SNAP May Be Gone, But Check Out The Bathroom! (Hour 1)

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There's lots happening.

There is lots going on.

Governor Evers,

Signing a number of things.

We were talking about this with Pat when I did my little hit with Pat on up north mornings with Pat Kratlow and Yeah cell phones in schools

Goodbye.

Goodbye, which I think is a good thing That and much much more coming up with shawley pitman after the 9 30 news if you heard our weekend tease Announcing a special announcement the announcement of any special announcement

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Oh six So stick around for that for audio sorbet today We're relate to take a breath and get away from the news and talk about lighter things Tony Shalub, of course is a Green Bay native.

Yes famous actor

many many shows

many

shows wings

Oh, he was on wings.

Yes, he

was.

That was my first introduction to Mr. Shalub.

I forgot about that.

I would call him Mr. Shalub if I met him.

There's something about it.

There's an error.

Yes.

I'd call him Mr. Shalu.

Of being proper.

Exactly.

Very,

very proper about him.

But Marvelous Ms.

Maisel

and

many other

shows.

Don't forget Galaxy Quest.

Ah, yes.

That is one of my favorite appearances from Tony Shalu.

Something called the greatest Star Trek movie ever.

If you've never seen Galaxy Quest, and this is an old movie

now,

I would highly encourage you to check it out.

It's fantastic.

So Tony Shalube has a new series on CNN called Breaking Bread with Tony Shalube.

And he spent a weekend in Green Bay with Leroy Butler, which is pretty cool.

He's been in Green Bay Packers.

But that got us talking about if he would come back.

Yes, for season two.

For season two, where should Tony Shalube go next in Wisconsin?

And what should he eat?

Yes, we want your suggestions from around where you live.

Tell us about the great restaurants, the great, even just attractions.

It doesn't even have to be food.

It can be food, food related.

Just take, come have a good meal at this place.

We want to know.

So where should Tony Shalhoub visit next?

That will be our audio sorbet.

And we will wrap it up as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it's the hot stuff edition.

That's right.

Stick around.

Going to start off with this, of course.

This is still.

It should be number one in the news.

This is day 34 of the government shutdown.

This is from NBC News.

Trump administration facing Monday deadline to respond to judges snap.

order.

A federal judge over the weekend gave the administration until noon today to share how it will comply with the order to fully or partially fund SNAP as this government shutdown continues.

This as tens of millions of Americans are going without their November SNAP benefits across the country.

This is turning into long lines at food banks, which have already been struggling.

Yeah, this weekend in Texas and California, stadium parking lots.

were converted into mass distribution sites so people could pick up staples.

Yeah, it's we've been talking about this for quite a while now and we've known it was on the horizon and there is and we've seen a lot of judges come down and either block or revoke or you know

Put the brakes, put the brakes on certain policies of the Trump administration and the not releasing the contingency funds is one where I feel like the Trump administration is going to say, make us

because they

have less than two hours now to present a plan.

Yeah.

And they're really good at planning.

Oh, and they're really good at not listening to the law.

I mean, yeah, I mean,

I don't know, like law and order.

That's all

about law and order.

And judges say do things like, nah, it's fine.

On Friday, US District Judge John McConnell of Rhode Island ordered the Trump administration to make a full SNAP payment by the end of today or a partial payment by Wednesday.

In order to make the full SNAP payment, the administration would have to draw on additional funding sources.

beyond contingency reserves.

But again, there are reserves for this.

It was on the USDA website up until last week when they pulled it.

Because again, if it's not there, then it didn't happen.

Well, and if it's not there, then they don't have to explain it, which allows them to push the narrative that this is somehow the Democrats fault, even though they're not in power right now.

They don't have the Senate, the House, the presidency, and you know,

Ostensibly the Supreme Court like they have all of the power but yet in any you ask about anything having to do with the people anything having to do with snap or People being paid for their job for their federal jobs.

It's Chuck Schumer's problem.

It's

right

It's it's all his fault and I see a lot of people both on in media right here in Wisconsin and people just on social media say well Why can't Chuck Chuck Schumer do something?

Why doesn't Mike Johnson do anything?

Yeah, Mike Johnson could bring the house back today.

Oh, yeah,

he could.

Yeah, I think this is week seven.

I

think the house has worked 12 days out of the last 60.

Something, it's pretty shocking.

Well, no, we should keep talking because that's the problem.

I keep on thinking about this all the time, Jane.

We forget about all these little moments, these little things that are influencing the decisions of our quote leaders.

They were sent home because they didn't want to vote on the Epstein file.

And that's still the case.

That's

still the case.

There is a congresswoman from Arizona who won an election who has not been sworn in because her vote would force the release of the Epstein.

files.

Then on top of that, he's not going to bring them back because then they can't get work done to try to put together a government opening program.

And by the way, don't believe clean CR.

That is a lie.

And then finally, it's all about the fact that they don't like the fact that their policies are really unpopular with the American people because people want the Epstein file release and they're not keen on billionaires getting our tax dollars.

So this isn't about a shutdown.

completely.

This is about all their policies being covered by the fact they don't want to come back to work and really answer to anything.

Oh, seriously, because unfortunately there are not unfortunately, I'm sorry.

Unfortunately for Mike Johnson and Donald Trump and John Thune, there are Republicans in both houses who want the Epstein file released and they don't like that either.

Thomas Massey came out again over the weekend and we'll probably get into that more a little bit more tomorrow.

Yeah.

Thomas Massey is a Republican.

Yes, he is.

And he's been very vocal about calling for the release of the Epstein files, no matter who's on it.

Yep.

And that's kind of where I am too.

Oh, like release it.

I don't care who's on it.

They should all go

down.

Absolutely.

We've talked about this at length.

If it's a celebrity that I think is amazing and they're on it, I don't care.

I'm not going to sit there and defend and go, oh, don't.

I can't.

No.

And also just for the record, Thomas Massie voted against the budget too.

I think that's important.

The fact he's even still in office is beyond me.

Which is pretty remarkable.

Exactly.

But speaking of Jeffrey Epstein and that whole mess, of course, we didn't get a chance to talk about this last week, but the man formerly known as Prince Andrew.

is no longer a prince.

They

have stripped him of his titles.

Wait,

what?

King Charles stripped Andrew of his royal titles because of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.

When he was on Air Force One over the weekend coming back from golfing because that's what Donald Trump did over the weekend after his big great Gatsby party on Friday night, which is beyond ironic.

He was asked about Prince Andrew and Donald Trump's response was, I feel really badly for his family.

Not the girls who were victimized.

The

victims rarely come up when you ask Donald

Trump about

Epstein.

It's, he feels really bad for Andrew's family.

Cause life's like when Jelaine Maxwell got sentenced to prison, he wished her well.

Yes.

Also,

And that is a fantastic point that, you know, I think also needs to be screened from the mountaintops that this is about the justice for the survivors, the victims, the family.

This is about their getting closure and getting some sort of recognition that there was wrongdoing and the highest

Highest powers in this country are doing everything they can to keep it from happening and that is despicable and also just on the other side of the coin here I'd heard about the story I was playing up the sarcasm and the the dramatics of it all because it seems like even though King Charles is not a government figure This is not an elective figure, but things can be done to those who do take part.

Yes, it's

amazing There can be consequences.

Whoa,

what a shock and when the king of England

Whose family is probably you know that that lineage is is worth thousands of years of crimes and horrific actions and Terrible things done to people all over the world when the king of England can stand up and say my brother Will no longer have his title his money any he is up He is essentially in my commoner.

Who is he?

Well, Charles is gonna bankroll him.

Oh, well, then

it's not like it's not like Andrew has to go get a job

at your local stop and shop.

It is local

Greg's.

That's a British reference.

And yeah, but it shows that authority can take authority and can-

And hold it accountable.

Dole out consequences.

And hold it accountable.

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Ollie from the Northwoods is on the line.

Good morning, Ollie.

Thanks for joining us.

I don't really want to talk about the abstinence thing, although I think it's horrific and I'm glad that Edward is losing all his titles.

I think that's certainly befitting.

But I'm really upset and I wish that the people would think more about how our president, who is denying people food,

and kids food throws this horrendous party right in the middle of it.

Yeah, it's called being tone deaf, Ollie.

Yeah.

Thank you, Ollie.

Appreciate you

chickening.

It's absolutely though on brand.

I mean, he destroys the East Wing of the White House while this is happening.

He redos the bathroom while this whole thing.

That

was another thing that came out over

the

weekend.

Can I just say something that is an ugly bathroom?

What a shock.

It looks.

tacky.

Yeah.

I'm sorry, Jay.

Can you speak up?

I can't hear you over the design of this bathroom.

Oh, I'm sorry.

It's tacky.

Oh, thank

you.

Did you hear that?

Yeah.

It's yeah.

He read the Lincoln bathroom in the White House.

It's all marble now.

I'm sure you and I

And the rest of the American taxpayers will be able to go in there and use that bathroom because we paid for it.

I don't know if you saw Caroline Levitt's tweet about it too.

He goes, I was horrified to find out that that's what this bathroom used to look like.

We need better things for our president and the White House.

I'm like, really?

He needs you to defend a bathroom renovation.

Apparently he does.

Thanks,

Caroline.

Caroline, whatever your name is.

It's just absolutely nothing.

He can do no wrong.

Everything he does is justified and important, Jane.

The bathroom need to be changed.

It's the most important bathroom ever.

Yes, indeed.

Many people have been saying of all the bathrooms I've ever been in, this is the most bathroom.

This is the most bathroom ever.

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So that's all coming up with shawly stick around for that.

Right before the break, we were talking about the completely tone deaf grade Gadsby Halloween party Trump had on Friday.

And then the unveiling of the bathroom remodel job they did at the White House, the Lincoln bedroom now is all marble.

I know I've been waiting for that.

I thought this

was going to happen somewhere on Bush 2.

Never got done.

No.

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Good morning, Ron.

What do you want to say about this?

Hi.

bathroom either Trump or one of his minions said that this bathroom the marble bathroom would be more reflective of Abraham Lincoln and you know then what they had before that and not at all

thinking back and realizing that Abe Lincoln grew up in a log cabin.

If he was lucky,

he had an

outhouse.

Oh, yeah.

So he doesn't need, it doesn't need marble.

Right.

He just needs something that works, you know.

Yeah.

And also.

I appreciate that, Ron.

Thank you.

Yeah, that's what it was.

If you wanted Lincoln to be comfortable in that bathroom, it should be wood.

Right?

I mean.

The the White House got plumbing in the 1830s I believe so I feel like if anything Abraham Lincoln would look at that room and go is there a toilet yes great Good, and then he's gonna go move on and

do something much more

important things to do.

I've read things about

Abraham Lincoln, I've read a couple books about him.

Nowhere in there did they say one of his hobbies was bathroom and or renovation enthusiast.

So he was not sitting going, ah, this marble is of great quality.

No, he'd be like, hey, my country's being ripped apart by a war.

I have other things to do.

Does the toilet flush?

No, I don't even care if it doesn't.

I was raised in a log cabin.

No,

just ask the president about shower

inserts who go on all day.

The water pressure in here is.

Let's not even go down there, Trump, the water pressure thing.

We are going to include this in our show notes.

If you did not watch the 60 Minutes interview last night with Nora O'Donnell and Donald Trump, I highly encourage you to read the transcript.

We're going to include the transcript in the show notes rather than watch it.

I really encourage you to read it.

because that gives you some idea of just how all over the board this man is.

I mean seriously.

And also, too, another article we're going to put in there that we didn't get a chance to talk to a little bit ago.

If you are currently being affected by lack of funds for Snap, Wisconsin Watch put out a great article, and it is in the show notes.

It says right there, it says, if you need assistance because of Snap, click here.

It will tell you where you can go, what you can do to try to help yourself out.

As you pointed out, Jane, all over the weekend, we've seen food drives, food pantries.

these huge outpourings of love and assistance from those who can help.

And that's great.

And that's what's needed right now, but what we need is our leaders to actually lead.

But if you do need help, go to civicmedia.us, click shows, go to Matt Nairnair in today's first hour episode, and you're gonna see the 60 minutes.

article transcript but also to see where you can get help if you need it.

This is a little exchange I want to share from you from last night during the 60 minutes interview Nora O'Donnell from CBS says when the stock market is doing well it doesn't affect everybody not everybody's invested in the stock market Trump says it does oh it does it does Nora says but there have been grocery prices are up Trump says

Look, 401ks, people have 401ks.

Their 401ks are double what they were a year ago.

Yeah, mine's not.

No.

Nora says, uh-huh.

But for people that don't have 401ks who aren't invested in the stock market, they've seen their grocery prices go up.

Trump, no, you're wrong.

No, you're wrong.

They went up under Biden.

Right now, they're coming down, other than beef, which we're working on, which we can sell very quickly.

So the beef, the ranchers have really taken a drubbing over a 30 year period because what I've done, the ranchers have done really well.

Again, everything is Biden's fault.

Everything goes back to previous administrations.

Nothing is his fault.

And apparently he has no control over

anything either.

And if you are sitting there going, yeah, nothing is his fault.

He's always right.

And he's never wrong.

And if he is wrong, you're wrong because you're trying to do whatever.

Ask yourself and you never will because self reflection is not among the mega strongest personality traits.

Why is he never wrong to you?

Why is everyone else wrong?

Why?

Well, and

I don't know how you were raised

poorly, apparently,

according to this country.

My goodness, my parents did a terrible job.

But

My father would have been very skeptical of anyone who says that they have all the answers and they're never wrong.

Yeah.

I mean- Beware of people who say they're never wrong.

My father always said don't trust a person who says trust me.

That's a good point too.

But also my parents raised me, my father raised me in the old way of the Republican Party sentiment of personal responsibility.

No.

Not anymore.

And I don't know why I do that because I can just blame you, Jane, for whatever I do wrong and walk away and someone else will just say, oh, it must be your fault.

Greg said it's your fault.

It's all Calvin's fault.

It's

all Calvin's fault.

Everything is Calvin's fault.

You can get ahold of Calvin and complain if you want to do that.

We have news coming up next.

On the other side, Civic Media News director, Shaly Pittman will be here.

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by Civic Media's news director, Shali Pittman is here.

Good morning, Shali.

Lots of stuff going on.

Do you even rest on weekends?

You know, this weekend was Halloween, so I took a little break.

Good.

Full disclosure, went to a rave in Richland Center, which is a whole other discussion to have,

but... No, you don't just get to say, I went to a rave in Richland Center, then be like, well, onto the news now.

Because it's 1997 again.

No,

it was great.

Station manager Phil Knee turned me on to it, and my husband and I went, and we had a great time.

Oh,

that is, that's awesome.

Raves in Richland Center.

I know what I'm going to do next weekend.

It was in the warehouse that Frank Lloyd Wright designed and built that was largely Not functional at any point and it's well, I don't know the full history rich and center folks will have to give me the full history

That sounds like a lot of the way that Frank Lloyd Wright designed actually the man made the least comfortable furniture on the planet Essentially, he really did

But it was a eustonian dream just eustonian rave loved it so

very

but

I got some rest, but there is a lot going on, so let's get into it.

I heard you talking about Food Share a little bit earlier on in the program.

So Governor Evers said that he has declared an emergency here in Wisconsin because of these snap benefits running out.

Yes, we are in a state of emergency and a period of quote, abnormal economic disruption.

That's according to the governor on Friday.

He issued an executive order that

It's unclear to know exactly what this does, but it directs the Department of Agriculture Trade and Consumer Protection to begin enforcement against price gouging as food share benefits run out due to the federal government shutdown.

That's about all the governor can do right now.

He doesn't have the power to appropriate funding for...

state funding to continue food share benefits or do other interventions to provide food to Wisconsinites who are about to go without.

Nearly 700,000 Wisconsinites are on food share, including 270,000 kids who rely on what is SNAP, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, in Wisconsin we call it food share.

So, you know, we're kind of stuck.

due to the federal ongoing shutdown, the legislature could intervene, but

it

has indicated that it won't.

State Senate President Mary Felskowski says that lawmakers won't backfill the program with state funding, so that's where we are.

The question I have for you, and this is, you know, this is if you've seen it in any of your research thus far, is there was a call to Governor Evers about releasing

unused COVID funds.

And what I had read was the reason why he can't do that is because the COVID funds may be earmarked for other things that are promised or just haven't been reimbursed yet.

But you just, as you just said, he does not have the power even to release funds himself as the governor.

Am I reading that correctly?

You know, I hadn't seen that.

My understanding is a lot of COVID funds have lapsed, but I don't have a specific answer.

I do know that Governor Evers can't release funds without approval.

Yeah, the

legislature controls it.

We have a fact

checker now.

Maybe he could look into that.

But the legislature approves money.

They have the power of the purse, right?

Right.

So we're stuck, right?

There are some ongoing federal lawsuits.

There are kind of twinned lawsuits happening on a federal level.

And the deadline is ticking also, as you mentioned at the top of the show, for the Trump administration to respond to them today.

And this week...

Wisconsin has signed on to one of those lawsuits, but not the other.

But on Friday, we got the news, as our reporters, by the way, were recording stories about food share.

They had to go back and rerecord as these lawsuits broke, that one federal judge has blocked President Trump from suspending food aid and directing...

Directing it basically to use contingency funds to pay for the benefit.

So that was a Rhode Island judge and he said in an opinion that the the USDA the US Department of Agriculture lacks Let's see that their decision that their announcement that they lack the money needed to cover snap benefits was arbitrary and capricious now

We didn't sign on to that one.

Wisconsin signed on to a different one that requires the Trump administration to use contingency funds for the SNAP program, and they're very similar lawsuits.

And so, you know, Wisconsin signed on to that one, and the Trump administration has until today to respond to

that decision on whether they'll use contingency funds or use other federal funding.

Yeah.

If you're just joining us, Civic Media's news director, Shaly Pittman is here.

We are talking about the lapse in SNAP funding and trying to come up with contingency monies.

I just want to throw something in here, Shaly, because again,

The Trump administration has been ordered by courts to come up with something by noon, but there really is no enforcement mechanism for that.

Right?

I mean, his lawyers can show up in court at noon and say, the dog ate my homework.

I don't have it.

Your guess is as good as mine.

I will point to reporting from the BBC.

Love to read non-U.S.

news outlets sometimes.

BBC is great.

Yeah.

Yeah, they're great.

And they say that if

or they report that if the government used contingency funding, which is not extra money, it's just previously appropriated funds that they could maybe find during a shutdown, that it would only be able to cover about 60% of beneficiaries in a single month.

So it's unclear how much money we actually have.

during the federal government shutdown to do that.

So that's according to reporting from the BBC.

I haven't gone and looked up those numbers.

I will say for Wisconsinites who use supplemental food assistance, who use food share, you can still use the remaining funding from your October benefits.

not sure how many folks have that since, you know, I don't know.

You can use them from October.

But either way, regardless of whatever happens on the federal government level, the benefits for November will be delayed because of how the payments are submitted and processed.

Even if we were to reopen the government tomorrow and end the shutdown, those payments would still be delayed for November.

I want to add a little button on that, that we have reporters across the civic media radio network.

reporting on this in their communities.

And I want to point to James Kelly in Chippewa Falls, Eau Claire area, who attended a press conference last Friday from some state lawmakers.

And he heard from one state rep, Jody Emerson, who was concerned that the delay and the shutdown of food benefits would also affect grocery stores if their usual customers aren't able

to access their food share benefits that, you know, small grocery stores, I think she mentioned Bloomer, Augusta, or Osio, that losing that money may put them out of benefits, which is not something I had thought of before.

Well, again, it's called consequences.

These are called the consequences of these decisions.

I saw a video that broke down the effects of people who don't have SNAP benefits from state to state.

What that will have what effect that will have on our local businesses and it wasn't even just saying like these small grocery stores it was just saying all grocery stores because people will not be spending their money so these businesses will not be making money therefore there will be knock on effects and I want to reiterate as well in the show notes for today in the first hour if you are someone who is being affected by the lack of funding in your food share program here in Wisconsin

go to the first hour, I put it very clearly, a story from Wisconsin Watch as well, saying what you can do to help yourselves out.

And it's good to know that people can also use their remaining balance from October.

If you

have

any.

Exactly.

And that was the other thing too.

I was thinking is like with the rising grocery prices, people might not have that, but at least they have something if it's still there.

I really appreciate the update on this one, Shali.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

We will continue to watch it and you will.

undoubtedly continue to talk about it.

Absolutely.

But there's other news, if you want to go on to... There was a lot that happened on Friday.

It was a true Friday news dump.

There you go.

Let's talk about cell phones in schools.

Yeah, so this one we've been watching for a while since this summer And I think it's really interesting so on Friday governor Evers signed a bill that requires school districts to buy next July adopt a policy on cell phones in schools now this was kind of bipartisan legislation and you know

Most school districts already have a policy

on cell phones in

schools.

That's according to a reporting from the Wisconsin Policy Forum, which gave numbers, right?

There are 421 public school districts in Wisconsin.

According to information from DPI of the 300 or so that responded, 70% of districts only allow cell phones in common areas, another 20% fully banned.

phones.

So that leaves just about 10% of public school districts who don't have any rules on phone usage right now.

Smaller districts in the state were more likely to report the strictest cell phone rules, but this is a bill mandating something that most school districts are already doing in some way.

There are some caveats to this bill.

The bill actually bands or requires school districts to come up with a policy on wireless communication devices.

So this is cell phones.

Yes, but it's also tablets and laptops and gaming devices.

Good.

It

seems those.

Now a school board may optionally adopt consequences for students violating the policy.

It has caveats for school.

devices, um, as well as, you know, situations where you really would need that technology.

Like if you're on a individualized education plan, um, or doing some kind of project in class as authorized by a teacher,

that makes sense.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I, again, I, and we were talking about this before you joined us, Shelly, I think.

Some of the biggest pushback, unfortunately, is going to come from parents.

If there's pushback, it's like, I need to be able to get rid of a hold of my little Susie at any moment of every day.

And yeah.

Not to go all old man about this either.

It's like, I always think to myself, well, when my parents wanted to get a hold of me when I was a kid at school, they called the front office.

The front office said, Greg, please come to the office.

And then I would come to the office and I would get a call.

I get like, I know that Angela, our friend Angela Lang is very much against this.

She thinks a kid should have access to cell phones.

And I wouldn't mind actually talking to her about that to like explain it further.

Cause it's not just so they can play wordle, which I don't know kids who play wordle.

I don't know why I picked that game.

But, but yeah, there is a, there are discussions to be made about it, but I personally just feel like if the parents want to get ahold of them, there are other avenues not letting their kid have it.

a phone in class.

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And what used to be Twitter, she joins us every Monday at this time for a recap of the weekend news.

Civic media news director, Shaly Pittman is here.

Right before the break, we were talking about phones and cell phones in schools and banning cell phones in schools.

There were a number of other measures that the governor signed over the weekend as well, Shaly.

Yeah, but I want to dig in right to something that Greg said, right as we left off.

about the popularity of this measure.

As we were reporting on this bill, I want to point out that this appears to be a trend in Wisconsin of kind of a common sense reform and also maybe a trend nationwide being seen as a quote unquote common sense reform.

So I remember all the way back to June when there was a different

Marquette Law School poll that asked a question about cell phone use in schools, where 89% of respondents said that cell phones shouldn't be used during class, and they would support a measure to reduce that.

72% supported banning cell phones.

kind of from bell to bell, right, during the school day, during lunch and between classes.

So you mentioned one of our colleagues who maybe isn't in support of this.

I just want to look at the statistics from that Marquette Law School poll where completely understand the pros and cons right of what folks think.

But the Marquette Law School poll that asked registered voters in Wisconsin whether they'd support or oppose a ban found that, let's see, I'm looking at the stats, only 4% would strongly oppose a ban using cell phones during the entire school day.

and 2% would strongly oppose a ban using cell phones during class.

If we combine it with somewhat opposed and strongly opposed, that's 5% during class periods and 14% during the entire school day that they'd opposed.

So, you know, there are detractors,

obviously,

as

with

everything, right?

But I also watched a

Pull release with with pull director Charles Franklin and while everything else was you know, so 50 50 or you know divided

close, right?

Yeah, you know this one

he had a slide that was like, this is quick, get rid of your kids' cell phones.

And that was it, right?

And then we moved on.

And that was the sound bite we used.

So, I thought that was interesting.

But then just in looking back at this, I didn't know it at the time, this mirrors national polling too.

The Pew Research Center also in June found that about three quarters of adults nationwide favor banning phones in middle and high school classrooms.

So again, that's during

class and that mirrors other measures happening in other states recently.

At least 35 other states have adopted measures restricting the use of phones in schools in just the last two years.

That's according to a reporting from the AP.

So there are, this is happening nationwide, right?

This isn't a Wisconsin only issue.

Some of our neighbors have had interesting fights over this.

There's a big...

partisan fight in Michigan over it.

A measure failed in Illinois, but it's probably slated to come back.

And Minnesota has adopted one, although they're like...

tweaking it or adding additional things to it.

So this is an area of kind of ongoing public policy.

But yes, Governor Evers did sign other bills on Friday.

A

whole bunch of them.

I'm going to interrupt you just for a second, Shaly, because we had an email come in, a text come in from Laurie and Hayward.

who says, I just want to give you a different opinion about cell phones and schools.

I can't help but think of those parents when there's a school shooting, the last thing they hear, little kids calling them to say, I love you or I'm afraid.

those parents have a chance to comfort their kids during a horrific time.

I wish maybe people would give a thought to that.

That's a good reminder, Lori.

It's a horrific reminder, unfortunately, on why some folks, why some parents might want their kids to have phones.

And that came up during discussion of this bill while it was on the floor.

There were a few legislators who made this exact point, including one, and I don't want to miss speak, so I won't say her name, but I think I know who it is who.

had just recently gone through the abundant life or seen in her constituents the abundant life school shooting here in Madison and made that exact point that if there was a threat in schools, she would want to be able to communicate with her daughter rather than, you know, waiting at

many hours to be reunited.

No, I certainly think that that's valid and that's tragically.

is just indicative

of where we are.

It's definitely part of the discussion.

And unfortunately, when you try to not argue, when you just try to discuss this point, it's difficult to not sound incredibly callous or unfeeling towards situations in the past and in the future, unfortunately.

But yeah, it's, it's, it is tough to talk about, but we do see many parents.

We say, as you just said, Shali, nationwide, most folks agree that this shouldn't be available.

And, you know, I mean,

That's we go from there and they come up with contingency plans then too.

I don't know.

I'm not a parent.

I have children in school.

But yeah, I mean, it's definitely a hard topic to discuss when you come to this point specifically.

Well, an issue that obviously isn't going to be going away anytime soon.

She is Civic Media's news director and she joins us every Monday at this time for a little recap of the weekend news.

Shelly Pittman.

Thanks so much, Shelly.

We'll see you next Monday.

Thanks so much.

Take care.

You too.

We have news coming up next.

And then when we return, we're announcing

a special announcement.

It sounds announced and malicious.

It's announcing things.

It's terrible.

It's all on the way.

Stay close.

You're listening to Matt Nair on air on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Good morning and welcome, welcome to Matt and Air on Air. Jane Matt and Air. Greg Bach and Calvin Butenoff coming to you live from our home here at Radio Park in Racine. You can always join us. You can call, you can text. The number is the same at 855-752-4842. You can also leave a comment if you're watching in the live stream on Facebook, YouTube and what used to be Twitter as promised.

We do have a big announcement a special announcement special big announcement Calvin hit it There it is Wait wait wait wait. It's coming. There we go after 44 years in radio. Yeah, the past three at Civic Media Mm-hmm Almost two years as host of this show Matt near on air

I am happy to share with you that I am going to be retiring next month. Excuse me? I am going to retire in December. Sorry, my brain just went into a dull, faint humming sound. All I'm hearing are lies being spewed by this clear robot that's replaced our beloved Jane, who will never leave radio.

It's time. It's time. It's time. It is time. It's absolutely time. And I really just want to take this opportunity to say thank you. Really. Yeah. Thank you for four decades of welcoming me into your homes and your cars and your garages and your barns or wherever you listen to the radio. Thank you so very, very much. I have been so fortunate.

for the last 44 years, whether I shared the loss of a pet, or the loss of a boyfriend, or the loss of a job, or I celebrated getting a pet, or getting married, or getting a job. Or getting a boyfriend. That too. You grieved with me, you celebrated with me, you gave me words of comfort, and encouragement, and congratulations, and well wishes, and the stories that people have shared with me over the years.

through your phone calls and your emails and your texts and even your voice notes have made my life much richer, much fuller and most definitely much funnier. All right. So thank you to my colleagues, Greg and Calvin, past and present, everyone here at Civic Media. I am so proud. I am so proud to finish up my career on this incredible network. This is just the beginning, everybody.

This is just the beginning for new chapters ahead. New chapters ahead? And then, and this is, I mean, you are retired, you're announcing your retirement. This is by no means the last day we're gonna be. My last show will be December 12th. There you go. And we're gonna have some special guests and special things. And special laughs. And special laughs. And I guarantee you she's gonna cry. Oh, I will absolutely. Oh my goodness. Be a blubbering mess.

Um, but thank you all so very, very, very much from the bottom of my heart. It has been an incredible ride. It's been remarkable. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think that I would spend 44 years doing this. Yeah. I mean, and for the most part, state employed, shocking. And you got to, you know, I don't know, like the past three years have been wonderful to watch you just take.

the reigns of a show and really molded into something special. It has been so much fun. And I firmly believe that this has been the most important work I've ever done. Again, I thank Civic Media for giving me this opportunity, which is very rare. And for anyone who knows media and how media works, it's pretty unusual for a 60-something woman to be given her own show.

It really is a rarity. And so thank you to Civic Media for believing in me and trusting in me and giving me this opportunity. It's been incredible. I have learned so much. I've learned so much. And hopefully we had some laughs along the way.

What are you talking about? We've had lots of laughs. We had lots of laughs today. We did. Yeah, so I don't think you need to worry about that. And I'm going to let you into a little secret in the world of Jane and our conversations. One of the things that she's always worried about is that this whole thing, whether it's the show or your career hasn't had an impact on people, I think you know very well that's

not the case. But you know how difficult it is because we have this is very much a one-sided communication medium. Yeah. And so we say things and they go out into the ether and you don't know how that lands a lot of times. But just from the just from the announcement that's been announced certainly before we just made this announcement a few minutes ago people are already sending in their well wishes and telling you that they you know from Sue from Franklin simply no she's like seriously congratulations a well-deserved retirement and from Wausau congrats

That's Carmella from Milwaukee. OMG, Jane. Thank you. Please pop in once in a while or give us updates. Loves ya. Carmella and Chris Casper says, I already missed Jane. Thank you so much. I think that we will be having

Wonderful, wonderful questions, or wonderful, sorry, I read, I read a word question. We'll be having one in conversations, talking about the memories, talking to some friends from the past who knows who will stop by, but we will have wonderful discussions and, and just be a part of it. And you can find out more by going to Civic Media.

If you go to the front page, there's actually, you can go right there. It just has the big announcement and you can click more. We got a press release out because we want to tell the world this is an important thing. You're important. Deal with it. I really appreciate that. You're important. I also just want to share that, by the way, to the disappointment of some, yeah, I'm not getting shoved out and I'm not being forced out and I'm not, this isn't, I'm not hanging on by my fingernails going saying, no.

We talked about this a long time ago, even when I started as host of this program. And I told the managers here at Civic that I wanted to retire by the time I was 66. I'm going to be 66 shortly after the first of the year. This was always the plan. This was always the plan. And again, I just

I want to thank Civic again for knowing that and still giving me the gig. Not saying, like, oh, well, goodbye. Oh, well, OK, never mind. We'll get somebody else. Thanks a lot. That was great. Yeah. And we're seeing chats through Civic Media coming through. Now everyone's hearing the news right now as the message is being dispersed. Melissa K, the very wonderful, wonderful Melissa. A work-winning host.

award-winning host, Melissa K. I will miss you on the airways, Jane. You are fabulous. And Pat Crichtlow just sent a crying emoji, broken heart and then hearts, because he loves emojis. Well, and don't we all? Don't we love emojis? Don't we just love emojis? I will not ask you what the next chapter is right now. We'll talk about all that stuff in the weeks to come. And like I said, we're going to have

wonderful discussions and to have great laughs and maybe even listen to some things from the past. Who knows? There's some interesting things from the past. Folks, she was in radio in the 80s, so you know there's fun things happening there. There's a commercial that I was in with one of my first partners just for the perm.

We need to share that just so you can see the perm I had in 1987. It's not so much a perm, but a protective helmet of hair which kept you from any enemy's foreign and or domestic that is really just... It's an arrow. It's like an arrow that points up to the sky to say, God, why? God, why? You forget that we did those things. Oh, I don't.

I had a mother in the 80s who loved a good permanent set. Who didn't love a good perm? Exactly. And you all look at all of the wonderful things on the live King Rack. Congratulations, Jane. We'll miss you. Miss RDT. Love you, Jane. I miss you. I love, I will miss you so much, but whatever you choose, you will excel. Congratulations, Robert.

Rob and Tiger just says, congratulations, Jane, on a very wonderful career, very best in the future. You will be missed. And Jenny says, though we've only begun getting to know one another, Jane deserves some rest and relaxation. It's time for the animals and gardens to have a full attention. It's, yeah, it's- Now I can concrete the whole thing. I can finally be happy. Why? Conquering over my garden. How's your garden? It's gone. It's concrete. It's absolutely-

If you are just joining us, our big announcement, our special big announcement. Your special big announcement. I'm not going to. I need a job. I am retiring next month. I will be retiring in December. My final show will be December 12th.

All of that week leading up to my final day, we will have special guests and special things and special nightmares for my past. Never know. We're not going to have special nightmares. That's not what's going to happen. Rita and LaCrosse listening in WLCX.

really gonna miss you. Good luck on your new adventure. Kimberly and Wawa Tosa listening on WAUK. Can we get a Jane Says t-shirt? We will miss you dearly. Merch, Kimberly is a whole other topic. We would love to get you a Jane Says t-shirt, Kimberly. That would be fabulous. And Melissa and Steven's point on WAUK says love you, Jane and Greg. We love you right back, but it's, yeah, it's gonna be...

It's gonna be a fun next few weeks and then I'm looking forward to your further adventures. And that, whether you just sit in the back garden and read books and sip tea, or you decide to become an MI6 spy, unless you've been one this entire time. I wasn't gonna say that. Oh my goodness. Now you busted me. Sorry about that. I don't know how to keep secrets. It's my opportunity to finally...

pursue my passion in astrophysics. Astrophysics? Absolutely. I mean, Dr. Jane McNair. It is interesting, though, when you tell people that you're retiring, everybody says, so what are you going to do? Like, I don't really, I'm going to live, I think, and goof around a little. See, here's the thing is, that is, okay, I'm glad you're saying this now, because you have brought this point up a few times.

That's a perfectly legitimate question. And the answer you could always say was, I'm not sure yet. Not be baffled by it. But it's almost like people expect you to have a, I'm going to write the next great American novel and then I'm going to change the world. No, they don't. They're just saying, hey, what's next? And if you say, I don't know, they're going to be like, okay, then they're going to move on. Okay, then. Yeah. Well, hey, Jane, Jane, let's try it.

You're retiring. I am retiring. I just heard it listening to Civic Media did this great show Matt and Aaron air 9 to 11 Monday through Friday's catch it What are you doing next? I don't know great. I gotta go to the grocery store now. Cool. Thanks, man. Talk to you later. See it's that simple If you have retired, I would love to know what you did. Yes, and what things you started to do after you said goodbye to work were you able to just Stop because I don't know anyone who's retired

who is just like, I'm done today. I'm just going to sit on the couch and watch some TV and tomorrow. Same thing. It's always I got to do something. Well, yeah. And I would love to hear from you if you have suggestions on what to do in retirement at eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two. Stay with us. You are listening to Matt Nair on air. This is the Civic Media Radio Network. We'll be right back. Big announcements.

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Tony Shaloub, Wisconsin native, he's from Green Bay.

Actor on Monk.

Actor on Wings.

Actor on many things.

He's got a new show on CNN called Breaking Bread with Tony Shalub.

And he spent a whole bunch of time filming an episode in Green Bay.

We're gonna talk about if he comes back, where do you think Tony Shalub should go next?

Yeah, tell us where in Wisconsin he should...

Visit also by the way, I thought breaking bread was about an actor who had to turn to a life of making illegal breads and oh sorry wrong show wrong show

wrong

show

different different show By the way, if you're just joining us we announced at the top of the show.

I am retiring after 44 years behind the microphone the last three years here at Civic Media almost the last two years

as host of this show, my final show here on the network will be on December 12th.

I think it's really, I think from now on for the rest of the time being between now and the 12th, I should always act like I'm just hearing this for the first time.

Never heard it before.

What?

Who told you?

Wait,

hi.

This was always.

I was never told this.

By

the way, just to clarify, this was always planned.

Yes.

This

was always the plan, even when.

I started here even when they offered me my own show

to

host Mountain Air on Air.

They've known about this for a long time and were gracious enough to say that's okay.

Do it for as long as we got you.

Exactly.

And that's basically another way of Jane saying to her haters, she's not being fired.

Yeah, they didn't fire me.

Yeah, sorry.

Sorry.

Sorry, all those people out there who leave us really nice voice notes.

But yes, we've gotten some wonderful, wonderful text messages.

But before we get to those, we have a caller

on the line.

Cindy from Appleton is joining us.

Good morning, Cindy.

Thanks for being here.

What do you want to say?

Well, it's sad to hear that you're leaving, but I get it.

But if you're looking for retirement opportunities, there's lots of volunteering in humane societies, feeding America and things like that.

Excellent ideas.

When I officially retire, I am going to start traveling.

Of course, I wouldn't be doing that now because of an idiot that is not in charge.

But it is something I will plan on doing eventually.

I appreciate that, Cindy.

Thank you so much.

Oh, yeah, there's lots of volunteer opportunities available from, like Cindy said, from the Humane Society to Feeding America and food shelters and food pantries and all those things.

So, yeah, I'm looking forward to exploring some of those options.

And by the way, I'm still going to be showing up across the network here and there.

Oh, really?

Oh, really?

Yes.

Really?

What are you going to ban me

now?

Like I have power, please.

You're adorable.

Debbie on the live stream says, congrats, Jane.

Everyone will miss you and love listening to you, to your amazing vibe with the cause.

By the way, Debbie is my cousin who lives in South Dakota.

Oh, and Aquanet as well.

Aquanet.

Yes, Aquanet.

So much Aquanet.

When you can't afford a military grade helmet, Aquanet.

That does the job.

Exactly.

We also got some wonderful text messages coming through here.

Oh my goodness.

Let's see here.

John from Oshkosh says, Jane, I had to pull over to text your voice.

We missed on this great network best wishes on the new adventures and some much-deserved R&R civic media.

and listeners have been better off with your perspectives and presence on air.

Thank you so much, John.

That's so

sweet of you.

We really appreciate that.

Absolutely.

Let's see here.

This is just from someone listening to WAUK.

First, congrats.

You've earned time to live for you.

Second, I'm a puddle, but sadly, it's not about me.

And finally, my deep love and respect to a woman who helped break the glass ceiling in this industry and did it with class.

talent and charm.

Save me an aisle seat at the theater for a happier, better latter day.

So it's a lot of wonderful congrats from congrats to you from Troy and Mount Horrib.

Thank you, Troy.

Carmella, as far as the question is, we will, we will share more about the show in the coming weeks.

But yeah, for right now, it's all about Jane and the fact that you are going to be hanging up.

Taking out the microphone.

For the full-time notion.

For the full-time notion.

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

December the 12th will be your last, your last official day here as far as like, you know, being matinee on air.

Right.

And but yeah, we're gonna have a lot of fun.

We're gonna talk to a lot of great people.

And like, I'm gonna just actually have like eight boxes of Kleenex.

For me.

For you, yeah, mainly, but I will probably.

I'm gonna

fall apart.

I will, I'm a squish.

We all

know I'm a squish.

I know you try to push forth this really like you know like I'm tough and Just start show her a dog video.

She's like, I don't know what to do with myself Squish

8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Ollie joining us real quickly.

Ollie.

We don't have a lot of time Thanks for joining us.

What'd you want to say?

Well, I just want to say you'll be missed and I understand you're wanting to peeve over the

I'm a little concerned that you might start tearing down your East Wing.

I

will not.

I promise you, Ollie, any improvements I do on the East Wing will not touch the current East Wing.

Yeah.

Unless I decided to tear the whole thing down, then who's going to stop me?

Yeah, who's exactly?

Exactly.

I appreciate it, Ollie.

Thank you so much.

Yeah.

And, uh, yeah, it's, uh, it's, we're getting a lot from inside and outside the civic media universe.

We're getting a lot of wonderful, wonderful wishes, a lot of crying emojis, a lot of people are going to miss you, Jane.

I

am gonna miss everyone here so much, seriously.

I have had, again, with all of the challenges that we've had in these past couple of years, showing up here every day and working with you and Calvin and everyone else at Civic Media has kept me from going crazy.

Well, I'm glad we kept you from going crazy.

Yeah, it would have been ugly.

Bob, really quick before we get out, before Audio Sorbet here, Bob in Glendale says, hi, Jane, wanted to wish you the best of luck.

I've been a listener since the Gene Miller days.

You are true professional radio person, happy retirement.

We will miss you, Bob from Glendale.

Thank you so much, Bob.

Really appreciate

it.

All

right, we got news coming up next.

And then a little Audio Sorbet where we lighten things up, get away from the news.

We're talking about Tony Shalub.

Where should he go?

In Wisconsin.

In Wisconsin.

In Wisconsin.

That's how the ways stay with us.

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Network.

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Welcome back to Mattnare on Air.

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Hello,

live stream.

Oh, yes, I know.

Hello, live stream.

Wow.

Thanks to Dan Schaefer, who did some.

goosing on social media for us to

get all

those live streamers to join us.

If you missed it at the top of the show, I did announce it was the announcement of an announcement.

I'm retiring next month.

I'm retiring in December.

December 12th will be my last full show here at Civic Media.

It's been 44 years, three years here at Civic, almost two years.

as host of Manton Air on Air, not

quite two.

In January,

it would be two.

Days.

And also, you started hosting the gig in the fall of 23, which, whenever I say stuff like that, makes me sound like an old, back in the fall of 23.

Back in the day.

We got our first battery operated radio.

But yeah, you've been, it's...

It's been your show for quite a while now, and I personally feel like we're gonna go out with some style.

We're gonna have some fun.

We're gonna make Calvin laugh a few times.

I know that's difficult.

See, he's smiling right now, but I can get him to laugh, remember?

We'll make him to giggle.

It should be a lot of fun.

So I hope you can join us that that last weekend that last show that will happen on December 12th.

Right now, this is the portion of the program that we call Audio Sorbet, where we like to get away from the news and talk about lighter things so we don't all crack up.

And there was an article in the Milwaukee Journal sent in all about Tony Shalhoub, Wisconsin native, of course, famous actor known for wings, wings.

Monk.

Monk.

The Marvelous Ms.

Maisel.

Marvelous Mrs. Maisel.

Mrs.

Maisel.

Galaxy Quest.

One of my favorites.

If you haven't seen it, you should watch it.

But he filmed the whole episode.

He's got a new series on CNN called Breaking Bread with Tony Shalhoub.

And he did a whole series with LaRoy Butler.

Yes.

In Green Bay.

And that got us talking this morning before we jumped on the air about where else should Tony go when he comes back?

Yes, because, you know,

It's going to get a second season.

It's a great show.

It's Tony Shalu.

Why wouldn't you do that?

Exactly.

855-752-4842.

855-75 Civic.

When Tony Shalu makes a second go around here in Wisconsin for his Breaking Bread series on CNN, where should he go?

Yeah, where should he visit?

Where should he, where, where's the restaurant in your town that he should stop at?

Where is your favorite coffee shop?

Where is your, maybe you have an attraction.

Oh, yeah.

Honestly, it doesn't have

to be food.

It

doesn't have to be

food.

For this, we're just speculating.

So,

yeah.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

I'm trying to think if it's still... If he's coming to this area, southeastern Wisconsin, I would say probably want to grab cheese curds.

I mean, all over Wisconsin, but I can always name a few places that would be great for cheese curds.

Better than Culver's.

I don't want to get do you ask me getting trouble with culvers.

Do you know how much this?

Network loves on culvers.

I love culvers I love culvers too, but I don't you don't want to get into the cheese curd wars I don't want to well I don't want to get into a cheese curd like I won't win that war.

I'm just one man I can't take on culvers all I will say about that I enjoy their cheese goods, but they are not my first choice That's all I'm saying.

That's fine coming with peace.

It's

it's Europe hit you

can have an opinion.

Yeah, Calvin

You want to check in on this?

Well, I guess I just have an opinion on cheese curds.

I will say what Greg does not want to say.

I love Culver's cheese curds.

They are not what I would totally consider a Wisconsin cheese curds as far as their breading.

It's more of like a breadcrumb breading.

When I think of Wisconsin cheese curds, it should be a beer batter breading.

So I guess that's...

where I agree with Greg.

So we're

getting very particular now about our curds.

Yes, I'm

pretty particular.

But like I said, I like I like Culver's cheese curds for what they are.

But if we're talking about down home Wisconsin cheese curds, it should be beer battered.

Yeah.

And there's a place in Milwaukee, Lakefront Brew has like the best cheese curds ever.

I mean, oh my gosh, you can't stop with them.

And they're big chunks too.

And it's a it's a beer batter.

dip.

It's a beer batter.

They're dipped in and then it's a garlic ranch.

You dip those in and it just, and you don't even need the ranch.

I will say this is not, by the way, I'm not shilling for like from brewery, even though full disclosure, we're available for sponsorships.

I used to work there.

Uh, but I just think I, yes, culvers, the cheese curds are serviceable.

They're fine.

They're good, but I don't just, I agree with Calvin.

It's like, I, to me, they've got to be like a

An experience and then those just step up the game a little bit

now.

I'm hungry.

All right cheese curds We got Tony Shalub on the list for cheese curds.

What else should Tony Shalub visit?

Where should he visit the next time he comes around for his new show on CNN called Breaking Bread with Tony Shalub his series is focused specifically about bread Yes,

but

we wanted to open it up and make it much wider.

Well, and I think that you know

One place he can go, Robford and Tigerton talks about this place a lot.

He says on the live stream, he should stop at Rachel's Roadside off of Highway 29 near Wittenberg for an excellent meal.

And I'm sure in that meal, he will get bread.

I'm sure he will get bread.

But I've heard great things about Rachel's Roadside, a lot of variety in their menu.

Is it a diner?

Or is it?

It's a diner.

You can't go wrong with a good

diner.

No, I agree.

Oh, another place he can go to where we went to this year, the Butternut Cafe.

Oh, it's so good.

The whole show is just about bread?

The whole show is just about bread.

Yeah, breaking bread.

That's amazing.

I mean, I, when I heard breaking bread, I heard, I think having a meal with somebody.

That's what I thought too.

I

mean, I'm sure they eat other things other

than

bread, but that is the focus.

You know what I really want right now?