atwood Music Hall We filled all the seats that they set up.
We had over a hundred people.
It was
And I was saying, it's hard to give people to go to an independent film when it's new, much less 20 years ago when it's a title most people haven't heard of.
So yeah, we, uh, it was great showing for my colleagues at Civic Media and, uh, some old friends and some listeners.
It was a great mix of people, a lot of fun.
Lance Barber too, who was absolutely hilarious, played, played the father on young Sheldon for all this.
And he is so, so funny.
And Lauren Holly is Lauren Holly for gosh sakes.
I mean, I was, I remember the movie and I just, I forgot about the cast and when they announced, and you had them all on during the week to talk to them on the show because sharing their memories and some of them they were, I mean, Lance Barber was very young, I imagine when he did the movie.
He had, he had done.
yeah a few things but when we found him it was like oh my gosh he's on another level he's like uh john candy like ability he's also like a handsome guy you know and he's a great actor so we knocked it out of the park with the cast and they were all they've all come on the show over the years well the last two years and they're just uh
great people.
And we had the great music too.
Another Wisconsin tie-in was ban the Baudin's music.
Oh, that's awesome.
Is there
I just send a I send a an electronic mail and they typically get back to me in two to four weeks.
I've been happy to get back to me at all when I had a I had a high powered agent at one point and I was his last call of the day leaving the office at like 9 30 at night.
So I was like, all right, I can see where I am on the totem pole here.
But
Hello, Pete.
You're at
you're just joining us right now on Matt and air on air, we are in the middle of audio Sorbet where we take a moment, take a breath, take a step back and enjoy the lighter things.
And we are talking.
to the host of Nightlight with Pete Schwabba, Mr. Pete Schwabba, about his film, The Godfather of Green Bay, which just celebrated 20 years.
I saw the pictures of the event.
It looked great.
As you said, it was packed.
It looked like people were having a really fun time.
And what was the impetus of doing this?
Was this someone approach you?
Did you want to celebrate it?
Or is it how did you decide to re-release it for a night?
Um, no, they, uh, Catherine Lake reached out to me civic media and said, you know, John and Gordy could sponsor this and host the Q and A. And I was like, yeah, okay.
Like I hadn't seen the film probably in 12 years.
I think I screened it right when I moved back to Wisconsin and Sheboygan.
They had just redone this beautiful theater in Sheboygan.
And we played it there, and I don't think I've seen it since or screened it anywhere.
So I was a little nervous because I just wanted people to show up.
I didn't know if they would, but everybody at Civic did a great job.
It was really fun.
you know, at first.
And I think there are actors in two categories.
They either hate to watch themselves because they have some level of self-deprecation or whatever.
And then there are the ones that can't get enough of them.
You can't do, you
How dare you?
That fabulous face.
I did some background work for a TV show on adult swim a couple of years ago.
And to this day, people will still, every like six months, I'll get a message saying, is that you on talking with
I'm like, yeah, I've never watched it.
I never will.
I mean, I'm background.
It's not like it matters anyways, but still I can't watch.
Cause I'll think about what I was thinking about in that moment, the clothes I'm wearing, the hair I chose, everything.
Honestly, I can't remember Jane.
I think Lauren Holly maybe had been there once.
She had married a guy from Chicago at the time and they lived in the Chicago area.
But they, they totally embraced it, loved it.
Lauren Holly is actually from a small town in New York.
So she totally identified with everybody and she got it.
Yeah.
They got into it.
Yeah.
It was fun.
Oh, has there been any have there been any other movies Pete like are you work because one of the things we talked about and his name is escaping me right now And I feel very bad, but we talked about the fact that they
established, finally, a film office here in Wisconsin.
And is that going to empower you or your friends to start making more projects here in the state?
There was a lot of people that worked really hard to get those incentives passed.
And they did a great job.
I think the lowest budget is $100,000.
So
I'm kind of maybe going to help my son get a movie made or I do have a project that we were going to shoot in Minnesota like before COVID.
But that got shelved and now we can shoot it here, you know, that kind of thing.
So yeah, it definitely impacts.
I mean, why would I want to go give money to Minnesota where I can spend it right here in Wisconsin?
Not only in Wisconsin, but in my home town or county and beef up the economy there a little bit and give people that fun experience they had 20 years ago.
You know, it's funny when at our grade school when we were in Los Angeles, everybody, all the parents were in the industry, but there was a few character actors, but mostly it was, oh, I'm a truck driver for the studios or I'm a carpentry or set design, a grip.
Yeah, exactly.
So yeah, it employs a ton of people and it's a great economy.
And that's something that we really tried to talk about a lot when they took Jimmy Kimmel off the air for those few days is that this isn't just about firing Jimmy Kimmel.
This is about
hundreds of people losing their job, and they're not famous, and they're not rich either.
So these kinds of knock-on effects are affecting, I know it can be hard for some people to accept this, hard work in folks in Hollywood, because there are a lot of hard work in folks in Hollywood who... They don't get any love.
They don't get, yeah.
And they might be making...
six figures, but they're also living in Los Angeles and trying to exist.
So yeah, I mean that's, there's a lot of folks like that who are just living their lives doing their thing.
And I was just going to say, if you're making a movie Pete and you need a late forties guy with a mustache who wears more flannel than he should, I'm just saying I have a head shot.
I have a resume.
I've been an adult swim.
Just put it out there.
And it's funny that you guys say that because a lot of those hardworking people in LA are from Wisconsin Like I knew a ton of people out there that had moved out there because they wanted to do carpentry work or set work or set design or whatever Or special effects and you know, you're right.
That's a great point.
It does it affects a lot of people
I had the producer of The Godfather of Green Bay, Brian Edding was on the show last Wednesday.
He is born and raised.
He's just a Valley kid, grew up in like Woodland Hills.
He and his brother, two of the most down to earth guys,
I think it's the people that move out there and think they have to act a certain way where the weirdos come from because Brian came back to Marinette.
He had never been to Wisconsin and people liked him more than me and I was
Like, you know, you really can't judge people and you get, you go into the valley and people would say at my wife and our birthing class when we had our son, they're like, so you part of that whole Hollywood scene.
I'm like, you grew up five miles from the Hollywood side.
Like it's not definitely necessarily about.
location as it is a mindset, I guess.
Yeah, absolutely.
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This shouldn't be a thing.
That's my last day.
What?
I'm retiring.
Did no one tell you that?
No one told me this.
Surprise.
Speaking of surprise.
Speaking of surprise, we'll have some surprises.
Oh yeah, we'll have fun.
All right.
Yes, Tisbeth.
to a mob hit.
Instruction workers in Boston found what appeared to be a human skull buried in concrete.
The office of the chief medical examiner has since confirmed the skull was fake.
They were cutting along the pier of the city's black falcon terminal in Boston when they found the skull in alerted authorities.
One worker said he on the job couldn't believe it.
Photos shared to a local TV station showed what seemed to be a skull popping out of the concrete.
Their initial gut reaction to make some connection to a mob hit.
Jimmy Hoffa.
Bunch of notorious organized crime groups called the Boston Area Home over the years, including the Charleston Gang, the Winter Hill Gang, led by Whitey Bulger.
Balder.
I think that's funny that like, you know, I'm not saying I would go like walking up to them being all like snarky and in their face But but like the ever what the evergreen
What are they called?
What was the first game called the the Charlestown game?
It just sounds like a group that likes to dance a lot So what am I supposed to be afraid of also?
Let me just put something out here finding a skull in concrete in Boston should shock No one apparently these guys were new on the job and from like a much like they're from Kansas or something like it's The only thing that's shocking is we only found one
Why
This shouldn't be a
Yeah, no,
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