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Dan Schaefer is here.
Dan, before we move on, I wanted to share this breaking at this hour.
The Trump administration has filed an emergency stay motion at the first circuit.
trying to block the judge's order to pay full SNAP benefits for November.
Yeah, they really don't want to make people to get their benefits.
They really, really don't.
Yeah, this lawless administration is defying court orders left and right on so many different things.
But this one, you know, this one, they're trying their, trying their darndest to not have to feed people.
And I don't, I don't understand.
They're doing, you know, they're bombing
boats in the middle of the Caribbean or whatever, which is completely outside of the- Yes.
The scope of law.
...duties raising tariffs all the time.
But now, this is where they really want to plant their flag.
Well, and I wonder, then how do you come back to folks and say, we really want to take care of you?
We're the Republican Party.
We want to take care of you, but we're going to fight tooth and nail to make sure your SNAP benefits don't get funded, you little moochers.
Well, and that's kind of brings it into the what I was discussing before we ran out to grab a snack and some water.
We're back now.
And I want to talk about that is the messaging of the modern mega movement, which I think it's safe to say, based on Tuesday's election, there was a wide swath of Americans who said these policies are unpopular.
We don't like this direction.
Okay, that's done.
those people won or they lost.
Now we move on to Wisconsin and we're going to have a whole host of people running for office.
Now, the Democrats, they're going to do what they need to do.
They're going to run in their message.
I'm not really focusing on what they're going to say, but you're going to have Republicans, Tom Tiffany included, who are going to, in order to have any sort of popularity and want an endorsement from Donald Trump or the mega movement, they're going to have to hook their wagon on to this message, which isn't popular, but here is the rub.
They can't come out and then say, I don't like any of these policies.
I'm a real Republican because I want to do X, Y, and Z to help you, which is fine.
But then you are going to be called a rhino.
They can run someone against you just because they don't like you.
Wisconsin Republicans who want to either run for office or run for reelection are in a very, very untenable situation because they have to somehow make this turd be shiny.
Because America said no last this week and now next year they have to say Snap and if it's that that's something we'll talk about later like they're gonna have to defend these policies and and we've seen them try to do this in town halls and they fail spectacularly Every single time so I want to know from from the callers from Dan from Eugene Cal throw your two cents in as well How do Republicans campaign?
on this message that America has said, we're good.
I think they will just try to narrow the focus and only want to talk about the issues that they want to talk about.
They're going to talk about immigration.
They're going to talk about crime.
You know, they're going to talk about any number of things like that, that the fear mongering.
We know this from recent Wisconsin elections that they're really going to dial up all kinds of the fear mongering type messaging.
And it is the
always the old fallback that Republicans will go to whenever that they don't have a great message to run on, which I don't think they do right now.
And we talked about, you know, the economic issues I think should be first and foremost for all of this.
I think Republicans also lost on immigration in these elections this week, too.
And I think in some of these swings that you see, you know, down ballot in Virginia and Atlanta elsewhere,
big swings in Latino populations
going back
to Democrats.
And so if that was part of the calculus that Republicans were baking in, hey, we have this new coalition that we've brought a number of Hispanic voters onto the Republican side, I don't know if they're sticking around after what has been happening these past couple of years, instead of going after the criminals the way that they said they would.
The worst
of
the worst.
sending people to daycares in Chicago and teargassing residential neighborhoods under this banner of mass deportation.
And I don't think...
regular people like that approach.
I think people are okay with, you know, deporting people who are who are repeat criminals or whatever it might be.
But when you have people going into daycares, and teargassing residential neighborhoods, that's a different dynamic.
When they have to say, please don't teargas them during trick or treat, there is a massive problem.
But then on the other side of that coin, then, and by the way, if you're just joining us on Matt and Aaron air on the civic media radio network, we are talking to civic media's political editor,
and founder of the multi award-winning recombobulation area, Mr. Dan Schaefer.
And we're talking about Tuesday's elections, what it means for America, what it means for Wisconsin coming up in 2026.
And I think the other, you know, Democrats don't walk away too quickly.
We got, I got something for you all to find out is that for the past 10 months, they've been licking their wounds off of definite and definite.
Voter turnout from last year saying yeah, we don't like what you're doing either.
We don't trust what you're doing We didn't like your candidate.
We didn't like your messaging.
You said you guys said the economy was great My groceries are going up.
So what I'm afraid of is that Democrats the dem I should say the Democratic Party I want to talk about in machine like corporate terms the Democratic Party will sit there and go.
Oh, see it's fine now We're doing better.
We just do this.
No, you've got to take the momentum and still build a cogent succinct
Message for people to digest quickly and get on board instead of just shrugging your shoulders going well I guess I guess they like us now, so let's keep doing what we're doing.
Hmm You're right this has to be a sustained action this has to be You know up and down the ballot and I think it has to be
You know, I think there's some people who are trying to draw conclusions from these elections say, oh, Mamdani won.
So obviously we should give the progressives a turn.
Or Spanburger won in Virginia.
Let's give the
moderates turn.
I think the approach has to be...
Both.
It has to be the big tent of bringing together all corners of the Democrat big tent that is the Democratic Party and getting them to row in the same direction and not be bogged down by the party in fighting the litmus tests and all of those different things to all.
you know, to recognize that in order to defeat Trump, in order to defeat Republicans, it's going to take all, all ideological
sides
of the Democratic Party.
And it's not just my guy won, so this is the path.
It is.
bringing everybody together under that big tent and having that narrative to go forward, especially focusing on the economy, focusing on the issues that Donald Trump has not fixed that he pledged to.
And just the fact that look over and over again, we have a better economy under Democrats.
I mean, you know, I know Bill Clinton said that at the at the DNC last year and it kind of flew into the radar, but it's just like
it's accurate
over and over again.
Republicans tend to like I'm, you know, I turned 40 this week.
in my lifetime, there has not been a great economy under a Republican president.
I want to go back a little bit, Dan, when you were talking about the Hispanic vote and the Tuesday results that saw some big shifts.
And I saw something yesterday, some of the talking heads were saying, so the new maps that Greg Abbott in Texas essentially said, Trump told me to do this, so I'm doing this.
Didn't ask the constituents, didn't ask people to get to vote about it.
Greg Abbott just did this.
may come back to bite them now because of the way that these maps were drawn.
They just assumed that a lot of people in these areas that had Hispanics in it were going to continue to support Trump.
Tuesday's results, maybe that's not making them feel so good.
That looks like Jane
to me, short-sighted thinking without long-range planning.
That's what we in the political science nerd community call a dummy-mander.
They are dummy Mandarin themselves by they assumed that the shifts that happened particularly in Southwest Texas near the border last year Which shifted in a big way away from Biden towards Trump They are assuming that those were permanent shifts, right?
And I think what we've seen over and over again with the Republican Party is that when Trump is not on the ballot It is a different electorate that turns out it is a different turnout
group.
They had super high turnout among Republicans last year who came to vote for Trump.
But that hasn't been the case in the midterms in 2018.
It wasn't the case in the midterms in 2022.
And if we look ahead to next year, it is a different electorate that turns out the midterms than it has turned out in general elections more broadly, and particularly when Trump is on the ballot.
Even some of his endorsements this time around did not go so
well.
JD Vanz is half brother lost.
I mean, I know it's just have but still like there shows there's not a lot of cachet and something Dan you said I think that's very very important for the Democrats and the Democratic Party and that machine to remember is that the purity test cannot happen Look, you can run progressive candidates in major cities.
They have shots people will
agree with those policies, maybe a little bit better than, say, a Pennsylvania working class steel town, but you can run a moderate.
What the Democratic Party needs to look at is who needs what where, run the best candidates who can do it, and then the biggest challenge is then finding that unifying candidate for the presidential race who can speak to everyone.
And honestly, right now, and he gives me goosebumps when I listen to him talk, and I never thought I'd say this, is Pete Buttigieg.
He can talk to everyone about
Anything and he's measured.
He's professional But he has passion and patriotism in his voice when I listen to him talk and he's never trying to do anything But have a conversation with people who both agree and didn't agree with him and I think you need someone like that to unify that party in That vein not him.
I'm not saying I'm not endorsing anyone.
I'm just saying he cannot be
it cannot be a stalwart that just says, come with us, we'll take care of you, because that won't work again.
Well, and what I love about Pete Buttigieg in particular is he is completely unflappable.
You cannot rattle that guy, you can throw whatever at him, and he's got the answers, he's got facts to back it up, and he is measured and well-spoken, and yeah, I think some other politicians could learn a lot from watching how Pete Buttigieg communicates.
He's a great communicator.
That's no doubt about that.
I you know He was part of the Biden administration and people don't love the Biden administration and necessarily So I think that would be a challenge,
but I
do think again It's just the recognizing the need for this to be a big tent approach going forward and getting rid of those litmus tests and making it so that
More more people can be in the tent and we're not kicking anybody out of it
Yeah, and instead of having someone at a podium yelling here.
Come here.
Come here Let's all get together put people at various places in the tent to organize them and then we'll all listen as one instead of bickering and fighting over who is the better Democrat or liberal or progressive or whatever
well And I think we heard this from activists who are on the ground the importance of people in that community
being the ones who knock on doors because you shop at the same grocery stores and you go to the same doctor's offices and things like that, that makes a big difference by having local folks knocking on local doors.
There was one quote from a consultant in New York City talking about the Mamdani race and why it was successful and it was somebody who worked with the campaign and just like make it a campaign about the actual New York
City.
Not about like the national narratives about New York, not about like what are this and that and the other thing that you see in Fox News or whatever it might be, the actual New York City.
And so I think that's the approach that needs to be taken everywhere.
Make it about the actual Walkshot County, the actual Wisconsin, the actual, you know, this, that and the other going forward.
That needs to be the approach.
Dan Schaefer will be here.
We're going to talk about Wisconsin's Department of Public Instruction.
Finally, we heard something.
We'll kick that around next.
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to kick things around.
Finally, after
that
devastating report from the Cap Times about Wisconsin's Department of Public Instruction, which looks like they were covering up for teachers who were being accused of abuse and grooming, Dr. Jill Underly has finally come out with a statement.
What is your reaction to that, Dan?
I think your mic is muted.
Apologies.
I'm glad that she showed up.
Of course, I think it was ridiculous that she didn't show up for the last one.
I'm glad that she showed up for this one and I'm glad that she is proposing reforms within the department of public construction addressing a number of things.
I don't love that she called it a political sideshow in one of the comments, especially considering that there is good solid investigative reporting that happened at the cap times.
It led to an assembly committee hearing That she had to answer for it led to this host of proposed reforms and that's what good reporting can do.
Yes And good good investigative journalism shout out to the cap time.
Yes
to the reporters
and
editors who have been working on this I saw you know a comment from one of the editors at the cap time saying that is it is it a political sideshow when your department?
reacts
to the reporting with a bunch of proposed reforms.
It seems
like now, outside of a little bit of the circus that has happened here, things have kind of followed a path that they should.
We have an investigative report.
It is taken seriously by leadership in the state.
They hold informational hearings, they hold public hearings, they try to get to the bottom of what's happening, and they propose reforms and changes.
That seems like the type of process that we should applaud I think some of what underlies handling of this and not showing up to the first one and and criticizing the reporting and calling it a sideshow I don't like and I think she is wrong to be taking that type of approach But at the end of the day
If this reporting is going to lead to more transparency at the Department of Public Instruction about these investigations into, you know, misconduct involving teachers or people working in schools, that's a good thing if we have more transparency at the end of the day on that.
If this leads to a law, as I believe has been proposed as part of this process that would define what grooming is and, you know,
Have some sort of penalties for those teachers who engage these types of activities.
I think that's a good thing You know I will Caution a little bit about the Republicans about this because it does seem like they are maybe getting a little bit out over their skis and making this you
know
a
like a campaign issue
or
something like that, which I'm not sure that it is.
It is good investigative reporting that has revealed a problem and they have the opportunity to solve that problem.
And I think ultimately at the end of the day, that's the type of thing that we should...
you know, and I saw some of the comments from Republicans in that hearing say like, hey, it's from the cap times, not exactly a, you know, a bastion of, uh, integrity, not exactly the, no, not, I forget exactly the terminology.
So I don't want to like, misquote anybody, but like, I think the, the insinuation was, oh, it's this kind of like left leaning paper from Madison.
If they're saying it, then it's, no, we should approach, we should respond to like any good investigative reporting by taking it seriously and, and getting to the bottom, bottom of things.
And, you know,
As you pointed out, Dan, this is another good reason why we should all be supporting our local reporting outlets by subscribing.
Because when you don't have humans on the ground, you don't get these kinds of reports.
You don't get this kind of investigation, which can take a long time.
We talked to John Dietrich at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, some of the stories they've done about gun violence, those take months to put together.
Again, it's on the ground.
Reporters tracking people down, meeting them face to face.
There is a lot involved in good journalism, and that's why it costs money.
It's hard work.
Investigator journalism is hard work, and this was a year in the making from the Cap Times reporter, Danielle DeClos.
I'm not 100% sure.
Apologies to that reporter if I'm mispronouncing your last name.
But yeah, this was a year in advance, and she tweeted yesterday, since the first installment of Dismissed, that's the name of the series, was published, state superintendent increased access to misconduct data, legislators have held three hearings, and nonpartisan state auditors are auditing DPI's licensed misconduct investigations.
Again, this wouldn't have happened without some good solid investigative journalism.
We need more of that.
We need to support the outlets that are doing that too.
Yeah.
And unfortunately, you know, the, the comments we got when we talked about it for the couple of weeks was that, you know, they, unfortunately on the Republicans want to make a lot of this, but I would say, you know, as I think getting above, getting above their skis is a very good way of putting it, but Democrats I've spoken to can't really talk to the silence that came through and Tony Evers said something.
He, he, he, he joined them.
Hakeem Jeffries, Mike Johnson clubs like, well, I don't know what's going on.
I haven't heard anything.
You are the governor.
You know, you know, that's not an acceptable response.
So it's
not an acceptable response.
So it's very, very frustrating.
And I'm glad that these new, these new points are being put into play for access for oversight.
It's great.
But I'm sorry.
And my thing that I'm always thinking about is the fact that Jill Underly could have done this in her first term because it was known was going on then.
And that's what then, and they're doing it because they were caught.
And that's the really frustrating thing to me.
That's why we need good journalism.
Yeah, and we need to support good journalism like Dan Schaefer like our news department We have news coming up next and then we're gonna lighten it up with some audio Sorbet rules as we get older.
Oh Yeah, there's rules.
We should all be following bad news guys.
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This is the portion of the show.
where we like to lighten things up and get away from the news and take a breath.
We call it Audio Sorbet.
Today's Audio Sorbet comes from a discussion earlier this morning.
Yeah.
On mornings with Pat Krightlow.
Six to nine Monday through Friday on the Civic Media Radio Network.
There you go.
Greg was on the show this morning and Pat was all on this kick about men of a certain age cannot wear sports jerseys anymore.
Yeah, so
they say and there's always this amorphous they We don't know who they these experts are but they're there they say that when a man turns 60 You're not supposed to wear sports jerseys
anymore and because today is national jersey day.
Yes, and When we were talking about this and it wasn't just that it was the fact that Pat as well as a couple of textures were saying it as if it was
common knowledge that, of course, you're a man of a certain age.
You don't wear sports jerseys.
Get yourself right.
Put on a suit and tie.
It just was this thing of like, yeah, that's what everyone, why don't you know this?
And I was truly shocked by the information and I completely disagree with it.
I would agree.
I would disagree also.
I think those sorts of rules are, let me see what's the word I'm looking for.
Dumb?
And I think if you want to be a hundred year old person and wear a sports jersey, you can do that.
And we're also bringing this up because as Dan mentioned earlier, you did celebrate a rather momentous birthday this week.
Calvin, do we have something to celebrate
that?
Calvin's screening the call.
Oh, gotcha.
40 years old.
There you go.
Dan Shaper turning 40.
years old, earlier
this week.
Over the hill.
Oh my goodness.
Happy birthday,
Dan.
Thank you.
That's also, we've talked about that too on the show, is that when I was growing up, I don't know about you, Dan, and I'm sure Jane, you know this too, but people would throw over the hill parties with like black streamers and there was an over the hill like economy in the party favor world.
Yes.
And those just don't really happen anymore.
I had a 40th birthday party.
It wasn't an over-the-hill birthday party.
It was just- You didn't get Metamucil as a gift or anything like that.
No, no.
I got pizza, which was great.
And I wore a sports shirt.
No, I'm just kidding.
I just don't feel like we treat 40 the way we used to.
It was sort of like the beginning of your midlife.
And I'm a middle-aged man.
You're okay with that.
I'm okay.
I'm okay with that.
You can almost say it out loud.
But yeah, I just... What do you...
You're 40 now, Dan.
I know it's not much different than 39, and it's definitely much different than 41, but what is your first impressions of 40?
Well, I'm old.
I feel old.
Cool, man.
Well, have a good day, everybody.
You're a youngster.
I feel like I am the age that I am.
I have two kids and been married for more than 10 years.
We're homeowners and they
have a good
job and I have a mortgage.
I feel like I do a lot of things that 40 year olds do.
So my kids sure keep me young a whole lot.
My youngest is home today from school because they had a day off
and he was having a
wonderful time not interrupting the show by watching the parent trap on an iPad.
Which parent trap?
Which one?
Which one?
Which one?
Which one?
The Lindsay Lohan one.
Gotcha, okay.
That's the girl's favorite movie.
But, you know, yeah, I feel 40.
I feel that age.
And so I'm embracing it.
I've been leaning into it this
year.
And but, you know, it is still just like this week has been a little discombobulating, let's say, to see like those that actual number appear and to wake up and be 40 years old and all of that.
So it's a lot.
But, you know, I had a really good actual birthday on Wednesday.
I saw a movie, went out to
dinner with a bunch of friends and had some Indian food.
And then my wife got us a stay at the fister for the night.
Nice.
And so we've had, I had a really, really nice birthday and my wife set up some amazing gifts for me and all of that too.
So it's been, it's been a real, really fun week.
Well, a mutual colleague, Tony Larino sent me a link earlier this week.
The People Magazine, of course, has picked their sexiest man alive.
whose name is Jack Bailey.
Sure.
His name is Bailey and he sent it to me and he said sexiest man alive could be Dan Schaefer.
You look up there is a resemblance between you and people sexiest man alive Dan Schaefer.
So take that for what it's worth.
Alright, I will tell my wife that over
and over again.
Take that weird compliment, Dan!
Let me
tell her that once.
Yeah, I wouldn't overplay that too much.
Our
audio... I
will overplay it.
Our audio survey topic today is, what rules have you been told that you shouldn't do X at this age?
What rules have you been told which you flout?
because that shouldn't be a thing, really.
For women, and I can say this as a woman of a certain age, women my age should not have hair this long.
Wait, you're saying that people tell you that or that's your... Oh,
that's a rule.
They say.
They say.
They say.
The
royal they.
The royal they.
Women over 50 should not have hair longer than shoulder length and mine is longer than shoulder length and I am breaking that rule.
Google Demi
Moore, done.
Oh, if I only, yes, we had so much in common.
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What rules do they say that you shouldn't do anymore after a certain age?
And you're like, yeah, I'm not going to buy that.
I'm going to do it anyway.
Cindy from Appleton is joining us on the phone.
Good morning, Cindy.
What'd you want to say?
Well, I have two points to make.
The first one is I didn't think you were supposed to wear diapers over 60 either.
What?
Okay.
Oh,
come on.
I'm sorry, Cindy.
I've never seen you try to crack a joke before.
So I didn't know what to do with that information.
Okay.
So anyway, I didn't think we're supposed to wear diapers or 60.
And my second point is life's too dang short.
Yeah.
Whatever the heck you want.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's, and that's my thing is like this arbitrary idea that people, I think it was, I think it was for men too.
Men shouldn't wear, I do, I do not understand the correlation between age and sports jerseys because we see people wearing them all the time of all ages, of all ilks, sizes, colors.
It doesn't matter.
Right.
As long as not a bear's jersey, but the point is you can wear a jersey whenever you want.
So yeah, that's one I just don't understand.
And, and I agree, Cindy, that thing of, well, you're getting older.
So you should do X and I just feel like you should do what makes you happy.
And if that thing is, you know, wearing a jersey, wearing a jersey, do you like, are you a person who likes building Lego Legos for all ages?
You know, it's like that it's a very bygone tradition in my opinion to be like, well, because it stems from the, well, that's how we did it when I was younger.
That's how we've always, and we've talked about this point before, but on a political matter of like, well, this is how we've always done it.
Well,
Times have changed.
It's
time to not do it that way.
Exactly.
Never a good reason to do things.
The way we've always done it.
No.
That's never a good reason to keep doing things.
Being, you mentioned like from your point of view, Dan, you know, you got married.
You've been married for more than 10 years.
You have two kids.
You are 40 years old.
You have a house.
You have jobs.
You have responsibilities.
You have, I think, what people would call the typical American life.
What opinions do you hear coming in your circles?
of age or of you're too old to do this, too young to do that.
What do you hear from people?
Because I don't run certain circles.
I don't run in parent circles because they're like, we're your kids.
I'm like, funny story, I don't have any, but I'm still here to party.
But what do you hear from people?
Well, I think it is.
I think you're right.
There's just like less of a fewer examples of just like, oh, you need to be doing things like this at a certain age.
Like there are some people who say you have to be, you know, parenting a certain, you know, yeah.
Somebody's chiming in here.
Speaking of
parenting,
yes.
He'll be right there, sweetie.
But, but I think, you know, you can, I think there is a lot of things happening in the millennial generation where you just kind of have this approach where you make your own rules
on
certain things.
I think that is kind of a hallmark of our generation in a lot of ways, where you don't have to be this buttoned up version of what maybe people thought a 40 year old person should be might or should be.
So I think that is that's a lot.
You know, I have friends who are, you know, had kids much younger, had her still thinking of having kids.
later, you know, I think, but I think there's a lot of examples that are people are kind of just like getting rid of these old rules and carving their own path.
And I think that is ultimately the way that people should do things.
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Audio Sorbet today, we're talking about the rules that they set.
This Royal Bay, we don't know how they, who these experts are, but they say,
Men shouldn't wear sports jerseys over this age.
Women over 50 shouldn't have their hair longer than their shoulders.
Women shouldn't exist over 50 because what good are you?
That's what I feel like the society is saying.
Carmella from Milwaukee listening on WAU cases.
This is the most ridiculous non-political thing I've heard in a long time.
Don't tell my husband he just turned 64 in October.
He wears sports jerseys and concert t-shirts as his regular attire.
Don't get me wrong.
He can pull off business and dress the tire like no one's business.
He wore a tux for a wedding last year and he owned it.
There you
go.
And I think that, you know, I feel like Gen X being, you know, between the two generations kind of did their best to like say throughout especially the nineties.
I don't have to listen to you.
I don't care what you think.
And we did whatever we wanted to do in our, in our Gen X way, but I feel like millennials specifically down.
I think you're absolutely right.
As millennials knock on 40 years old, which is bonkers pants.
You guys have de-stigmatized a lot of things from the very fun to the very serious discussion points.
I think one of them actually has to do with, you know, being married at a certain age, having kids at a certain age, having kids at all.
And, you know,
not having these, not doing these things because someone told you you had to or you were expected saying, I'll get married when I find love.
Or maybe I won't, maybe I'll have a partner for 35 years and I'll be just as happy.
Maybe I'll have 12 kids.
Maybe I'll adopt one child.
Maybe we'll give all of our love to a dog.
I'm just saying the last parts about me.
But I think that millennials are, have done a very good job of rejecting things on the level of logic too.
And not like a, cause Gen X was like a PJ on the live stream.
Gen X said here and we don't care.
That's fine.
But I think what Gen X did actually did is said, when you were given, you know, social cues, you guys said, why?
Like, why should I have to?
And then there's like, Oh, I can't tell because, because that's how we've always done
it.
So yeah, again,
we're rejecting those I'm gonna let Brett from brown deer have the last word on this at 63 I let my body make the rules in my 50s My brain told me to long no longer jump off the back of a truck
Good thinking.
Go with that.
You
listening,
kids?
Go with
that.
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I will have the day off.
Gonna have the day off.
I'm very proud of you.
Thank you for taking a day off because who vacates nowadays?
Well, no, because you're going to have something, a health procedure done and I'm good for you.
Thank you very much.
A lot of people end up putting off their colonoscopies.
Don't do it.
Go get one.
And now you know.
I offered to call in afterwards and I was told no.
After I had mine, I was so out of it, trust me, the last... That's when you want me on the show.
No,
no, no, no, no.
I want you to go home and relax and take a nap because you're going to want it.
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Great guy.
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Then Civic Media's news director, Shaly Pittman will be here to recap all of the things that happened over the weekend.
And we're going to talk about Medicare.
Enrollment period is underway.
I talked to a friend of mine yesterday who is 87, who said he had 22 calls yesterday for Medicare Advantage plans.
Oh, yeah.
22
calls.
Yes.
It's important to note that Medicare is not the same thing as Medicare Advantage.
Should not be
called
that.
No, it really shouldn't.
So Ingrid Kundinger with the Medicare Patrol Program, is the Medicare Patrol Program Director.
And she's going to join us on Monday to talk about the differences between Medicare and all these Medicare Advantage plans.
They're not the same thing.
And a lot of people sell them that way.
Absolutely.
And that's what it's about.
It's about making a sale.
Yep.
It is just about 10.55 Kelvin.
That means it's time for this shouldn't
be a
thing.
Should you ever find a thing you think should not be, send it into Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us j-a-n-e-s-a-y-s janesaysatcivicmedia.us Calvin found this one from CNN, Jack Guy with the byline.
That's a fake name.
Headline reads, Paris residents can now enter lottery to share cemetery space with Jim Morrison and Oscar Wilde.
The city of Paris, announcing a lottery with a twist instead of a cash prize, entrance can win the opportunity to be buried in one of Paris's most celebrated cemeteries.
The plan is an effort to restore tombs that have fallen into disrepair, while also giving residents of Paris a rare opportunity to secure one of the highly sought after plots.
Cemetery's within Paris have been almost full since the beginning of the 20th century.
It's a finite amount of space.
Yeah.
I just, every time French people want to think they're better than us, I'm just going to think of this story
now.
For now, winners of the lottery will be granted the opportunity to buy.
So it's not like you just get this.
You enter this lottery, and if they pick you, then you can buy and restore.
one of the 30 tombs in three different cemeteries.
City Hall agreeing to lease the corresponding burial plot to those who meet certain standards.
Lease?
That doesn't mean own.
That means what?
Somewhere down the road they can just exhumate you and kick you out and you're getting evicted.
This is a, this is ridiculous.
Yeah, I see problems here.
In recent decades, cemetery visitors throughout France have expressed an interest in restoring the funerary monuments in order to get a burial plot concession in return, according to City Hall.
But giving them a chance to do so has been complicated because of laws that determine where you can put a tomb, where it has to be, under... There's all kinds of things involved here.
But now, City Hall...
She says they think they found a solution.
10 plots up for grabs in the hairless cemetery, which includes Doris frontman Jim Morrison and playwright Oscar Wilde.
This is, I mean, so you're in a lottery to win.
If you win, you have to, you lease the space.
Each existing tomb is available to buy for about $4,600.
You also have to pay to restore it.
Well, that's okay.
So.
$4,600 actually, I'm a little surprised.
I thought it was gonna be way more expensive.
I thought what they were gonna do was sell you an entire package that would include the plot and the restoration.
Well, yes.
Okay.
If you want to, for the lease, the lease costs about $1,100 for a 10-year contract.
If you shell out $20,000, they won't kick you out.
I don't even like the doors this much.
Why would I enter this contest?
I mean, and Oscar Wilde would think this was hilarious.
He
actually would.
Jim Morrison would be appalled.
That wraps up today's episode of
This Shouldn't Be A
Thing
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