We Love Our Libraries (Hour 1)

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How are you doing now today, Callan?

I'm doing well.

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right.

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Charlie Pittman will be here to talk about all the things we may have missed.

And one of the big things we did not talk about, because of course it was over the weekend, was the flooding, the historic and shocking flooding in Milwaukee and Milwaukee County this past weekend.

A lot of people affected by it, if you are affected by it, if you are going through it right now, our hearts are with you.

We hope you are safe.

We hope you are able to get what you need to get done.

But shawley will be going over some of the finer details as well as and pat was talking about this earlier on his show mornings with pack right low some of the bills that governor evers both vetoed as well as signed we'll talk about those with her at 9 35 so stick around for that of course we have ourselves a wonderful wonderful audio sorbet today audio sorbet is our we as you know is our daily break from everything going on make sure we going it's going to be a lot of news happening today so we want to there are the harps

There are the harps and that audio sorbet is what is that one thing this summer you finally got done that one project that one thing you whether it's around the house whether it was at work whatever that was that one thing or two things or I'll tell you what you can even tell me that thing that you really want to get done but man that couch is comfy and parties are happening in festivals but yeah audio sorbet what is that one thing this summer that you got done that's going to be a 1035 and then of course we wrap the show up with this shouldn't be a thing

always at 10 10 52 today is the smooth move edition this one provided by the very handsome and capable Luke Mathers and I had to do two Google searches to make sure it's true and it is true and I am truly shocked by what the internet has told me but you're not to find out more by staying close here at the show today for this shouldn't be a thing in the second hour Like I said before there was a lot of flooding this week in historic tragic flooding

saw images, Calvin, I don't know about you, but I was telling Pat just a few minutes ago when I was on his show, I in my life have never seen flooding like this.

I've lived in southeastern Wisconsin my entire life and I've never seen images like this happen before to the point where when I saw it at first, I thought I was looking at another state because it just in southeastern Wisconsin doesn't get flooding like this.

Calvin, what did you see this weekend or did you know anybody who was affected by it?

I didn't do not know anyone personally that was affected by it, but yeah, I saw images of Ampham Field down by that interchange.

The water was up like past the windows on some cars.

Yeah,

definitely.

Yeah, I agree.

I'm racking my brain.

I feel like we had to have seen flooding like that at some point in my life somewhere in Wisconsin, but definitely.

in recent memory, the craziest I can remember.

Yeah, if you're out there and you're here and if you want to tell us about your experience, feel free to give us a call 855-75-CIVIC, 855-75-2, 4842.

But the Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewer District urges that residents continue to cut water use to minimum, to a minimum amount of, as untreated water enters Milwaukee's waterways in Lake Michigan.

So just, yeah, go to the Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewer District.

If you live in that area for more...

instructions, things you need to do, things you need to be on the lookout for, because that is, we want everyone to be safe, especially, you know, it's not just about your car, it's not just about your, it could be your basement, it could be whatever in your home, but it's also about the drinking water, and we want to make sure everyone stays safe.

So yes, Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewer District is a place you're going to want to go for more information on that.

And as I said earlier, Shaly Pittman will be joining us at 935, and this will be something we talk about more.

And that, that

image Calvin you're talking about, I feel like that's the one I'm seeing on CNN and other news networks that drone shot of the park, the Brewer's Park just being like drawn back and seeing all the flooding.

So hearts and our thoughts and our good wishes go to all those who are affected by that.

And we will, we will report more as we know and keep it here, civicmedia.us slash news for any updates as well.

Got a great news department, got great reporters on the ground here in southeastern Wisconsin, as well as all over the state.

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All right.

Calvin you've heard me talk about this before I'm a big fan of audio books.

I know you're a big fan of comic books Do you ever get your comic books through the library system?

Do you ever go to?

The library to get physical comic books or do you download them via the Libby app?

Have you ever done that before?

You know I just recently Because I've always been a big reader of traditional books.

Yeah, but I've never really gotten into comic books.

Yeah until this past year

I got into comic books after watching Invincible show on Amazon Prime.

Pretty good.

Check it out.

But yeah, I actually lost my library card in the last two or three years and I went and got a new one for the sole purpose of using the Libby app to read comic books.

Well, and it is a widely popular platform and today in today's Milwaukee Journal.

the byline by Maya Pandy is saying that Wisconsin libraries may find there are drastic reductions to services under new federal cuts.

Are you someone who loves the library?

Do you love going to the library?

Do you like picking up your books?

Do you like going on the Libby app?

Do you like downloading either whether it's ebooks or whether for me, like I do, I do audio books.

If you are a fan of the library and you are hearing about this now, give us a call 855-752-484-2855-757.

We all know that the cuts are coming from the big bill for billionaires We all know that things are going to be taken and they've already been taken away that you know, they're They're gutting programs.

They're gutting social programs social safety nets gutting farming programs gutting kids programs You know in a way to make America great again I guess and one way it's going to directly affect Wisconsin is our library system because our library system works with a lot of federal funding and it's

Looking at the people who are running the Wisconsin library system are looking at the fact that these programs are going to be cut.

And one of the things that's going to be cut is the Libby program.

And as I said, it's a lot, it's a platform where users can borrow ebooks and audio books as well.

And the program is huge.

It is very, very popular.

Anyone I talk to who uses it loves us.

It's so very simple to use.

And it started as a pilot program.

And just, you know, they say they wanted to see where it was going to go.

It got so popular that the library staff is now permanently including has worked to permanently include funding for ebooks as part of the Wisconsin Legislature's budget for library statewide.

That's how popular and important they feel it is.

But now because of that funding level being cut from the federal level, we we will most likely see a cut in library services and this will cut.

services to Libby and one of the big problems too is that the president, President Trump, has called for the dismantling of the Institute for Museum and Library Services.

That is a department which funds libraries.

It's a federal agency that distributes millions of dollars to libraries nationwide accounting for between 30 to 50 percent of state library budgets and that's according to the chief officers of state library agencies and

That is just, that's a, for one thing to dismantle that whole department.

I don't, Calvin, I don't know you.

I don't know why.

I don't know how that makes America great again.

I would like, if you think this is wonderful, if you think Hurrah, Hurray, Huzzah for cutting the museum of library services, I'd love to hear 8-5-5-7-5-2, 4-8-4-2, 8-5-5-7-5 Civic.

But Calvin, you know,

I can't imagine you're shocked.

We're seeing these kinds of cuts all over the place.

But what are your thoughts on this?

What you don't understand, Greg, is the library system is where the woke lives indoctrinate our children with woke ideology.

I

didn't.

I'm just finding this out, folks.

For myself, I had no idea that this is where the woke lives go to read books and to indoctrinate the youth.

In March, Trump issued an executive order that would shut down the IMLS.

And fortunately, and thank you to Josh Coll and thank you to the support, probably most likely from Governor Evers, I'm sure, Wisconsin was one of the 20 states that sued to have this funding restored.

And it has been restored.

So for right now,

We are good in a federal judge ordered that the administration reinstate the funding.

This was passed in this past May.

But we got to keep on these topics because in September, the Congress is going to discuss the shutting down of the IMLS in the next month.

And the Trump administration has made it very, very clear that he wants this dismantled.

I don't think this is a good thing.

I don't think defunding libraries is a positive thing.

I don't believe it helps this country.

I would really believe that most of you listening right now also agree with me.

You do not believe that.

Let me know, call or text.

We want to hear from you.

if you want to do something about it, if you want to talk to your representatives and say, hey, this is not a good program, this is not a good discussion to be having, I take my kids to the library, I go to the library, we rely on Libby, we rely on that place.

And it's not Calvin just books, they rent out other things, they rent out movies, they rent out tools, they rent out, they do classes, there are summer programming happening at libraries, if

This is the beginning of cuts to our library system here in Wisconsin.

It can start with Libby.

Where is the next step?

Where is the next thing they have to cut?

Because it's not going to be about the Trump administration saying, we're going to cut these programs.

It's because of the funding to these libraries.

They will have to make the tough choices on what stays and what goes.

But if you want to let your voice be heard, you're going to go to myvote.wi.gov.

That is where you're going to put in your information.

You are going to find out who represents you.

And that

is going to tell you from the president of the United States, all the way down to, hey, if you still elect dog catcher, that'll be on your list as well.

But you can call those individuals and tell them what you think about the possibility funding of our libraries here in Wisconsin.

Tell them your stories.

Tell them how this is going to affect you.

Tell them what these great halls of learning do for you and your life and your family.

My vote.wi.gov for more information.

As we have always said on this show, when you call them, you're going to be kind and you're going to be respectful because the person answering is not the person who casts the vote.

It's an aide, an intern.

And you want to make sure you're being respectful on these topics because then they'll listen, they listen to you.

They'll take the information down and the messages get to who they need to get to.

So my vote.wi.gov.

is where you need to go.

If you have stories about the library, if you want to talk to us about the library, we want to hear from you.

Tony on the live stream says, I like our libraries.

Kids love it.

Exactly.

It's a wonderful place to be.

And we're going to take a short, short moment to grab some snacks, grab some water, because we got to stay hydrated.

And after we come back, we're going to talk about Tony Evers standing up for those who want to get better.

maybe get that solar energy in their life and keep their energy costs low because once again, the government's coming to take that money and Governor Evers says no, don't go anywhere.

We'll be right back.

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Good, good morning.

Welcome back to Matt and air on air.

My name is Greg Bach.

I will be your host this morning.

Jane is out, but don't worry.

She'll be back.

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Hello.

And we are here on the civic media radio network.

And we have a great show for you this morning.

Don't forget after the 9 30 news, we will have civic media's news director, shawley Pittman on the show.

She will be talking about the floods happening in Milwaukee County, as well as the mighty, mighty pen of one.

I think he's Anthony.

Is he Anthony Evers?

I don't know.

I'd, oh man, I call him Anthony a lot.

I knew that.

But Tony Evers is vetoing as well as passing legislative bills.

And we're going to talk about the ones that he has passed as well as once he was vetoed.

So don't, don't go anywhere.

She comes up after nine 30 and the news.

We were talking earlier before about the cuts because of the big bill for billionaire, also known as the big.

blob of a bill, also known as other things that I can't say on the radio.

But his name is Anthony Steven Evers.

Oh my God, his name is Anthony Steven Evers.

Calvin, that's a great name.

I love that.

My point is we were talking about the libraries and how they're going to be affected by these cuts in the federal budget.

And I asked folks here, what do libraries mean to you?

What do they do for you, for your family, for yourself?

How do you utilize them?

And because, I mean, you would think Calvin, I just, this is me being, you know, a fiscally responsible individual, if you will.

If we're not going to finance libraries, we're not going to fund libraries.

If we're not going to put the money into these programs, it's because people just, Calvin, they're not using them.

They're not using these libraries.

They're just sitting there empty empty halls full of dusty books, whereas you put it the

The woke libs come to indoctrinate the youth.

Well, that actually isn't the case at all.

And I know that because I've heard from some of you on the text line.

Julie from WASA, listening in WASA.

Wonderful.

Thank you so much for reaching out.

She says, I go to the library two or three days a week.

I do genealogy there.

Presentations in the community room.

Order items for other counties.

Read newspapers and magazines.

Make copies.

Borrow books.

Use computers.

Republicans are trying to dumb us down.

And I don't disagree with that to a certain point, Julie.

I believe that the key, the silver bullet for a, for in a government that wants to take over more power, authoritarian, totalitarian, however you want to call it is by lulling the people into not wanting to learn, making it harder for people to learn.

So they don't do it anymore because we have lives.

That's the thing is if you can't read books, we have other things to do.

If you're not educating yourself,

We find ways to take up that time.

And if we're not learning about what's going on, then we aren't informed and we can't make informed opinions.

And those who stand on top of the biggest soapboxes usually have the most clout and influence.

So yes, I don't disagree.

There is a sense of dumbing down the populace.

And I think that that's a wrong move, but you know.

I, I guess I'm a woke lib who likes the library.

Alison cut a hay says our cut a hay family library is invaluable to us.

Multiple trips each week for us and our grandchild.

Also, there are postcards to fill out to send to your representatives available at the library.

What a great.

So if you can't, if you want to go to my vote.wi.gov, you should go there regardless.

You can go to the library and sign postcards to send to your representative.

Phil went out and send it.

She says, and Carmella in Milwaukee.

Thank you so much for.

Calling our for texting as well Alice and Julie, but Carmella in Milwaukee says Greg as per usual our president Trump is not working on mega He wants library shut down why because they are true historians and he doesn't want us to record history But more importantly his dastardly deeds lovely use of the words will be engraved in history and he can't have that Because we might actually learn from history and learn not to repeat history mistakes.

Maybe or maybe not Carmell.

Thank you so much for yeah, I mean we were talking about that last week Kelvin we were talking about the fact that

Oops, the Smithsonian all of a sudden lost information on the the president's two time impeachment.

Talked about the fact that on the website, a national governmental website that they're all of a sudden portions of the Constitution that we're missing digitally, but that was an oopsie daisies, but they're all back now because someone actually saw that.

But yeah, it's about rewriting history.

It's about getting rid of the ability to access the books that teach us our history.

That way, it makes it easier for them to rewrite it.

But we don't want to do that.

We want to be in charge of our own destiny.

And we want to make sure that we can access that information.

That's why it's important to reach out to your representatives and tell them.

And on a state level, too, because we want to make sure all of our representatives know how we feel about these topics, specifically our library.

We don't have much time to talk about this, but I wanted to bring it up really quick here.

Speaking of cuts from the federal government another cut is in a possible cancellation of the sixty two point four million dollars in grant money to install solar energy systems for low and moderate income households, you know You don't just you shouldn't just have to be rich to get solar energy and there was a there was a program signed into law by through the 2022 inflation reduction act by the Congressional Democrats as well as then

Joe Biden, and this, by the way, is coming from the Wisconsin Examiner, Eric Gunn, with the byline talking about the cancellation of this program, which would do away with the ability for a moderate and low income families to have access to solar power, which would also help to lower their energy bills, which we've been talking about for societies decades.

That grant money is to be canceled, which will make it

Very difficult for those folks including myself as a homeowner I want to start looking at possibly getting some solar panels on my house in the next few years and I was looking to programs that helped fund it grant programs because there are a lot out there if you go to rewire America you can find out actually where you qualify for grants for energy efficiency installation whether it's you know solar panels wind whatever but yeah rewiring America is a place to go but without this funding

It's going to make it more difficult.

And Tony Ebers has written a letter to the president to say, stop doing this.

We need to harness solar power.

We need to lower our energy costs.

And when you cancel these grants, you make it more difficult, and we don't understand why you're doing that.

But so I just want to say thank you to Tony Ebers for standing up for Wisconsin and helping us to try to find that good lower energy cost.

We're going to take a small, small, small break.

We're going to get some water.

We're going to get some snacks.

We're going to come back and we have Civic Media's news editor, Charlie Pittman, to talk about all the things we may have missed in the news.

Don't go anywhere.

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We got Calvin Butenhoff on the boards as always, AKA Dr. Slide, AKA sweet Calby.

He's here pushing the buttons.

And as always, it's Monday, it's 9 35, which means it's time for Civic Media's news director, Shaly Pittman to this.

Welcome, Shaly.

Welcome to the show.

Welcome back.

Thank you.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning.

We're happy to have you here and I Save to say there's one big news story coming out of southeastern, Wisconsin that we we missed over the weekend and we were talking about a little bit earlier Shocking images coming out of Milwaukee County talking about the floods

Yeah,

so

The National Weather Service has issued a flood warning that's still in effect this morning.

You know, I'm based here in Madison, so I'm not in Milwaukee, but like you, I've been watching the images come in over, you know, the weekend.

So there was an incredible amount of rain that fell in a short amount of time.

Data from the Milwaukee Metro Sewerage District shows about four to 14 inches.

fell from Saturday to Sunday in places around Milwaukee County.

So that's an incredible amount of rain and yeah folks are digging out from it.

WeEnergies, according to their outage map, I just checked before I joined and it says about 4,541 customers, mostly in Milwaukee and Waukesha are still without power.

So that's where we are.

And you said that flood warning is still in effect as of right now?

As of right now until 10 a.m.

Okay, all right.

I'm not sure how much is going to happen in the next 20 minutes, but they do that for a reason, and I'm not a meteorologist.

So there we go.

Well, and as I mentioned earlier as well, the Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewer District is urging residents to continue to cut their water use to minimize the amount of untreated water.

coming up through the waterways in Lake Michigan.

Are there any other places people are being directed to go to find out more information?

I know we have WeEnergies, Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewer District, but just want to make sure people stay up to speed on what's going on so they know what they can do in these moments as we're seeing just, I mean, for me personally, as I said, never seen this before.

Shocking images coming out from people taking video and pictures of the flooding.

It's not just, it's not, oh, it's ankle high.

This is floating cars

away.

Well, you can report flooding or things like downed trees, stranded vehicles to the city by calling this number 414-286-CITY, C-I-T-U-I, so 414-286-CITY.

You can also, I haven't seen this mentioned much online, you can also, let me find it, drop off,

As you're cleaning out drop off things this is according to the Milwaukee Department of Public Works The city has drop off centers and those are free of charge through next Sunday So they're open today even though they're usually closed on Mondays the hours are 7 a.m.

To 3 p.m.

And those drop off sites are at 38 79 West Lincoln Ave and 6

6-6-6-0 North Industrial Road.

So again, 3-8-7-9 West Lincoln Ave and 6-6-6-0 North Industrial Road, those are the drop-off centers that are free of charge.

The city says, the Department of Public Works says, for you to drop off stuff that might have gotten ruined.

Okay.

All right.

Well, thank you for that information.

We appreciate it.

And we'll get that information to the show notes as well.

And we, as we, as I mentioned before, we wish no one but the safest and happiest.

And if you're going through it, we hope you're going through it safely.

And if you need any help, please reach out to anyone who can help.

We really don't want anyone to be hurt by this, but

Also, in the running of a two hour show, a five day week two hour show, things are done and things are said and things are asked.

And I'm like, yeah, totally let's do this.

And I totally forget.

You asked me before earlier, if you could say a little something about the libraries, because earlier we were talking about possible funding cuts to the Wisconsin library system due to the big bill for billionaires.

And Charlotte, you wanted to take a moment to talk about the libraries.

Yeah, from flooding to reading, what a transition.

Thank you.

WBA, are you watching right now?

That's how I do it here.

Well, you know, you're talking to someone who has worked in libraries and my mom was a librarian.

So, you know, I have a profound sense of admiration and awe for libraries.

I essentially grew up in a library for a good

chapter of my youth.

So I heard you mention Libby.

I love Libby and the app.

If you haven't used it before, I strongly recommend you try it out.

It's great for e-books and e-audio books.

I do want to clarify that the cuts that are being proposed would not cut Libby because those are now secured at the state level.

But the

concept of Libby, how Libby came to be as sort of an experimental program first, that's what will be slashed under these cuts.

So I don't know about you, but during

Nowadays, I'm finding myself learning a lot about different kind of agencies that I had never heard of before.

So as a radio insider, I knew about the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, but maybe this is folks first time learning about it because it got slashed.

But the IMLS, the Institute for Museum and Library Science, is another one of those agencies that doesn't get a lot of attention until it's on the chopping block.

So the IMLS program funds sort of new

sometimes experimental programs for libraries to use.

So Libby grew out of that.

They got funding to try it out and now it's an established tool that you use.

The IMLS also funds the statewide interlibrary loan program.

So this is how rural libraries are most likely to be affected is because this is what makes your interlibrary loan possible.

Have you guys ever done an interlibrary loan?

I have, yes.

And

we heard about people, people last week were talking about it as well.

Right this is what allows you to get but you know if you're in a small library and I grew up in a sort of rural library this is what allows you to get books from bigger institutions and sometimes that might take a little bit and I think I've only ever had like two requests not be able to be filled because I was asking for some really detailed

out there stuff.

But eventually it comes.

And so this is how rural libraries are affected.

But the IMLS also gives out specific grant funding to different institutions.

And keep in mind, it's for library science and for museums.

So last year, the IMLS distributed a good chunk of money to a good number of kind of programs in Wisconsin.

So the Ho trunk got 142,000.

The Oneida Nation got $86,000.

I have other numbers here.

The Wisconsin Historical Society got $177,000.

The Dora County Historical Society got $20,000.

But also the, more locally, we're in my neck of the woods, the Wisconsin Children's Museum.

There are the Madison Children's Museum here.

in Madison got a quarter of a million dollars last year to fund funds and programs.

They had made some staffing cuts recently.

I know someone who got laid off from the Madison Children's Museum.

So that's just, you know, from prior reporting and on this program, that's

little window into the the IMLS.

They also made possible the the bubbler program in Madison.

They gave the the seed money that incubated what is now the bubbler program which highlights artists.

They have an artist in residence every month and so on.

If you're just joining us, we are talking with Shawley Pittman, who is Civic Media's news director about the stories we may have missed.

And I'm getting, and thank you for the correction on that.

On the Libby app, I read it as Libby was possibly under a funding cut, but you know, and I saw a comment come in the live stream from Jenny says, I support and look to libraries as a steward of history.

Learning and free thinking the rare book the rare books room at the MPL central in downtown Milwaukee and free events to learn new professional skills via workshops And here's what really kicks me in the teeth and makes me feel like Sick about it and it's something you just mentioned too.

Also local libraries are often the only source of free internet and computer services that many communities especially

Rural runs world ones have access to and that's something that we seem to always come back to is these cuts that are coming from the federal government are going to Help are gonna hurt the rural areas a lot.

You know, we're talking about hospital closures talk about libraries So it's that's something to always keep in mind.

So I appreciate you

bringing that to light, especially your experience about growing up in libraries.

Essentially, that's very, very wonderful.

And thank you for the information on that as well.

Once again, if this is something that's important to you, go to myvote.wi.gov and talk to your representatives because they're the ones who need to hear from you to let you know, to let them know what you're thinking about these topics.

Now, Governor Evers has a mighty pen he is using.

Can you tell us about the bills that he is both signing and vetoing?

Yeah, so this is what I was planning to talk with you about before this weekend happened.

That's what we should call this

segment.

The weekend that happened.

That happened last Friday in something that was pretty planned.

Governor Anthony Stephen Evers.

Not a great name.

It is signed 16 bills and vetoed five.

So I wanted to highlight some of those, but it looks like we're almost out of time.

We can start a few and

we'll come back to and cover some more.

So feel free to get started.

All right.

Well, the number one bill that I want to highlight, there are some bills that I, it seemed largely technical and I don't, we didn't spend a good amount of time reporting on them.

So I'm not quite sure, but here's a big one.

The pelvic exam, a consent for pelvic exams bill is finally law after a lot of pushing for a lot of years.

So this requires hospitals to get written consent from a patient before performing a pelvic examination.

their unconscious.

The backstory to this is that there's a Madison resident who had surgery in 2009.

And that was traumatic.

And she says that there was a pelvic examination performed on her.

And without going into detail, she could tell, right?

So she reached out to her representative, her state representative, who at the time was Madison's Chris Taylor.

And Chris Taylor started pushing for it, right?

And then it took another, I don't know, five years to get it passed and signed into law like on Friday.

But this saw a lot of support from organizations including End Domestic Abuse Wisconsin, the League of Women Voters, RAIN, the Wisconsin Nurses Association, the Wisconsin Catholic Conference, who...

endorse the bill lobbied for the bill But yeah, that's that's where we are.

Okay.

All right, we're gonna we're gonna cover a few more when we come back with like I said It's almost almost time to go grab some water and some snacks.

It's important to stay hydrated Charlie I don't know if you know this Jack from Merrimack.

I see you on the line.

I'm gonna take you at the other side

And if you can stick by, it's a great way to only hear from you about, as well as we're talking, we're hearing from people all morning about libraries.

Apparently this is something people feel passionate about, which is important.

And I'm glad you're reaching out to us.

So don't go anywhere.

We're going to come right back with Shaly Pittman, the news director for Civic Media talking more about Governor Evers, Mighty Pen, and what he's signing, what he's vetoing.

And hear from you, I guess, more about libraries.

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Good, good morning.

Welcome back to Matt and air on air.

My name is Greg Bach.

I am sitting here with a shawley, shawley Pittman, the civic media's news director.

She is here talking about all the news we may have missed over the weekend and she has got a, if you're watching the live stream, it's a very interesting image.

I'm not going to lie.

And now it makes sense.

I thought she was making a funny comment about something I said in our comments or our chat, but there apparently is someone shawley with a chainsaw outside.

They're yes, they are doing some kind of tree maintenance.

So I'm joining you from under my blanket, which is how I record and Hopefully you can't hear it

live from shawley pitman's fort She has made a fort for everyone to

This is, this is a reason why you need to watch the live stream folks.

You can hear us.

Uh, you can, you can watch us on Facebook, on YouTube and the place we still call Twitter.

Cause in this house, we call it Twitter.

And yeah, you can watch the live stream here every day.

And, and, uh, you're listening to Matt Nair on air on the civic media radio network, catching up with Charlie Pittman and, um,

One of the things we were talking about was Governor Evers' pen signing and vetoing.

Is there any other bill you want to just go over real quick before we move on to?

Apparently a problem, a Madison we didn't know about until right now.

But yeah, is there anything else that you've, that is making the news as far as what he is signing and or vetoing?

Yeah, from under the blanket here, there are a couple other bills.

And I'm so sorry to the folks on the live stream.

I cannot hear it all by the way I cannot hear us and nothing is that is the most soundproof fort I've ever witnessed

So I crocheted this and I went through so many skeens of yarn

Yeah,

so it's really dense.

Okay

means it dead and things very well But apologies to folks out there

But the chainsaw is intermittent, so let's give it some chance to work.

Okay, bills.

Another bill that Governor Evers signed is one that clarifies that folks on campgrounds who are not welcome are not...

are not tenants of the campground.

Basically, it clarifies that guests on campgrounds are not tenants and are not subject to state landlord tenant laws.

This is a fix to a problem I didn't know Wisconsin had.

That apparently there are folks who stay on campgrounds overstay and law enforcement is not able to remove them because Or at least in some cases Because they said it was a civil matter and it needed to go to court because it was a landlord-tenant issue So again, this is not something I knew was happening.

I read

testimony from some of these industry groups, the Wisconsin Association of Campground Owners, the Wisconsin Recreational Vehicle Dealers Alliance, and so on who supported the bill.

And they said this was a very good bill and it clarifies to law enforcement that they are unable to remove unwelcome guests.

I'd like to hear from someone who has stayed on a campground and gone through this.

I'm not exactly sure

um, what's, what's going on.

But, um, but yeah, that's the, the campground bill.

We had talked about this, I think last year on the show, and I was very shocked that someone would invoke the squatters, right?

Essentially of saying like, oh, I'm here.

I get to be here now.

I just, I'm, but now it is in law.

So now those who run camp, campgrounds are protected from that.

And, uh, finally, Charlie, before you get going, apparently there are problems with manhole covers in Madison.

Oh, yeah, okay.

So I'll also just add to the bills.

Governor Evers, the most significant in my eyes that he vetoed is the DoorDash bill that would have reclassified app-based drivers.

So Uber, Lyft, DoorDash

as

independent contractors.

Under the bill, they could have gotten retirement accounts, health insurance, and occupational accident insurance, but they would have been excluded from unemployment insurance, workers' compensation, and minimum wage laws.

So he vetoed it.

He didn't say he objected to portable benefits.

He did say he objected to redefining those workers as independent contractors.

And we saw a huge marketing push from DoorDash and other app-based delivery services in seeking to get that passed.

Okay.

In Madison, our manhole covers blew off yesterday, at least one.

it might be multiple.

Yesterday afternoon, while flooding in Milwaukee was happening in Madison, we had our own kind of mini crisis where there was a blow manhole cover and I saw the video of black smoke coming from underground.

It appeared to be an electrical fire underground and downtown Madison, including right near the WMDX Studios, was shut down for a couple hours.

It was just kind of wild.

I

could smell the electrical, you know, something electrical going on.

And a significant thoroughfare West Wash was shut down for a while.

All right.

Well, we always love having you around, Charlie, to talk to us about what's going on.

We appreciate you being our center of information in the greatest of...

knitted forts.

I just, I just love this.

I really love this image.

It's just, thank you very much.

Well, okay.

I have been corrected.

I've been, I, I'm a man who can take new information and a crocheted fort by civic media's news director, Shaly Pittman.

Thank you so much for joining us today.

Jack from Merrimack.

I do see you on the line.

beg your patience for one more break and I will take you on the other side when we come back in the second hour, but we're going to take a slight, slight pause.

We're going to get snacks.

We're going to hear from the news and

When we come back, we're going to talk about Donald Trump went golfing and decided to turn DC into his own little private resort.

Apparently getting rid of people he doesn't like, but we're going to talk more about that as well as a guy who we barely knew is no longer in charge of the IRS.

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We've been hearing from you all morning about the library.

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I just want to remind people,

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Enjoy some baseball We were talking earlier about the libraries and cuts to funding from in Wisconsin through the big

beautiful blob of a bill for billionaires.

And Jack from Merrimack has been super duper patient.

He's been on the line for a while and he wanted to talk about library funding cuts.

Jack, what do you say about this?

Well, first of all, let me just say that you're doing a great job today.

And I always enjoy the interaction between you and Jane when you're on.

Keep doing what you're doing.

Thank you, Jack.

I appreciate you.

It's good to hear from you again, buddy.

I haven't said that.

I wanted to mention that it didn't seem entirely clear in the last segment that Libby is not just an interlibrary program.

It is an app that you can get.

It's a great app.

I've got it on my tablet and you can download

from whatever your library system is, you can download electronic books.

I probably, since the inception of Libby, I've probably downloaded somewhere in the hundreds, if not over a thousand books that I've read.

The app is great because it allows you to adjust the size of the font.

So if you're an old guy like I am, and you don't want to have to

squint a lot with small print.

You can adjust the font up.

You can adjust the background so that you can get a sepia tone.

You can get a black on white, which is like you have on an ordinary book, but you can also get white on black.

And when I'm reading late in the evening, so my brain doesn't get overstimulated, I usually

read with the reader on white on black.

Yes.

It's just an absolutely great app.

Very useful

for a

lot of things.

And like I say, you can get you can get thousands of books on there.

Yeah.

And thank you for that, Jack.

We appreciate you reaching out.

Yeah, to be clear, that's two things I want to make clear.

One, yes, Libby is an app.

I have it on my phone.

I use it for audio books specifically.

It is an app that's great for your phone, great for your

for your tablet or your device.

And also, as Shali pointed out, the Libby app is not going anywhere.

It was used as an example for the experimentation that we can, the incubation of ideas that can come from the funding to our libraries.

When that funding goes away, those ideas might have to be put on the shelf or put on the back burner because they just don't have the money for it.

And so if you like those things, I always

Always encourage you on this show in, you know, no matter how dark it seems to get with the news, no matter how much it seems like we're not in control, you do have a voice.

You always have a voice and that voice is at myvote.wi.gov.

Look up who represents you, call them up, call up your congressman, call up your senators, call up your state reps too, and tell them that these things are important to you because they need to hear from you.

If they don't hear from you, they might not know the job they're doing.

So you want to tell them that you love your libraries, then you get out there.

And you find out who your reps are, find out those phone numbers and call them and find out more.

Another comment on the live stream I wanted to share with was Dylan.

Dylan Helmenstein, or Stein, my apologies if I've not pronounced that correctly.

He says, I'm 26.

I'm a village board trustee.

I looked it up.

He is a village board trustee in Black Earth, Wisconsin, a little west of Madison, and was on the library board.

The library is critical for our community, but we also need to bring it into the 21st century so it can serve

more of our residents.

I don't disagree with that at all.

We need to make sure that the library is always updated with technology.

And as Shali also brought up in the last hour, when we make these cuts, when things get cut, it cuts off access and that access a lot of times affects the rural parts of the state.

And those folks should not be cut off from access to books, to programs, to learning.

hospitals, you name it, the internet.

I mean, it just seems like when these cuts are happening, those folks out in the rural areas are getting the brunt of it.

We want to make sure that they have as much access as individuals in the city.

So again, thank you so much everyone for reaching out and telling us about how much the library means to you and what it means to your family and how you access it, how you utilize it and what it does for your learning and just your everyday thing.

And it's important for us to know that.

Now, as I'm talking right now, Calvin, I am watching, well, actually I'm watching Jenine Pirro, who is the U S attorney for the district of Columbia, former Fox news talking person standing next to another Fox news talking person, Pete Hecht, Seth, talking about the quote national takeover of Washington DC.

If you have not seen over the weekend, the president of the United States ordered

police federal agents all over DC on Sunday night promise a swift crackdown on crime and homelessness in the nation's capital.

This is coming from NPR.

Brian Mann has the byline that was on morning edition today.

And if you don't already know, they've just kind of invaded DC.

It's in a

an attempt to crack down on crime.

It's an, to crack down on the homeless population.

And from what I've seen in the reports, this all came about because he was driving through DC to his golf course in Virginia.

And really right now, as it stands, if you watch, if you're watching cable news right now, the president is on, is at the podium giving a press conference talking about

how much further they're going to go with this.

And FBI Director Cash Patel has said that, or actually, I'm sorry, I apologize.

President Trump has said that this is not just going to stop at DC.

And this sort of thing, I don't know, for me, Calvin, I can't speak to your experience, but this sort of thing is not something that makes a lot of sense in a logical person's brain.

I understand why they might be doing it.

We have seen the

the lightning rod topic of crime be used to divide us as a nation you know it's easy for people to say people easy for people in power to say crime is at all time high crime is just terrible we can't we can't stop it we gotta do something about it and apparently the president's solution is to just send out

federal office, including FBI agents, which correct me if I'm wrong.

This isn't exactly their job.

I know that the FBI are like a national police department, essentially, they they invest, I'm sorry, investigate crimes on a national level, things that go into the FBI jurisdiction.

But I don't think their job is to walk the city streets and to rid the city of crime and to arrest people for whatever infractions they may seem is the case.

But

We Talk about this a lot on our show and I've heard other people in Sydney to discuss this and I want to go back to the whole lightning rod of a of a situation as far as using crime statistics to justify actions to justify positions on policy regarding how we Quote-unquote crackdown on on the problem of crime and and this is from the NPR article

from Mr. Mann.

Washington DC has seen a declining crime rate in recent years with the violent crime hitting a 30 year low in 2024.

That comes from the Justice Department.

I'm sure that some people will say that is fake news, but the Justice Department, I trust their crime statistics.

And it seems as if this sort of action is unwarranted, unnecessary and a bit odd, not out of pocket or

off brand for what they've been talking about for that, at least the past year, but they're sweeping the city to, it says the Drug Enforcement Administration, other agencies are seeing stroll in the street in small groups, at least 125, 120 FBI agents were reassigned from their other duties to take part in Sundays.

Patrol.

This is the one that gets me a lot.

At one intersection, a minor traffic accident between a car and a moped brought at least two dozen agents running, some wearing masks, one carrying a rifle.

I can't imagine that this helps with the police.

So if you are a police officer in DC and something like this happens, you need to make sure everyone stays calm.

You need to make sure everything goes by the book.

You need to cordon off the area, make sure everyone is safe, keep others away.

And when you have all these individuals coming running at you, some wearing masks and wearing and holding weapons, I have to imagine that introduces a bit of uncertainty on top of the fact that they seem to be out of nowhere, just walking the streets like.

weird warrior vigilantes to protect the streets from this amorphous thing called crime that is not as much of a problem as we are led to believe in Washington DC.

I don't seem to understand why this is happening from a logical standpoint.

I understand why it's happening from their standpoint.

They want to instill fear.

They want to look powerful.

Right now, if you are watching the press conference, it is a whole host of individuals who are going to tell you how terrible it is out there, when in fact, it is not, and they will not listen to that.

the FBI Director, Cash Mattel was talking about that, and President Trump himself has said that this will go further than DC.

And Oli, I see you on the line, and I'm gonna take your call on the other side of the break of the commercials, and we are going to talk more about this, including this declaration of ridding DC of the homeless population, and literally how this came out of what being reported as

his ride to the golf course in Virginia, seeing the streets and deciding to do this.

And this all took place last night in DC.

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We are talking currently about the president who decided last night that it would be a good time to, quote, clean up the streets of DC has deployed multiple federal agencies, including the FBI and the DEA to the streets to, I guess, I don't know, clean it up, even though there isn't really a problem to clean up at this moment.

I should say there isn't a problem that requires this much force to clean up.

Uh, in a BBC article that was published earlier today, max max matzah is got the byline.

The quote, the, the mayor Muriel Bowser of DC said, quote, we are not experiencing a crime spike.

That did not stop the president from doing what he's doing right now.

He's currently at the podium and.

I'm judging by all the laughter on CNN.

He's doing his five minutes from the Catskills that apparently kills because they're all laughing.

I don't understand why they're laughing at anything right now.

This isn't funny.

But he wrote on truth social.

He said, the homeless will be moved out immediately.

All caps Trump also wrote on his site.

We will give you places to stay, but far from the Capitol, the criminals, you don't have to move out.

They all are in Congress.

We going to put you in jail where you belong.

So.

And he's also said in this press conference that quote would go further than just DC as far as taking over cities to take care of the quote crime plot problem as as I stated before is not as great as an existence as they are letting to believe it's Violent crime in DC is down and something like this the measures they are taking is seems a little out of place and scary and Where does it end that's a question I have Ali from the Northwoods is on the

The line right now calling in Ali.

Thank you so much for being here.

What are your thoughts on the matter?

Oh my gosh, I'll probably get lots of hate mail, but I'm just going to say this is a terrible, terrible thing.

And this is the beginning of a police state.

And do we want to live like Russia and Germany?

And I've been to those places and

That wasn't a good thing then and it isn't a good thing now and that's what's happening to our country and people need to speak up Get on the phone with their their Governments people and tell them this is just plain wrong.

Yeah, he's he's doing this in DC because he can yeah

But he's going to try it all over.

He didn't get away with it in California.

So now he's going to start where he knows he can get away with it and work from there.

Yeah.

Thank you so much for calling Ali.

I appreciate you always being here and always lending your voice because, you know, you're not wrong.

This seems like, this seems like a tactic that has been waiting in the, in the wings.

It's been on people's minds.

They've been wanting to do this and they are.

And if you don't like it, go to my vote.wi.gov, find out your representative's names, find out their phone number, call them and tell them that this is not, does not sit okay with you.

And if you, if you are a supporter, then tell me how I'm wrong.

Tell me how non-crime statistics that do not exist justify the utilization of force to

sweep the streets in a way that I have to imagine, Calvin, I don't know about you, but undermines the actual police of DC.

To just go out in the streets and showing force like this does not help them trying to keep everything, you know, trying to protect and serve essentially.

This doesn't seem like it helps.

Calvin, any thoughts you have?

I'm happy to hear them.

Well, I don't think I have any unique thoughts about this.

It's...

go back and forth between this is a danger and I guess it can be both it's a dangerous move towards a police state like Ali mentioned

but it's

also just a distraction like PJ on the live stream said he's talking specifically about the Epstein files but

it's

the Epstein files it's the big brutal bill it's any number of things that he wants to distract his supporters from yeah yeah so it's both

a dangerous power grab and it's also just a distraction for the really

the things that are actually impacting people's lives.

And I would say that, yeah, I don't just agree with that.

I would say the level of distraction, the degree of the distraction is getting greater and greater.

Before it was just, hey, look at this thing this person's doing over here, and it's terrible, and you know, not American.

Now they're just invading the street saying, we need to take care of this.

Gene from Eau Claire, we got only about a minute and some change left.

What do you say about this?

You have the last word, this

segment.

The biggest criminal that needs to be put behind bars is sitting

in the White House in my opinion and also those people that are aiding in a bet in this type of behavior going into the cities scaring people and also you know the mask criminals that are going after immigrants I think that

They need to get back to work because they're aiding and betting all this horrifying behavior.

It's ridiculous.

And they all need to be fired that have an hour after their name because they are aiding and betting.

And they're letting this happen.

Have a good day.

Thank you.

Thank you, Gene.

Love hearing from you.

Love your input.

Appreciate you listening as always.

When we come back, folks, we are going to take a moment.

We're going to take a breath.

There's a lot happening right now, but it's important to take

even a little break and we're going to come back with some audio sorbet.

What's the one thing you finally got done this summer or what's the one thing you just still need to do before we start moving towards the cooler months.

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This is an update.

He's still on the podium right now, Calvin.

He's still talking.

And now he's talking about Russia.

And he has said they don't know where they're going to.

And by the way, this is in reference to over the weekend, last night in DC, Donald Trump ordered some, uh, ordered some federal agencies to quote, sweep up, clean up the streets.

of the crime problem, even though there's not as much of a crime problem that requires that.

And now he's talking about where they're going to be going as far as where they're going to take the homeless people he wants to get rid of.

And he doesn't know where, but they're going to quote, go far away.

So that is comforting to you.

He's still on the television if you want to watch that, but he is now talking about Russia and Putin.

So we're going to let go of all that though, Calvin, because it's 1035 time around that time.

And we have to take a moment, take a breath.

And we're gonna have a little audio sorbet It's the part of the show we just you know enjoy ourselves close our eyes and Breathe breathe in breathe out because that's what you must do the news is heavy and it's time to take a little break And that's what we do during audio sorbet and today I want to just talk about I want to know from you the audience from the listeners from the watchers on the live stream

What is that one project that you finally got done this summer?

That one thing is it planting a little garden?

Is it you know cleaning out the garage?

Is it fixing the car up?

What is the thing you got done that you're patting yourself on the back or what is that thing you still need to do?

You still need to accomplish before those cooler months roll in you can call us or text us 855-75 Civic 855-7524842 leave a comment on the live stream.

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So we want to hear from you.

The things that you got done over this, the thing, that project that you got done over the summer that you're really excited about patting yourself on the shoulder and saying, Hey, I got something accomplished.

I'm feeling very, very good.

Andrew from Maine said summer to do list.

Let's see here.

Make pieces of scones.

or maybe scones of peace, one or the other.

That is in reference of course to the days when Jane would go to the farmer's market in Waukesha and have, want to have conversations with those who really, you know, we can't have like big long conversations on the show.

So if you wanted to have longer conversations in real life, she would buy you scones of peace.

I always ate the leftovers and we appreciate hearing from you in Madison Mira on the live stream.

My dear friend Mira, something very, very big.

She got married.

Congratulations.

I wish I could have been there.

Unfortunately, I was in butternut, but very, very excited for you.

Very, very excited for that.

Glad to see you were able to get that project.

That is a very, very big project.

And we say thank you to you and congratulations to you and my friend, Ryan.

So I had one big project that only took me Calvin three years to do.

It took three full years and, and, and I know what you're thinking right now.

You're thinking, well, what does that involve?

Like a lot of, you know, backbreaking labor to that.

And, uh, involve like, you know, a crew of people to come in and help.

Nope.

Just involved me not watching Ted Lasso for a ninth time through.

I've talked about it before, but I had, we had a play set in the backyard of our house.

I thought it was a very cool.

addition to when we bought it.

And then I walked up to it and I touched it and realized that no child can come anywhere near this because it was basically about to fall over.

So I told myself for a long time, yeah, I'm gonna just, you know, chop it down, break it up, throw it out.

And we moved in 2022.

In fact, this three years ago this month, we moved into the house.

And for the next two years and nine months, I was saying, yeah, I'm gonna do that.

And

My wife being the everly patient person she is very much said Very much said yeah, okay, and then finally I just saw in her eyes.

You're like you're never gonna do this You're never gonna do this.

So finally one day I did and it is now gone.

I'm very proud of myself.

I'm very happy to myself and Very very happy about that if you have a project that you've taken care of something that you got done Please give us a call 855 75 civic 855

7 5 2 4 8 4 2 or leave a comment on the live stream You can always text us love to hear from you Calvin is there anything I need a project that you wanted to take care of this summer anything you wanted I mean it doesn't even have to be it doesn't even have to be like a house project like you said you've started reading comic books Are there are there ones you wanted to knock out and get took care of?

What's the thing this summer that you got to to accomplish?

To be completely honest with you Greg.

I've kind of had a very unproductive summer.

I've wasted a lot of time

Playing video well now.

I just feel like

I

called you out.

I'm sorry Okay, I have to own up to it.

Maybe that will motivate me.

Okay.

Well, I mean but I still the thing is Calvin I opened up the conversation to is there something you still want to get done though and I'm here to I'm not here to Chastise or judge you I'm here to say How do I help you buddy accomplish your best life?

Well, I will say one project and this is not that it doesn't even have to be summer when I do this, but I have not painted my miniature Game pieces in a very long time.

I have them built and assembled.

They're collecting dust on my desk.

All right I have to break the paints out and get down to business Luckily, I am going on a vacation this week.

Hopefully I will have some time to have do

some painting okay relaxing

may I ask what you're doing on your vacation if not if you're just gonna paint and relax that's fine I don't want to like you know I don't want to pry any we're friends but I'm not owed all the information on Calvin's life

yeah I mean so a little window in I'm the oldest of three kids

My youngest sibling is my sister.

She is turning 21 on Friday.

Whoa So the whole family we are taking a little weekend trip to Las Vegas

Wow.

Oh my good.

Are you so are you a gambler?

Our my family does like to gamble a little bit.

Are you are

you?

Let me let me let me qualify that are you like

Pull tabs at the bar type gamblers or are you sunglasses earbuds in don't look at me hoodie over my head?

I'm playing poker.

Don't even dare try to read my eyes

Well, so we obviously my sister's not 21, so I've never gambled with her.

Okay, sure wink

wink.

I know

We enjoy slots and we enjoy Blackjack, okay, if I'm being completely honest, hopefully he's not listening listening my dad gets a little

Annoying yeah, he likes to yell and tap the screen and be one of those

But yeah,

so it's it's a good time.

I'm looking forward to it.

We Hopefully are not gonna be gambling the whole time.

We're gonna try to see a show great um I think we might do like an escape room or just an activity.

That's not

gambling one of

the

days, but we're only there.

We're flying in Thursday night and we're coming home Sunday morning.

So we're not there for that.

Hey, that's enough time.

In my opinion, I've been to Vegas a few times.

I feel like Vegas is a perfect three to four day place after that.

No, just that's good.

That's great.

Well, that's great.

That's great to hear.

So that's

I would say that you're accomplishing a vacation.

We are not good at vacationing.

We like to be at work.

We like to get things done.

And now you're taking a vacation.

That's wonderful.

So I'm very excited for you.

Troy from Mount Horab is on the line.

Troy, it's audio sorbet.

What is the thing that you either got done this summer or the thing you still need to do before the summer is done?

I shoveled four and a half ton of rock.

Good Lord.

When you said that, everything in my shoulders down to my toes is like, ow.

My nephew helped me one day put put a bunch under my deck.

Yeah, and then we found other places to put it.

Okay.

Um, but yeah, but I did.

Most of it.

Okay.

His joy was this

at 58.

Oh, don't be white guy.

I'm pretty proud of

that.

Try really quick.

Is this something you've been wanting to do for a while, for summers, for a few years, or is it like this summer you said, no, we're gonna do this now, got this project, gonna execute.

I don't care.

Call my nephew.

If he wants to help Gray, if not, I'm getting it finished.

My wife said we gotta do this.

Okay, so it was from orders on high.

I understand that completely.

Yeah, it was from above my pay grade.

Well, that, I mean, if anything, you know, if you can just, if, if you're, if you're feeling the need to like take a break and sit down and someone says, what are you doing right now?

Ah, my shoulder from shoveling all that rock.

Thank you.

Oh

good Lord.

Okay.

You're braver than I am, sir.

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Jack from Merrimack, you're back.

What's up, buddy?

We only got like one minute.

What's going

on?

of the

Jack, thank you so much for sharing that.

I'll share, and I'll share another project before we head to grab some water and snacks because it's important to stay hydrated.

Still have that guitar in my guitar, in my garage that I only need to build and create from, you know, you do a bunch of stuff, but that will be maybe the fall project.

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So, uh, Calvin, it is 1054.

I think it is time for one thing and one thing only and I never show.

And that is this shouldn't be a thing.

If you ever have a thing that should not be, you can send it in to Jane and me.

Very simple.

Go to Jane says at civicmedia.us, J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S at civicmedia.us.

This is the segment we call, this shouldn't be a thing, how we wrap up every single show because we want you to go away with sometimes laughing, sometimes scratching your temple, sometimes going, really?

And I feel like

This next one achieves all three.

And I had to, and this was provided to us by Luke Mathers, who is a great source of information here at civic media.

And I, but I, I will admit, I had to look at this one out, Calvin, to make sure that was true and not just a weird rumor.

This is from qsrmagazine.com.

No one, strangely enough, Calvin, no one.

claims the byline.

No one wants to submit this to Pulitzer because apparently the Heinz tomato ketchup smoothie is the first ever ketchup based smoothie which blends the real fruits with Heinz simply tomato ketchup.

It creates a flavor that is delicious and refreshing in a summer sip.

Um, yeah, I had, like I said, like a good

Like a good person on the radio who wants to report the accurate information.

I looked up like three places to make sure this is wasn't a hoax.