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We had planned to talk to Will Westmoreland, who is a farmer from southwestern Missouri.

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Stuck in DC so we have rescheduled will we'll be joining us next Tuesday to talk about farmers and tariffs and Waiting for that big beautiful rescue package after the tariffs that

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He is not going to run for governor.

Yeah, and also the ice raids in Chicago

And I know there's one in particular that Dan wants to talk about that we have addressed very briefly.

Yeah.

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Let's talk about this Audio gripe also known as let's change the subject Today's audio sorbet.

What job could you never do?

Yeah, and it might not you know every Police officer, I think that I know I couldn't do that job, but I think that there are lots of other jobs

When we think about them, it's like, I know I couldn't do

that.

And I want to, it's not just a, I couldn't do it because of maybe physicality or because of education.

One where you say, I have no interest.

I could I couldn't do it because I don't care enough.

Well, and I

wouldn't be good at it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's coming up for audio survey.

And then we'll wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it's the flying high edition.

Stay tuned for that.

It should be a lot of fun.

Of course, we are going to game five.

Mm hmm.

We're not going to talk about it a lot.

I just think it's important to mention that.

You mentioned it.

Okay.

See, here's my theory.

Oh, God.

Here comes Jane with in-depth sport theories.

Yes.

They want to prove to Major League Baseball that they can pull in numbers.

And so they're giving them a game five to say, sure, we're a small market, but we can still draw ratings.

Take that, Major League Baseball.

That's my theory.

I'm going with it.

I'm sorry.

I

didn't have to like it.

What were you talking about?

I blacked out there for a second.

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Go crew.

Wanted to start off.

with this.

And I think it's important we just put things in a little bit of context because we tend to forget.

I forget what we had for dinner last night.

So back in February of this year, February 17th, that's when the Trump administration started firing hundreds of FAA employees.

Hundreds of them.

This kind of created some problems that first weekend.

But the impacted workers Excuse me included People hired to monitor radar landing navigational maintenance Transportation secretary Sean Duffy at that point said fewer than 400 FAA employees were fired zero air traffic controllers and critical safety personnel were let go However

Officials tell the AP the agency did keep employees who perform critical safety functions, but they're looking at whether some of these people were really necessary.

Now, I know that when we talk about government employees and we talk about the concepts of bloat or fraud, wasteful spending or whatever, there's there are a lot of conversations that can be apt to this topic.

And I usually think more of like the department type of stuff, stuff that's like in DC, when you're talking about like, oh, you know, this FBI or the department of defense or like all these three letter departments, I understand where people have their gripes about, well, what are they even doing?

Right?

What are all those pencil pushers?

But when it comes to the FAA, anybody who works for the FAA at the actual airport,

I feel like they're there for a very specific reason.

And we shouldn't look at those locations like the FAA department in DC.

Okay.

If there's an undersecretary to the assistant of the undersecretary, let's look at that.

But when we're talking about the jobs that you just named off, I don't feel like they should come into question because they all feel important.

Yeah.

Maintenance is kind of, you know, one of those things when you're flying maintenance, you want to check on that stuff.

So here's the article from.

Yesterday, Milwaukee Journal's Sentinel Lawrence Andrea with the byline, transportation secretary Sean Duffy now says air traffic controllers could be fired for not showing up during the government shutdown.

He said they will not get paid and could be fired.

Duffy said in an interview on Foe News, he's seen an uptick in air traffic controllers calling in sick since the government shutdown.

October 1st, and that's why he's blaming flight disruptions.

There were like 4,600 flights that got delayed yesterday.

That's a

big, and then the ripple effect from that is huge.

And it's really only going to get worse.

And we were talking about this earlier before we got on the air.

And this could be one of the things that really pushed it for a lot of people because the

You know, President Trump has been in office since the 21st of January.

So we're talking about a little over nine months, eight months, eight months and some change.

We're going into the ninth month here.

And there have been firings.

There have been things happening.

There has been the blob of the bill, but not a lot of like tangible, common things happening where my point, I'm sorry, I'm going a long way to make this point.

Being stuck at the airport because of the shutdown and because of these cuts from Doge is something that everyone, regardless of party is experiencing.

And they may see they're going, why is this happening?

Well, it's because of the shutdown.

It's because of Doge.

It's because of these things.

And air traffic controllers calling in sick.

I don't know if it's so much a protest, but that's a way of guaranteeing pay because they get sick pay.

And the president this week said, oh, I'm not even sure we're going to give them their back pay.

Exactly.

I mean, that is unheard of.

That is going to be directly in the courts.

Sean Duffy,

Wisconsinite.

Ruler of Rhodes.

Ruler

of Rhodes.

Sean Duffy said, quote, listen, we need more controllers, but we need the best and the brightest of dedicated controllers.

If we have some on our staff that aren't dedicated like we need, we're going to let them go.

I can't have people not showing up for work, unquote.

By the way,

Dupster decided to go to an air traffic control tower.

Mm-hmm.

Live.

Yeah.

Broadcasting.

Yeah.

And interrupted an air traffic controller to ask him questions.

Yep, and the air traffic controller was real honest.

I got a mortgage.

I have a wife who doesn't work.

I have kids.

I can't lose my job.

I can't not get paid.

And Sean Duffy is doing his best and I'll, and I'll try and I will find the clip.

We, the clip was, is from the, the daily show, Josh Johnson hosted this week and they played it.

But the guy doing, by the way, who's doing his job is being very honest.

And Sean Duffy is doing his best to be one empathetic.

I don't think that's something he's capable of, but also

trying to steer the narrative of this shutdown is making it hard for everyone, but it's not my fault.

It's not my fault.

Listen to this guy tell his story.

That's the shutdown's terrible.

Guess what, bud?

Your party's in charge of everything.

Yeah, pretty much.

Before the shutdown, Sean Duffy said air traffic controller shortages were responsible for about 5% of flight delays.

Right now, these shortages responsible for 53% of the delays.

And I guess one of my things is, is Sean Duffy still going to keep getting paid, isn't he?

Yes, he will.

As transportation secretary.

He will continue to

get paid.

He'll keep getting paid.

All of those congressmen and senators, regardless of party, will continue to get paid.

It's really, I mean, it's really a great deal for them.

No kidding.

And every time we've had a, every time we've had a shutdown, it's the same thing people say is, take away their pay.

See how long the government stays

closed.

Right.

Yeah.

I think I would think that that is something we could all agree on.

You would think, yes, I would.

Our elected officials, if they're going to do a government shutdown and the government workers don't get paid, they are still government workers.

Our elected officials are government workers.

Absolutely.

So they shouldn't get paid.

No.

And then I don't know, do we pay them back?

Well, we'll have to wait and see.

I think the people should get to vote on that.

I

think that I mean the president himself on We played the clip of him saying if a shutdown happens the guy up top should be fired

Yeah, it's the president's fault if there's a shutdown our current president said that

yes out loud in 2013 it's on tape and this is his Third shut

down.

Yeah third shut

down

I guess the question I have is, I don't know.

I keep on asking the question, but I don't really know what the breaking point is.

Being stuck at the airport with thousands of other people because of slow movement, because of lack of staff, because of a shutdown, because of doge cuts.

I feel like that is a real time example in front of your face to at the very least say,

What's going on?

What's going on here?

Like who is in charge here?

And by the way speaking of Doge.

Yeah, Wall Street Journal just came out with a report That said that despite Doge's actions government spending is actually up Elon.

Elon boasted that he was gonna save two trillion dollars at the beginning of January

Wall Street Journal says yet that hasn't happened.

That's not even close, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Doge did claw back some grants and fired some probationary workers, but that has not changed the big picture so far.

Total spending, excluding interest, rose $220 billion or 4% for the entire fiscal

year.

Let's remember to the way they saved money quote saved money Was getting rid of social programs grants That's their version of saving money.

Well, and then firing all these people and then realizing oh my god He had the keys to everything.

Yeah, let's hire him back.

Yep So fiscally responsible coming up.

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Cause the thing about the Packers is that their fandom is worldwide and dying hard.

Absolutely.

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It's probably gonna be, hopefully it'll have a long life in the theaters and yeah.

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All right.

Before we get to if, uh, if you're waiting for a package from UPS, you could be waiting a while.

Uh, but Jean from Eau Claire is waiting patiently on the line.

Good morning, Jean.

Thanks for joining us.

What's up?

Well, thank you for thinking my call.

I'll tell you something.

I can't do that anymore.

Hey, Jean, are you, are you upset?

Just like, are you fired up?

Are you, uh, perturbed?

Oh, am I perturbed?

You're lucky that I'm not out on this.

I'd be out there protesting with the biggest sign you ever had, and I wouldn't leave, and they'd have to take me out on whatever.

But I'll tell you something.

I am watching what the devil's going on here, and I'm watching live, you know, these brutal attacks, animalistic behavior.

These people, if tabloids, hierarchy of needs, and people, you know, the way they live their lives, these people would be on the bottom.

They'd be like the crocodiles and alligators, and eating everything or killing everything in their sights.

Somebody said that to me once.

He's trying to kill off Americans.

No, he's not.

I couldn't believe that one.

Well, now I believe it.

It's stuff that this man is allowed to do, but it's not just him.

It's those people around him.

It's the wealthiest people in America, the people idiots that he put in those different areas that we need good people.

And they don't care, and the sad thing is I'm watching that little guy behind the glasses looking so Christian, and I'm getting mad about it because I'm a Christian and I don't wear it on my sleeve.

Hurting the churches.

Tell the lies like they're spewing out all over the place.

And people are believing it.

And in the meantime, every single American is hurting, worried, concerned, and Niger who's

are doing.

Gall d'Arne think about it and in fact they turn their nose and they go back and sit in their offices and they're going to make everybody suffer.

So the best thing we can do is get Gall d'Arne good candidates because every Gall d'Arne want him to go and Tiffany, he was involved in what happened in Wisconsin, didn't fix the roads, didn't work on anything, sent money to their big wealthy donation people and then Tony even had to come and fix it.

So wake up, folks.

You guys need to get active.

Check out these people who are running and get rid of these son of a gun because they don't give one eye out about anybody in this state or in this country.

And we got to save the children's future.

So I'm sorry.

I've been watching this stuff live.

And I can't believe it.

We appreciate it, Jean.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

She's very passionate.

She's very

involved.

If you're like Jean, Jane,

Sorry, I didn't mean to do that.

If you're like Jean Jane that time I did and you are feeling as fired up as Jean is and you want to do something about it Where can one go to maybe say voice your opinion on the matter?

You could go to my vote I have a banner on the live stream created for such a place

my vote W I dot gov all you have to do is type in your address Yes, and every elected official who represents you from the very smallest all the way to the top will give you their

Contact information.

They work for us.

They work for us.

You can call them.

You can call them and be respectful.

Call them anytime.

Leave messages.

Be respectful.

But also, if they don't know how we are feeling, if we are not contacting them, they think what they're doing is fine.

Exactly.

They do.

So let your voice be heard.

We still have a voice.

My vote.wi.gov.

It's a great resource besides the

contact information.

But thank you, Jeannie, very much.

And I just want to repeat really something that Jeannie said recently that I didn't know.

She's also an independent.

She's an independent.

She's not a loony, lefty, liberal, crunchy hippies.

Sorry, crunchy hippies.

But yeah, she is an independent.

And this is firing the independence up hard.

Myvote.wy.gov.

Makes him phone calls.

Yeah.

Drop in, drop a line.

Write a letter.

Let them know you're thinking about them.

News is coming up next.

We will tell you about the UPS story because I do want to share this with you if you're waiting for a package.

I want us to try to do this for the rest of the show and it just never happens.

We'll never get to the point.

That's all on the way.

Stay close.

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Talk about things that are a little more lighthearted so we don't all crack up and lose our minds.

Today, the topic for audio survey, what job could you not do?

And

it's not just physical or mental.

It's just like, no.

I

would not be

good at this.

I couldn't do that job.

I would not be good at this job.

What job could you not do?

And you can text in your answer now if you're not going to be around next

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Talking about jobs and the jobs you just could not do.

That's coming up about an hour from now.

As promised, we wanted to talk about this.

UPS, this from NBC News.

UPS is disposing of U.S.

bound packages over customs paperwork problems.

Is this a Trump thing?

Thousands of US bound packages shipped by UPS are now trapped at hubs across the country stuck there because of the maze of new customs requirements imposed by the Trump administration.

There it is.

As packages flags for custom issues pile up in UPS warehouses, the company UPS told NBC

It has begun disposing of some shipments.

There is such a backlog of packages that now they're just getting rid of some of them.

Matthew Wasserbach, who is brokerage manager of Express Customs Clearance, said of the UPS backlog, I have never seen anything like this before.

It's completely unprecedented.

because a couple of months ago, we covered a story where it was some companies outside the US are just no longer even shipping here because of all of the convoluted things they have to go through to get a package through customs.

They're just like, no, sorry, we're not, we're not shipping to America anymore.

Sorry, get it somewhere else.

I mean, this is what I was talking about with regard to the, the airline industry.

These are real tangible examples of how these policies are first just inept and then harm us and harm I'm using in the term of like a legal term, not like hurt me, I'm bruised, battered, but put a dent in my wallet, make an inconvenience.

I buy something from somewhere.

I expect that thing to be at my doorstep at a given time.

If it can't get through because of customs and they then throw it out, they're not even shipping it back.

No.

Or telling you that it got destroyed.

These are real life consequences of these stupid

policies.

And these policies affect not just red, not just blue.

Yes.

But independence too.

Clip that, please.

That's

Calvin for real, that was content.

That's, we're gonna

make it stop.

But it affects all of us, it does.

Yes, absolutely.

NBC News reporting that more than two dozen people, they heard from more than two dozen people who are waiting for their packages from UPS.

They talked about shipments of tea, telescopes, luxury glassware, musical instruments, some worth tens of thousands of dollars in limbo.

Or they might just be gone.

They might just be gone.

Ashley Freberg is missing several boxes she shipped via UPS from England in September.

These were journals, records, books, lots of personal keepsakes.

She said over the next two weeks she got two separate notifications from UPS.

that her personal mementos had not cleared customs, and as a result, she heard about it.

They disposed of them.

October 1st, a UPS tracking update appeared for her packages, saying they were on the way.

And she got updates that she showed NBC that the shipments revealed it was the most recent update she had gotten, but they're gone.

The stuff is gone.

There's no replacing those things.

Not

personal mementos

like that.

Do you get

your money back?

Like, what is the recourse?

What is the redress on these situations for an individual who's just, you know, doing what a lot of people have been doing for decades, which is shipping things from one place to the other?

A Boston man said he shipped a package from Japan via UPS.

After it sat in Louisville for about two weeks, he got a tracking update.

Saying quote, we're sorry your package did not clear customs and has been removed from the UPS network per customs guidelines.

It has been destroyed Contact the sender for more information

and just to give clarification to what I was talking about with regard to the earlier story we covered on the country is not shipping to the US because of

What's called the so it's an it's an easier process because of something called the de minimis trade agreement which President Trump has allowed to sunset It would allow packages that were worth less than $800 to enter the US duty-free and and it's going that that agreement is going to sunset because of that

25 member nations, UN member nations are no longer going to ship because it doesn't make sense for them to do it.

So you cannot buy from them if you live here.

Like these are real consequences.

And again, the question I have, Jane, what is your breaking point?

Mine was a while ago.

Mine was the day after the election.

That was my breaking point.

But what is it going to take for one of you listeners who love Donald Trump again?

Don't tell me you don't like him.

That's fine.

I don't care about your feelings towards him I'm saying what is going to be your breaking point to your pocketbook to your convenience to your life that will make you at the very least just say Okay, what that's where I want that's that's the level for me.

It's just okay.

What two years of pain Yeah, that's what Elon said

two years of pain.

Luckily billionaires can endure lots of pain.

They'll they'll be fine Yeah UPS says it is doing its best to get all packages to their destinations while

following the new customs requirements, quote, because of changes to U.S.

import regulations, we're seeing many packages unable to clear customs because of missing or incomplete information.

UPS said it does try several times to get missing information so they can clear those.

Contacting shippers three times, but ultimately if they can't get that information, they're out of luck.

So.

If you are waiting for a package from UPS, it could be waiting a while.

I

mean,

and that's, we talked to Schiller, Lisa Schiller last week about scams.

And one of the things that we are going to be talking about more is holiday scams.

And the reason why I bring this up is because with these problems with shipping, I have a feeling you're going to, you could, I don't want to project it into the universe.

You could see people coming out saying, having shipping problems, talk to us.

We'll think, we have a way to go around it.

Because

if

UPS is disposing of packages and you're out of money and they're a legit billion-dollar corporation, I have no doubt there's some guy in East Brunswick, New Jersey who's like, I'll start Steve's shipping company taking people's money.

So that's something just

be

aware.

Yeah.

855-752-4842.

If you'd like to join us, Ollie from the Northwoods is on the line.

Good morning, Ollie.

What do you want to say about this?

Well, I was sitting here pulling my hair out.

Greg touched on it a little bit, but I was already blowing off steam trying to figure out how are you going to get your money back?

Most people who have ordered and are waiting have had to pay on

you know, put it on their credit card or whatever PayPal or whatever, um, how are they going to get their money back?

And, um, if there isn't someone that, um, you can set up that could maybe find that out and talk to us like you're a better business lady.

We'll see what else we can learn about

this, Ollie, absolutely.

I mean, your first call is going to be UPS.

And the thing is, and I know I'm not one to sit here and sympathize with corporations, but they just want to do their job.

They want to create, they want to give an experience to a customer that is satisfactory.

So they keep using it.

And so you don't go to their competitors as there are a lot of competitors now.

So it's in their best interest to get this resolved and give you all the information you need.

I wouldn't be even surprised if there's a special website.

now on their page saying, hey, did you ship?

And the thing, sorry, here you can give you the information because it's really, I mean, the airline story that you brought up, and these are just real world examples of things that affect regular folk like me and you.

People who work for a living, we're not billionaires, I'm not even a million, I'm barely a thousandare at this point,

I'm in

a house, I'm in debt.

There comes a breaking point.

We I mean that was the chief complaint last year during the election from a lot of

it was

prices It was prices.

It was I can't I gotta I gotta make decisions is it rent?

Is it mine?

Is it my is it close?

Is it food?

Is it my kids school?

We're seeing the impact of Decisions being made and now all these individuals who last year were saying but what about the price of eggs are silent

Are you fine now?

Or are you just taking it on the

teeth because you have to?

Well, they're being good Americans and they're gonna suffer those two years of pain because that's what they were apparently a sucky America promised Switching gears just a little bit.

There was a panel discussion at last week's World Dairy Expo.

Oh,

yes

And this is an opinion piece commentary piece from Ruth Conniff in the Wisconsin Examiner and Wisconsin's own Derek van Orden

spoke trying to get my blood pressure up to the farmers.

He assured them that the Trump administration has farmers backs.

He said, Elon Musk, I spoke to Elon Musk.

I was like, Hey, Elon, there's two groups of people in the US.

We need to watch out for one of them are service members and the other are farmers.

So he really zoned in on that and grasped it.

And DVO also said another incredibly strong proponent of the dairy industry is Tom Hohman.

The borders are.

The architect of the family separation policy during the first Trump administration.

The guy who's $50,000 richer because

he took a bag full of money.

Derek Van Orden asked the dairy farmers to support his proposal for a new system to make the workforce legal.

It would impose a fine on employers and dairy workers, and require those workers to self-deport before coming back under a new program that would allow them to do their jobs legally.

The farmers had a lot of questions.

What is the workers incentive to take part in this?

How long would it take the government to process this paperwork, get them out of the country, and then send them back?

How do they know they won't get deported as soon as they come back?

He didn't answer any of those questions.

I know that's shocking.

You know, you know me, my history with this man.

It's a very one-sided battle.

I know that.

And I used to try to pick fights with him because I just want to see him get angry at me.

But the more we talk about this man, he is just an example of a human being who is so bad at his job, but yet he gets to do things like this and people are like, and it says in the article,

They're willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

What's happening?

Gonna have to give a lot more benefits going forward.

When we return, I want a Nobel Prize and I want it now.

Okay, I'll get one.

It's like, what's your face from William Wonka, the purple girl?

Did you just say William Wonka?

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Donald Trump did not get the Nobel Peace Prize today, this from the Daily Beast, despite his desperate lobbying campaign for the honor appears he craves more than anything else.

Calvin, we're going live right now for a comment from the White House.

Can you play that clip, please?

Remember the funny, huh?

I want one!

I want a golden goose!

Gooses!

There it is.

There you

go.

I want it.

I want it now.

And I want it now.

Why can't

I

have it right now, Jane?

For one thing, the nomination process for all of the Nobel Prizes is an eight-month-long screening and decision-making

process.

And there's something in the process.

This is an official term they use.

They have a deadline.

They do.

They have a deadline.

They do have a

deadline.

And he'll very likely be nominated next year.

And for the record, this has happened to presidents before.

If this goes through the peace deal between Israel

and Gaza,

the nomination will make sense.

I understand the reason for the nomination.

If it holds, if it sticks, everyone does their thing.

But the incapability of grasping the fact that the nominations were due January 31st of this year for what came out this week and he was in office for 10 days Just let it go Well and let 2026 be your

year like just no he wants it now He wants it now Greg

On faux news this morning, Maria Bartiromo.

Oh my God, this... Oh, this section.

Talking to Steve Scalise, Republican lawmaker.

Maria said, on your point about the Nobel Peace Prize, do you think maybe the reason Trump won't get it is because you had to get the application in before January 31st.

That was only a few days into his term.

Steve Scalise said, oh, sure, they can play technicalities.

That's the deadline.

And,

again, I apologize for not having this clip ready because it's a fascinating conversation between Maria Bard Aroma, who's just always fun to listen to.

You listen to

her talk at your face.

And Steve Scalise because first she starts with, well, I don't understand why he got it.

And then she brings up a perfectly reasonable point, which is, there was a deadline.

There was a deadline.

They missed it.

Fine.

Next year.

Get your paperwork ready.

Get going.

I know you all will do it.

Then Steve Scalise says that oh a technicality then she says yeah, you're right like she just falls apart

right there Well, of course she

realizes she just did the main problem when you're on Fox News Which is you presented logic and reason in an argument and the moment she it's like when Stephen Miller started talking about plenary

whatever that plenary plenary plenary authority he just shut down short circuit and went into buffer mode because she's she's like oh i can't oh i i just i i gave a reason why he can't get something you're right technicalities

a reporter asked one of the members of the nobel committee about this us president donald trump has repeatedly said he'd like to have nobel peace prize and he deserves it he said it would be an insult to the us if he doesn't get it what do you think of this

The chair of the Nobel committee responded essentially by saying campaigning for it and media attention does not work.

He also said the Nobel committee bases their decision on, quote, courage and integrity, unquote.

This isn't the Emmys, this isn't the Oscars, you don't hire people to camp.

To

lobby for you.

But also, and while that's a wonderful statement, and that last little stinger of salt in the wound, but I will say, I will give you one other alternate answer to that question that they asked about his Donald Trump wanting it, if he just would have said, Donald who?

Oh.

Ouch.

By the way, the Nobel Committee gave this year's Nobel Peace Prize to Maria Carina Machado She is a Venezuelan opposition leader described as a brave and committed champion of peace She's receiving the Nobel Peace Prize for her tireless work promoting democratic rights for the people of Venezuela and for her struggle to achieve a just and peaceful transition from dictatorship

to democracy.

I don't know.

We have a weekend coming up.

Maybe we could all do some art projects with our kids and make little, little Nobel Prize, little medals for him.

I'll give 10 bucks if you can put Jeffrey Epstein on the prize.

Oh, but with them side by side.

I'm just saying, let's begin the countdown clock to when Donald Trump publicly insults this woman.

He hasn't yet.

I don't

think he has.

He's probably

still sleeping.

I don't think he has.

Then he has to have breakfast and that'll be, that's

three

big Macs.

That'll take him about.

10 minutes.

Yeah, wait, I want to see what he has to say about this woman, how he's going to somehow insult her, yet think he's giving her a compliment.

If she, maybe she could give it to me or share it with me or mention me at her speech.

Like, yeah, maybe, well, maybe she'll just give it to me

because someone actually gave him a purple heart.

For bone spurs incurred during battle because he's such a wonderful hero.

He's

got plumpy muscles and he muscles all over America with his plumpy He's

got very plumpy ankle sets.

We know for that

a cankles are nothing to make fun of

news

is coming up next.

And then when we return, we're going to do some re-combobulating with Dan Schaefer, creator of the re-combobulation area.

He is also Civic Media's political editor.

We're going to talk about Josh Call, not jumping into the gubernatorial race.

Red light cameras in Milwaukee and much, much more.

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Good morning, sir.

Thank you for joining us.

Good morning.

Always wonderful to join you fine folks here on Matt and Aaron air to recombobulate on a Friday.

We'll get recombobulating in just a minute.

I did want to hit this real quickly.

Todd this afternoon on the Todd Alba show from two to four.

In the three o'clock hour, he is going to be giving away VIP tickets for the world premiere of No Packers, No Life.

So this is the story of dedicated Japanese Packer fans who fulfill their dream of experiencing Lambo Field.

The film is going to premiere next week at the Majestic in Waukesha.

We did have listener Sally texted in with some questions about this.

If you want to find out more about getting tickets for this No Packers, No Life, go to NoPackersNoLife.com.

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Todd, also we've been texting back and forth here with a few more details.

VIP tickets for the Wednesday premiere are $100 each, and then the film will be opening at Marcus Theatre's October 16th.

with tickets at Marcus Theatre's site.

So I hope that helps.

If you want to go check that out, No Packers, No Life, go to nopackersnolife.com.

We will include that in our show notes.

We'll put that in our show notes.

And then join Todd today between three and four o'clock this afternoon when he gives away some of those VIP tickets for that movie.

Again, now it's time to re-combobulate with Dan Shaper.

Josh Call announcing that he is not going to jump into the governor's race.

Were you surprised by this, Dan?

I was a little surprised.

Yeah, I think, well, I think things had been kind of trending this direction.

So I wasn't, you know, surprised in the moment, I suppose.

But I think big picture, you zoom out, you know, a little bit here.

And I think Josh Call had been making it no secret that he wanted to run for.

something.

There was a piece, a long piece in the cap times, a couple years back where he was talking about his aspirations to potentially run for governor.

But I think as things have shifted in this race, and I think with the Trump administration and all the legal threats that are present because of it, I think maybe there's a recognition there that we need a strong

Democratic candidate for Attorney General in this era where a lot of rights

the states rights, you know, in particular, as we're seeing right now in Chicago and Illinois, are under threat from the Trump administration.

So I think it is going to be, you know, increasingly important to have somebody there who has the strong legal background and the, you know, the incumbent factor from the election standpoint, but also just, you know, some stability there in the AG's office.

But I think it does kind of, you know, have a pretty significant impact on the overall governor's race.

on the Democratic side, because I wrote this kind of too early preview at the Reconpopulation Area a couple months ago and talked about how if Josh Call were to run, he would probably walk into the race as the front runner, maybe not an overwhelming one, but you win two statewide races in Wisconsin, you're probably going to be at the top of the list for a primary.

Now, I know there's some things that people might not like about Josh Call.

Would he really emerge from the primaries, the front runner?

We don't have to ask those questions anymore because that's not what he's going to be doing.

But I do think it does significantly change the makeup of the primary.

And I thought he would be among the top tier of candidates.

And I had some people telling me they thought he would be the one to emerge from a primary.

But I think he's making the right call here and running for reelection for AG.

The right Josh call.

uh one call

that's all i don't want to sue don't do that not here not now uh the so and this is this is all oh politics is all speculation but do you feel dan that a run for governor would have been more i don't know better accepted or

I don't know how to, I'm trying to put, so it feels like Josh Call has kind of come out of the woodwork in the past like nine months.

He's really gotten in the news, talking about these lawsuits, as you mentioned, really putting his name out there.

People are seeing he is Josh Call the AG.

It's not just the AG of Wisconsin.

He's got, there's a name to the title.

And that's all very important, especially if you're seeking higher office.

I know one of the big sticking points for individuals, yourself, Jane, every time his name was brought up, you always kind of, you just were like, ugh, was the fact that he did not.

pursue any prosecution of the fake electors in 2020, I think that hurt his chances with a lot of Democrats, especially ones who leaned even more liberal.

And do you think that had he done that sooner, because he did do it, they have done it finally, they were the last state, had he done it sooner and made a little bit more of a name himself.

Maybe over the past two years there'd be more power towards his campaign because I feel like it's it would been too little too late this point to make an announcement especially in the face of all these other candidates who are just kind of kicking in the door with their with their platforms

Yeah, I do think that would have been a factor.

I do think if he had been more aggressive and going after the fake electors I think he would have One raised his profile because I think it would have been especially newsworthy, but I think also it would have

Deared himself to a lot of Democratic voters who really wanted to see accountability after January 6th really wanted to see accountability after the fake electors really wanted to see Accountability for so many in Wisconsin who tried to overturn the results of the presidential election in the state and I think the you know the We saw it nationally too with the you know the Attorney General Merrick Garland and and I think the lack of urgency

towards that accountability was a problem for a lot of people.

And I think, you know, we've talked about it on this show.

I think Todd has talked about it on his show as well.

I think the lack of urgency there is going to be a problem for another number of people.

And I think in a crowded primary, that might be enough to push certain voters to other candidates.

Well, and I just think that I think Kilda Roy's

And Sarah Rodriguez are really strong and Missy Hughes as well.

I think they're all really strong candidates.

That's the thing I do think it's a it's a strong bench and and it's a strong group of candidates and David Crowley and Francesca Hong and like I think there's a lot of really important conversations to be had I think the one big question now looming over the potential primary field is what is Mandela Barnes going to do And I think that has been kind of the conversation for what is what the next big chip, you know now that the call decision now that Josh

has made his decision.

So now we're asking the question, no call, that's all.

I'm so sorry.

Oh wow.

Well guys, that's been

a fun show.

We're canceled now.

We're done.

It was inevitable.

It just kind of laid itself

out there for you.

And that really leads us into the next part of this conversation, which was, you know, you talk about your too early article on the election.

I feel like a too early poll came out this week from a group that is one Democrat, one Republican, both pollsters that gave some, I mean, I'm just going to say it.

They gave nothing numbers.

There was nothing.

The only thing that really gave us conversation was the fact that there are more people undecided on both sides than either of the front runners of either side and both had like percentages of none and most of the people they were talking about

Haven't announced or won't announce so it just felt like a way of grabbing headlines and and and and the big takeaway quote I'm sorry Mike in my face the big quote takeaways Mandela Barnes is leading the Democrats with 16%

Yeah, I don't think that I there again also I didn't really take much away from the Democratic side of that poll Yeah, it was just like this is a crowded field that they all have you know varying levels of support This is way too early to be really having this conversation on the Democratic side on the Republican side I did find it somewhat interesting how how far in front Tom Tiffany was and they also included you know Eric Hovde in that poll and Tim Michaels in that poll and some other folks who are not running I Honestly, I think the biggest takeaway from that poll was the fact that Josh

Showman was only pulling at 4%.

On the Republican side, even though he has been campaigning since May and all of that, and Tiffany walks in and he's, you know.

quadrupled factors beyond that, his support.

So I think if anything else, that was a really bad poll for Josh Schoeman.

But yeah, Mandela Barnes was, I think it was at what, 16% and the rest of the Democratic candidates were in single digits, including Josh Call.

But I just think on name recognition alone, that's probably the type of level of support you're going to see from a candidate who, in the very recent past, ran a statewide race and got more than a million votes.

Dan Schaefer is our guest.

If you're just joining Matt Nair on air, Civic Media's political editor and also the creator of the Recombobulation Area.

We're talking about Josh Kahl announcing he will not be jumping into the gubernatorial race.

Back to Mandela Barnes.

I don't think he should run.

I don't.

I just I really don't.

I think he's got he's got name recognition, but I don't know when it comes down to debating.

I don't I don't see him running away with it.

I don't.

I personally see you have someone like Keldoroi.

I mean, I'm not taking away of any of his time in government, but I feel like as far as people who have been working now.

The

nuts and bolts.

Well, the nuts and bolts, but also people working in this day and age in government in Wisconsin, especially massing Keldoroi's Francesca Hong and David Crowley too.

Like they come with this real world now experience.

And I feel like Mandela, he's a great.

Great guy great representation of like the party and its vision, but I don't think he's a strong candidate for governor.

I just don't

Yeah,

I was somewhat surprised.

So I put this question to the fine folks of Twitter.com this week to see what they would think of Mandela Barnes running.

So I just simply asked, should Mandela Barnes run for governor?

And I was, frankly, pretty surprised at how overwhelming the no vote was

in

that poll.

It was the pretty overwhelming majority of people said no.

in that poll that Mandela Barnes should not run again.

And I think when somebody loses a statewide race as close as that was, I think there's a lot of questions that people ask about that campaign.

And I think there's a Barnes.

2022 revisited column, I think I might write to take a look at what went well and what didn't in that campaign because I think in so many ways he overperformed expectations but also underperformed expectations.

It was both overrated and underrated

at the same

time in a weird way.

But I do think that the fact that he ran and lost,

Signals some doubt for a future campaign and I think we've seen it on the Republican side a number of times in recent years But they have ran somebody who has lost in a different race and it has not worked Well, so Tim Michaels ran for Senate in 2004 Then ran for governor in 2022 that didn't work out Brad Schimel ran lost in the race for AG in 2018 ran for Wisconsin Supreme Court didn't work out Dan Kelly running twice after being supported losing twice.

That's Dan Kelly with two L's

that hasn't worked out.

So I do think there is somewhat of a trend with Wisconsin voters seeing somebody lose a statewide race and not coming back from it.

I mean, look again to the Democratic side too.

Tom Barrett.

Russ Feingold.

Like this doesn't really always work out.

So I do, there's a lot of tough questions and Mandela Barnes needs to be asking himself right now.

We're going to keep recombobulating with Dan Schaefer.

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After the 1030 news, we're going to lighten it up with audio sorbet where we get away from the serious issues of the day.

Talk about lighter things.

Today, we're going to talk about this is a job I could not do.

Yeah, we're not talking about you're not physically able to do it.

If let's say you were in perfect physical condition and you could do any job you wanted to do, but you wouldn't do X. Yeah.

What is that job?

What is the job you would not do?

Julie from Wausau texted in earlier.

We'll save that.

But if you're not going to be able to be with us for the next 20 minutes or so, you can always text it in now at 855-752-4842.

Like I said, Dan Schaefer is here.

We are recombobulating.

We talked a little bit yesterday, Dan, about the suggestion in the city of Milwaukee to install

Red light cameras as a way to crack down on reckless driving was which is a continuing continuing issue in the city

It is a continuing issue in the city.

Yeah, they actually had a public hearing on this bill for Installing or allowing the city to install traffic cameras for red light cameras basically

And they had this public hearing at the on the summer fest grounds.

They had legislators from around the state brought to Milwaukee to to talk about this.

This is a bill that has been introduced a number of times over the years, but this is the first time it has actually had a public hearing.

So having this public hearing in Milwaukee having and the bill also has bipartisan support.

So it is being introduced by state senator from Milwaukee, Dora Drake.

She's been kind of the lead advocate for this for a number of years now.

And.

You know, they it has Republican support.

So the the Corey Tomsek, the head of the committee, their transportation committee in the Senate was also there at the public hearing.

And there is both Democratic and Republican support in both the Senate and the Assembly on this bill.

So I do think it has a chance of at least advancing forward through committees, whether it's, you know,

makes it through the Senate and the Assembly and to Tony Evers desk.

Obviously, that remains to be seen.

But, you know, this is an issue for me.

I've kind of gone back and forth on it

over the

years where I think, like, obviously Milwaukee has a terrible problem with reckless driving.

You know, there are so many issues about Milwaukee that I will go to bat for and say, like, you know, Milwaukee's being unfairly maligned for this or unfairly, you know, treated for that.

Right.

I cannot defend the driving that happens.

in the city.

It is absolutely ridiculous.

We have some of the worst driving anywhere in America in the city of Milwaukee.

I can't stand it.

And I think, you know, there are a number of things with law enforcement when it comes to just kind of like automated enforcement or using technology or facial recognition software or different things like that that I do have real problems with.

But

I will say that I think they're running into certain constitutional problems, but you don't have a constitutional right to drive a car.

No, you don't.

And

so I think this is different in that sense, where it's just the one thing that you might be running into fourth amendment concerns or whatever it might be with talking to people, but you don't have a constitutional right to drive a car.

And

I do appreciate the focus that Mayor Cavalier Johnson has had since coming into office to install some of these traffic calming measures.

I do think they are helping.

The data shows it.

I think anecdotally, just driving through the city, people are slowing down when there are those traffic calming measures there because they have to.

But at the same time, I think we need every tool in the toolbox.

to fight this reckless driving problem that we have in the city.

And some of the statistics that Senator Drake shared at this public hearing are really stark, that more than 1,160 people have suffered fatal or life-changing injuries and speed-related crashes in Milwaukee over the past five years.

Like, this is just a day-to-day quality of life issue.

And I think this...

Problem has gotten so much worse over the past years too.

The Milwaukee traffic injuries and fatalities in Milwaukee have surged 86% since 2012.

I think more than 70 people died in car crashes in Milwaukee last year.

We have to take this seriously, and I think public officials are taking this more seriously, and I think this needs to be another tool in the toolbox, and I think we should pass it.

But it's just part of when we talked about this yesterday, Dan, the folks that were doing this driving, they don't care how many tickets they get.

You really think that that's gonna stop them?

They get a ticket because they blew through another red light?

They're gonna compile their tickets and keep them in the glove compartment and they don't care about that.

So I don't, I understand it's a step, it's an effort to do something, but I don't know that those people will care.

That's like, I personally, I would like to bring back public shaming and put them in a stockade so we can throw bad fruit at them and tell them they're naughty people.

That's not gonna work either because they don't care.

For many people it will not matter.

You're right

I think for many people, it will not matter.

I think it will matter enough for a percentage of the drivers that it's going to make a meaningful difference on people.

And I think some people who are maybe otherwise very good drivers and don't want to slip up and make a mistake and might just run a red light or something, I think it will matter enough to the people who it will make a difference for.

And I think there are other measures that can come to the people who are just the repeat offenders who don't care.

Like you said, there are.

many of those who clearly do not care and are not going to show up at court or pay their tickets or any of these things.

But I think it's going to matter enough to make a difference.

All right.

Well, we will continue.

We're going to lighten things up when we return.

We have news coming up next.

And then we're going to talk.

Audio Sorbet and what job you could not do.

What is the job?

We'll kick that around coming up next.

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Dan Schaefer is here.

And when we went to break, Dan, Greg and I were talking off the air.

There is so much to cover that we don't always get around to.

We wanted to talk about the ice raid in Chicago.

Something breaking this morning that I think is worth a mention, Pete Hegseth, the Department of Defense Secretary, is proud to announce today we're signing a letter of acceptance to build a Katari Emery Air Force facility at Mountain Home Air Base in Idaho.

So the government's shut down, we have no money.

There's no money for health care.

There's no money to feed kids.

But we're going to build an air base for the Qatar government.

Oh, that's right, because Trump got a free plane.

Anyway, these are the things we didn't have time to talk about today.

So starting next week, Dan Schaefer is going to join us for an extended period of time so we can...

kick around all this stuff.

So much recombobulation that must happen.

You will be joining us at 9 35 from now on.

And we're going to talk about all the news,

all the things segments always go too fast.

Yeah, we need

more.

We need more time to recombobulate.

These times are extra discombobulating.

So we need extra time to recombobulate.

Exactly.

It's also to when we're in when we're in this portion of the show, the 10 35 portion where I want to feel light and fresh and airy and you start talking about Katari Air Force bases.

That's

why we call this portion of the program, Audio Sorbet, where what do we do, Greg Buck?

So here is today's Audio Sorbet topic.

What job could you not do?

We're not talking about physical limitations.

Let's say you have all the mental faculties and you have all the physical things you need in order to do anything.

But even so, you could not do X. What is the job you could not do?

855-752-4842, that is today's audio survey subject.

We were talking about this yesterday.

Yeah, we were talking about the beforehand.

We were talking about what some comedians do when they cannot, when they no longer getting booked as much as they used to, and they have to finally find

a job job a job in the real world and many of them will go into real estate it's independent you're your own boss and you know it's really depends on how much you i mean that's the thing is it really depends on how much you can hustle if you want to be a successful real estate agent especially in the beginning you are working all the time you're basically on call all the time if someone wants to see a house

you have to prepare yourself to maybe leave your kid's birthday party because they want to see it now because there's a commission tied to it.

And as performative as real estate can be, and it's like, hi, welcome to the house and everything.

And you know, here's the thing.

And here's some cookies and blah, blah.

I could never do that job.

That is not even a job on my, well, if I lost everything today, I could go into this thing.

Real estate would never be on the list, ever.

I cannot

Do that.

It just seems... And some people are built for it.

There are some people out there who are born sale people.

Oh, and they love it.

But for me personally, it feels, and I'm sorry if this offends any of our real estate agents are out there, it feels soul-sucking.

For me personally.

I

know folks who love, who love it.

Yes.

And if you like, I love houses.

I love old houses.

I like getting into other people's houses.

So

I would probably

like that.

I love entering through the door.

I like breaking in through a window.

It doesn't matter as long as I'm getting that house.

I just want to see what it looks like.

855-752-4842.

What is a job you could not do?

That's today's audio survey subject.

Julie from Wausau texting in about an hour ago because she wasn't able to be here.

He says, I could not work at a meat processing plant.

Understood.

Thank you to the immigrants who do this work.

Excellent point, Julia.

I knew someone.

I worked with someone a number of years ago who worked at a meat processing plant in Arkansas.

The stories were... Yeah, I couldn't do that either.

Dan, do you have a job or jobs that you're just...

No way.

No, how it's not on the list.

It's not on that sideless, not a nothing.

You're like, nope, can never do that job.

So the first thing I thought of when you, when you mentioned this was.

anybody who has to do a job where they are very high up.

I am not great with heights.

I

think I've mentioned this before.

Yes.

On the show.

So honestly, I feel like it's the most logical phobia to have is a lot of people are afraid of heights.

Yep.

Right.

So like, you know, those guys who will go way up on tall buildings and clean the windows outside.

Yeah, absolutely not.

No, thank you.

I could never do that job.

No window washing ever.

I always have so much respect for the people who who do that job because it seemed I just like in no version of me could I

be up hanging there and like scrubbing the windows and all of that, it just seems insane.

I could never do that.

That's like, have you seen photos from like 1940s and even earlier from New York City when they were building New York and the guys who worked on those skyscrapers with no safety belts and they're sitting on a strut 50 stories above the ground with their feet over the edge having lunch?

Yeah,

insane.

No, that's why the kids are soft days Fun really super duper quick side note I used to work with a guy who's a side hustle was in that in the washing of windows industry And he would tell me all the time never call me a window washer.

I'm a window cleaner I'm like Craig you need to sit down and take your life a little more seriously because that's a ridiculous statement to stay out loud to people What is the

distinction?

I think I think window washer for him

brings up this like, you know, I just washed windows and, and, and, and if you are, if you are in the industry, like your job is about making sure it's the cleanest, nicest, and there's more than just then the window.

There's more to it.

So I think it's, it's a, it's a denigration.

I'll say the

matter of respect.

Basically like it's, you think of maybe someone like a Dick Van Dyke and Mary Poppins is, I'm going to wash some windows.

You know, so.

What job could

you- I'm sorry, what was

that accent?