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That means Jim Santel.
Our friend and colleague and host of Amicus, a law review on Saturdays across the network from 9 to 11, he will be joining us.
A number of really important cases in front of the Supreme Court right now, one in particular dealing with the what remains of the Voting Rights Act.
We're gonna talk to Jim Santel about that, as well as another decision a judge has halted for now, Trump's continuing purge of employees of the federal government during the shutdown.
So we will talk about that with Jim Santel, many, many, many other things.
In hour number two, we talked about this a little bit yesterday and seeing some of the reactions from Republican politicians, I think it's worth another discussion.
The No Kings
rally on Saturday.
You mean the hate America can't stand anyone in America?
I despise America
rally.
If you're a Republican, that's what that is.
Yes, we have a compilation of comments.
from Republicans about the people who are going to be attending Saturday's No Kings rally around the country.
It'll be interesting, I think, to hear how some people are looking at this and really want to paint this.
Oh my gosh.
I mean, yesterday we spoke about this rally and the estimated numbers is somewhere between four to five million across the country.
I wanna know those numbers.
I have a feeling, I mean, I'm not gonna say like double, triple, but it will, I mean, I can imagine the amount of people who are disaffected between the first one and June and now, I mean, we'll talk about it more, but this is gonna be a very interesting day and thank you.
And if you're planning on going to No Kings Railway, we would love to hear from you.
Yes.
Again, that's gonna, we're gonna start off hour number two with that right after the 10 o'clock news.
And then at 10.35,
Our audio sore bass segment, Journal Sentinel Sports Guru J. Our Radcliffe is gonna be here.
We will talk all things sports speaking of.
Badgers and the Packers and the Bucks and nothing that makes my stomach hurt.
Game three is tonight.
The Brewers at the Dodgers, our broadcast will start at 4.30, first pitch going out about 5.08.
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And Brewers at the Dodgers, our broadcast will start at 4.30.
Wanted to start off with this.
Oh, just one real quick side note.
We're not going to delve into this much today.
But that $20 billion, we're loaning Argentina.
Yeah, we're helping our buddies.
Yeah, where it's up to $40 billion now.
Oh, great.
Where is that money coming from, Jane?
You know, at taxpayers.
Oh.
Also, you know.
We're gonna hear next hour from all the Republicans saying, follow the money about the No Kings protest.
Follow the money.
Who's paying for this?
Where is this going?
Some interesting things about this Argentine bailout when you start looking at who benefits from this bailout.
For example, Scott Bassent, who by the way worked for George Soros for a really long time.
Now, part of the Trump administration, a good friend of Scott Bassent, Rob Citrone, owns Discovery Capital.
They bought Argentine debt and equity in a whole bunch of companies tied to Argentina's overall economy.
He made a bet that the economic policies under Malale would revitalize the economy.
That hasn't happened.
So this seems that it's going to kind of help a couple of people, I think.
A couple of hedge fund guys who are buddies with Scott Bassett, but that's a little side note.
Why are
we even surprised anymore?
Just sharing information.
We wanted to start off with this kudos to Milwaukee Mitchell International Airport.
Yes.
Way to go.
Milwaukee Mitchell Airport is not playing the video from Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.
which blames the Democratic Party for the current government shutdown.
Trump administration's message blaming Democrats for the government shutdown is not being played at Mitchell Airport.
Airport officials say this is in part because of a local ordinance that prohibits political messaging.
Yeah.
It's also a violation of the hand check, but that's a whole other thing.
The video playing at some airports around the country shows Homeland Security Kristi Noemann, her hair extensions addressing passengers about airport delays.
It's TSAs, she says, top priority to make you have the most pleasant and efficient airport experience possible while keeping you safe.
However, Democrats in Congress refuse to fund the federal government.
The message has gotten a lot of backlash from airports who will not play it and also from passengers who are not happy.
One passenger talking to WISN said, I don't think there should be a political statement for an airport to be broadcasting and showing.
Another person said, I think the people in Washington need to stop making political statements and work together to solve this budget crisis.
and get things back to normal for people.
By the way, just as a reminder, Republicans control all three branches of government.
They
have the White House and the House and the Senate.
And the courts, all three, they have all three branches.
It's all concerned.
Plus, but they won't negotiate.
They are refusing.
to negotiate.
Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House, said the other day, we have no strategy.
I have no strategy.
It's either Democrats capitulate
or there's no deal.
And he continually blames Democrats.
They're calling it when they call it Schumer shut down.
Like, you guys, it's such a thin narrative.
The only people who believe that are your sick offense, you are in charge.
Get it?
Pass it, do it, just make it happen.
It's called compromise.
But no, Jane, they're in charge.
It's called power.
Exercise some power and do it.
But you don't because you can't.
And by the way, it's day 15 of the shutdown.
Congress doesn't been working for a while because Mike Johnson keeps shut.
They've been off
for a month.
Over a month, five weeks.
And they're doing that not just because of anything other than the...
the Epstein files, which by the way, release them.
And also we have a sitting elect, we have an elected woman who should have taken the oath weeks ago and they still have it.
And by the way, last week we talked about the fact that Mike Johnson said out loud in a microphone, well, whenever she wants to do it, we can do it, I guess.
They're not
gonna do that
now.
No, no.
And yesterday he said, I believe, of course, on Fox, he said, bless her heart.
Talking about that lawmaker.
It's from she's from New Mexico.
I believe
I thought it was
Arizona.
It could be Arizona.
We'll figure out Yeah, it's it's it's pretty amazing I'm also curious how much this little video message cost because as you recall at the very beginning of the Trump administration They had Kristi Noem film and ad to warn
people who were here illegally that were gonna come after you.
Remember that?
This is
going back months, but
this was
in February of the second Trump administration.
They spent $200 million on that, but they're very fiscally.
I could do something with my phone.
They're very fiscally
conservative.
It's a Democrat, a democratically elected woman named Adelida Grahavla.
Sorry, I pronounced that incorrectly.
She's a Democrat from Arizona.
She has been elected.
She's waiting to be sworn in.
And the big thing is that if she gets sworn in, most likely the Epstein files can be voted on to be released.
Yes.
Also, just as a quick aside to this whole video thing at the airport.
When's the last time you actually paid attention to a television that didn't have your arrival or departure?
The fact that they thought that this was a good idea like yeah, well we'll tell them nobody cares
But I think these are I and I'm trying to think when I've seen a TV when I'm actually standing in the TSA line
I
don't
know I don't remember
one at least not at O'Hare no Calvin maybe
Yeah, I flew to Vegas in August
And I was obviously before the shutdown, so there was no chance of seeing this particular video, but I know both in Milwaukee.
Well, for sure, Milwaukee, I don't remember what TSA was like in Vegas, but at least in Milwaukee, there were TVs broadcasting a message from Kristi Noem.
Oh, there were?
Yes.
So
it's like, it's like when we were kids and the AV nerd would come in with the TV that was strapped down to the thing and then be like, all right, kids, we're going to watch a video because your teacher tied one on last night.
This is so stupid.
This is so incredibly stupid.
And yeah, how much did this video cost?
I'm just curious.
And again, they're all about fiscal responsibility.
I mean, 855-752-4842.
Bill from Economy Walk is on the line.
Good morning, Bill.
Thanks for joining us.
What do you want to say?
Good morning.
I think the Democrats say we're going to stay shut down till Mike Johnson.
decides to get honest and talk about that illegal or immigrants don't get health care.
Because if we don't start with an honest platform in an open discussion to bring us our country back together, what's the point?
Thank you.
Thanks, Bill.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, there's a lot of questions I'd like to ask Mike Johnson, but his go-to response like so many now is, oh, I haven't seen that.
Oh, I've been too busy.
I didn't have a chance to read that.
They never see anything.
I mean, it's it's a remarkable considering the access they have to information that most of us don't have and yet they seem to be more poorly informed than regular people.
That's kind of surprising.
Especially from the luminaries of their party, the higher up leadership of their party making statements on behalf of their
offices and their party.
When I worked in politics and I was a staffer for an elected mayor, I mean, my job, one of my jobs was to make sure he saw all the things that were coming out of city hall, all the things that were coming of, I would just say of note.
Right.
Statements coming from
politicians.
You need to know this.
You need
to be aware of this just in case anyone asks you.
But now, now the, the, the acceptable answer is I didn't see that.
I'm so busy.
I'm getting ready for the final season of Stranger Things, man.
Do you think I'm going to listen to JD Vance,
please?
Oh, again, my house members have only been off for a month.
What do you think they're fishing?
What are they, the Wisconsin legislation?
Cassandra on the live stream.
So let me get this straight.
My tax money can't pay for health care because that's socialism, but it can pay for propaganda at the airport.
You know what else, Cassandra?
Yes.
You know what else we can pay for?
Billionaires
tax cuts for billionaires for billionaires
need them and and you know and and and and all that not working They're doing to our tax money the government shut down and they're still getting paid and they're not working Yeah, so make that make absolute sense in my brain This is the this is the party of personal responsibility and bootstraps and you got to work and no handouts Well, I'm handing my money directly to them while they're doing bupkiss
This might be a good time to call them.
How do I do that, Jane?
I feel powerless right now.
You could go to myvote.wi.gov.
What a
website.
Myvote.wi.gov.
Go to that website, put in your address.
It will bring up the contact information for all of your elected officials, Republicans and Democrats, phone numbers, addresses, useful contact information.
Yes.
You may want to call them and let them know that you want health care.
You want them to do the ACA.
And I don't know, we kind of like them to do their jobs.
I was going to
say, let's start, let's start
simple.
Small, so we just start small.
Just start working again.
Yeah, just
do
something.
Thank you.
When we return.
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Jim Santel is coming up after the 9 30 news host of amicus, a law review across civic media on Saturday mornings from nine to 11.
So stay tuned for that.
Some big cases.
Burbling through the courts, we'll say.
This though, Governor Evers from Wisconsin Examiner urging the energy department not to cut 1.5 billion in Wisconsin energy investments.
Governor Evers wants the Trump administration not to roll back previously awarded money in the face of rising energy costs.
Despite what Donald Trump says, energy is not down.
Energy prices are not coming down and neither are groceries.
Sorry.
It's just reality.
The governor's office put together a list of 22 projects which the energy department was going to fund and has now been marked for cancellation.
Evers says federal support plays a critical role in advancing the Wisconsin idea and American innovation.
Lowering energy bills for families across America is critical to maintaining
our nation's leadership in science and technology.
Letter also forecasts rising costs for electric power, energy think tank, energy innovation, attributes to the tax and spending the big blob of a bill that Donald Trump signed on July 4th.
The governor says cutting this funding at a time of record high energy demand and rising costs is counterintuitive, reckless and ill advised.
Don't disagree with that.
Yep.
And, uh, you know, the, the live stream is saying that the gas is down.
Yes.
The gas prices are down right now because of the season, as Mr. Global has told us during the season, but they're not a buck 99, which is what the president keeps saying.
He keeps saying the buck 99 gas prices.
And I look on gas.
buddy all the time just to make sure because I'd like to see if there's $1.99 gas.
Yeah.
But also, and we want to have him back, and I don't want to speak on it too much because he can discuss it more, but there are dangers to actually oil being a very, very low price.
You get oil below $60 a barrel, and oil companies do not want to drill because they're not making any money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there you go.
This is just kind of the
way it is.
I mean, we are closing down oil.
the Derrick's and whatnot.
They're not drilling because they're not drilling.
And speaking of guests, I paid cash yesterday.
Lowest I could find was $249.
So it's not under $2.
It's not under $2.
And grocery prices also aren't down.
Oh, they are certainly not.
I just bought groceries and they're very,
very expensive.
We'll see what happens with this again with these cuts.
He's being very blatant now about saying that he wants to cut programs that will help Democrats.
Unfortunately, a lot of these programs, especially like energy programs and things like that, it doesn't discriminate and it doesn't affect you depending upon how you vote it.
Kind of a blanket thing.
If the costs go up, they're going to go up for all of us.
Democrats.
Yeah, all people who, all folks, some will be able to afford it because they have a lot of money, especially the folks who are getting the money that we're giving them through the big bill for billionaires, but also the folks who didn't, the folks who did vote for him and the folks who don't like us and the folks who leave really dumb comments on live streams about us.
But you know, hey, that's a free country.
And that's the problem is the sooner that we all wake up and say, Oh, as a class, we're being screwed.
That's when the real work begins.
This is not about left and right.
This is not about the color of your skin or what religion you go to church for.
It's about the fact that when you make a certain amount of money from X to X, the people in power right now in DC see it as a very easy way to take our money and make it their money and tell us that they're doing it for the good of the country.
And by the way...
Because I'm pretty sure none of us got an invitation to this.
But while it's day what, 15 of the shutdown?
Day 15 and some change?
Day 15 of the shutdown.
Tonight, Donald Trump is holding a fundraiser for his big, beautiful ballroom.
Oh, cool, man.
I
think
it's
a million-dollar entry fee.
Shut up.
You're lying.
I'm not.
What?
Oh,
come
on.
OK, all right, all right.
Well, because, you know, he's got to make his donors happy.
I thought that was all paid for.
The big, beautiful ballroom?
I thought that was all like he
secured.
Oh, I gotta look this up now.
Because this is amazing.
I know.
Only we had gotten an invite.
Oh, we all chip in together and then we can all go is a
$200 million project that I'm sure we're not going to pay for pretty much.
News is coming up next when we return.
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Jim Santel is here.
Good morning, Jim.
How are you doing?
Jane, Greg, I'm doing well.
I'm especially encouraged this morning because it turns out that the US Postal Service misdirected your invitation to the Ballroom fundraiser.
I have it right here.
Yes.
And unfortunately, it only contemplates four guests.
So among the five of us, including Calvin,
One of us has to apparently drop out without apparently a $1 million donation.
So that's the important news I've got to convey for you this morning.
Well, we'll fight this out after the show is over, Jim, and decide who gets to go tonight to the big fundraiser for the big, beautiful ballroom.
Let's talk about what's going on with the Supreme Court.
We'll start there.
And what remains of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, right?
is kind of in the balance here.
It is in the balance that may even be on the chopping block, which is stunning, shocking, and horrifying in many, many ways.
A little bit of history as we have talked before.
Supreme Court has taken shots at the voting rights section.
There was a case called Shelby County.
Remember this involving Eric Holder during my term as U.S.
Attorney and the Supreme Court basically said it can't enforce pre-clearance for those jurisdictions that have had a history of discrimination voting.
So sections four and five are gone.
More recently in a case called Bernovich coming out of Arizona.
The Supreme Court said, your standards for approving voting rights violations are very, very high in terms of standards.
So that also took a shot.
You've got Shelby County, Burnovich, and now the new case for all your listeners to write down and know about.
The name of the case is Cal-A, C-A-L-L-A-I-S, comes out of Louisiana.
It once again is a redistricting case and involves line drawing there.
And this time we're back to section two.
Section two, Voting Rights Act is that core provision.
You start the law with this very notion that people should have access to votes and the franchise should not be compromised, especially for people of color.
People would not have English language as a first language.
Issues about poll taxes and
and exams, those kinds of things, establishes the fundamental notion, as you just said, Jane, for 60 years in America that assured access to the polls for all people.
And the Supreme Court now may be taking a big swing at this and following up on its oral argument yesterday.
I remember when four and five were tossed out, that made huge news many years ago.
And one thing that supporters of this
the voting rights act going away, their defenses.
Well, we've come so far in America.
We've come so far.
We've done so much.
We don't need this anymore.
Racism has gone.
We've
elected a black guy in a tan suit.
What could go wrong?
So I feel like when people stand on that ground of we've come so far, it's not difficult to make the discussion, but it's easy for people to say, well, of course we have.
So we probably don't need it, but
Jim, tell us why we still need it and what you as a lawyer could see happening if it went away.
Right, two things.
One is that it is huge if it were to go away.
Not only can the government bring lawsuits to enforce voting rights fundamentally, the government does, but the reality is that the great majority of voting rights case
Cases have been brought by individuals and groups, and we rely upon that to happen every single day, every single week in America to that very important issue, which yes, we should talk in just a moment about what Brett Kavanaugh said yesterday.
Let's first remember what a woman named Ruth Bader Ginsburg said about this very issue at the time that Shelby County, she said, it's like being out in a rainstorm and taking down your umbrella because you're no longer getting wet.
Isn't that wonderful?
That was in her descent in Shelby County.
And the notion is, of course, you're not getting wet because you've got the umbrella up.
Of course, we have had some improvements, not complete in America.
We should be proud of those, embrace those more to do.
But we are not, we are not outside of the rainstorm.
And this notion of taking down the umbrella when we still have, especially now in 2025, great concerns about increased concerns about voting in America and racial discrimination.
Now, Ruth Bader Ginsburg's words are more important than ever, especially when you do have a revisiting of that very issue, Greg and Jane, yesterday.
It's Brett Kavanaugh.
And if I may take some time, it's important to read it out loud.
He says, you know, this court's case is exactly what you just said, Greg.
This court's case is not that you are in the camp with Brett Kavanaugh.
I'm not indicating that, but...
He says this court's case of right of context have said that race-based remedies are permissible for a period of time Sometimes for a long period of time decades, but they should not be indefinite and should have an end point He says and then goes on to quest or raise this question What exactly do you think the end point should be or how would we know for the intentional use of race to create districts and Again, when is this all going to come to an end?
Haven't we gone doing it done enough haven't gone far enough and if that is the articulation of Brett Kavanaugh, it certainly is probably the continuing view of the Chief Justice and Then you've got six to three and what you've got there is a decision probably probably we're not sure we'll find out in June to basically rule that the second Portion of a chapter two section two of the Voting Rights Act
no longer constitutional.
Why?
Because it's violative of the 14th and 15th amendments.
It's contrary now because of the passage of time to the basic pretenants in our amendments to the Constitution.
A stunning argument yesterday and foretells an awful lot about what the Supreme Court might do come June or so.
If you're just joining us on matinee on air Jim Santel is our guest host of amicus a law review Saturday mornings 9 to 11 across civic media Jim just to remind folks and correct me if I'm wrong but one of the things the Voting Rights Act did was to prevent
say Georgia, for example.
And Georgia implements changes to polling places.
And Georgia decides to only keep two polling places open, none of them in black communities.
And that is what the Votings Rights Act was intended to prevent, right?
It's
all
about access.
It's about being able to have access to vote.
It's about certain areas intentionally underfunding staffing at polling places that might be in more minority areas, correct?
Absolutely.
And what happens, of course, is people identify those things.
Not only, as you said, that's the big one, closing down polling spots.
Limiting hours, for example, that's another way to inhibit voting, right?
Doing all kinds of things.
They're at least bright enough not to do poll taxes anymore.
That's too overt.
For now.
We do these other writings for now, for now, right?
And that's exactly it.
So what happens is that, identify that, they're published publicly, and groups sometimes in a former Department of Justice, a former universe, the Department of Justice would have looked at that and said, no, no, not only will that not pass muster, we're going to file a lawsuit to prevent that from happening.
And you'd go into court and for the most part,
judges across the political spectrum.
Federal judges would look at this and say yes.
This is exactly what the Voting Rights Act is intended to address.
We're going to prevent you from doing that.
Reopen those spots.
Put the hours back in place.
Do not put up impediments.
And again, with some success, not universal, but some success, that's what has been accomplished.
This pre-clearance thing we talked about would also have been an option.
No longer, no longer for many, many years now, but the notion that if it's in Alabama or New York or California or Texas, you've got, you're changing the rules in such a way that plainly people of color and other people with immutable characteristics cannot vote, they had to be cleared.
And that was in the legislation.
That was not by some attorney general who said, I want to review all this.
It was in the legislation that said that the Department of Justice has to give the imprimatur the OK for those changes.
John Roberts said, nope, time has come.
We're no longer in 1965.
No longer do we need to do that.
Now we can put people on their own.
We're going to trust them.
This is now the latest invocation of that notion that we are in a different world.
than we were in 1965.
And for that reason, the law no longer needs to enforce voting rights.
Well, I want to go back to something you mentioned with regard to Brett Kavanaugh saying,
yes,
for how long is it to last?
For how long do we need to do this?
And I would I that's a very, very valid question.
And Jane, actually, there's a great example of in 2020 in Milwaukee, for the spring election, they made they brought down to five polling places in the
for everyone to vote in Milwaukee.
Five.
People waited for hours.
People waited for hours.
People still voted.
It was an extraordinary circumstance, but people still did it.
And I feel like the GOP and Madison thought they were getting away with something, but they didn't.
People drove and voted.
But back to the Brett Kavanaugh question of, when will this end?
And I say to all of you, I think that...
It should end when we have a nice long period of states not proposing laws restricting voting based on various aspects, whether it's voter ID, whether it's your paperwork in order, whether it's your name.
And that's not happening because according to the Brennan Center of Justice from January 1, 2021 to mid-September, 2024, this is according to their website, 78 restrictive voting laws in at least 30 states were
proposed and or passed, and 33 election interference laws were proposed or passed in 15 states.
So I personally, I'm not Brett Kavanaugh.
I don't like beer that much, but I would say if you want to gut and or get rid of the Voting Rights Act, there should be a set time.
10, 15, 20 years where we say, all right, there has been no problem with voting people.
We're
going to
behave.
There's been behavior.
There's been no problems.
Everyone seems happy.
Everyone can get to their voting.
Okay, let's look at it.
But that's not the case right now because after Joe Biden won, that's right.
He won after he won in 2020.
GOP run state houses across the country were doing everything they could to put together bills that would intimidate and suffocate voting
rights.
And make it more hard, and make it more difficult, just make it more
difficult to vote.
Absolutely, even again, not to once again invoke history, but even after they got rid of four and five, the pre-clearance, within hours, Greg and Jane, hours, there were legislatures that said, ooh.
Now we're free.
Now we can go ahead.
Nobody in Washington, DC will stop us.
Let's start implementing those rules.
This is literally, once again, the umbrella analogy.
This is children no longer having the restrictions on them to make them behave, to use your very, very good word.
We've also seen, of course, this is a part of a broader aspect of this.
Recall, we talked about it on this very show well over a year or so ago.
Remember the academic cases involving North Carolina and Harvard, where the Supreme Court said, you know what?
You cannot consider race as a factor in admissions.
It could be, again, you could do many, many things, but races should not be a factor.
There again, the notion that we don't need to focus on race as an issue, because what,
in the 23rd
century?
It's been fixed.
It's all been fixed.
Admissions now are good and everything is okay.
This is a theme that we are seeing in voting and admissions and unfortunately at least six members of the Supreme Court seem to be embracing that notion about what America is today.
Clinton, Judy on the live stream says human nature hasn't changed all that much since 1965.
The motives and proclivities to subvert voting processes still exist.
Well said.
Yes, well said.
When we return, a judge
Talking to one of the... Trump attorneys... Said, jeez, you're not even... Did you even read this case?
No.
They didn't.
All the details on the other side.
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with our broadcast and then the first pitch going out about 508 Jim Santel our friend colleague host of amicus the law review saturday mornings across the network from 9 to 11 joins us on thursdays at this time uh jim with the time we had left i wanted to talk about this briefly because all the best people donald trump has always said he surrounds himself with nothing but all the best people
It sure seems like some of these people are DEI hires.
I'm just, I'm just guessing.
Yesterday, the Justice Department appeared in court after Trump and his administration fired thousands of federal workers, Trump publicly threatening Democrats, saying if they don't end the government shutdown, he will continue with more layoffs.
U.S.
District Judge Susan Ilston heard the case on the firings
It was requested by Public Sector Union.
She put a temporary hold on that, which she did.
She then asked for a defense of the government's actions.
They were not prepared to answer.
This is a quote.
The federal employees are being fired and you're not even prepared to address whether that's legal.
Trump's DOJ lawyer responded with, that's correct.
I didn't realize there'd be a quiz.
You mean I have to have read the case and know my arguments when I come in front of it?
What is that, Jim?
What?
This
is back to Hillary Clinton who talked about being prepared, right?
My goodness, who would expect that, right?
I will tell you, if I can turn all three of you into my therapist for just a moment, this is one of my two nightmares.
One of them, Jane, you and I share, this says to us, Greg, being on stage and not knowing what play you're in, what lines you're supposed to speak,
and you're a
disaster,
right,
in front of people.
This is the other one that I have, it's closer to home, and I wake up in a sweat, which is I'm in court, the judge says, Mr. Santel,
Go ahead, call your first witness, and I've got no idea
what the
case is about.
The difference in my therapy that I'm pursuing with you this morning, and this is real.
This happened yesterday in district court, and the attorney from your justice department, they're being paid by us, their tax dollars, not only unprepared, but also apparently asking questions of the judge about what forum this should be in, what court should I be in.
And the judge, Susan Ilston, looks at this attorney and says, as you just accurately quoted, what is going on here?
You're not prepared.
This is once again,
Frankly, our only salvation when it comes to the evil that the Department of Justice is doing, that they're also so stunningly incompetent.
We saw this with the U.S.
Attorney in Eastern Virginia, producing a couple of versions of the indictment of James Comey, plainly fumbling this terribly,
right?
And then she said she never read
it, right?
Right, I've
never read
that.
She signed
it.
Right, right, right.
It is just, it is incompetence with a capital I and N and C and so forth.
And it should be.
Again, we can make fun of it, and we should.
But people should understand how serious this is.
These are the representatives of us.
Again, I know not substantively right now.
And many things about the Department of Justice, I do not recognize anymore from administrations, Republican and Democratic, both in the past.
But the reality is that we need to expect a low, a basic standard of competence.
And it is not here, especially, again,
Why is this case so important?
You've got it just right, Jane and Greg, that this is about people's jobs and whether or not the president's decision to usurp this notion of not having a budget, it's related but not connected to the notion of firing people.
And that's what Susan Ilston says.
She says, you know, we got this budget more than hiccup going on.
But why are we firing people?
We've got no money.
We've got no budget.
That's outrageous.
But the two are not connected.
Knock it off.
And so she enjoins it.
That's the good news, even though the government is not prepared to do it.
But how often does this happen?
We've got Supreme, we've got Judge, Assistant United States Attorneys appearing in front of a judge on those other children who were being deported not too long ago and saying that parents wanted them back.
Turns out they weren't prepared for that either.
That's a lie.
This goes on and on, and everyone should be outraged, horrified that that's the level of representation being made.
The only good thing about it is the incompetence also produces maybe judges making the right decisions.
They're doing it on their
own,
on the merits, but still stunning, stunning reporting, substantively and procedurally coming out of California just yesterday.
Jim, is there an online forum for attorneys where you go mock other attorneys?
Because I think you should start
one.
Right.
Right.
And the answer is there's a bar meeting tonight.
I'm going to a Milwaukee and we will sit around and we will talk about these things.
Unfortunately, it's not going to be on the broadcast on civic media.
Maybe it should be, but we do and we sit around and we say things like, did you hear what happened today?
And all of us are horrified by these kinds of things.
Again, not only comes the substance, nobody competent.
Why do these people have these jobs?
The answer is you're all the departures of the good people.
the competent people, the expertise they've left.
And now you're hiring people who don't know what they're doing.
We have a
government America 2025.
We have a government full of our least qualified cousins.
Jim Santel joins us every Thursday to kick around all things legal.
Join him Saturday mornings nine to 11 across the network for amicus a law review.
Thank you so much, my friend.
We'll see you next week.
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Yeah.
It's happening tonight.
I know you're very.
Fraught with angst
No, I'm just sick to my stomach
all the time.
I can't
enjoy the things in life like Here sitting talking with you the TV shows I love all of the supportive comments on the live stream of everyone who watches who loves us I can't enjoy anything Jane.
I just
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That's all we want.
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After the 1030 news, stay tuned for that.
We'll wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.
Today it is the frog in my throat edition.
That's pretty literal.
You're going to want to stick around for that.
We talked about this yesterday and seeing some of the reactions from members of the right, I think it's worth revisiting Saturday.
No Kings rallies are set for all across the country.
No Kings aka Pro democracy hate America.
Well, yeah, according to some we have a little compilation of Republicans Responding to Saturday's planned.
No Kings rally Kelvin.
Let's play that little clip, please
This No Kings rally this weekend, you know, that's the blue hair anthropomorphic experiment that's going to happen up here in Washington, DC.
I encourage you to watch.
We call it the Hate America rally that will happen Saturday.
Let's see who shows up for that.
I bet you see pro Hamas supporters.
I bet you see Antifa types.
I bet you see the Marxist in full display, the people who
don't want to stand and defend the foundational truths of this republic.
This crazy No Kings rally this weekend, which is going to be the farthest left, the hardest core, the most unhinged in the Democratic Party, which is a big title.
And No Kings equal No Paychecks.
No Kings equal No Paychecks.
Clearly, the Democrats for the Democrat Party of today is not your grandfather's Democrat Party.
Democrats.
They care about one thing and one thing only.
appearing, appeasing the radical, pro-terrorist wing of their party.
You know, the same crowd planning to protest at their I Hate America rally this weekend.
Well, one of the things that I hope Casper Tallin
and
Johnnie are looking into is, you know, the funding of these groups.
You know, who pays for the buses to bust a lot of these folks in?
Who pays for the trucks that have riot gear that they hand out to the peaceful protesters?
And I hope...
They are beautiful here.
The No Kings protests, whatever.
But again, it's absurd.
They're ending a riot
here to unicorns?
Yeah.
I must have missed that coverage from Portland.
It's just it's day 15 folks of the government shutdown and all of those leaders are getting paid to do nothing.
except
go on Fox.
They
go on Fox, they go on OAN, Newsmax, go on CNN, wherever they want to go.
They're going there.
They're talking about this thing happening on Saturday, which
happened earlier this year in June.
There was a country-wide No Kings marches in June across the country, which were all peaceful, if I remember correctly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not playing
with their
narrative.
Well, I mean they don't like it.
I mean they talk about these individuals not being for the fundamental hallmarks of America and whatever they want to say, but they're just scared.
And they're scared of people exercising their rights given to them by the Constitution to assemble in peace, to voice their opinion, and to speak their mind because
These are people in power who are doing the worst things to this country.
If you are going, if you're planning to go to a No Kings rally on Saturday, we would love to hear from you at 855-752-4842.
Really want to know if you got your check yet.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
George Soros, because I guess it's all about following the money Ted Cruz on Fox.
said follow the money you look at the no kings rally there's considerable evidence that George Soros is behind funding these rallies which may well turn into riots and that is what they want I mean that
is
Can you get another thing?
At least just start here.
Pick a different person.
Mark Cuban.
I don't care.
But this George Soros nonsense of he's, do you know how much he'd have to pay to make this happen?
He is a billionaire.
Yes, he is.
And he probably could afford it.
But so far we've said it before.
We've never once seen a George Soros check or even someone like popping a 20 in front of the camera Here's my money from a George Soros protest.
It's never happened and by the way live streamer
Congress gets paid during a shutdown article 1 section 6 says that the 27th Amendment confirms it Congress makes their money during a shutdown So stop it with the ridiculousness, but really when it comes down to it and I'm gonna do Jane I'm gonna throw it back to you for a moment because I want to do some calculations 8
5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 are you planning on going to a no rally on Saturday which tort terrorist organization are you with and
Just curious.
Jack from Merrimack is on the line.
Good morning, Jack.
Thank you for joining us.
Thank you.
Yeah, I'll be in Sock City and demonstrating on the bridge on Saturday, along with several hundred people, because they were the last time.
And yes, we are definitely, we are in Keep Up.
Of course, we have no charter.
We have no group meetings.
We have no membership.
We have no membership card.
We have no headquarters building.
We aren't organized by anybody.
We might be Democrats, Republicans, independents, but we're united in this to point out and resist fascist authoritarianism, just as our fathers and grandfathers were united in that way.
And many of those people died
fighting
and resisting fascism.
Yes.
What are these people afraid of?
Well said,
Jack.
Oh, that's really well said, Jack.
And you know, I don't know if you caught this, Jack, but I believe it was last week.
Attorney General Pam Bondi said that they had arrested the girlfriend of the head of Antifa.
She said that out loud.
We
arrested the girlfriend of the head of Antifa.
Antifa stands for anti-fascist.
Yeah, when you're against Antifa, what does that say about you?
8-5-5.
Thank you, Jack.
Really appreciate it.
8-5-5.
7-5-2.
4-8-4-2.
Are you going to a No Kings rally on Saturday?
We would love to hear from you.
Troy from Mount Horab is on the line.
Good morning, Troy.
Thanks for joining us.
Good morning.
I am the head of Antifa.
You are.
Yes, and I think my wife turned in my girlfriend.
Dang.
Oh, you're in trouble now, Troy.
It's not the first time I've been in trouble.
I plan on going to Boston.
I've got my Who Would Jesus Support sign and my flag, and I'll be carrying both, and I can't wait to...
Join the protesters up there.
Appreciate it, Troy.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Have a great day.
You as
well.
Thank you very much, Troy.
We appreciate you as always calling.
I did some slight calculations here.
Also, live stream comments to start and get unhinged.
It's amazing.
All caps here, baby.
I did some calculations and it would cost George Soros, who also, by the way, was not a Nazi collaborator.
He was the survivor of the Holocaust.
So let's just stop.
Disrespecting that motion.
But if you paid every single, let's say there are 5 million people in June, 5 million people, 25 bucks, that's a fair price.
125 million dollars to fund this.
He's a billionaire and that he could afford that.
But I feel like somewhere around the 50 million dollar mark, we'd know if he was just handing out checks or cash or at least giving them, you know, scoop certificates for culvers.
I mean, that's my point is like this George Soros narrative.
When everything falls apart for them, they always go back to their greatest hits, and their greatest hits are not defendable, they're not true, and they're ridiculous.
It sounds like an old man saying, I met Antifa, he was a bad man.
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, if you would like to join the conversation.
Are you going to Enno King's Rally on Saturday?
8-5-5-7-5 Civic.
By the way,
I
do just want to point out that Scott Bassent, who is in the Trump administration, worked for George Soros for decades.
Really?
Look it up.
Wow.
Look it up.
Scott Bassent worked for George Soros.
So apparently...
George Soros is part of the government.
Oh my
god, I do like King rats that was if this is a beautiful statement wasn't Eisenhower the head of Antifa Yes, you're absolutely right five-star general former president Dwight D. Eisenhower was we found him
now we know Liz from sockville has been waiting on the line.
Good morning.
Liz.
Thanks for joining us.
What do you want to say about this?
Good morning both my husband and I have been to the first no Kings protest
We went to the one in Port Washington and then in West Bend in Ozaki County.
We were not paid.
Everybody was happy and in a great mood.
We were just there to give our voices to what we believe should change in this administration.
And it was actually really
fun.
Are you kind of mad you haven't gotten paid yet, Liz?
I'm
just wondering.
It's kind of dis-
Right?
Everybody,
apparently everybody else is getting paid.
You may want to check on that and find out where your check is.
No, I'm serious.
Thank you for, thank you for checking in, Liz.
Really
appreciate it.
And that's what I love hearing these stories of these protests and people having an amazing time connecting.
And as you said, as you and as...
Jack said earlier, these are, these are like, you know, you can use the flag of Antifa, whatever that means to you.
But it's also the fact that these are individuals who are concerned about our country.
And as I mentioned earlier, and yesterday, how many people from the inauguration to June of this year were part, like who voted for Trump and from the inauguration June joined that rally because they were just affected by what has happened in this presidency.
And how many people from June to this Saturday will join to say, you were right.
Let's do this.
We've got work to do.
Because again, this is not about anything other than class.
We are the working middle class or the working poor or the poor.
And we're the ones who are propping this country up with our tax dollars that is being funneled into the pockets of all these billionaires and millionaires.
So when they're marching, they're marching for all of us.
855-752-4842.
Brett from Brown Deer, you get the last word.
We're up against the clock.
Thank you for joining us.
What do you want to say?
All right.
Yeah, I'll be out in West Bend with me and my buddy.
It's a great time.
The people out there are mostly my age, like in our 60s.
And yeah, we didn't get paid.
And that's all right.
We'll do it for free again.
There you go.
It's about supporting democracy.
It's about supporting America and democratic institutions.
Thank you, Brett.
Really appreciate it.
That's what, you know, King's Rally is for.
Yep.
By the way, on one serious note, we're going to end with this.
All joking aside, I'm worried the crazies that watch Fox will bring a gun to a rally in defense of democracy.
You see anybody acting out on Saturday, do something about it.
Say something right away.
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Also a reminder of our the Maggie Dawn show today, Liam Kent founder and Blue Anchor Project, a national partner of No Kings Day,
is going to be joining us, uh, joining her in the five o'clock hour on keeping protesters safe this weekend.
and what to expect at the No Kings rallies that are set for this Saturday.
So join Maggie later on this afternoon in the five o'clock hour.
We did have a couple other texts came in that I wanted to share with you.
Carmela in Milwaukee, Jane and Greg.
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has an article too about what to expect for Saturday.
The 100 plus organizing groups for the protest include the ACLU.
The American Federation of Teachers
The Human Rights Campaign and others, No Kings Leaders said Saturday's protests will be peaceful and non-violent.
Local organizers all undergoing security and de-escalation training.
Carmella also says now she's going to go find a frog costume and bubbles and flowers.
I'll look for you, Carmella, in the frog costume,
but
for me in the unicorn.
There you go.
I'm going to go buy that this afternoon.
I can't wait to see that costume and the sign.
By the way, if you're going to be in a Kings Royale, please send in photos.
We would love to see them, especially if you live in smaller communities.
Yeah.
We'd love to see what kind of turnout you get.
And that's an important time.
Saturday is a very important time for people who feel like they live in a red wave of everything to find out.
There are people out there who agree with you on things.
feel the same way you do about democracy and willing to work together.
And I love hearing those stories.
I especially love hearing the stories of small towns having good turnouts and people being really excited to see all the community
there.
pro-democracy.
That's what it's about.
Yeah, really.
It feels pretty simple, Jane.
Not that complicated.
It feels pretty simple.
Okay.
In the time that we have left before we go to the bottom of the hour news, this is a story, too, that we haven't had a chance to get to.
Reporters leave Pentagon en masse after refusing to sign onto new rules.
Pete Hegseth and the Department of Defense essentially wanted reporters to be stenographers.
Yes.
And you can only print things that we give you, and you can't investigate anything, and you can't report anything you didn't get from us.
And everybody refused to sign it, including Fox.
And Newsmax.
And Newsmax.
The only ones who signed.
The only media outlet that signed is OAN, One American
News.
Which is like, you know, oh cool our high school paper stuck around to report
things cool more than 30 members of the Pentagon press corps walked out of the building before a deadline Nancy Youssef a staff writer for the Atlantic a longtime Pentagon correspondent said this is a sad day for people who support a free press I'm incredibly honored to be part of a press corps that stuck together and is committed to protecting our first amendment rights
Defense Department cited security concerns and pointing forth these new regulations, including cutting media access to large parts of the Pentagon, where they were previously allowed to circulate.
I've seen different reports that say that Pete Hexeth just is so worried about people leaking about how incompetent he is.
is one of the reasons this is happening.
I mean, he doesn't really need the press to do it.
I mean, the problem is, when it comes to leaks, he invites the press in.
Let's look at his signal gate thing that happened.
He added a journalist to talk about top secret plans.
That's all kind of disappeared, too.
Of course it has.
And one of the things I saw when I watched the reporting was that they were afraid that news that is classified and unclassified will get out there.
Well, if it's classified, the reporters aren't going to report it because there are consequences, both just reputation as well as legal.
And national security.
And as far as I know, there hasn't been a huge problem with that happening, leaking classified information in the past.
So why all of a sudden now, I think it has more to do with the fact that he wants to protect
the Hegseth Pentagon from all detractors.
And honestly, kudos to Newsmax and Fox News.
They could have easily laid down.
I'm not surprised that Fox News walked out because
They have their moments.
We've seen their moments where you say, is someone gonna get fired for saying this on their airwaves?
But Newsmax, that was very, very surprising.
Haven't both Newsmax and Fox been fined millions and millions and millions of dollars for lying about voting machines?
They both paid out.
OAN is the only one who hasn't so far.
Not yet.
Not yet.
But I just find it interesting
that the
two outlets that already got spanked.
for essentially admitting they lied to their viewers, because that's what they did.
But they don't want to sign up.
I guess integrity shows up
in
interesting spots.
And this is just another example.
We talked about it, I believe, early on Monday.
George Stephanopoulos standing up to the vice president and just saying, we're done with the interview.
And whether it was a heartbreak or not, it was still an abrupt ending.
And it was basically in the face of lying.
And these are how you make the first steps.
And then did
you
see
Trump's
response?
No.
He wouldn't take a question from ABC
because
they were mean.
They don't like me.
They were mean.
He said 90 to 94 to 95 to 97% of all the press are against me.
Boy, that sounds like Hinge, baby.
They were mean to JD, so he didn't have to take their questions.
Alpha males, baby.
Tough, tough, tough
guys.
They're
tough.
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Good morning, JR.
Talk Greg.
Good morning to you.
Talk Greg off the ledge.
We can still come back.
We can still we can still move on Let me see
how I go Wow Greg Greg, I got you.
I got you.
Here's what we're gonna do.
All right.
We're
gonna go existential
We're going to go existential back in 2008.
This wasn't like why I don't think this was widely reported, but the Brewers had a really good team coming into the year 2008.
And in the opening game at Wrigley Field, they were up three, nothing late.
Their new closer Eric Gagne came in and he served up a three run home run to Kosuki Fukudomi and that sent the game into extras.
Ryan Braun coming off his rookie of the year season comes back to the dugout and he says, you know, it's not supposed to be easy.
It's not easy screaming at the players.
I don't I might be I'm paraphrasing but like it was so that was the sentiment and The Brewers went out they won that game barely they went on to have an incredible season.
They barely get into the playoffs They need to win on the last day of the season and the Mets have to lose and it's an incredible incredible run
That has always stuck with me for some reason because I look back on that and I feel like that's something you can extrapolate to Wisconsin sports in general when the Green Bay Packers went to the Super Bowl, they had to win their last two regular season games to even get into the playoffs and then they had to go to Chicago to beat the Chicago Bears and the NFC Championship game.
It was not supposed to be easy.
It was not easy.
They won the Super Bowl, won the Milwaukee Bucks.
They lost their superstar, Giannis and the Eastern Conference finals to an injury and it looked real, real bad.
And then they had to win that series without him.
They went down to nothing in the NBA finals to Phoenix and came back to win the, the championship in six games.
It was not supposed to be easy.
The Badgers beat the undefeated Kentucky Wildcats in the national semi-final.
I don't remember what happened after that, but they made it to the national championship game.
And they never stop being amazing.
They know, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I don't remember even the 96 Packers.
I do, but that doesn't fit my theme here, where they dominated everybody and won the Super Bowl without really much question at all.
But the point is, existentially as Wisconsin sports fans, nothing comes easily.
Everything comes after.
their backs are against the wall.
And if going down to nothing, going to Los Angeles facing a very dominant looking team with great starting pitching.
Yeah, it looks bleak.
It looks bleak.
But when it happens, when they rally, when they win this series, when they bring it back to Milwaukee, it is going to fit so neatly on the shelf with all the other championships that Wisconsin sports can hang their hat on.
It is going to be very, very special.
It might be the least probable of them all.
It's going to bring us so much joy.
That's what I got, Greg Bach.
I love that.
Let's
all embrace JR.
Yes.
Have you ever thought about starting a church?
I mean, that is some preaching, boy.
My goodness.
Holy cow.
You're like, send your tithes to JR Radcliffe.
I guess that's the thing that's always so, that's the thing that's troubling for me is that it feels like Wisconsin sports always has to work harder because
We don't have big bankrolls because we are, I mean, even though the Packers are the Packers, we're still at, we're a small market state.
We're not taking seriously.
I told you in my email this morning, I had to delete my Twitter account because I couldn't take these people from, and I don't want to get into it too hard here, but I couldn't take these people from Chicago just saying like the worst, meanest things about, like if the Cubs would have won.
I would have rooted for the Cubs, and I mean that, and I said this before, I would have rooted for my friends and family, for our division, for the Midwest, for the fact that while they're the Cubs, they haven't won a thousand World Series, and I would have rooted for Craig.
I'm sorry, I can't be, I can't continue to be mad at him.
But the opposite side of it, I mean, it's one thing to be like, oh man, I hate the brewers.
Oh man, the brewers suck.
But like this little brother, big brother energy narrative that they're bringing, it's like that's disrespectful.
They're world-class athletes.
And the language they're using.
And yes, the L flag picture was a dumb move.
That's going to follow them for a long time.
But it's just like, it's on top of the fact that we always seem to have to work harder, but also there are so many people who just seem to root against us as is.
because you're Milwaukee, you don't deserve it.
Even though we do, we at least deserve to be at the dance.
Yeah.
I think the, the disparity financially is, is a big storyline here between the Dodgers and the Brewers.
And, and I can't speak to the Cubs thing.
I haven't, uh, I, I would not take your high road and, and be pulling for the Cubs if they advanced.
I
mean, you
know, whatever, like they're, they're the rival.
And, uh, I don't know if I'd want to see the Dodgers roam into
the,
into the world series are fairly inoffensive as, as like a team.
It's just like the payroll is, is so high.
Um,
But but you know like The money is is so stark here like it's it's basically 350 versus less than a hundred million dollars on the active payroll and the guys who have started in this rotation who the two guys who shut them down for 17 of the 18 innings through games one and two are both on contracts that would you know easily make them in one case the highest paid player in Brewers history and in one case the the third highest second highest paid player in Brewers history, so it's
It's frustrating probably from that and knowing that they can't compete.
In that sense, they cannot swim in those waters.
They would not be after those players.
Those players probably wouldn't even look at Milwaukee.
And if they're all healthy, I mean, baseball is a pretty great equalizer.
There are many, many instances of teams that don't have a big payroll or aren't the favorite who go on and win in this game, even over a seven or five game series.
I they're all healthy, you know, like you kind of needed the Dodgers to not be healthy the way they are right now, especially with these four starters, three of whom have had all kinds of injury histories.
And, and, you know, at points this year, we're not available.
And now they are now they're all healthy and all looking really good.
Right.
That's a
That's kind of just unfortunate.
I mean, until they get a salary cap and there may very well be a work stoppage in 2027 to achieve that very end, there's really nothing the Brewers can do about that.
They've put forth their best, best foot they, that they possibly can.
They've won more games than they ever have before and they put themselves in position.
They're going to, they're going to need breaks.
Every team that wins a championship probably does, but especially a small market team.
They just need breaks.
They haven't gotten them in this series yet.
They still may.
They might not.
They probably won't.
They probably won't.
But, uh, that, that is, that is enough.
kind of unfortunate frustration of sports, of capitalism, and you kind of, you know, you kind of just ride the wave because there are enough instances in baseball in particular where it doesn't, you know, where the team that's spending less does win.
We'll see if that can happen for the Brewers here in LA.
If you're just joining us on Matt Nair on air, Milwaukee Journalist J.R.
Radcliffe is here to talk all things sports.
We're talking about the Brewers meeting the Dodgers in game three tonight out on the left coast.
I heard someone, I believe it was Mike Clemens when I was driving in this morning talking about how Christian Yellich hasn't had a hit in a really long time.
Do these people not wash Bull Durham?
The most comprehensive movie on baseball ever made.
Obviously his bat is cursed.
Obviously.
And Jacob Zyrowski is Nucleus.
It's a chicken bone cross.
I mean, that'll fix it.
Come on.
Get on it.
I mean, can they can they cross into a different baseball movie and have some Pedro Serrano magic to do whatever it is to uncurse, uncurse this bat?
I don't know.
He is over his last 17.
He has struck out five times in that stretch.
He has grounded out.
I think 10 or 11 times.
I don't remember which It's been it's been tough He doubled leading off game three against the Cubs and it hasn't happened since then and I know a lot of people now are kind of latching on to RBI's which is not is an imperfect stat to show somebody's you know effectiveness, but he had a home run in game seven of the two thousand
2018 nlcs against the Dodgers.
He has not driven in a run since then that covers multiple post seasons He was injured for a couple of those but uh, it is it is a fair chunk of games where he has not been driving in runs and That's it is a big problem.
It is um They need their middle of the bad guys to to be effective and christian Yelich has not been it.
This is
He's a guy who has had back injuries and the end of the season, you got to figure that's when the injuries are probably at their worst.
And so here we are at the end of the season and he has, he has not looked good.
I mean, Bryce Terrang did not look good through the club series.
And then he did hit a Homer, which was a pretty key Homer in game five.
I mean, I do think Yellich is still capable of doing that.
They still send him out there.
I would think there's probably an indication because they just haven't used Yellich in the field, even with Jackson Churio nursing a hamstring injury that they probably feel like there's something there or that it's just.
It's just not a good idea to put him out there.
So I, I, you know, all I can say is again, with the magic of baseball, he could go three for five today with a homerun.
It really is possible, no matter how big that sample gets in the, in the postseason, but it's been tough in the middle of the line.
If you can't afford to have a bat, you know, not, not being effective because the Dodgers are going to solve that their pictures are too good.
And right now that's unfortunately the case.
And, and I'm.
I know we're talking about the here and now in the playoffs are the playoffs and we can break up stats however we want, but I will say this that I feel like regardless of what happens in this series.
This was definitely a good year for Christian Yelich.
Like all, there was a lot of doubt.
There was a lot of, as you said, injuries happening.
And we kind of thought to ourselves, oh, is it time for him to be done?
He really came back this season to, I mean, he wasn't like the glorious Christian Yelich.
I don't think that we remember or we've created in our heads, honestly.
He's always been a good player.
He's been exciting, but...
This season, he has definitely come back to some glory and it's been fun to watch him play because he looks like he's having a good time.
And before last year was incredible.
He was having an incredible season before the back flared up, cost him the second half and knocked him out of the playoffs.
I mean, he even, even injured.
He was awesome.
This year, he is still very good, not awesome, but very, very good.
And I mean, he's 30, you know, in his thirties, like baseball players don't get better in their thirties.
Like he is absolutely fine for where he is in his age curve and, and.
you know, for, for where you would expect him to be.
So, uh, and also just a great leader, great philosopher.
When it comes to this stuff, he's, he's a really interesting guy to talk to.
Uh, he has a great perspective.
He's kind of that quiet, quiet.
It's the wrong word, but just like steady presence
that this clubhouse has
had, uh, him, him and Brandon Woodruff.
So there's, there's a hundred percent value to having him there, to having him in the lineup even.
So there's no, there's, there, and there's no one on the bench that's going to come out and like be.
Oh, that's the guy you want to replace Christian Yeltsin.
Like that guy doesn't exist.
This team doesn't have that.
So they just, they just need him to get some hits.
They need him to get some hits.
It's the big spots.
William Petraeus as well has been good, but not great in this postseason.
Like.
They just need their big guys to come through for a couple of big hits and all will honestly, if that happens, all will be forgiven.
All will be well.
We're talking about the two JR Radcliffe in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel all things sports.
With the time we have left JR Packers coming up against the Cardinals.
How are you feeling about that, Nacho?
Well, Packers should feel good about it.
There's again a situation where the quarterback might not play.
Kyler Murray has been really banged up.
He did not play last week.
We'll see about this week, but.
It's not trending great for him.
I mean, he's still he's still pretty hurt.
So that would that should be it should be a win.
I mean, a lot of these games should have been wins.
The Browns and Cowboys games included.
So we can't rule anything out.
They don't seem to have right now that ability to just kind of pull away or maybe maybe it's even will because they just don't seem to, you know, want to really put the put the foot on the neck there when they have an advantage.
But
You know, this is this is a game that they that they should win.
They're good.
There are not a lot of good teams.
Paul Noonan.
I'm sure we'll tell you this.
There's there's hardly any good teams in the NFL this year.
There's, you know, a lot of stats that we'll show you that's pretty bunched up this season.
The Packers are near the top or at the top of the teams in the NFL.
So.
going for one and one.
If they win this game, that's a really good record.
You know, there's no powerhouses this year.
So that would be a really good spot to be in as they finally then kind of get into the part of the schedule where the teams get a little bit better.
They've had a really nice stretch here.
Real quickly, JR, how badly will the Badgers lose on Saturday?
Oh, real badly.
I'm going to say, you know what?
I'm going to say it's only a three touchdown game that they show up a little bit more than they normally would because why not?
They got nothing to lose.
Ohio State's not interested in this.
So three touchdowns is all.
Man, you want to talk about a program that's down bad.
There's the one.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
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There are some very big projects coming down the road pun intended in Milwaukee that are going to make life a little more difficult.
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Calvin found this one from Vice, lucky Ashley Fike.
With the byline, the headline reads, woman.
swallows eight live frogs to cure her back pain.
And 82 year old woman in Hangzhou, China recently swallowed eight live frogs to cure her back pain.
This not surprisingly landed her in the hospital.
The woman only identified as Mrs. Zhang, separate from a herniated disc that caused persistent lower back pain.
I'm sure that was
Very uncomfortable.
Yeah, instead though of reaching for pain killers.
She turned to local folklore where They said eating live frogs Will relieve muscle and joint aches Without explaining why she asked members of her family.
Can you go catch some frogs?
They assumed she was gonna make frog legs.
No, that wasn't it
She swallowed three live frogs one day, five the next day.
Within days, she had a stomach ache so bad she could no longer walk.
She was rushed to the hospital, tests revealed.
She had a parasitic infection.
A tapeworm.
Oh, good lord.
Commonly found in amphibians and reptiles.
Dr. Wu Zhengwen says, quote,
Something we can all live by.
Swallowing live frogs damages the patient's digestive system and allows parasites to enter the body.
She spent two weeks getting special treatment before finally being discharged.
The doctor who treated her said he's seen it all.
People gulping down snakes, sipping raw fish, even taping frog skin to their bodies.
Oh my God.
Most of these folks are elderly.
He said they keep these remedies that they're using quiet until they're too sick to hide it.
PGA on the live stream has a very interesting comment.
He says, could have towed her.
That was a bad idea.
Yeah.
Where is it?
Thank
you.
It's it's it's very weird.
It's this just older folks relying on the traditional medicines.
I wouldn't suggest it endorse it.
But I'm like, I get that.
You're of a certain age.
You may think this could, whereas if someone in this country was like 20, try to be like, you are the biggest idiot on the, but like, but for some reason, I'm like, I give her reverence
for doing,
but then it's like, I have a stomach ache.
Of
course you do.
Just keep this in mind.
Wild frogs do contain compounds used in some traditional medicines.
Scientists have long warned eating live amphibians.
provide no proven health benefits.
What it does offer, as this woman found out firsthand, is a direct line to the emergency room.
Oh my gosh.
So, avoid swallowing live amphibians.
Unless you check with Bob Jr.
first, he'll probably say it's fine.
That wraps
up today's
episode
of... This shouldn't be a thing.
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