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Wanted to start off with this, though.
I want to surprise Republicans.
This from WISN, set to propose sweeping changes to ballot drop boxes ahead of the midterms.
I didn't.
Okay.
Okay.
Few things change.
Sure.
First of all, wasn't it just last year?
where they had suddenly and out of nowhere embraced the change of other forms of voting that is not on the day in person, like drop boxes, mail in, all that stuff.
You know what comes to mind?
Bank your vote.
Yes.
I seem to remember bank your vote.
Bank your vote.
And Brian Shinning, the head of the Wisconsin Republican Party, was very big on taking advantage voting absentee.
Yes.
voting early using Dropboxes
and the experts agree that Dropboxes worked in the Republicans favor last election
because
there are a lot of folks out there who need They need more options.
They need to be able to vote early They need to be able to drop the drop it off in a Dropbox like this is just helping
keep our democratic processes in place.
Although in this past week or two, I can see how democratic processes really just get in the way of power and, and, you know, not wanting to leave your office.
But this just doesn't.
Also, the other question I have, Jane, didn't the Wisconsin Supreme Court say this year that dropboxes are fine talking to you, Doug Dinney
in Wausau?
Yeah, I believe they did.
Yeah, I believe the Wisconsin Supreme Court did decide that there was nothing
evil about Dropboxes because there's nothing evil about Dropboxes.
So wouldn't we qualify this then?
And I'm using technical parlances in the election industry.
Wouldn't this be classified as beating a dead horse?
One could say that.
Cool.
Just
wanted to know.
Great use of our tax dollars, folks.
Wisconsin Republicans set to propose sweeping changes to how ballot drop boxes are used and monitors.
Monitored, rather, in legislation they will introduce next week.
Assembly Assistant Majority Leader Republican Scott Kluge says he will detail this this coming Sunday on WISN's up front.
Great.
The bill will also allow election officials to start processing
Absentee ballots the day before Election Day.
We've talked about this repeatedly.
This measure has failed over and over and over again, and it has bipartisan support.
Yes, and it fails.
because it allows Republicans to complain about Madison, but more specifically Milwaukee,
because
ballot dumps, because, you know, in a town with more than, you know, 50,000 people.
And in the case of Milwaukee, 550 plus thousand people, it takes a little bit longer.
It does.
And will it, will this portion pass?
I don't know what I've been hearing a lot.
I reported, not reported, let me, let me, I recited.
I, the stories we talked about with regard to things coming out of the GOP in Wisconsin, they love to tell us, this is what we're going to do.
And then it's always followed with few details are known.
So Clue is not giving us anything right now other than this.
And he'll tell us more on Sunday.
And we can follow up on Monday about this.
Cause I want to know.
So you want to limit Dropbox usage, but then expand the ability to count ballots.
When I say I'm not being snarky, I don't understand the logic of it all, but make it make sense.
Scott Krug on up front.
Scott Krug.
Krug, sorry Krug.
To the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the bills aimed at codifying new election practices will be released next week, including the measure giving poll workers more time.
to process mail-in ballots, again, which we have tried to get passed over and over and over and over again.
But it's a really handy thing for one side when the election isn't going their way to then be able to say, oh, but they dropped off all these ballots in the middle of the night.
No one knows where they came from.
They just came from the sky.
It makes you look kind of crazy.
And, you know, at this point, we're at a place where no one really cares when they
act crazy, we just sort of shrug
our shoulders.
We shrug our shoulders and we move on because we have lives and that's kind of the dangerous part, but we do, we have lives.
Even us who spend our time in the news, there are other things we have to talk about and look at, whereas other folks who have like jobs, kids, other responsibilities, they don't even have, they don't pay attention because it's not on their radar.
So, and my point being is that last year, Brian Schimming and
Many of the GOP members nationwide and states said, bank your vote, vote early, bank your vote.
And then Donald Trump was still saying absentee balloting, anything that's not traditional on the day in person is corrupt.
And then finally he stopped saying it and it worked for them and it works for everyone.
Period.
And now we are eight, nine, almost 10 months.
Yeah, we're nine months into the year and we're
back at this.
The measures will include a ban on fixing errors on ballots called ballot curing, which has been happening for a long time.
We'll also codify rules governing the use of ballot drop boxes.
Another measure will change how many hours clerks have to be available for early voting based on population size.
Smaller the population, the shorter the voting time period.
According to Krug, if there's a community that has less than 100 registered voters,
They only have to do five hours in person during the two weeks before Election Day instead of 20 hours.
One other measure which I do agree with would include grants to boost security measures for poll workers.
Yeah, let's protect these people.
Let's also bolster just staff of these.
these polling places too.
So they continue and to work smoothly.
I mean, I don't know if it would still be happening now because Mark Zuckerberg is in his villains era, but he was providing grants to municipalities all over the state,
all over the country.
Oh, the infamous Zucker
Bucks.
Yeah.
And those went away because, you know, the Republicans love democracy.
So now we have to find it in other ways.
And okay, we're going to get the safety is important.
I'm not against safety.
I love safety, especially for poll workers.
We need to take care of them and we need to thank them.
But.
We also need to give support in the way of funding to staff, to locations, to all the things they need, just to make it easier for them, which makes it easier for
us.
A spokesperson for Governor Evers says the Evers wants to sign into law a bill that allows poll workers to process ballots ahead of election day, thank you, but will not support measures undermining and sowing distrust in existing election workers and practices.
Not a surprise Senate Majority Leader, Devin Lemahue, did not immediately respond to questions about the chances of the new bill becoming
law.
Oh, yes, of course.
He's the sticker.
He's the sticking point.
A
lot of times, yeah.
He's the guy who's either not, he's the gentleman who doesn't even bring these votes to up for a vote, or I'm sorry, he doesn't bring these bills up for a vote.
And in a couple of instances, he has said out loud, that's not my job.
It's like, it's almost.
All of your jobs, sir.
Pretty much.
So on the live stream, a young person named this chick loves the squad says, many people in Wisconsin work away from home.
You need to vote at your town hall.
By mail was the only way to vote for me.
No way I was driving home to vote to go back to work.
Yeah, exactly.
And I just think for elderly people.
I mean, people with special needs, all kinds of folks take advantage of drop boxes and voting by mail.
This is just a convenient
alternative for everyone, not to mention, you know, the way that the way they want.
I mean, I'm going a little bit outside of the GOP of Wisconsin, but like the attitude now is just that.
You know, you will vote on the day in person.
That's it.
Well, guess what?
All your military don't get to vote.
All those people who work out of the country don't get to vote.
All those kids who are voting at home, even though they're out at school, don't get to vote.
And that's exactly what you want.
This is voter suppression and voter intimidation.
So I'll be interested to see what he has to say on upfront this Sunday, because, you know, I'm all about bolstering security and I'm all about opening them absentee ballots early to vote, to count those votes.
But
this whole
dropbox thing gives me the itch.
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With the time we have left before the bottom of the hour, Superintendent of Schools Jill Underly calls the Trump administration the biggest schoolyard bully that Wisconsin schools are facing.
Yeah.
State Superintendent Jill Underly calling a Trump administration a big schoolyard bully.
Her address yesterday, her first during her second term in office.
Dr. Underly says public education in Wisconsin isn't just a system.
It's a living story written daily by the people who believe in its promise.
And as we've learned, it seems like most of us love our public schools if it's our public school.
Yes.
If it's that other public school, not so much.
No, and I would say that Dr. Underly is correct in her assumption, but her description as Donald Trump is the biggest school yard bully.
I mean, he put.
Linda McMahon in charge of the Department of Education, but I would also say don't don't Don't sleep on Robin Voss and his cohorts.
They've done quite a bit to slowly choke the life out of public school
without a doubt
and
and it's very intentional.
Yes.
Yeah, exactly exactly.
It's almost with with There is a level of
pride they take, glee because they think whenever they give them money, that's enough.
And really it's never enough.
And looking back, her request for $4 billion, while seems crazy expensive, when you think about how long it's been underfunded, $4 billion for then and now would probably do the trick.
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This is
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Yes.
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Good morning, Bob from the East Coast.
How are you?
Fine, man.
How are you?
We are great.
So can you be a little more specific on what is Wisconsin's East Coast?
It's everything that's on that's a longer shoreline.
Everything.
That's a very large piece of property you have, Bob.
Well, I covered it.
I started working in fundraising in 1977.
I'm originally from a place called Sturgeon Bay.
Yeah.
And in the fast foods industry, I worked in Milwaukee, Port Washington, and Kenosha.
All right.
There
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You're doing the stretch.
I like the way you do that, Bob.
That's how I feel.
Like I don't have like civic pride.
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I lived in Milwaukee, but I've lived in southeastern Wisconsin and all these counties.
So I have like a southeastern and a Wisconsin pride.
So I like the way you do that, Bob.
I like your style.
Thank you for calling to clarify, Bob.
We were just really curious about that.
I like how he runs from Sturgeon Bay down to the state line.
It's like, what's Wisconsin's East Coast?
the coast that's on the east.
I feel like Bob, you
were
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It's Friday.
It's time for a little re-combobulation from Civic Media's political editor and some movement now in the governor's race stand.
A couple more.
hats in the ring.
It's
been a little bit of a busy week here with some of the announcements that we've got going on
in the
governor's race.
Not just the governor's race, a few other announcements this week, and we can get into that too.
There's 2026 outlook is heating up a little bit.
But two candidates, both from Madison, each announced that they would be running for governor this week.
So on Monday, Calderoy, state senator announced that she would be running for governor.
And then I believe it was Wednesday that state representative Francesca Hong announced that she would be running for governor.
So, you know, last week we had David Crowley announced his candidacy.
Mayor Cavalier Johnson got behind it.
Last week was Milwaukee week.
And this week is
Madison week.
And so, you know, we're making our way around the state with some of these announcements here.
But, um, yeah, what, what do you guys think of, you know, some of the, how some of the, I guess, announcement videos about how some of these landed?
I guess let's, let's start with Kelda Roy's.
I
mean, I, I, I, everyone I've talked about Kelda is excited to see what she has to offer.
Cause I think the thing that I think, well, I, I honestly think that Kelda Roy's Francesca Hong and Sarah Rodriguez all have a similar quality of good energy.
Kelda doesn't hold back night of those Francesca Hong.
I think there was a lot of excitement to see both of these individuals jump in because now it feels like there's going to be a discussion.
And it feels like there's going to be ideas.
And everybody I know, I mean, everybody I know who loves Francesca Hong is really excited.
But when it comes to Kelda, I think that she has a little bit more work to do as far as getting her name out there.
But I think that I was,
I'm happy.
She's they're both in it.
I was unsure with Francesca just because I feel like sometimes her message I don't want to see people trying to label her as like some Socialist commie and all of her but I think that's what's gonna happen.
Absolutely.
I mean she's
part of the Democratic Socialist
Caucus.
Exactly.
So it's
not like she's running from that either.
No, it's a voluntary choice that she made to be part of that caucus.
But I think you know Calvin I'd like your take on this because
In talking to younger Democrats and younger, leaning Democrats, I think they get tired of what they see are the regular old run of the, you know, middle of the road.
Let's all get along kind of Democrats.
And Francesca is different.
I do.
What do you think about the energy that she brings, Calvin?
I had this discussion with Greg off the air yesterday afternoon and I'm, I'm.
Not sure what how I feel about the primary going forward.
I'd like all of the candidates well I'll share save my thoughts for the fifth member of the field for
another day
necessary um, oh Yeah, but yeah, I think it's torn between Do you vote for someone that you like and are confident?
They can win an election or do you vote for someone that you like?
and think is more the direction you would like to see the party move.
And I think that's kind of the dichotomy of Kelba Royce and Francesca Hong for me is, I think Kelba Royce has a better chance of winning the general election.
But I think Francesca Hong's progressive policies have a potential to speak more to the younger people.
Yeah.
And I think there is, right, Calvin, there's this, I forget who said the quote, but it's just like this quote about primaries and elections.
And it's just like in a primary vote your heart and in the general vote your head.
And
like vote who, you know, which candidate speaks to you most in a primary, but once you're in the general election, like it doesn't necessarily have to be that.
It's just about who, you know, especially in the two-party system that we have, it's just like you're making a different type of calculation with that.
But yeah, I think that's interesting.
And I do wonder if there's, you know,
if there's a certain lane for a progressive candidate that had not yet been claimed, and that it can be claimed now by a representative Hong.
But I do think, you know, and I wrote about this in a piece a few weeks ago, and I had, you know, kind of like the top contenders I had in the group and in Calderois, I had in that kind of top four potential contenders for governor.
you know, of that Josh Call has not yet announced.
So we'll see what exactly he has in store for his plans for 2026.
Attorney General Josh Call.
But I think, you know, I think Francesca Hong would start outside of that group, outside of the group of top contenders.
But one of the things about, you know, knowing Francesca Hong for a few years now is
No one's going to outwork her on any of this.
And, you know, she just announced yesterday as she was, you know, at the, what, the second day of her campaign that she's going to be going on this like statewide tour and she had like a dozen different places that she's going to be over the next two weeks going to and speaking to people and rallying support in her state tour.
And I think the fact that she is going to be coming out of the gate and working super hard, that's going to make everybody else in the primary kind of need.
to up their game.
Work that much
harder.
Again, I consider myself a political realist in a lot of ways.
I don't think she has the best chance of winning this race.
I'm not ruling it out, but I don't think she is one of the top most likely to win this race.
But I think her entry to it is going to make everybody work that much harder.
And I think that is definitely a good thing.
Tony on the live stream says, if only we had ranked choice voting.
You could vote your values and then everyone wouldn't have to be a pundit.
Yeah.
There's that too.
There is.
Yep.
But we
are not there yet.
We
are
not.
And I think when it comes to what's interesting to me about Kelda and Fran and saying that I want to tack on this last question for you, Dan, regarding David Crowley,
is
that...
I feel like even though Fran has like, she definitely has those progressive democratic socialist values that she is, she is standing up for and she will not back down on.
And that's one of the things I love about her.
Kelda too, isn't like, to me, some centrist character.
I mean, when she came on the show after the budget,
We were kind of expecting a few days of you, Ra Ra, we did it.
And Kelda came on like, this is, I know this
is bad.
And
both of us were like, Oh, is it bad?
I'm so sorry.
Cause, cause Tony Evers had proposed this budget being an end, and Diane Heselbein.
Like it was, it was good to see the Democrats walk in and take some control, but at the end of the day, there were Democrats, including Francesca Hong and Calderois who were not at please.
So I do feel like where it for.
Going back to what Kelvin says, if you're looking between those two, I feel like it is a good combination of your head and your heart.
You can vote for one or the other and feel represented and or feel like you're going to be spoken for by one of those two.
But I feel like the, the, the announcement from Kelda and from Francesca have kind of muted David Crowley's announcement.
He
came out and it was, it happened and we knew it was going to happen because he said early he was going to announce and then he finally announced and I've seen things
But now we are focusing our attention on the two of them rather
than
David Crowley.
And he's sort of just, I mean, that's not a bad thing.
He's going to do great.
He's a great campaigner, but I feel like he kind of lost some of the thunder because you had two candidates in very close amount of time come out and announced they're running and.
with Francesca, it was sort of like, yeah, but she did it and with a really great
video too.
Yeah, the video is good.
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into the gubernatorial race here in Wisconsin.
Talking about David Crowley, I certainly think he might have a little bit better name recognition.
He is Milwaukee County executive.
He's had that role now for several years.
But I also think he's an almost a tougher spot because he has to come forward and talk about all the wonderful things he's done for Milwaukee County.
I would think that's going to be challenging.
Yeah, I think that, you know, that the
Milwaukee candidates have a certain level of baggage to them fair or unfair.
I think mostly unfair And but I and I think Crowley in the five years that he has been at the helm in Milwaukee County I think he's done a very good job like he was able to get the you know shared revenue thing and sales tax fix over the finish line They've been able to they have so many just like smart under the radar wins, but I just don't know how those like
How
to highlight those?
How to
highlight some of those types of things in a statewide race.
And I also wonder if like, what is his name recognition outside of Southeastern Wisconsin too?
Because I think there is like this quality of he's well known here
where we are in Southeastern Wisconsin right now.
I don't know
how well known he is in the rest of the state.
Well, and one of the recent things I heard, and I can't remember where I heard this interview with him, but it's, how do we address the needs of our, you know, it's like he has,
He asks all these right questions.
I'm not hearing the answers
for those questions.
And as a candidate, you are there to provide the solutions for these things.
So I don't know that coming out and ask, you know, coming out with a lot of open-ended questions is necessarily the best campaign tactic.
It's like, yeah, these are all valid concerns that people want to address.
Now, what are you going to do about
it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There is-
Be
specific.
Gotta be specific.
And I think, you know, Crawley is kind of more of a, like governed by consensus type of leader as well.
He's not just like, everybody get here and listen to me type of person.
He surrounds himself with really smart people and he's kind of like governed by consensus there.
You know, he's been able to have a really good-
relationship with the Milwaukee County Board that has not always been the case.
Which is kind of astonishing, actually.
It is, actually,
yeah.
And so I think he is not somebody who's going to just get out there and be like, hey, my way or the highway, I'm gonna ruffle everybody's feathers.
He takes a little bit of a different kind of approach, and it's gonna be interesting to see how that translates in a campaign sense, because it's not typically what you see in a campaign.
Well, and I think of all of the candidates thus far, and I don't mean to disrespect Mr. Strand.
But I'm going to, you know, we got these, these people who have been in public office.
David Crowley is the one with the most experience of running a thing.
Like you have representatives.
Exactly.
And on top of that too, and I've said this before and I'm going to keep saying, I think one of his biggest strengths is that man had to convince the county of Milwaukee.
And now granted, you can say Chris Ably was behind him.
And that does mean a lot, but.
People's reservations, whether it's racism or his location, whatever it was, he convinced the people of Milwaukee County that he was the best choice for their executive.
And I think...
that on top of the fact that he has executive experience goes a long way for him.
And he is, I think of all of them personally, of the ones that I have met, he's the best at campaigning and governing.
Some people are blessed with one and not the other, and he is blessed with both.
He can walk into a room and start the conversation, but then as far as talking about the wins, I think what you do is you get to the granule level and say, here are the things we need to work on.
concerning you.
Great.
I have the answer for that.
I have an answer.
Let's talk about it.
And that's what we need.
Yeah, that's what we need.
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And before the break, we were talking about the gubernatorial race in Wisconsin.
So we talked a lot about all the Democrats that are running.
And now we have an announcement of a pending announcement.
We have an announcement about an announcement.
It's
like a turducken of announcements and press releases and all of that.
Yeah.
So the Wisconsin College Republicans yesterday on their Twitter account put out a flyer that said announcement.
Congressman Tom Tiffany is holding a very special event in Wausau on September 24th.
Everyone is welcome.
This looks like a good editorial announcement.
Pretty much.
This looks like, I mean, he's been acting like he's running for governor for the past couple of months here.
He was all over the place at Wisconsin State
Fair.
State Fair, I was going to say.
He's been praising
his profile.
He's been talking about, in conservative media, he's been talking more about state related issues on social media.
It has seemed like he's been running for the last couple of months, maybe next week is when he finally makes it official.
I think he had hinted at the fact that he was wanting to announce a run before the end of, or make some.
make his decision before the end of September, it sure seems like his decision is going to be that he's going to run.
I think that's a pretty fair bet.
I would say this is a Tom Duckin happening in this next week.
Also, I just want to go over the fact that he took a picture of himself holding a fish so he could put it out there because someone said, I believe anyone running for governor should have to take a picture to show us how you can, if you can hold the fish correctly.
And he did.
thus giving us another candidate running for an office in Wisconsin where a lake was involved.
Well, that obviously, you know, Eric, he's so standard.
You gotta check those most important bucks.
Exactly, exactly.
You just need hatchet throwing and he'll be in the top five.
I can see Tom Tiffany trying to sell himself as the next Tommy Thompson.
Kind of a, you know, moderate, not a screamer.
But can you do that with Trump's endorsement?
That's
what he needs to.
He needs that well, but he can get the endorsement without having to take it to the next level Yeah, he is no moderate though by any stretch.
Oh, I'm not saying that he is
but but he could he can try and sell himself that way Yeah Well, would you do you think it's more likely that he would sell himself that way or if he sells himself as hey, I'm the true conservative here
I'm a Trump supporter, MAGA supporter.
I'm gonna be your fighter in the state to try and stop Wisconsin from becoming California or Illinois or whatever these
things are.
Minnesota was the
target lately.
So I think he is more of kind of just like the conservative fire brand type of guy.
I think it would certainly represent a big shift for...
Kind of like where the center of power is for Republican politics in Wisconsin because for forever It has been the wild counties.
It has been yes, watch out Ozaki and
Washington
counties and I think we've seen so many candidates from there over the years You know even this year with Brad Schimel And you know Scott Walker ran up huge numbers in Waukesha County when he was running
I think this, if Tom Tiffany were to run and to be the nominee, I think it would really represent a shift in where the center of power is for Republican politics because I think it would shift to the north.
It would shift to the north woods or just kind of northwestern Wisconsin more broadly.
And, you know, Tiffany would, I think...
really struggle with crossover appeal in some of those wild counties that have been trending more purple in Waukesha and Ozaki in particular, but he might run up bigger numbers in more rural areas in his own, you know, seventh congressional district.
So there's a trade-off to be considered there for him, too.
Well, we'll find out more next Wednesday.
He's going to be making his announcement in Wausau.
I'm just curious, is there something, is there a public works project that was funded by the Biden administration
that Tom
Tiffany can go stand next to and claim credit for while he's in Wausau?
He's done that before.
He has.
He's done it with the Blotnik bridge.
I just thought maybe there's something in Wausau he could try and tag his name onto while he's
there.
We'll have to see if there are any Biden.
infrastructure, he'll have to avoid when he's in Wausau or something like that.
I think I would love to ask the question of Republicans in Wisconsin.
What do you think?
Cause you're the ones who will
be
deciding who wins this primary.
Do you want to go with this name or do you want to go with someone new?
Because it's going to be a very, I mean, granted, if we don't get a billionaire guy, like a hubby or a Tim Michaels coming into it,
Who are the who are the people that Republicans want to represent them in Wisconsin?
Is it gonna be the Tom Tiffany or is it gonna be more unknown?
I'd love to hear from Republicans on this.
What is your thoughts?
Are you gonna vote for this guy or who who's catching your fancy?
It's not a deep bench and we
ran a piece on this at the reconvibulation area earlier this year from a contributor Josh Clemens He talked about how gerrymandering has hurt the Republicans bench because
They have not had the candidates who've actually had to compete
for voters.
Oh, you mean actually run?
Yeah, actually run
and compete for voters in tough districts.
They don't have...
tested candidates who are ready for a statewide run.
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