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Yeah, that Packers overtime game.
Hmm.
Hey,
guys, we're
we're done.
40 40 tie.
with the Cowboys
If you go to civicmedia.us Slash shows go to Matt and Aaron Aaron go to this last Thursday's episode wouldn't second hours that'd be the second posting I don't remember the name of the episode top of my hand, but if you listen that episode our discussion with Paul noon and at the end of it specifically he says There's no way the Cowboys win.
Well, he was half right well
Yeah, that's true.
They didn't win.
They didn't win.
They didn't lose.
We went full on European football
and went for
the tie.
Sorry, Americans.
Could have been 0-0.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
40-40, great tennis score.
I mean, that's wonderful too.
But yeah, I saw the OT and it was winding down and it was 37-40.
I'm like, oh my gosh, the Cowboys are going to win.
And then I woke up this morning and I looked and I'm like, what?
Yeah.
Cause ties just don't really happen that often
in football.
Not in
football,
not in professional football.
And I don't know, Calvin, if you can answer this for me, do they only do one overtime?
Cause I know in baseball, well, those are X trainings.
It's who scores first.
Yeah.
So it's a long critique flaw of the NFL overtime system.
It used to be whoever scored first and then they changed it to both teams got it.
Or the other team got a chance to have the ball if the first team scored only a field goal.
Now they changed it to where both teams get a chance to possess the ball no matter what.
But it can still end in a tie, which is different than college football where college football has a completely different system where you just go back and forth until one team scores and one team doesn't and then it ends.
So it usually happens like once a season a game ends in a tie.
So it's not.
uncommon, but it's definitely not rare.
I guess I just don't
understand why is that sport of all sports?
Like why not just adopt what almost any other sport does, which is you do the overtime and whoever, whomever at the end of it has more points is the winner.
And if, if there is a double overtime, you can do it.
Me, I don't know.
I'd be on that.
I couldn't imagine double overtime in football, but you know, it seems so convoluted to
Cause as far as I remembered, it was always, as you said, Calvin, it was the first team to score in the overtime wins period.
That's it.
Done.
Right.
Which I didn't, I never liked because I just don't think that's fair.
But now it's like, well, we can do this thing.
You do that.
Just give, just play football for however many times in the, in the OT.
And then at the end of that, there you go.
It seems pretty simple.
Apparently not.
No, we get, we get a tie instead.
And I'm sure people in Wisconsin are like, this is great.
Well.
And that was last night's game.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Two one in one now.
You stayed all the way up for that.
On the really good side, the Brewers have locked up the best record in the league.
That's right.
Got a set of franchise record.
That's right.
They have now home field advantage.
That's right.
And a week off, which they need.
That's right, everybody.
The Brewers are somehow, I don't know, because this weekend was not stellar, but that's
Baseball it's mathematics all the way and I want to say something else shout out to the Brewers because in that Stand the Reds also clinched the wild
card
So the Brewers put their logo up so they could take pictures as well.
That was a
really classy
thing.
Yes
That is the Brewers all the way in my opinion and I say one to the all all the people involved in that because I saw that at first I'm like, I don't understand what this is then I read I'm like
That's so nice.
I mean, if you you can find it, I think it's in the Milwaukee Journal.
So there's a big picture of it.
But yeah, they put up this great big graphic for for Cincinnati and and gave them a chance to celebrate, too, which again, I thought that was just a
classic.
So the Brewers will begin the NLDS on Saturday.
Our opponent will be the winner of the Cubs Padres wild card match, which starts today.
OK, and we'll know by we'll know in a couple of days who they're facing.
You know, as Paul put it, it would be, I think it would be best to have the Padres for many, many reasons, but yeah, we'll see what happens in those games because it's going to be.
It's exciting.
It's exciting.
It's I mean, it's nice to not have to worry about like getting a while because that's what happened before.
We
get a card game and then we
lose and we lose and we're out and it's like we got the postseason.
I'm like, yeah, it's sort of but okay.
But yes, very, very exciting.
Very, very excited for the Brewers.
Very wearing my brew.
One of my Brewers jerseys
today.
Thank you Cassandra.
I was going to say you've had several compliments on that.
And Kevin and Ambrose says there were three ties last year.
Wow.
I did not know that Kevin.
Thank you for that.
Okay, we do want to get to actual news.
Oh, that's right.
We're radio show we are radio show a couple of changes as far as the governor's race here in Wisconsin happened over the weekend Yes, one person is out another one is in I wonder who dropped out already Republican businessman Bill Barion has dropped out of the race for governor This is from the Wisconsin examiner Whitefish Bay manufacturer Bill Barion dropping out
saying he does not see a way for him to win the GOP nomination.
Beren, who tried to compare himself to Donald Trump as a way of appealing to people, cited two reports from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinelist Week as his reason for it leaving the race, saying they were, quote, clearly targeted to force me out of the race, unquote.
Okay, let's... I have questions.
Okay.
So the journal Sentinel...
And this was Dan Bice.
And this is what Dan Bice does.
He's an investigative reporter and he looks for muck.
He takes feathers and he ruffles them.
He does.
And he's been doing this for a long time.
Journal Sentinel articles found that Barry had scrubbed the accounts he was following online.
There's more details.
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Before we went to the break, we were talking about one person is in, one person is out.
of the of the governor's race here in Wisconsin, Bill Barian, the Republican, has dropped out saying it's because of the journal Sentinel going after him and finding out he had followed some interesting, interesting people online.
He followed a queer, trans, non-binary adult film performer along with authors of sexually explicit essays.
Barian had entered the race talking about he's a conservative.
He's got conservative family values.
The Barian campaign tried to downplay it this week.
This was in the Wisconsin Examiner, but it traveled across the internet.
And one of the things was it's, it's the going after people.
It's the hypocrisy.
It's the
hypocrisy.
It's always the hypocrisy in it all, folks.
It's always that.
And the, he says, this was a, Barian says, this was a major attack piece.
And for what?
for reading.
Nothing illegal, nothing unethical, nothing immoral, just reading.
Wouldn't you want your political and business leaders to be widely read?
Yes, I would.
And in my estimation, this was his opportunity to explain what he had learned from following these accounts.
Yeah.
But there are also
other ways of well first of all like just like a number one like when you're going to run for an office like governor and you are going to run as a conservative mega candidate your social media better be squeaky clean from top to bottom that's just all there is to
it well that's the automatic go-to right now for anybody who is up for anything
but my thought too is that look hey you want to learn great
I love that.
I want people to learn.
I want people to understand that these individuals pose no threat to our democracy, no threat to our children, no threat to anybody in a grand conspiratorial scheme as they've tried to put out there.
And yes, you can find out things from these individuals.
I'm sure I'm sure they'd be, I've never, I don't know these individuals.
I don't know their online presence, but I would bet dollars to donuts that they have
you know, information they're trying to relay as far as what their experiences are in the world.
But there are other official ways you can say where you'd be like, Hey, I've met with these people.
I've met with a trans ally group to talk about these things so I can become better informed.
I've spoken to these trans creators.
I've spoken to these individuals who are in the sphere of what I do not support, but I want to, there's a thousand better ways to do it than get
uptighten your britches when the press does a tiny bit of digging in your social media.
And now you want to turn it into, because the guy who says he wants to learn is now the guy saying, well, they're trying to do a hit piece.
No, they're doing their job.
They did the research.
You don't like that.
Own up to it.
And again, if you are following these various accounts to learn things, then tell us what you learned.
That could have diffused a whole lot of stuff.
Give us your insights now that you have been following these.
But instead, he tried to scrub them.
Internet is forever.
Internet is forever.
And that didn't work.
So Bill Barion is out.
Missy Hughes.
on the Democratic side, is in.
And who is Missy Hughes?
Missy Hughes, the former economic development chief under Tony Evers, has jumped into the gubernatorial race.
The 57-year-old, who again served as the CEO of the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation since 2019, stepped down, affirmed her post earlier this month.
She says, I'm not a politician, that's the point.
To create a prosperous economy for the future in all 72 counties,
We need a leader who knows what it takes to create jobs, support workers, and attract businesses.
And I do want to say that at least under Governor Evers, especially during COVID, he spends a lot of resources and a lot of attention on small businesses in Wisconsin.
Because as politicians will tell you...
They are the backbones of our nation.
Exactly.
And Missy Hughes is the one who helped implement those policies.
And I'm going to... The story about her announcement will be in the show notes.
Also, I'm going to look for the interview we did for her earlier this year, a few months ago, talking about her trip overseas with Governor Evers when tariffs...
new tariffs for being announced.
So that will be in the show notes as well.
When you go to civicmedia.us slash shows, look for Matt in there on air.
And that will all be in today's show notes with the links you need for those, for those discussions.
But yeah, I'll put that in there as well.
So you can get to, get to know her a little bit
and then we will certainly make a reach and hopefully get around the show.
We're going to have Kelly Roy's on is going to be joining us.
I believe on Wednesday tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow at
1006.
All right.
So again, we're going to try and get as many candidates on as possible.
We still got a long way to go before that.
We're more than a year out, folks.
It's hunker
down.
It's election season in Wisconsin again.
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lots of things going on.
Right before we stopped down for the bottom of the hour news, we were talking a little bit about Missy Hughes, who has jumped into the gubernatorial race on the Democratic side, and Bill Barion, who has pulled out on the Republican side.
Yeah, I heard you talking about that.
And hey, it's the fall before an election year.
So of course.
There's news over the weekend to talk about.
Missy Hughes is running for governor.
She joins a growing democratic field and, you know, where she's about 10 days out from quitting her job as the head of the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation, or they don't like when you say this, but we dick.
So.
So there we go.
Oh yeah.
I appreciate that because I've called it Weedick for years too until I think it was when we were talking to Missy and it's like, we don't call it that.
It's like, oh, okay.
I haven't seen that for a long time.
I just finally heard that actually.
We'll have it die hard.
Yeah, they really do.
But Missy Hughes has a long history in business, correct?
Yeah, she worked for 17 years
as an executive at Organic Valley out in the Driftless region.
I'm sure you've seen their milk and dairy products.
It's a dairy cooperative in the dairy state.
And she headed up a weedic and over, she was kind of handed a lot to deal with, right?
The pandemic, business recovery, she was also handed,
the Foxconn project you know we're still
still talking about of what will become of those that land and data centers and everything else, but renegotiating that deal is something that she pointed to in her announcement.
It's so nice of you to call it a deal.
I call it a boondoggle, the Foxconn con, essentially, but yes, you're right.
Missy Hughes actually had to step in and make this into something which they did.
They made a deal with Microsoft.
And that is a continually ongoing thing will happen.
We'll see what happens with that.
But then on the Republican side, as we mentioned, Bill Berion is out.
Yep, he announced last Friday, kind of in the Friday news jump.
I heard you reading from his announcement.
And I
think that's kind of interesting, right?
He said, I consider myself intellectually curious.
And I thought it was a strength to read widely and show a broader intellectual interest.
And said that, you know, the media had essentially painted a sensational picture of him following certain accounts and that this was the product of opposition research that started in January.
So, you know, that was a quick run.
it was but we
hardly knew you bill
well right but again i go back to if that was his explanation for following these accounts which i think is a legit i think that's legitimate then then explain what you learned from following those accounts instead of instead of trying to scrub them
yeah yeah i it also i feel like uh dan vice right
Dan
Bice is
like using using the, using the reporter, which I'm, I don't know if you personally have ever been the target of that, but using basic reporting that he is doing to say, this is what has happened.
This is what is out there.
This is what I found as a way of saying, well, it's because of the media.
No, it's because, well, you said opposition research there and other people did the research and we found the information and there, there it is.
And that's it.
And I just feel like Dan Bice should not be the scapegoat here.
Well, and it's not opposition research has been part of politics for decades.
Centuries, right?
Centuries.
That's nothing new, Shelley, right?
No, that's a well established part of the political process.
Yeah.
And I always appreciate a good Dan Bice article.
But I mean, he shouldn't be surprised that they were digging around because that's what happens.
This is just that's pretty standard.
in politics, and as Greg said, this has been going on forever.
It's been going on
forever.
So like I said, Bill Bice, I mean Bill Bice, my goodness, sorry.
So many names, so many people's names, everybody.
Bill Berry and we hardly knew thee, but we also, Charlie, got another very expected candidate dropping into the race last week with Tom Tiffany.
Yeah, it grew before it shrunk again in the Republican primary.
Tom Tiffany announced on the Dan O'Donnell show and then a day later had his launch event in a barn in Wausau.
I was there I joined WXCO reporter Isabella Nieto at this frankly very beautiful pastoral barn
you know in
Central Wisconsin and you know he's he's gonna be the frontrunner he's a former
State lawmaker, largely during the Walker administration.
He's also a former dam tender.
You guys know what that
is?
A what tender?
A dam tender.
A
dam tender.
Not the curse word.
Not the curse word.
Actual, actual physical
damage.
Shelly, Shelly, I know, I know what a dam tender is.
I know, I know what a dam tender.
But for those who don't let them know, tell them and, you know, inform them.
something I've learned in the last several months.
The dam tender is someone who makes sure that the dam is functional.
Tiffany described it as, you know, the gubernatorial candidate Tom Tiffany described it as getting paid to walk as dog.
I believe along the willow flowage, right?
But, you know, Wisconsin is also the state with, I think, the second worst record for dam failures.
So, you know, everything.
everything has a wider focus.
So one could say he's a damn failure.
Well, Greg,
she can't she can't comment on it.
I just I couldn't I couldn't I
couldn't resist the wonderful play on words.
Thank you.
I want to go back to are we paying Tom Tiffany to walk his dog?
longer a dam tender.
He's now a congressman, right?
But you know, that's how you got to start.
You got to start in local politics.
He's a state, he was a state lawmaker for many years during the Walker administration, notably one kind of the key.
Policy, I remember from him that ended up coming to fruition was lifting the mining moratorium in Wisconsin and he ended up doing that in 2017.
Former governor Scott Walker signed the bill into law in 2017, but that ended kind of a two decade long run in Wisconsin of no new kind of exploratory
metallic mining.
So, yeah.
And by the way, if you're just joining us, we are joined by Civic Media's news director, Shali Pittman.
Joined us every Monday at this time just to do a little recap in case so much news happens now on a daily basis and it doesn't stop on weekends.
So Shali is here to give us a little update on things.
And we've been talking about Bill Berrien is out of the gubernatorial race.
We have Wendy Hughes.
And Missy
Hughes is in on the Democratic side.
And of course, Tom Tiffany announcing as well.
I'm curious though, Shelley, as far as Tom Tiffany's record goes, I'm curious as what he's going to tell people he did for Wisconsin as opposed to just things he stopped.
Well, you know, I am, I'm not, I'm not.
Congressman Tom Tiffany, but I know he touted things like Wisconsin's education record, or not touted, but pointed to Wisconsin's education record.
I think he listed a number of pretty straightforward Republican proposals.
I'm trying to remember, you can find her full article.
at WXBO though and you can also find the press video of the press scrum after his official announcement or official launch.
in a speech that he gave last Wednesday.
So I encourage you to go
and watch it.
You can check out all that stuff at XCO.
You can check out civicmedia.us slash news.
That's a great website with all of the news from all over Wisconsin.
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Also, we haven't talked about the popcorn king in a while.
Assembly Speaker Robin Voss could get
one wish partially granted regarding Michael Gabelman, everybody.
Remember Michael Gabelman?
So what's going on with Michael Gabelman?
Well, he could lose his law license at least for a couple of years or longer, or he could not.
It's up in the air, but a referee appointed, a court referee has recommended that
Michael Gabelman loose his law license for three years.
Of course, Michael Gabelman, the man behind the taxpayer probe into the 2020 election, who alleged vast conspiracy and the presidential results, but was not able to find it.
And of course, also a former justice on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
The case to advocate for Gabelman to lose his license was brought by the Liberal Legal Outfit Law Forward.
And in a statement last Friday, they said that a three-year suspension of his license wasn't enough.
And the final determination will be made by the State Supreme Court, his former...
you know,
coworkers boss.
Well, and I was
trying to do the
math and I was trying, and I just want to make clear too, at the beginning of when we talk about this too, this is something Robin Voss would like to see happen too, because it has been an embarrassment for Robin Voss because he's the one who appointed him.
And Robin Voss, because of everything that Michael Gabelman did, which as you said, Shali just now was taxpayer funded led Robin Voss to say the 2020 election was
safe and fine and secure.
Exactly.
Yeah.
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Civic Media News Director, Shaly Pittman is our guest.
She joins us every Monday at this time to do a little recap of the news because so much happens every day now in the news.
We wanted to talk a little bit about the environmental projects in Wisconsin.
Shaly, what can you tell us about that?
Especially about this, you had mentioned the mining now opening back up in northern Wisconsin.
I understand there's some movement there.
lot going on interrelated with politics and the environment.
So let's start with the mining exploratory drilling.
So a Canadian mining company called Greenlight Metals says it's found gold and copper in exploratory drilling in the Schwalmingen-Nicolet National Forest.
That's according to reporting from WPR.
And I wanted to highlight that there are here that here there's an opportunity for to learn more if you're in the area On what's next from green light metals this Friday in Medford at 6 p.m.
At the p-town saloon and grill
so Hey, if you live in that if you live in the if you live in that area would be a great idea for you to attend this
Yes.
I'd love to hear what they have to say.
This is kind of preliminary, so I think we have some a while to go, but this is kind of a testing area, but this could come to Wisconsin.
There's another environmental project, though, that's kind of the other part of the state in your neck of the woods.
that is happening tonight, or at least is inching forward tonight.
The village of Caledonia, near Racine, could inch closer to another Microsoft data center.
We talked about Foxconn before and how the village of Mount Pleasant has turned, or that old Foxconn facility or planned facility have been
turned in is being turned into a Microsoft data center.
Well, there's another one potentially coming to the village of Caledonia.
And so tonight, the village plan commission is slated to consider rezoning the land for that project.
I know we've heard a lot lately on the civic media radio network about all kinds of data center.
stuff, data centers all along Lake Michigan.
So I thought folks might might be interested in that.
And that's something, you know, I mean, we don't have a lot of time.
And I know this is probably a bigger all encompassing story.
But ever since the Microsoft announcement on the Foxconn land, I feel like it has just been a barrage of data center information coming through the news as far as businesses wanting to do that.
I've heard I've heard lobbyist commercials on the radio.
It's becoming
The hotly debated topic in this state, especially along our eastern coast, it has access to the lake.
Well,
it's all about the water.
It's
always about the water.
And that's just something, Charlie, I'm saying out loud now.
Go on.
Which was also the concern, by the way.
during Foxconn, right?
There was concern that the Foxconn project would violate the great state or the Great Lakes water compact,
right?
And I remember having this discussion seven years ago, but I did take a look at the proposed water usage and some of the closed youth loop facilities.
And that's an area for further research, I think.
I think it's not as much as the Foxconn project had proposed.
You also mentioned there's a lot of information.
coming out about data centers.
Well, in the village of Caledonia, it took a while to know who was proposing this data center.
It actually took open records and folks submitting open records requests to find out that it was Microsoft and it took a while.
That is okay.
I
know you can't comment on this because you have journalistic integrity, but I don't.
That is so sneaky that we actually have to file FOIA in order to find out who is behind this.
That's just wrong.
It is.
And it makes you wonder, why wouldn't they want their name to be out there?
Are they doing something bad?
I mean, you hide yourself like that.
It just makes you go, hmm.
That seems not good.
And going back to water, I mean, this was the whole thing with Foxconn.
That's why they wanted to be here.
There's lots of people that want our water, you guys.
Lots and lots.
And we're talking about billions of gallons.
A report from the Alliance for the Great Lakes.
Again, that's very much on one side.
But they found that data centers could withdraw as much as 150 billion gallons over the next five years in the US.
Something to keep in mind.
Absolutely.
Shelly Pittman is Civic Media's news director.
She joins us every Monday at this time.
Thank you so much, Shelly.
Really appreciate it.
We'll see you next week.
Thanks folks, you rock.
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