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There's a lot to talk about with Mr. Santel.
The Trump administration has all kinds of lawsuits working its way through various courts.
And there is a judge
Who checked in this week about the Trump administration deporting college students?
Mm-hmm Pretty blistering gotcha pretty blistering So Jim Santel is gonna join us after the 930 news to talk about that among many many many other things in our number two journal Sentinel sports guru JR Radcliffe will be here to talk all things sports Of course one we will find out later today who the Brewers are gonna face
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I can't.
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I don't want to play the Cubs because I don't want them here.
And I don't want to play the Padres because Manny Machado is awful.
That's what I'll just say for that moment right now.
Okay.
Well, we will
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Wanted to start off with the Wisconsin Supreme Court race.
That's coming up too.
And that's the
spring one.
Yes.
That will be, and
that's
gonna
be the first of it.
The first, right?
It's
like six months away now.
It's gonna be here before you know
it.
It's a
primer, if you will.
Exactly.
Appeals Court Judge Maria Lazar, Lazar.
Lazar,
Lazar.
Lazar pointer has announced she is running for a spot on the Wisconsin Supreme Court since her election.
This is from the Wisconsin examiner since her election to the district two court of appeals in 2022.
She has been a reliable vote for right wing causes controlled by a three to one conservative majority.
And so far now, Rebecca Bradley is going,
There's another me to take my place.
Yeah, because Rebecca Bradley who's currently sitting on the Wisconsin State Supreme Court made the announcement a few weeks ago that she will not be seeking reelection even though it seemed that when Susan Crawford was elected, it seemed like she was moving towards there.
But based on the fact that she had raised no money.
Yeah, that didn't look good.
Experts had said that she's probably, and then she decided, which is honestly, I mean, I don't think
Maria Lazar, Lazar, I'm gonna say Lazar, is any real difference from Rebecca Bradley, but her election night comments were so, in my opinion, unprofessional.
Absolutely.
And like, to say political is an understatement, it was basically listening to a Donald Trump.
Acolyte.
Acolyte slash, yeah.
Acolyte, actually I wouldn't even go further than that, but yeah.
It was so it was shocking to me the way she was speaking.
She wasn't even trying to hide her disdain for the left period and her colleagues.
So her not being a part of this is I think is a better thing for the court.
But I don't know how with with what Judge Lazar brings the table with regard to her decisions and relationships.
I don't know she's going to be much of a difference.
Well, we can look at who supports her.
Yeah.
Oh, let's look at that.
Her endorsements.
Yes.
Include former Supreme Court Justice Michael Gabelman.
You remember Mike Gableman?
Soon to possibly not be lawyer anymore?
Michael Gableman recently agreed to have his law license suspended for three years over that debacle that was a $2.1 million worth of taxpayer money that we paid Michael Gableman to find all the fraud in the 2020 election.
None of which came to pass by the way.
They didn't find any fraud.
And Robin Voss had to say that the 2020 election was safe and secure, which I'm sure had to
have been really
painful.
He hated doing.
I'm
sure.
Still washing his mouth out with with lava soap.
So Ms.
Lazar has the endorsement of Michael Gabelman, Jim Trupas.
He's also facing criminal charges for his role in the plots to cast those fake elector votes on behalf of Donald Trump and another supporter, Bob Spindel.
Well,
Also, a Republican member of the Wisconsin Elections Commission who cast one of those fraudulent ballots and has regularly used his job to spread conspiracy theories about elections.
Because that's what you do.
Well, if you want the party endorsement, you've got to go along with the party line.
Good heavens, Trump brought this up when he talked to all of our military leaders the other day, that he won the 2020 election.
He is still ranting about that, you guys.
Still well.
Yeah, because he because when you're up there for that long You don't have much to talk about and also let us I wanted to make sure I knew this was a fact But I want to be looking at it and this is coming from with politics as part of the press release She was an assistant DA for then Waukesha DA Brad Schimmel So she has I mean just short of going out with Daniel Kelly in high school.
She has all sorts of ties to the Republican
past She also defended
Act 10, the anti-union legislation that, along with 32, gutted our teachers' union and no longer allows them to collectively bargain.
So she defended that one as well.
And- She
also has a lot of support from ProLife Wisconsin.
Yes.
Which is dedicated to banning all abortions
in the
state.
And I believe ProLife Wisconsin also wants to get rid of all forms of birth control.
Oh, of course, yeah.
Except
for the rhythm method, because that's so reliable.
Just ask my cousin with five kids.
Anyway.
She also has been known to give talks to, and I can't believe it, because it's the 1900s, the Federalist Society.
So, yeah.
Yeah, that's still a very powerful organization.
Yes, it is.
But we can
make jokes about it.
But that's a
that's a I'm not making jokes about it.
I'm just saying when I hear the Federalist Society, I also expect an old guy to tell me to get off his lawn.
Like, you don't hear them talked about a lot.
So yeah, it's a it's she will be a
expected replacement of probably Rebecca Bradley's intentions and opinions.
We
can swap them out, you know.
Here is what Maria Laser said, quote, we need to draw a line in the sand and stop the destruction of our courts, especially our state Supreme Court.
We are bombarded by political ads for a judicial position.
That is true.
My candidacy will be different, unquote.
Oh, really?
Sure.
How will it be different?
She says I'm not a member of a political party My opponents spent years in the legislature Okay,
all right
On the other side Taylor's campaign manager just like Rebecca Bradley Maria laser has spent her career rolling back people's rights attacking at reproductive health care and voting rights
and doing the bidding of powerful special interests, speaking of the Federalist Society, and her billionaire friends, if elected, she will become the most extreme member of the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
And I just find it interesting that they need someone ideologically super far right because Hagedorn has turned out to be such an enormous disappointment to
them.
Hagedorn is just doing what I mean that seems to kind of like follow law Yeah, logic law application of past decisions to new decisions precedent.
It's just oh well, which by the way Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas said that precedence precedent Doesn't really matter anymore.
What a shocker there
Ooh, I'm stunned.
Yeah, it's it's it's almost like they can just do precedence mess it in whatever they want Yeah, I kind
of kind of feels like that Mm-hmm.
That's something we'll be talking about with Jim Santel
Oh,
sure.
It's so exhausting.
If you are just joining us on matinee on air, we were talking about the news that conservative Judge Maria Lazar is running for Wisconsin Supreme Court.
So far, she is the only conservative to announce for the 2026 race.
She used her messaging when she came out with her ad announcing her candidacy to attack District Four Appeals Court Judge Chris Taylor, who is running with a backing of Democrats.
I've said this before and I'll keep saying this.
I'm not a fan of this kind of election.
As far as all the money coming in?
Well, the money coming in, the fact that a judge has to take sides to get votes, that a judge has to make the most political statements without being political, because these are supposed to be non-political appointments.
I would love to say, well, just let the governor appoint them.
But unfortunately, we live in a day and age where that's not a good idea anymore either.
I mean, who knows Chris Taylor could win next year.
And if the Republicans still control, well, they will at that point, they will still control the, the, the legislature.
Maybe they'll just find a way to not even to seat the judge, seat the judge.
I mean, right now we're still waiting for a Congresswoman to get sworn in in the U S Congress, but they're not doing it chain cause they're just so busy.
No, they're not going to, they're not going to swear in that Democrat in the house.
Yeah.
because she could cast the deciding vote to release the Epstein files.
And if we've learned nothing, we have learned that the Republicans really, really, really, really, really don't want that to get released.
It's really weird because it was only like a year ago that where they were saying, why aren't they releasing the Epstein files
right now?
We want the files.
We
want the files right now.
Give me the files.
And now Cash Patel is saying, you know, what are we really guys guys?
What do we really know about this?
I mean, let's be
let's take it down and out.
Let's get some brunch.
It's fine.
Let's talk about stuff.
Other stuff.
Epstein files.
I don't know who's Epstein.
I don't even know if I've ever heard of this guy.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's it's ridiculous and I'm tired of it.
I'm tired of them and I'm it's so frustrating.
Is there a wall Jane in this room?
I can just hit my face against for a while.
Do you want something soft?
Well, we have the insulate, you know, we have the sound panels up on this wall.
You could try it.
That would be less damaging.
Otherwise, there's the hardwood door right behind you.
Well, let's just start for the soft
panel
and go
from there.
Start there.
And also, and also, I know I'm sounding very dour.
And so I'll just say this again.
My vote.wi.gov.
Find out your representatives.
Let them know what you're feeling.
Make sure you're registered to vote.
Because the primary for the spring election will be sooner than the spring election, so you want to find out if you are still registered.
Do that.
Myvote.wi.gov today.
Remember when the president said, I don't know anything about Project 2025, except I know there are parts in it I don't like.
Guess who he's meeting with today, the author of said project 2025, which he's never heard of.
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But we did want to share with you that Donald Trump, President Trump, meeting with Project
2025 architect Russell Vogt.
Jay, and I just want to say something really quick.
I know you've been talking a lot about Project 2025 on the show.
For months.
Months, actually, probably about more than a year now.
I've never heard of this book.
I don't know anything about it.
My friends have never heard of this stuff.
I don't know why you insist on making such a big deal out of something that doesn't seem to be important.
Why do we even pay attention to this?
Was it Project 2025?
He does call Project 2025.
I feel like you're wasting our time right now.
Well, see, if you actually looked at Project 2025.
I don't
read Jane.
Well, that's OK.
Take my word for it.
They are already implementing many things from Project 2025.
Oh,
yeah.
Many things have already been done.
And we keep heading that way.
Just as a reminder, Donald Trump claimed, back when we first started talking about Project 2025, he had never heard of it.
Didn't know anything about it except he knew that he didn't like parts of it So how he didn't know anything about it and yet knew there were parts he didn't like I have questions about that But here is what he put on social media president of the United States.
I have a meeting today with Russ vote He of project 2025 fame the guy you've never heard of to determine which of the many Democrat agencies Are
only Democratic
Like the EPA is a Democratic agency, you know started by Richard Nixon to determine which of the many Democratic agencies most of which are a political scam He recommends be cut and whether or not those cuts will be temporary or permanent I can't believe radical left Democrats gave me this unprecedented opportunity.
They are not stupid people So maybe this is their way of wanting to quietly and quickly Make America great again.
Oh
my god
So, Project 2025, President Trump is going to make America great again, is what you're saying.
That
Project 2025 you knew nothing about didn't have any connections with except for the parts that you knew you didn't like even though you never read it.
But he's gonna meet with them today.
And Jane, what happened was the Democrats took over, I'm sorry, the Democrat party took over all of these agencies long ago so they could infiltrate them so then President Trump could come in.
On his first term, then get voted out by Joe Biden in 2020.
That's right, he lost the election in 2020.
And then get reelected in 2024, only to come back around, allow the government to get shut down.
Therefore, he and Russell vote, author, lead author of Project 2025, a book I've never heard of, can go in and shut down these agencies, which the Democrat party secretly infiltrated years ago.
So they can all make it happen, because we're all making America great again.
It's
amazing to me.
There are all kinds of people that work for the federal government.
Yes.
Many different stripes of people.
Correct.
Yes.
I don't understand this assumption that everyone who works for the federal government is a Democrat.
And what they are doing is going to harm everyone, no matter how you vote.
Yes.
No matter how you vote, these policies and these changes and these tariffs are bad for all of us little people.
Because it's us little people that it's going to harm.
The Russell votes and the Tim Scots and the even Chuck Schumer, they're all going to be just fine.
They're all millionaires.
Exactly.
They're all millionaires, if not more.
Yeah, this is... Yeah.
This is about taking advantage of the fact that we are a people.
And when I say we are the people, I don't even mean people who didn't, I mean, everyone.
We live in a society where news happens at such a rate that we can't keep up with everything.
And sometimes you gotta shrug your shoulder and say, I got work to do.
So I can't really pay attention to this.
And we get that.
And I understand that completely.
And we knew that by when...
When Charlie Kirk was tragically murdered, people were saying, he seemed like a nice guy and had no idea what his real message was about, because not everyone can pay attention to it all the time.
And we get that.
But what's frustrating is that folks who voted for Donald Trump, who don't make a billion dollars, are going to have their services cut, are going to lose tax money.
It's going to be bad.
For
all of us, little people.
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Jim Santel, our friend, colleague, and host of Amicus a Law Review.
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I highly encourage you to listen from 9 to 11 across the network.
Good morning, Jim.
How are you?
never heard of it.
He knew he didn't like it parts of it, but he never heard of it before.
And now today he seems to recognize that Russell votes the head of the Office of Management and Budget was the lead author of Project 2025.
Some of us, I guess, are just slow learners, Jim.
understand what you guys are talking about, man.
I've only
three books,
Code.
I read it again and portions of the Bible when it fits my narrative.
So I don't know, you guys just talk about whatever you want.
You'll just take my take our word
for it.
OK, just take our word for it.
A lot of things I wanted to talk to you about today, Jim, we call it the.
The wheel of lawsuits, the wheel of litigation with the Trump administration, because there are so many different lawsuits going on, but a couple have really jumped out at me.
This one from US District Judge William Young, who found that the Trump administration wrongly ordered the deportation of pro-Palestinian students.
Now, I believe this ties to one case in particular where a young woman had written an opinion piece.
in a college newsletter, never mentioned Hamas or the Palestinian people or anything like that, but they grabbed her, they grabbed her off the street and tried to deport her.
She was not deported.
But the judge wrote, alone I have nothing but my sense of duty.
Together, we, the people of the United States, have our magnificent constitution.
The judge went on to explain why he ruled against the administration saying, quote, this court finds as fact and concludes as a matter of law that secretaries Nome and Rubio and their agents of subordinates acted in concert to misuse the sweeping powers of their offices to target non-citizen pro-Palestinians for deportation.
primarily on account of their First Amendment protected political speech.
They did so continues the judge to strike fear into similarly situated non-citizen pro-Palestinian individuals, curbing lawful speech, and intentionally denying such people the freedom of speech.
And Judge Young, again, takes his place among this increasing number of judges that we've spoken about at great length on this wonderful broadcast who are saying no, right?
I think one of the great bastions.
This is a good news and an otherwise very challenging Thursday morning.
You have federal district court judges.
Appointed for life this one happens to be appointed not by a Democrat by a but a Republican his name is Ronald Reagan He used to be the president United States of America.
I've heard of him.
Yeah, yes, exactly even though
Greg purports not to have heard of Project 2025.
I suspect he has heard of Ronald Reagan, who appointed this good judge.
You may recall also that this is also the judge who ran a follow of two Supreme Court justices who chastised him for not following their clear directions when it came to some NIH grants.
And he said, you know what, I never intended to disrespect you.
I just didn't know that the shadow docket when you issue a one line statement about what should happen here in another case.
unrelated to the NIH, I didn't know I had to follow that.
And then to add even more craziness to this already catastrophic series of events, you've got former Justice Breyer weighing in and saying, no, Judge Young is a good judge.
How could he know?
You don't know what you're doing, Supreme Court.
So that's the back story behind all this.
But Judge Young, again, my other favorite piece of this is Jane and Greg
161 pages.
And you have highlighted some of the most telling language here.
What's going on there?
Why is he writing this?
He is also by virtue of the fact that he's spending 161 pages also sending a message to the Supreme Court that criticized him that seems not to be able to write more than one sentence.
Here's one federal district court judge with two
law clerks, Supreme Court justices have four, maybe five of them.
He spends the time on this very important First Amendment case.
explaining his reasons, giving justification, telling the American public why does he's doing what he's doing, creating an appellate record if indeed this goes up.
All the things that what?
Let's all say it together.
The Supreme Court should be doing, but it's not.
And I have to believe that that in and of itself, even the extensive nature of what he has written, the content first most important, but also the fact that he spent the time coming to the conclusion
that the government, once again, is in violation of the Constitution of the United States of America, implicitly saying that just because you're not a citizen doesn't mean it doesn't apply.
You've got First Amendment rights, as did this petitioner, and you are wrong to deport her to try to shut her up.
good for him.
And then he also goes beyond just his ruling and says this, as you know, well, he says, I fear President Trump believes the American people are so divided that today they will not stand up for, fight for, defend their most precious constitutional values.
So long as they are lulled into thinking, their own personal interests are not affected.
Yes.
Finish this up by saying, is he correct?
That is a stunning thing for a judge to say.
That is a call for action, which again, federal district court judges are generally not inclined to do.
This judge, like so many others, he is angry with what has happened to the judiciary.
He's angry about what's happening with our courts.
And he is angry, yes, in a nonviolent way.
with the way our president is behaving.
And he sent that message loudly and clearly.
If you're just joining us on Met and Air on Air, Jim Santel is here.
Our colleague here at Civic Media, host of Amicus, a law review Saturday mornings, 9 to 11 across the network.
You really should check out the show.
It's great.
The other thing that jumped out at me on this, Jim, is he included a threatening postcard that
received
the very top of this.
Right.
Which essentially said, yeah, Trump has tanks and guns.
What do you got?
And I suspect once again, his law clerks, I'm guessing Judge Young, like me, is probably not sufficiently technologically adept to figure out how to post that in the official way that these things have got to be posted.
I know that I worked for a fellow judge many years ago, but he did it because he wanted to make the point once again that, yes, number one, judges are getting threatened.
in America for what they're doing.
And number two, is there an answer to that issue?
Basically, this person who sends this scurrilous, horrific postcard saying, go ahead, enforce what you want to do, big boy.
That's bullying at the highest level.
Yes, yes, the threat.
And he says, you know what?
Yeah, you know what?
I do have something.
It's called integrity, and it's called the Constitution.
And it is called a commitment to what America is all about.
You plainly don't understand that at all.
It is important that he, again, even above the case caption, that's where it shows up.
He's got this thing printed.
It's sort of a typographical format.
He's making a number of much related points here, all of which should be consumed.
even if you don't read every single one of those 161 pages, it's there and it's accessible.
And it's a lesson to America, right?
But the other thing that jumped out at me about this, Jim, was because the federal government, the Guten Squad now that is going out across America, calling themselves ICE, and they're allowed to mask themselves ostensibly because they are getting threatened and they're being doxxed.
We have judges.
We have election workers.
We have all kinds of people across our country who have been threatened and doxxed.
Should all of our judges be hiding their identities?
If that logic applies to ICE, then shouldn't this apply to our federal, to all of our judges?
Right.
Absolutely.
My many other judges, a whole lot more visible.
Their homes are hopefully not in the public domain, although those could be inappropriately posted by people, but their federal courthouses are with their chambers numbers on them.
And we know that there have been federal judges whose families have not only been threatened, we have a judge whose son was killed at her own home.
And so I think the point you make, Jane, cannot be overstated.
Here are judges who are willing to say the president is wrong.
and basically calling upon the people of the United States of America not to rise up, but to push back and say there's something more important than your own ego, Mr. President, and doing it, doing it, signing it, here I am, and being very visible of who he is.
We've got these other quasi-military and military people descending upon the cities of America, and we don't know their names.
We don't know their faces.
it is completely inconsistent.
And frankly, even the Department of Justice, if I recall, there are some very limited opportunities, yes, options where you can, in fact, mask your face.
These are not those you want transparency, right?
Yeah,
this isn't it.
We don't know if these if the ICE guys, if they're all January 6th defendants, right?
They could be all proud boys, they could be all oath keepers, they could be all three percenters.
We don't know anything about these people.
That's not good.
It's
We'll give you a gun and you can go practice on people.
Because that's what Donald Trump said when he addressed our military earlier.
That's what Hexeth said.
No, that's what
the president said.
What we should be using our cities as training grounds.
That sounds really
dangerous.
And sort of an offshoot of this, when I think of things like that, I just think of our government saying, we don't have enough money to pay for X, Y, and Z. Our farmers are getting constantly screwed over for whatever, because they can, because the government's been doing that to them for decades.
But yes, we can pay individuals bonuses to illegally round up individuals who should not be arrested.
Or as I'm now just seeing,
just beating people up in the street.
And
manufacturing felonies.
I've seen a couple things in the last couple of days where there have been some protesters.
There was a 69-year-old man who apparently moved his arm and inadvertently touched an ice agent.
A 69-year-old man shoved him to the ground, jumped on him.
Now he's being charged with a felony.
And again, what you've got there is complicity, right?
Not only on the streets of America, but charging decisions made.
Thankfully, there are still some people inside the government with some cooler minds who look at these things and say, can't do it.
But that, again, as you often said, it's the investigation.
It's the charge that is the punishment.
If in the end it doesn't result in the conviction, that's not the point.
And that's not the point that the president wants to make.
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Jim, we wanted to talk a little bit about the Supreme Court begins its new term on Monday.
Are they actually going to talk about things like the public gets to hear?
Are they just going to issue all shadow dockets and not have to explain anything?
We'll see exactly.
They hardly went out of business, didn't they?
I think we were talking back in June about the fact that, well, now they're going to go quiet.
But in fact, they've been issuing all of these affirmations, I should say, of executive orders throughout the, so it hardly seems as if there's anything new going on.
But Monday is the first Monday in October, and that means that the new Supreme Court term, it's 2025.
2026, it gets underway.
They do have oral arguments.
Believe it or not, the Supreme Court is still doing that, that quaint historical thing.
It's like it's calling attorneys in.
That's so
historical.
your favorite team wears their old jersey, they're doing
Yeah, retro court.
There it is.
Yeah.
Right, right.
And indeed, they're studying Monday.
And again, this is the way it should work, which is the Supreme Court says, OK, the lower court judgments are completed.
Let's review those now.
Let's have briefs.
Let's have the lawyers can imagine this.
Let's have the lawyers write lots and lots of paper about all these things.
We'll read all those.
We'll have our law clerks summarize those.
We'll call you in.
We'll have oral argument about all this.
And yes, they're starting that once again.
They've got about 34, 35 cases on their docket.
right now.
The interesting thing about that, Jane and Greg, is that by now, usually they've got maybe about 40 or more, usually, and then about 60.
My guess is that they're waiting because many of these shadow docket opinions are now going to be coming back.
Now that the lower courts have reduced them to judgment, it may well be, we don't know, we know some of them are already on the docket, it may well be that they're anticipating now finally reviewing the substance of these as opposed to issuing these one sentence orders.
and undermining it again the way we do it.
But yes, indeed, they're back in business.
It's everything.
Yes, tariffs is on the schedule, right?
And again, whether or not they should overturn the lower courts that have said, you can't do this, Mr. President, that'll be a fascinating one to see if John Roberts wants to once again amend the Constitution, article one that says,
Who is responsible for tariffs?
Congress.
Let's all say it together.
Congress.
Congress.
That's right, exactly.
They're the ones who do this.
That's
their only job.
It's the power
That's their only job, right?
Not to be outdone, it may be that that voting rights case from Louisiana, that one that's called Calais, remember that name, C-A-L-L-A-I-S, and this may be the one in which the Supreme Court is dabbling with the notion, hold on, of basically finding the Voting Rights Act unconstitutional in violation of the 14th Amendment, not making that up, not making that up.
We hope, of course, hoping and praying they do not do that, but it's sort of on the docket again.
voting rights, right?
If you're not satisfied with that, you can find some solace, perhaps, or not solace in the fact that they're also looking at things like conversion therapy.
Roundly dismissed by every legitimate medical authority on the face of the planet.
Can that be legislated away?
That sort of thing.
Also looking at, yes, transgender women in sports, transgender sports issues on the Supreme Court docket.
Campaign finance is there.
There's a religious case involving a prisoner who had his dreadlocks cut by his jailers, and he's alleging that that's in violation of his religious rights under a statute.
Religion is back.
So all kinds of things on the docket.
And again, even as they say they might allow Jane going back to your comments in the prior segment, you think about all these things.
Yes, Supreme Court's got to resolve differences.
Where is our Congress?
Wouldn't you be a whole lot more satisfied if the representatives that they themselves are wrestling with these social issues?
And again, 535 members of the people in our Congress, senators and House of Representatives members, are wrestling with these things instead because of Congress's default and an overwrought president who does whatever he wants.
Now, policy decisions being made in America by
the United States Supreme Court.
That was not the design.
That was not it.
We'll see how that plays out again in this coming term starting.
on Monday.
I'm surprised Clarence Thomas can pull himself away from all his free around the world trips on fancy yachts and stuff.
He's got other priorities, Jim.
This is really cut into his vacation time.
And maybe he's reading Project 2025.
We don't know.
But we do know, we do know that he's also pontificating out there and saying things like Jane.
precedent, how that's an interesting concept.
Maybe we should be rethinking that.
This is the man who, again, in the last term also said, maybe we need to rethink the enforcement of Brown versus Board of Education.
Oh my, oh my.
Oh my is right.
It is a lot.
It is a lot, as you often say, and we'll see what the Supreme Court delivers to us.
We'll talk about every one of those and we can also, you can also hear them argue.
You actually hear the Supreme Court justices talking with the attorneys.
You can go online and hear Sonia Sotomayor spar with Amy Coney Barrett and that sort of thing.
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Thank you so much, my friend.
We will see you next Thursday.
Always a pleasure, Jenny.
Great.
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