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Yes indeed stick around stick around for that That's coming up at the very end of the show We're gonna talk about the elections that were not in Wisconsin.
Are you?
It's great to cover, it's
Absolutely.
You're welcome.
Why don't you start off with this, though?
This is from Wisconsin Public Radio, Rich Kremmer with the byline GOP bill.
This is here in Wisconsin GOP bill to ban ballot drop boxes in Wisconsin spurs intra-party debate.
Backers say the plan is in line with those of Donald Trump, a GOP critic, a GOP critic, says it's not reality-based.
The legislation itself.
The legislation itself, yes.
During a hearing yesterday before the assembly committee on campaigns and elections, a relatively newly elected state representative, Lindy Brill, a Republican from Sheboygan Falls,
said that her measure might be one of the shortest bills of the session.
It has just one line this measure from Representative Brill, which says, quote, no municipality may employ a drop box, unquote, to collect absentee ballots.
Since 2020, drop boxes became a big flash point in the state after Trump and others claim without confirmed
evidence.
That's kind of an important little kind out there without confirmance that dot boxes are a source of widespread election fraud.
Yeah, I this is we talk about this every like month now once a month, this constant push from the GOP to vilify demonize and then make illegal any form of voting that isn't on the day.
in person with ID, fill it out, put it in the box.
That's the only way they want it.
Well, that's the only way, honestly, Donald Trump wants it because as we saw last year, we saw Brian Shimming, who is the head of the GOP of Wisconsin, push the narrative of bank your vote, vote early.
they did
because they were given a message and it's safe But at the same time as they were saying it Donald Trump's on the stump last year saying it's inaccurate.
It's a fraud.
It's fake.
It's election stealing I Do not understand how they keep kicking this dead horse and the fact that it's one line.
Yeah says everything
Yeah to put it on their state constitution Proposition 16 past 72 28, which means a lot of people regardless of Regardless of their party voted for this as we saw with the enshrining of voter ID
into the Wisconsin Constitution because people see that and say, well, yeah, totally.
But as you said, off air, and we've said before, measures like this are solutions in search of a problem.
Right.
We do not have evidence of massive widespread voter fraud, no matter who says it, whether it's Lindy Brill in the Wisconsin State House, or it's Caroline Levitt in the White House, or it's Mike Johnson in the Speaker's office.
There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud through this country.
These are measures that that are costing the taxpayers dollars because they have to print the words on the ballot.
Well, with the Democratic sweep last night, I know this whole election, you know, trying to make it harder for people to vote is going to become ramped up now by the Republicans, obviously.
And I just hope, though, with all this sweep of the Democrats, that this doesn't go to their head and they get cocky.
talking...
We still have a lot of work to do and Wisconsin still has not turned against Trump yet.
So we have got what, you know, our work cut out for us here yet.
So,
much.
And that's something that, yeah, we, I want to talk about more in the next half hour regarding last night's elections.
And we'll talk to Dan about this.
We'll talk to everybody about this.
We'll get sick of talking about elections, but it's really about.
The fact that for the past year, the story has been that Democrats lost the narrative, Democrats lost the election, Democrats lost the people.
And last night showed that when you run good candidates and you have a good message.
And then you also, you're running succinctly against authoritarianism that people throughout the country will respond to your message.
Now, what they do with that is up to them.
They cannot get complacent, but we'll talk about that more later.
I want to talk more
for about Lindy Brill, who is this representative who put forth this one line bill to get rid of drop boxes in Wisconsin, even though by the way, by the way, I don't know if you know this too, Jane, welcome to the segment we call Greg asks Jane, do you know, by the way, the Wisconsin state Supreme court has already ruled that drop boxes are legal.
They're legal.
They did in 2024.
And on top of that,
along with no evidence of widespread voter fraud in Wisconsin.
The problem is, is that representative Brill doesn't really know if she can trust that.
Calvin, we have a clip of an exchange between her and representative Lee Snodgrass on this topic from not only drop boxes, but where you get your facts.
Calvin, play that.
Could you tell me your source on the 2020 municipalities that claimed that there were no...
Fraud it's an associated press survey.
You
find it and I don't have my
then I don't know that I consider that a valid source
don't know I see everything from the associated press being absolutely valid But maybe where you and I find truth in different spots.
This might be where we're finding facts in different locations
to
you with a lot of sources after this.
I'm answering your question that you provided just now.
Great.
And then I would just like to say at the end of your, at the end of everything, I'd like to thank our president for being the charge on this.
He
introduced us in the first place and I'm thankful that I got to introduce him to Wisconsin alongside him.
And I'm thankful for the opportunity to get to talk about it, because this is true election reform that our state needs.
I think that says everything.
wants to be lieutenant governor or congressman one day, and she's gonna bow down to whomever is needed to be bowed down towards, and that's Donald Trump.
And yeah, we look for facts in different places.
That to me, honestly too, it's kind of a throwback.
It's a throwback from the early days of 2021 or 2017 where
Oh, I can't remember her name right now was saying alternative facts.
And then we just bought it hook, line and sinker really quick before we run to grab ourselves some snack and some water.
Tony on the live stream says something very important that it's still about MAGA looking out for billionaires and not working Americans.
Yay Dems one last night, but the government is still close and snap is still a problem people face today.
That's absolutely correct.
We can't
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Too much is at stake.
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Been talking about a new Republican bill that would ban absentee ballot drop boxes in Wisconsin brought forth by
relatively newly elected Representative Lindy Brill, it contains just one line, no municipality may employ a dropbox to collect absentee ballots.
Of course, the Wisconsin Supreme Court's former conservative majority ruled that they were illegal in 2022, in 2024, after a new justice was seated on the Wisconsin Supreme Court, they voted to reinstate dropboxes.
And
I found this interesting also, Representative Scott Krug, another Republican, said he has a reality-based problem.
Don't we all, sir?
Right, with the bill, and asked Representative Brill if she thinks the governor will sign it.
And she said no, but as a follower of Jesus Christ, she believes there's a chance that Evers could have a change of heart.
Krug not impressed said quote it's not going to change the Supreme Court's opinion on drop boxes It's not going to change the governor's opinion on drop boxes.
We still have a problem in our communities That's what I'm trying to get to is knowing politically where we are and dealing with realities unquote
Let's start with the, let's start with the blaring part about this entire conversation between the two of them.
Do you think the governor will pass this?
Her response?
No.
That means that this is a performative measure.
Yes.
The fact that it is one sentence makes it a performative measure.
The fact that she doesn't really care, I think about Dropbox is because, I'll say this.
She doesn't, she didn't say that I will make the assumption.
She doesn't really care about drop boxes because as we said earlier, it has been proven now through the last election that drop boxes are not only safe, but people of all types of voting use drop boxes.
Take this one off your plate.
Stop making this a
a source of pain for yourselves to have to put out there in the world of interviews, legislation, just be like, hey, let's move on to something else.
Dropboxes aren't the problem that we're trying to make it into.
They actually work for us.
How do we make them even better?
How do we include just, and I'm not even,
I don't even talk about all forms of early voting drop boxes.
Just take it off the plate.
You're making you're making it harder work smarter But instead you're doing this
Good morning, Jane, and have a good retirement.
You know when you're retired every day is Saturday.
it.
track of your days, you'll have to go look on the
Well, I sincerely want to thank Donald Trump.
He he went over and above what he did for us.
And I'm hoping he keeps up the good work for the midterms.
Oh, yeah.
of
What I find so interesting about this is the California redistricting only happened because of what Abbott did in Texas.
Correct, that's what, yeah.
This was a response to something that Republicans did.
Yeah.
They are the ones who started this and California was responding and California spoke up, right, Bob?
You bet they
And I heard one Republican strategist referred to it.
Last night is a bloodbath for Republicans.
about your messaging How to get to voters there's actually easier ways to get to voters than doing what they're doing Which is always trying to make voting and winning making voting harder and making winning the only possibility by changing districts adding seats Changing voting laws not changing their policies which are not popular and also is a really quick to the
Supreme Court is looking at the Civil, the Voting Rights Act, too.
That is also going to be a huge thing, too, in this entire landscape.
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Wanted to talk a little bit about the elections last night that for once we didn't have in Wisconsin.
Way to go us.
My
There was some breathing size of a relief.
There was some, there was great stuff coming out of the elections around the country.
People were voting for individuals.
I personally felt like I'm not going to speak for Jane Cal or civic media on the whole, but I felt like people who are running not only for the, the good of their state or their municipality, but also against the policies of Donald Trump, which
case, you can use that.
But I really think it was just a resounding message from the people of those various states and municipalities saying, we want, we either want something else or we want to keep it the way we have it.
Cause this is what works for us as far as like, like Pennsylvania Supreme court.
And I mean, it's, it'll be interesting to see New York city, but yeah, I mean, the, the,
The results came in last night and it was just resounding.
And according to exit polls, and this is an article from NPR, exit polls found that in all major contests, so these would be the governor's race in Virginia and New Jersey, the mayor's race in New York, and Proposition 50 in California, voters said the economy was the most important issue and they sided with Democrats overwhelmingly.
And we talked a little bit about this yesterday.
when we go back to the Biden presidency and the problems that we had with inflation and the problems with prices rising and the Democrats made a big mistake in not addressing that and not addressing that reality
There was something.
Okay.
So back in the day of Steve Jobs and Apple, there was something called the Steve Jobs reality distortion field where you could walk into a room and say, Oh, there's a computer for $2,500.
I don't need that computer for $2,500.
By the time he got done talking, he could make it where you say,
I need that computer for $2,500.
I feel like it's the same idea here.
They're trying to create a reality distortion field where they just keep telling you that grocery prices are
Gases fluctuate.
By the way, we were talking about gas being down with Mr. Global.
It's $3 where I live now.
Oh, is it back up?
It's $2.99 a gallon.
But it's this.
They think that by pushing the same talking points over and over again, going back to drop boxes, going back to anything coming out of Caroline Levitt's mouth, coming out of anything that comes out of Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House's mouth, it's just trying to create this distortion field in which people will be eventually hypnotized into thinking they're right.
The people out there who think they're right, there's no getting around them.
They are correct, Jane, you are wrong and you are a communist and then the feminist and the Marxist, you are in caravans, you are invading the country.
and I have no kids.
They think that this message is resonating with people, and it's not.
It's stuck with some, but it's only making them look more and more out of touch.
And I think last night's election showed that this
Have you seen the racism of these people?
You know, all the 9 11 videos.
Yes.
For God.
And what a load of garbage.
Yeah.
Twitter was Twitter was a sewer.
Hellscape last night with the worst versions of people out there and The from the funny tweets of like one person said a majority of New Yorkers rejected this like no they voted for it I'm looking at the numbers right now to posting pictures as you said Troy of 9-11 or horribly racist memes of Muslim people it just But there's a glimmer of silver lining hope in that is that
It did no good.
Yes, absolutely.
This is who this is who he and his people are.
Yeah.
And
You know, they can't, they can't turn their backs on it because they show themselves every time they get a chance to.
I
Twitter is an awful place now.
And it just, every single tweet I'm coming across is just these horrifically mean-spirited things.
Really quick, an example of what you can call a mandate or just an overwhelming, you know,
voice of the people in Virginia, Abigail Spanberger won the governor's race against a winsome Earl Sears.
And I just want to bring up a number really quick.
In 2021, Glenn Yonkin, who is the current governor, won by less than 2%, just less than 2% against Terry McAuliffe last night.
Abigail Spanberger and it's not all counted, but right now she has a 15 point lead.
That's
I think in a state like Virginia, who also elected an AG who is a Democrat, who came up against horrible controversy and lots of racism too.
15 points in the, in the, in that race says something from the people of Virginia.
That is.
a massive, massive message to, I think, the Trump administration, the messes they're trying so hard to push and what good it will do you instead of just, maybe, I don't know.
Opening back up the governor and government and give people snap and you know
Yeah, that's what it's called negotiating Oh, if you're just joining us and Matt near on air We're talking about the election results from across the country last night.
You can always join us check in on this at 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Jean from Eau Claire.
Good morning, Jean.
How you feeling this morning?
Wonderful
really good I gotta tell you I gotta tell you I'm not gonna tell you how I feel, you know about
You know, the future here, but I'm going to relish every moment that I get to hear your voice.
Okay there lady.
Oh, thanks, Jane.
Anyway, you know, this is a kick in the keyster for those people because they have been lies, lies, lies and fraud and abuse.
I mean, people are waking up.
You know what?
They can spend all the money they want, but we're Americans.
And the state of Wisconsin said, we're not for sale.
Well, the United States of America is not for sale.
And we got the biggest fraudulent salesperson up there in the head and people aren't buying their lives anymore.
Fact is a fact and a lie is a lie.
So honey on the board or in the assembly.
Keep your lives to
cause we ain't buying and I'm sorry to say that, but that's my personal opinion.
And you guys keep up the great work.
We love you.
Thanks
The power was taken away from him by a state like Wisconsin, by a candidate who just was running on their values for what they thought could come to the courts.
And I think as far as how this has to do with Wisconsin, cause all elections run through Wisconsin now, cause we are who we are.
But I think that what happened in Wisconsin in spring set.
the pace for where the message was going to go.
There was a couple of elections in Colorado that had to do with funding lunches at schools and feeding children.
And a report that I read, and unfortunately I can't remember where I saw it, but pointed out that one billionaire in Colorado is the one who is funding fights against these measures.
And that made me think of our discussion with Chuck Collins yesterday from Patriotic Millionaires, who said, one of the big dangers of having billionaires essentially buying our elections, it's not the legislation that they want to see enacted, it's about the legislation they can stop.
Which that's good for other people.
volumes to the fact, whether you're talking about Wisconsin in the spring or this measure, both of these were non-sexy big time elections.
A Supreme Court race and a ballot measure speaks to what happens when the people pay attention.
Listen up, make their voices heard.
It's about paying attention, keeping your eye on the ball.
Pay attention to everything, but things like this.
This is how we tell the billionaires and the ruling class.
No, we're not
Nice try though, but we're not buying it.
We don't have a lot of time, Jack.
We're going to take you on the other side if you can hang on for a little bit.
And if you would like to join us, you can call or text in as well at 855-752-4842.
Should we play that little clip from Carolyn Lipslevitt?
Let's do it.
Talking about facts.
Calvin, play that clip, please, from the White House press secretary.
the president posted on true social left of voting underway in california is quote rigged what evidence does he have that and what does it mean that mail-in ballots in that state are under legal and criminal review by whom and why and also in this vein does the white house still plan to issue an executive order banning mail-in voting and what legal authority do you have to do that
the white house is working on an executive order to strengthen our elections in this country and to assure that there cannot be blatant fraud
as we've seen in California
mail-in voting system.
It's absolutely true that there's fraud in California's elections.
It's just a fact.
It is just a fact.
They have a universal mail-in voting system, which we know is ripe for fraud.
And if you want to deny that, I'm happy to provide you all of the evidence for it.
I'd be glad to send that to you after this briefing.
Front page news.
One wonders.
We will continue this on the other side.
Again, Jack, hang on.
We'll get to you right off the top here.
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Jack from Merrimack, thank you for your patience, Jack.
What did you want to say about this?
Well first congratulations on your retirement.
Jack Many many people told me when I retired and it's been a decade.
You know, you know, what are you going to do?
Well, let me tell you I am so busy you would not believe any I get music gigs and visiting relatives all over the country Yeah
This is, you know, it's a great time.
It's time to do everything that you ever thought you really wanted to do, but you just never quite had the
Exactly.
Exactly.
I'm looking forward to it.
I am going to miss everyone here like mad.
I really am.
But as I've said before, they're not getting rid of me completely yet.
I'll be showing up here and there, whether they like it or not.
Oh, look, Jane's back.
Didn't we do it?
Didn't we kill her keycard?
Someone kill her keycard.
Anyway, Jack, what did you want to say about last night's elections?
Well, yeah, first of all, I don't like the term drop boxes.
It's convenient shorthand, I admit that.
But a more accurate term is authorized ballot collection stations.
That's what they really are.
And I really wish the media would stop calling them.
drop boxes.
It's really kind of a pejorative and at least it's become that.
But finally, in the 1980s, I'm an old fart.
And in the 1980s, I recall reading that if the entire Republican agenda were enacted, voters would remember the damage that it caused.
Republicans wouldn't have control of our nation for at least a generation.
Well, that agenda wasn't completely enacted.
So Republicans and Democrats have kept changing control for the last 40 years.
Project 2025 is
of the
in this country, and that's the thing I'd be concerned about.
And the first thing I would say is this, beware of your voter registration.
Go to myvote.wi.gov and check your registration.
190,000 people were purged from Wisconsin's voter rolls within the last few months, just because they hadn't voted, essentially hadn't voted since Biden got elected.
and there there was no there's no you know this is routine maintenance there's no proof that any one of those voters uh was was ineligible but they're going from the roll
so check your registration make sure you're you're up to date but i'm still concerned about what's going to happen at the federal level we've already got troops in the streets we've got ice it's that's shot
American citizens and haul them off to foreign countries.
I mean, this is this is an authoritarian regime.
Be aware of November 2026 and 2028.
That's that's what I'm going to say.
Make sure you're registered.
And unless somebody's pointing a gun at you, get out there and hold.
Thank you.
And you're right.
I think this is going to encourage more redistricting.
in Republican states because this is not a good indicator for the midterm elections.
And so they're gonna have to do something to try and stop this from happening again.
And I just think that they're gonna try and rig the maps even more.
What does that say about that party?
They're not willing to admit defeat.
They're not willing to take in stock of what they should do to help the people they serve.
Instead, they just want to rally the troops and create these, these terms where they can't leave because you can't vote them out and you can't vote them out because they've taken away certain aspects of your ability to access the ballot.
And that is one of the big things.
And I'm glad that Jack said it out loud, my vote.wi.gov.
We harp on that all the time and talk about it all the time.
And whether it's acts of nefarious natures or whether it's just simple voter role, uh, upkeep maintenance.
As Deb Cronimiller from League of Women Voter of Wisconsin has said, whether it's for good or for bad, check out your registration, make sure you're registered, make sure you know who represents you, talk to them, tell them what you expect out of your leaders, but myvote.wi.gov.
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