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I wanted to start off with this, though, because as we came on the air, the Epstein survivors were speaking

in front of the house, because today is the day they are supposed to vote on this discharge petition to release the Epstein files.

One thing I wanted to share real briefly that just makes me go, what?

Yesterday, the president of the United States.

Donald Trump.

Donald Trump.

Got it.

The president of the United States while on board Air Force One was asked by a female reporter

about the Epstein files she wanted to know.

She's from Bloomberg.

She wanted to know why the delay in releasing the Epstein files.

And Donald Trump's response to her was quiet, quiet piggy.

Quiet, quiet piggy.

From the president of the United States to a reporter.

To a reporter.

A female reporter.

Asked about the Epstein files.

So I just think that's kind of indicative.

I'll let you figure it out from there.

At the same time, Thomas Massey, who is the Republican who has been pushing for the release of the Epstein files for a long time now.

And also just a reminder too, he did not vote for the big bill for billionaires.

He voted against it.

Thomas Massey?

Yes, he did.

I think it's important to give him that credit as well.

He's a

Republican from Kentucky.

He launched the effort to force the release of the Epstein files.

Now, Massey told NBC News on Monday, quote, I'm concerned that now he, referring to Trump, is opening a flurry of investigations.

And I believe they may be trying to use those investigations as a predicate for not releasing the files.

That's my concern, unquote.

So Donald Trump said over the weekend, he on Sunday, I believe it was, he completely reversed himself.

Yes, let's release the files because there's a whole bunch of Democrats on it.

Yes.

Okay.

And so we need to reopen, reopen investigations into these Democrats.

Yeah.

Okay.

So I don't know a single person who identifies as Democrat, liberal, left, leftist, who is saying, don't release the Epstein files.

My favorite people might be on there.

I don't know anyone who does that.

So really,

You're saying release the Epstein files and most of us are saying yes do it and and let

the chips fall where they may

and if someone we love and adores on that list and there is proof that they took part in in things that are nefarious criminal and disgusting Let justice have its day with that person.

I don't have sacred cows like that unlike you people who for

Years you create you created your own cinematic universe out of this with its own language Decoder rings and whatnot and you made it the end all be all of your personalities and Then you got into positions of power and like the dog who catches his tail you now don't know what to do with yourselves so Release them the problem is is if they do release and I said this to you this morning if you know Pambani got on television right now

and said, here are the Epstein files.

And we read them, we would know immediately if these files had been doctored, played with, or changed.

Because if we don't see Donald Trump's name in them at all, I mean- Which we know

is in there over 1600 times, I believe.

And again, he is not facing allegations

of

having

assaulted girls.

And nor do I think anyone who came into interaction with Jeffrey Epstein or spent time with him is also guilty.

We find guilt in the evidence that's in the files.

If someone went to a party and he was there and they shook hands and they had a hug or they took a picture.

Okay.

That's weird because he's weird, but that I don't think anyone who had any interaction with Jeffrey Epstein is immediately a criminal.

I wanted to see the files and I want to see the evidence that shows who partook in these activities with this man.

And then we go from there.

If the files just say that Donald Trump just was hanging out with him a lot and they just watched a lot of TV, then okay, fine.

That's what happened.

But it's this inconsistent message, Jane, of

Release the files.

Don't release the files.

Donald Trump is in there.

It's only Democrats.

It's just release them.

Just release them.

Yes.

And let the chips fall where they may.

And we also live in the age of the golden age of no consequences.

So even if something's in there, what's going to happen in a Trump controlled DOJ?

Well, that's a very good point.

And the other thing that just makes me laugh.

And this is not a laughing matter.

But Donald Trump talking about again about how there's all these Democrats in the Epstein

files.

And

that's why we need to reopen the investigation.

And he actually said out loud that Democrats were with him all the time.

I was never with him.

His friends are all Democrats.

Democrats were with Epstein all the time.

I was never with him.

Somebody on Twitter put up yesterday, there are more pictures of Donald Trump with Jeffrey Epstein than there are of Donald Trump with his children when they were children.

And that's true.

Yeah.

I would suggest people watch last night's episode of The Daily Show because

to the Monday, which means John Stewart's on.

And he does a really good job.

The whole team does a really good job of looking at the entire thing from the pizza gate, which I didn't actually know the, the, what, why it was called pizza gate in the beginning.

They talk about that.

And then they bring it into what's going on today and make some, once again, wonderful comparisons and contract and contractions.

to trash.

They compare and contrast.

Yes, contrast.

The fact that, you know, just 10 years ago, it was about the most, you know, decoding.

It was all secret.

They were secret

messages in everything.

And how everything met something.

Now we have it clear, plain clear as the day.

And now it's like, we have these luminaries of the GOP social media sphere saying, well, who can tell?

Yeah, who can tell what's going on?

I mean, this is this could mean anything.

We don't know what's going on.

So yeah, last night's Daily Show was a really good episode, really gave a good history.

I would suggest watching it.

But I'm sorry to be a negative Nancy, but what's going to come of it?

What what will honestly come?

I mean, he's he's pardoning.

He's pardoning people who are involved in things like this with Jeffrey Epstein.

He's pardoning criminals.

He's doing all nothing.

There are no consequences.

There sure don't seem to be.

None.

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Started off the top of the show they were talking about.

Today is supposed to be the day that the house votes on this discharge petition.

to release the Epstein files, which Donald Trump ran on, uncover the deep state, drain the swamp.

That was all part of the thing.

Except, of course, when it was like, oh, there might be some important Republicans or important donors on that list that we like.

Oh, we better not do that.

Well, this morning, after addresses by Representative Ro Khanna, Tom Massey, the Republican from Kentucky, Marjorie Taylor Greene,

Epstein survivor Haley Robson took to the microphone and said quote I want to relay this message to you.

I am traumatized.

I am not stupid.

I am traumatized Not stupid.

Yeah, you have put us through so much stress the lockdown procedures that were supposed to have happened 50 days ago that representative Adelida Graval Gravalva who waited to get sworn in then

You, referring to Trump, get upset when your own party against you because is wrong, it is not right.

For your own self-serving purposes, this is America, land of the free.

We have a one capital bill of represent and I feel free today.

I don't know if the women standing behind me feel free today.

So I am begging every member of Congress and representative to step up and end the chaos.

That was one of the survivors.

of Jeffrey Epstein speaking on the steps of the Capitol this morning before the House convenes.

We'll see if they pass that discharge petition.

Now, of course, Donald Trump said he has directed his DOJ to investigate Democrats who could be on the list, which could delay the release of these files yet again.

And I think that it's important to hear from the survivors, from the victims, from those survivors, I should say, and the families, because we've been talking about this for a while now, when it's all said and done and the last, you know, whatever is the last page is turned, it's about justice for these individuals, for these family members, for these people who have watched, who have watched such a reversal in the process of justice, which, you know,

Jeffrey Epstein, he's gone.

There's going to be no justice for what he has done.

Ghislaine Maxwell, she went from convicted in prison for the, for 20 years.

I'm sorry, but she deserved more, but from, from the people, her punishment, her prison sentence is so minor in my opinion to what she's been accused of doing 20 years.

That's nothing.

She'd still have a life after release.

Now she is in a basically a white collar.

prison camp that is just fun and frivolity and she has yet.

Well, and she has access to things that no other person charged with the same crimes would get access to.

This is absolutely very special treatment she is receiving.

And this goes to the notion of there is this seems to be no consequences for actions.

And why?

Hey, people on the on the on the Epstein list.

Why worry about anything either?

You're not going to be convicted and even if you are just you'll get pardoned because you know We know he's going to pardon her or at least commute her sentence Anyone who faces any sort of consequence that is a Republican or a Trump or will be given special treatment Special deals immunity or they'll say hey you gotta go in for two years and we'll get you out in six months and you'll be fine It's all gonna be taken care because there are no consequences for the action coming from the party of personal

responsibility.

Well, again, as long as you're on the side of Trump,

yes,

then everything is everything is okay.

I mean, we've seen now, and we're not going to have time to get all of the all of the best pardons he's been issuing just in the last couple of weeks.

Yes.

Lots of financial crimes.

Yes.

Lots of people convicted of financial crimes who have been pardoned by our president.

Jim on the on the text line.

In Brookfield, thank you so much for Jim for getting ahold of us.

He said, can we really trust Pam Bondi and the Trump DOJ to release accurate and complete Epstein files?

Anything they release will be heavily redacted or even falsified.

I mean, that's just really what it comes down to is I do not trust anything coming out of this administration period.

And I would say I wouldn't even trust anything coming out of any administration.

They're all going to work in self-interest.

I just think this administration more so than all of the others.

And it's

It absolutely is not about, I guess the question I wanted to ask, and we're not going to get callers on this because no one will call because no one ever does on this topic.

Do you support the Epstein files being locked away?

Forever.

Forever now.

I mean, all of a sudden we want, you wanted them, you wanted them, you wanted them so much.

And now.

It seems like it's going to be a hard road to get them released fully and and and and completely completely But if you are on board with it being locked away, why tell us I'd love to know I would really love to know why and then also side question Do you have any children?

Daughters and specific granddaughters, maybe I mean, it's just it's that thing of like, you know They have to work their opinions around whatever Donald Trump says.

So yes

Two, three years ago, it was released the Epstein files at all costs.

Now it's, well, I don't know.

Maybe not.

Maybe Jeffrey Epstein wasn't a pedophile.

Maybe he just liked young-ish girls.

Yeah, just talked to Megan

Kelly.

Just so disgusting.

That's a

whole other conversation

we don't

have time for right now.

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Good morning.

How are you?

Use that voice

note feature on the on the app kids because you too like Jane McNair could sing to us as part of the the content of this quality program Thank you again Jane for that lovely song this

I couldn't resist when I was driving in this morning Pat and Parker were talking I don't know how you ended up talking about remakes of songs We never know how they get on top.

We were talking about remakes of songs and He Pat Parker is a fan of Irish music, which I did not realize

No, did not at all.

I would not have pegged him for that.

I had him much more, you know, insert other punchline.

But when my husband and I were in Ireland for a wedding a number of years ago, we were listening to the local radio and they had done a remake of Elvis's I can't help falling in love with you.

And it was the cheeriest, most chipper version I have ever heard in my life.

I can't help.

Falling in love with you.

Hey, it was just hilarious.

You're

traipsing into offensively Irish right now.

You might as well say, hoi-de-toi-de-toi-de.

But anyway, you can leave a voice note like I did this morning.

What was that Lord of the Dance guy's name?

Michael Flatley.

Michael Flatley.

Michael Flatley.

I'll never

forget that guy.

Someone did an interview with him when they said, who do you think is the best dancer in the world?

And he just sat there with his arm on the couch and he just said, without hesitation,

Me.

I'm

like, oh, no.

There you go.

Come

on,

man.

At least say,

like, Fred Astaire and

then

me or something.

It's good to have confidence.

I guess.

Yeah.

What's that like?

Yeah, it certainly is.

Lots of things to cover with you, Mr. Crite Low.

But I wanted to start with this one.

Out of the Wisconsin Examiner from Baylor Spears with the byline, following the lead of the federal GOP, Wisconsin lawmakers take up credit card political contributions bill.

Now, you may remember, or maybe not, there was an app called WinRed.

WinRed, and this is back in 2021, this happened.

2021 WinRed, which was the Republican site to make donations to Republican candidates.

And they did this thing where they had this teeny, tiny box at the very bottom that

Signed you up automatically for regular withdrawals monthly withdrawals.

Yeah, which a lot of people didn't realize

I'm going to include in the show notes a store an article from Al Jazeera talking about this They focus on a gentleman a Republican a gentleman in Texas who signed up through Winred his name is James Frank Clark And he signed up through Winred to make a donation and I think he made a donation of $20 and according to this

the Winred would come in and take the $20 here and there, but they would run the transaction somewhere between 50 to 200 times.

And I remember when that happened.

And I think there should absolutely be legislation that says that, you know, no app, regardless of politics, or just you cannot do that.

You know, there has to be guardrails on the app that says, I'm signing up for this, do it like this.

And then you have the ability to opt in for,

continuous payments, but this, I mean, 50 to 200 times has a lot of money and didn't say anything in an article about that guy being

real rich.

Well, and again, nothing in this measure addresses anything on the Republican side, at least as far as I can tell.

This article again from the Wisconsin examiner, Senator Corey Tomczyk, a Republican from

Mohseny says he wants to crack down on political contributions made with credit cards online and provide additional information on amendment proposals to voters.

What they're worried about is the site called Act Blue.

They have targeted Act Blue, a Massachusetts-based platform that processes donations to democratic campaigns.

Now they say that

if you use Act Blue, that you don't have to put the CCV?

That thing too.

Yes, those three numbers on the back of your credit card and that you don't have to provide your zip code.

Is that even possible to make donations without providing that information?

No, no, I've used it and I'm pretty sure those things are needed.

He's used Act Blue!

All you need to know is this.

I say it all the time.

Every assertion is a confession.

And there's a reason why you're only hearing act blue and not the far worse violations that took place from when read.

But of course, rather than, you know, address things in house, it's always turned into a political prism of how can we use this to punish our political opponents when we really should be looking overall at the entire system.

and having proper safeguards in place.

But instead of putting the safeguards in place that guard against, you know, taking 20 bucks at a time hundreds of times out of your bank account, you know, instead it's let's find a way to just target the one site that Democrats use more than Republicans.

We see this all the time.

Nobody's against what the things that Greg was talking about is just good customer service and consumer protection.

But for some reason, we're only hearing

them talk about act blue in this thing.

It's a mystery, he said, with all the sarcasm he could muster.

Senator Chris Larsen, Democrat from Milwaukee, expressed concerns over how the bill creates barriers for people who want to donate.

Quote, why are you trying to ban citizens from being able to donate by credit card?

Tomczyk says if they're not voting in the U.S.,

They're allowed to donate by credit card if they're providing all the information the bill outlines.

If they don't have a voting address, it's kind of odd.

Is that a thing?

As Larson said, this sounds like this is just putting up additional hurdles for people who want to donate by credit card.

And it just seems like especially for smaller dollar donations, people who aren't writing a lot of checks.

Most of the people I know donate with credit cards, not through writing checks.

But this also goes, you know, you say every assertion is confession, but also this can be chalked up to creating a solution when there really was no problem.

Okay, you want to make it safer?

That's great.

I mean, I don't know of a single website that I've gone to that I don't already have a profile on where I don't have to put my credit card number.

My expiration date, my name as it appears on the card, the CVV code as well as my mailing address.

Those things seem to be already a thing that exists, so this bill doesn't really seem to solve a problem.

And also, if Senator Larson is saying these are hurdles, they're very small hurdles because if you are already...

donating by credit card, you have a CVV number on the back of your card.

So like, like what does it seems like?

And Pat and Jane, tell me if I'm wrong, you're much smarter than I am.

This seems like it's just a way of getting a headline in the paper that actually solving a problem because there was never really a problem begin with unless you want to talk about guardrails, taking your money anytime it wanted to.

Again, the problem was on the wind red side.

And the exchange that's captured in the article here, the best part of it is that Republicans talk about one particular tactic called smurfing.

And Chris Larson says to them, you guys sound like Gargamel as much as you're talking about smurfing, talking about the Smurfs cartoon franchise.

He says, come up with an example.

Give me some proof, really, if you want the governor to be able to sign it.

And Tomczyk says, in testimony, I don't think I have to show proof.

I have to provide information and get enough support to pass it through.

So

they

how much more can you admit you're just playing politics

again?

He is essentially saying I don't have to give you any evidence that this has ever in the history of the world happened But it might happen and we feel because you know Mike Johnson the speaker of the house.

It's all his feels He got he knows into intuitively, you know, they just feel they just know that this is happening even though there's no proof

it

doesn't matter if it's campaign contributions or you know sexual crimes against children or whatever it's what what you guys have said previously is that as long as you're on the team you know my team and supporting my guy we're not going to crack down on those crimes we're gonna just crack down on the either real or imaginary crimes that we see that gain us a political advantage over our adversaries and that's just slimy

If you're just joining us on mat and air on air on the wonderful civic media radio network, we are talking to host of mornings with pack, right?

Low.

My goodness.

Mornings with pack, right?

Low.

Mr. Pat Crullo himself.

Sorry.

My brain, one of the other places.

And he is, we are talking about the very

nonsensical bill coming out of Madison right now that is dealing with the non problem of credit card donation donations to political campaigns via credit cards, which is being targeted at act blue, not any, like, I don't even, I'm not even going to call it when red.

I'm, I just did, but like this is about, it sounds like a consumer protection bill that's just here to safeguard our credit card purchases, which is great.

But you just brought up something, Pat, that is very important because this week specifically,

This past week and in the past two days, we have seen the example of as long as you are on the side of one, so you're on the mega side, you're good to go.

But we just saw one of their biggest vocal supporters get thrown in the trash pile, which is Marjorie Taylor Greene, who has thoughts on on Palestine, thoughts on the economy, thoughts on the Epstein files.

And now she's being called Marjorie Taylor.

Trader Green or Marjorie Taylor Brown because Donald Trump says you know because leaves turn brown because Explaining a joke is when it's funniest, but

but this is what we've talked about in the past is that You're all good and you're all part of the team.

You're all mega enough until you're not

And then you're a traitor.

Then you were a traitor.

As soon as you go against anything that Trump or the party says, you are a traitor.

Going back to Act Blue, Cassandra on the live stream says, I've donated through Act Blue.

You have to give all of that information, plus they specifically ask how many times you want to donate, how often, et cetera.

These guys are full of...

Something that's it's absolutely something because Andrew's

she's absolutely right that that safeguard is already in place and again is just simply playing politics with something when there are other things they could be doing

I mean, other things they could be doing like funding education, funding

legalizing marijuana.

Expanding Medicare

for new

moms.

Oh, poor Robin.

Yeah, speaking of, we'll slip over to that just for a little bit.

Robin Voss getting all kinds of national attention.

National attention.

National attention for our assembly speaker in ProPublica today.

He vowed to protect the unborn.

Now he's blocking a bill to expand Medicaid for Wisconsin's new moms.

And there he is, Wisconsin's own assembly speaker, Robin Voss.

Is

he here?

Is the king arrived?

Has the king arrived?

Do we have that sound?

Do we have a sound?

There it

is.

Popcorn king.

Oh, hell, Robin.

We're going to talk to Dr. Kristen Lyrely.

She's going to join us next week.

So we will go into a little bit more depth about that, because we've talked about this before.

Over and over and over again about this.

There is bipartisan support for this measure to increase Medicaid coverage for new moms

just for

a year.

I

would call it bipartisan.

I would call it unanimous minus one.

Yeah,

except

for Robin Boss.

Unanimous

support minus one guy.

The one guy who can hold it up.

Yeah.

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We would love to hear from you on what you would like to see happen with our health care.

ACA subsidies going away.

Gonna get very expensive next year.

I don't know that anybody has one answer, that there's one answer for this, but what would you like to see happen to healthcare?

That is coming up after the 10 o'clock news.

Right now we are joined by Pat Critello, host of Mornings with Pat Critello, across the network six to nine on weekdays.

Pat, I know you talked about this a little bit yesterday.

We did as well.

Beef prices are up and the CEO of Omaha Steaks said recently that he expects, and people are saying it's already this high, $10 a pound ground beef.

But Scott Bassent, the head of the Treasury Department, had an explanation for why beef is so expensive.

I had never considered this explanation.

Calvin, can we play that clip, please?

But what is your check on what you just heard he's expecting $10 meat.

Well Maria the Maria that the the beef market is a very specialized market it goes and long cycles and that that this this is the perfect storm again something we inherited and there there's also because of the mass immigration.

A disease that had been.

We've been rid of, in North America, made its way up through South America.

As these migrants, they have brought some of their cattle with them.

So part of the problem is we've had to shut the border to Mexican beef because of this disease called the screwworm.

So we're not gonna let that get into our supply chain.

Okay, Cal, that's enough.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

There's a screwworm someplace.

There's a screw loose worm.

He

knows where it is.

So we did talk about this yesterday.

There are all kinds of memes going around on social media of cows standing on the shoulders of other cows to get over the wall along the southern border and all kinds of stuff.

But Tony Zimmerman, our colleague here at Civic Media does an incredible job of taking our content and then editing together with the appropriate clips.

And he did that with that little segment that we talked about yesterday and put it on Instagram.

And this is exploded for us.

It's local viral, if you will.

But

we're at 110,000 views, which for us is a lot.

That's a lot, yeah.

No, we're

at

140,000 views.

Well, look at that.

But we wanted to share some of the comments because some of the comments are priceless.

Shane asks to hear comments.

I'm like, what is wrong with you?

I won't give the names.

I'll go, I'll just kind of go quick here, but just to speak to what you were saying, we're already at $10 a pound grown beef.

I saw someone who said on our TikTok comments that they live in Massachusetts and it's at $13 a pound.

What is it?

Are they bringing cows yet?

They weren't eating people's dogs and cats.

Yeah,

they had cows,

but they're eating pets.

Okay.

Obviously the cows only bring the drugs in at night.

That's why no one sees them doing it.

I hope this helps.

I love that.

I hope that helped.

That explains so much why we have not seen Fox News with videos of these cows coming in across the border illegally.

Well, I think that, you know, our own producer in the mornings, Parker Olson,

pretty much nailed it, uh, citing a Monty Python skit where they're, you know, catapulting the, the cows over and I believe Tony made a video of that for us as well.

So Tony again, very well.

He's a, he's a

rock star.

Someone, uh, someone made that comment in the, and yeah, exactly.

That's all I can think of too.

This one is great.

And I'm going to give credit for this is a.

Kent underscore guzz breaking news.

I used to start deporting illegal cows move back to Mexico.

I

mean

These are these are some of the best and there's one lady who said well Biden did this and then she's just getting roasted.

It's great It's it's

Perfectly wonderful to witness this.

It's utterly ridiculous.

We

all know that a

lot

of

these cows

are coming

from from Jersey.

Yeah, I mean, we could do this all day.

Yeah, absolutely.

But again, I just thought it was it was it.

I love people's creativity.

when they come up with some stuff like this.

Well, when you hear stuff like this and, you know, there's folks that say, well, this is all just meant to distract, to divert attention.

They say stupid things like this on purpose.

I firmly believe that there are times when, you know, they're throwing everything out there to kind of divert attention.

Yes.

But there really are times when somebody just says something stupid and, you know, they, they.

They deservedly get roasted for this, but the person who really needs to be roasted in this case is Maria Bartiromo or any of these other, you know, there are people on Fox News and others who used to be legitimate.

you know, reporters and things.

And I look at them now, their failure to follow up, their failure to call people out, hold people to account.

And I just think how high was that paycheck to sell your soul, to sell out your journalistic values to get what you're getting here now?

I mean, Maria Bartiromo might be tops on that list, but there are plenty others.

And so when you don't follow up something that stupid, you deserve to be roasted to.

Well, and don't forget, and even just from this morning,

Fox News did not cover any of the Epstein survivors testifying before Capitol Hill this morning.

They covered something else, of course.

So if you don't see it, if you watch Fox, then it didn't happen.

Well, why would they cover the cows?

Because I'm the one that made the comment about cows using the tunnels.

Somebody else comes back and goes, oh, that's what they mean by ground to beef.

Love

it, love these listeners,

love them.

And Pat's clip is at 283,000 views right now, whatever.

Nice, nice.

I'm

sorry, that's Parker's clip.

You're never gonna go wrong with Monty Python.

That's all Parker's done.

Pat Kratlow does mornings with Pat Kratlow, six to nine across the network weekdays.

Thank you so very much.

We will see you next week.

See you next

week.

News is coming up next and then when we return, healthcare.

It's a mess.

What would you like to see happen that's all on the way?

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Welcome.

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Take a breath.

talking about other things.

We're excited.

Paul Trebbian from the Holiday Folk Fair

is going to be joining us.

He

stopped by last year in studio Holiday Folk Fair going to be going on in Milwaukee this weekend.

It has been around for decades.

Great, great event.

get you in the holiday spirit, give you a chance to have wonderful food from all around the world.

Oh my God, the food's amazing.

It is amazing.

And see some incredible dancing and all kinds of great cultural stuff.

So Paul Trebbian will be here after the 1030 News.

We'll wrap up the show as we always do with this.

Shouldn't be a thing.

Today the Space Metal Edition.

Greg's very excited about this one.

That's coming up at the end of the show.

Wanted to start off with health care.

Yeah.

Big, big, big discussion for all of us.

This is important to all of us.

This is what the President of the United States, and of course, I just got a warning on that now.

It won't come up, said about what we should do to fix the health care crisis in this country.

It's about $2,000 checks, Greg.

Great.

That's all we need.

And for those people out

there... Get

it done, says Donald Trump.

Get it done.

The only healthcare I will support or approve all caps is sending the money directly back to the people with nothing going to the big fat rich insurance companies who have made trillions and ripped off America long enough.

The people will be allowed to negotiate and buy their own much better insurance power to the people.

Congress don't waste your time on anything else.

This is the only way to have great health care in America.

Get it done now.

There you go.

Those big, fat, rich insurance companies, which they've been criticizing so steadily for the last 15 years, they have.

Well,

the thing that I, I'm very, okay, so I'm kind of confused.

He wants to give everyone $2,000 to find their own health insurance coverage.

Which would mean paying health insurance.

Companies exactly.

Yeah, so he wants to create a subsidy a governance subsidy of $2,000 to go to every American to purchase healthcare He is just rebooted rebranded Legacy like all those movies coming out now.

He's just doing the ACA.

That's all this is only it's a direct payment so we can find

our money or our insurance coverage instead of getting a tax break or a tax incentive, anything like that.

We're just going to get a check from the government, which by the way, cutting a check to the entire people is pricey.

That's pricey as well.

It doesn't make any sense because also $2,000 will most likely not cover an individual's health care.

Just just the coverage.

And if this money is just for the coverage, that probably won't cover you unless you are willing to get the most basic version of it available.

And also, where are you going to do that?

Because in order to get individual health care, that's usually what you'd go through the marketplace for from the ACA.

And one thing that helps the marketplace is when you have a bigger group of people negotiating prices, then the price might come down.

Individuals have much less

bargaining power with insurance companies than groups do.

So great, we all get to individually negotiate with insurance companies.

That's going to fix it.

855-752-4842-855-75 civic.

What would you like to see happen to healthcare in America?

Should we make fixes to the ACA?

Should we go back and

Just get rid of the ACA and go back to the way it was before.

So great.

I can't imagine because that means your pre-existing conditions keep you from getting

covered.

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Cassandra from New London is joining us on the line.

Good morning, Cassandra.

What do you think?

Good morning.

I'm a big Medicare for all person or universal healthcare 100%.

I am at the point where I see there's really no incentive for me to like pay thousands of dollars to an insurance company for healthcare that I might end up needing.

Like, you know, they just taken all this money.

And honestly, just from my personal perspective as a nurse that works in critical care, I see like,

People going through medical treatments that I mean I'll just put it this way we treat our animals better than we treat our humans and I feel like if some doctors weren't incentivized whether they are Not thinking this way or not, but like if doctors aren't incentivized by charging more for all these tests because the insurance companies want more money

I just feel like we could probably give more compassionate care, especially to people who are kind of in like the twilight of their lives.

We don't need to continually torture them with medical treatment just because we have the resources for it.

That's a really good point, Cassandra.

I am thinking back to when my mother was very ill, and this is going back a good 16, 17 years, but she had had some surgery.

She was well into her 80s.

She was 85.

During the course of this surgery, her liver shut down.

And when we went back into the hospital, the surgeon said, well, you know, we can do other surgeries, but when she's going to be on dialysis for the rest of her life.

And it was like, she's 85.

She'll be hooked up up to a machine.

She's going to have to have dialysis.

What is the quality of life that we're talking about?

So they're offering treatment sometime, as you said, Cassandra, yes, we have the ability to do that, but what's that really going to do for this person, right?

Exactly.

And unfortunately, I, you know, I see that all the time and it takes a toll on the healthcare work.

I

bet.

The last thing that I want to do is put this patient through this.

And a lot of times, you know, you're, I'm advocating that, you know, we need to stop doing this and

think about their comfort and just their quality.

You know, you make such a good point, Cassandra, about it's got to be really heavy, what you do.

It is, but it's also very, it is rewarding as well.

And so that kind of does make up for it.

But at the end of the day, I have to advocate for these patients because the medical system is set up in a way that

I am their only advocate in some cases.

Yep.

Well, they're lucky they have you.

Thank you very much for calling.

Thanks for doing what you

do, Cassandra.

We love hearing from you on the live stream as well.

Give that nurses perspective is wonderful.

Absolutely.

You know, this, I mean, this whole conversation we're having now, it opens it up to other topics too of like, you know, quality of life, having the right inability to.

End your suffering on your own, which is something that I think only exists in two states in the union Washington and Oregon I know Oregon is for sure, but you know as far as the health care thing goes You know if the president wants to give us $2,000 that might not even that doesn't even like Well, if it's just for if it's just for getting a health care program getting a health insurance plan That's really not gonna help you unless you are a single person and willing to pay

like $20,000 deductible and like you get the least amount version, the tiniest version, but you still have something, you have catastrophic essentially.

But a lot of people would probably use that $2,000 to pay down medical debt.

electricity bills, well, I mean, utility bills to pay food bills.

Yeah.

If you had to use it to buy insurance plan, okay, fine.

But then where does the rest of that money come from?

I mean, it's just, it's not a fix and it's insulting that he thinks it's a fix.

And also I'm sorry, but stop trying to treat us like you're the, the Superman-esque figure standing in front of us between us and the big bad insurance company.

We know who pays for you.

We know that they're going to get the money eventually.

They don't care if you

you mock them or speak down to them, they're still going to make billions of dollars a quarter and still get our money.

So don't act like this is a fix.

It's not.

Well,

and it just, again, it makes me laugh that all of a sudden we're all against the big, bad, rich, bloated insurance companies.

Yeah.

The general population has been feeling that way for a long time.

I don't remember hearing any criticism from either side about the.

incredible amounts of money, the insurance companies rake in.

But all of a sudden, oh no, now we hate

them.

But you know what though, Jane?

It goes back to the original kernel of truth that we've been talking about for weeks and months now.

This is a headline we are now talking about because we are not talking about the Epstein files or the big, big bill for billionaires, which is going to take

A lot of our Medicare medicaid snap benefits and put them into the pockets of millionaires and billionaires That is those are the two highest crimes.

I think of this presidency It's not the you know, this is the if he gets this $2,000 I mean if I can only use it for health care I get health care.

I have health care through my wife's job

And so therefore, do I not get the money?

If you're gonna give me the money, I'm gonna pay down a bill.

I'm going to use it for something else.

Well, and

are they gonna send out $2,000 checks for every person in the household?

I don't know.

Because I haven't seen that addressed yet.

No.

Or is it just the adults in the household?

Well, this is just like, I can't, oh man, I'm trying to think.

He says so many things which seems off the cuff, like the 50 year mortgage thing.

It just seems like it happens in the moment.

Like I said to you and to Todd and Pat recently.

When you want to put forth a policy or a program, it goes through a lot.

It goes through its incubation.

It goes through the development.

It goes through scoring.

It goes through testing the language in front of people to see if like the words pop and make them excited.

There's a long process before you say, here's our

program.

Here is our bill.

Here is the thing.

But he just says, I want to send everyone $2,000.

And that's going to fix it all.

And I have to feel something I don't usually feel for people, which is empathy for people who work for Donald Trump.

in the background, tearing their hair out going, we can't do this.

Jim from Appleton texting and listening on WISS and Oshkosh.

Sure, there's an answer just like the rest of the developed world, single payer universal healthcare.

Yep.

And by the way, this is another thing too that, you know, if you live in another country that has that, you can still get private insurance if you want.

Absolutely.

And

most people do.

I have a

friend in Uruguay who has only been there for about a year.

And she, I talked to her just a couple of weeks ago.

She said, it's amazing.

You go in, you see the doctor and you leave and they treat you and then you leave and you don't lose your home or your car or all of your savings.

It can be done.

It can be done.

We just

don't have the will to do it.

And also there, you know, one of the things that makes people, I mean,

You can paint a picture that universal healthcare or that the HMS or Canada, I was like, Canada, wherever it's, there are all these problems.

Of course, there's no big program.

Nothing is perfect.

No governmental program of that heft and size is going to be perfect, but you definitely can be in America and wait in emergency rooms and wait in line and not get covered.

And you get to call insurance companies and say, sorry, that, that thing that's actually going to make your life better.

We don't cover that.

So sorry to

do that.

So of course, why

not just

Give it a try Jim from Appleton again my employer paid health care covers 12 costs 1221 bucks a month That's the combined for me and my employer $2,000 wouldn't even give me two months of coverage.

Yeah, not enough Stay close.

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Welcome back to Matt Nair on air Jane Matt Nair Greg Bach Calvitini on the board coming to you from our studio at Radio Park in Racine join us at 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook YouTube and what used to be Twitter We are talking about health care the AC a Donald Trump's big fix for the health care in this country is $2,000 checks to everybody

So you can just buy insurance from the health insurance industry, which seems to be kind of what we're doing.

You can put a down payment on your health coverage.

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Richard from Waukesha has been very patient.

Good morning, Richard.

Thanks for joining us.

Morning.

I got something that's interesting.

A 20% copay on federal employees, 15% copay.

on state employees for a starter.

That's the fix, you think?

Well, that's a start to see where

we're at.

When I was a city employee, I had co-pays.

If you, if you are, as far as I know, if you are a federal state or city, like if you are a governmental employee, I think you're still responsible for Colby.

I know I was when I had

health

insurance.

I had phenomenal health insurance that was literally pennies on the dollar compared to other people.

But I mean, I don't know if, if we are raising the prices on their copays, but I mean, we asked for, we asked for ideas and appreciate your call on Richard for that.

I mean, I think that

I would say, well, this isn't a solution, this is just me being petty.

That's okay, you can be petty.

Allow congressmen, the president and senators to search for healthcare on their own for a year and see how they like it.

But they've all

got the money.

They've all got the money.

It won't bother them.

They're in a whole different economic stratosphere.

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Cindy from Appleton joining us on the line.

Good morning, Cindy.

What do you think about this?

Oh another debacle, but anyway $2,000 is that going to be tax-free number one and number two?

What do they do about the deductibles?

I mean $2,000 for most people isn't even enough to cover their deductible

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right again.

They're just they just throw stuff out there without thinking it through and I want to go back to

It was Biden's fault for heating up inflation by sending out the stimulus checks during COVID.

So inflation going up was all Biden's fault because of those checks that he sent out while we were all shut down trying to keep people alive.

That was horrible, but this is the answer.

Now we're gonna send $2,000 checks out to everybody for health insurance.

Make that make sense.

two questions really quick also.

Well, one, how are you going to, the, the, the, not a question so much as the statement as I made before printing and sending out these checks are going to cost money.

It's going to cost money to do this.

Also, where's the money going to come from?

2000.

And I think, and I think it's, it's $2,000.

If you make below a hundred thousand dollars a year, but also once again, where are you going to get this money?

The tariff shelf?

It's tariff shelf.

Jenny on the live stream says we shouldn't give give the idea of these random $2,000 checks until Congress is legitimately involved.

Yeah, they have the power of the purse.

Congress has the power of the purse.

He's fooling people the way that he said that he insisted his signature was on the stimulus check.

It's all a game.

And it says we should not give the idea of these random checks any intention until Congress is involved.

And yeah, and I don't know at this point, I do not know at this point if

the Republicans would be on board with something like this.

And also it could, who knows, it could eat into their, it could eat into their, the money that they're gonna get back in taxes.

It's gotta come from somewhere.

Yes, it does.

Anne from Chippewa Falls, listening on WAUK, texting in, tax the rich 2%.

Healthcare is a human right.

Thank you.

I mean, that's the other thing too, is we have the ability to, we can, small incremental increases, like you raise the increase,

You raise the ceiling on social security.

You can fund that so much easier.

A

tiny bit.

A tiny bit.

Infantissimal, yes.

A really small amount would make enormous difference.

You charge, you living rich in this country, make it a tiny increase.

Percentages, one to 2%.

That's going to give us so much revenue.

But then what they do is they treat it like you are absolutely

Like, you hate America for even suggesting a way for someone who is rich beyond belief, rich for a thousand people that they dare chipping a little bit more.

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Jack from Merrimack on the line.

Good morning, Jack.

What'd you want to say about this?

Good morning.

Well, I have a couple of things to say.

I haven't actually been thinking about this for a while.

Insurance companies

have somewhere between a 15 and 20% markup.

Let's say 15%.

The markup on Medicare, the administrative costs are about 2%.

Now, if we were to take the money that people put into, or that employers put into employee insurance, keep all those people on employee insurance, but turn it over to Medicare, you wouldn't even have to worry about being in network, by the way, with Medicare, because you can go to any doctor.

Yeah.

negotiate with big big hospital like like ascension and in all these big hospital of conglomerates you could probably bring the price down somewhat even more if you could we pay twice as much per person as any place else in the world if you could even knock that down to one and a half times as much you could probably ensure everybody in the country and it wouldn't cost

anything more.

Got to go, Jack.

We're up against the clock.

Thank you for that.

You should be an advisor to the Trump administration.

I'm sure they'd welcome that.

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We are welcoming

And so happy to have him back in studio with us.

Paul Trevion from the Holiday Folk Fair is here for our audio sorbet segment where we get away from the news and talk about lighter, more pleasant things.

Good to see you again, Paul.

Thanks so much for coming down here.

Holiday Folk Fair kicks off on Friday.

This is happening at the Expo Center at State Fair Park in West Dallas.

What's new?

Well, I want to talk, we were talking off the air a little bit about the Holiday Folk Fair.

and your daughter.

And explain your background a little bit and the tribe to which you belong.

Well,

I'm part of the Klingit tribe, southeast Alaska.

Juneau is the area.

That's our homeland.

And my daughter decided to move back or move up there to be next to my mom, her grandma.

Oh, wow.

To help take care of her.

My grandmother is 91 or 92 now.

And so my daughter is an artist, a formal artist.

And so she decided to pick up additional training at the University of Alaska Southeast, Juneau.

and she's becoming what I would call a cultural guardian.

I mean, she's learning all of the different media, weaving, you know, the

hats,

the beadwork, the wood carving, the line art and the language.

And she's really good, better than I am

with the language.

Did you grow up speaking that in the house?

A little

bit.

When I was growing up, there was a big push to learn English very, very much.

And now there's the surgeons to preserve culture.

And the best way to preserve culture is to preserve language.

That's my intro.

Long sea-faring bird.

shark clan eagle house my mother's dot could tease and My daughter corrects me on that now.

So

she says you need to

speak a little bit a little bit with the sneaky sounds and also the wording is a little different dad.

Oh, that is well actually dad you But I mean that's something that's you know and and I I hesitate to believe anything I hear on social media But something I have heard and please feel free to be the confirm or deny

that the preservation of, of native language, native art, the, the growth of a, as a population has grown and gotten better over the past few years than where it was many years ago.

I mean, is that, I know that it's a start, but is that where you're at and, and, and how, how do you see that?

How did you see that happening over the years?

Like what was, what were the catalyst to making sure that you would ensure your culture and its growth?

Well, I would actually say in my entire lifetime, it's totally changed.

When I was young, it was shunned upon to wear regalia.

I'll be a little dark here at first.

You could wear your colors and the regalia I'm wearing and there was laws that put you in jail.

And so as I grew up, we have a lot of negativity with the government.

But the government actually over the years, when I've been growing up and now I'm up there in years,

has changed all that.

And throughout all of those prejudicial laws and racist laws, and we created a celebration in 1980, that was back in 1980, where every even year, the first weekend in June, the tribes come to, or the tribes, yes, Haida, Clinkett, Simpson, and then Pacific Islanders come to Alaska to celebrate the culture, song, dance, storytelling.