Don’t Get Your Info From Bob, Jr. (Hour 1)

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Don’t Get Your Info From Bob, Jr. (Hour 1)

Matenaer on Air · Wed Oct 15, 2025

Greg Bach

Good, good morning.

Welcome, welcome to Matinair on Air.

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Yep, we're going to game three.

Well, that's all that while we were always gonna have a game through but Boy, we're down a little that's all we're gonna say Yeah, there's another game tomorrow night

Jane Matinair

Yes, and today just take a break.

Just take a moment.

Greg Bach

I'm

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gonna go home tonight and I'm just gonna do anything I had to actually take Twitter off my phone because Like the commentary has become so vitriolic that it I don't understand how people can operate in a place where you

actively root against a team.

I don't root against anybody this much and it's like a vendetta.

I don't get it.

It

doesn't make me feel good.

So goodbye.

I'll come back to you in a month.

I

haven't, I'm not too engaged in baseball, but yeah, it's weird.

Normally I root for the team that beats us.

It's a little differently when it's a rivalry, I suppose, but being upset about it is a little odd.

Yeah, it's too much for my brain.

It's over the top.

Yeah,

I

mean, it's baseball.

And we were talking about this earlier, unless you work for the team, work for the league, work in the sports media or betting a lot of your money on it, it does not affect us.

I want the Brewers to win.

And if they don't, I will go, okay, that sucks.

Calvin Butenoff

Next season.

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Next season.

And my shoulders will slump a little bit, but.

life goes on.

But I certainly don't want to say like, I want the cubs or anybody

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just doesn't make sense.

Take a breath, people.

It's sports balls.

So yes, we have another game tomorrow night.

We will be broadcasting that across several

Civic media stations, including here in Racine and Kenosha, WRJN and WRCE in Richland, Center Game Three of the NLCS Brewers out on the left coast, taking on the Dodgers.

Our broadcast will start tomorrow at 4.30.

I believe the first pitch goes out a little after five, but 5.08.

We have a lot of stuff coming up on the show today.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely is gonna join us after the 9.30 news.

To talk about Bob Kennedy Jr., another interesting statement about circumcision, autism, and Tylenol.

Circumcision, autism,

Jane Matinair

and you.

Greg Bach

Yeah, exactly.

Dr. Lierly, by the way, has four sons.

And she's a doctor.

Jane Matinair

And a doctor doctor.

Greg Bach

Doctor doctor.

So I'm sure she has some opinions.

And maybe actually some, I don't know, scientific evidence.

Jane Matinair

She's a doctor of doctoring, making sure babies are properly doctored.

Yes,

Greg Bach

all those things.

She's

Jane Matinair

very, she's highly qualified to talk on

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this.

Yes, she is.

So, because she has a medical degree.

Yes, Dr. Kristen Liarley after the 930 News in hour number two, we're gonna start off talking about Speaker of the House Mike Johnson.

He's a good guy.

He's not upset.

about the actions of ICE, if you've seen any of the media coming out of Chicago, in particular, on some of the ICE raids.

And recently, I think it was last week, there was a pastor who was part of a protest outside of an ICE facility, and they shot him in the head with a pepper ball.

Yes.

Mike Johnson says that ICE isn't crossing any lines, but there's something that he found very threatening.

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That happened

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in

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Portland.

This is one situation, you know, he hasn't seen any evidence yet of ice overacting or overstepping their bounds.

They don't have bounds.

So you can't overstep what doesn't exist.

Pretty much.

But also I, you know, one thing I might have to agree with Speaker Johnson on this matter of what is the most very threatening, very threatening thing to ever happen in America's history.

You know, sorry, sorry, riots of the past days and all those other things and, you know, war and.

This is

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truly terrifying.

Yeah, it says so that's we'll kick off our number two talking about speaker of the house Moses Mike Johnson Also in our number two for the last half an hour.

We always lighten it up with a segment.

We call audio sorbet Take a breath get away from the news or as we put it audio sorbet We clean your ears with fun the question today specifically to guys.

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Okay.

Good guys.

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Do you pedicure?

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Do you pedicure?

Yes, no.

We'd love to hear your experiences with it.

Why you wouldn't ever.

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This

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is a thing.

We were talking about it before we went on the air.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So that is the question for Audio Sorbet today.

Guys, do you pedicure?

You can always text in your response right now if you're not going to be with us in hour number two at 855.

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We'll wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it is the Mothman cometh edition.

Stick around for that.

Wanted to start off though with a good news.

Yeah.

Yes.

From the president of the United States.

Guys, get ready.

This is great news, everybody.

Calvin, we have a clip from Donald Trump.

Let's play that clip, please.

Calvin Butenoff

You had the greatest inflating the last administration had the greatest inflation in the history of our country And now as you know groceries are down.

It's all down

Greg Bach

groceries are down groceries are down groceries are down.

They're all down The president who shops on a regular basis, I'm sure Mm-hmm said the grocery prices are down.

He said this yesterday so we can all relax.

Yeah, just take it easy folks

It's all good.

Buy an

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extra packet of cheese.

Treat yourself.

Greg Bach

Go crazy.

Buy an avocado.

Ooh.

That'll really be treating yourself.

The reality in grocery stores around the country seems to be slightly different than the president's reality.

I know.

That's shocking.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Mario Badola has worked for 40 years at a market in Chicago.

He estimates prices have risen there 20% this year and that customers are furious.

Madolo says quote they'll come in and say what the f it happens all the time.

Yeah, unquote Mm-hmm.

Yeah from week to week you go in and look at the prices It's kind of shocking.

Jane Matinair

It's shocking and they're not gonna come down and No president no president can control grocery prices as far as I know that is a private industry thing It's based on a bunch of why their prices are they how they are but

Well, tariffs play a

Greg Bach

role in

Jane Matinair

this.

Well, tariffs play a role in it.

Supply chains did during the pandemic.

The basic cost to productions cost prices to rise.

And I think everyone understands that, you know, your, I don't know, your, your mouthwash in 2015 is going to cost more in 2020 is going to cost more in 2025.

We understand it will grow up, go up a little bit, but these are significant price rises and the government.

the president can do nothing about it, therefore... Well, he could do something about the tariffs.

Well, but I'm talking about like businesses raising their prices.

I personally believe, and we've seen evidence of this in various stories, that they will use these times to raise their prices because people will immediately point their finger at the government and say, it's your fault or do something when that's not the case, how that really works.

And now we have art of, we have...

contributed to the price rise because of tariffs.

Yes, I absolutely agree with that.

But the businesses are the ones who also set their prices and they can throw a little extra in to pad their pockets.

Calvin Butenoff

And

Jane Matinair

by the way, these prices, a lot of them will never come down.

Some of them can be lowered, and the companies who sell them like a Target or an Amazon can lower their prices and take less of a profit, most likely not a lot.

And these companies aren't lowering their prices.

Greg Bach

Did that happen after the pandemic was finally over?

Did all of a sudden prices drop?

I don't recall that.

They know once you pay for it, you'll pay for it.

You'll keep paying for it.

Statistics from the Labor Department.

This would be a portion of the government that's run by Republicans and Donald Trump.

Labor Department data shows that over the 12 months ending in August, the price of coffee increased 20.9%.

Ground beef up 12.8% bananas.

6.6% increase dairy fruits and vegetables and cereals have all become pricier.

Round beef prices added 30 cents, rising to a record 632 a pound stakes up by more than a buck a pound.

But prices are down, everybody.

Donald Trump says so.

Jane Matinair

And the other thing too is we're now out of that.

We were, we talked about it last year.

The economy was actually doing really well last year.

Calvin Butenoff

The economy

Jane Matinair

not maybe not your I understand your kitchen table economy totally different discussion.

I understand that but the economy was doing well inflation was going down unemployment was down unemployment was down job creation was up Stock market had record gains.

You don't have to believe any of that But those are just facts facts don't care about your feelings, but the narrative they'll try to spin where they'll say

Well, this is Biden's economy.

We're no longer in that place anymore.

We are almost a year into his first, into a second administration.

Any failures, any problems, any, any price, these are on him.

These are on the policies.

These are on the companies that set the prices.

It's not Joe Biden.

It's not Barack Obama.

Don't even, I don't even, I don't want to see you blaming Jimmy Carter either, but it's it, it will never happen, but they will not take the responsibility ever.

Greg Bach

Well, good heavens the man doesn't take responsibility for anything.

Yeah, and never has So what about hacks?

What about grocery hacks?

Yes, there is an article from the every girl Which I know I subscribe to Some of her hacks to make the most out of your dollars when you're at the grocery store always shop with a list Mm-hmm avoid peak times, which I never thought about

She said if you go on a Saturday morning, which is typically very busy at the grocery store, then you might be grabbing things unnecessarily because I don't know shopping pressure.

I go to the store alone, which I just think is faster.

Jane Matinair

Yeah, we talked about this.

We talked about this in an audio survey and how do you shop?

And that's one of the reasons why I online shop at all because it's like, I don't feel any pressure.

Juan, you don't get distracted, right?

Ooh,

Greg Bach

maybe I'll make

Jane Matinair

that thing.

Never go shopping when you're hungry.

Yeah, that's a good... Yeah, I mean, I thought she meant that if you go at busy times, it's like search pricing for an Uber or something, but I mean, yeah, I wouldn't... I don't know if I call those hacks.

I would say a big hack is say, go to an Aldi or a place that sells...

Off-brand stuff that's still high quality that'll be a little bit cheaper.

Greg Bach

That's one of the ones is by generic.

Jane Matinair

No one will

Greg Bach

know.

Yeah,

Jane Matinair

and yeah, it's there's I mean, there's ways of shopping smarter and buy and bulk buy and bulk

Greg Bach

look at deals only for what you need Just because you have a coupon for five dollars off something if you're not gonna use it It's just gonna sit there even though it was on sale.

Yeah limit your deli meat and special cheese purchases

Shop with a store rewards card.

Stick to your grocery list.

Go with a list.

Yes.

And that goes back to one of our audio surveys as well.

Jane Matinair

That for me is like, I feel like the online shopping thing is the biggest hack for me because I am less inclined to buy the extra thing.

I just want to buy what I need to

Greg Bach

buy.

What's on the list?

Yeah.

Stick to the

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list.

I will say it.

I will recognize the elephant in the room right now.

Someone made the comment on the live stream that he said nothing about groceries, and that's true.

In that clip, he said nothing about groceries, but he has said groceries are down.

Energy is way down.

Was four or $5 a gallon of gas, now $1.99 for gas.

He has said those things on various accounts.

Groceries, gas, all those things are

Greg Bach

going

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down, energy, they're all going down.

He said he would cut energy by half.

That is not true at all.

No, and actually in

Greg Bach

some parts of the country, it's increasing pretty rapidly.

Energy costs.

Jane Matinair

Absolutely.

So, yes, I mean, you nailed us.

We heated.

Ow.

Ow.

It's only like, it's like I couldn't Google that.

Greg Bach

When we return, things got a little hot.

in the Wisconsin Assembly yesterday.

We'll kick that around.

Coming up next, some mics got cut and it again, it got a little testy.

All the details on the way stay with us.

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We were talking about the president.

of the United States yesterday.

I believe it was yesterday.

Talking about how prices are down, grocery prices are down.

Calvin, we have a clip from the president.

Can we play that clip, please?

Calvin (audio clip from the president)

You had the greatest inflation, the last administration had the greatest inflation in the history of our country.

And now, as you know, groceries are down.

It's all down.

Jane Natanair (host)

Oh, you see, he did say groceries are down.

My mistake, everybody.

Greg Bach (co-host)

I, you know, I was doing something like when we're on the show and I'm one of the producers, I'm sometimes typing in to find a thing or that thing.

And I'm listening to the clip and I didn't hear him actually say prices.

He did say prices, groceries that in that in that intimates prices.

It does kind of

Unknown (brief interjection)

like that.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Yeah.

Carrots are on the floor lower than before groceries are down and that's not the truth.

Yeah, no, it's not that would be Experts call that

Jane Natanair (host)

a lie.

Yeah, that would be a lie.

Hmm.

Okay.

Thanks for that clarification Moving on yesterday In the Wisconsin legislature Mm-hmm Divided as it passes a resolution honoring Charlie Kirk Charlie Kirk, of course

tragically assassinated.

This was a horrible, horrible thing that happened to Charlie Kirk about a month ago.

And so the Wisconsin Senate and Assembly passed a joint resolution honoring Charlie Kirk's life.

Debate was intense as Democrats said the resolution should have also included some of Charlie Kirk's more violent, more racist comments.

Greg Bach (co-host)

More incendiary.

Jane Natanair (host)

More incendiary.

Greg Bach (co-host)

More awful.

Jane Natanair (host)

The first iteration of the resolution offered by Senator Andre Jacques, focused on Charlie Kirk saying he dedicated his life to advancing the timeless principles of faith, liberty, and truth.

He was a dedicated, devoted husband and loving father.

The brutal and senseless act that claimed his life has shaken our hearts.

Absolutely, that was horrible.

That should never happen.

That should never have happened to the Minnesota legislature.

Legislator.

Yes.

Who was murdered in her home.

That shouldn't happen either.

Senator Mark Spritzer, a Democrat from Beloit said, this resolution does not mention political violence at all.

It's just about what a great guy Charlie Kirk was.

That is not what's going to bring 33 senators here today together.

What would have brought us all together is the universal condemnation of the assassination.

Senator Latanya Johnson of Milwaukee started her remarks by quoting Charlie Kirk nine times.

Quote number one, the American Democrat Party, this is a quote from Charlie Kirk.

The American Democrat Party hates this country.

They want to see it collapse.

They love it when America becomes less white.

quote number two if i'm dealing with someone in customer service who is a moronic black woman i wonder is she there because of her excellence or is she there because of affirmative action lasagna johnson then said which one of you is willing to stand up and admit that you and your constituents support this yeah but at one point chris larson who was also speaking uh he was also talking about this he was reading

about an article about the Elkhorn Associate Principal who got targeted after conservative influencers falsely claimed she made posts on social media about his death.

And at that point, Senate President Mary Felskowski cut off his microphone.

Yes.

Assembly voted 5442 to concur in the resolution after it was amended to condemn political violence.

and did include some of the language Democrats had in their proposal.

Can we agree that all political violence is bad?

Greg Bach (co-host)

You would think that that would be at the top of the list for at least this situation.

I didn't see anybody federal or state condemning political violence when Representative Hortman was murdered along with her husband.

We didn't do that.

In

Jane Natanair (host)

Heaven's, Paul Pelosi got attacked by a nut with a hammer in his home and they made jokes about Halloween costumes.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Yes.

So this is indicative of this country.

We'd rather take the bad parts and sweep it under the rug and say it never happened.

And the moment we try to say it happened, we say, no, it didn't.

Why are you trying to denigrate the fabric of America?

Let's get rid of everything in the Smithsonian that proves our absolute crimes against humanity.

Jane Natanair (host)

Exactly.

Let's just pretend the bad things never happened.

Greg Bach (co-host)

and go on.

Yeah.

We're just going to go on.

We're going to move on with our lives and pretend it.

And, and what's unfortunate.

You and I were talking about this is the fact that there are people out there who are like, who will say, I've heard of Charlie Kirk and there's nothing against that.

I mean, Charlie Kirk was a internet figure.

He was not millions of followers.

I don't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't call him mainstream.

He wasn't on network television.

So I can understand why people may have heard of him tangentially, but know that he,

Spotted some of the most heinous, disgusting things.

None of it out of context.

None of it misunderstood.

He was vehemently against anything that wasn't white, Christian, and national.

And he may have not said slurs, but you just listen to the words and it's all right there and you don't have to do a lot of

Jane Natanair (host)

digging.

that have been sacrificed on the altar of gun rights.

Greg Bach (co-host)

And gun rights is something that Charlie Kirk said needed to exist, even if death had to occur to secure those Second Amendment rights.

And Charlie Kirk also believed in the freedom of speech.

Correct.

Jane Natanair (host)

We have news coming up next, and then when we return, we're going to be joined by our friend and colleague, Dr. Kristen Lierly, circumcision, autism, and Tylenol.

That's all on the way.

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You think that the Packers are the world's team

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Yeah.

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Guess who's here.

We are very excited to be joined by our friend and colleague and host of the Dr. Kristen Lyrely Show.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely is here.

Good morning, my friend.

How are you?

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

Good morning.

I just happened to be right outside of Lambeau Field.

So what a great intro,

Matt Nair (Host)

huh?

We

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didn't

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

plan this.

Well, I live here.

So this is just another day in Green Bay, but it's awesome.

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It is awesome, and that movie tonight is going to be spectacular.

Again, it's the grand, the big premiere is tonight.

Join Todd.

Again, he's going to be broadcasting from the Majestic in Waukesha.

So stop out and see him.

Yes.

And say hello.

I'm sure he would love to meet you and say hi and all of those things.

All right, Dr. Kristen Lyrely, I texted you as soon as I saw this break.

I think it was last week because my head just went as it does so many days now.

We have a clip.

We have a clip, Calvin, from President Trump and the head of the Health and Human Services, Robert Kennedy, Jr.

From last week, let's play this clip, Calvin, please, for Dr. Lierling.

Audio Clip - RFK Jr.

I would say don't take Tylenol if you're pregnant.

And when the baby is born, don't give it Tylenol.

You can avoid it at all.

Just don't give it Tylenol.

Audio Clip - Donald Trump

Really, what do you have to lose?

You don't have much to lose.

There's many, many other confirmation studies.

There's two studies that show children who are circumcised early have double the rate of autism.

It's highly likely because they're given Tylenol.

None of this is positive.

Audio Clip - RFK Jr.

All of

Audio Clip - Donald Trump

it, we should be paying attention.

Audio Clip - RFK Jr.

You were talking about the Pennsylvania Dutch.

You were talking about the Amish.

where they don't take any of this stuff and they have virtually none, right?

They have no autism, no autism.

Greg Bach

I have a really quick question.

When he says this isn't, there's no positive outcome.

And I'm, doctor, I'm asking you, do you think he means positive as in positive proof or positive good?

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

Who knows what he means?

I mean, if you were to ask him, like, why shouldn't we take Tylenol?

Can you cite a source?

He would have no, nothing to share because he doesn't know.

He has just been told this.

There's nothing to back it up.

Even when Kennedy says circumcision probably related to Tylenol, the two studies that he's likely referencing had nothing to do with Tylenol.

They actually looked at

pain related to circumcision and they made the assumption that these babies were given Tylenol.

It's not even in the study.

So what these guys are doing is using their incredibly huge platform to spread

information that is not at all validated and that is frankly harmful.

If pregnant people are afraid to use Tylenol, if new parents are afraid to use Tylenol for their babies who have fevers, there are real consequences here.

People suffer.

They're in pain.

They have untreated fevers that can lead to further problems including seizures and long-term rape repercussions.

Use Tylenol, but use it judiciously, and use it with the advice of your health care provider.

Do not get your health care advice from RFK Jr.

and Donald Trump.

Greg Bach

What does it say, though?

I mean, this is nothing new now at this point in this year.

What does it say when we're saying out loud, don't get your health information from the Department of Health and Human Services?

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

Who said that?

That is like almost a direct quote from RFK Junior.

Don't get your health information from me.

Yet, last week, Kaiser Family Foundation study came out that showed that it is entirely partisan.

Republicans do tend to trust RFK Junior and the Trump administration with health information, and Democrats and independents generally don't.

So to see the power

partisan divide in the way that we consume this information as a doctor who treats everybody.

I don't care who you vote for.

Come to my office.

I want to hear what you have to say.

I want you to know your options so that you can get the care that works for you.

But to know that people are thinking of this in a partisan way.

And so many of these people also will say, I don't want politics involved in this.

Yet it still influences their thinking and their decision making.

This is so profoundly troubling.

Matt Nair (Host)

Yes.

And Dane.

It is dangerous.

And in that same conference, Bob Kennedy Jr.

essentially said, we are going to find the proof and then we'll back it up with studies.

So they're doing science backwards.

You don't fight, you don't, this is the outcome we want.

So let's.

craft studies to give us the outcome we want.

That's not how you science.

But that's Project 2025.

It is.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

Well, you have an outcome that you are trying to prove and that's how politics works, right?

You are trying to sell somebody a message.

But how medicine works and how science works is you have a hypothesis.

What you think is going to happen and then you design a study around that and there are lots of different kinds of studies that work in different ways and give us different kinds of information and it's complicated.

But that's why you need somebody to help you interpret the information that comes out of these studies.

You can't just look at the title or the

conclusion, you have to understand the methods.

You have to understand the population that was studied.

You have to understand the study design.

And then you have to look at other studies that studied things and pull all that information together in order to make some sort of a recommendation for our patients.

This is not easy stuff.

And this is why people like Donald Trump and RFK Jr.

are not qualified to share this

Matt Nair (Host)

kind.

They really aren't.

They are not qualified.

Kristen, we got you frozen there.

Now you're back.

There you are.

Yeah, they are so massively unqualified to talk about anything medical.

It's terrifying.

And you have four sons.

By the way, if you're just joining us on matinee or on air, Dr. Kristen Lyrely is our guest, our friend and colleague and host of the Dr. Kristen Lyrely Show, which we're going to talk about right after the break.

You have four sons.

Let's talk about circumcision and... and... why?

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

Yeah, circumcision is a deeply personal decision that everybody who has a baby boy has to make a decision whether to do it or not.

And some people choose to do it and some people don't.

And there are risks and benefits either way.

But it has nothing to do with autism.

The studies haven't even looked at Tylenol.

circumcision and autism.

And the information that's out there is so all over the place.

And this is one of those really tender topics that people feel emotional about.

When we have our national conference for the American College of OBGYNs, protesters show up at the front door wearing white bunny suits with a splotch of red where their groin is.

And they like literally will approach us as we're walking in and out of the conference.

These are people who feel very strongly.

So RFK and

look at this and they recognize that there is an in here that makes people uncomfortable and then they go for that.

That's politics, not healthcare.

Well, and

Matt Nair (Host)

there is a very religious element to circumcision as well, correct?

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

Yeah, it's a very strong part of the Jewish faith, and it's done in a very different way when it's done as part of a religious ritual.

But you know, again, regardless, the data that RFK Jr.

is referring to does not support the conclusion that he has drawn.

There is no connection between circumcision and autism.

Greg Bach

And that was the point I wanted to make too, is that when you watch the clip,

you get the at least the somewhat context that he's saying those who had circumcision and given Tylenol have a double chance of getting autism double the chance of getting autism i feel like

What's also being done with this narrative is that people are just pulling the Tylenol aspect out of it and just saying circumcision causes autism.

And that is ultimately the problem too.

And you said that the study that he's referencing doesn't prove anything.

Well, the study that said that vaccines cause autism didn't prove anything either.

And we're still talking about it like 20 years later.

And that and as you mentioned, when those bunk studies that are based not on theories, based on pure terrible hypotheses,

are given to people with power and a platform, that's all you need, because that's the guy I like, that's the guy I trust, and he said the thing, so I know the thing.

The thing happened.

But what about the evidence?

I don't need that.

The guy said the thing.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

I mean, can I also just add, we've all seen the Time Magazine picture by now.

I'm a gynecologist, and that makes me uncomfortable.

Greg Bach

Dr. Kristen Lyerle.

Do you just came

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

in there with a- I don't know how to treat that.

Greg Bach

It's called a scarf.

No, no, you know what?

Matt Nair (Host)

You know

Greg Bach

what it is?

It's called therapy.

Matt Nair (Host)

I can't.

Public floor therapy.

He referenced in that clip that we played, Donald Trump referenced the Amish community.

From what I understand, Dr. Lyerle,

The Amish do not take part in studies.

They do not report, right?

They don't report.

No one is wa... No one is... There is no oversight body to look at the health of the Amish community because they don't science in the same way.

I

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

don't know why he brought the Pennsylvania Dutch into this, and they are an entirely different body of people.

But it brings me back to a point I made earlier, which is that when you are studying a group of people, you need to be very thoughtful about who these people are, how many of them are there, what are their characteristics.

How old are they?

All of that stuff matters, because if you're comparing apples to apples, you're talking about a 50-year-old man and a 50-year-old man who come from the same community, who have the same upbringing, who have the same risk factors, you can compare those two people.

But if you're comparing somebody, a 20-year-old man from the Pennsylvania Dutch community, to a 65-year-old man from Okanto Falls, Wisconsin, these are different populations.

You can't compare those two things.

Matt Nair (Host)

Yep, got me completely different diets, completely different lifestyles.

There's so many factors that

play into that.

Debbie on the live stream has a comment.

Trump suggested to shoot bleach in our veins for Pete's sake.

I still don't understand why anyone in their right mind listening to anything these crazy guys with their crazy ideas and thoughts have to say.

Yeah.

Thanks

Dr. Kristen Lyrely

cousin Debbie.

And I do want to point out part of their grand plan.

Yeah.

And I do want to point

Matt Nair (Host)

out by the way that Donald Trump when he had his

second yearly review within five months that we all do.

He got a COVID booster shot, by the way.

Greg Bach

Oh, that's right.

Yeah.

Matt Nair (Host)

Donald Trump did get a booster, a COVID booster and a flu shot.

So he's going to be magnetic just like me.

Hopefully one day soon.

I was promised.

Gotta let that go.

Dr. Kristen Lierly is our guest.

We're going to continue on the other side.

Stay with us.

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Good morning.

Welcome back to Matt Nair on air.

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You can also leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter.

We're joined by our friend and colleague and host,

of the Dr. Kristen Liarley show.

Dr. Kristen Liarley is here.

Let's talk about your show.

You have a show?

You have a show.

I

Dr. Kristen Liarley (guest)

have a show.

It's statewide on the Civic Media Radio Network at noon on Saturdays.

Isn't that exciting?

Jane Matt Nair (host)

That's fantastic.

Well deserved.

Who are you talking to this

Dr. Kristen Liarley (guest)

week?

This week, we're talking with Dr. Pat McBride.

You may know him as a researcher, as the former dean of the students of the University of Wisconsin Medical School.

That's how I got to meet him.

But as it turns out, he had this fascinating history.

And one of my favorite things about him is he was the first bat boy for the Milwaukee Brewers when they came to town in 1969.

Wow.

So

Jane Matt Nair (host)

we

Dr. Kristen Liarley (guest)

had an amazing conversation.

about the brewers and all the people he met and how Bob Uker took him fishing and all of these great stories.

It is such a delightful conversation.

He talks about the 82 brewers.

He talks about crazy Robin Yacht and Uker stories.

It is just so much fun and we're all rooting for the brewers.

So this is, this will get you pumped up.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

that's great that is that is so great the fact that he was one of the first bat boys when they came back to town that's amazing the history just the history that he's seen oh

Dr. Kristen Liarley (guest)

yeah he was the clubby for the opposing team at county stadium so he met

Hank Aaron and like all of these legendary baseball players as they came through Milwaukee and then interestingly not related to the Brewers he ended up becoming the equipment manager for the Bucks so he has a Bucks

World Championship ring from 1971, and he helped up the Packers when they were in Milwaukee back in the old gold package days.

So those were the World Champion Green Bay Packers.

So he is going to sprinkle a little charm on our brewers to bring them into the World Champion fold.

That is the magic.

Greg Bach (host)

That is very, very, very cool.

You know, my grandmother worked at County Stadium from basically its construction until.

she retired in the early nineties and she has all she had all I wish I could have sat down with her a long time ago and wrote down the story because they weren't long-winded stories but she met all

Jane Matt Nair (host)

little

Greg Bach (host)

nuggets and they knew her and she was Ruth and the and she's like the boys were so nice and she was there when they filmed major league and it was just a lot of fun so yeah I love those stories and I just want to make a clear regarding the Dr. Kristen Lila show you can also watch it on YouTube

It's also available there as well.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

So check that out.

You can follow it as a podcast.

Yes.

Like you do all of the shows.

If you want to download us as a podcast, you can do that too.

Speaking of the Brewers, they are on the left coast tomorrow night Dodgers hosting our broadcast.

We'll start tomorrow at 4 30.

You can listen to the game on terrestrial radio only on WISS in Oshkosh.

WCQM in Park Falls, WBZH in Hayward here in Racine and Kenosha on WRJN.

The Brewers at the Dodgers, our broadcast tomorrow will start at 4.30, the first pitch, going out about 5.08.

We are talking to our friend and colleague and host of The Dr. Kristen Lierley Show.

Now Saturdays at noon, we were having some technical difficulties.

Dr. Lierley, are you still there?

Dr. Kristen Liarley (guest)

I'm still here.

Sorry.

I'm sitting in a parking lot outside of Lambeau Field.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Not a problem.

Not a problem.

We don't have a lot of time.

We just got a couple of minutes left before we have to go to the top of the hour news.

But briefly, legislation in Wisconsin would require health insurers in the state to cover infertility.

Do you think that's going to go anywhere?

Dr. Kristen Liarley (guest)

No, not in this group, but I think that there's potential.

So I think a lot of the things that they're starting to introduce now are things that they want to get done and they see hope for.

if, when we have a Democratic trifecta come next November.

So if we've got a Democrat in the governor's seat and we've got a Democratic assembly and a Democratic Senate, we can get some stuff done.

So they're already starting to make plans and that is one of those plans.

And let's be honest, infertility is a medical problem.

Poor men.

and for women.

For people who want to start their families, they need information.

They need to be able to access their doctor.

They need to be able to get testing.

This stuff needs to be covered.

So I fully support this.

And I think it has a real chance, not in this session, but let's play the groundwork so that we can get it done next year.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Well, that would be great.

Because again, if we expect the Republicans to pass this, they're in a tough spot now because the whole pro-life movement is very against.

infertility treatments from as far as everything that I've read because of the leftover eggs that you have to either dispose of or whatever.

So yeah, if we want to see something get done addressing people's infertility concerns, it's going to take more Democrats.

Greg Bach (host)

But they want babies, babies, babies, babies, babies.

Dr. Kristen Liarley (guest)

Well, this infertility thing really exposes what their motives are, doesn't it?

Greg Bach (host)

Like, do you

Dr. Kristen Liarley (guest)

actually want people to get health care?

Do you actually want people to have healthy pregnancies and hospitals where they can deliver their babies?

Or do you just want to control them?

pretty clear if they are saying have babies, but they're not getting you the resources to be able to have babies, they don't actually want that for you.

Greg Bach (host)

Oh, great.

Absolutely.

And I think that the, the, the group of Southern Baptists that came down earlier this year and voted in no longer to support IVS really gave away the ball game on that one because when, when Dobs came down.

It was pretty universal, everyone still said, but IVF is great.

We love IVF because people, Republicans, Democrats, independents, a lot of people benefited from it.

And then all of a sudden, those cracks started to show.

And IVF was all of a sudden the enemy.

And I think you're right, Dr. Lyley, I think that they want people to get pregnant and let go with God.

And if it doesn't happen, that's not our problem.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Join Dr. Kristen Lirely for the Dr. Kristen Lirely Show Saturdays at noon across the network.

Thank you so very much, my friend.

Really appreciate your time.

We will talk soon.

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Well, and the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

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So stay tuned for that.

Wanted to start off with a little discussion about the No Kings protest, which is set for this Saturday around the country.

Matt Nair

Yes.

Jane Matt

The last one that they had, which was what a month ago, a little more than a month ago.

I

Calvin Butenoff

think a little bit more

Jane Matt

than a month.

Got millions of people turning out.

Calvin Butenoff

That happened actually.

No, June.

Jane Matt

Oh,

Calvin Butenoff

it was in June.

It was

Jane Matt

in June.

But yes, there is another No Kings rally set forward this Saturday all across the country.

And the Republicans are not happy about this.

Really, Jane?

Oh, my

Calvin Butenoff

God.

Jane Matt

No, it's this is people who hate the it's people who hate America.

Calvin Butenoff

Oh, it's that simple.

It's that cut and dry.

There's no

No nuance, no details, no gray, no nothing.

It's just you hate America.

Jane Matt

Tom Emmer told Maria Bartiromo on faux news, these guys are playing to the most radical, small, violent base in the country.

You will see them on Saturday.

They just do not love this country.

There have been protests ongoing in a number of cities around the country, especially in Portland.

Calvin Butenoff

Oh my goodness.

Jane Matt

Lots going on in Portland.

If you watch any social media, you have seen people dressed up in inflatable costumes.

Matt Nair

Yes.

Jane Matt

Lots of frogs.

Lots of frogs.

Lots of frogs in inflatable frog costumes.

Calvin Butenoff

Which is funny because that whole edge lord 4chan movement.

used a frog for their yep.

Oh, wow.

I know that.

I feel, are they taking it back?

Are they taking it back?

Reclaiming frogs.

Because honestly, it's Pepe the frog.

The Republicans are ready to deport Pepe the frog.

They're gonna get rid of them.

They're gonna keep them.

Here's ours.

Jane Matt

Stephen Colbert's show had a little response from what they're calling the Portland frogs.

Because again, Republicans very, very upset about the

protests going on in Portland with people dressed up as inflatable animals so as the opening for the Colbert show Calvin let's play that clip please the Portland frogs fight back

Greg Bach

and now a response from the leader of the frog

Stephen Colbert Show Clip

resistance

It was hilarious.

Calvin Butenoff

Yes, and I must say...

To the Hillsborough hops or the Portland Pickles, the two minor league teams in Portland, please next season, have one night be the Portland Frogs.

The Portland Frogs.

That would be

Jane Matt

amazing.

They got a big following.

There's

Calvin Butenoff

hop into

Jane Matt

that game.

Big following.

We bring this up.

Yeah.

Because again, we're hearing.

Pretty much the whole, we're hearing the same line now from Republicans about this No Kings rally on Saturday.

It's people who hate America.

I know people who are going to this rally.

I'm pretty sure they don't hate America.

Calvin Butenoff

Well, just to give a bit, you know, we were talking about the numbers here and there was, you know, it was all over the country.

It was in more than 2,100 towns.

It was cities across the US.

They estimate between five to six million people took part in these, in these protests, these peaceful protests through the streets of this country, all over America.

And I bring that up because I will never forget this one number that came up when we were looking at all of the different rallies in Wisconsin, because we had someone call saying, I'm in, I'm a blue dot in a red wave.

And that's not true.

I don't think so.

There are people out there in your neighborhood who think like, you just don't know them.

And maybe some people are afraid to say something, but these

These are not only great ways to voice your, your voice, your opposition against the powers that be, but it's also great for connecting with people who think alike, who can come together and share and feel safety.

But the point was, is that in Spooner, Wisconsin, in June, at the no Kings rally, we're talking, you know, LA had great numbers, Chicago had great, Milwaukee had great numbers.

Spooner, Wisconsin, think about this.

Spooner, Wisconsin had 300 people.

300 people at their rally.

That is mind-blowing and beautiful.

And I love that.

And those people do not hate America.

And if your gut reaction is to see people marching into the streets for a better country, if your first thought is they hate us, that's something for you to deal with.

Because at the very least, you should be saying, I support their right to march.

I support their right to speak.

It's the first amendment.

That is the basic fabric of this country.

We've been talking about for 200 and almost 50 years at this point.

And it, it, it absolutely infuriates me that our quote leaders are getting up there and just flippantly saying they hate America.

Jane Matt

What?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure most of the folks who are planning to go to the No Kings Rally on Saturday do not hate America.

Calvin Butenoff

Because those folks who are marching, whether you like it or not, and I'm talking to the mega supporters who are

people who own the HVAC companies, and people who work plumbing, and people who have a desk job, and people who are the cops, and whomever is giving us your time right now, and thank you very much, even though you disagree with us, they're marching for you too, because this affects all of us.

We talk about it all the time, and I'm kinda getting tired of saying it, but it's the truth.

At the end of the day, we're all the same in their eyes.

None of us are billionaires.

None of us are millionaires, most likely.

We don't have the ability to pay for a congressman by legislation.

Buy a Supreme Court justice.

Take a billionaire to lunch.

We are hardworking folks.

Whether you're middle class, working class, you're working poor, wherever you are, we are the same in that sense.

And they're marching for you because your rights are just as important as theirs.

And if you don't want to march, that's fine.

But they're doing the heavy lifting.

They do not hate America.

They love this country and they should be celebrated.

Jane Matt

Absolutely.

Saturday's No Kings Rally, we're hearing the same message coming from Republicans that everyone who attends is all Antifa that hates America.

Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson was asked yesterday about some of the looks like really extreme behavior by ICE, especially in Chicago.

Yes.

and the way they are treating some protesters there.

There was a minister who was protesting outside of an ICE facility who was not engaged in violence.

He was standing outside the facility with several other people and they shot him in the head with a pepper ball.

Mike Johnson was asked about that.

Calvin, we have a clip from the Speaker of the House.

Can we play that clip please for Mike Johnson?

Greg Bach

Demand oversight on federal law enforcement.

Well, I've not seen them cross the line yet and that we have a jurisdiction who have that responsibility But it's not risen to that level what I've seen is the abuse of law enforcement by radical leftist activists You know most recently the most threatening thing I've seen yet was the naked bicyclers in Portland who were protesting ice down there I mean, it's getting really

Jane Matt

ugly

I don't dispute, it was, their ride had been ugly.

Hey.

As part of the naked bike ride.

We're all

Calvin Butenoff

beautiful.

Jane Matt

Well, sure.

But, that's your biggest concern.

A bunch of naked people, and it was raining last weekend in Portland, it was cold.

Yeah.

Tom Hartman's talked about it on his show.

Yeah, it's.

It was rainy and cold, and yet the people in Portland, keep Portland weird, came out for a naked bike ride.

Greg Bach

All he

Jane Matt

did was ride their bicycles.

Yep.

They weren't threatening anybody.

They weren't armed.

It was kind of easy to tell.

Calvin Butenoff

But Jane, we got to remember that as you were speaking to, you referred to him as Speaker Moses, Mike Johnson.

This is a man who has an app on his phone with his son, where they can police their each other's phone usage on what websites they go to.

I have no doubt in my mind that the that the.

idea of people bicycling unclothed through the streets of Portland is a horrifying image

Greg Bach

to him

Calvin Butenoff

or unlock some other image that I don't want to get into right now but still come on though I mean even even from your side of it like like

You could say the amount of babies being murdered by abortion you could say so many things but no the naked bike ride is the is the thing in the moment it is By the way, it's crossing the line Greg.

By the way, Jane.

Let's just make a point here If the naked bike ride through Portland is one of the key aspects that represents the horrific nature of Antifa, what does that really say about Antifa?

Jane Matt

855-752-4842, if you would like to join the conversation.

If you're planning on going this Saturday,

Greg Bach

we

Jane Matt

would love to hear from you.

Brett in Brown Deer, texting and listening on WAUK.

I will be at the protest again.

If I didn't love my country, I wouldn't have served it for 12 years in the U.S.

Army, has been fighting fascism for 250 years.

Thank you, Brett.

And thank you for your service,

Calvin Butenoff

truly.

Jane Matt

Absolutely.

855-752-4842.

Gene from Eau Claire on the line.

Good morning, Gene.

What do you want to say about this?

Gene from Eau Claire (caller)

Oh, thank you so much for covering it.

Great show today, guys.

You know, all the people, all the people that are out there in the numbers, you can't pay that many people to protest.

Matt Nair

Right?

Yeah.

Gene from Eau Claire (caller)

And they do not want.

People to see that their brothers and sisters and their neighbors and cousins and everybody's out there saying we don't like this Then maybe they'll start doubting some of the lies that are told of them and in addition I think don't many states you have to have a license to practice medicine

because I don't think God, those two, yeah, who's have them in the White House.

So thank you and keep up the great work and go guys.

Thank you for protesting.

Bye.

Thanks a

Calvin Butenoff

lot, Gene.

Appreciate it.

I will have the No Kings website on the show notes for you today.

If you want to find out what's going on, there are seriously just look at the map, the dots on the map for all the events happening this weekend at the event.

Also, it's a great, I mean, I'm going to use this a plug real quick.

Get the Civic Media app, put it on your device.

If you're at the protest this weekend, seriously, take pictures and text them into us.

Like, not even just the show, to the network.

We wanna see what's going on.

If you see something happening, take video, send it to us.

And if it's important we need to talk about, we will talk about it.

Jane Matt

The other thing though, and I'm glad you mentioned that, if you see someone acting out, trying to start violence, you gotta step in and stop it.

Calvin Butenoff

Well, and also I know,

Pretty sure.

I'm like 99% sure that the No Kings website has ways to deal with those who are trying to be agitators.

There are methods, you know, people will stop their movement.

So they can, you can say, Oh, these individuals who aren't moving aren't part of this, that this person is causing, those people are causing the problem.

Take that into heart because in a movement like this for such a huge event, they are going to be looking for anything to say,

Look, the violence, the violence, the Antifa, all that stuff.

So

Greg Bach

we

Calvin Butenoff

keep it peaceful, we keep it moving, and also keep it respectful.

And keep it light.

Yeah, have

Jane Matt

fun, make a cool sign.

Get an inflatable frog costume.

Put some sparkles on your sign.

I'm thinking about unicorn.

Jane, if you get a... Oh, Jane, if you get... See if I can find one before Saturday.

We'll continue this on the other side.

Stay close.

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We are talking about the No Kings rally that is set for this Saturday.

Republicans pretty much uniformly saying these are all people who hate America that are going to be out on Saturday.

I don't know that that's exactly accurate.

Carolyn in Heartland texting in, yes, we will be in economy walk at 11 o'clock.

And then Waukesha at 1 PM for No Kings.

Dan from Wausau listening on WXCO says, bring your American flag to the protest and show how we love America.

Make sure no one disrespects it.

Absolutely.

Julie and Wausau, I will definitely be at the No Kings protest on Saturday in Wausau.

I think the most patriotic thing we can do is to hold our country accountable to the ideals voiced in our Constitution.

Well said, Julie.

Absolutely.

Well said.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

I hope all of you have the Civic Media app.

And, or you know what?

Honestly, like, even if you don't have it, I'm not trying

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

to

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

take a picture, take a picture and you can text it to, to us as well.

It's that easy.

It's that simple.

We just want to see all the events.

And yes, a lot of coverage will happen in the big cities, but I want to see those small towns.

I want to see those villages

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

on incorporated

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

areas.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

It

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

kind of turned out she's, I, if I see three people in a place as a population of 300, I'm going to be like, yes, here we go.

Because that's what makes it special.

And

I would love to know between the election to January, to June, to that, to the, I'm sorry, let me say it again.

I'd love to see the election, to the inauguration, to June's protest, to now, how many people who voted for Donald Trump are now joining that movement saying, no, don't say you are wrong.

I'm not needing that, as Will Westmoreland said.

Just say you were lied to,

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

and that's when the work

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

starts.

There, I would love to see how many people are there with signs saying, it's me, I'm the problem, it was me, and they're there to be a part of the solution.

Pam Bondi.

Oh God, we were having fun.

Pam

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

Bondi, our attorney general.

And congressional yell or adder.

Yes.

Said on, I believe it was faux news, what a shock.

Quote.

This is one of the things about Antifa.

They're very organized.

You're seeing people with thousands of signs that all match.

Someone is funding it.

We're going to get to the root of Antifa and we're going to find and charge all of these people who are causing this chaos.

Yeah, Pam.

I got a little tip for you.

If you actually go to the No Kings website, which we will include in our show notes.

They have a list of suggestions for signs.

Yeah They're not being printed up and handed out Like the ones that were handed out at Donald Trump's rallies that said mass deportation now like those were printed up and funded correct, but I think people are making their own signs.

Yes,

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

and The other thing that's important about these types of protests that are while all over the place but connected by one group essentially

is that the language has to be right because if we see incendiary, vulgar, those hateful language, it then, it, it

Sully's the message and they become that sign becomes the story not the movement So they want it's to stay on brand and stay on message and but also have some fun.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

Have some fun

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

Put some sparkles on there Maybe someone should go buy a unicorn costume at a store today Jane and expense it to the company because it's called research

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

Walmart has him a inflatable joy joy fee inflatable costume unicorn for $33.99.

I will give a lot of money to charity to see that But

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

yeah

It's it's anything they can do and and honestly like it's just It's exhausting and unfortunately as as Andrew Watkins once has said before this is not the fringe people These are our leaders.

Yes, and they have the voice in the platform and we have to listen to them incessantly drone on about lies and Misgivings misinformation disinformation you pick it This is how you stand up period

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

it's got the scent

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

another

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

one

said, quote, this crazy no Kings rally this weekend, which is going to be the farthest left, the hardest core, the most unhinged in the Democratic Party, which is a big title.

Scott Bassin said, no Kings equals no paychecks,

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

unquote.

I thought the federal government shutdown equals no paychecks.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

So unless we give

Donald Trump unlimited powers to do everything that he wants to do which he thinks he can pretty much do anyway.

Mm-hmm Nobody gets paid.

I don't understand what that means.

So we're gonna I read just give him a crown Yeah, sure.

I mean, we'll just look just give him a Nobel Peace Prize.

Just give him one mm-hmm

Just find something.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

The, you know, the groups of people who are like, participation awards are making us soft.

I really want

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

to be this guy.

A lot

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

of participation awards.

So, uh, yeah, I don't even know.

I'll give, I'll give Scott percent one piece of credit here.

Lisa referred to it as the Democratic Party, not the Democrat Party.

Good point.

But I don't know what that means.

I mean, the, the hardest, like, what does it say?

The, the farthest left, the hardest core, which I hate that same sentence, the most unhinged in the Democratic Party.

I can't wait for some 74 year old grandma to be like, look at, look at, look at Betty.

Betty is the farthest left.

Jeannie from Eau Claire, the hardest left, the

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

worst of core, the

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

Democratic party of titles, the no kings of equal paychecks.

I'm just, whatever.

It's just word salad and blah.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

This is our opportunity.

to buy silly inflatable costumes and wear them in public and it's not Halloween.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

I'm talking to you, upper management expense this one.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

We're doing research.

Inflatable unicorn costumes, I think for everyone.

Greg Bach (Co-Host)

Yes.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

We have news coming up next.

And then when we return, we will lighten it up with audio sorbet.

So stay close.

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Absolutely, and if you can leave a comment as well if you're watching in the live stream Good morning live stream.

I live stream on Facebook YouTube and what used to be Twitter This is the portion of the show that we call audio Sorbet where we lighten things up get away from the news Essentially, we attempt to clean your ears with fun.

So here is today's audio Sorbet question We were talking about this as we were putting the show together this morning

Guys, specifically, do you pedicure?

Have you ever had a pedicure?

855-752-4842.

Have you ever had a pedicure?

That is our today's audio sorbet question.

I think a lot of women do.

You go for a manly petty.

I have talked to a couple guys who have gotten pedicures and they loved it.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Loved it.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Yeah.

I would also, I mean, I know we're directing this towards guys, but I'd like to know if you don't.

Why?

Why not?

And the reason why I asked is specifically for, and I'm not going to, I'm going to call you out Calvin, but it's because I love and I want to share and I want to connect with people.

But there's a specific reason why you've never done it.

And it's not what I think

Calvin (board operator)

people would expect

Greg Bach (co-host)

from guys.

Calvin, why is it that you have not gotten a pedicure ever?

Calvin (board operator)

Well, I can't say this is the sole reason or the sole reason the primary reason nice But I have ticklish feet and I kind of worried about

Greg Bach (co-host)

there

Jane Matt Nair (host)

you go understood I get that yeah, I get that completely.

They're pretty good about that Yeah, once you know if you go to that I go to the same person and have for a long time and I'm really ticklish to Kelvin.

Yeah, but he will

Be very careful.

Yeah, not to make me

Greg Bach (co-host)

lose my mind and if they start tickling you get up and walk out You didn't pay for that.

You did not pay for that at

Jane Matt Nair (host)

all.

No, if you tell them, you know If you tell them just be careful, I'm really ticklish.

They'll probably do that 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 have you ever had a pedicure guys in particular just curious It's a good thing.

I think you would like it.

I really do.

Yeah

No, Dave, you're not on my bed sheet.

I don't understand where that came from.

I don't either.

No, not at all, Dave.

What happened?

We love you.

We love you, Dave.

We love you, Berlin.

Dan from WASA on WXCO.

I've never had such a thing.

Not that there's anything wrong with that in a Seinfeld voice.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Yeah.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Andrew from Maine, listening on WAUK.

I've had a pet cured, but it wasn't a boy dog.

Greg Bach (co-host)

You know what?

Don't be funnier than me, Andrew, okay?

I don't have much in life.

I don't have Jane's brains and or looks or talent.

I don't have Calvin's know-how brains and or looks and or talent.

All I have is my humor and sometimes that falls flat.

Don't be funnier than me.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, guys, specifically.

Ladies, too.

Just curious, do you pedicure?

Have you had a pedicure?

Have you...

Thought about a pedicure.

Are you pedicure curious?

You're pedicurious.

Oh, pedicurious.

Oh, I like it.

I hate myself.

That's the whole name for the segment now.

Brett from Brown Deer is on the line.

Good morning, Brett.

Thanks so much for joining us.

What about you?

Brett from Brown Deer (caller)

Hey guys, that was a great topic.

No, I've never had a pedicure, but every year my wife ties, so we go back to Thailand.

And last two years or two years ago,

I was, oh, sorry.

I was, uh, they have those fish tanks.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Yes.

Yes.

Were they nibble on your toes?

Brett from Brown Deer (caller)

Oh my God.

Talk about ticklish.

I'm really ticklish.

It was so hard to keep my feet in there

Jane Matt Nair (host)

and I'm

Brett from Brown Deer (caller)

laughing.

And it goes on a while.

Yeah.

Then afterwards though, it really felt like...

like a chemical peel or something.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

I believe

Brett from Brown Deer (caller)

it.

I could feel it different.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Oh yeah, it gets you all nice and smooth and like baby toes and all those things.

I've

Greg Bach (co-host)

got the feet of a baby's butt right

Jane Matt Nair (host)

now.

But I can see that Brett with being really ticklish.

with those little minnows.

I

Greg Bach (co-host)

don't want to assume what you look like, Brett, but from your voice.

And by the way, I just want to say really quick, while you're on the phone, you texted early, I just want to say thank you for your service.

Thank you for your text.

That doesn't go unnoticed.

And we appreciate your sacrifice.

But also your voice strikes me as a gruff guy, a manly guy.

And I just want to picture you with fish nibbling at your feet and you going, tee!

Brett from Brown Deer (caller)

I kind of used to look a little bit like a biker.

Yeah.

But, um, yeah.

Well, when everybody thanks me for my service, I always tell them it really was an honor and a privilege.

Thank you.

And thank you all for paying taxes.

So I could

Jane Matt Nair (host)

thank you.

Awesome, Brad.

Thank you very much.

Thank you for contacting.

That was a goose bumps right there.

Thank you so much, Brett.

Really appreciate it.

And thanks for joining in

Calvin (board operator)

on this.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Guys, specifically ladies to

Do you pedicure?

Are you pedicurious at 855-752-4842?

Tony on the live stream says nothing against it.

I just don't care about it too much.

Plus I have three kids.

So I'm too busy.

I get that.

Greg Bach (co-host)

That just sounds like excuses for not

Jane Matt Nair (host)

pampering yourself.

Have a me day.

Greg Bach (co-host)

I'll come up there.

I'll take care of the kids.

Trust me.

I'm cool.

And you go pamper yourself.

And I say that.

I say that because

I was so against pedicure.

That's how this all came up.

Once again, we don't plan audio sorbet.

It just happens during the prep.

We're kicking things around.

And I said that I was very against pedicures, and it wasn't for manly reasons, because if you know me, not manly, it just kind of weirded me out.

Not a big feet person.

Don't really enjoy the looks of them.

But I went up.

to San Francisco to see my brother-in-law with my wife and my brother-in-law.

God love him.

He's not so much a planner with saying, Hey, what do you want to do?

He's a planner who says we're doing this.

And he got his pedicures and I will say it opened my eyes a whole new world and I love them.

I don't do them all the time, but I do indulge when I can.

And I would say they actually, it's not just even a, it's not a, it's a pampering thing, but you feel the difference.

Calvin (board operator)

It's not

Greg Bach (co-host)

just like, Oh, I'm going to get my nails done.

It makes you feel good, but

a pedicure actually, especially if you have feet that need attention will, it'll make you walk different.

It'll make your feet feel different.

I mean, I used to have, I used to have something on the side of my big toe.

It was just like the callousers.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

It

Greg Bach (co-host)

wasn't callous so much, but like there was no feeling right there.

There was, it was, it was just like, it was, it was, I don't know how to describe it.

It just felt like

hard skin and someone just took a pumice thing and boom.

So yeah, it has actual benefits too.

And that's what I would say is like, it's not just treating yourself, but see how you feel afterwards.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

It's

Greg Bach (co-host)

a good thing.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

855-752-4842.

Do you pedicure is today's audio survey question.

Troy from Mount Horrib is on the line.

Good morning, Troy.

Thanks so much for joining us.

Brett from Brown Deer (caller)

Yes, absolutely.

Yay.

part of something you have to do to take care of yourself.

And I'd rather somebody else cut those claws than me.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

I mean, feet can be kind of gnarly anyway, right, Troy?

Brett from Brown Deer (caller)

And I didn't for a long time, but as I've aged, it's easier for somebody else.

It's harder for me to bend down there.

So I reached on.

I'll be texting you pictures from Boston on Saturday.

My stepdaughter lives up there and I've got to go up and fix a couple of things up there for her.

So I'm going to a rally up there.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Love it.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Send us pictures, Troy.

Send

Greg Bach (co-host)

us pictures.

You can also email them to Jane says at civicmedia.us.

And those pictures, we want to see about your rally pictures.

Also, speaking of pictures, Brett sent

Jane Matt Nair (host)

pictures

Greg Bach (co-host)

of the fish a cure.

Thank you, Troy.

Thank you very much, Troy, for reaching out.

And yes, everything about what I thought Brett looked like is true.

Calvin (board operator)

I expected a

Greg Bach (co-host)

mustache or a beard.

But yes, and his face is like, ooh, it's amazing.

Oh, I bet that he was so ticklish.

Brett, can you text us?

I don't know if I would love to share these on our socials, if possible.

If not, I won't share them.

And if we can't, I won't share them.

But this is wonderful.

I think this, because I want to speak to David.

who's listening in Richland center right now, who says no pedicure because my feet are ugly and they would need an industrial grinder to tackle that job.

I understand that.

I think that's one of the reasons why I didn't do it.

Self-consciousness.

Cause you think these are so bad, right?

They've seen worse.

Oh, absolutely.

Calvin (board operator)

And

Greg Bach (co-host)

even if they haven't, they don't judge

Calvin (board operator)

it.

Greg Bach (co-host)

And honestly, I, I'm going to put a guarantee because if the, if.

Bob Jr.

can make comments about autism and Tylenol.

I can say this with confidence.

You will feel better after you had it done.

And especially with what Troy was saying with regard to clipping the toenails, that's important just for the healthier feet because ingrown toenails are a thing

Calvin (board operator)

and

Greg Bach (co-host)

they can really work on your cuticles and make sure they're healthy.

That's the other thing too.

It's just like your fingernails.

They gotta be healthy or there can be problems.

So yeah.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Jenny on the live stream, they're especially helpful for folks who have trouble reaching their toes or have circulation issues.

Men deserve good things too.

You are absolutely right, Jenny.

Yes, they do.

Greg Bach (co-host)

God, I cannot, I cannot speak to that enough.

And that is a, that is a huge, huge thing for men to really, it's difficult.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Well, it's trying to get past all those stereotypes, right?

And what has been ingrained in us for so long, that men, real men don't do this.

Well, back in the day, good heavens, if you watch Mad Men, they got manicures.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Manicures.

They got pedicures.

They wore nice suits.

They had their custom tailor suits.

I think, you know, I know this is Sorbet, but I'm going to take a moment and...

I say this with all knowledge that what women go through is a struggle and it's hard and I'm not comparing and saying it's just as or worse.

But unless you're a guy, I think especially living in America, you don't understand.

It's hard to understand.

It's hard to understand these weird pressures because it's not like the pressures of Hollywood to say, look pretty Jane.

It's the pressures from society saying, don't cry because you're a man.

You must provide because you're a man.

Don't do that.

You're a man.

You don't have time for that.

You're a man.

It's difficult.

And unfortunately, it's ingrained by our parents and our grandparents

Jane Matt Nair (host)

because

Greg Bach (co-host)

so

Calvin (board operator)

on and

Greg Bach (co-host)

so forth.

So if getting a pedicure is the one thing you can do that can take care of yourself, feel good and maybe feel better, go for it.

And don't tell anybody either.

You don't have to tell anybody.

Just try

Jane Matt Nair (host)

it.

I want you to try it.

Absolutely.

Dan from Wausau.

I love this so much.

Texting in from WXCO.

Oh, no.

Will Jesse Waters at Fox call me beta and take away my man card?

LOL.

Well, I mean,

Greg Bach (co-host)

to be fair, Dan

Jane Matt Nair (host)

and Wausau.

Just don't use a straw, Dan, because that apparently is revocable offense for a man card.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Or eating ice

Jane Matt Nair (host)

cream in public.

Yeah, no ice

Greg Bach (co-host)

cream.

Or voting for a Democrat.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Yeah, that'll make

Greg Bach (co-host)

me a one, two.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

I mean, it's, it's, I, I'm all for it.

And I think it's great.

And I think it's, uh, I think it's something you should do.

And, and women, if you're out there and you have the same feeling as Dan does and you were self-conscious about your feet, I get that too.

Go for it.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Trust me.

After the winter, because I don't get pedicures during the winter, when I go for the first time in spring, I always apologize.

It's like, I know it's disgusting.

I'm really sorry.

They stick your feet in there for.

15 minutes.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Can I tell you a really quick story about a pedicure going wrong or do we have some okay?

I thought we someone had someone phone I went to a pedicure get a pedicure my fifth anniversary with my wife We got like an all-day spot and I did a I did a paraffin dip and the paraffin was so hot it burned my foot So don't do that.

Don't do a paraffin dip get a pedicure get a pedicure yourself

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Andrew from Maine says pedicure is feet, right?

I mean I haven't had either sets of my nails painted hands or feet or other treatment done

Aside from dropping a tire on my foot, I don't think that counts even if it turned colors.

I get

Greg Bach (co-host)

foot of cures and hand of cures all the time.

What are you talking about?

Jane Matt Nair (host)

All right, when we return, this shouldn't be a thing.

We'll end the show.

The Mothman cometh.

Stay close.

This is Matt Nair on air on the vast statewide, countrywide, pick us up around the world on the Civic Media Network.

Jane (Host)

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There is a big case going up before the Supreme Court today.

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And he has said before on his show that this will probably be the most important decision to come out of this court for this term.

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And Jim will delve deeper into it.

And if you want to know more about a show, listen to Amicus Law Review every Saturday, 9 a.m.

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We'll probably talk a little baseball baseball as well.

That is all coming up tomorrow Right now 1054 Calvin that means it's time for

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If you ever find a thing you think should not be, send it into Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us, J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S.

Jane says, atcivicmedia.us, this from NPR, Bill Chappelle, with the byline, devotees of the mysterious Mothman, descend on its West Virginia hometown.

Every September,

Streets in Point Pleasant, West Virginia are taken over by Mothman.

The mysterious creature just like Bigfoot, who has inspired books, movies, podcasts, and devoted fans.

The 2025 Mothman Festival.

Many people in costume.

Oh, yeah, shocking.

Walking beneath giant inflatables with Mothman to the Ghostbusters Staypuff Marshmallow Man.

For celebrating a dark and mysterious being, the vibe at the Mothman Festival is surprisingly uplifting.

Eric Johnson, visiting from Chicago, says West Virginia is beautiful, and Mothman is to die for.

That's what he

Greg (Host)

wants.

Jane (Host)

Mothman's local origins came in a late night sighting in 1966.

Sighting, air quotes.

Yeah, in 1966, two young couples.

reported seeing and being chased by a towering winged humanoid creature just outside of Point Pleasant, West Virginia.

The story sparked interest and established Mothman is a famous unverified creature.

But for the folks in Point Pleasant, it is undeniably real.

And

Greg (Host)

this kids is why you should always say no to drugs.

Jane (Host)

People light up for pictures.

with the giant mothman statue, often including front and rear angles because of the figures famously shaped airy air dubbed the shiny heiny.

Greg (Host)

Mothman works out.

Jane (Host)

Summer Maddox from California said she is wearing a form-fitting, cave, curve-hugging black bodysuit with a black hand-painted moth cape, red spectacles, red contact lenses,

that I made for the costume to embody Mothman.

This is my expression of the female version of Mothman.

Mothman Festival started in the early 2000, the big boost, a movie with Richard Gere and Laura Lenny called The Mothman Prophecies.

I have never heard of that.

Oh, I have.

Greg (Host)

Wait, Laura Lenny?

Jane (Host)

Laura Lenny,

Greg (Host)

Richard Gere.

They were in Primal Fear together, too.

That was a good movie.

But yeah, okay.

Jane (Host)

There is a Mothman Museum.

Of course there is.

A corner store that holds memorabilia, newspaper clippings, and eyewitness accounts of Mothman sightings.

Greg (Host)

Where's the Mothman

Jane (Host)

Museum?

Steve's house.

Mothman Festival draws 20,000 people.

Yeah.

to Point Pleasant, West Virginia, which has a population of 5,000.

It has turned into a three-day festival.

Millions now flow through Point Pleasant, West Virginia over the weekend.

This is Christmas for us as a local retailer, probably as much as the whole year put together.

Greg (Host)

I wonder if they have a 5K where they're running into the Mothman.

People dress up as Mothman and run after you.

Because they did that in Milwaukee one year, like a zombie.

Zombie Dash

Calvin (Engineer)

or

Greg (Host)

something where you're running

Calvin (Engineer)

and

Greg (Host)

you get chased by these people dressed as zombies.

I mean, I love the economic impact and I love the fun, but it's the people out there who are like, but you don't understand, man.

The government wants us to not believe it's true.

Richard Geer was trying to

Jane (Host)

tell us

Greg (Host)

something.

Jane (Host)

Hope Love, who grew up in Point Pleasant and sells handmade crafts, including Mothman potholders, said that Mothman put Point Pleasant on the map.

About two months ago.

I had someone in here from Taiwan and someone from Germany.

This is pretty cool.

Yeah Offman festival

Greg (Host)

mm-hmm

Jane (Host)

all thanks to Roger and Linda Scarberry and Steven Mary Mallet who reported in 1966 They had been chased down the road by a man with wings glowing red eyes six to seven feet tall Sure

Whatever makes you happy.

I mean,

Greg (Host)

I guess, yeah.

Jane (Host)

I just want a mothman potholder now because they exist.

Well, there you go.

Well now, okay, Christmas is coming.

That wraps up today's episode of...

Calvin (Engineer)

This shouldn't

Jane (Host)

be a thing.

Thank you Greg and Calvin and all of our engineers and everyone at Civic Media without you, nothing works.

And thank you most of all for calling and for texting and for listening and watching on the stream.

It genuinely means the world.

I hope you find some joy today even if it's just a little bit and you have the chance to share it.

Keep it here, news is coming up next, followed by Tom Hartman on the Civic Media Radio Network.

We'll see you tomorrow.

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