Ozempic Isn’t The Silver Bullet (Hour 2)

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Ozempic Isn’t The Silver Bullet (Hour 2)

Matenaer on Air · Wed Nov 12, 2025

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Greg Bach (Co-Host)

Exactly.

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Yes.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely is here.

Good morning, my friend.

How are you?

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

I'm well.

And I've got my lumbar support pillow behind me.

I saw that.

And I'd just like to share that the number is 40.

40.

Whether you know it or not, the magic number in medicine is 40.

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I am sorry.

Among many things that we wanted to talk to you about this morning is Osempic.

Osempic for all.

Osempic for everyone.

This is the answer to all of our problems, Dr. Liarley.

I know a lot of people over the last three years especially have been using Osempic or some type of it for weight loss.

What amazed me when this announcement came I believe it was last week Robert Kennedy, Jr.

Was asked about this And he said he still believes there are serious risks to taking things like ozempic

Martha McCollum on Fox News said, so you believe that Osempic and Wegovi in these drugs, that they're safe for long-term use for Americans?

Bob Jr.

says, I didn't say that.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

Oh, okay.

I mean, what does he say?

He says whatever he's told to say because he is not actually representing evidence and data.

He is representing a political perspective,

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

right?

And I would imagine the pharmaceutical companies as well.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

Yeah, this is where it's tricky, because he came in not in support of Osempic and those medications, and now suddenly he's changed sides.

So I'm sure there's been some sort of an influence there.

And I want to be really clear.

Osempic is a good drug.

It has been life-changing for many people, not just when it comes to weight, but it seems to have something to do with impulse control.

So there are other addictive behaviors that it

It appears that Osempic seems to treat.

Now, it's only been around and used for these purposes for a few years.

So down the road, medicine is always changing.

We in our minds want things to be good or bad, black or white.

things could change in the future, there will likely be things that we find out about Osempic, good or bad in the future.

So roll with me, friends, because we are on a journey here and it is not all good or not all bad.

And when it comes to your healthcare in particular, it may work for you and it may not work for you, but this is your personal journey.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

Absolutely.

And this is where you need to talk to your doctor.

about whether or not this is going to work for you.

But it is interesting how Bob Jr.

came in.

He was all against the pharmaceutical companies and all against pharmaceuticals and more natural ways and all that stuff.

And all of a sudden, yep, I was up because the answer.

Although, as you said, it's only been used for a couple of years in studies that look at the efficacy and the side effects.

Those studies take a long time.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

They do take a long time and we do have a lot of data that shows that it is safe and it is effective for most people, but not for every single person.

So just again, underlying the importance of personal shared decision making for every single one of us.

And I also want to point out in this piece that you sent me, he wants to change the food culture.

This is a quote from him, change the food culture.

I also would like to change the food culture, but I can't even get my kids to eat vegetables.

It is hot.

It's to get people to eat healthy, locally produced, organic food that is good for us because that is just not how our culture has evolved.

So I really look forward to how he is going to change our food culture because he's high on rhetoric and low on details.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

Well, good heavens, Michelle Obama, when Barack Obama was in office and she started a garden and she started the whole let's move program and was crucial.

just excoriated for that.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

The thing with that, though, is that it started as a eating healthy campaign and let's get some healthier options in schools.

That's when people lost their minds.

Then they had to pivot it to the let's move campaign was just saying, Hey, get your kids outside for like 30 to 60 minutes a day because they had to kind of abandon the food aspect as.

It was fodder for 24-hour news networks, and anyone who felt like having to eat an asparagus was an infraction upon your freedom.

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Well, that's when Sarah Palin was going to hand up freedom cookies or something at all schools, because it was ridiculous.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

It's stupid.

It's political.

And it undermines our own health, because we start thinking about food and activity in political terms instead of what's actually good for

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

us.

I wanted to ask you a really quick question about, I just want to go back to Osemic for a second because it is, as you said, it's a fantastic drug.

I know people who are on it or on some version of it, an injectable

medicine to help them with weight loss, but it's not the catch all solve all it's not.

You're not going to take those epic and just lose weight.

There are other things you need to do.

I know somebody particular who is on it and they're upset that they're not losing more weight quicker.

And I said, well, are you eating better?

And are you exercising on a like two, maybe three times even for walks?

I'm even talking about going to gym for two hours a lot going for like a walk.

And they're like, not really.

I'm like, well,

that shot isn't the silver bullet, if you will.

You've got to do, it's part, as we've always said, in weight loss journeys, it starts with watching what you eat and getting some exercise.

From there, that's where you start, but ozempic is not just the fix-all, catch-all, it is the bringer of weight loss.

That's not how it works.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

I just want it to happen to me.

I don't want to wear for it.

Exactly.

Think about how long it took you to get to the point.

where you have attained this weight, it's not going to come flying off.

For some people it comes off pretty rapidly, but like it does take time.

And I'd also like to point out that RFK Jr.

has set a weight loss goal for America.

Did you see this?

It's 125 million pounds.

Let's go.

Freedom.

But

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

won't some of us be invisible then?

I saw somebody see you say that amount and I feel like that was lower I feel like I saw somebody Make the claim that if we really work we could lose like billions of pounds and they said that To do that every American would need to lose so much weight that people would end up being Like they'd wait nothing like there was no like once again.

No math was involved.

No research was involved and

This really speaks to something for me personally that's really close to my heart, which is weight loss journeys, mental health, healthy lifestyles.

It is a struggle.

I struggle with it every single day of my life.

And for people like RFK who goes on his social media and takes a shirt off and does pull ups, great.

I'm glad that you as a Kennedy have access to money and

and this equipment and a lifestyle that allows you to focus yourself on being healthy.

I don't mean that.

I'm glad you're healthy.

I really am.

It's not that easy for everyone.

And to say that everyone's going to get a wearable watch.

Everyone's going to go on an ozempic.

And we're going to be great.

And we're going to lose all this weight that, again, doesn't address the core problems of weight loss, maintaining healthy lifestyle, deserts, food, deserts, eating at a, you know, go ahead, have a piece of chocolate cake.

But throw a salad in there every once in a while, but we don't address that because we just think the osepics

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the fix.

Well, again, we want the magic bullet and we want we want the one thing that's going to do it for us without us having to do anything.

If you're just joining us on air on air, Dr. Kristen Lyrely is here host of.

The Dr. Kristen Lierly show that you can catch across the network on weekends, Saturdays and Sundays at noon.

Talking about the announcement by the Trump administration, I believe it was last week about Osempic.

They're going to be lowering the price because it was really expensive.

It was like 1500 bucks a month.

Now down to 150, which for a lot of people, that's still way.

Do expensive

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

that's putting that's putting things out of your like that's making a choice again

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

Well, exactly for this or is that or egg exactly, but the other thing Bob Kennedy actually said out loud in words in front of people and microphones that Osempic might be an answer for people who live in food deserts dr. Liarley

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

He is, this just underlines how out of touch he and the administration are.

They truly do not understand the struggles of Americans who are having to put food back at the grocery checkout.

Have you ever been in that situation?

It's humiliating.

That's how I grew up.

We were on snap.

It is the worst when your mom says, mm.

Can't have that.

But you know, it's worse now.

I mean, look at these people who are struggling to find affordable housing.

You can't afford their food.

You can't afford their health care.

How can they spend an extra $130 on Osempic?

That's not what they're thinking about.

They're living in a food desert where their only options are cans and bags.

There's no fresh food.

There's no education.

There's no information.

And a great place to start would be in schools where kids are being fed, where we can actually control the food that we are giving them and encourage them and teach them.

how to make healthy choices.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

Wouldn't that be just like, doesn't that make so much sense?

Well, again, I go back to if I read this correctly, and if my ears were working correctly, Bob Kennedy's junior junior's answer to people living in food deserts is take a drug so you won't be hungry.

And then you won't mind living in a food desert.

That doesn't seem to be a good fix.

to me.

And I'm not a doctor.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

Neither is Bob

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Kennedy Jr.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

How does SNL even do it anymore?

Because the things that these people are actually saying sound like parodies.

constantly, every day, it's something like this.

You know, I was talking with a colleague of mine the other day about all the things that are happening in women's health, and the Heritage Foundation is threatening birth control now.

I mean, we've been hearing about this, but

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they're just coming down the pike.

They're

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talking about wastewater.

They're talking about how birth control is affecting the entire population.

This is coming.

Nobody's talking about it, though, because the Republicans continue to flood the zone by starving Americans and recommending Ozempic as a solution.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

Well, we will talk about that.

on the other side.

What they would really rather we don't know that's happening.

I think that's important.

We're to continue talking with Dr. Kristen Lierly.

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Host of the Dr. Kristen Lyrely Show.

Catch it weekends at noon across the Civic Media Radio Network, yes.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

Guess who my guest is this

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week?

Me?

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It's Kristen Brown.

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Yay!

I'm having lunch when we're having lunch on Friday.

Oh,

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we had such a great conversation.

Oh, yeah, I can text her right now.

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We taped it last night.

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Oh, we had so much fun.

You know, it's just great to get the band back together every once in a while, isn't it?

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Absolutely.

We're hoping that we will hear from her my last week, which is four weeks away from

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today.

Yeah, four weeks away from

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today.

We're going to call.

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Can you call that episode the Kristen Briarley show?

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Really?

What is wrong with me today?

What is wrong with me

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today?

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And we're both ions.

That's how your differentiator and the Kristen community.

There you go.

The correct

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way, as Kristen Bray always said, the correct way to spell Kristen.

We're in the time that we have left.

We did have a great email come in from Teresa in Eau Claire.

We were talking about Osempic.

Before we went to the break, which now apparently...

is the Trump administration's answer to everything.

Teresa Neau Claire says, one of the biggest issues with Osempic is the people who use it for type two diabetes now can't get it because it's being over prescribed for people who want to lose weight.

I had to switch to another brand because my pharmacy could no longer get it.

The second issue is it's not a miracle drug for weight loss.

Yes, it suppresses your appetite, but the side effects are many.

And I honestly don't know why someone healthy.

would subject themselves to that.

And the other thing Craig and I were talking about this before we jumped on the air this morning, Dr. Lyrely, everybody freaking out about the COVID vaccine.

It's too soon.

It just came out.

We don't know.

It's gonna make me magnetic.

I'm still waiting.

But this, they can't wait to sign up for.

I'll

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take it.

I'll take it.

Absolutely.

I'll take it.

I know.

Well, so much of it is marketing.

politics is involved in all of this.

And you know, she's right.

When it comes to people who have needed this, this is where the bulk of the evidence has been in treating type two diabetes and having to change the medication, even though it's in the same class, your body doesn't react the same way.

So lots of people are really struggling with those changes.

It has been a difficult transition for many people.

Having said that, Ozambic does work nicely for a lot of folks as well.

So again, for the third time,

And today we all have to be able to make our own personal health care decisions and decide what is the right path for us.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

What happens when you stop taking it?

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

We don't know.

Because we've never done it on this level before, we've had so many people using it for weight loss.

What we've seen the preliminary data suggests that you actually start gaining the weight back, but what we're seeing a lot of people do now is micro dosing it.

You're even hearing this in the ads,

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like

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micro dosing.

It remains to be seen what's going to happen.

The thing that I worry about is that, you mentioned this earlier, Greg, if you're just using this and you're not doing that,

exercise and the healthy eating that goes along with it.

you're going to be losing muscle mass and really it is muscles that we need as we age.

Even if you're carrying a couple extra pounds, you really need to have a good strong frame because when you've got good muscles, you've got good bones and when you've got good bones, you're less likely to get fractures.

You will age better that way.

So if there's one plug I could put out there for all of us, a little bit of weight training, a little bit of strength training.

It doesn't have to be like grinding it out in the gym, but whatever you can do, whether it's Pilates or some resistance things at home, that does.

make a difference and will help you age better.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

And one of the things too, I wanted to talk about really quick whether it comes to this topic is that, you know, we live in a society with, you know, we live in a biggest loser society where we see people lose dozens, if not a hundred plus pounds in the course of a TV season.

That's not healthy either.

No, you are most likely going to gain that weight back.

Your body is going to struggle to go back to what it was used to.

And the moment you put down that extensive

very intense workout regimen your body is on its way to getting you back to where it thinks you need to be because your body thinks it's helping you and therefore you're going to gain weight and and against biology it's not your fault per se but you take it as well I fail I'm a failure I gain weight again no and and that's the problem is like if you want to lose weight

make a make small goals, do it over a long period of time.

And then you will see the benefits.

And then you'll have a better chance of keeping that weight off and you'll just be healthier.

And I mean, I know at least six people in my life who have had to go into surgery to remove loose skin because they go for these excessive crash diet slash workout plans where they're losing 50, 60, 70 pounds in six months.

And yeah, they feel good.

But a year later, they're getting it back back.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

And that's, that's way too quick to lose weight.

I'm sorry, but isn't it, isn't it a pound and a half, like every two weeks, Dr. Liarley, is really what we should be looking at?

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

That's like a guideline, but your body is going to do what your body is going to do.

If you just focus on activity and healthy eating, you're going to get there.

But you both mentioned this, the psychological aspect of it.

Your mind has to be in the game too.

This just isn't about your body.

And everybody's body is different.

We have different shapes.

We have different compositions.

We're dealing with different medical conditions.

So we really have to make sure that when we plan a weight loss journey, we're doing it for ourselves, not according to guidelines or the biggest loser or how much ozempic can I get.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

And talk to a doctor.

Talk to an nutritionalist.

Talk to people who are licensed, who are certified, qualified.

Don't talk to somebody who sells weight loss cream.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

And don't ask Bob Jr.

because he doesn't know.

Dr. Kristen Lyerly has a great show across the network, the Dr. Kristen Lyerly show, on noon.

Weekends across civic media.

Thank you so very much, my friend.

We will see you again soon.

Thank you, my friends.

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This is the portion of the show that we call audio Sorbet where we take a breath.

Get away from the news, talking about silly or other things.

Indeed.

Today.

Yeah.

This came up because we were talking about it before we jumped on the air.

Yeah.

When did your body first betray you?

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

Yeah.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

You get up one day and you're walking down the steps, you're walking down the stairs to the first floor and your left knee just goes, yeah, no, not today.

I'm gonna stop right here.

I'm gonna, nope, I had a good run.

Yep.

Today I'm done.

I might power back up, but we'll, we'll see.

Yeah.

Well, we'll, we'll get back to you on that.

Uh, you had a issue yesterday.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

No, this morning.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

Oh, it was this morning.

That's

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

right.

As you're dropping off,

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

uh,

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

yeah.

So, so we take our dog to daycare once a week and I'm a, drop her off before I come to the studio and I park.

next to the place I open the car door I leaning to give her a big kiss because that's why I do give a big kiss and tell her how much I love her because I can't stop because I'm unstoppable because I love that dog so much even though she mildly acknowledges me.

I lean in to give her a kiss to say, here we go.

And as I lean and give her a kiss, there is just a feeling.

It's not a sound.

It's nothing anyone could ever hear or be aware

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of.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

Not a noticeable crack

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or anything.

Yeah,

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just like a movement inside my left lower back.

And my whole body just goes out, stiff as a board.

in that bent position and I cannot move for like a solid 10 seconds.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

You're just stuck there.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

I'm stuck there.

It's like, I feel, and I feel this rush of pain from my hip through my tush down to my leg.

And I go, Oh no.

And I have to stand there.

I have to stand quote unquote.

If you want to call it standing, but I had to take a moment.

And she was kind of like getting like,

Let's go.

I'm ready to go in, dad.

And I'm like, nope, kiddo.

We got to take a moment.

We got to take a moment because Papa's got to just let his body be awful.

But that was the thing is like, I didn't do anything.

You bent down.

I bent over.

I had the audacity.

I didn't even bend over.

I just leaned in.

That's all I did.

And my body said, I'm going to ruin your day.

Not today.

And it hurts still.

It's much better than it was a couple hours ago.

If you've been watching the live stream, I have been moving and cause it just

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cannot

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comfortable space, but that's just, that's not, I wasn't dunking a basketball or like hauling heavy equipment up a hill, moving furniture, moving furniture.

I wasn't even, I barely was thinking.

And my body's like, Hey, how would you like to have an adventurous Wednesday?

and

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boom yeah when did your body first betray you 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 and you're 47

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I'm 47

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I turn

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48 in

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a few it's a month from today yes turn on the 12th

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

Yes, I've been-

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Lots of things going on in December- Not bringing that up at all.

Lots of things going on in December 12th.

Not bringing that up at all for

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December the 12th.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

At all.

We'll have many celebrations.

No, we will not.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

We will celebrate one thing in one thing only.

That is, he ain't matineeater.

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No, we're going to have multiple celebrations.

When did your body first betray you at 855-752-4842?

Jack from Miramaque is on the line.

Good morning, Jack.

Thanks for joining us.

What did she want to say?

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Well, I have been incredibly lucky about that The last time I was Climbing something I'm a rock climber among other things last time I was climbing something really hard I was only 70 and I was still doing 10s on a 10-point scale.

Well, you know what Jack?

I really don't

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

need to hear this right now from you.

Okay

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Now at 80 I'm still climbing but my I let my son lead the hard stuff

That's really

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impressive,

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Jack.

And my wife and I regularly go out east and we do a biking trip.

This last time, we did probably a couple hundred miles on the Erie Canal trail.

Eric, cut his mic, seriously.

I'm just kidding.

Like I said, I've been incredibly lucky.

And I've been a very appreciative of that.

And I do have

You know friends that are not as lucky and I always try to spend some time with them, too

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

But don't you think Jack because you have stayed active all these years?

That's probably one of them ways that you have insulated yourself from some of these things

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Well, and and that that does help.

Yeah, there's no question.

You know the old I'd rather wear out than rust out Work pretty much for me, so

It's it's it's been a good it's been a good run

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

it now really quick Jack have this been have have you been

in an active lifestyle for a long time or was this something where you said, I need to take up some activities that kind of bring it.

Cause like, like what you're doing, I like cause it's, you know, rock climbing is very fun, biking is very fun.

It's, it's not fun to get dressed and go to the gym unless you want to pump iron and get all swole.

But like going for a bike ride or even going for like an hour long walk, that's great exercise, doing some small stretches.

But is this something that's been part of your life for decades or is this something you discovered maybe later?

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I started competition swimming when I was 16 years old.

In between, besides the swimming, I've done dance and obviously the climbing and biking.

So I've been really pretty active.

One of the important things about that though is you have to listen to your body.

I have only

only had a couple of injuries in all those years, including in the climbing.

But you have to listen to your body and when it says, not today, you have to believe it.

My

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body says that a lot.

Well, but the whole thing about you have to play through the pain

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and you have to go

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through the pain.

Yeah, no, don't.

Your body is sending you a message, right, Jack?

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Yeah, because you can...

cause an injury or you can make an injury worse than doing that and that is important and and also if somebody is going to start working out at uh you're doing a very active

or an active activity at a later age, you gotta take your time.

Start slowly and build up over time.

When I go on a bike trip, I lose some of my upper body strength because I'm not climbing and I'm not, and then I do, I do get the gym and the weight room too.

And when I return, I start very, very slowly to build up back to where I was.

And that's a critical.

If you're going to start carefully, listen to your body.

If you can get together with a good, competent trainer, or if you have an orthopedic doctor that you're comfortable with, get some advice that way.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

I appreciate that, Jake.

Thank you so much.

I had

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

no idea we were talking to Jack from Merrimack, also known as Jack LaLaine.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

My

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

goodness.

That's a very old reference for some of you, but still, I mean, all of what he said was exactly, I mean, I almost wanted to invite Dr. Lyrely to this portion because we're going to talk about the fact that you do your body better by introducing small pieces of exercise into your life.

And it doesn't have to be three hours at the gym or a

50 mile bike ride.

It can be 45 minute walk.

It can be some resistance bands.

It can be some light stretches in the morning.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

It can be a dance class.

It

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

can be a dance.

Jack the Dancer.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

I love that.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

He's kind of my new, he's my, he's my, he's what I'm

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

reaching for now.

He's 80 and he's obviously in better shape than we are.

Okay.

All right.

Sorry.

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Today for Audio Sorbet.

When did your body first betray you?

Terry texting in, listening at WAUK.

I ruptured my right Achilles while climbing Dunn's River Falls in Jamaica.

I was in my twenties.

I thank you, Terry.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

I think I did something also.

I need that's another part of it.

And if anyone's been listening this year to the show, I've been taking series of, you know, medical things like going to the doctor more doing like, you know,

Getting the test getting the getting the test and doing all this stuff and I one of the things I finally have to I think I did something to my Achilles on my left foot because it's just it's not

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

good not working and

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

and and and what Jack just said really resonated you can't play through the pain because even though I'm not going and playing football in the park I'm walking and that's constant stress and pressure you're putting on your body so yeah Yes, I can feel that pain right

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

now Terry.

Thanks Jack.

Join us

When did your body first betray you at 855-752-4842?

Brett from Brown Deer joining us on the line.

Good morning, Brett.

What did you want to say?

Brett from Brown Deer (Caller)

Good morning, guys.

Oh, I remember this day.

Wow.

I was on the back of a pickup truck with my buddy unloading some tile.

And when I went to jump off like a million times, I do.

My brain would not let me.

My brain just said, no.

No.

No, you don't do this anymore.

And I kind of thought for a minute, I'm like, how dare you tell me?

And I was still ready to jump off, but I'd be damned if I didn't sit down and my legs dropped the tailgate and hopped down like a spade rash.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

When you sat down, Brett, did you swing your legs to like a kid like, here I go, catch me?

A

Calvin Bupenoff (Technical Support)

little

Brett from Brown Deer (Caller)

bit.

I'll never forget that the brain, well now I always trust my brain, you know.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

That is so funny.

Your brain is there to help you.

That is so funny, Brad.

For the most part.

That is what I, thank you so much.

That's hilarious.

What about you, Jane?

Um, actually over the weekend, and I'm walking down the steps.

Yes.

Saturday morning, like I always do.

Yeah.

To go get my cup of coffee.

Yep.

And my left knee just went, yeah, no.

I'm halfway down the shut it down halfway down the steps and my left knee just went Yeah, I I haven't fallen I haven't tripped on anything.

I haven't walked into anything It just for about two hours Yeah, it was like you're gonna have to work around me

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

my friend Tia ripped her ACL walking down a step now bopping down a step not dancing

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or like

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

walking just took a human step and went

I once was laying in bed, and I just stretched that that nice morning stretch you get and it pulled my back so hard that they had to send me home from work.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

That's not fair.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

We're

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

falling apart.

I know eight five five seven five two four eight four two one

Did your body first betray you?

That is our audio survey question for today.

Liz from Salkville.

I tore my ACL and my left knee while mashing at my parents' house when they were gone.

And I was in my 20s.

Yeah,

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

that sounds, I got, I pinched my sciatic nerve in my 20s.

And when my doctor told me what had happened, he goes, Hey, you're a sciatic nervous pension.

Like, doesn't that happen exclusively to people in their 80s?

Like, I feel like you're,

Like, your sciatic nerve doesn't even develop until you're 65.

I

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

had sciatica really badly for about five years.

It is excruciatingly painful.

Yes, it is.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

I would walk, and sometimes, like, when it would flare up through my heel, I would crumple to the floor.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

Oh, yeah.

It used to drop me.

Yeah.

It would drop me to the ground.

Jack from Aramaic texting in, and I think this is good.

By the way, going to the doctor more isn't necessarily a bad thing.

It's called...

preventative maintenance.

We do it for our cars.

We should do it for our bodies.

Fair point.

Fair point.

Thank you everybody for joining us today.

That was a lot of fun.

We're not alone.

You're not alone.

We're not alone.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

We're all

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

falling apart.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

We're here in the Lombago Lounge, sponsored by Dones, Backpilt

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

Dones.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

Back off.

I'm

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

feeling good.

And Lazy Boy will help you get out of the chair.

When we return, we'll wrap it up as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today, the Stop, Crock and Roll Edition

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There is a lot to cover with Mr. Santel.

Lots of court cases going on.

Lots of things going on.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

Yeah.

And if you want to really deep dive into what's happening in the world of law, I would suggest listening or watching on the civic media live stream.

Amicus, a law review because Jim Santel is a

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attorney, practicing attorney.

He worked under five presidents, which means he served at the pleasure of five people who are elected different parties.

He knows what the constitution's all about.

He talks about these topics at length and gives you a really good digestible deep dive into what's happening in the world of law.

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He does a really nice job of explaining things that are not in lawyer speak.

Yeah, exactly.

So that, that's why we, one of the reasons why we love it so much.

And then because it is Thursday, a journal sentinels JR Ratcliffe will be here to talk all things sports.

We'll pretend there's good news somewhere.

Pat Murphy is the coach of the year.

That's a good thing.

That's a good thing.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

Pancakes, pancakes in your pocket.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

Also, I want to give a shout out to Dan Schaffer, Civic Media's political editor and creator of the Recompobulation Area.

Dan and I sat down for an interview after I announced my retirement a couple of weeks ago.

You're retiring?

I am retiring in four weeks, four

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weeks

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

from today.

Who knew?

And we did an interview.

Yeah.

So if you would like to know a little bit more about

my decades.

You stopped talking about it like that, okay?

Well, in radio, Dan's got a really, he's done a really, really nice job.

I owe him lots of money for making me look so good.

My goodness.

So thank you to Dan Schaefer for that.

Really appreciate it.

It is 1055 Calvin that means it's time for this shouldn't be a thing if you ever Stumble over a thing you think should not be send it into Greg and me at Jane says at civicmedia.us this from the BBC Lana lamb has the byline evidence of ancient tree climbing drop crocs found in Australia

Scientists have unearthed Australia's oldest known crocodile eggshells, which they think belonged to drop crocs.

Creatures that climb trees to hunt prey below.

Discovering the 55 million year old eggshells in a farmer's backyard in Queensland, Australia.

Queensland back in the news?

Queensland back in the news.

The eggshells belong to a long extinct group of crocodiles known as mekosushines.

Could be right, could be wrong.

Who lived in inland waters when Australia was part of Antarctica and South America?

Yes, these crocodiles, they believe the drop croc eggshells indicate that they were terrestrial hunters in the forests.

So essentially we have crocodiles that can climb trees and then drop on you from above.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

Okay.

Other Unidentified Speaker

Yes.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

You know, I love science.

You know, I love evolution.

You know, I love space.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

That's

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

not, that's neither here nor there right now, but question I have is one, how do they know that these crocodile actually climb trees and drop where they're just like, where they're fossilized imprints of the backs where they fell off and just landed on their, on their tucuses and like.

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

That's a really decent, that those are all very valid questions.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

I mean, I don't doubt the existence of these crocodiles, but my, my question is, how are they able to ascertain not only how they hunted, but their ability to climb trees?

Are they finding claw marks in fossilized trees?

Also, I can't stop saying crikey.

It's a drop croc and just because if I'm going to do an Australian accent, I'm going to do it right.

That's a movie in the making right there.

Drop-a-dial Dundee?

No, that's dumb.

Sorry.

It didn't work there.

That was, I should, I

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

should quit.

I should

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

drop crocodile Dundee.

There you go.

Well,

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

workshop.

Professor Michael Archer says drop crocs were a bizarre idea, but some were perhaps hunting like leopards, dropping out of trees on any unsuspecting thing they fancied for dinner.

The drop crocs could grow to about five meters.

They were plentiful 55 million years ago, long before modern salt water and freshwater crocodiles arrived about 3.8 million years ago.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

When I was younger, we used to climb

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

the trees and get our

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

prey.

Now, all

Jane Matt Nair (Host)

you kids just swim around in the water and just wait for it to come to you.

Lazy crocodiles.

Just absolute bunk.

Hate it.

Shame to see what's happening to crocodiles today.

Crikey!

That wraps up today's episode of...

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