Accountability Is “Legislative Demagoguery” (Hour 2)

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Accountability Is “Legislative Demagoguery” (Hour 2)

Matenaer on Air · Thu Jul 31, 2025

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Dan Schaefer mentioned this when he was on yesterday and we didn't really have too much time to delve into it Wisconsin senior senator Ron Johnson yesterday.

He's not happy with a new measure that would kind of crack down on insider trading among our members of Congress.

Yeah Senator Josh Hawley drew up a bill banning the practice of again congressmen

Congress women being able to trade on insider trading Josh Hawley drew up a bill banning that practice, but boy that's landing with a thud Including from the president Donald Trump on social media called Josh Hawley a second-tier senator Playing right into the dirty hands of the Democrats.

I don't think real Republicans want to see their president who has had unprecedented success targeted

So, Rojo, we're gonna play a little clip from Wisconsin Senior Senator Ron Johnson talking about this measure that would crack down on our elected officials from using their insider information to trade stocks.

Calvin, can we play that clip, please, from Senator Ron Johnson?

Ron Johnson Clip

We make it very unattractive for people to step up the plate and run for office or potentially serve an office.

I tried hiring a retired CFO many years ago.

this after the pass of the stock act.

Would have been great.

I could have had somebody really expert in international taxation, that type of thing.

I could not find anybody willing to do it.

So this piece of legislation really, it's the legislative demagoguery.

We do have insider trading laws.

We have financial disclosure.

Trust me, we have financial disclosure.

The press pays attention to it.

So I don't see the necessity of this.

can imagine all kinds of unintended consequences.

Really?

You could relabel this law, quite honestly, the Career Politician Protection Act, because it'll make it so unattractive for people to give up their business, sell it.

They have to sell it.

Mm-mm.

Unless some ethics committee says, oh, no, there won't be a conflict of interest.

I mean, when we pass a tax law that lowers tax rates, we all benefit.

It's just inherent.

issue.

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When we pass tax cuts, we all benefit.

It's just inherent.

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Jane, that may be the greatest one minute 15 seconds, the most impactful, full of confessions I have ever heard come.

I mean, really, honestly, I don't know if I've ever heard in such a small amount of time, so much just

blatant honesty coming out of one elected official.

I mean,

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that was completely inadvertent.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

Because when you played this for me, we both saw two, we saw two different blaring things.

I want you to talk about what you.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

Well, okay, my question is he tried to hire a retired CFO.

Now, the measure that he was referring to that stock act, correct, was developed after the crash in 2008, right?

Yes.

And then wasn't

enacted into law until 2012.

But that was in response to what happened after the crash of 2008.

So Ron Johnson telling us that he couldn't find a former chief financial officer of a company

Which, from what I understand, is a pretty high-powered position if you're a company CFO.

Depending on your company, yeah, but you can make some pretty good

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buck being a CFO.

Exactly.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

So he couldn't find a retired CFO to work for him because he wasn't allowed to do insider trading?

Greg Bach (Cohost)

Yeah, because the stock act specifically talks about it's about transparency, it's about making sure we understand.

It aims at making the people capable of seeing how the elected officials make their money, essentially.

But isn't

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what he's saying, essentially, the reason to go into Congress is to make money, is to

Greg Bach (Cohost)

get rich.

That was my big blaring thing was that, you know, first of all, the whole CFO line basically said this, if this is true, which I don't think it is, but there was a man, I'll just call him a man,

former CFO sitting in his office saying, Hey, if it wasn't for the stock act, I would take the job, which to me is saying like, if I could insider trade, that'd be great, but I can't.

So I'm not going to.

Well, what's the point of doing this?

And the line about we're not making it attractive for people to run for office.

So what you, so what I hear from that is the people that you believe are running for office are seeking to enrich themselves.

There is no doubt that individuals in federally elected positions,

Become more wealthy over time look at Kristen cinema Bernie Sanders.

I think is worth ten million dollars now granted He's probably one of the quote poorer ones, right, but he's still worth way more than me But what he says something the effective we're not making it look attractive That's someone saying well I'd run for Congress, but I only make a hundred seventy four thousand dollars a year and get great health care I can't do anything else forget it and also

Where does it say you have to, I know you have to divest from your business.

Yes, or put it

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into a

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blind trust.

There are wait, but there's no, I don't believe there's a single law in the books that says you must sell your business off.

If you want to, you can, but I don't believe there's anything that says you have to know, you, for the time you're in office, you divest yourself.

Trump didn't sell all his businesses.

No,

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he

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did not at

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all.

His sons are still running his businesses.

So

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all of this.

Rojo

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didn't sell

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his business.

No.

And all of this being said is that he's searching for a reason not to support this, and every example he used basically just said out loud why some individuals go into politics in the federal levels.

They want to make money, and they want to use the information available to them to enrich themselves.

He didn't even say it as like a, oops, I shouldn't have said that.

He literally said,

This is the reason why I'm against this.

By the way, Josh Hawley as a, quote, second tier Republican Senator, the man raised a fist to the people who, who stormed the Capitol on January 6th.

Ask Derek Van Norton.

He probably saw him there doing that.

Cause Derek Van Norton was there, was there, but sorry, I didn't mean to go on there, but that's that, that line right there is like, it's the whole thing of, I think Josh Hawley is a rhino now.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

But that was yesterday.

Today, Josh Hawley had something else to say.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

11 hours ago, the article came out about the second-tier senator, because that's what Trump does.

He reacts, he lashes out, he makes a statement to the press, and that's what's the headline.

I get that.

We were used to that at this point.

45 minutes ago,

Josh Hawley reports to having a quote, good talk with the president.

Did he have a good talk?

Yeah, so maybe this will, that will help make this bill go into what the politicians call a drawer.

It will go into a drawer and we'll just forget about it.

Pretend it never happened.

Pretend it never happened.

And the one time Josh Hawley stood up for us.

I'm right.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

My God.

Well he crumbled like a cheap, I mean please.

And the other thing that jumped out at me on that,

Yes, there are allegedly already things in place that are supposed to police this.

But with their spending reports, their campaign finance reports and all that stuff, how many times have we had lawmakers go back and amend those reports after it was reported that they didn't go about things the right

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way?

Jane Matenaer (Host)

or they made money that hopes they forgot to include on there.

So that doesn't seem like what we have in place right now doesn't seem to have a whole lot of teeth.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

No, and I was, I was corrected on the live stream.

Thank you very much, PJ.

And I looked it up myself to, uh, Bernie Sanders is worth between 2.5 to 3 million dollars.

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He's practically a pauper.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

Well, yeah, exactly.

And honestly, that nowadays that's, that's the retirement fund.

Hopefully have a good couple who have worked their whole lives for 40 years and blah, blah, blah.

And we'll still have struggling moments in their lives.

But, uh, yeah, it, it, this whole notion, going back to the whole, um, uh,

Financial disclosures the way he said it to us.

Trust me.

They're fine.

No, don't say like it's a burden That's part of the gig you want to be a public servant you have to tell the public what you're about you must

Jane Matenaer (Host)

Disclose Sorry, that's kind of them.

Well today you have maybe we'll just get rid of that down the road and they want to have to those

burden some reporting things they have to do.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

And honestly, just do what Trump does.

Don't do them and see who comes after you because he didn't disclose his taxes.

He's still being audited, apparently.

But all they have to do is just not do something.

And we stand back and go, hey, you're supposed to do this.

They say no.

And we, the regular people, we don't have.

We don't have the power.

We don't have the power on a regular day.

We have the power at the voting booth.

Absolutely.

We should always exercise that and make yourself available to do that and go to my vote.wi.gov.

Let Ron Johnson know that maybe he shouldn't be able to enrich himself through lowering his own taxes and inside information.

Maybe he'd like to know that.

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I'm sure he would.

My vote.wi.gov.

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You actually took a little time off for yourself to go to the EAA last week.

What a difference a week makes, Brittany.

Last week you were sweltering to death in that incredible heat wave we had, and today it's like 30 degrees cooler than it was yesterday.

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

Yes, the relief has been amazing because...

was pouring water all over myself.

That tent heated up so fast.

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No, thanks.

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Yeah, it was rough, but, you know, it was fun.

It was worth it.

But now it seems like I was so excited for the cooler, more comfortable temperatures, and we just can't get a nice, good quality summer day with blue skies.

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Yeah,

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wildfire smoke is just kind of unbearable.

It's hard to breathe.

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Well, and I there was a report that just came out that I saw on Twitter about.

air quality reports.

And this is not good as of nine o'clock this morning.

Six Wisconsin cities are in the top 10 for worst air quality in the country, including Milwaukee, Beloit, Stockton, Traverse City, Waukesha, Rhinelander, Marquette, Madison, Houghton and Green Bay.

So again, these these wildfires in Canada, and I had really hoped

Obviously without hope yesterday because this was a huge line of storms that came across and I had hoped that they would get to the where they need them in in Canada and that didn't happen

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No, no it didn't Eastern Canada is expected to have some rain coming up soon, but Western Central not so much Areas that really really needed so a big drought severe drought in some areas I mean there's 70 active large wildfires from this high pressure system that we were looking forward to

is the reason you know it's so dry and drought and calm there now it's moving its way towards us just dragging that smoke at us and I was looking into it it's kind of pretty cool it's at 20,000 feet and it moves at 125 miles per hour.

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And we talked about this last year is this something you know with regard to wildfires and whatnot something and the smoke coming down from Canada that's just something we're going to probably be used to now that's something would just something that happens in our region.

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

Yeah, so that's the new norm Yay, we signed up for this unknowingly It really is and I was chatting with the Wisconsin DNR earlier this week And I was asking the same thing how unusual is this you know and the one thing that she was like it's earlier It's bigger.

Yep, you know.

Yep Yeah, we send she's like usually we send people over there to help we're doing that now now we've got more

already.

And it's just the efforts are just ongoing and ongoing.

And their season runs till September, wildfire season in Canada.

So we've got a ways to go.

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Yeah.

Was it two years ago or three years ago, the first time that that smoke moved into Wisconsin, because I'm 65 years old, that had never happened before.

I had never seen that happen before.

And now, as you said, Greg, unfortunately, apparently this is just going to be an annual thing.

SPEAKER_??

Yeah.

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

Yep.

Yep.

That was three years ago.

Um, you know, it started creeping into parts of northern Minnesota about 10 years ago or so.

But the fact that it's moving further south, more and more frequent, Illinois is starting to see it more and more often.

It's becoming the normal here.

Yeah.

It's not fun.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

It's just very off-putting.

I don't know.

Like, because it's essentially it's newer and I don't know how to say this.

I don't forget that it's happening.

I think what I thought was...

I was expecting it a few months ago, maybe like in May and June, and it didn't happen, so I thought, oh, okay, well, maybe it's not that bad.

It'll be a good summer.

And then I walked outside, I'm like, oh, it is misty foggy, weird outside, and it just, so it can just really happen any time during those months.

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

Yeah, so a lot of these fires were actually started by lightning strikes, so.

There's storm season started up, lightning strikes in the woods, it's remote area, they can't get to it.

It just blows out a proportion.

You've got the winds up there, tons of trees and stuff.

I mean, even today, no, we're not in a bad fire risk, but up north in our north woods, a moderate risk.

There's everywhere else, nothing.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

What do we got coming for the weekend, Brittany?

As far as weather-wise, stay out across the state.

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

Well, I hope the smoke will be gone by Saturday fingers crossed that it will be out of here It'll sure for sure be gone by Sunday I can guarantee you that and comfortable temperatures mid to upper 70s as we close out the week and into the weekend Dry up until about Monday night I think there's a chance for some showers and storms far north and then Tuesday a little bit more likely Monday and Tuesday war more widespread here for us,

Jane Matenaer (Host)

but no more no immediate 95s coming our way or anything like that

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

Oh, she's not saying that.

Yeah, next weekend.

Next weekend, it's going to be back into that high heat, high humidity.

All that is going to definitely return.

So this weekend, comfortable.

Next weekend, you'll be sweating again.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

So enjoy it while we got it.

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

the weather 180.

I

Greg Bach (Cohost)

don't know why you ask that question every time, Jane.

You never like the answer unless it's like mid December.

Like, are we going to get 95 days?

No, it's December.

You're fine.

Great.

Enjoy bone cracking cold instead.

But no, yeah, I just feel like don't don't ask the don't ask the Herald of the weather gods, Brittany Merlot.

It'll never be the news you want.

That's right.

I just refer to her as the Herald of the weather gods.

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

I love it.

I love it.

Here's the good news that with the humidity.

Ladies, everyone, you age slower.

It's better for your face than the wrinkles in the skin.

There's your positive.

There you go.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

She said that looking

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at

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me.

That's

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okay.

She said

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she was looking at me, but that's okay.

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Men, we just get old and withered over time and we take it, because that means we had a good life.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

Brittany Merleau is Civic Media's meteorologist.

She joins us every Thursday for a

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

little

Jane Matenaer (Host)

weather and wine.

Thank you so much, my friend.

Really

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

appreciate it.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

We will see you next week.

We have news coming up next.

And then we're going to talk all things sports with the Acme packing companies, Paul Noonan, except yesterday's game that never happened.

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Paul Noonan is here from the Acme packing company.

Good morning, sir.

How are you?

Paul Noonan (Guest from Acme Packing Company)

Hey, good morning.

Happy to be here.

And yes, that game did not exist.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

Yeah, we're just going to pretend it didn't happen or we're going to follow what the current administration and...

Greg Bach (Cohost)

Well, I proposed an idea, Paul.

First of all, I don't know what game you're talking about.

It was Monday, Tuesday, Thursday.

Wednesday didn't happen.

I feel this is me and I would like to propose this for baseball.

If you take a series but you don't sweep...

Whatever losses from that team like the Brewers lost yesterday.

See I said it I grow Doesn't count against the total standing count so like they're still ahead two games because even they took the series and that's what's important They didn't win yesterday, but they still took the series therefore they get the total victory of what it was sweepy It's simple mathematics everybody.

Do you understand me?

I can go with that

Jane Matenaer (Host)

The

Greg Bach (Cohost)

other way

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the

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other the other

Jane Matenaer (Host)

the other way to go about Paul noon and that we were just talking about is we're just going to be like the Trump administration and say they won.

Yeah.

Paul Noonan (Guest from Acme Packing Company)

They want to pick it up.

Yeah.

You know, Greg's idea is actually how these Savannah bananas do do innings.

You get one point for scoring more runs in an inning than the other team regardless of how many runs you actually score.

And so.

The last inning is always close.

The last inning runs count.

So like you can only get up by, I think a total of six maximum and then runs count.

That thing is crazy.

I like all the rules.

They have hilarious baseball should adopt some of them.

It's

Greg Bach (Cohost)

interesting.

You bring up the bananas really quick because that's what a player, I believe for the Phillies use them as an example when they were very upset about Mr. Jacob Mizoroski going to the Hall of Fame.

I'm not the Hall of Fame.

Sorry.

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

The

Greg Bach (Cohost)

all

Paul Noonan (Guest from Acme Packing Company)

star game.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

He was like, this is Savannah bananas out here.

I'm like,

Really?

I mean, yeah, five games is a short amount of time, but it's not the Savannah, but he's not like coming out on stilts.

Paul Noonan (Guest from Acme Packing Company)

Yeah, exactly.

I bet he could.

He's already 6'7.

He kind of is on stilts.

Yeah,

Greg Bach (Cohost)

exactly.

So the brewers are on fire.

I mean, before yesterday's loss, they had the best record in baseball.

And I've been saying this, and it's been a few weeks since the last time we spoke.

You know, whether it was you or JR Radcliffe or myself or other Brewers fans.

And in April, we had, or March, we had a much different outlook on what this team would be doing.

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

And I

Greg Bach (Cohost)

understand there's still another half of baseball we played.

But this is kind of, this is surprising, exciting, but like, wow, okay.

Paul Noonan (Guest from Acme Packing Company)

Yeah.

I think it's also important to state that this also isn't lucky.

One of the.

ways we track luck in baseball, is the team's underlying differential and run score.

And the Cubs have been sort of dominating that in the National League for the entire season.

And we should also, the Cubs are good to

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

throw

Paul Noonan (Guest from Acme Packing Company)

that out there.

But the Brewers have actually been catching up to them also in run differential.

Like they were like 70 runs behind them for most of the season.

And over the last month and a half, they actually briefly got within like five runs of them after the Cubs win yesterday.

It's like,

15 or something like that, but they're close enough that they are Functionally as good as the Cubs in underlying metrics and in record and so like they're not like this like scrappy go-getter anymore That's chasing the big bad.

They are their own big bad They are on par with every other good team in baseball Yankees Dodgers anybody you want to throw out there and They've just hit a lot of

just wins in terms of player developments.

Getting Andrew Vaughn and turning him into something really special from the White Sox has been just a revelation to Fix First Base for the time being.

Self Relic has turned into a legitimately dangerous outfielder from like a little tiny scrappy guy.

Honestly, the best team in baseball at turning little tiny scrappy guys into actual offensive forces is the Brewers.

There's no other team like them.

Like nobody else has this.

Their offense is a meat grinder.

The only weak spot in it really is Joey Ortiz, who's frankly not even that bad and still a defensive whiz at shortstop.

Just, and pitching of course, like the Cubs have made some trades up to the deadline to get some pitching because they've been sorely lacking.

They really only had three starters.

The Brewers have like 10.

On the pitching side, the Brewers are the best team in baseball.

They have so much depth.

They have so many guys who throw 100.

It's ridiculous.

So this is a true force of nature.

And they're real.

Like the one thing I could say to every Brewers fan out there is this is a real contender.

This is the best contender they've had in a long time.

And they've been good for like a decade now.

This is one of the best of those teams.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

So this is when I'm going to defer to you for your expertise, because you're talking analytics.

And that's one thing I wish my brain could understand, because you're like, run differential.

I'm like, yeah, they run when they hit the ball.

What is the change because this is not a matter of Oh, the bats woke up or the pitching is good because as you just stated, this is a combined team effort.

And this is work by Pat Murphy.

This is work by the front office.

This is work by Mark Antonizio as the owner.

What changed in those few months where we were literally saying this will be a 500 baseball team.

And that's and then whatever in that,

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

not every

Greg Bach (Cohost)

year can be great.

But to what seems like being called like the Red Hot Brewers right now, what changed?

as a team to make this happen.

So

Paul Noonan (Guest from Acme Packing Company)

it is, I think, mostly offensive driven.

Their pitching has been good.

But if you remember at the start of the season, like five starters were hurt.

So one thing that changed is those guys got healthy.

Woodruff is back in pitching well.

Like they added Mr. Roski, who's like adding an eight.

It's basically like trading for an ace without giving anything up.

But more than anything,

They had a bunch of holes in the offense to start the season.

Their third base, remember Vinnie Capra made this team out of camp.

One of the worst players in baseball this year.

Vinnie's fine, but they've actually, like Caleb Durbin has come on and he's not the greatest player ever, but he went from third, it went from third base being a black hole to being slightly better than average offensively.

That was big change number one.

Isaac Collins.

is statistically the most valuable hitter on this team.

A guy who literally came out of nowhere, who my good friend Spencer, who's on our podcast, actually really liked and I should listen to you more often, and has made it so there's really no holes in the outfield, and the acquisition of Andrew Vaughn.

So they had pretty good first base production when Rhys Hoskins was healthy, when Lauer was healthy, but Vaughn...

That, getting him was a steal.

Like, I don't know if people know how good Andrew Vaughn has been.

It's only been 16 games, I think, with the Brewers.

16 games, he's basically been the best hitter in baseball.

Like, he has played at an MVP level after spending his entire career with the White Sox and being basically terrible.

It's...

Sometimes these things are like little small sample size like, oh, he'll probably turn into a pumpkin next week.

And maybe he will.

But one thing I really like to do is steal players from awful teams.

The Rockies and the White Sox are two of the worst organizations in sports.

And if you look at Andrew Vaughn's profile, there's a chance this might actually stick because

He had a big problem swinging at pitches outside the zone with the White Sox.

He swung at about 36% of pitches outside the zone.

The Brewers have got that down to 22.

And when he swings at a pitch in the zone, he makes contact 90% of the time.

And it's hard contact.

So with the White Sox so far this year, which he played most of the season with, he struck out 43 times and he walked seven times.

With the Brewers so far in his 16 games, he struck out seven times and walked seven times.

So he's walked as much with the Brewers in 16 games as he did with the White Sox the entire first half of the season.

I think they actually may have fixed him for real, which never happens mid-season.

We made him a real boy.

Seriously.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

Well

Jane Matenaer (Host)

done,

Greg Bach (Cohost)

Gepetto.

If you're just joining us, we're talking to Paul Nunez on Matt and Aaron there.

He is the Acme sports writer.

And also I want to, I've been meaning to do this more often because yes, you have a podcast, Milwaukee's tailgate brewer podcast.

It is a great breakdown of all the news of the brewers.

And it helps, it helps me because like, I love baseball, but the numbers and the statistics and all that kind of hit me in the face sometimes, but you guys make it very digestible.

I appreciate that.

So go and find that where you find your podcast.

And, uh, yeah, I mean, it just feels like right now there's not something that can make this team fall apart immediately.

Like something can happen.

There's no doubt.

But like, I feel like so many years before that it's like, Oh, the pitching falls apart.

That's why you fall apart.

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

Oh,

Greg Bach (Cohost)

the hitting falls apart.

But what you're saying is like the puzzle pieces are coming together and that's much more exciting.

So much great things to watch over the next few weeks.

Yeah.

And what I love about this

Jane Matenaer (Host)

too, I think is that it started off, the season started off just kind of like

We'll play.

It's not going to be great.

It'll be fine.

But then to see them turn into this, it's really exciting.

It is.

Paul Noonan (Guest from Acme Packing Company)

It really is.

And there's so many surprises and nobody projected them to be this good.

No preseason projection had them this good.

Some of them had it was fringe playoff contenders, but they've just had so many things work out.

I think it's really a testament to their player development and the front office.

that they've managed to create the stuff and just create so many winners like Isaac Collins and get Fralick into a spot where he's actually a dangerous hitter.

They really seem to know what they're doing at this point.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

Paul Noonan is our guest in the time we have left.

Paul, let's talk a little bit about the Packers because Packers training camp is underway.

Paul Noonan (Guest from Acme Packing Company)

Yeah, it's been kind of exciting so far.

There's been a good amount of drama.

So Elton Jenkins is going to like the place center this year after playing mostly guard some tackle.

He's kind of the Swiss army knife for the offensive line.

He is not happy because centers are paid less than guards and tackles.

And he did just get a new deal a couple of years ago, but he wants more money.

So we'll see if they do anything there, but he did report in his playing, which is good.

But the offensive line has been made to run a couple of

of extra laps so far in training camp.

They have had some issues.

Rashid Walker in particular, hopefully they get that together.

And also want to mention Nate Hobbs is a cornerback that we acquired from the Raiders in the off season.

He is likely to be our starting slot cornerback, the guy who covers the little guys that run in the middle of the field.

He's been tackling people too hard.

He may have...

It's been kind of a love hate thing.

They told him to calm down, but keep an eye on him as a potentially like hard-hitting enforcer type once the season actually starts.

He officially did not cause running back Marshawn Lloyd's injury, but he unofficially maybe sort of did.

And so Hobbs has got to keep an eye on.

He's a pretty good player, historically.

He's good for the Raiders.

He's good in the slots.

But you may have a bit of a character on your hands with him once the season starts.

And honestly, the Packers...

I do think benefit when they have at least one or two guys on the defense who are sort of unreasonable thumpers.

I love that.

It's going to be the name of

Jane Matenaer (Host)

my album, I think unreasonable.

Miscellaneous Off-Topic Commenter in Studio

Jane and the

Jane Matenaer (Host)

unreasonable thumpers

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like

Jane Matenaer (Host)

that.

There's potential there.

Paul Newton is with the Acme packing company.

He joins us every other Thursday to talk all things sports.

As Greg said, check out his podcast.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

Milwaukee's.

Uh, tailgate podcast, uh, where you find your podcast.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

Thank you

Greg Bach (Cohost)

so much.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

All

Paul Noonan (Guest from Acme Packing Company)

the podcast places.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

Yes.

Well, you will see you in a couple.

When we return, we're going to wrap it up with this.

It shouldn't be a thing today.

The terminator bunny edition.

Stay close.

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Jane Matenaer (Host)

Good morning and welcome back to Matt Nair on air, Jane Matt Nair, Greg Bach, sweet Calbee coming to you from our studio at Radio Park in Racine.

Join us, call her text at 855-752-4842.

You can leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube and what used to be Twitter tomorrow is the 1st of August.

I hate to be the one to tell

Greg Bach (Cohost)

you.

There's like too many emotions happening right there.

It's the classic thing.

Well, I think State Fair starts today.

It does.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

State Fair

Greg Bach (Cohost)

is starting today.

And that's the traditional end of summer, even though it's not the end of summer.

But still, if you're in Wisconsin.

First

Jane Matenaer (Host)

day of August tomorrow.

And we have a busy, busy week for you coming up next week.

Shaly Pittman is going to be here.

Beyond the Cheese is set for Monday.

We are going to talk to the Poppy Bakery.

Brittany Merlot (Meteorologist)

Very

Jane Matenaer (Host)

excited about that.

Todd, all but will be joining us.

We're trying to finagle.

Civic Media's Jeannie have just about everything Terry Barr for next week.

She works on wonderful pieces that are very Wisconsin centric.

Joe's Apecky is going to be joining us next week.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

It's been a spell.

It's

Jane Matenaer (Host)

been way

Greg Bach (Cohost)

too

Jane Matenaer (Host)

long.

Way too long since we talked to Joe.

Darren Van Ruden will be here as well.

I always

Greg Bach (Cohost)

screwed up his name.

Did I get it right today?

No, no, no.

You got it absolutely.

It's Darren Von Ruden.

Von Ruden.

But it doesn't matter.

When you started, I'm like, you said Darren Von.

And I just heard Darren.

I'm like, we what?

Jane Matenaer (Host)

Darren Von Ruden will be here.

He joins us the first Wednesday of every month.

He is a dairy farmer in Wisconsin.

We're

Greg Bach (Cohost)

going

Jane Matenaer (Host)

to talk to Darren coming up next week.

Right now though, Calvin, it is 10.54.

That means it's time for.

Ron Johnson Clip

This shouldn't

Jane Matenaer (Host)

be

Ron Johnson Clip

a

Jane Matenaer (Host)

thing.

If you ever find a thing you think should not be, send it into Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S, janesaysatcivicmedia.us Calvin found this one in popular science, Margarita Basi with the byline.

The headline reads, Robot bunnies deployed in Florida to fight invasive pythons.

Researchers have found a creative new solution

to track down the snakes.

Now, to clarify, we kind of love the robot bunnies.

It's the Burmese pythons that shouldn't be a thing in Florida.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

And also, to those Burmese pythons, we know you don't want to be there.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

Exactly.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

And we're sorry that someone put you

Jane Matenaer (Host)

there.

And then released you.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

I also do want people putting invasive species animals

That's what I shouldn't be a thing

Jane Matenaer (Host)

as

Greg Bach (Cohost)

well.

That

Jane Matenaer (Host)

also should not be

Greg Bach (Cohost)

a thing.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

Burmese pythons, one of the world's largest snake and a huge invasive species in southern Florida.

They have been trying to fight this since the 1970s when the snakes were first introduced either accidentally

Greg Bach (Cohost)

or

Jane Matenaer (Host)

intentionally through the exotic

Greg Bach (Cohost)

pet trade.

Florida, of course, was intentional.

Yes,

Jane Matenaer (Host)

of course, it was intentional.

Pythons have become the top predators in South Florida and they have a really hard time tracking them down.

So they're coming up with creative ways to lure them out into the open.

And by creative, they are using robot bunnies.

Your bunny.

Here's the

Greg Bach (Cohost)

next

Jane Matenaer (Host)

thing.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

All right.

Does anybody either you, Jane, Calvin listeners, watchers on the live stream, anyone else getting a real acme slash looney tunes feel about this whole thing?

like there's somewhere there's just a boxes of it just says acme robot bunnies and someone's gonna pull the wrong cord and the cave is and it's gonna be like nine feet tall me and just and then the snake just runs away yeah yeah just this there is a visual component out the the the story will be in the show notes

I don't accuse snakes of being the smartest creatures on earth, but you look at it, and you're like, oh, this isn't.

When you think robot bunny, you have an image in your head.

Take that image out, put it in the washing machine, and that's what the robot bunny looks like.

Do

Jane Matenaer (Host)

you think that it will fool a Burmese python?

Greg Bach (Cohost)

Oh, I'm sure, but it will fool it in the same sense of it will think it's just a thing, and not like, oh, it's a bunny.

It will be like, oh, there's an object I can go.

I think

Jane Matenaer (Host)

I might be able to

Greg Bach (Cohost)

eat.

Exactly, yeah, yeah.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

So it's not.

Really bunny-like is

Greg Bach (Cohost)

what

Jane Matenaer (Host)

you're saying.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

It's bunny, but it doesn't look like it's it's bunny-esque.

It's bunny.

It's not bunny a date Jay.

It's bunny-ish

Jane Matenaer (Host)

Robot bunnies don't need to be fed Okay pens don't need to be clean they're waterproof and they're decked out with a motion sensor camera that pings researchers if a python approaches So if we can see a statistically significant number of pythons coming to check out these robot rabbits

This would be a success because right now, pythons are really good at hiding remains to be seen whether the pythons will be tricked by the fake bunnies.

Greg Bach (Cohost)

Another thing, too, is if they're if they're smart and able to hide, they're eventually going to realize the quote bunny that doesn't move

Jane Matenaer (Host)

is not necessarily the bunny

Greg Bach (Cohost)

of my dreams.

Yeah, exactly.

The bunny of you.

Stop it.

Stop writing songs about this.

Yeah, I just look.

Hey, look.

Do what you need to do.

It's fine.

South Florida, my heart's with you.

You're trying.

But this just, I just see porky pig at the end going, that's all folks.

And that's it.

That's the end of the story.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

We'll try and keep an eye on this and let you

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know

Greg Bach (Cohost)

how

Jane Matenaer (Host)

this robot bunny effort goes in South Florida.

That wraps up today's episode of.

Ron Johnson Clip

This shouldn't be a thing.

Jane Matenaer (Host)

Thank you, Greg and Calvin and all of our engineers.

Without you, nothing works.

And thank you most of all for calling and for texting and for listening and for watching on the live stream.

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Jane Matenaer (Host)

I hope you find some joy today and you get the chance to share it.

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