Dean Cain: Man Of Steal (Hour 1)

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Dean Cain: Man Of Steal (Hour 1)

Matenaer on Air · Thu Aug 7, 2025

Jane Matenaer

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Busy show today.

It's

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Thursday.

Oh, yeah.

Jane Matenaer

We have a lot to guess lined up for you.

Our friend and colleague and host of amicus the law review, Jim Santel is going to join us after the 9 30 news.

Donald Trump says it's completely regular that a convicted sex offender gets moved to club fed.

Essentially.

Yeah.

Minimum security prison.

It's all good.

Nothing to see here.

Does that really happen?

with a lot of convicted sex offenders that they get sent to minimum security prisons.

Jim Santel, who used to be a U.S.

attorney and is still an acting attorney, he knows the law.

We're lawyer adjacent.

Jim will explain whether or not, of course, this just happens every day.

I'm thinking no.

Greg Bach

I truly have no idea.

I don't want to say anything.

I don't want to incriminate myself.

Also, I just don't want to look

Jane Matenaer

stupid.

Just take the fifth.

Exactly.

Next hour, a little weather and wine.

With Brittany Merleau, Civic Media's meteorologist.

We have very hot weather coming in.

We might get some rain, I guess, thunderstorms a little bit later on this afternoon.

And then I think it's gonna be a steamy, steamy weekend.

So Brittany will join us for that little update.

And then we're gonna talk about our boys.

Our boys.

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Oh, now everyone loves the Brewers.

Well, it's

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Fifth

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I know.

Isn't that amazing?

Yes.

didn't it really did not seem possible at the beginning of the season.

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We lost four.

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We

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lost to the Yankees like

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20 to three

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20.

Yes, those agonizing early days

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of the

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season, but what a turnaround for

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the

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brewers.

So Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Sports Guru J R Radcliffe will join us after 1030 to talk about the brewers and what is coming up.

And then we'll wrap up the show as we always do with this.

Shouldn't be a thing.

Today it is the, what a long, strange trip it's been getting trippy or two.

Yeah.

Stay tuned for that.

wanted to start off with a really good piece in the Wisconsin Examiner.

This is an opinion piece from Ruth Conniff, but we will include this in our show notes if you would like to read the article itself.

And essentially, she's talking about how things are working in Wisconsin or not working in Wisconsin when it comes to this $4 billion budget surplus that we're sitting on.

And our legislature never seems to want to do anything with that money except, except dole it out in textbooks.

Greg Bach

Correct.

Jane Matenaer

There's no investing into systems that might need bolstering.

Greg Bach

Yes, I mean, and it's 4.6 billion.

4.6 billion.

And I think that's important to say.

If it was 4.1, it's still, it's still, it is teetering between four and a half and $5 billion in surplus money that could be spent on education, on infrastructure.

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Invested.

Greg Bach

Investing in small business.

I mean,

conservation, water.

There is so much that can be done with this money.

Jane Matenaer

Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers, this from the article on the Wisconsin Examiner and State Lawmakers cut taxes by 1.3 billion in the new state budget.

So that's a quarter of this budget surplus.

This tax cut will go out to Wisconsinites who earn up to $200,000.

You're going to get a tax break worth about 180 bucks.

Which better than a rock

Greg Bach

to the back of the head.

It's better than a rock to the back of the head It's better than a poke with a stick But if you think about that 1.3 billion dollars everyone anyone if you qualify if it all works out you you get up to you get up to an average of 180 so I'm happy with giving I'm I feel lucky.

I'm able to give that up and say look take that money and pay for schools

Fix the roads do something with this, but don't give it back to me I mean that pays for some subscriptions on streaming that does something is that pays for maybe a month of groceries Or a two-person household maybe which

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we

Greg Bach

are yeah, but also it just this this

One of the things that I remember when I hear this story, and this is nothing new, by the way, that's the point for me personally.

This is nothing new.

Over a decade ago, we were sitting on a surplus.

Thank you, Governor Doyle.

And the Republicans decided to dole it out as a tax credit to homeowners that averaged between $13 to $75 to $100, depending on your house.

And once again,

Free money, it's not free money, but money is nothing to shake a stick at but I'll take it It's better invested into our state into our communities and then years later They did the same thing to parents where they said we're gonna give you money back parents and it came out about a hundred dollars

Jane Matenaer

Well, and that essentially is the point of this opinion piece in the Wisconsin examiner Yeah, there was a little that hundred and eighty bucks that $100

that's great but then we have to keep raising property taxes in order to invest in services like water and roads and schools so that 180 bucks or that 100 bucks

that you got back from the state in the form of tax cut is now going back to the state or your municipality in order to pay for services that you need.

Greg Bach

And in Kenosha this year, they voted down a property tax increase to fund schools.

It was like one of the few that didn't pass.

And when the people have to say, they're gonna say, no, well, that's bad for our schools, even though we have people who are like, I voted yes.

I don't have children.

I don't have children in school.

And you were still willing to pay more.

I was still willing to pay more because I know that our schools can benefit from that.

But people, if they have the choice and they say no, then that comes down and that the community has said no, then they're up a crick and they're not going to be able to fund certain things.

But meanwhile, there is a literal pile of money in Madison.

And they're going to say, let's chop a fourth of that off and give it back to the people.

overarching problem for me is that they don't care how much goes back to the people because that homeowners tax credit that came through was 13 to $75 per household.

If you owned a home, by the way, if you rented, you got nothing.

That doesn't matter to them.

What matters to them is they get to say, we gave you a tax break.

We got you a tax cut.

That's all we tax cut tax tax.

We love tax cuts Well, I only got 13 bucks, but I gave you a tax cut instead of taking Just taking that $13 and putting it back into our schools.

Well, and I know that I know that I know that now once reelected school Superincended Jill under Lee asked for $4 billion.

We talked about that extensively.

We knew that was never a lot of money But if they would have just committed to like 1.5

billion dollars over 10 years and say we're gonna take half of it from the surplus and and get the other half through various means of funding But for 10 years, we're gonna give you $1.5 billion and maybe that's not enough in That time frame.

I'm just using it as I'm picking a number That is a fantastic investment of surplus money that is doing nothing at this point We could have used surplus money to fund the brewers improvements that needed to happen

Governor Evers put forth the plan that came from the surplus.

Republicans said no.

Instead, they put together, I think, a $600 million package, which was three times more than Governor Evers' proposal.

That didn't come from the surplus either.

So why do we even have this money?

Just go Joker style.

Poor gasoline on it and set it on fire.

Jane Matenaer

We're talking about an article in the Wisconsin examiner.

If you're just joining us on mat and air on air, it's an opinion piece from Ruth Conniff and talking about again, this big budget surplus that we have here in Wisconsin, which the Republicans only ever seem to want to dole out in the form of tax cuts as opposed to investments in things like public schools and roads and water systems.

I think this is a really great.

paragraph in here.

The assumption that drives this tax-cutting mania at the state and national level is that we shouldn't have to spend money toward collective public goods.

We should all pay our own way, which is great if you can hire your own private security and send your kids to private schools and not have contact with the rest of society pretty much.

It is cheaper and better for all of us to support a decency a decent society for all of us

Greg Bach

That was our that was our belief.

I mean we've We've had that belief in in some way shape or form for since the inception of this country major major problems not withstanding because we don't have time but I'm thinking of I'm thinking of America post post World War two

We're out of World War two Economy is booming.

We want nothing more than to send our kids to school to work a good job Get a pension buy that house in the suburbs the we

We wanted to do what America told us to do.

For

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all

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of us.

For all of us, because if you do that thing, Jane, if you and your husband and your kids do that thing, well, then you're going to create and add to the economy and that will make us better together.

Our schools will be stronger.

Our businesses will grow bigger.

And then somewhere in the 70s and 80s, someone said, you know what I really love?

I love so much money and so much power.

Jane and her husband and her kids.

I don't care what happens to them and because of that you stop caring about your neighbors and they stop caring about their neighbors and now 70 years later we have this mentality of I'm not going to help you even if you were on fire and greed is good and greed

Jane Matenaer

really really embraced greed is good for the 80s greed isn't good jane greed is cool yeah wisconsin republicans were unwilling to spend four million dollars think about this this is

point zero zero four percent of the entire state budget four million dollars Republicans in Wisconsin would not spend four million to maintain veteran services to keep military vets from becoming homeless.

Greg Bach

To those those those people out there who don't like us and trust me I know you get on the live stream and you email us we know you don't like us.

I'm at the point now where I'm gonna start telling you you don't get to say you care about vets Because time and time again the Republican Party and and Democrats don't do much better.

Yes, but the Republican Party actively Denies vets their benefits their access they deny them the honor they deserve and they the services they

They have earned through their through fighting for our country or just serving for our country.

It is ridiculous.

It is offensive.

Anytime they vote against veterans needs or interests, I don't understand how they get to stand up with an American flag pin and go, we need to remember the troops.

Jane Matenaer

Well, but again, there's a lot of lip service on actually, I will say on both

Greg Bach

sides.

Jane Matenaer

Absolutely.

Not only for our veterans, but for law enforcement as well.

I think they use them when it's useful.

Greg Bach

But I think we can agree that Republicans.

at this point now use them more.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and I think if we go back to Mike Johnson and the House Republicans still refusing to put up this plaque honoring the Capitol Police officers who protected our lawmakers on January 6th, that is supposed to be up by law.

And Mike Johnson is refusing to do that

Greg Bach

because there are people in that party who say no one died that day.

Therefore, no one died because of it.

And that is there.

It is disgusting.

Just a regular tourist day.

Jane Matenaer

All right, on the way, are you looking for a job?

There's openings.

The only requirement, bring your own mask.

All the details coming up.

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Donald Trump said, it's complete.

It happens all the time that we take convicted sex offenders and move them to minimums.

prison so they can go golfing and stuff who doesn't do that.

Jim, we'll be here to explain just how regularly that happens, or perhaps not.

I did want to start off with this.

We've been hearing, of course, that ICE, the Anti-Immigration Terrorism Unit, is looking for, they're looking for people.

They're looking for jobs.

And of course, if you listen to Christy Nome, everything's great.

They have so many people applying.

There's no recruitment problems.

That really doesn't seem to be the truth.

Immigrations and custom enforcement on Tuesday announced in an internal email, they would offer cash bonuses to agents for deporting people quickly.

Will you give you a cash bonus?

If you can grab someone off the street,

and get them deported quickly, then you make extra money.

Oops, once the word got out about that, about four hours later, the agency canceled this 30-day pilot program.

An official in ISIS Field Operations Division says, please disregard the earlier email where we're going to offer you cash bonuses.

Greg Bach

Sorry, I'm not laughing.

I just I love that the email follow-ups.

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I Never mind that was a trap.

We take it back.

That was a trap get back Department of Homeland Security said yesterday.

It is now removing age limits for new hires at ice New applicants will no longer have to face these age limits.

So even more patriots will qualify

Currently, ICE applicants must be 21 and no older than 37 or 40, depending upon their position.

But Kristi Noem now says applicants can be as young as 18.

Quote, we no longer have a cap on how old you can be or you can continue at age 18.

Sign up for ICE and join us and be a part of it.

We'll get you trained and ready to be equipped to go out on the streets.

and helped protect families, unquote, from Christine Noem.

The departments that all recruits do have to go through medical and drug screening and complete a physical fitness test, Dean.

Well,

Greg Bach

I was gonna say I'm glad they got rid of the age restrictions because 59 year old Dean Cain is put out there Oh Dean Cain you forgot who he was he played Superman Kent on the adventures of Clark and Lois the TV show TV show, which was actually very good It was good and he came out saying that he is going joining ice to help do his part to serve and There's a couple things first of all Dude 59

He's 59 years old.

I'm sorry, but I don't think he's gonna I think he's doing more the guy standing behind the front lines going good job everybody go get him But also let's just look at it for a moment here He played Superman Who for better or for worse qualifies as an immigrant?

He is a literal alien to this country.

I know Superman's not real, but does any of this feel real anymore?

He played Superman did he also came out and said the new Superman is too woke because

They made mention that he is an immigrant.

Jane Matt Nair

Oh, gosh,

Greg Bach

they didn't make it part of the it wasn't the the overall point of the movie but also Dean Cain's father is Japanese and was interned.

Yep.

He was an internment camp He was put into a camp by this country in the Second World War because he just was Japanese and Dean Cain has said well while is a horrific thing Yes, it was

He doesn't want reparations.

No one was offering and That we need it's not the same essentially You are signing up for an organization that will take people and put them into cages around the country or outside this country Simply for being who they are and let us not forget that

While they say hundreds and thousands are being arrest criminals are being arrested They're finding more and more people who don't have criminal records who are being taken off the street grabbed off the streets grabbed out of out of immigration

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court by unmasked by masked people with no identification.

Yeah

How I just go back.

How is this legal?

It's not how is it legal that you can send armed gangs into our streets with masks on and they can just Pull up to people and grab them off the street.

I don't know if I saw that people Approaching me like that.

I'd assume they had bad intentions

Greg Bach

I don't think they care about the legal or illegality of it all.

They just do it because they know they can do it at this point.

And if they've messed up, Jane, it's someone else's problem.

They'll deal with it later.

My job is to simply pick the person up and make sure that they're gone.

If they're not given due process, if they're

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abused, that's not on me.

Greg Bach

I just find it wildly, wildly, I don't want to say offensive.

It's crazy that a guy who played Superman is joining ice to disappear people off the street,

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especially when you look at his family.

Greg Bach

Oh, yeah, what it just a hypocrite from start to

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finish.

Well, again, they got openings.

Greg Bach

Yeah, they're not

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having recruitment problems.

It's it's all fine.

It's all good.

Never.

It's all people just lining up to snatch people off the street while wearing masks

Greg Bach

and they might not be giving you a cash bonus up front.

But there are is this is

for real, they give bonuses after the fact too.

ISIS, ISIS like it.

ISIS like a Wall Street trading firm.

You can make big money.

We'll

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have all these articles in our show notes.

Check it out.

Coming up, how often do a convicted sex offenders get set to club fed?

Jim Santel will explain.

Stay with us right here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Jim Santel, our friend and colleague and host of Amicus.

a law review on Saturday mornings across the network from 9 to 11.

Good morning, sir.

How are you?

Jim Santel (guest)

Jane, Greg, good to be with you.

I see that neither one of you

This morning is in a Minimum Security Prison of the Bureau of Prisons.

Jane Matt and Air (host)

Not today!

Just in my mind, man!

Craig's in a prison of his own making, but that's a whole other show.

Hey!

As are we all.

But no, we are not in a Minimum Security Prison, and one of the things I really wanted to talk to you about, Jim, is Jelaine Maxwell.

who was convicted of child sex trafficking in connection to the Jeffrey Epstein case.

She was in a federal prison in Florida, I believe.

In Tallahassee, Florida.

And then Donald Trump, his Justice Department, wanted to talk to her.

So they moved her to club fed in Texas.

And Trump officials are saying, this happens all the time.

This happens all the time that people who are convicted of federal crimes get moved to a minimum security prison.

Doesn't this happen all the time, Jim Santel?

Jim Santel (guest)

You won't be surprised to hear that this is yet another situation where

My president, my White House, says something that's just affirmatively wrong, is not the case.

And so the Bureau of Prisons, which is a unit of the Department of Justice, for what it's worth, it actually consumes the lion's share of the budget of the Department of Justice is Bureau of Prisons.

And what happens here is precisely what you just articulated, Jane.

She is at this fairly medium security prison.

for people who have committed very serious offenses.

Again, sex trafficking is a violent crime.

It is a violent crime.

We need to understand that.

And there are concerns about safety and security of the community, of the nation.

And you also want to send those deterrent messages to those people who would do it.

You commit this crime.

You're convicted 20 years in prison.

And you will spend the rest of that time in a minimum to high security prison because of that.

What happens is exactly what you said.

curiously my deputy attorney general Todd Blanche goes down and visits with her for a couple of days in Tallahassee still not a no transparency on what that was or is all about curious for him to go down there odd that that all of this is happening she is convicted yes she's appealing she's got that right there's no further investigative piece to do here why he is we do not

why he's going down there.

We do not know.

And then as you just said, she's moved to this place in Brian, Texas.

And I have never been there, although I have some familiarity with BOP facilities around the country from photographs and other things.

It is what it is called one of these club fed locations because of the freedom.

that people where they are have they are they are not violent criminals.

There are people who are not a risk of flight.

It's got a fence around the perimeter that frankly, cool.

Calvin could very easily catapult beyond and the three of us could probably do the same as well.

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If Greg give me a leg up, you know, I probably like I'll just stay

Jim Santel (guest)

here.

Greg Mock (co-host)

I'm tired.

Jim Santel (guest)

Right.

All screens again, in inside prisons, good to have programs, all kinds of programs offered to these folks, which are positive things.

And again, here's the point of all of that.

This is beyond atypical.

There are Bureau of Prison Standards.

It's almost a chart that says if you are convicted of these serious violent offenses, you will end up in one of these various facilities, medium to high security.

This is not it.

I dare say it's extraordinary.

I don't want to say it's never, ever happened before, but I'll bet you can count it on one hand.

situations like this, it is extraordinary and once again one wonders what is happening next.

Is this in anticipation?

Heaven forbid that my president should grant her a pardon.

some clemency, something else is happening.

I want the Congress not to engage in any negotiations with her about her testimony that would contemplate a congressional grant of immunity.

She should be done.

Spend the next 20 years in prison.

Stay there.

I don't want to hear from you again candidly.

And there's nothing we care about the victims.

Let's focus on that and be done with this.

And yet the president continues to make this his worst political nightmare just by

doing these kinds of things and keeping all of this very much in the news.

Greg Mock (co-host)

And that's something I want to keep in the conversation every single time we discuss this.

And you just brought it up as well.

The closer she gets to freedom, the less we'll ever have justice for the survivors and their families.

And for individuals who made it their banner, their war, their reason for being.

was to find out who was on that list to get people in court to get them convicted and thrown in jail, or in their minds, maybe worse.

They're just saying, it's fine, don't worry about it.

But they'll never get that satisfaction either.

And if they truly believe it, if they truly want this, they're never going to get this if they stand behind the president who is

Allowing this to take place right now this the justice will never be served and These survivors will never be thought of again after that They'll never be in that moment and honestly, we don't really talk about them too much We talk about her we talk about Epstein we talk about Trump But there are there are real living breathing consequences of their actions in this country right now And they will get no justice no time in court and they will not have closure and that is

Truly, truly disgusting.

Jane Matt and Air (host)

If you're just joining us, Jim Santel, host of Amicus, a law review across the network on Saturday mornings from 9 to 11 is our guest here on Matt Near on Air.

And we're talking about the Jelaine Maxwell case Trump sends.

a guy who was his personal attorney who now works for the Department of Justice to talk to this woman one-on-one, nobody else there.

And then after this little chat, they move her to a minimum security prison where life is apparently good.

The victims, speaking of, are outraged by this and horrified by this.

And the one thing that I keep going back to, Jim, James Comer,

Comer now is the head of the House Oversight Committee and he's issued subpoenas on who he wants to talk to related to the Epstein Maxwell situation and it's Bill and Hillary Clinton and it's

Robert Muller, who had nothing to do with the Epstein case.

Was Eric Holder on that list too?

Eric Holder.

Jim Santel (guest)

If he's not, why not put him on the

Jane Matt and Air (host)

list, right?

Why not make everybody use?

Put Santa on the list for heaven's sakes.

You know who's not on the list that these Republicans don't seem to want to talk to?

Any of the victims.

Or Alex Acosta.

I am going to keep harping on this until I drop over.

Alex Acosta is the one.

He was the official in Florida who made that original sweetheart super deal for Jeffrey Epstein where he got to spend the night in jail and essentially go out and live his life.

And then Alex Acosta was appointed to the Trump administration.

Nobody wants to talk to him.

I find that glaring that just is amazing to me, Jim.

Jim Santel (guest)

It is glaring.

It's all the other adjectives that the three of us use every Thursday morning and beyond, every single day when you get this kind of, this is, again, congressional action.

You're absolutely right.

If you really want to focus on doing oversight and passing meaningful legislation that would impact the lives of people who are victimized by the horrific sex trafficking of which this is a part, by the way, we know well one of those, at least one of those young women committed suicide because of her involvement.

have seen Maxwell situation of those Jane, speaking out if the Congress was really in finding out more about in from the Department of Justice as well.

We'll talk with y happens, what the nature all about.

We do have in place.

I've used them to prosecute.

You want to

The Comer thing, once again, in a matter that has no further investigative dimension, there's nobody else out there to prosecute, nobody else out there to identify that has a legitimate law enforcement or even congressional purpose.

This is political and, again, offensive absolutely.

And the list of people plainly intended, once again, to satisfy

just some these general things that we throw out there.

It's a hoax.

This is a conspiracy.

What is a hoax?

Just fine for me what is going on here.

These two people engage in horrific events.

One of them committed suicide.

Yes, that's a tragedy.

A second one went to trial.

She's got that right.

She's been convicted and she needs to spend the next 20 years in prison.

Let us support the victims.

Let's hear that from a United States Senator and be done with this political stuff that advances nothing in the interests of American people, aside from addressing maybe some prurient interest.

The things I read on the

There was little newspapers at the grocery store.

Aside from that, there's nothing more to do here.

It is once again shameful that the Congress is doing that.

Jane Matt and Air (host)

But the biggest problem is they created this monster.

Absolutely.

They created this Frankenstein by promising over and over again.

All the details are coming out.

We're going to release.

everything.

Once Trump comes in, he's the most transparent person on the planet.

And then now it's like, oh, there's nothing to see here.

Greg Mock (co-host)

Well, and there's going to be absolutely nobody standing up saying anything with regard to elected officials.

If you want a Republican standing up or a Democrat standing up or an independent setting up because Mike Johnson sent them all home right away.

So they couldn't vote on this to begin with.

So really, it comes down to and for me, this notion of

You made this your calling card your battle cry and now if you are sitting here saying well We don't know if you're doubting it and you no longer want justice and you no longer want answers You no longer get to be the ones who get to care about this You don't get to take it up if you don't think this is the top of priority thing for you as far as finding out Who's on that list and you're saying it's a hoax or we spend too much time on this or he's dead guess what I Don't have to trust you anymore and the things you say you believe because this is huge

This is so important.

And the fact that people can just change their mind says so much about that mentality of motivation towards a moral issue when they have no morality to begin with.

Jim Santel (guest)

And here's the other important point to remember.

The administration, including the Attorney General, could bring this to a conclusion this afternoon.

Not the grand jury stuff.

That's not discloseable.

The rest of the file, which is not protected by Rule 6E, she does, in fact, have possession of that by a click of a button.

She could release that.

I promise you, a lot of that is very boring.

It's not interesting.

It's thousands of pages of stuff.

And yes, it may identify some of the people, non-victims, involved in this.

Hurry and interest there, getting that out there, sure.

Take care of this tomorrow, Madam Attorney General.

Bring all this to an end, release those documents and be done with this.

Jane Matt and Air (host)

Yes, but the president said it out loud yesterday or the day before.

We want to make sure that there are people who shouldn't be on that list.

Oopsie, oops, what did I just say?

Jim Santel is our guest host of Amicus, a law review.

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Good morning and welcome back to Matt Nair on Air, Jane Matt Nair, Greg Buck, Calvinator on the Board, coming to you from our studio at Radio Park in Racine.

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He is the host of Amicus, a law review on Saturday mornings across the network from 9 to 11.

It's a fabulous show.

I highly encourage you to check it out.

Jim Santel is our guest, a former U.S.

attorney, also an acting attorney that makes us attorney adjacent.

Therefore, we are knowledge adjacent.

That's how we like to place

Jim Santel (guest)

ourselves.

I think you're all honorary attorneys.

I'm going to put together some certificates.

Honorary

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lawyers.

Oh, I love it.

Jim Santel (guest)

All of your work here on Civic Media and beyond.

We'll take that.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

I'm wearing my t-shirt.

My friend Brad Wenzel is a comedian monster truck law.

That's what I'll be doing.

There we go.

One thing I want to say real briefly, Gesundheit, about Jelaine Maxwell before we move on to what's happening in Texas, Jim.

There have been whitewashing attempts I've already seen on some of the more right-wing networks.

On Newsmax in particular was, you know, Jelaine, she was kind of a victim too.

So they're trying to make her, you know, that poor woman, oh, oh, oh, poor Jelaine.

And I'm also hearing the other whitewashing about, oh, Alan Dershowitz was on somebody's podcast.

and defending Jeffrey Epstein because technically he wasn't a pedophile because he wasn't after children, just teenage girls.

Jim Santel (guest)

Where do we begin with that?

Those particular gems, right?

And I would make reference to not that everyone has immediate access to it, but you can go back to the evidence presented during her trial.

And not only does she engage in the trafficking events that is arranging for manipulating communications and identifying people.

Victims, yes, she doesn't regard them as that.

She regards them obviously as property to be used as a part of her horrific behavior.

But you can find not only that, she herself.

She herself engaged

Jane Matt Nair (host)

in

Jim Santel (guest)

the sexual abuse, the sexual offense, the sexual engagement with some of these young girls.

And had he gone to trial, we've never seen that in particular.

Again, it's in the file, Madam Attorney General.

If you want to bring these to an end about what Jeffrey Epstein did.

I do not pretend to be a psychologist, but the man is sitting in federal custody, awaiting the complete exposure of all that he has done.

He's facing the rest of his life in prison, and yes, he committed suicide.

That is a tragic event for any human being, but it's also a reflection of his own knowledge of what is in the presentation that he was about to face, had that case gone to trial.

Oh, Jim

Jane Matt Nair (host)

just froze up.

Jim Santel (guest)

and would have said that indeed this did all take place.

Do not try to make a glane and a scapegoat.

She is not.

Do not try to resurrect him.

He was at the head of this terrible, terrible activity.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

which reminds me, by the way, James Comer called Bill Barr, too.

He'd be a good one to talk to.

He'd be a good one to question.

Jim Santel is our guest.

We got a couple of minutes left, Jim.

So the Democrats in Texas have left Texas so they couldn't have a quorum.

Essentially, the governor called a special session not to help the people who were devastated in the July floods, and they are still suffering down there.

There are horrible reports coming out of Texas and the lack of help they're getting.

not just from the federal government, from the state government, but the whole reason was to, they want to force this districting.

And that's why the Democrats left, which is very similar to what the Democrats did in Wisconsin, under Walker and the whole Surprise Act 10 drop.

Jim Santel (guest)

Right.

And so what you have here is an initiative that's cleaning up quite a bit initiated by the White House.

They produce this revised map of proposed congressional districts in Texas.

They send it down there.

I'm thinking once again of Donald Trump and his Sharpie redefining various lines this time to recraft the congressional districts in

Texas.

So there will be five majority Republican districts, an upkeep of uptake of about five new districts.

changing dramatically.

What has already been done in Texas and Wisconsin and every other state, right after the census, we engage in all this behavior and we'll do it again.

We're supposed to do it again about five years.

There's nothing legally wrong with a legislature doing it, but when you're doing it for the express purpose of giving to this president a majority in the House of Representatives, which he, any president would not otherwise have by the lines that you just drew.

a few years ago, then you know you're doing something out of partisan pursuits.

And frankly, even animus, we do have the members of the House, the Democrats who fled.

And frankly, there's a lot of precedent in Texas goes back to the late 19th century for representatives to do just this.

There's a strong tradition there.

We know where they are.

They're in there on the news.

They're in hotels in Chicago.

And so we get this extraordinary report again from Senator Cordenen stacing

We're going to get the FBI.

The FBI is now going to identify them and presumably do what?

Arrest them for what crime?

It's just ridiculous.

And in the end, again, this is not going to happen, but Governor Abbott and the president need to back off of this plan.

The other part of this, of course, it's spreading.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

That's

Jim Santel (guest)

the big news.

On the other side, you've got the Democrats in Illinois and in New York and certainly in

Jane Matt Nair (host)

California

Jim Santel (guest)

talking about the same thing.

My former boss, Eric Holder, now coming out and saying, you know what?

I'm now in favor of gerrymandering because we've got to fight fire with fire.

And that's extraordinary too.

And that may well be the thing that's going to consume us for the next 12 to 15.

Actually,

Jane Matt Nair (host)

in the

Jim Santel (guest)

last 15 months, are we going to start redistricting every congressional district in America?

Is that what we're facing?

That's what you have caused, Mr. President.

That's what you've caused.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

You can't run a country on reaction.

You just can't.

And if your programs and your policies are so popular and everyone loves them so much,

Why do you have to Jerry so, Jerry Mander to such an extent?

Hmm.

There's questions there.

Jim Santel has been our guest host of Amicus, a law review on Saturdays from 9 to 11 across the network.

Thank you so much, Jim.

We will see you next Thursday.

Always a

Jim Santel (guest)

delight, my friends.

Take care.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

News is coming up next.

And then efforts to rewrite history continue.

We'll have all the details coming up.

Keep it here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Jane Matt Nair

Good morning and welcome to Matt Nair on air.

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If you're watching on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter, coming up this hour, we have Brittany Merleau with a little weather and wine.

Greg Bach

She went to EAA last week.

Was it last week?

Two weeks.

Oh my God.

She melted.

She melted, but she saw some amazing stuff, too.

Jane Matt Nair

She did.

But we have some very hot weather coming our way, I believe.

Might see some rain a little bit later on.

So Brittany's going to give us an update on what we can expect as we head into the weekend less, week into the Wisconsin State Fair, bunch of county fairs, and other things going on all around the state.

Sweet Corn Fest in Kenosha coming up.

Oh, yum.

So Brittany joining us in about 15 minutes after 10 30 journal sentinels sports guru J R Radcliffe will be here to talk all about our boys the Brewers.

Greg Bach

Oh, what's going on with them?

Jane Matt Nair

They just want a couple games.

There's no excitement.

Greg Bach

So they're doing

Jane Matt Nair

better than the Colorado Rockies.

They are doing considerably better than the Rockies.

Thank you.

And we'll wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it is the long, strange trip edition.

Yeah, it's kind of along the lines of what you think.

Greg Bach

Yeah, yeah,

Jane Matt Nair

yeah.

Stay tuned for that for Artisbet, as we call it at the very end of the show.

Want to remind you as well to make sure you have the Civic Media app.

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And we are playing for a four pack of Milwaukee Brewers club level tickets.

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Greg Bach

they will be playing the Pittsburgh pirates on August the 13th with 13th, which is a Wednesday.

We don't want to make sure you can go because they're not transferable, right?

But this is going to be great.

I mean, it's just come on, man.

It's a hot ticket, baby.

We're at 70 wins already.

No one else is.

And who knows where a hundred was going to come in there.

And I'm very excited and I'm hoping.

And I feel like JR Radcliffe, along with what Paul Newton said last week, is just going to give me more hope for my heart, which is an

large demand right now.

Hope, not my heart, my heart's not

Jane Matt Nair

large.

Hope is always a good thing.

JR joining us after 10.30.

And we have Brewers tomorrow.

They're back in action.

They're off today.

They're going to be hosting the Mets.

Our broadcast tomorrow will start at 6.35.

And you can catch the game on Terrestrial Radio on WRCE and Richland Center, WISS in Oshkosh, here in Racine and Kenosha on WRJN in Park Falls on WCQM.

Heyward on WBZH.

That's tomorrow night.

The Brewers hosting the Mets.

The game, our broadcast starts at 635.

Wanted to start off with this.

I think it's important just to keep an eye on what's going on.

There's so much news that breaks and a lot of it, we miss things just because things break with such

so quickly these days.

But it's important to keep an eye on stuff like this.

This is from The Guardian.

The Smithsonian, we're talking about the Smithsonian in Washington.

Greg Bach

Yeah, the big museum.

Jane Matt Nair

Yeah.

Smithsonian says it will restore Trump impeachment exhibits in the coming weeks.

Yeah, there was a little oopsie.

Smithsonian about a couple of weeks ago.

Someone went into the Smithsonian and there is apparently a display on some of the rockier moments in presidential histories.

And they include which presidents were impeached.

President Bill Clinton was impeached.

That was included in this display.

You know what wasn't?

Trump's two impeachments.

Huh.

How would that happen?

I wonder.

The revelation that Trump was no longer listed among the impeached presidents sparked concerns that history was being rewritten.

Yeah, that kind of makes a couple eyebrows go up.

A spokesperson for the museum had previously pledged a future and updated the exhibit will include all impeachments.

It's not clear though when that's gonna happen.

It's coming.

Just not right now.

Greg Bach

But Jane, that's not the end.

Jane Matt Nair

No, there's more.

Greg Bach

There's more, everybody.

Jane Matt Nair

There's more.

This kind of jumped all over the internet.

I believe it was yesterday.

And this is from Axios.

Library of Congress claims coding error for missing sections of the Constitution.

Yeah, this is kind of a, oops, the Library of Congress yesterday pointed to an unspecified coding error.

that led to key parts of the U.S.

Constitution being deleted from their Constitution annotated website.

You know what was

Greg Bach

missing?

The 2nd Amendment, the 27th Amendment, that section that deals with copyright.

They got rid of habeas.

Oops, I'm

Jane Matt Nair

sorry.

It was an unspecified coding error that left out the right to habeas corpus.

Habeas corpus protects all of us.

All humans, not just citizens.

All people from unlawful detention.

Greg Bach

You get due process.

You do.

Whether you are here as a citizen, whether you're here legally, whether you're here undocumented, you are owed due process by the constitution of the United States written by a bunch of guys a bunch of times ago.

They also, oopsie doodle, the section about foreign emoluments clause.

Oh, where you're not supposed to get paid by other governments?

Where you're not supposed to accept a free plane from another government?

I don't know.

It just seems, Jane, Jane, computers are tough.

It's, well, they're

Jane Matt Nair

twitchy.

Greg Bach

I don't

Jane Matt Nair

know.

They're twitchy.

Greg Bach

I don't know how to run my Apple computer Mac.

It's

Jane Matt Nair

tough.

The Library of Congress said in a statement yesterday,

It has been brought to our attention that some sections of Article 1 are missing from the Constitution annotated website.

We've learned this is due to a coding error.

The Library of Congress did not respond to any further questions other than to say we are working to resolve this issue and regret the inconvenience.

Greg Bach

And this is where I want to send a, not a small, a huge shout out.

To those people who are out there, and I don't know them But the people who are out there who are checking websites all the time who are looking for the information making sure that our history stays watching what gets disappeared Exactly, and if you ever want to see a really great example of what the internet Well, if you want to see a great example of what happens when people try to disappear their own history or try to wash it away There's a website called the way back machine.

That's capturing the internet as it goes and you can see

things that people delete so you can keep up to what, that is going to probably be one of the most important history books in our modern day to look back at that website to say, oh, they got rid of this too, but seriously, there is a huge amount of gratitude that I have for those individuals who make it their life's work, even if it's not being paid to make sure that the history that's happening right now is still being recorded, preserved and protected.

because that honestly is part of a free and fair democracy as well.

You cannot allow the powers that be to rewrite our history.

Our country has a problem with rewriting history as it is.

No doubt.

And we're coming to blows with that and we're coming to, we're dealing with that day by day, but we can all agree that world, our leaders rewriting history from, I don't know, five, six years ago is bad.

It's real bad.

As

Jane Matt Nair

far as oopsie diddles go.

These seem kind of bigger, as opposed to whoops, those darn coding errors.

I don't know.

And it was just the right of habeas corpus and emoluments that got disappeared.

What's it going to be next?

855-7524842.

If you would like to join the conversation, Jean from Eau Claire is on the line.

Good morning, Jean.

Thanks for joining us.

How you doing?

Jean from Eau Claire (caller)

Three cheers for you guys every day.

You bring something out there.

Super important because i was hoping to greg thanks for the way back machine.

I've been really concerned about all the crap that's disappearing the history that's disappearing a lot of people say a lot of people don't have time to to look at all the stuff and they just trust what they read.

I'm praying that people have copies or videos of what happened when those hearings were taken place and when Trump was committing those crimes

and all of the documentation there was and i know pbpc had a lot of that stuff out there and you could watch the hearings now even in your spare time of the things that donald trump did with russia all of the different things that have happened and i'm afraid of them

And I hope people are really preserving this.

This is so, so important.

Thanks, guys.

Thank you.

Bye.

Jane Matt Nair

Appreciate it, Gene.

Thank you so very much.

Just as a reminder, Scott Walker did the same thing when he was governor in Wisconsin.

We disappeared all kinds of climate information.

Greg Bach

Well, I mean, that's when Scott, when Scott, it was governor.

Well, I guess, I guess a certain people then Scott is just a pioneer of the process.

He's the pioneer of oopsie doodles.

I'm going to put a web.

I'm going to put a link to the, it's called the internet archive way back machine.

It's a 501 C three nonprofit that's building a digital library of internet sites and other cultural artifacts in digital form.

And to this day, they have, they have

preserved 940 billion

Jean from Eau Claire (caller)

web pages all the

Greg Bach

time.

So if you're looking for something, give it, go there.

It's a 501c3, it's nonprofit.

I will be in our show notes, but that is, and this is the second or third time in a week, I've heard them referred to because of the work they do to preserve our history.

keeping people, maybe not keeping them honest, but say, like, if someone said, I never said that, well, I have this website here that says

Jane Matt Nair

you did.

And we have video of you saying that thing.

It is critically important, and I really got back into reading a lot in the last few months, and I read a book about the history of libraries.

This has happened throughout history.

Greg Bach

Oh,

Jane Matt Nair

yes, of course.

Trying to disappear knowledge.

depending upon who comes out on top, disappearing cultures, disappearing.

I mean, this happens.

Greg Bach

This goes back thousands of years.

It goes back to the point of the winner writes the history books.

There are civilizations we will never know about because they're gone.

They're referred to in books, and that's all we have, but we don't have their songs, their writings, their teachings, their politics, their methods, because they're gone, because someone said they are not of us, therefore.

Not our values.

Exactly.

Not our values.

Yeah.

Hang on to your books.

Hang on to your books.

Keep them people accountable.

Myvote.wi.gov as always go there, find out who represents you and reach out to your representatives.

Tell them doing a great job or tell them what you think of the job they're doing, but always be respectful when you talk to your reps.

Jane Matt Nair

Please.

And again, our show notes, you can always find our show notes at our website, go to civicmedia.us.

At the very top, you click on shows, go to matinee run air, click on that.

And that will bring up 100, at least 100, archived shows.

And Greg does a really good job of all the articles that we talk about and everything.

There are links within those show

Jean from Eau Claire (caller)

notes.

Jane Matt Nair

So check that out again at civicmedia.us.

And don't forget to download the app.

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Oh,

Jean from Eau Claire (caller)

pun.

Civic

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Media app.

Coming up, the mat and air on your house band, Hot and Sticky, is going to join us.

Oh, come

Greg Bach

on.

For a

Jane Matt Nair

little weather and wine.

I wrote it down.

Greg Bach

We know it's Britney Merleau.

You know, it's great.

Do you know what's great, Jane?

A lovely rainstorm.

You know it's terrible.

Hot rain.

Jane Matt Nair

Britney's coming up next.

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Jane Matenair (host)

Good morning.

Welcome back to Matenair on Air.

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She joins us on Thursday for a little weather and wine as we like to call it.

Brittany Merleau is here.

Civic media meteorologist.

It's getting steamy around here in in Racine already.

We have some hot weather coming this weekend, don't we?

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

Yes, we do.

And it doesn't really want to quit, honestly.

until a couple of weeks, like a week and a half at least of some high heat, high humidity, summer, good old summer weather, right?

It's better than the wildfire smoke.

Jane Matenair (host)

That's true.

And is it a high pressure system now that's going to push that wildfire smoke out of here?

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

So we've got a low pressure system.

Oh, I knew.

Yes.

As

Jane Matenair (host)

I said, the low pressure system, Brittany.

See, I didn't say anything.

I just

Greg Buck (co-host)

sound like I'm just intensively listening and not thinking about hot rain and humidity.

Well,

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

I know it's like the trade off.

We either get terrible air quality and comfortable conditions or we're getting the high heat summer.

I'll take summer at this point.

Well, it's

Jane Matenair (host)

August.

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

This is kind

Jane Matenair (host)

of August weather.

So.

Are we gonna get rain or is it gonna depend upon this afternoon where you are in the state?

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

It depends where you are in the state this afternoon if you're further south much more chances probably sparking up around four to eight o'clock or so and then it could continue through the night but Recent data is showing that we're really barely gonna get anything.

So today might not even happen.

Maybe we'll just stay warm and sunny out there

Yeah, these models have been all over the place.

So we've got the rain moving through Iowa and into Illinois now.

You can kind of see those clouds kind of pushing into southwestern parts of the state right now.

So maybe something will spark from those.

If you're far up north, no worries today.

Your day is tomorrow.

We've got it all over the place.

Really?

Tomorrow morning, we're looking at storms starting.

and those will be more north, and then they kind of want to work their way down to the south, especially through the AM.

So Saturday, we're looking at strong to severe storms, and those could really dump some heavy rainfall, could see some damaging wind gusts, especially into the Fox Valley, Madda scenario, kind of looks like it wants to set up on Saturday night and into Sunday.

And then Sunday, it continues to be a stormy, wet, active weather day.

Monday that continues and potentially into Tuesday too.

So the southern part of the state is going to see a lot more of the rain Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, while the northern part of the state is going to see more of it tomorrow and Saturday.

Greg Buck (co-host)

So you just said that the models are all over the place and when we look at whether we trust you and our other meteorology friends.

and our weather apps and whatnot.

And when your face was something that in the inconsistency of the models coming out and giving you a definitive answer, is it just a, well, let's do the best guessing we can, or is it a matter of just kind of putting them all together, creating an average?

What is your process when the models aren't consistent?

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

Sure.

Good question, Greg.

You know, it's really making the best educated guess.

You're going to pull from all of the education, all the things you've ever learned, all the things you've watched.

I like to go back and look back at the same situation, what happened last time.

So I'll compare to history versus what's happening today and kind of go off of that.

But I mean, you really got to know the hyper local area and what chances are plus the terrain on top of it.

So you're taking into account so many things when the models are inconsistent.

and you just got to watch it like a hawk, which I've been doing.

Jane Matenair (host)

Just out of curiosity, Brittany Merlot, civic media meteorologist.

Award winning.

Yes.

This data that you refer to that came in the past that you look at when you're making these models, where does that data come from?

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

Oh, you know, the National Weather Service, NOAA, things like that.

Oh, OK.

So hundreds of

Jane Matenair (host)

people, hundreds of people over the years have worked on these models and put this data together.

And that's kind of what we rely on for forecasting.

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

Yeah, I mean, it's difficult to predict the future, you know?

We can do it.

We need to look at stuff to make an educated future.

Because

Jane Matenair (host)

science is a thing.

Greg Buck (co-host)

So I see what she did there, Jane, fabulously done.

Just a segue made of honey.

When you asked the question, I wanted to say, well, the farmer's almanac.

Because I am a simple man, everyone, who does not know what they refer to it.

I do not know things.

So

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

when you said,

Greg Buck (co-host)

going back in history, I'm like, oh, the farm, yeah, of course.

Brittany probably just pulls off that firm.

It was almost like, what happened in 1898?

There we go.

It's probably going to happen this week.

Probably

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

not because,

Greg Buck (co-host)

because we're getting wildfire smoke from Canada.

Brittany Merleau (meteorologist)

Yeah.

Oh, that's a whole new battle too.

fight as it is.

I mean, I'm not used to forecasting wildfire smoke that long over Wisconsin.

When was it going to leave?

So I learned a lot just last week watching that and the high pressure.

Like you said, Jane, the high pressure is the problem.

That's what brought it.

And by the 18th of this month, looks like another big high pressure from Canada swings through.

So I'm watching to see if that wildfire smoke will be here again or not.

But there's

Canada is just on fire.

If you look at the masks, there's just more.

If they just listen to

Greg Buck (co-host)

Tom Tiffany, they get their act

Jane Matenair (host)

together.

Yeah, Tom's got all the answers.

They just need bigger fire brooms apparently or something like that, whatever.

Brittany Merleau is Civic Media's meteorologist, and she joins us every Thursday at this time for a little weather and wine.

Thank you so much, Brittany.

We'll see you next week.

Keep cool.

Thank you.

Stay close.

We have news coming up next.

And then when we return, there's a little excitement about Milwaukee's boys of summer.

Journalist Sentinel, sports guru J.R Radcliffe will be here.

We'll talk all things brewers coming up.

Stay with us.

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Jane Matt

Good morning and welcome back to Matt and Air on Air, Jane Matt and Air, Greg Bach.

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He joins us occasionally to talk about all things sports.

He's finally back.

Journal Sentinel Sports Guru JR Radcliffe is here.

How are you?

Well,

JR Radcliffe

I'm doing great, friends.

It has been a hot, hot minute.

I am very sad that my schedule, like, I swear I'm not even doing that much stuff.

It just

Greg Bach

so happens.

Oh,

JR Radcliffe

thanks.

I mean, it's just that, like...

Every other Thursday at this time, it happens to be like, oh, I'm driving somewhere to to a baseball tournament in Iowa or or I have a training session like this stuff just keeps popping up.

I don't know what to tell you, but I am I'm so glad to be here.

Jane Matt

We're delighted to have you back.

How dare your regular paying job get in the way of the free spot that you do for us every week, which we wish we wish we really, really.

But that aside.

That aside, uh, let's talk our boys, the brewers.

No, nobody expected this at the beginning of the season.

No one.

JR Radcliffe

I mean, I picked them to go 82 and 80 and I, I love, I love that for me.

It was really, uh, really great foresight on my part.

Yeah.

This is where we're so beyond the, the, what could have been expected?

I mean, even in mid May, this was a team that was a few games below 500.

It looks pretty middling had good pitching, but.

you know, just did not have enough in their offense.

And as we've gone along, you know, the pitching is still great.

And the offense has absolutely been been great.

Like it's been really good to the point that even though they don't hit a lot of home runs or even like slug at all, even a lot of extra base hits at all, they're just so good at putting the ball in play, getting on base.

I mean, I.

It's not that I think they're lucky.

I think everything has gone right to some degree now.

You could certainly argue with that because they've had some injuries lately to Jackson Churio and Jake and Mizrowski kind of, although that's not that big of a deal, really.

You know, they've had maybe a couple of hiccups, but for the most part, they have had so many players step up and fill massive roles that you couldn't have envisioned.

Isaac Collins, I think, is...

Maybe get a win nationally rookie of the year.

I mean I could not have even envisioned that again in mid-May I wouldn't even that is not a thought that would have entered my head and now I think he's actually kind of one of the front runners if not the front runner a Madison actually a Madison guy Drake Baldwin who plays for the Atlanta Braves we saw this week He's probably the only other candidate who's really gonna stand in his way So guys like him and Caleb Durbin and you know Logan Henderson who's filled in really admirable when they've needed somebody and

Even the bullpen guys, the guys that you've kind of come to rely on, they've stepped up and been big.

Trevor McGill's been awesome as closer.

I mean, they really are getting something out of everybody and that's what has made them so effective.

There is not a spot on that roster that you can attack because everybody won through nine.

is doing something, is getting on bases, working pitchers, and you know, the pitchers keep it close enough that if they're down a run in the sixth inning, you're not worried that they're going to find some offense and get what it takes.

So it's kind of an old school coach's dream right now.

The Brewers are winning in ways that, you know, that the team's won in the 1980s and 1990s, but it is so effective for them, this pitching speed and defense model.

And they have more wins than any other team in baseball, but by a couple games at this point, it's pretty

Jane Matt

great.

I feel like we're the Durham Bulls in, you know, it's like playing baseball with Grace and everything is working and it's like poetry in motion.

So when are we going to ruin it?

Hey,

JR Radcliffe

it is it is important to know that they are.

They're just white hot, you know, they've won six in a row coming into this home stand They almost got us George Webb burgers a few weeks ago when they won 11 in a row before that they had an eight game winning streak I mean they are they are on top of everything.

It has been sustained.

It's been sustained really since toward the end of May So it's not it's not just a hot streak.

It is a just tremendous season at this point There there will be valleys, you know, their schedule is one of the five toughest left in Major League Baseball in terms of opponent winning percentage

They do have some pretty big opponents still on the schedule.

The Phillies whom they swept the first time, but still the Phillies are an interesting one early in September.

There's this five game series coming up in a couple of weeks against the Cubs at Wrigley Field.

That is going to be massive.

Yeah, the tiebreaker in the in the NL Central.

I think it's going to be a big deal.

The Cubs will are not going to go away just because the Brewers have bypassed them in our four games.

I would not plan on the Cubs just rolling over.

They're a very good still very good baseball team.

So that's

Something to watch the Brewers are going to be in a tight competition with the Dodgers and potentially the Phillies over the NLE East team is For positioning for seating, you know, it's it's so important now that they're here That they skip that first round playoff series that wild card series a lot of coin flip action there where you don't really could go either way Right went a long way last year against the Mets when the Brewers seem to have things in control If they could just skip that best of three go straight to the best of five That's going to take one of the two best records in the national league.

They have that right now

they need to keep that.

They need to find a way to, and if the Dodgers pass them, that's fine, but no other team then can.

They need to hold on to that top two record, and it's going to make things a lot easier for them when they get to the postseason.

Greg Bach

If you're just joining us on Matt and Aaron Aaron, the Civic Media Radio Network, we are talking to our sports guru, Journal Sentinel writer, sports writer, JR Radcliffe is here.

He's back.

We've missed him very, very much.

And I've thought about this conversation with you all week.

Oh boy.

Well, we had a conversation last week with Paul Noonan.

And one of the things he did that really for me as a Brewer's fan, and it addresses what you say, Jane, is that as a Brewer's fan, you automatically come in with a half empty mentality.

You're like, this is great.

When are we going to hit reality?

Jane Matt

Exactly.

When's the rock going to hit my head?

Greg Bach

But.

What Paul really put out and what you are saying, I'm picking up what you're laying down too.

This is not a brewers that is lucky or on a fluke hot streak.

This is a confluence of great decisions from the managing to the front office, on acquisitions, on placement, on who's playing, on rosters, and it's working out.

And what's wonderful too, and I don't wish injury upon anyone, and you mentioned this as well, is that in the face of injury of their biggest star players,

People are still playing to the top of their game.

They're playing often.

I mean, they have now swept five times in a month, five times in a month.

They hit 70, 70 wins quicker than they ever have in franchise history.

They got more.

They've the closest team as Toronto right now.

And for me, I'm no longer at a.

Well, when is this all going to fall apart?

For me personally, as I was someone like you in the beginning of the season who said, yeah, it's probably going to be a ho-hum season.

It's not going to be terrible.

We're not going to be the Rockies or the White Sox.

But we're not going to probably be contenders.

It might be Craig Councils, at least in the division.

It might be his year.

And it still could be.

I understand that.

I see a brewers team this season for the rest of the games that are remaining that are going to not just give it a fighting chance, but they are going to work to make sure you don't come anywhere near that first place in the division, let alone trying to skip over that that wild carpet because God, I just need them to.

I need them to get out of the first the first round.

I need them to get out of the first round of the playoffs.

It's just it's too many seasons in a row of we got with postseason.

Yeah, for like an

Jane Matt

hour.

Yeah, we got there and it's over.

Yeah.

It was literally 72 hours of postseason

Greg Bach

baseball.

I don't think the brewery should be allowed to print a t-shirt that says postseason unless we either make it to the first round or out of the first round.

I'm tired of irrelevant postseason merch that is is still cooling off from the press when they lose.

JR Radcliffe

Yeah, I tell you what, you were probably not alone.

And this is maybe reductive.

But if you look at their attendance this year, it hasn't been awesome.

It's been below what you'd expect for a team that is playing really well.

Now, I don't think we've quite hit that home stretch part of the year where, okay, people are like, this is the best team in baseball.

We have to go see them through August and September.

So I think there's still a bump coming.

But their attendance is down.

And relative to the rest of the league, it's quite a bit down.

And I think

You are you are hitting on what I think a lot of brewers fans have come to terms with like, okay They're a good team They have some alchemy that allows them to to perform with the smallest market with speed and defense and pitching and whatever But like the bottom line is they get to the postseason and doesn't translate They've made it to the nlcs before so I know it's they're capable of doing it.

Yep But the last few years they haven't even gotten out of the first round like what are you know, why wouldn't fans be more?

Cautiously optimistic as opposed to like going all in on this team.

I totally get it and I think that's that's fair this team like you mentioned is is Rising above benchmarks that have never been done before in franchise history.

So there is at least that optimism I think you'd also go with

Looking at the rest of the league, there aren't a lot of juggernauts here.

This is not a Dodgers team.

This is not like that 2020 Dodgers team where the Brewers just had their best 60 game stretch in franchise history and it's still one game better than how the Dodgers were over 60 games in 2020, you know, like there were a couple teams there that were just, you know, a couple hundred win teams that the Brewers would not have competed with.

I mean, even even now, you wouldn't even say that they they're on that level.

So, um, so.

I think you look at the league being kind of just whatever the brewer is being as good as they've ever been and you maybe can start to feel that this is something a little more special.

All of that said, the playoffs are still random.

There

Jane Matt

is, you

JR Radcliffe

know, very good teams have gotten beaten in the first round of playoffs.

And the brewers certainly are no stranger to that.

Even when, you know, I mean, they were, they lost the last two at home.

They had the better record.

They were the better team on paper than the New York Mets and the Arizona Diamondbacks and they lost both of those.

Yeah.

So.

I think that's always going to be creeping in the back of people's heads.

I think the depth that they have built up is a regular season thing.

When you get to the postseason, the cream has to be what carries you.

I do think because they don't really rely on any one person, maybe they're a little more equipped because one through nine, they can make things happen.

And it really could be anybody who rises up.

And if somebody gets hurt or somebody isn't performing well, oh, well, we got any other guys who can do that.

Same with the pitching staff.

Freddie Peralta is their ace, but they have five guys.

At least four guys that you would say could be the game one starter in the NL wildcard series or NLDS That's a pretty nice luxury to have and again it protects you against all this guys arm, you know fell apart, right?

We have another guy who can step in we still have three guys who can pitch that opening series so um

You know, there's always an uncertainty.

There has to be.

It's just the way that postseason works in all sports, but certainly in baseball.

But this is a, this is a really interesting, you know, there's, there's a lot to love here.

There's a lot to love.

Very, very special team.

Jane Matt

Milwaukee Journal, Sentinel, a sports guru, JR Redcliff is here.

We're talking about the brewers.

I'm feel, you have, calm me down, JR.

as far as.

He is our guru.

He is our.

J.R.

Radcliffe.

But I do think I think you make an excellent point in that instead of just having one superstar, this is our go to guy who does all the things and makes us amazing.

We have a whole bunch of those guys.

That's got to be a better spot to be in than to have the one more key player.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

I was gonna say, I personally don't believe one person in baseball can win you a ring.

I don't think I think it's a confluence of team members and choices and whatnot.

You can have two guys on a basketball team.

You can have Pippen and Jordan, but it's still have your other players.

But in baseball, you need that good team.

That's what produces championships.

JR Radcliffe

Yeah, I think you see Mike Trout and Shohei Otani before he joined the Dodgers.

They'd never want to play off series I mean that just speaks to it all by itself clearly the two best players in baseball on the same team and they never want they didn't win a playoff game Let alone a playoff series.

I mean that's just that just speaks to what you're saying right there.

Um, you know, I also think this team

really values defense and speed more than the guys who are pounding home runs.

I mean, it's just so fundamental.

Like you lose Jackson Churio and you would never say to yourself, well, Blake Perkins is a suitable replacement because Blake Perkins isn't a great offensive player, but defensively he is.

He's really special defensively.

So you maybe even gain a little bit.

Jackson Churio is a quality defensive centerfielder, but Blake Perkins is elite.

And then throwing the fact that Perkins is now hitting has hit three home runs in the last six games.

So you're getting extra offense there.

They do seem to have an answer for everything.

They lost Garrett Mitchell, who's an elite defender, but they got three other guys who can play elite defense.

And that they seem to have figured out how that becomes how you win baseball games.

And you don't even need like superstar pitchers who can strike everybody out because if the ball is put in play, you know, there's going to be a playmate on defense.

The Brewers had zero errors on this road trip.

Six

Jane Matt

games and

JR Radcliffe

zero errors.

And they started, you know, they've started to hit the ball a little bit too out of the park a little bit more than they had been.

They've slugged really well since June.

So.

I, I don't, like, I don't think, I think like a lot of people, I can't fully explain it.

I don't think I quite understand.

You look at this roster on paper, like, oh yeah, best team in baseball.

I would look at it and be like, I don't know, maybe they're okay, but it's a crazy

Jane Matt

year, guys.

It's a crazy year.

Andrew from Maine, by the way, texting in saying, don't limit JR to just being civic media sports guru.

He is Wisconsin's sports guru, nay, America's sports

Greg Bach

guru.

Jane Matt

Check him out.

Yes, JR Radcliffe.

Thank you so much.

We'll see you in a couple of weeks.

This shouldn't be a thing strange along a strange trip edition coming up.

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And we're number two.

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Calvin

Yeah, we'll do all those EPA rollbacks that are happening.

Oh my gosh.

Jay Matt Nair

These are all important stuff.

So that's all.

Tomorrow, Dan Schaefer is off this week.

So he will be... Gallivanting.

Dan is gallivanting.

Overseas Gallivanting well here all about it When he gets back next week Dan Schaefer recon population area civic media's political editor off tomorrow He will be back a week from tomorrow, but we have lots of stuff coming up for you So I hope you can join us right now.

It is 1054 Calvin that means it's time for

Greg Bach

this shouldn't be a thing

If you ever find a thing you

Jay Matt Nair

think should not be send it into Greg and me at Jane says J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S.

Jane says at civicmedia.us.

This from the SF gate.

Calvin found this headline reads San Francisco police sees the unlikely drug of choice of grateful dead fans.

Vendors are selling nitrous oxide or

Ice cold fatties outside J. J. What?

Calvin

No, no, no, no, no.

What are they called again?

Jay Matt Nair

What are they called again?

Ice cold fatties outside Golden Gate Park concerts.

Calvin

I have lots of thoughts.

Jay Matt Nair

Do you?

Yes.

At first, I don't know what that is.

Whippets.

I don't know.

I whip it as a dog.

Calvin

A whip it as a dog.

Really?

I didn't know that.

Well, a Whippet is another way of taking it.

It's an inhalant.

You do a Whippet.

Oh,

Jay Matt Nair

you do

Calvin

a Whippet?

Yeah.

Jay Matt Nair

So

Calvin

the thing for me is I have to remember that grateful dead fans, while they can be in their now 60s, 70s, and 80s, are also in their teens, 20s, and 30s.

And they're not just expanding their mind, man, dancing around the park.

Because, you know, 60, 55, 60 years ago,

They were going to Golden Gate Park to watch the dead for free.

And this show they talked about them at Golden Gate Park was between, I think four and it

Jay Matt Nair

was very, very Garcia would be mortified.

It was,

Calvin

it was so expensive.

Jay Matt Nair

I'm actually

Calvin

going to look it up real quick because it was, it is in the antithesis to what this all started out

Jay Matt Nair

to be.

Yeah, definitely.

Back to the ice cold fatties in a grateful dead parlance.

This translates to overstuffed balloons full of nitrous oxide.

One balloon for $20, two for $30.

Deflated balloons were seen all over the ground.

Dealers were so pervasive, the police department saw a trailer with 100 metal tanks filled with nitrous oxide.

They arrested one guy.

or distributing it.

There were a number of arrests that were made.

Nitrous oxide cuts off oxygen to the brain, resulting in a high that lasts a few minutes.

That seems bad.

That

Calvin

seems what doctors would call unworth it.

Jay Matt Nair

Yeah,

Calvin

not new.

And that was the original point I wanted to make.

I apologize.

I veered off there, but it was that, you know, growing up, you knew what kind.

you were aware what kind of drugs dead heads were taking.

And now it's this, it's, they're nothing new, but that, that being prevalent at dead shows is very surprising and very weird to me, especially for a few minutes high.

I mean, no, thank you very much.

A single ticket there was $233 with a super VIP package available for nearly $10,000.

Unreal.

Yeah.

So, and it's not even, it's, it's, it's dead in company.

It's not even like,

Most of those guys are gone.

Jay Matt Nair

Calvin,

Calvin

you want to weigh in on this?

Well, I agree with Greg that I would not have assumed or associated Whippets with the Grateful Dead, but according to this article, the band has been associated with Whippets specifically for a while.

Apparently, the squeal of a gas can can be heard on the experimental song Barbed Wire Whipping Party, an outtake from the album.

Examax.

Join us

Jay Matt Nair

next week for more of Kelvin talks about the

Calvin

dead.

I

Jay Matt Nair

think Jerry Garcia was sniffing dogs.

That's what I think it was.

I think Jerry Garcia was like, give me that whippet over here.

I want to smell him.

Wow.

Calvin

I see what you did there.

I didn't know whippet was a kind of a dog.

No, I want to pet that dog.

But yeah, it's not surprising, but it's also weird.

Yeah, that shouldn't be.

Whippets shouldn't be a thing.

Jay Matt Nair

Don't do those.

Calvin

No.

Let's not do that.

I wear a thing on my face because that was what was happening when I was sleeping.

Jay Matt Nair

I don't

Calvin

want.

Jay Matt Nair

You were getting

Calvin

free.

Jay Matt Nair

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was happening free while you were sleeping.

I was high all night long.

Dude.

Dude.

Wow, did I sleep?

That wraps up today's episode of.

Greg Bach

This shouldn't be a

Jay Matt Nair

thing.

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