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This just broke.
on Twitter talking about last night's election results.
Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House said this about 30 minutes ago about the elections last night, quote, I don't think the loss last night was any reflection about Republicans at all.
I think people are frustrated and angry as we are.
I am the president is and we express that in different ways.
Darren, can you hear us?
Thumbs up.
All right, we're going to have him call in.
But yeah, he's going to be joining us to talk about all things going on in the farming world and specifically about things like China.
We're going to be talking about China.
We're going to be talking about the shutdown, but-
This is from the National Sustainable Agriculture Coalition, how the government shutdown is impacting farmers when the federal government starts a new fiscal year.
Because of this government shutdown, some federal services remain operational, others go dark, and the longer the shutdown lasts, the more severe the disruptions become.
We are in day 36 now of the government shutdown, the longest shutdown in history.
I
Under Donald Trump.
Under Donald Trump.
We're still working on getting Darren Von Rudin on the show to get us to call, but we will be talking to him about that, about the fact that this is not going to be very good for, this has not been very good for the farmers, which are already having a hard time as it is, as far as the farm bill goes, as far as the fact that we now have a bailout on the way.
But right now we do, we are joined by Darren Von Rudin.
Darren, thank you so much for calling in.
Appreciate you.
Yep.
Thanks.
Great.
Good to see you, Jan.
Or Jane, I mean, sorry.
basis.
Oh, did I call him?
I don't care, Darren.
It doesn't matter.
No, let's talk about the government shutdown, which is, again, in day 36 now, and what this is doing, particularly to farmers, because you're the head of the Wisconsin Farmers Union.
You hear from folks just like you.
What are you hearing?
Yeah, well, it's been a lot of frustration, you know, number one looking at the time of year.
It's happening.
It's harvest season farmers that have FSA loans or need insurance dollars to cover issues, crop losses, things like that.
The FSA office to reclose.
So even though a farmer had to check in their hands, couldn't take it to their banker because the
FSA office had to sign off on it to be able for that farmer to be able to cash that check or use that check.
That has changed in the last week, 10 days here.
Now they did open up offices to be able to get that process done.
So that's helped farmers, but certainly there was three weeks there that farmers were really uncertain if they were going to be able to harvest their crop number one, but take care of their
Finances that they need to on a monthly basis.
And, you know, the other big issue that we're hearing too is looking at the healthcare issues.
You know, what's going on there with rural community hospitals, telehealth is something that a lot of farmers like to use.
And it means not having to spend that hour on the road to an appointment the hour back home.
If that can happen, that's great.
you know, and that's beyond farmers too.
There's a lot of senior citizens that would like to be able to use that, that no longer can use it.
Certainly, you know, the real big issue right now is the tariffs and how those are affecting folks.
And with the shutdown, that information isn't always available neither.
So what does tomorrow's markets look like versus next week's market?
And, you know, a real frustration out there of just
not being able to get information when we need it.
I can't even imagine how difficult it is but you know farmers are a business like so many other businesses you can't plan you cannot plan ahead with the situations that we have right now and with the tariffs going up and down and there's deals and there's no deals and I don't need I can't even imagine how frustrating it is and
I would also imagine, Darren, that some of the frustration is kind of spread evenly across the board for Democrats and Republicans.
Yeah, we're certainly starting to hear some more of that now, especially since the...
the introduction of the Argentinian beef shop and the president saying that he's going to quadruple that.
I've heard more beef farmers speak up in the last three weeks and I've heard in the nine months that he's been in office and really frustrated that the market did what it did when there's an introduction like that itself.
I was out in Montana this past weekend for their state convention and talked to one gentleman that they had a hundred
beef cows or beef cattle that were going for auction and that five to 12 there was a certain price and a quarter after 12 when his cattle went down the road he lost a hundred dollars ahead on those you know and so it on a hundred had this you know it's the big chunk of change that just disappeared and you know that that that shouldn't be something that is done by the president of the United States so
We've got to figure out how we can get some more normality and really put the marketplace in a market driven situation versus the whims of the president of the country.
Yeah, and especially in a situation like this, you know, the beef herd has been dropping because of weather related issues.
Yes.
For the most part.
It isn't like farmers are overselling, but when you have fires and droughts,
that of course farmers to sell their animals earlier and they want to mainly on the drought situation or for instance the the blizzard of 2018 or 19 I think it was in South Dakota that there was thousands of tens of thousands of animals that perished in that blizzard because
It came up faster than what they thought so farmers weren't able to get the animals in and they just perished and you know in the last couple years we've had fires in the Texas Panhandle in Oklahoma that have had cattle that deceased in that too.
So that heard, it's going to take a while to build that heard back up.
Animals, beef animals only reproduce one if you're lucky two animals every nine months And it's actually only every year because you gotta have a two to three months period of rest in there before Try to breed them again to get you know that next offspring off so you know chickens and poultry And swine they can reproduce at a lot faster rate than what the beef industry can and
The biggest fear that farmers are fearing right now is what if the administration allows live animals to come in the country from another country that has foot and mouth diseases or things else that we're trying to keep out of this country.
We need to make sure that we can keep our herd safe, but also the customers too because most of those diseases you don't want in this country and we've been able to keep it out.
If you're just joining us on matinee on air, we are talking to Darren Von Ruden, who is the president of the farmers union here in Wisconsin.
And he joins us every the first month, the first Wednesday of every month to talk about everything going on, the big news stories coming out of the farming world and something we spoke to Hans Brighton Moser last week about this because he is a beef producer.
And on, you know, I think of what Donald Trump said about buying beef from Argentina and then
the AG secretary saying we want to expand the abilities for people to become ranchers and beef producers if they'd like, which I don't know, Darren, you work, you live in this world.
I've never heard anyone wake up in the middle of the night and say, I want to, I'm going to be a rancher.
I'm going to be a rancher today.
I think it's about looking at the beef producers we have here in America and
Making sure they have exactly what you guys always tell us you want, which are markets.
You want markets to put your products up for purchase to make money to continue doing the thing that you've been doing for one, three, seven generations.
But it seems like every time they come with a solution, it seems to miss the mark.
Absolutely.
And it's like they're not listening to you at all.
Yeah, you know, and that
Getting into anything in agriculture right now, there certainly is a small percentage of people that wake up and say, I want to be, you know, a corn farmer.
I want to be a dairy farmer.
I want to be a base farmer.
But the reality sets in and when you need a couple million dollars to get started in it, it's a totally different aspect at that point.
And, you know, there's certainly farmers out there that are retirement age that want to help.
If the next generation is there on the farm, keeping the family, but want to keep the production agriculture as a part of the farm that they worked so many years to keep in business and keep going.
How do we do that?
There's enough people in this country that want to do that.
We shouldn't be looking to residents from another country to do that.
Especially in the light of some of the immigration enforcement that's out there.
It seems like there's some handpicking that we should allow only certain countries to have their residents move to the U.S.
to help with whatever industry it is that they want.
7,500 South Africans?
That's one number that I saw that, yeah, we're going to welcome in 7,500 South Africans, but nobody else.
And the whole thing about the fires and the floods and the blizzard and all of that, I would also think that farmers first and foremost understand that climate change is a thing.
Yeah, yeah, especially because we deal with it on a regular basis.
You know, on our farm since 2006, we've had four major floods, probably 500 year floods, not 100 year floods.
They were 500 year floods because of the damage that they did.
And, you know, looking at how do we correct that problem?
We need to make sure that we're doing what we can as farmers.
And there's certainly a lot of farmers that.
want to do that, and we're seeing a lot of that with the cover crops that are being planted right now, trying to do different practices that are better for agriculture and the environments.
You know, the big issue, right, all that we're facing is really the concentration that's happening in agriculture, because when you start creating
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We are talking with our guest, the president of the Wisconsin Farmers Union, Darren Von Ruden is here.
Darren, I wanted to talk a little bit about China.
and soybeans and President Trump did meet with Xi Jinping and said, we have a deal.
Do we have a deal?
What do you know about the deal?
The bigger question is the volume quantity that is out there.
They've promised to purchase 12.5.
million metric tons between or in November and December here now which is good that they're buying that but in 2022 or 2023 they purchased just about 27 million metric tons so that volume is a third of what it is.
It sounds like going forward for the next three years they're going to be purchasing
25 million metric tons, but that's still well short of that 27.5 million metric tons.
And looking at that process to, you know, population in China continues to grow.
So they, there should be a bigger market for American soybeans.
But in reality, we're going to have less of that market because of that volume that has been agreed upon.
No, I think that would just
And also seems like the fact that they're buying this amount is because the president actually met with the president of China too.
For a while, there was no problem with China buying nothing from us with regard to soybeans.
And now they've brokered this, quote unquote, deal.
When really what they should have been doing was over the past how many years pushing to expand the markets of our soybeans and try to capture some of those markets we lost in his first term right because of the The loss of that marketplace Argentina started was it was Argentina who started said or Brazil started selling
so started
selling soybeans to China because we couldn't provide them because China wasn't buying them from us and we never got those markets fully back again So it feels like he's doing this as a way of saying
All right, we've got you covered when they should have had them covered for years.
There should never have been a problem.
There should never have been a zero soybean market in America for that country.
And that, I don't know, not too little too late, but certainly not enough.
Well, and I think there's more and more farmers are saying a little bit too late on this too because
We know that we've lost that market.
The trend is actually building ports in South America and making sure that they have a good, solid provider of the soybeans, corn, so different things that they need because they just don't see the U.S.
as a good market anymore or a good partner in the process of making sure that we got an adequate supply for their own people's needs.
Is that
Our trade partners now are leery of dealing with us because we have such a capricious person in the Oval Office who can change his mind from one day to the next.
So I can understand why other countries are like, yeah, I don't know if I really want to deal with those guys.
They don't seem to be very consistent.
Yeah, yeah, you know, and we're hearing that from different trade delegations that have been traveling and doing what they normally do on a yearly basis.
around the world that the partners aren't as willing to have some of the discussions that they used to have.
Now, if you've got a really strong relationship and the tariffs are small enough, those partners are probably going to continue working together.
But certainly all it takes is for one thing coming out of the White House to save something against a particular country or company.
And that can change those markets in seconds for the industries that we so love here in the United States.
And right now we're hosting a Polish delegation here at our state office headquarters in Chippewa Falls.
And that's one of the big questions is how reliable is your
business partners going to be dealing with everything in the country, not just agriculture, but all the other products that they might want to buy from us.
They just don't know that they can trust us as a business partner anymore.
All things being equal and going towards the direction of democracy, if the next president
is anyone but Donald Trump or part of that movement, the amount of work they are going to have to do to repair these relationships over the course of their first term.
I mean, we saw Barack Obama had to go around the world to like reinvigorate people's enthusiasm about America.
Whomever that person is for 2028, they're going to be spending the next four years trying to fix everything and say, we are worthy of your trust and your business.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, and that's that's the big thing is trust and if you don't have trust within a relationship partnerships Things go backwards and hurry and we're seeing you know, we haven't seen all of the worst of it yet I think we're still going to be seeing a lot more because we have some of our Best allies are really starting to question the American integrity at this point.
Yeah
we have you on.
Really, really appreciate it.
It's always very insightful.
Darren Van Ruden, again, our guest this morning.
News is coming up next, and then when we return a little audio sorbet,
and the invention of the flux capacitor.
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Today it is the Clone Zone Edition.
I'm not happy.
I know you're not.
be.
It should really not be a thing.
Really shouldn't be.
So we'll we'll have that coming up in just a little bit.
Right now, though, this is the portion of the show that we call Audio Sorbet, where we take a breath, get away from the news, talk about sillier things.
I was surfing around last night trying to find something to watch and what came up.
But the classic.
Yeah.
Back to the future.
Saw that the theaters.
I did too.
I saw it three times.
Wow, really?
Yeah.
And I did not realize until I watched the movie last night that the flux capacitor invented by Dr. Emmett Brown was invented on this date in 1955.
That's amazing.
Isn't it, though?
That's 70 years.
It's a long time.
We have a clip from that classic movie.
Back to the future.
Calvin, can you play that clip, please?
It's
And to kind of tail piggyback along with this.
This is really pretty cool and we'll include this in the show notes so you can look at it, but Drew Struzan Yeah, painted the iconic posters for back to the future and Indiana Jones He just passed away recently at the age of 78 he painted these and not just those movies, right?
He did a whole bunch of them back to the few all the back to the future movies.
He did Blade Runner goonies
Indiana Jones, Hook with Robin Williams, Harry Potter, hand-painted these posters.
And when you look at them, they are really, really beautiful.
But I guess the assumption was just that these were all computer-generated.
Which I don't even, I mean, forgive me for not knowing this, but I couldn't imagine that in the 70s and 80s, at least, they had the... That kind of technology.
So yeah, these were, I mean, I'm looking at...
His film art gallery dot com page where you can find some of these posters and these are originals and they are Expensive right see yeah, there's one here for thirty six hundred dollars for a revenge of the Jedi Which you might be saying yourself isn't it return to the Jedi Greg and that's where I'll say obviously you don't know the lore of the third film.
Thank you But you you scroll through this and if you know these movies you remember these posters being up at the movie theater and these these are
like frameable quality paintings.
They're beautiful.
They're gorgeous.
And not all of them are hits.
was another one.
The posters are fantastic.
Oh, the Muppet movie one.
Oh, that one's great.
But yeah, it brings back all these memories and I saw it back to the future three times.
And I don't know how to ask the questions per se, but like, when you see these posters, what do they invoke in you?
What do they bring up for you?
Going to the movies, paying your
$3 $5 my God
Yeah, yeah, and some of these I mean you look at these posters They also tell portions of the story looking at the Goonies poster you look at you look at
All the Star Wars posters, they all have their own stories to tell within them.
And he was absolutely beloved in this industry.
And there's a picture of him.
I'll include this in the show notes, but there's a picture from the Wall Street Journal article of Drew Streuths and dressed as Indiana Jones in his studio, which...
is part of the process.
He painted off that from what I- So he posed as Indiana
Amazing.
And yeah, I mean, the Shawshank Redemption poster alone is gorgeous.
But yeah, whenever, that's one of those movies, and I don't know about you, Jane, but one of those movies where back to the future when it's on, I kind of will turn it on at any point.
Like if it's the last 10 minutes, I will watch the last 10 minutes.
Absolutely.
So
times and it comes passed on the stream and you watch it because it's there.
It's that movie.
It's that movie.
What is your go-to movie that doesn't matter?
You've seen it 10 times, 20 times.
If it's on, I'm going to watch it 855-752-4842, 855-75 Civic talking about movies on today's Audio Sorbet.
November 5th, 1955 was the invention of the flux capacitor, which made it possible for time travel according to Back to the Future.
And I got sucked into watching the whole thing last night.
And
fluxing.
I just love that line,
Okay.
They came out like one or two years ago.
Right.
Very sweet.
Is it?
It is very sweet.
It doesn't try to be the first movie.
It, it tells the continuing story of Ralphie and.
what he's doing with his life, I think in the seventies, like it takes place like as an adult, married, which I went in with a lot of like, but I really enjoyed it.
And I think part of the reason why I enjoy it is because it's on TV and it's
low stakes in that.
So I'm not going to a movie theater and paying 15 bucks and be like, oh
And you feel like you got ripped off.
Really, really enjoyed it.
What movie can you watch over and over again, no matter how many times you've seen it, 855-752-4842.
Greg from Richland Center, listening on WLCX and LaCrosse as Princess Bride.
Yes.
Oh, one of the most quotable movies on earth.
Of all time.
On...
Earth.
I probably use, I do not think that word means what you think it means
Jim from Appleton listening on WISS says, my can't turn off movie is the fifth element.
That is, that's what, that's one of those movies.
And one of the posters that Drew Strews and Design was Big Trouble in Little China.
And that movie originally bombed pretty hard.
It did.
But over the past decades, it has grown to be beloved by people.
Cosplay convention the whole thing.
Yeah, that is the fifth element.
It's a movie that my I've seen it once I enjoyed it But my friends worship at the altar of that film.
It's about two filmmakers.
Yeah.
That's the guy that I'm thinking of.
Yes, exactly the guy you're thinking of.
And it's like a documentary about a guy making a movie.
Right, right.
And they are, well, I believe Mike has passed away, but Mark is still around.
And
Can I tell you this take a little side trip here?
This is how well, I mean, I knew I loved my wife I still do to this very moment I do but one we were in
We were out of town on a trip and we had kind of had enough of the day.
We were tired and she says Do you just want to go back to the hotel and watch Monty Python the holy grail?
Wick.
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We were having our audio sorbet discussion about movies you can watch.
over and over, even though you've seen them a billion times.
And we wanted to share just a couple of ones that came in late on the text line.
Kurt in Eau Claire, Christmas Carol with George C. Scott and Lilo and Stitch.
There you go.
Stephen in Waukesha on WAUK Field of Dreams.
Oh boy.
I cry every time when the dad says to his son, you want to go have a catch.
Okay.
All right, thank you for that.
Coming up tomorrow, it's Thursday already.
I know Jim Santel will be here our friend colleague host of amicus a law review 9 to 11 on Saturdays across the network to talk all things legal Jim Santel joining us tomorrow at 9 30 Paul Newton will be here for audio Sorbet the Acme packing company sports guru so we can talk all things sports bucks had a loss last night Packers of course lost last Sunday.
It'll be a better weekend ahead
Better days ahead.
But at least the Brewers aren't playing in my rights.
That's true.
It is just about 10.55 Kelvin.
That means it is time for...
He revealed yesterday his dog, Junie, is a clone of another dog he owned with his ex-wife, Giselle Bunchin, which died in late 2023.
He apparently is an investor in colossal biosciences.
That doesn't sound like they're going to try to take over the world.
back in 1996 so Tom Brady who is an invest investor again in this colossal biosciences Said he'd worked with the company a few years ago the cloning process required a simple blood draw from the family's aging pit bull mix Lua before she died in a few short months Brady says Colossal gave my family a second chance with a clone of our beloved dog
So we go to the, there's a farmer's market in Kenosha and there is a great group that does rescuing and they almost always
have pit mixes with them.
It's almost always pit mixes.
And I am telling you right, uh, MastroMuts, I want to get the name MastroMuts there at the, there at the, right now they're inside for the winter for the farmer's marketing Kenosha, but you can go there.
You can, you can donate there.
You can adopt there.
You can also just go and literally hold and pet puppies.
They just want people to come in.
They want the dogs to fill them up.
Exactly.
So I don't understand the point of this.
yeah column it just doesn't seem like you're it's not that it just not understand I do not understand why people would do something like that and and honestly like if you want to do it and you have the money I guess but then also I hope you're donating to places that need the money or maybe
buy someone a dog who wants one, but it's this just this.
It's unnecessary and we don't need it and Tom Brady, you could spend your money better and come on, man,
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