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Todd Blanche works for the attorney general's office at a sit down with Jelaine Maxwell, of course, before sending her off to a club fed, essentially.
And
It's interesting.
There's some interesting details in there.
There are no details, Jane.
Cash Patel just said nothing really happened.
There's nothing to see here.
There's nothing
to see anymore.
We have
all the files, but
you're not going to see them.
There's nothing there.
There's nothing in there.
There's never.
Jeffrey Epstein was just a nice boy who liked Florida.
Yeah.
Don't you understand that?
We're going to talk to Jim Santel, among many other things.
Hour number two, Brittany Merleau will be here.
Civic media meteorologist for a little weather and wine.
Talk about this incredibly.
It really has been beautiful here, at least in southeastern Wisconsin.
Yes.
It's been summer.
Oh my gosh, yes.
It's very, very nice.
It's been like mid-70s
for a while.
Flirting with 80s.
How long is this going to last?
It's not going to last.
That's not long.
So Brittany will be here with an update and we're going to talk a little bit about fall colors too, because that is a thing.
Yes,
it
is.
I am going with a friend of mine the first week in October.
Are you going leaf peeping?
We're going leaf peeping.
Nice.
Yeah, we're going to go to Prairie Duchenne.
Love it.
and then go along the Mississippi River.
That's great.
Yeah.
So love that.
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Today the Blades of Glory edition.
Yeah, this one is a interesting one.
Yeah.
Stay tuned.
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We wanted to start off with this, this broke last night.
Jimmy Kimmel, his show on ABC has been put on semi-indefinite hiatus.
He was referencing the Charlie Kirk assassination on Monday night.
Yes.
And this is the clip.
that apparently led to this.
Calvin, can we play that clip please from Jimmy Kimmel?
We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.
In between the finger pointing, there was a grieving on Friday, the White House flew the flags at half staff, which got some criticism.
But on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this.
I think very good, and
by the way, right there, you see all the trucks?
They've just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years, and it's going to be a beauty.
Yes.
He's at the fourth stage of grief, construction.
That
is what Jimmy Kindle said essentially on Monday night.
There was a little more to it.
Yes, but I will point out that every story that I've seen so far isn't including the joke portion.
It's just from we hit some new lows to the accusation that Tyler Robinson, who's the accused shooter, that he is
Mega, GOP, whatever, like that was it.
That's all they were referencing.
They didn't even reference the joke in what I was seeing.
They just wanted that little
paragraph.
Those
two, three sentences.
That's what did it.
It wasn't a joke at Charlie's Kirk's expense.
He wasn't making fun of their family.
He wasn't saying anything other than just a simple observation.
That's it.
Not even a joke.
Well, and that clip that he played from Donald Trump was not edited.
Nope, because I saw that when, when it went, when it was live.
And there was more to it.
They showed even more about the fact that Donald Trump has been all about this ballroom, building this ballroom at the White House on the White House lawn, essentially.
That itself wouldn't even be enough in my opinion as quote unquote, a joke.
Cause once again, it's not making fun of Charlie Kirk.
No, there's no, at no point is his.
memory, his legacy, his family being held at expense to make a chuckle.
This was simply, this was, this was simply the starting point for something they've wanted to do for a while.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
Brendan Carr, little history lesson.
Our FCC chairman.
Brendan Carr, who is the head of the FCC in project 2025, wrote about
the new role of the FCC.
And this is exactly from the Project 2025 playbook.
Yes.
Brendan Carr, after that Monday night show from Jimmy Kimmel, he went on a podcast and said, there is a strong case for the FCC pursuing action against ABC Disney, which owns that show.
Quote, this is a very, very serious issue right now for Disney.
We can do this the easy way or the hard way.
These companies can find ways to take action on Kimmel or there is going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.
They have a license granted by us at the FCC and that comes with an obligation to operate in the public interest."
That all just all that all that great wording he used just
We're going to bully
you into into doing what
the administration wants and this is all about fear and and you know I Have Jane I have been incredibly patient for the past few months with certain people on my Facebook About what they've been saying and how they've been responding to the things that I post because I've actually been using Facebook a lot more lately to post articles and
post questions and try to get people's understanding on what it's going on with everything happening at all
the
time.
And I actually finally, this was the last straw I had to unfriend people because they were just saying either really dumb or uninformed or contrarian things because they don't care about the results of the conversation.
They were making jokes at expensive Jimmy Kimmel and his family.
And they were like, it's gotten the point where they have created
Brendan Carr and the Next Star Group, they've created such controversy around nothing that it doesn't matter as long as whomever is posing a, not a threat, I don't want to say threat, whomever is in their mind disrespecting their movement gets taken down and that's all they need.
They don't understand the ripple effects.
Oh, exactly.
And that's what I said.
If you are a mega fan, if you are a GOP, this should scare you.
Absolutely.
Because at some point, the Constitution won't be there to protect you either.
And you're going to be sitting there going, but I megaed.
I GOPed.
I love freedom.
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
But go ahead.
Make jokes now.
This is the start.
Just because it was something you didn't like doesn't mean they won't come after something you
enjoy.
Back in 2022, Brendan Carr, the now head of the FCC, tweeted out in support of President Biden's defense of satire.
Yeah.
Brendan Carr in 2022, you can find it on Twitter, tweeting in defense of political satire.
Because it's important that you be able to poke fun at those in power.
That's kind of why we have a First Amendment.
Yes, and that's it's the it is If you are in the industry of this is very specific industry of comedy It is your job to make good satire and honestly, this wasn't even satire
Again, they don't even reference the joke about the construction.
They reference the fact, the true fact that since the tragic, horrific, and undeserving death of Charlie Kirk, something that should never have happened.
To anyone.
And I hate having to say I'm against political violence because it should be a given.
I have to clarify this point.
It was about the fact that since that action last week, Wednesday, the GOP have been doing everything they can.
To make Tyler Robinson the most Antifa liberal trans endorsing Freedom-hating person ever when still we don't have a lot of information We're still learning but they will do everything they can to make him seem like he had nothing to do with the GOP and mega movement and that's all that Jimmy Kimmel was calling out.
That's it And
that was enough.
Oh, right
There's also another part in here that I think is important when tell me more chain Following the money.
Oh money is amazing.
I wish I had some interesting little point here Perry Sook is the head of next star and Guess what next star wants to go into a big merger Big big big merger.
Yeah, they want to merge with CW
No, I'm sorry.
They already own CW, but they have a merger that they want approved by the FCC.
This is cold air again.
It is absolutely because CBS Paramount had a merger that they wanted and so they capitulated to Trump and the Trump administration because his feelings get hurt because people make fun of him.
Yeah
That's why and I just want so there is that merger the next our merger that wants to take place So their money is more important than your freedom never forget that their money is more important than your freedom also after so skydance bought Paramount they merged I should say now skydance
whose son is the president of Skyance, the owner, the guy in charge of it is Larry Ellis's son.
Larry Ellis is a multi-billionaire Trump supporter.
He now wants to buy Warner Brothers.
Skydance takes up paramount.
Now he wants it.
So we're going to be going through this every time a big multi-billion dollar company wants something from the FCC or wants approval from the government.
The government now gets to sit there and go, well, let's see what you have that we do and don't like.
And we'll get rid of that
first.
And these guys will be none too happy to sit down and go, yeah, I'll get rid
of
them.
They will roll over quicker than you can, yes.
Sue from Franklin texting in listening on WAUK.
Sure, that anchor from Fox can say that we should kill homeless people.
and he gets to come back with a so-so apology.
But he doesn't get canceled.
He doesn't get suspended.
No, because it's called, I don't know, double standards.
And Sean Hannity was on Fox News last night saying that the Trump administration had nothing to do with Jimmy Kimmel's
suspension.
Of course he did.
So this plan has been laid long ago.
It's being put into play right now, because this is what they've wanted for years.
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We want to play that clip again from Jimmy Kimmel that he played on Monday night, which is ostensibly the reason for them suspending him.
Calvin, can we play that clip once more, please?
We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can.
to score political points from it.
In between the finger pointing, there was grieving.
On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half staff, which got some criticism.
But on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this.
I think very good.
And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks, they've just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years.
And it's going to be a beauty.
Yes.
He's at the fourth stage of grief construction.
So that's the whole, that's pretty much the whole clip.
Mm hmm.
And I've heard many worse things said on Fox.
Fox, by the way, the network that was fined almost a billion dollars for lying to its audience repeatedly.
that the 2020 election had been stolen.
And if you want to go back and look at some of the testimony from some of the hosts on Fox News, including Laura Ingram and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, admitting they knew what they were saying were lies.
Yeah.
And I don't often do this because I've got, I've got better things to do with my life, but being accused that we are spreading lies about this story.
If you look at the connection between Brendan Carr, who is the chairman of the FCC, what he wrote in project 2025 to what he's doing right now, pressuring the network and as not being talked about, the affiliates, the affiliates
being
pressured also to do something about Kimmel.
And if they don't, they won't have money, they won't have money to be.
To defend their license.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah, the government is stepping in is it and as Jenny put it on the live stream She said it is not a violation of the first amendment when a company fires an employee for doing something that brings unwanted attention to company against company policy
You're
absolutely right.
It is a violation of the first amendment when the director of the FCC goes on a podcast and threatens the company's license and then the company fires them which is what Brendan Carr did he went on Benny Johnson's podcast and said that so yeah, it's
The evidence is right there and if you can't see that's not my problem,
so and we have another someone Jimmy Kimmel was spent as spreading blatant disinformation and you're defending it What was the blatant disinformation?
Yeah, you told it show it there.
I don't see
where
they're there were multiple attempts
to paint the suspect in this assassination before all the details were released.
Good heavens, we had the head of the FBI stating that we had a suspect in custody before we ever had a suspect in custody.
Yeah, they've been
talking about this.
And what Trump said is actually what the president of the United States said that was not edited, that was accurate.
That is not disinformation.
That is reporting an actual event.
And again,
They weren't even talking about the joke in the stories.
The New York Times didn't even reference that joke in their breaking news story that I got last night.
It was simply the setup of saying that the GOP is just looking to make sure that the murderer of Charlie Kirk has nothing to do with them, has nothing to do with their movement, and is all about the Liberal Party and Antifa, who by the way, the president announced yesterday that he's going to designate Antifa as a terrorist group.
Okay, great.
Good work.
I just, to me, as a comedian, as someone who works in comedy, and I work in media, this is terrifying.
This should trouble everyone.
Everyone.
And again, we're gonna put, I wanna include this article from the Bull Work in our show notes because it covers...
Just some good reminders in there.
Let's not forget that almost exactly a year ago, the president, the now president of the United States said out loud that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating and killing people's pets.
JD Vance later went on to admit that that was made up.
But he said, if I have to create stories so the American media pays attention, that's what I'm going to do.
That's what
he...
which is a very nice way of saying, I'm going to lie to get our way.
So
I
mean, it's just.
Also, yeah, they also like to say that the ratings, someone on the text lines, like the ratings were in the toilet.
No, the market speaks when at the end of a season, the network says we're going to cancel the show.
Or if you don't cancel
the show, bad things might happen to your license.
Exactly.
So if you want to defend this move towards authoritarianism, the people in the lives from the comments and the text, fine, go for it.
I'm glad that you have a varying definition of the word freedom.
We have news coming up next.
And then Jim Santel, host of Amicus Law Review.
you joining us on the other side.
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Interesting takes on this.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
And people have their opinions, and I get that, but this is just Stephen Colbert a few months later.
Absolutely.
And again, Brendan Carr, who is now the current head of the FCC, Brendan Carr wrote
the chapter in Project 2025 about the FCC and what they planned to do to that agency, which is what they're implementing now.
And it's essentially making sure that everything that's broadcast.
goes along with what Donald Trump wants.
Yes.
Essentially.
Yes.
And God forbid you make any jokes at his expense.
He's got such a great sense of humor.
And luckily, all those people at the top who run all those networks and the affiliates and whatnot.
Oh, we forgot to say, by the way, one major thing we forgot to do.
If you'd like to call Next Star Media, you can.
They have a phone number.
They do have a phone number.
Harry Sook, whose name just sounds completely made up for a comic book.
972-373-8800.
Let them know.
And I've seen people, I've been seeing people post their cancellation of Disney Plus, their cancellation of Hulu, their cancellation of anything having to do with ABC or Disney.
And- And next star is a big part of that.
Next star is a big part of it.
972-373-8800.
Perry Six Phone Number.
If you'd like to let them know what you think.
But luckily, all those people, Jane, at the top,
love their money more than they love the people, and especially capitulation is the way to make those cash registers, cha-ching.
Which
is what they
did
to Colbert.
Yeah.
Essentially, ABC had a deal that they wanted to be approved, which they needed to be approved by the FCC, so Stephen Colbert.
will be gone.
And next star, which you mentioned, Mr. Sook, they have a merger that is coming up.
That's before the FCC.
And if you want to get the blessing of the FCC under Donald Trump, you better do what he wants.
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Good morning, Ollie.
What do you want to say?
Well, I was reading an article yesterday
After Jimmy Kimmel was fired or suspended, I should say, Trump started out going after James Colbert.
And when he was done with that, he automatically said Jimmy Kimmel is
next.
Oh, yes.
And now that yesterday they got comments from Trump,
In an article that he was praising the fact that Jimmy Kimmel was suspended,
right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he said, and so and so and so we'll be next.
Jimmy Fallon and Seth Meyers.
Yep, they're next on the list.
Yeah, he wants all late night canceled.
Because they've made jokes at his expense.
And he does it, and he is one of the most thin-skinned people on the face of the planet who cannot take a
joke.
And let's take a step back and just...
Bathe in the pure unadulterated irony of the fact that the mega and GOP party movement, whatever you want, I'll call them what I would, you know, infection, they have what they did a few years ago, which was anyone who said anything wrong.
Anything who said anything they didn't like they would get them.
They were they were afraid of being canceled.
I
can't say what I want anymore, Jane, because America's in free.
Now the shoes on the other foot and anything you say that disrespects dear leader.
Oh my gosh, fire them, cancel them immediately.
It's like they created the best blueprint for themselves to follow.
This is absolute hypocrisy and it is disgusting.
And I could talk about this for decades, but I won't because
Someone's here.
Jim Santel is here.
Thank you, Ollie, for checking in.
Appreciate your time.
Jim Santel back from doing actual legal work.
Now joining us live.
Good morning, Jim.
Thanks for making time for us and joining us
today.
It's always been great.
Delighted.
I'll be with you again.
Now they're so very serious morning in America, and the challenges do not end, do they?
And again, the question from Ali and others, you know, the thing that I hear I was in with a group yesterday, a civic group of 60 people whose question once again was, what do we do?
Well, how do we respond to this, right?
And you do whatever you can do.
Obviously, we would never advocate anything illegal or violent, but you do all of those other things that you and your listeners are talking about to respond to this, including doing things with your pocketbook economically.
You cancel those things that are no longer consistent with your view.
As you know, I've been a big advocate too.
pulling out an envelope and a stamp and a piece of correspondence and writing a letter to the leaders of CBS and ABC and all the other entities and yes indeed law enforcement and yes indeed people in Congress and letting them know how you feel about these things.
That does have impact and it cannot be overstated the extent to which again voices individual and collective need desperately to be heard.
President is not going to hear about that.
He does hear it.
He doesn't want to hear about it.
But there are other voices out there that I think are still maybe reasonable and can be can be affected by advocacy of this kind.
Well, and one thing I want to share and what you said just made me think about it too, Jim, if you like civic media and you appreciate
what civic media does.
And you would like to help support civic media.
There are several ways that you can do that.
And one way, and Todd talks about this on his show all the time, if you hear an advertiser on civic media, go in there and tell them that you appreciate their advertising with our company.
There are little things that you can do.
Not everybody can buy a t-shirt.
Not everybody can buy a mug.
We absolutely understand that.
But you can do word of mouth.
which is really, really important.
So if you can help spread the word about civic media to your friends, to your neighbors, to your family members, or again, support our sponsors, go in and let our sponsors know how much you appreciate their being on civic media and helping our mission.
And Shane, the important footnote to that very, very outstanding recommendation, it falls in the category not only of letting the people whose views are different than yours know about that, but supporting those people
who are doing the right thing in america and that includes again not only i would have been modestly and and with bias say it is civic media and the advertisers here but also there are federal judges out there who are doing the right thing they can't respond to you but write them a letter write a letter to judge maim frimpong who a number of weeks ago said yes you need reasonable suspicion before you can arrest people even though that's contrary to what the supreme court said 10 days ago send a letter to to those people frankly at harvard
that are pushing back against this president and say, please keep doing that again, they
probably won't
respond to you, do that as well.
Find those advertisers, find those media outlets that are doing the right thing, print media,
obviously
radio, television, and let them know too, thank you for doing this, keep it up, we were noticing and it is important.
Those letters can be, I would say, just as effective as the letters have complained.
that may or may not fall on deaf ears.
And I think those letters that aren't complaints actually stand out a little bit more because they're not complaints.
Everybody takes the time to sit down and gripe about stuff, but to actually write something down about, you did a good job.
Thank you for doing a good thing.
Those are increasingly rare.
speaks in the public domain, do the same thing, right?
Exactly that.
Let them know.
I always say, if you go to the mailbox and you see a handwritten note from me, Jane or Greg, that's got a stamp on it.
Got all the other things in your mail.
What do you open first?
Not just because it comes from me, but because it is handwritten, it's personal.
That's the one that gets the attention.
Absolutely.
All right.
We wanted to jump into a little bit the little sit down that Todd Blanche had with Jelaine Maxwell and
I was reading an article that honest to God Jim I had to stop and read it three times to make sure I understand he essentially said that the only reason that he sat down with this woman convicted not only of trafficking women but lying convicted of lying to questioners Todd Blanche said
The point of the interview was not for me to pressure test every single answer she gave.
The point of the interview was to allow her to speak, which no one had done before.
Is that?
I know I've been waiting for Jelaine Maxwell to have a chance to speak and defend herself on all the terrible things that she did.
Are
you
kidding me?
Right.
Can we list the 17 things that are wrong with that?
Mr. Deputy Attorney General, who practices law privately on behalf of the president, still has an attorney-client relationship with him, by the way, and is now the second in command of the United States Department of Justice, stunning representations.
So let's pull back and ask that question once again.
If you are, in fact, in the midst of an investigation, if there's something legitimate you need to do, number one, you don't ask the powder pup questions that he asked, you go in and you do
In fact, press for credibility issues and information, that sort of thing.
That was not this interview.
It was very badly done, as any lawyer of any kind will tell you.
And again, to the comment that you just made about his justification now, he's probably trying to explain himself to the American public, if not the bar.
Basically, what he also says things like, except to the American people, determine whether they believe her answers were credible or whether they found her not credible.
What?
What Mr. Blanche, what are you talking about?
And in the end, again, this notion that somehow this served some purpose is just absolutely ridiculous.
And beyond that, she had a right, of course, during the course of her trial to have that voice out there.
Again, she is every right in the Fifth Amendment not to testify.
There's the forum to get on the stand and tell America.
You did or did not do this.
You don't have to do that, Mr. Blanch.
You're the prosecutor
in this
case, who you were.
And so what is the point of this?
We know what the point of this was.
It was political.
It's
because your former client asked you to do that to put together this record that is meaningless in terms of any new information.
It is full of denials.
It's full of lies.
And you're the one who perpetuated that.
How dare you, Mr. Deputy Attorney General, do that.
And now I'm trying to justify this on the basis that I wanted to give her a forum.
Well, you know what?
There are a lot of Americans who would like a forum.
Are you going to go around and interview every one person out there?
No, that's not your job.
It never has been.
And this is just the latest attempt by someone who knows better, probably, who is trying now to justify somehow the bad behavior in which he himself engaged.
And I think it's really important, Jim, to...
emphasize that point that what he did in this sit down with Elaine Max, well, does not happen.
That is not his role.
He should never have done that, ever.
Not
at all.
Not at all.
If there are reasons for investigations to be conducted, we have recent events where that has happened plainly.
What do you do?
You send people, it could be federal agents, it could be state agents, local agents who interview people dispassionately based upon the facts.
That's how you do it.
You get a report.
You send that back into the prosecutors.
Decisions are made about prosecutors.
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Calvin, can you play it?
I just want to say I thoroughly enjoy
when Jim gets fired up about this stuff because I don't think enough people in that sphere are.
So Jim, I very much appreciate you and everything that you bring to the forefront as far as this topic goes.
Thank you so much for that voice note coming in from WLCX and LaCrosse and also Joe and LaCrosse.
Thank you so much for having Jim Santel on your show.
He is so informative and explains things so well.
What nice comments and I'm blushing here through the mechanisms of radio and it is my great joy.
I will tell you the yesterday Constitution Day.
I had this great opportunity.
I was in Williams Bay and 60 people, nonpartisan, apolitical Republicans, Democrats got together.
We talked about these constitutional challenges.
And again, like your listeners who say these very nice things about this program, others, and yes, also me, I guess.
People are getting together saying, we are frustrated, we are concerned, and we need to know what the facts are.
And so that's what you do here every day.
And that's why listeners respond in that way.
It was really very reassuring to know that, again, there are people across parties yesterday.
60 people gathered together from 10 o'clock until 1 o'clock
in the
afternoon at the library in Williams Bay.
And they're all, again, no violence here.
They are angry about what's going on in America these days, and it's an informed population.
I would offer that political people on all sides of the aisle should be attentive to those folks, not only for what's happening about 400 days from now when you go to the polls, but also right now.
If you are losing the credibility inside your constituencies, you are doing something wrong, and maybe right now you don't suffer the consequences of that, but you kind of think about your legacy long-term as does
This attorney general, I realize the president doesn't think about his legacy at all.
Other people out there who are joining this attorney general and doing these kinds of things, whether it's the Health and Human Services Secretary, Homeland Security, there is a time when the history of this time will be written.
Where will you be?
What side of history will you be on in government and also then outside government?
That's the question you ask every single day on this program.
Well, and Justice Sonia Sotomayor said during a recent decision, she said, I hear some of these arguments coming out from some of the Trump administration lawyers.
And I wonder, where did they go to law school?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She says again, just yesterday, she's a New York and and she says that if if in fact you're advocating for some of these things, I don't know.
I wonder out loud.
Every time I listen to a lawyer-trained representative saying we should criminalize free speech in some way, I think to myself that law school failed.
That's one
of many things that she says, right?
And so, again, here's where you're right.
Right to the dean of the law school, who is people who are saying these things, and ask for a statement of whether or not you, dean, whoever that is, endorse what your graduate has said on the record in court, or frankly,
in the media somewhere.
Is this what you're teaching at?
Fill in the blank law school.
That's that question.
Be a part of that advocacy too.
Isn't that an important part of what we do?
I'm also going to say this, too, that, you know, when the time comes to write the history of all of the things that have happened over the past year or so, 10 years, actually, I should say, there will be the attempts to whitewash it, to sanewash it, to redirect the, to all the, quote, good things, as we are going to see with this history, the country
has a
history of doing with just the Civil War and statues and naming
them
dead traitors and the Smithsonian.
Where will you be on the side of true history to say this is not what happened?
These are the things these individuals said and did to suffocate our democracy to benefit their pockets and their power.
That is the ultimate mission, I think, and that we should have as an informed electorate is that when the history books are also written, not just at the ballot box to cast our vote, but when they're trying to write these stories, we stand up and say no.
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Good morning.
Dean, thanks for joining us.
What did you want to say?
Good morning.
Thanks for having me.
I'm just, you know, everything that Trump has done over the years, I've always thought that cooler heads would prevail and things were going to even out.
But this most recent thing with the FCC is threatening of Jimmy Kimmel.
This is how democracy dies.
Yes.
This is
I'm actually frightened now.
Not for me.
I'm old enough where I'll probably not live to see it go the full length.
But I'm afraid for my children.
They're both members of marginalized communities because of their sexuality.
And I just think welcome to the American oligarchy.
Yeah.
Yes.
I really appreciate it Dean.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for checking in and taking the time to make a call.
And yeah, it's frightening.
I'm with you.
I'm 65.
I'll be dead.
But I am genuinely concerned for what is to come because we are following the playbooks of Victor Orban in Hungary.
He took over the universities first and all the universities capitulated and the next thing he did was take over the media.
And that is dangerous for
all of us, all of us.
And I'm not a mathematician, Jane and Greg, you know, but we're eight months into this.
There are 48, 40 more months of this.
And so
if
it is denigrated this quickly, this fast, again, we've got elections in about 12, 14 months or so.
But we've got 40 more months of this.
What is going to happen in the immediate future while we're still here?
As you've said, we have an obligation to push back.
Jim Santel, join him Saturdays at the fabulous show Amicus, a law review 9 to 11.
Thanks so much, Jim.
We'll see you next week.
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Correct.
Wanted to start off with this.
Brittany Merleau will be here in a little bit for a little weather and wine, and then we will lighten it up.
But for right now, this shouldn't happen to anybody.
I don't care who you are.
I don't care what your politics are.
I don't care what side of the issues you are on.
This has to stop.
This from WPR, Wisconsin GOP lawmaker, says he's received death threats after his comments on the LGBTQ plus flag.
We talked about this on Monday with Shaly Pittman, that there is a new.
decision that only certain flags will be allowed to fly over the state capital.
This will not include the LGBTQ flag.
There's certain parameters now that they're going to limit this.
But Republican State Representative Jerry O'Connor says that he is in favor of
limiting the amount of flags that can fly.
And now he's been getting some really serious death threats.
There are more than a dozen, I don't know, maybe two dozen death threats, including phrases like, this guy needs to be Charlie Kirk.
This guy needs a lethal injection.
We know where you live.
You need to be hung in the public square.
This needs to stop people.
And this happens all across the board.
This, fearing violent threats, CDC medical experts are afraid to talk about vaccine safety.
Former CDC chief medical officer, Deborah Hury, says, I have many people that won't speak about vaccines now and have taken their names off of papers.
They don't want to present publicly anymore, publicly anymore, because they have been purposely targeted.
I myself have been subject to threats.
This needs.
to stop from
everybody.
Yeah, I don't.
And that that's I mentioned this earlier in I mentioned this in the first hour.
I hate that we have to say this out loud now that that we're against political violence because it should go without saying it should be a given that while I disagree with this
Law they want to put into place that's limiting the amount of the flags.
They will fly on the Capitol I do not think any harm should come to someone who does support it and just to Just to answer the question from Brendan on the live stream He says what about pride month too bad?
No pride flag during pride month either and this all stems from the fact that Tony Evers a few years ago flew the pride flag during pride month and was the first governor to do so and when you look at the story itself it looks to be targeting
the pride flag.
And there was, there, I think there was a, there was another flag in there that had to do with like, not black lives matters, but it's just, it's, they want, Juneteenth.
Thank you very much, Calvin.
I appreciate it.
Thank you for that reminder.
So read up about, and I have it in the show notes about what the, what the law covers.
And I do not agree with it, but I certainly do not agree with the threatening of anyone's life.
Cause that self's nothing.
It doesn't, it,
delegitimizes your platform personally.
If you advocate for the violence of others, especially if you think the violence of those that you support is abhorrent as it is.
But if you think it's okay for others, then you have no credibility.
So take a step back and just say, all right, this isn't good thinking.
This is not how we achieve results.
Yes.
I don't like this law, but hopefully guess what?
Next year we get to vote in about 400 days for our state senate and our state assembly and because of fair maps, fair ur maps, we have the ability to put new lawmakers into office and that's what you should be focusing your time and attention.
There are people making announcements every day in the state running for state senate, state assembly, governor, lieutenant governor.
If those are the people who represent you, get on board.
Knock on doors, make phone calls, talk to people, because Jim just talked about in the last hour, that there are Republicans out there who don't like what's happening.
Find those individuals and empower them to speak up as well.
But making snide, terrible comments online or through whatever medium you're choosing, doesn't do
anything.
Well, the threats are, it's, stop it.
Just stop it.
And by the way, since we're on the subject of free speech, right, and I'm going to let's share this.
Wow.
Because yes, we'll share this.
Free speech is important, even if we don't like.
the things you say.
And we're not going to play the voice note because there's curse words in here, but let me share what just came in.
Jane, you are a chain-smoking hag.
You're a skank.
You're a childless B-word.
You're nasty and ugly.
Grow up.
Get a job.
Become a Republican.
You're a nasty, lying, retorting.
Okay.
And you're just a piece of plank.
Good.
Something, something.
Okay.
Grow up.
Get a job.
Become a Republican.
By the way, that's not my last name.
Just, you know, oh, that spelling
is not a
spelling is not important.
I support your right to say those things.
Yeah, I do.
Yeah.
It's all free speech.
That's
called your opinion.
Yeah.
Oh, there's another one, too.
There's another
one.
Oh, good.
He's back.
I'll say he's because he'll appreciate me, you know, acknowledging his gender.
Um, yeah, I mean, it's just amazing.
The the trolls.
The people who disagree so there's people who disagree with us and I appreciate there people who've called in and I'm gonna shout him out right now Dave from mech one you've called and you've been respectful We disagree and we talk and that's it.
That's great.
I have respect for that I Love those conversations because we can go back and forth and I want to have them I don't want I don't want the person who left this very colorful voice No, nothing bad to happen to them because that doesn't make me happy at all.
That would never make me happy
So but when it comes to the trolls
Well, my whole thing is and again, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
It's only taken me 44 years to be called the C word.
Mm-hmm.
I kind of feel like that's an accomplishment
That's a
terrible high
five
achievement, but but you know, you have the right to say those things I just if you want to point out the flaws in my arguments if you would like to point out the flaws in my logic.
Yes
I welcome that, absolutely.
Well, this guy
who is now identifying himself, but I won't identify him.
I kind of think I know who it is.
Oh, I know.
He said it.
He's given it away in all the messages.
Oh, nice.
But he also, like, you know, said that I don't have an American male haircut.
I mean, see, that's the thing is like,
yeah.
See, that's the thing, Jane, is that those things have never bothered me because this is the one time I'll say this.
I was bullied as a kid, so I've heard way worse.
I bet you have.
And so therefore, I'm just like, is this my weight?
Oh, God, not my weight, everybody.
Oh, no.
Greg'll just be over here, this blubbering
mess because he's
been completely blown out of the water.
Into my genderless vegan yogurt.
Just mean comments.
Oh, God, save
me.
We'll be OK.
I think we will survive.
This, again, going back to
Stop it.
People have the right to disagree with you.
People have the right, it's called the First Amendment right, to have opinions about things without being threatened, without being doxxed, without their children being put at risk.
We're better?
I know you're really trying hard to say better.
I want us
to
be better than this.
I think there are a lot of us who are better than that.
And unfortunately,
The people who yell the loudest are the ones who are heard.
If you don't have the money to buy a platform, then you have to scream louder than everybody else, and in certain instances we see it all the time, like the gentleman who
He's trolling so hard.
I think his house is under a bridge.
He's going to hurt himself.
And he only comes out every once in a while.
And man, I like the end, though.
Grow up, get a job and become a public.
I'm grown up.
I'm tall.
We're working.
I'm working my job right now.
Are we working?
I turned 15 a few years.
We are actually working.
And this is just a side note.
We could talk about another day.
Someone told me once, they said, Greg, as you get older and you get married and you buy, you'll become a conservative.
That's how it works.
OK.
I've been married 23 years.
You own a
home.
I'm waiting.
Yeah.
I'm okay.
I'm sure it's going to happen.
And especially with comments like that, because I want to be just like you.
But anyways, thanks for reaching out, everybody.
We appreciate it.
And Cassandra, you're absolutely right.
Snowflakes, they are only on the left, right, sure.
We're going to be warm and fuzzy on the other side.
Brittany Merleau will be here with a little weather and wine.
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She joins us every Thursday at this time for a segment we call A Little Weather and Wine written in Merlot.
Civic media meteorologist is here.
Good morning, my friend.
How are you?
Good morning, Jane.
I've missed you.
I'm so much better now seeing your face.
Well, that's lovely of you.
Thank you.
I know Greg and Calvin did a great job while I was gone.
I've heard nothing but good things.
Nothing but
good
things.
I just
heard some bad
things
from
us.
That's an outlier.
Don't go there.
Anyway, the weather has been incredible at least here in southeastern Wisconsin.
This cannot possibly last, can it?
Oh, no.
No, I can't.
I'm sorry.
It's the second summer.
You know, we get that
every year.
It does.
Yeah.
Second summer.
So how long does second summer hang around?
Um, it's pretty much over.
Maybe like tomorrow you might hit 80 or something, but
then it ends.
Yeah.
It's over.
It's over.
Yeah.
We've got this pretty big system that's going to be moving in, and it's already draping a front through the state.
And as that continues south, we're just going to see more and more shower and storm chances.
It's going to be actually a really dark and damp dreary weekend.
It could be soaking in places,
actually.
OK, so not necessarily the weekend to go out and do all of my outside things.
No, unfortunately.
Oh, I
can't do yard work.
Oh, man.
I
gotta
watch Ted Lasso for a 15th time.
Oh, man.
You do.
Is this good?
This is going to be statewide.
Brittany, the whole change is going to affect the entire state.
Yeah, pretty much well.
I mean, the south, you're going to hang on to a little bit more mild temperatures versus the north.
For example, Saturday up north, it's going to be in the low 60s.
when down south you'll be in the mid 70s on Saturday.
Then it might flip on Sunday where up north you could maybe make it to the mid 70s and then down south on Sunday you could just be in the low 60s.
So kind of a flip-flop interesting system.
It is just going to be swirling showers and storms throughout Friday night, Saturday, Sunday, maybe even lingering into Monday.
Then another system wants to move through.
That jet stream is seriously setting up right over Wisconsin.
It looks pretty active with wet weather on and off honestly for the next two weeks or so.
And then I was looking too.
Later on we do drop pretty chilly where I am seeing some
50s in the forecast, and that's before the month ends.
Oh, wow.
So that's
going to
obviously affect the changing of the trees, the coloring of the trees, right?
The earlier the cooler weather comes along, doesn't that make an impact?
Yeah, the weather plays a huge part.
High wind and rain can knock the leaves off faster.
We usually get that here in Wisconsin.
That's usually what happens to us.
But the sunshine and cooler nights is what really gives those vibrant colors.
So with this week that we just had, the nights weren't as cool, but the sunshine was out.
We're already seeing a couple of counties up north, Taylor, Forest, Florence, and even Brown County by Green Bay are at 30 to 50% color already.
Oh, that
seems early.
Yes.
I mean, their peak is supposed to be second, third week of October.
So, yeah, they're already changing and I can verify that in Marathon County too.
It's like, ooh, it's about to be here.
But when you get those cooler temperatures for later, I think it's definitely gonna fill in.
I mean, that is right at the end of September into early October and everything is going to pop after that and it actually looks to dry out too.
So, it's a perfect weather conditions moving in right in time for October.
And I think it's really cool.
I'm such a nerd.
I was looking into why do they change the colors that they do?
Because, you know, maples and oaks have the red leaves and stuff.
Did you know that there's these little sugars that are in different things?
So basically, this anthocyanin is in a red leaf, but it's also in cranberries and blueberries.
That's what gives it that color.
That brilliant red.
Yeah.
So then I was like, OK, well, why the yellow?
What's that?
Well, it's the same thing that's in corn and papayas.
And interesting and orange is the same thing as that than a carrot.
So when you trap those sugars in the leaves, that's what shines through as the tree is starting to shut down for winter.
Hey, does anybody know why Brittany Merlot wins all the awards every
year?
And that geek, that geekdom pays off because you write great articles that talk about these.
I mean, you talk about a whole, you don't just talk about the weather.
You talk about things that keep us safe, how to
keep our eyes out for things that are coming up in the weather.
These wonderful little tidbits of of joy that about
why the
leaves change color.
Apparently they needed a low sugar diet.
I wasn't really listening.
But the point is this is what I love when you come here and talk to us because there's always these great little pieces of information.
Well, and I think to Brittany, I think you are a good indicator of who makes a good journalist because you are curious and you find out one thing and it's like, well, why is this thing like that?
I'm
going to find
out why that thing does that thing.
I like that.
That's what a journalist does.
And that's why you're an award-winning journalist.
So as far as this rain coming in though, Brittany, and you had mentioned that we're going to have this Gulfstream sitting over Wisconsin for the next two weeks, we're not talking about dumping another 14 inches on one area in 24 hours, I hope.
No, and I'm not seeing that in the forecast.
What I am seeing though is potentially heavy rain Friday night and then maybe Sunday night where we could see an inch or two.
So, not 14 inches, but an inch or two still adds up.
It does.
And then with the consistent rain too on top of that, it's just going to be damp and dreary puddles, maybe low lying flooding in certain areas that usually kind of get that after a lot of rain.
But I don't think this is going to be a flash flooding extreme downpour scenario at all.
All right, Brittany Merlot joins us every Thursday at this time for a little weather and wine keeping us up all updated.
Thank you so much, my dear.
We will see you next Thursday.
Have a great weekend.
Thanks, you too.
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Lots of talk about the Brewers.
It's, it's pretty, it's pretty exciting.
It's good.
Yeah, they've they've won four or five here, which is a nice You know a little bit of a turnaround.
They were kind of dragging over the over the previous month since the end of that 14 game winning streak But it's it's really you know, it's a pretty comfortable situation.
They've got
You know, there's a chance the Cubs still catch them, but it's really not likely.
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We'll do the trick.
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There's, there's some injuries too.
You know, Trevor McGill, Jose Quintana are kind of the big ones right now top of mind, but, but they are, you know, they're in a comfortable place.
It would be nice to wrap this up sooner rather than later.
And then they can, you know, give guys rest, mess around a little bit, experiment, figure out what they want for their playoff roster.
I don't know if they'll get.
you know, how much time they'll get to do that, but, uh, but they are definitely heading, heading in a great place.
And there are only four wins away from a franchise record, uh, for, for most victories in, in franchise history.
So that's also pretty exciting.
Yeah.
I, you know, the, I've been very fearful about the magic number because I felt like it was too early to ask.
And then I saw an article written, I think, I don't know if it was you who wrote it, but yeah, we're at six and
When you say that they it's comfortable and you foresee moving forward with you know a Division clinching the division a first round by that makes me feel better because now I'm just I look at the I look at the standings every day like just come on I It'd be so great not to have to go to the wild card again and and just let's just get that out Can we just this this time please especially after you know, and I don't want to
belabor the point, but it is true.
And I'm going to push this put this on me at the beginning of the season in March.
I was shrugging and saying, yeah, if we get a 500 season, I'll be impressed.
And my goodness, I think we are at 600 right now and have been the best record and MLB for how long?
First team to 70, 80 and 90 wins.
I mean, it's just been a season that I don't feel like anyone, whether you are in the business of talking about it or just a big fan.
Could have
seen this.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah, this is just on paper, it still doesn't make sense.
They still don't have a third baseman, although Caleb Durbin has been white hot.
You still don't look at that team and say, Oh, they got a, they got great guys at every position on the infield, you know, Joey Ortiz has struggled offensively all year long as good as he has been defensively.
First base has been okay.
You know, Andrew Vaughn had that moment in the sun, but we're not talking about a position that has been one of one of the biggies over the course of the year.
So there's, there's.
places they could have gotten better and they're starting pitching is good.
But I would go into the postseason looking at this team and be like, they don't, they don't maybe have that top three.
They had that in 2021 when they had, you know, Burns, Woodruff and Peralta at their best.
This year, they've got Brandon Woodruff, who's
Who's pitched amazing?
He's been incredible.
But he is, you know, like some of the tools that are available to him aren't anymore.
He doesn't throw as hard.
You know, his stuff isn't as good.
He has to be more of a pitcher.
And then Freddy Peralta has been good, but he usually doesn't work very deep into games.
You know, you could, you could find flaws with every one of the starters.
And, and yet, despite, I guess what you would call the shortcomings, they are like you said, they've been the best team in baseball for quite some time.
Now, I would also point out that.
Typically the best team in baseball is a 100 win team.
Even by now, like they are running away with that honor.
We haven't had that this year.
It is, there is a lot of parody and so much so that the team that's going to get the six seed in the NL is going to barely be above 500 teams.
So, you know, yes, they are the best.
I would say the gap between them at the other playoff teams is probably going to be pretty small.
The Cubs Dodgers.
Phillies, Padres, those are teams that are just as good as Milwaukee and, you know, in some cases better if you're looking at different aspects of the roster.
So it isn't like, you know, they have this crown and they're guaranteed anything, you know, like they could very easily lose and people wouldn't even be surprised by that.
So they have to find a way to play their best here at a point in the season, you know, this postseason part of the year that has eluded them the last few years when they've had home games and they weren't able to cash in on that, both of the last two seasons.
You know, even in 2021, they had home field advantage and weren't able to keep it against the Braves.
So like they, it would be, it would still be, I think, a breakthrough to finally get back to where they were in 2018.
And that's the NLCS, let alone anything that comes beyond that.
Exactly.
If you're just joining us, Milwaukee Journal, Sentinel Sports Guru J, our Radcliffe is our guest to talk all things sports.
Obviously, the big story is the Brewers.
And as they move forward with just a few games left in the regular season, so you had mentioned some of the teams.
Who are gonna all things happen the way that we want them?
Let's assume that and and we we lock it up and we we get our you know We get in there.
It's not a wild card.
Who do you anticipate will be some of the tougher challengers that the brewers could be facing off against?
Yeah, so right now the Phillies are pretty locked into that two seed if they if they don't in fact catch the brewers which I'll talk about in a second because Brewer's fans might actually want that just for personal preference because
Right now, if the season ended today, the Brewers would have the one seed and they would play the winner of the Padres against the Cubs.
They're technically the four and the five seed because the Cubs didn't win their division.
So they would be the top three, the division winners get the top three seats.
So the Cubs actually will have a better record than the NOS winner, probably, but they would be the four seed.
Well, the Cubs are are tough for a couple of things.
One, is there a bad matchup?
And two, do you really want to get into the playoffs and have Cubs fans flooding American family field like they always do?
You know, there's way more of them than there are of us.
That's true.
It's it's just they've got the spending power to do it.
And
That could be, that could be kind of annoying.
You know, if you don't want to see your home field advantage kind of siphoned off a little bit and the Padres are a very good team.
I, you know, they would be a very tough matchup as well.
So if the Brewers were to be passed by the Phillies, you know, say the, say the Brewers fall to the number two seed, now they wouldn't be facing either one of those teams and in the second round, the theoretical second round, they'd be facing either the Dodgers or whichever team gets this last playoff spot, a team that's quite honestly going to have a slightly above 500 record and not be all that great.
The Dodgers are still the Dodgers.
The, the Brewers did beat them all six times this year.
So there's at least that.
I don't know if anybody wants to face the Dodgers.
They're playing pretty good baseball right now, actually.
So it's probably, you know, it's, it's a situation where it's, you can't really pick your, your path, any path.
And furthermore, like against the Diamondbacks and the Mets the last two years, teams that the Brewers were favored to beat on paper, that did not happen.
So like even that last seed team is going to be dangerous.
We have seen that in the playoffs time and time again.
Uh, but.
I think there's at least an argument.
If you are a looking at it from a fans perspective that doesn't want to see Cubs fans overrun the place, maybe hold off on the Cubs getting here until the NLCS and maybe just not have to face them in the playoffs.
Those two have never faced, you know, the Brewers and Cubs in a playoff series before.
So I, I don't, you know, maybe, maybe Brewers fans stand their ground and they end up filling the joint and it's not as, as lot, you know, it's 50 as it frequently is.
But I bet that's not going to be the case.
So I would imagine, I would imagine if I, if I was a fan, I might be like, can they just avoid the Cubs?
Is there any way to just steer them?
Maybe they storm Wrigley field though, you know, like they did that for game 163 in 2018.
There were tons of brewers fans at Wrigley field.
So maybe it works in reverse too.
I don't know.
Maybe.
I would love to see a cub list playoffs for the brewers just because it just adds a layer of stress to.
My life
I'm not even thinking about other people right now just thinking about
myself just me and yeah, I mean it's every version of this I would like to see the brewers take on the Dodgers again for and and as a as a as a Brewers Dodgers 2 from 2018 where game 7 they lost it a game 7 and and it was just
miserable to watch, but I, I have faith that the brewers could, could keep the streak alive if we had to take on the Dodgers again, because it's just, there's a fire and energy with that team.
So I also would love a version where we could just bypass it all and they just give the brewers a ring.
Be like, here guys, you did great.
Can you make
that
happen?
Yeah.
Let's just give us the
trophy.
And we're
definitely not, you know, the Cubs, the Cubs clinched the playoff spot yesterday.
Like I said, that's the first time since 2020 that they've been in the postseason.
It's been five years without.
And before that, you know, because 2020 is weird and like everybody got in because of the COVID short and season.
Before that, it was 2018 when they, when they lost in that wild card game, when the, when the Brewers and the Cubs went down to the absolute wire.
So this is unusual for them.
They are not frequently this good.
This is a pretty good Cubs team.
Uh, and it's, it's pretty meaningful for the Chicago fans.
So that's why I feel like there's going to be a lot of them.
coming to Milwaukee because this is, this is not something that they've had the last few years.
Cannot relate.
The brewers go to the playoffs every year.
Just simply cannot relate to what
the playoffs again.
Okay.
Cool.
JR, we got
about two and a
half minutes left.
Uh, let's talk a little bit about the Packers.
And I did want to, the one thing that jumped out at me was the lions just crushed the bears.
And it was like 52 to something.
Wasn't it?
Yeah, yeah, the Bears are real bad real real bad.
What a shame.
That's a shame.
It's tough.
You just hate to see it to Chicago sports teams.
No.
You just
hate it.
I just feel bad for the fans.
They always walk in on day one.
They're like, here it is.
This is a year.
We have the insert new whatever it is here, whether it's coach quarterback running, but doesn't matter.
And they think that's the fix.
And then within 40 minutes of the first game, they're like, oh, it's going to be the same as always.
Yeah, they win the offseason every year and never really in the season.
The lions, like, yes, they looked great, which even though the Bears are bad, it certainly lent greater credence to the success that the Packers had in week one against the Lions and completely shut them down and played so well defensively.
I think that's just what, you know, the sky's the limit for this defense.
I think it's just a question of how good are they?
They've held two teams that came into the, you know, to the higher scoring, greater.
greatest teams of the best teams in the NFC last year and help them completely in check.
So maybe those teams are way down.
Maybe not.
Maybe this is just really a special, special defense.
So I don't know how much more we'll learn against Cleveland because Cleveland is.
Not great.
They have a they have a quarterback who's very old and will probably be under pressure a lot.
So we'll see how that goes.
They also have one of the best defensive players in football in Miles Garrett.
So the offense, you know, they've got a challenge too because they haven't exactly.
They haven't crushed it.
They've been OK.
They've been good enough for sure.
But they haven't crushed it.
So I think there's some some levels to unlock there.
We'll see if the Browns are kind of the you know, just the just what they need.
Just the fixings they need to get to get that part of the game on track.
I would really like to see the Lions do well.
Yeah.
Sure.
Yeah, my wife's a Lions fan.
We hang a Lions flag at my house, in deference to her, of course.
Everyone thinks it's me.
They see me walking around like, oh, I see your Lions flag like, hold on.
Wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait.
You
should just hang a small asterisk
underneath it, too, so people understand there's a reason.
Good point, my wife.
I need a second flagpole for the asterisk.
Yeah,
exactly.
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by Noel Haynes with the byline, headline reads, administrator suspended after selling Akron Public Schools lawn mowers on Facebook Marketplace.
Just suspended?
Just suspended.
I think they have fired him.
Akron Public Schools employees suspended at the school board meeting Monday after, yes, selling the school's lawn mowers on Facebook Marketplace.
Administrator Steve Keenan traded in 11 school lawnmowers to a vendor without the board's approval, allegedly so he could buy new lawnmowers.
So he sells 11 of the school's lawnmowers to a local vendor.
Then he goes back and buys seven of them back under a friends and family discount.
Then he goes home and works on them.
and lists five of the seven lawnmowers for sale on Facebook Marketplace.
Okay, so now that you've, okay, you described this earlier and it was very confusing because I thought he had sold their equipment.
He did.
To a local vendor.
To buy new equipment for the school.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Okay, allegedly.
Allegedly.
Because it sounds like he just took advantage of a really sweet deal.
Yeah, he made about $14,000, $15,000.
So he takes the school's lawnmowers, sells them without permission, buys them back, takes them home, refurbishes them a little bit, and then puts them on Marketplace and breaks in about 15 grand.
He put some
like K-pop demon hunters, stickers on them.
He
detailed them.
They had flames on the
side.
It's like says you are
enough.
The APS school board under recommendation from the superintendent is considering firing him.
Yeah, because he violated the code of ethics.
He has been suspended without pay while they consider his firing in an update here on, uh, 19 news still says he's just suspended.
You
know, he's sitting somewhere like either a bar or garage going, I don't know what I did wrong.
Why was
it?
Was this wrong?
Was this
wrong?
We need a new lawnmowers.
I just, but you didn't buy new lawnmowers.
You bought him back, and then you sold it.
Just
hire a kid.
Kids need a job in
summertime.
Busy
this summer?
Yeah, right.
I'm surprised some schools haven't done that already.
Well, if he does lose his job, he can start a lawn mowing company.
Exactly, exactly.
Or start his own late night show.
I don't know.
We'll see what happens.
There's many job
openings right
now.
There are absolutely.
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