Get Yourself A Thing Of Rings (Hour 2)

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Dr. Kristen Lierly joining us after the 9.30 news.

It's been too long.

It has been too long.

Big story happening up in the Green Bay area.

Scott Suchek is the co-owner of a residence in Sturgeon Bay along with his wife, Stephanie.

Stephanie

is the chair of the GOP party of Dork County and the former chair of the eighth congressional district GOP, and he has been arrested with possession of child pornography.

This is making some waves in the Green Bay area and further up north, Dr. Lyrely will be joining us after the 9.30 news to talk about that a little bit.

There are many, many other things to cover with Dr. Lyrely.

So that will be happening after 9.30.

Hour number two, he normally joins us on Fridays.

He's got a little getaway he's taken.

You know, everyone needs a holiday getaway.

That's a Billy Joel reference.

I just watched that documentary.

Madonna had a song about that.

Holiday!

Dan Schaefer is going to be here in the 10 o'clock hour.

Not going to be able to make it on Friday again.

He's got a little conflict.

So we will be doing lots of recombobulating with Dan Schaefer, including a revisit of something we talked about yesterday, the Bob Donovan story.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah,

it's just

it's just frustrating.

We'll talk about more later.

But yes,

that will be coming up with Dan Schafter after after 10 o'clock.

Also an hour in number two as we always do we will lighten it up for the last half an hour of the show for Audio Sorbet after 10 30.

Chance to take a break clear out our brains get away from politics have a couple laughs.

It's I'm calling it the official motto of audio sorbet audio sorbet we clean your ears with fun We

need that I know sure There's more matting air on air merch waiting in the wings audio sorbet today.

We're gonna talk about summer jobs.

You had as a kid

Yeah, yeah, and and when we get to will please feel free to send us texts and

Emails voice note if you want

leave a voice note.

Let us know and we'll

We'll reference them all when we get to there at 1035.

But the conversation for us before we got on the air when you asked the question was funny to me because I realized that I didn't have the, you know, that there's a certain experience in the world of summer jobs I didn't have.

So yeah, it'll be interesting.

I'll be interested to see the variations because, you know, we have listeners of all ages.

And all

over the state.

Exactly, exactly.

So yeah, feel free.

To text us, your summer jobs, leave a voice note by getting on your Civic Media app, which you can download right now, put it on your device, and you can get a hold of us any time.

And you can absolutely, like say you win some baseball tickets.

Yes, for example.

And you want to take pictures of you and your friends at said baseball game.

You can do that and send it to the Civic Media app.

It's really simple.

Super, super easy.

Well, wrap up the show as we always do with this.

Shouldn't be a thing.

Today it is Smile.

You're on camera edition.

Stay tuned for that.

And as always, if you ever have a thing you think should not be, send it into Greg and me.

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Want to start off with this though, Hans Breitenmoser has been a guest on our show.

He's a regular on mornings with Pat Critello from six to nine a.m.

across the network.

And he appears in an article today in the Milwaukee Journal.

Sentinel Hans Breitenmoser is a multi-generational farm, a dairy farm owner.

And this is from Chris Kenning in JS Online.

Farmers from Wisconsin to California hit by Trump's immigration raids.

What is next?

Farmers say few native-born residents will pick fruit or tend cows.

The agriculture worker visa program can be expensive, tough to navigate and limited.

And they say Congress has failed to act on this oak shock for years.

And this is a problem that

We have spoken about on this show for at least a year at

least

longer at least Hans has spoken about it on patch show.

We've talked to Darren Von Ruden a monthly catch up, which he'll be here next Wednesday

because

the first first Wednesday of the month he's here to give us the lowdown on everything going on the farming community in Wisconsin.

And it's it's just another it's another instance, another example of, well, we we told you so.

This was going to happen.

and your universal, elegant solution, if you will.

That's the new way we call a stupid idea here.

Thanks, Ron

Johnson.

An elegant solution is just to say, hey, Americans, go get a job.

Go pick fruit.

They're all

in the fields.

You'll feel good.

Now those opportunities are open to you.

which they weren't before because all those immigrants were stealing those jobs.

So now America, the fields are open for you.

They're not lining

up.

And this just in, there are no lines at all these fields for all the work available because Americans aren't going to do those jobs.

And this to me is yet again, another example of how this administration does not look at consequences.

They don't look further down the road.

What if I do a what is B if B happens then what is C?

And I think we see this in all areas of the Trump administration where they do not look ahead to what this action will mean

Well to be fair, it's I mean, it's expected.

This is a this is an administration run by a man who bankrupted a casino and

several casinos and other kind of work at

that and

What really has coasted him along is his name as a brand as a valued brand Which is whether you like it or not that is the case the Trump name is a valued brand whether you like him or dislike him We talk about him and that gives him value so

coasting his business ventures along on that has served him well and he's using that same, that same mode of thinking in this.

It's never, it's never about, Hey, we want to do this project and our outcome is X. Let's take a look at all of the, the reports.

Let's speak to experts.

Let's run some models.

Let's, and then say in three years time, we want to reach X. So it's all like, and even if it was something I didn't agree with Jane, I'd be like, all right, that's longterm planning.

I get that.

But it's never that, it's that we're going to, we are going to deport 3,000 people

a day.

A day,

sorry, I

almost said a month.

A day.

A day.

And we're not gonna have any sort of backup plan.

No.

There's no back

because

it's all perfect.

It's all perfect.

It's gonna take it's gonna be great.

We're nothing's gonna go wrong Jane.

Nothing's wrong

56 year old Hans Brighton Moser's parents emigrated to Wisconsin in 1968 from Switzerland to raise dairy cows on a small farm.

Now Brighton Moser says in today's Milwaukee Journal Sentinel he relies on about a dozen foreign-born workers mainly from Mexico

to help him operate his 460 cow farm, quote, if it wouldn't be for immigrants, my dairy farm wouldn't run, unquote.

Well, and also when did his parents come here?

68.

Yeah.

He is also the child of immigrants.

In both situations, whether we're talking about Hans's parents or we're talking about the individuals who are working on the farm with him, we're talking about people who are doing exactly.

And I, I mentioned this.

to somebody last week, and I can't remember who, but they're doing exactly what America asked us to do.

They're coming here, they're working hard, they're helping their family.

Setting up

businesses.

They're not, as far as I know, Hans isn't hiring any mastermind criminals who are running an underworld operation, but maybe, I mean, I don't know, I've never met Hans, but you know, I mean, everything that's happening in this story to me is everything they wanted people to do.

Come to the country, work hard, do it quote the right way, whatever that is, it's always changing.

This is a beautiful story of immigrants helping immigrants.

So, here we are.

Yeah,

here we are.

Using people who just want to, who are in many cases paying taxes as undocumented folks, by the way.

Yes.

Just look that up.

Google the amount of money that undocumented folks pay in taxes because they don't want to be seen as taking.

So they add to the economy with their work.

with their money into the community they live in.

They buy groceries.

I feel like I'm having a 101 conversation right here, a 101 intro to immigration.

But that's the conversation I seem like we always have to have, because everything they do goes against the most basic logic.

Yes, these are illogical moves.

Seems to me the Department of Agriculture estimates that of the 2.6 million people working on US farms almost 42% lack legal status.

Farmers say few native-born Americans will pick fruit or tend cows.

The foreign ag workers visa program can be expensive and limited.

Farmers say Congress has failed for decades, decades to pass comprehensive immigration reforms.

This has been a can that's been kicked down the road forever.

Forever.

And we had a deal.

Yes.

We had a deal.

Yes, we did last year.

And Donald Trump wanted to use it to run on it.

And so he scuttled the deal.

And this is where we are.

Yeah.

And if you want to go back and go to civicmedia.us last shows and go back to the interview we did with Felipe Medina to Torres.

No.

No, Felipe Torres Medina.

About his book, America Let Me In, a Choose Your Own Immigration Story.

I have read it.

I enjoyed it.

Great deal.

And he breaks down in very clear details on just how difficult the immigration is.

It's difficult for everybody.

I mean, if you are European rich,

and connected.

It's not as difficult, but it's still

a lot of there's still a lot of hoops.

There are

if you are a poor person coming to this country to live a better life and work and make money.

It is it is debilitatingly hard.

You have to work and you're here and it's anywhere from 15 to 20 to 25 years to get the to get your citizenship to get your papers in

order.

Yeah.

So

This is these individuals will come here who want to just make a better life should be applauded and they're doing the good work and they're doing it to help us and their families and Again, this is a basic conversation that if I put it on a whiteboard in front of nine year olds They'd be like this doesn't make sense.

It's

been a big

flip on the issue of immigration in this country a recent Gallup poll has found 79% 79% of US adults now say immigration is good for the country

Well, congratulations, 79%.

Our elected representatives will not care.

35% say they approve of Trump's handling of the issue, but 79% of US adults now say immigration is good for the country.

And I can only imagine that some in that 79% were at some of those rallies where they held up science saying mass deportations now without again.

looking thoroughly at the issue and the ramifications of these decisions.

And going back to Philippe's book, I want to make, I forgot to make the point is that to your, to your point of, it's something that's been kicked down the road for years.

He makes a point of talking about that.

This is not a Republican thing as far as the not solving the issue.

This is a joint failure on the part of Congress.

Absolutely.

For decades.

For decades.

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It's the Dr. Lyrely show.

Thank

you.

I think it's actually called the Dr.

Kristen.

I'm sorry.

It's the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show.

I serve that volleyball up.

Too hard, I believe.

I felt like I

got hit in the forehead by that one.

I

sprung that

on you, and I apologize.

Yeah, the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show.

On Saturdays and Sundays.

At 3 p.m.

There you go.

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Check it out.

She is joining us after the 9.30 news.

It should be Dr. Lyrely presents.

I'll suggest that when we just... Yes, there is a big story that hit...

yesterday that's causing some waves in the Green Bay area.

The husband of Stephanie Succek, the chair of the Republican Party of Dora County and former chair of the Eighth Congressional District, has been arrested for possession of child pornography.

Dr. Lyle Lee will be joining us after 9.30 to talk about that.

Hour number two.

And Schaefer will be here for some Reconbobulation.

Dan Schaefer, Civic Media's political editor, also the creator of the Reconbobulation area.

Lots of things we're going to kick around with him.

So stay tuned for that.

And also very end of the show, towards the end of the show, last half hour for Audio Sorbet.

We're talking about summer jobs.

Start thinking about what you did as a teenager, as a kid.

What were your kid's summer jobs?

That will be audio sorbet a little bit later on.

Brian from Green Bay texting in early on WGBW.

My summer job was winning tickets from radio shows.

I missed that job.

Well, you know, Friday, we're hiring sort of, I guess, free ticket Friday.

You have your chances, many chances throughout the day.

Speaking of free

ticket Friday.

What a segue.

Jim from Brookfield just texted us.

Good morning, Jim.

Good morning, Jane, Greg and Calvin.

My wife and I were ecstatic Friday when we learned we had won the free ticket Friday contest.

We are going to be going to Amfam Field today with two diehard baseball fans for the afternoon Cubs game, considering that we're getting steady rain in southeast Wisconsin.

I'm sure glad Amfam has a roof.

Thank you, Civic Media for the tickets.

Jim from Brookfield, you are so welcome, Jim.

Thank you.

for listening and for being a supporter of Civic Media.

We really, really appreciate it.

Jim, I'm going to ask you a favor, buddy.

I'm going to ask that if you feel comfortable, this is if you feel comfortable enough, take a picture of you and your friends and you can send that picture through the Civic Media app.

We'd love to see

it.

Great time you were having.

Those seats are amazing.

They are club level seats, three hundreds, which means they're cushy soft.

There's private bathrooms,

its

own staircase to enter.

It's one of those things where you have to be like, here's my ticket.

I'm so exclusive.

Exactly.

And then it's just a really fun time.

And let's face it, the brewers are the hottest team in baseball right now.

I believe they might have the best record.

I gotta check those standings.

Everything

changes.

They're

pretty, I mean, they're right

there with the Cubs, aren't they?

Well, they're two games above the Cubs as of the past

two games

because, but I'm talking about the best.

I'm talking about the best record in all of baseball.

Yeah, let me see here.

Yeah, it looks like, uh, yes, they have the best record in baseball.

64 wins, 43 losses.

And yeah, there are two games ahead of the Cubs.

And yes, Jane, have they won this series?

They have.

Cause they won last night.

They won last night.

Handily.

Uh, but we don't want just the series.

We want another sweep.

That would make many sweeps.

That would make many happy fans.

Yeah, I'd make me a very happy.

I think there would be a lot of folks.

Yes.

Jane, what if people just are like, I want to win some tickets.

I want to be like Jim from Brookfield.

What do they

do?

So easy.

Yeah.

So easy, Greg Bach.

You go to wherever you get your apps, go to your app store, search for Civic Media, C-I-V-I-C Civic Media, download said Civic Media app.

It's absolutely free.

Pun.

And it could.

but probably won't change the course of your entire life.

But it could change the course of your Wednesday.

It could change the course of your Friday if you win tickets.

So yes, every Friday, free ticket Friday across the network, you have five chances on Fridays to get entered for a four pack of tickets, club level seats with the Milwaukee Brewers.

But again, you have to enter on the app.

Yes.

So this coming Friday, starting with Pat Krightlow from six to nine, he will have a keyword for you to text in via the app.

We have a different word.

Tom Hartman will have one 11 to two, then Todd from two to four and Maggie Dawn from four to six free ticket Fridays.

Super easy.

A lot of fun.

And it's going to be a good time.

And yeah, we're very, we're very excited to hear from all the people who are entering and winning.

It's really, I just, I don't know.

Baseball is great.

I still need to go

to a game.

I know you love baseball.

You better get on the line for some of these tickets or you're going to miss out.

I feel like it.

Yeah.

We're

halfway through the season.

Um, and excuse me.

And yeah, I just need to get to a game.

I need to enjoy the time because yeah, it's it's ridiculous that I haven't gone to a game.

But

I

will.

I will.

I will.

And Jim just responded back.

He says, I'll get a good picture, Greg.

Stay tuned.

Thanks, Jim.

Thank you, Jim.

We appreciate that.

And we'd love to see it.

And that way we feel like we're a part of the part of the experience.

Exactly.

Super easy download the Civic Media app.

And a lot of times, too, we've had statewide text to win contests, which some with some pretty great prizes.

Yes, we've given out money.

We've given out new mattresses.

We've given out some really great stuff.

We gave away trips where we gave you gas money too.

That to me is like the sign of a great contest.

We want to make sure you get home.

Exactly.

Make

sure you text us when you get home and text us on the Civic Media app.

That's another segue.

Boom.

And wear your seatbelt.

Yeah,

exactly.

We have news coming up next.

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Good morning, my friend.

How are you?

I'm fine.

How are you guys?

We're good.

We're good.

Lots going on, busy, busy show.

Dan Schaefer going to be joining us in hour number two for some recombobulation.

But we wanted to start off with a story that's breaking in the Green Bay area that did get picked up by some national outlets, but I think it's worth sharing.

This is from the Green Bay Press Gazette.

Sturgeon Bayman charged with 10 counts of possession of child pornography.

Scott Suchek was booked into the Dork County jail July 24th.

He was released on bail the next day at $10,000.

He is the husband of a woman who is the chair of the Republican Party of Dork County and the former chair of the Eighth Congressional GOP.

Granted, he has been charged.

He's still innocent until proven guilty, but this is making some waves up there, I understand.

It is making waves and there's so much more to this story.

In fact, this is not his first go-round with concerns about child pornography.

He was investigated in 2009 and somehow that appears to have fallen through the cracks.

So this is a known problem.

It's been a known problem with this fella for quite some time.

And if I'm not mistaken too, and I think you posted it, there was a comment from

Someone of Merit commented and then deleted the comment about, hey, let's just be cognizant of the family.

They didn't know what was going on.

They're basically making claims about the, and I'm not saying the family knew anything, but basically it was this statement of, hey, let's just calm it down because we don't know about the family.

It's like, no, we need to talk about this.

And then he deleted the comment.

Yeah, to be really fair this is not something that his wife Stephanie should be held accountable

for

I mean we our hearts go out to her

I can't imagine

how she's

suffering

and in fact she has since filed for divorce I think just yesterday so

this is

this is terrible it tears families apart obviously it's terrible for communities but

What you're talking about is Joel kitchens who is the assembly rep up in the dork County area Had commented about this and I found that he commented and then he deleted it And I found that very curious that an elected official would weigh in so quickly with this comment.

Well, and that was a thing is

I want to be clear that in no way shape or form do I think his wife or family had anything to do with this.

But I felt like the tone of the comment was such as, hey, hey, hey, hold off, hold off.

It's like, don't say anything.

We need the police to do their job.

We need to find out the information.

And it's sort of like, of course we have sympathy, love, empathy and all those things for the wife and the family.

So,

I just like, when I saw that message, I'm like, ah, you don't need to say anything.

And then he deleted it.

I'm like, okay, good, but it's still out there.

The internet doesn't forget.

Well, and that makes it look worse.

Yeah.

It absolutely

makes

it look worse.

And you know what else makes it look worse?

The Republican Party of Door County has been very anti-child pornography for quite some time.

In fact, I was at Sister Bay Fall Fest, which is a huge...

celebration.

I was part of the parade last year and the Republican Party of Dork County was tossing out candy for kids that was wrapped in a very bizarre anti-child pornography message.

Yes, that was sponsored by Gays Against Groomers.

It's almost like they're doubling down on the other side of it.

Like, don't look here!

Look over here.

We are against child pornography while it's actually happening with members in the party.

Well, and that has been a trope from the right for so long now.

Remember all the panic about drag queens story hour and drag queens and drag queens are targeting our children and oh my god, the drag queens.

Oh my god, they're coming for our children.

You know what?

If you check arrest.

records and records of people who have been charged.

You're not going to find any drag queens on that list.

You know who's going to find on that list?

Law enforcement officers, clergy from all across the board, all across the board.

I follow a woman on Twitter called Bex.

She keeps a running weekly list of the men

who have either been charged or convicted of sex crimes against children and women.

It's far more prevalent than people want to admit, and it's not drag queens.

And it's right in our backyard.

Literally, it is right in my backyard.

And it ties into the greater narrative of what's happening with the Epstein files and Donald Trump and all of the distractions that he is throwing out.

I mean, he's throwing everything at this.

Yes.

And he's having other people throw everything at this to deflect from what's actually happening here.

These are very serious crimes.

I don't care who is in the Epstein files.

I want all of that information except for the things that need to be redacted, you know, to protect people's safety.

But that needs we don't need to protect any of these potential perpetrators.

Right.

You know, I keep hearing people say, well, then Bill Clinton is going to be exposed.

Well, if Bill Clinton is in the Epstein files, bring it.

He should be exposed.

Yes.

Bring it.

Yeah, that is something we've been talking about for quite a while now is like, I don't care who's on that file.

I don't care who it is.

It's because when we're talking about this discussion, while it is, it's weird because this topic can, it skirts the line of horror and salaciousness because it's the ultimate of the worst gossip of who's on the list.

But at the end of the conversation, it always has to be about the justice for those who were affected.

by these perpetrators, the families, the survivors, they deserve justice.

And I feel like

In a lot of the conversations, it's almost an afterthought.

Their justice is an afterthought.

We want to see the list.

Well, why do you want to see the list?

Do you want to see the list?

So then there are things after that like arrest and prosecutions and judgment and jailing or whatever the state allows.

But I think that's something that always needs to be at the forefront of this conversation is that

If you truly care about this, the thing you care about more than anything is the justice for the survivors and the family who are affected by these individuals.

That to me is the end-to-all-be-all to the conversation.

If you're just joining us, Dr. Kristen Lierly is our guest here on Matt Nair on air, and we are talking about a story in the Green Bay Press Gazette that hit yesterday in March.

A Sturgeon Bay police officer using an internet crimes against children task force

identified a suspect in Dora County.

Uploading and downloading child abuse materials turns out that suspect 56 year old Scott Suchick of Sturgeon Bay who is married.

to the chair of the Republican Party of Dork County and the former chair of the Eighth Congressional District of the GOP.

I did want to share something, Dr. Lierly.

You had just mentioned, you know, it should be about justice for the victims, especially when we're talking about the Epstein case.

This blows my mind and it shouldn't.

It shouldn't surprise me.

But Kevin O'Leary, the guy from Shark

Tank.

Oh, God.

for whatever reason, Kevin O'Leary is making the rounds on cable news and he weighed in yesterday about the Epstein situation.

If you cared about the victims, you wouldn't drag these women back into the limelight.

They don't want you to help them anymore.

He was asked, how do you know that?

O'Leary says, I know with certainty, he's asked, so you've spoken to victims saying they don't want justice pursued.

O'Leary, I've spoken to no one.

Don't you think if it was you, you would rather get on with your life?

No,

no,

says the

says

the questioner.

If it were me, I would want justice pursued.

It makes me so angry that men put themselves in the position of a victim of a sexual assault victim and that you can speak for them and you haven't even talked

to them, but you're going to put yourself in the place of the victims and speak on their behalf.

That kind of arrogance is infuriating.

I don't think people understand what it takes for people to speak up, for victims to speak up.

As an OBGYN doctor, when I am in a room one-on-one with someone,

just for them to tell me after i've earned their trust takes an incredible amount of courage because they bury this so

deep in

the shame the pain.

The fear all of that that goes along with this it is so hard to come forward so the people who have been able to come forward.

Just wow and thank you but we know that there are so many more people there who.

who haven't been able to.

So it is, Kevin, buddy, you're missing the point.

Stay

out of it.

Stay in your lane, bro.

Stay out, get a uterus and get back to me, then we can talk about it.

And as a resident guy here, I can speak to two things I know about that statement.

One, a lot of guys think that when they speak in such a manner, using this kind of tone, this theme when it comes to...

this conversation, we think we're helping.

We think- He thinks he's being an ally.

He thinks he's standing up for the privacy and the safety and the overall well-being of these survivors.

He thinks, well, we don't want, I don't want them to be hurt.

Now, I will say this, I've heard from more than one person in the Twitter sphere and social media, are you on that list?

That's for another conversation.

Is he on the list?

Is he trying to shut it down?

Because that's a,

Fair point, because the list is large, but more so to the fact.

And the other thing too, I think this speaks to a very American thing of, we don't need to talk about this.

It's not something

we need to discuss.

And this goes back to, again, I can see Kevin Leary and I've talked to men like this, who say, well, you know, I have women in my life and no woman has ever told me that she was sexually assaulted.

That doesn't mean what you think it does.

That was a conscious effort on their part then.

Yes,

exactly.

They don't trust you.

They don't trust you.

And they don't feel like you will listen to them without judgment.

If women have a hard time talking to another woman and OBGYN about her sexual assault, what makes you think she's going to come to you as a straight male and share this horrible experience?

Get over yourself.

Also, please cable news stop hiring this guy to be on your panels because he's on he's on Fox MSNBC CNN This man is the host of a game show and I know we love our game show hosts in this country apparently But

that makes them and now experts on everything apparently.

Yeah, I'm every time I see him I'm infuriated because he's always speaking from that thing of you don't understand I've seen some life.

I know what things are about This is what I think and this is therefore because I think it it's right.

It's it's malarkey guys.

It's malarkey

Some people must like it.

Yeah, you're absolutely right.

You are absolutely.

I mean,

that's why they keep bringing

it

in.

I can't explain it.

That's not my style.

They haven't called me.

For me either.

We're available.

Yeah.

Anytime after 11, Central Time.

We're

available.

Jake Tapper.

I'm here.

Give us a jingle.

We're always ready.

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of the appropriately named Dr. Kristen Liarley show on Saturdays and Sundays.

It's

a wonderful name.

I love that

name.

Jane, I thought you had a note for the name of the show.

Dr. Liarley presents, but that's an alternate.

That's

your

variety show.

Yes.

Oh my

gosh.

Jugglers and

flamethrowers and baton twirlers.

And then fishermen

from

Surgeon Bay were just like,

I caught a trout.

Dr. Kristen.

I'm like harkening back to like He-Ha and the Smothers Brothers.

Like I remember all this variety show back in the

day.

Yes.

People like to give, people love to give Gough to He-Ha, but I grew up on He-Ha and I loved, I loved laughing and He-Ha was, was Southern laughing to me.

Then there were some really, really talented musicians on

this show.

Oh my God.

There were.

We're gonna, again, we're gonna serious things a little bit before the top of the over news.

Again, we were talking about the arrest of Scott Suchek, who is the husband of Stephanie, the chair of the Republican Party of Dora County and the former chair of the Eighth Congressional District of the GOP.

He was arrested for downloading child abuse materials.

And as you pointed out, Dr. Lierly, while they were looking over

Earlier law enforcement records, Sucek was interviewed in 2009 for uploading child pornography.

An investigator reported at that time he admitted to downloading the child pornography.

The Sturgeon Bay officer investigating him wrote, this year it remains unclear as to why the 2009 case was not referred to the Door County DA's office for prosecution.

Very concerning.

It is.

Yes.

It wonders if there was a deal cut somewhere.

Yeah, well, I mean, we know this is happening.

This is happening at all levels.

It's shocking when it's happening right in your own backyard, but we're seeing it nationally.

We're seeing it in lots of places where you wouldn't expect to be seeing it because we're being shown these flashy things or these people who are telling us that they're against child pornography, that they're fighting it, but in reality,

This is what we're finding.

They're

facilitating it

because

he's been very, very outspoken about his feelings about the LGBTQ plus community, correct?

Oh, not just that.

I mean, so much of this deep state stuff is present on his Facebook page, including all these direct to camera videos.

I mean, some of the quotes, some of the things that he's reposted, he reposted in 2022, we will never create enough laws to control evil.

Evil does not obey laws.

Well, and that's why I saw that in the chat and I said to

Jane, you know,

when someone is arrested,

for the thing that they rail against, there should be like a 25% hypocrisy tax on the sentencing where

you are.

So because the problem ultimately is like, I think it's safe to say it, I'm not going to break any ground here is that we're all like, I mean, not all.

The vast majority of us are against these things that harm children.

Okay.

And we should work to dismantle them.

And people who are a part of them should be arrested, prosecuted, and given the applicable sentence that applies to their crime.

But the problem is that when you yell so loud and so fervently and so in your face about nothing but this topic, which again, if you are passionate, that's fine.

But if you're not facilitating it, if someone close to you

is arrested for this, why aren't they standing up and saying, throw them in jail?

We didn't know this, we disavowed them, this is not where we're about, but every time this happens, it's either a weird sort of like, we wanna see what's going on, or just dead silence.

Well, and I think it will be interesting to see whatever faith community that he belongs to, because I'm assuming he does belong to a faith community in that area.

Unfortunately,

it appears deeply Catholic based on his Facebook

posts.

But unfortunately, if you look at earlier cases across the country, faith communities in many, many instances come to the defense of the perpetrator.

And he was tempted by, I mean, we've seen this with the head of the Southern Baptist Convention.

high powered big top guys getting busted for this.

And their faith community goes, well, he admitted, he sinned, and he's, you know,

now he's

contrite.

And so we'll just, we'll let this go.

We'll just

let it go.

Oh, the Catholic church, the Catholic church.

I mean, have you heard about what happened with, I'm not gonna remember his last name, but Nate, a person who went to Catholic High School up in Green Bay.

molested by a priest, this is not just a claim, this has actually been proven, was paid off by the church for many, many years so that he could address his mental health issues related to that abuse.

When the church changed leadership, those payments went away and he, now a father with a family not living nearby, ended up committing suicide.

His name is Nate Lindstrom.

Thank you very much, Nate Lindstrom.

There is actually a giant community of people who know Nate Lindstrom.

I know many of their friends.

I did not know Nate personally, but who support him and who are fighting against exactly this kind of clergy abuse.

It is so deep-seated and there's so much room for us to do better.

And it goes across to nominations.

It does.

It does, yes.

Widely across to nominations.

Dr. Kristen Lyerle, we only got about 50 seconds.

What's coming up on your show this weekend?

Where can people find it?

We're talking about food speaking of Nate's Nate's brother has a band and they are being featured on my show this weekend But we're also talking about where does all that extra food go when you do big events and it's leftover How do we get it to the people who really need it?

So some pretty innovative things happening up here in northeast, Wisconsin

Check out the dr. Kristen Lyre Lee show you can always find her as a podcast as well.

Thank you my friend.

We will see you soon

Thank you.

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So Civic Media's political editor and the creator of the Reconpopulation Area, Dan Schaefer, joining us right now.

How are you?

Joining you here on a Wednesday.

I'm doing well, Jane.

I'm doing well.

How are you guys doing?

We're good, re-combobulating a little bit about the governor's race.

Let's talk about the Wisconsin governor's race.

Yeah, the big political news.

Still making

news.

It's less than a week since Governor Everson.

It feels like we've lived several lifetimes.

Every

week feels like

that.

Yeah,

that's right.

When we're in the thick of elections, we're like, can we just not?

have elections for like 20 minutes.

It's so tiring.

And the moment they're gone, like, when

will they be back?

Let's just talk about this all

the time.

But the field continues to grow, it seems, as far as people who might be interested in running.

Yeah, and both sides of the aisle, too.

I think, you know, obviously, we saw Sara Rodriguez and David Crowley, you know, Sara Rodriguez officially launched.

David Crowley saying he is going to launch.

And I think there's some, some intriguing developments happening on the Republican side of the aisle too.

I think Tom Tiffany is going to run.

I'm just reading the tea leaves from some of his recent comments on the radio.

I think I do think Congressman Tom Tiffany from Wisconsin seventh congressional district, former former state senator for, for several years before he made the jump to run for Congress.

I think he's gonna run.

If I'm reading, you know, the latest tweets, he's been raising his profile in conservative media in recent months.

He has been, you know, taking aim at, you know, Tony Evers in various tweets from his campaign account, not from his, you know, official congressional account and things like that.

He has like this Team Tiffany war room Twitter account or whatever.

Everybody, everything has to be a war room.

Apparently.

Right.

you know, taking shots at one of the other candidates who's one of the other Republican candidates running for governor, Bill Barry.

And it seems like he is lining up something.

And Greg, you had some information on something he said on a different program recently too.

In a press release that we got through, through this morning, he was on the Vicky McKenna show and he discussed a potential one for governor saying.

quote, I believe I am the best candidate, unquote.

And I think you're absolutely right because for the longest time, Tom Tiffany was sort of, was sort of like Ron Johnson in his first term, real backbencher, didn't cause

way too

much, didn't do, and then, and then during the election season last year, he really started to kick up the, the apostle islands for good or for bad, whether you like it or not, really brought him a lot of attention.

And he's been, he's been capitalizing on more, more exposure and

I'm sure he thinks he's the best candidate.

I'm sure a federally elected official probably thinks, well, I know the more statewide view and I have more connections of whatever else reason you think.

I mean, apparently he can also hold a fish if you're on Twitter.

That's the new requirements apparently.

Yeah.

He was standing on a frozen lake, which I concede is brand infringement on Eric Hubdy, but that's for another day.

But he was, you know, he's, he is doing those things.

He's ingratiating himself to the Wisconsin electorate.

through various things and he's becoming more visible and he's staying very plain spoken.

And I mean that as a retail politics compliment.

But my question is, what wins can he bring to the public and say, look what I did for you.

In all of my years in office, I brought you this and this and this.

If I am remembering correctly, and I don't know that I am, but he's

He's real good, and he can come out and say, I stood next to the Blotnik bridge that's getting repaired, which I did not vote for, but I was here to take credit for it.

What is he going to bring?

to voters as I did this for you.

I brought

this for you.

I think it would be, you know, really what he's been part of the Republican majority with President Trump and like everything that's been happening over the past, you know, six months here and say like, hey, we want to, you know, bring this type of governing to the state of Wisconsin that we've been able to do at a federal level.

You might not agree with that.

Of course, I do not.

But, you know, I think that is the message that he's going to send.

And I think as he's really been raising his profile particularly

He's been a really hard line views on immigration.

And I think he's been tweeting a lot about immigration.

He's been on conservative media talking about immigration a lot.

Republicans see that still as a winning issue.

I know you were talking about it.

The polls have changed

considerably.

Absolutely.

There has been a big shift in public perceptions after what some of what we've been seeing with ICE, with some of the

Tactics that they've taken in the last six months or whatever which are only gonna get ramped up because like ice got a gazillion dollars in the big ugly bill And so I think he's gonna raise the salience there.

I think this is also an indicator though

of where the center of power for the Republican Party in Wisconsin is shifting.

Because I think so long it's been so many candidates from the Wau counties, from Waukshows and Washington County.

We've got one of those candidates now running in Josh Shomen from Washington County.

And the fact that people are still looking for other candidates tells you all you need to know about how Josh Shomen's candidacy is going

so

far.

But I think it is indicative of what this longer term shift that we have been seeing

in the Wow counties and in Northern Wisconsin, Western Wisconsin, more rural communities in the state that have been shifting more Republican.

And so I think you're seeing, you know, before the strategy was like, we need to run up the numbers in the Wow counties to counter what's happening in Madison, Milwaukee, you know, we'll compete, you know, we'll win, but not by a ton in other areas of the state.

Now I think they need to win by like,

crazy big margins in rural areas because they're losing so much support in the

wild counties.

So I think

by having a candidate like Tiffany, and I know there's another state senate president, Mary Felskowski, also from northern Wisconsin.

Her name has come up as a potential candidate for governor as well.

I think this is just showing that this is where the center of power for Republican politics in Wisconsin is moving.

If you're just joining us, you were listening to Matt Nair on air on the Civic Media Radio Network, and we are here with our political editor of Civic Media and the founder of the Reconpopulation Area, Dan Schaffer, talking about the ever-growing field and conversation of the Wisconsin governor's race, which will be taking place next year, of course.

And something that really strikes me as interesting as far as Tom Tiffany, you know, trying to find that support.

that's going to be I feel really difficult for him, maybe because if we look at the numbers of the spring election for judge, we saw a definite slow move, not a not a not a blue wave, but there were moves in every county to the left.

There are some changes of thoughts.

If the economy is not doing well next year because of the big bill for billionaires, if he has to run that because for a while,

Any Republican, all they had to do was say, I love Trump and Trump loves me, I'm your guy.

But that doesn't have as much cachet as it used to and if the economy isn't doing well and he voted for the bill and there are shifts to the left, it will be, I feel, a hard slog.

for him versus maybe someone from the state like Josh Shulman, who by the way, I had a long conversation with Todd Alba, and he says, this is a guy we shouldn't be sleeping on.

This guy knows retail politics,

he

knows Wisconsin.

And I think that this might leave the opportunity for a GOP state-based candidate to say, look, I'm not from Washington.

I'm from your hometown.

And there are problems, and I'm here to fix those problems.

I think that provides a better narrative than, hey,

I love Trump and I

have a fish.

I love

Trump and

I have a fish.

I think there are greater, I think there are greater weights on Tom Tiffany's shoulders if he runs because he has to pray to all the living gods above to say, please don't tank the economy.

Please don't, because that will be, it'll be John McCain in 2008 all over again.

We have a couple of comments on the live stream I wanted to share.

Tony says, I think Tom Tiffany says, look at what I stopped.

He can't he can't come to his constituents and say look at all the things I did for you because he hasn't actually done anything But it's look what I I stopped us from becoming Minnesota.

Oh, okay

Yeah, that that's definitely been a line from Republicans late though.

We don't want to come become Illinois We don't want to become Minnesota like oh, they've gone good.

They've gone woke Yeah, that's right, but you know I Tom Tiffany does have experience in state government too

So I don't want to overlook that piece of a potential candidate C2.

He was, he served in the assembly for a term.

It's starting in 2010.

He was elected to the Wisconsin state Senate in 2012 and 2016.

So this is not somebody who is completely unfamiliar with the process.

It's

not like

a, it's not like a Bill Barrion who's like this political outsider business type.

We would get, you know, a number of those, those folks running for Republican races in Wisconsin.

So I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't discount that, but.

you know, if this would be the type of thing.

And as I'm talking about kind of like the regional element of this is if Tiffany, let's say he does a little bit better in the North woods,

where

he represents the, the, in the seventh congressional district.

Well, I think the considering the type of crossover appeal that I really do not think he has, particularly among suburban voters, you're going to see like a blue Ozaki County if Tom, if Tom Tiffany runs or something like that, right?

Cause I think this is just going to accelerate the shift that we've been seeing.

And I think

And you know, I've talked about this in a couple different shows and I think the key thing in the Republican primary is going to be the Trump endorsement like whoever gets the Trump endorsement is going to be the Republican nominee and I think Senator Ron Johnson has talked about not wanting a messy primary You know, let's get our ducks in a row.

Whatever that means from our senior senator And I think if Tiffany makes a run here it makes a little bit of a splash

gets on Trump's radar, gets the Trump endorsement, that could clear the field.

Jake on the live stream says, Tom Tiffany has been consistently clowned on social media for the stupid things.

He says, oh, and he opened the northwards to strip mining when he got elected to the Senate with Coke money.

He's got a pretty cushy gig.

He's got his big spread up north.

I mean, it looks like a beautiful place.

I'd love to see it, Tom, if you want to invite me.

Why would you leave that he's got an easy gig?

You don't have to produce anything.

Well, I don't know.

I guess he's ambitious, right?

I guess he wants to wants to take his shot for statewide office and maybe sees this as his best potential opportunity

Well, there's also some something to be said about saying, you know what the federal life I mean, he's gonna I mean at this point.

He's been in office long enough I think he's gonna get a pension from his congressional years

So he's going to get that.

He'll get his health care.

And being in Wisconsin, I also feel like gets him out of the messiness of DC.

And he can focus.

He can say, I want to come back to Wisconsin, the entirety of Wisconsin.

And I do not believe for a moment that Berryman, Shulman, and anybody else who is throwing their stuff are just going to be like, oh, yeah, you're right.

I think that there will be a primary.

I don't want to say it's going to

be

messy, but there should be a primary.

All

these individuals have something to say.

They should have the ability to say it.

And it's, we're not about king making, but I mean, Ron Johnson, Ron Johnson says a lot of things.

So I think it's also Ron Johnson, just once again, trying to find anyone who will put a camera in his face.

There is that.

Cause he likes it.

Cause he says things all the time, like today.

Thank you for mentioning that, uh, Ron Johnson, this is on Twitter says Josh Holly's bill to ban members of Congress from trading stocks is quote legislative demagoguery.

I don't even know what that means.

And I'm not completely stupid.

I like words.

I'm familiar with words and meanings of word.

What is legislative demigragory, Rojo?

Come on.

I

don't understand what he's trying

to say here.

His continuing quote there from Brian Metzger reporting this from Business Insider.

There's a bill coming up today about trying to ban

members of Congress from trading stocks.

Absolutely should do.

Ron Johnson's quote to say, we make it very unattractive for people to step up to the plate.

So if you don't get to do insider trading, what is the point of being elected to Congress?

Put that on a shirt.

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Let's talk a little bit about communities are still having money problems.

Yeah.

There is a couple of stories over the last couple of weeks from the Waukesha Freeman terrific publication that has reported about...

various communities in Waukesha County, one of the wealthiest counties in the state looking to raise taxes in the form of a wheel tax.

The reason for this being state is still not funding municipalities that the way that they should adequately adequately the way they should and

You know, even after the shared revenue reform bill from two years ago that really injected a lot of funds and really pulled a lot of communities back from making deep, deep cuts across the board.

Now, you know, and Milwaukee was always kind of scapegoated for this and like, oh, but they can't manage their finances and whatever.

Well, are we talking about that when it's Elm Grove?

or New Berlin.

Oh, there's spend thrifts in Elm Grove.

They just can't keep a budget.

They just can't keep a budget.

But I think this is, it just goes to show that we still are not adequately funding local government.

If we are seeing wealthy communities like this, say that, hey, we need to raise a wheel tax in order to pay for basic services.