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Oh yeah.

Little sad.

Little sad, you know,

but it's been a wonderful, wonderful, we have seen

Just so much as they say in a movie once, the gorgeosity of Wisconsin.

I believe that's the official term.

Yes, the gorgeosity.

We're going to talk a little bit towards the end of the show about all the things we've seen on our road trip here through Wisconsin.

We stopped first in Oshkosh and then we broadcast yesterday from Park Falls.

And today we are in Hayward.

We were in Butternut yesterday.

Well, we broadcast from Park Falls.

We stayed in Butternut.

Oh, I always, oh, what a...

It's confusing.

Or am I wrong, Todd Alba?

The other way around.

You see, here's the thing, folks, is I knew I was right, but I am so Wisconsin.

I'm like, you know what?

I'll

just let it go.

Just let her take it.

Just let her say she's right.

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As we said, Dan Schaefer, Pacific Media's political editor is here.

Good morning, Mr. Schaefer.

Jay, for how goes it?

Good morning, Jane.

Good morning, Greg.

So wonderful to join you here.

I've been having such a good time following your travels this week.

Have you?

It's been such a great trip, Dan.

It really has.

We have met the nicest people.

Seriously.

Everyone has been...

Nothing but accommodating and delightful and our colleagues in Park Falls.

We went out on a pontoon boat ride last night.

That was great.

They actually gave the keys to Todd.

And

you're all here to live and tell about it.

That's

the real

success there.

They gave him the keys for tonight.

So we had the real adults were driving last night.

So tonight, we're going to take it out tonight with Todd.

Maybe we won't be back on Monday.

We don't know.

I was going to say Civic

Media has its own pontoon boat now.

We'll just take it with us.

I think that's our plan.

There's all kinds of things going on, Dan Schaeffer, in Wisconsin.

Where would you like to begin?

Well, let's start with all of this swirling news surrounding the governor right now.

There's some buzz going on there.

There's a little bit of buzz when it comes to the governor's decision.

There have been reports.

There have been responses.

There on social media.

There have been all sorts of different things.

But I think that certainly is if we're looking, we always spend time in these end of the week segments on Friday to recombobulate on the news.

of the week in politics in Wisconsin.

The news of the week of the politics in Wisconsin is that Tony Evers is going to make a decision.

But we just don't know what it is.

He's going to make a decision one way or

another about what he's going to do for his third term.

You all know where I stand in this.

I wrote an opinion column a little over a month ago at the recombobulation area making the argument that Tony Evers should not seek a third term.

He should take this moment to pass the torch to the next generation of leaders.

I still don't really know which direction this is going to go.

I think it seems a little bit more likely now that he would not.

run for a third term but again this is all you know really speculation but I do expect there to be some kind of a decision coming in the not too distant future perhaps that would be next week now but then again this is all there's been the rumor mill on on what's happening with evers this week has been really off the charts so I don't know you know how much I would

be comfortable saying on the radio here, or certainly nothing I can report at the recombobulation area or anything like that.

But there's a lot of people talking, and a lot of speculation, and that's certainly the topic du jour for politics in Wisconsin, that's for sure.

A lot of people are saying things about things about people.

Yeah,

sorry for this like extraordinarily vague

update for what

but I think that's just like you know where we're capturing where things are right now with

this I mean that's part of the conversation but the question I I mean I guess I would ask is You know in your travels now with regard to your article.

Have you had any conversations of people?

that I don't want to say, I don't want to ask if you talked to anyone within the administration, but like, you know, since that article came out there have been conversations about it.

And also the other part of that question is, when we started talking about the state budget being passed, I made a mention, is this something he can run its third term on?

But in that week since, and we discovered it last week as well,

not everyone is happy about the budget on both sides of the aisle Democrats and Republicans aren't thrilled with it and I'm wondering actually could that budget compromise hurt hit a third term run because he didn't get everything they were looking for especially K through 12 teachers

I was gonna say on the education side yeah

Yeah, I know you've talked to some folks on the show that are not exactly thrilled with all aspects of the budget.

So is this one for him to run on?

But then again, I do think voters at large do really like bipartisanship and like compromise and like the ability to get things done.

And that is, you know, a message that Evers could run on to, you know, as a more moderate governor.

I think he said as much, you know, in a recent interview saying that he's more of a moderate.

And I think, you know, that has largely reflected in his two terms.

as governor in Wisconsin and I think you know there are a lot of voters in Wisconsin who do

respond to that and you go around the state and I'm curious, you know, you're talking to people around the state.

People want to see their leaders get things done too.

So I do think that would be the angle that he would take if he would have run for a third term, if he were to run on that budget to say, hey, you know, it was more important to me to get things done than to please one side of the aisle or the other, right?

So I think

that's part of it too.

I think also, I think you make a good point, Dan, in that I think the one thing most Wisconsinites can agree on is they want things to get accomplished instead of just going back to the same spot, and it's like, well, we can't reach a deal, so everybody walks away.

People are tired of that.

People are tired of the inaction and the delays and the delays and the delays to, again, going back to the money that we're waiting to have released for the PFAS and all of that stuff.

There's frustration there.

Yeah, for sure.

State Senator Kristen Dassler Alfheim was on Rational Revolution last weekend.

I thought she had some really interesting comments on the budget and the one, you know, kind of one line quote that I really took away from it.

She said, I think this is the, I hope this is the last crappy budget that we have to sign.

And so she was, she voted for the budget.

She was one of those five state democratic state senators who voted in favor of the budget and was, was excited about, you know, the wins that they got for, for local funding, for, for UW system, for special.

education for childcare, but was recognizing that this is this is not.

the budget that really reflects the will of the people in Wisconsin.

And so, you know, as the state Senate in particular really eyes flipping the chamber for 2026, the possibility of a democratic trifecta in Wisconsin for the first time in more than 15 years, you know, maybe this is just a glimpse of what's ahead.

And then you run on, hey, we're going to give you the full picture in 2026 if we have full control.

If you're just joining us, Dan Schaffer is here.

He is Civic Media's political editor and also the founder of the multi-award-winning recombobulation area.

We are talking about all the speculations swirling around Governor Evers and whether or not he will decide to run for a third term.

Of course, I thought about this when you were talking about, we don't know when the announcement will come.

It's Friday.

We know what happens frequently on Fridays.

There's a late afternoon news dump, so I'm not saying that that's going to happen, but it's a possibility.

It's a possibility.

As a journalist who has worked in Wisconsin for the better part of the last 15 years here, that Friday afternoon, you just tighten up a little bit because they're waiting

to

drop that news on you at 4.30 in the afternoon to mess with your weekend and try to bury that.

I mean,

we're used to walking out of the studio at 11 o'clock

at 11.04.

Huge breaking news we can't even talk about.

We're like, well, thanks.

Why don't they make those announcements to coincide with our needs?

You know,

Jane McNair always says what I'm thinking, honestly.

Very insensitive of them.

There is an opinion column in the Wisconsin Examiner from Ruth Conniff, where you are actually referenced, Dan, and she just talks about the...

money that governor evers has raised according to this article so far this year he's raised about seven hundred fifty seven thousand dollars with two million in the bank but that compares with five million dollars that he raised during the same period in twenty twenty one before he was reelected

Yeah, when it comes to politicians, it's always better to follow the money than to take their statements at face value, right?

So I think a lot of people who are trying to read the tea leaves of what's happening for the governor, we're certainly looking at that financial reporting that was required at the end of the filing period here.

And yeah, you're right.

A lot of people kind of ramped up speculation about what the governor's going to do based on that report because it is behind where he was.

But I think at the same time,

I think people recognize that Wisconsin, you know, the big donors, the small donors, people who get involved with these campaigns, they know that there's going to be a lot of money to be spent in Wisconsin, that's for sure.

And so people are going to be lined up to be spending in these races, regardless of what the governor does.

You know, the groups like the Democratic Governors Association, who has spent a whole lot in supporting him in the past as an outside group, you know, would certainly pick that up as well.

But again, it is the same thing.

It's just like it seems like less likely now than a week ago that the governor would be running again.

But talking about fundraising, because we've mentioned this briefly, I think in the last couple of weeks, Rebecca Bradley, who is expected to run for the open spot in the Supreme Court, she hasn't raised any money either.

Literally zero dollars

right

and and so a lot of people were looking at that It's just like wondering if she was going to run again She made those comments to whisk politics right after the spring election that she was going to run for re-election Then there was a report from some conservative talk radio talkers that saying that maybe she's she's reconsidering whatever it might be So let's again, let's follow the money.

Let's see where this is going She raised nothing in this report and at the same time Chris Taylor who is running for running for office.

She raised

a record sum, more than $580,000, beating Susan Crawford's record from the same filing period from a year ago.

So if Rebecca Bradley is going to run again, she is running at a significant financial disadvantage.

Like how do

you raise $0 if you're in this kind of race?

You could just have anything on your website to accept donations, and there's probably going to be somewhere out there, somebody out there saying you should run again, I wanna support you, whatever, but $0 tells me that I don't think she's running.

There's not much interest, although again,

All she needs is one donor to swoop in and give her a couple million dollars.

Not that that's ever happened before, but I'm just saying it's a, you know, it could.

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We're back with Dan Schaefer, who is Civic Media's political editor, as well as founder of the multi-award-winning Reconpopulation Area.

Dan, you posted a new article about the push for congressional redistricting maps.

Tell us about that

story.

I got to correct you a little bit here.

I'm working on a story on redistricting about a new effort for independent redistricting for how Wisconsin draws maps.

So this is stepping back from the kind of the partisan politics of it all and a new effort from a lot of pro-democracy groups, a lot of volunteers, a lot of people who care very passionately about fairness and democracy are starting a new effort for independent redistricting in Wisconsin.

And you'll see that story online at the Reconbibulation Area later today, so go subscribe.

Basically, what's happening is that, you know, last year, February 19th, 2024, Governor Tony Evers signed new maps into law.

And that was a momentous day for Wisconsin.

We finally were out from under one of the most egregious partisan gerrymanders anywhere in the country, led to a lot of change in the makeup of the state legislature after the last election.

But...

That was only a short-term solution though those maps are only on the books through the rest of the decade here and

they will reach another point where there will be a redistricting process in Wisconsin after the 2030 census.

And what this group is looking to do is to offer a proposal for an independent redistricting commission to oversee that process for the long term in Wisconsin and really move the decision making

for who draws the maps away from the lawmakers who would run on those very maps.

So it is a very compelling proposal.

There has been a lot of work put into it and they have made it so that it is not part of party politics.

They are not working with Democrats on this.

They are not working with Republicans.

They are putting this together as a bunch of pro-democracy organizations and volunteers and trying to find the Wisconsin model of what's going to be best for redistricting in the state.

That makes perfect sense to me and I the the only reason I can see why anyone would be against this is because they have a vested interest in this not changing or how this is going to change I've always thought that people who are not involved on either side should be we need an outside nonpartisan person to decide these lines, right?

I don't know why that seems Like we would never do that.

What why wouldn't you do that?

Again unless you're going in with some vested interest in this

and I think that's the that's the caution That's the fear that a lot of these groups are looking at and they say you know gerrymandering is bipartisan disease it is not

Just Democrats not just

Republicans

obviously in Wisconsin Republicans gerrymandered the state More than Democrats did when they had the opportunity after they won trifecta in 2020 2010, but you never know I mean Democrats could have a trifecta in 2030 and they do we don't want Democrats to draw maps

in their

favor either We want maps that are drawn to reflect Wisconsin So I think that is what a big part of what this effort is it would have a number of paid commissioners

who would be on this, who would determine there would be members of...

Republican-aligned members of this commission, Democratic-aligned members of this commission, and then a group of just kind of like independent or third-party-aligned members of it as well.

So really trying to make it so that it really reflects Wisconsin in a lot of ways, the diversity of the state, the geographic diversity, the demographic diversity, whatever way you want to look at to really try to make this, they've taken expert consultants.

and reports and analysis to try to really hone this idea.

And now what's happening now is it's being kind of coming out of the behind the scenes, crafting the project type of phase to really presenting it to the public.

And they want to get feedback and they want to continue to improve this before it is presented to the legislature and hopefully with bipartisan support eventually as well.

So there are community hearings coming up on this and this is going to be a really interesting effort to follow, I think.

That's fantastic.

Well, thank you so much, Dan Schaefer, Civic Media's political editor, the creator of the multi-award-winning re-combobulation area.

I really appreciate your time.

We will check in with you next week.

Thanks so much for having me.

Enjoy the rest of the trip.

We will, absolutely.

We got news coming up next, and then we're going to talk to a Hayward business owner about life here in Hayward, Wisconsin.

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Jane Matt and Air and Gregbock coming to you live from Hayward, Wisconsin.

We are broadcasting from the lot, which is right in downtown Hayward.

If you're in the area, we would love to meet you.

Stop on by.

We have fresh coffee.

We have crinkle.

We have lemon cake.

Loaf.

Loaf.

Yes, which is also getting big high reviews.

Stop by and see us.

We are going to be here until 11 o'clock, Todd Alba, taking over them this afternoon from two until four o'clock.

All kinds of things going on in the Hayward area.

We have obviously the Lumberjack Championships are underway this weekend.

Also starting today is the Earth Homecoming Celebration in Pow Wow, which is happening at the Round Lake School, on Round Lake School draw road here in

Heyward.

That starts today, so all kinds of things going on in the Northwoods.

We're very excited to be joined right now by our next guest.

She is the owner of River and Reigns, which, if you can see over my shoulder here, is right next to our station here in downtown Heyward, Wisconsin.

WBZH.

Jennifer Pettit is here.

Good morning, Jennifer.

Good morning.

Thank you so much for joining us.

Tell us a little bit about River and Reigns.

What is it that you do at your shop?

Sure.

So River and Rain is a wellness boutique and rock shop.

Wellness to me is the complete integration of body, mind, and spirit.

So I wanted to open a shop that offers products that align with each of these aspects of wellness.

So at River and Rain, you'll find wellness products, natural bath and body products, skincare products that are healing.

without all of the toxins.

There's a lot of stuff.

There's a lot of junk in things like lotions and soaps that people aren't aware of.

There really is.

And so we also offer a great selection of books and journals designed to empower, uplift, and inspire creativity, help you meet your goals.

We have a great spiritual section that is thoughtfully curated.

We carry women's clothing, or they decor out to compliment your personal style and space.

So the shop is designed to provide a relaxing shopping experience with abundant nature inspired vibes.

Because I believe that nature truly helps calm and soothe our souls.

Nature is healing.

It is.

And I think that's why so many of us choose to live here and why that this area is such a popular tourist destination.

There's just something about connecting with nature that enhances our overall wellness.

So when you walk into river and rain, you'll immediately feel a sense of peace, calm, and connection to the earth through the thoughtfully selected products that I choose to carry.

And then we have a huge crystals section.

So people love them for their stunning beauty.

They truly are nature's artwork and for the incredible energy that they emit.

I personally connect with sources to our warehouses and handpick unique high quality crystals.

How

interesting.

That's really interesting.

So they're truly beautiful and we have so many products that will just enhance your overall wellness.

It's a unique shopping experience to the area for sure.

And I just encourage everyone who lives in Hayward or visits

say word to stop on by and say hi

absolutely we're gonna stop by after we get off the year and uh... and check it out because again i think there are so many things in the products we put directly on our skin yes that we don't think about

all of the additives and all of the stuff that goes in it.

So where do you source a lot of your stuff from that you carry like your soaps and your and your lotions?

Small batch businesses.

So it's, you know, not mass produced because when you're getting high quality skin care, you know, a lot of these small businesses are kind of they have less workers.

They're, you know,

doing it on their own, so small batch companies.

That's fantastic.

What a great way to support small business in Wisconsin,

right?

Yeah, for sure.

And being here in Hayward, I mean, like what you're saying is nature, nature is healing, nature is part of like, just, I mean, we're out in the, the, the lodger staying out is just beautiful and there's a sense of calm.

And I imagine that that's part of bringing people here to visit your shop and the area here is to get away from

quote unquote, all of it.

Absolutely.

Well, how long have you, how long has River and Rain's been open here in Hayward?

So we're in our third summer.

Yeah.

And you are a native of Hayward?

I am.

I grew up in Winter, Wisconsin, which is just 45 minutes away, but I moved here during my freshman year.

And, you know, I've lived other places in my life, the cities, and something about Hayward just always

draws me back.

That's wonderful.

The lakes, the sunsets, the...

the woods the water if

you're looking for water it's practically every seriously everywhere you look up here which is one of the wonderful resources that we have

yeah i'm rooted here now i won't be leaving

just try and get her out of here that's right just try jennifer pettit is our guest she is the owner of river and rains which is located here in downtown hayward right next to our studio at wbz h uh when folks come into your shop and we uh one of the things we kick around

all the time is when people get too into politics and too wound up it's like just go touch grass would

you

just go go outside go

ground yourself

go ground yourself exactly because as you said there is something inherently healing about being in nature and getting away from our computers and getting away from our phones

well and that's something that you know I live in a suburban area I lived in cities and that's

basically been my upbringing have not lived in these areas ever and coming here this this week seeing hayward seeing butternut seeing park falls all these areas and the beautiful

Everything is beautiful out here and the people are wonderful.

What do you want?

And I'm speaking actually for the people in Wisconsin because it's easy to talk about, oh, New York, LA, Chicago, but even people from Milwaukee, Madison, what do you want them to know about these areas of Wisconsin that makes them come here, visit, spend their dollars, but also spend their time?

That is just an incredibly beautiful area and the people here are kind and humble.

Always grateful for every dollar that the tourists you know bring in it's how we survive here and we cater we cater to them we cater to that and then

they're just getting to experience a true Northwoods vacation, and I think everybody needs that on their bucket list.

And I think what you have is such an unusual, again, you're a very niche kind of thing, but I would think every community, everybody needs a shop like yours, where it's calm, the energy is healing, there's things in there to, again, bring you some peace, bring you some inner peace.

And is there anything that right now you're you know Anything in this store that you're really enjoying you want people to check out whether it's crystal whether it's a it's a it's a Skincare product something.

What is the thing right now?

That's really getting you excited.

I

just I love every aspect of my shop I think that the tourists flow to the crystals They love them you have the side that just loves them for

their beauty, their true works of art from the earth.

And then you have people that love them for like their energies that people believe they give off.

So there's two aspects of the crystal world and that's so amazing to see.

And like I said, we're not just your average rock shop.

I really take a lot of time to

to her warehouses, handpicked them for their unique forms, the way they're cut,

their quality.

I want to go along with you.

But I mean, I would have meant that must take, you could take hours going through that stuff, right?

Todd, did you have a question?

I was, so I've been up here a couple of times for the Burkabiner, and so I stopped in and bought some sage, bought

some,

is it lindwood?

Is it the wood that burns little sticks of wood?

Pelo santo?

That's it, Pelo santo,

sorry.

And I find it like just to go out my deck and just burn a little bit of that with like a candle after a long day.

It just really chills me out.

So I find

that

it enhances the nature, the natural part, with a little bit of burning of sage and whatnot.

can you just tell us

it's a great self-care ritual for sure right

exactly can you tell us so what i'm curious about what led you to this because i think it's a lot of people like i'm gonna go to college i'm gonna go to tech school i'm gonna go to

whatever sure

how did you

get into this i did go to college and i was a counselor for a lot of years so one huge part of healing yourself is

taking that time for self-care, getting to know every aspect of wellness.

Like I said, mind, body, soul.

Going to therapy is amazing.

Yes, do that.

I encourage everybody to do that.

But then I needed or wanted to give the area a shop to purchase things that help you along with all these different aspects of your healing journey.

It's not just therapy.

It's not just one piece of

puzzle.

I'm not trying to delve into your personal life.

Did

you have an event in your life, or did you go to a crystal convention or some sort of wellness convention?

What is it that connected you to?

That's it.

That's my thing that I want to do.

I've loved nature since I was a little girl.

I've loved crystals since I was a little girl.

I've loved...

just kind of that more holistic lifestyle since I was a little girl so I mean I've just kind of always been into these things you know the more natural ways of life and things like that

well and it sounds like a natural progression as well to

take your counseling.

Obviously, you're a caring person and you're concerned about people's well-being and their inner well-being.

And you've kind of all wrapped it all into one into one little one-stop shop.

That

was

the goal.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's fantastic.

For a person like, like I said, I'm not surprised.

I bought the stage.

That was awesome.

And the Pell sales to say it again.

I'm sorry.

Halo Santa.

Halo Santa.

That's

what she said.

Thank you.

Exactly.

So somebody that like is, because we're a statewide show, maybe they don't have a river and rain next to them, but there are similar shops or if they're going to visit Hayward, where does someone start?

Is it just a candle?

Is it a lotion?

Is it like where, what would you recommend to someone who like, what is this about?

And like, where do I begin?

Yeah.

So, I mean, you could take small

steps to change any portion of your life, right?

So if you wanted to start with just a non-toxic candle, that's a good start.

For people who don't really know about the crystals, I would just suggest like clear quartz.

It's considered a master crystal, right?

Amplifies the energy of other crystals.

That's a good don't quit.

Promote positive energy clear negative energy, etc.

But yeah for sure

if I buy sage Will this take care of past relationships?

Can I like burn sage for like a boy guy a dated like 40 years ago?

I'm just curious and I'll just wave it around it.

I'll be in after the show For everyone

you got

some old vibes I need to get rid of Jennifer Pettit is the owner of river and rains here in Hayward if you're in the area stop by and check it out Jennifer

Thank you so much for your time.

Thank you

so

much.

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But right now, till 11, the word is park.

We are joined by our colleague here at Civic Media with WBZH.

Mark is here.

Good morning, Mark.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Welcome.

Thank you.

How is it going at

WBZH?

Um, it's it's been a

It's been a good challenge because I came from public radio that was owned by the tribe here They had a public radio.

They still have a public radio station I was the engineer there and I did morning shows every once in a while with them and It's a little more laid-back right and non-commercial right so when you get into a commercial radio station that's owned by a Company in Madison and they have 23 plus other stations.

It's

it's a lot to think about well it's a little more

regimented it's probably a little more out than uh... than uh... public broadcasting what uh... what's been the response like you're in

hayward uh... pretty good uh... at the only response i really see is when we do our text to win contest and i see all these people text isn't it exciting all there's people out

there yes but it's so exciting to see him coming in and i love to see where everybody is listening right now we get ideas for road trips

absolutely that's how we we went to butternut

We went to, we saw it come through on the text line.

We're like, there's a butternut with Scottson.

And I lived here almost all

my life, and I had never heard of it.

That's how it kind of got on our list.

On the map.

And now we're taking, because we refer to it lovingly as.

Jane's favorite places that she's never been to it.

Last year it was Amory.

This year it's Butternut, so we're going to start taking nominations for next year.

I've thrown Wanderoo's on there because I just love the fact that there's a place called Wanderoo's.

There's not a lot of logic behind our choices.

It's just

like, I like how that place sounds.

Let's go there.

Let's

go there.

Yeah, so it's been a pretty fun experience.

Again, the station has been kind of

a dormant for like 10 years.

Long time.

Even the building out here that everybody knows as a landmark, as you come into Hayward on Highway 63, that building's been there for 40 years.

And then for the past 10 years, it's been empty.

Grass is growing up.

It's getting overgrown.

Nobody sees anybody.

So they kind of thought, you know, where are the people in the station?

And that's what civic media did.

They came in and gave it a new birth.

Yeah.

And so it's been

you know trying to get since we didn't really have an audience because there was nobody on the stage for a decade was a jutebox station we called it and it just kind of went on about its own with no personality well now they brought on somebody with personality and one of the things that I think people in Hayward know me for

is tropical shirts.

I wear tropical shirts year round.

That's all I have.

If I have to go to a funeral or a wedding, I wear my tropical shirts and I have four different colors and about

five different shirts of each color, so I'm not wearing the same shirt every day.

Well, that would be ridiculous.

That would be ridiculous,

Mark.

Let's not be ridiculous

here.

Not that anybody would notice, but so anyways, yeah, they hired somebody with character already coming in, and I already had a following from the other station that I was at, and some people followed over, but you know, it's been kind of fun.

Oh, that's wonderful.

And

I thank you, Mark, for mentioning

that's kind of civic media's whole goal is to go into communities that have been radio deserts for a long time and

Properties that had been there for 40 or 50 years and for whatever reason the owners at that time decided not to stick with it So civic media is coming in and bringing back local hometown radio.

It's a it's a big part of our mission

Yeah, and it's it's as I've been watching the company grow and acquire other stations It's like wow, you know in Ely, Minnesota that station was

dead.

And they brought it back to life, right?

You know, and it's just been amazing to see what they've been doing with their mission.

But and that and that is wonderful.

And something we've learned on the road here talking to the folks in Oshkosh butternut Hayward Park Falls is that while civic media is a network

company we cannot do it without the local people the local coverage the local businesses because you know this past few months it's been butternut oh butternut sounds so nice but now we meet people in butternut we meet business owners and people who work in the diner and we know about them and we know how important these stations are to them to get the information they need so

talking to you, talking to Darla, Big G, talking to Kelly at the Fanatical Fish Gallery, that is what makes Civic Media march forward is that network overall thing, but the local coverage is how we do what we're doing.

Without you, it's impossible.

It is impossible.

And that's what I was all about when I was at the public radio station.

I interviewed all of the local government officials, civic leaders, nonprofits, and I already had that.

a group of people in my, you know, on my phone and ready to call.

And then when I came to Civic Media, I thought, I just got to restart and bring them

over here.

Yeah.

Easy fit.

That's fantastic.

Mark Lundin with WBZH here in Hayward, Wisconsin.

Thank you so much, Mark.

I really appreciate it.

You bet.

We got news coming up next.

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Good, good morning and welcome.

Welcome to matineeir on air.

Jane Matineeir and Greg Bach coming to you live from the lot in Hayward, Wisconsin.

You can always join us at 855-752-4842.

Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be

Twitter, we got Calbee on the board back at our homestead at Radio Park in Racine, our third and final day of the matinee on air and the Todd Albus show road trip for summer 2025.

And I just want to say

thank you to all the people who have stopped by so far.

Just met Steve.

Just met Steve.

Stop by.

Todd talked to a lovely gentleman before and Logan was here.

Just yeah, Logan.

I mean, honestly, it's been

this whole time meeting individuals telling us that they listen to us that they love what we do love what the local stations do the mission of civic media get in the you know we're in we're in north woods some would assume it's like you know red country but that's what we're finding that's not even let's

We need to step away from that narrative and talk about us as a people, but you do get the good work.

You guys are doing good work.

And that means the world to us.

It really does.

So thank you for all of us who are, for all of you who are listening, calling, texting, coming by and saying hello.

It truly, I'm getting goose pimples talking about it.

Cause without you, there's no us.

Like we say it every day without you, we got nothing.

Uh, Judy from East Roy just texted in and said, guys, please check out the Northwoods.

Society's Thrift Shop on O'Brien Hill Road.

They open 11 right after the show stops.

I feel like we are up there with you.

Well, thank you, Judy.

We will absolutely try and stop by there in between shows.

Todd will be broadcasting live here from the lot starting at 2 o'clock this afternoon.

And if you can stop by, please do.

We got coffee.

We got some cringle.

Okay, maybe not the cringle.

a little old at this point.

But he's got lemon loaf.

We have we have fresh lemon loaf available as well.

So we would love to see also free ticket Fridays is underway right now before I forget.

So we are playing for a four pack of Milwaukee Brewers club level tickets.

These are really nice seeds.

And this is for the Monday, July 28th game against Chicago.

So text in the word via the Civic Media app.

Park, P-A-R-K, is the word, send in the word park via the Civic Media app, P-A-R-K, you have until 11 o'clock and then you're gonna be in the running for those Brewer's Club level tickets for Monday, July 28th.

Text in the word park Tom Hartman will have a new word for you between 11 and two and then Todd from two to four Maggie Dawn four to six p.m.

All right We wanted to talk a little bit about this this broke last night when we were at dinner

Yeah, and it kind of it both broke the news and really for me personally broke my heart

We have a clip Calvin.

I believe from Stephen Colbert on CBS making this announcement last night.

Let's play that clip, please

Oh, hey, everybody.

We got a great show for you tonight.

Senator Adam Schiff was my guest.

We harmonized on Seven Bridges Road.

What a voice, I cried.

But before we start the show, I want to let you know something that I found out just last night.

Next year will be our last season.

The network will be ending the late show in May.

And...

Yeah, I share your feelings.

It's not just the end of our show, but it's the end of the late show on CBS.

I'm not being replaced.

This is all just going away.

And I do want to say... I do want to say that the folks at CBS have been great partners.

I'm so grateful to the Tiffany Network for giving me this chair and this beautiful theater to call home.

And, of course, I'm grateful to you, the audience who have joined us...

Every night in here, out there, all around the world, Mr. and Mrs. America and all the ships at sea.

I'm grateful to share the stage with this band.

These artists over here every night.

And I am extraordinarily deeply grateful to the 200 people who work here.

We get to do this show.

We get to do this show for each other every day, all day.

And I've had the pleasure and the responsibility of sharing what we do every day with you in front of this camera for the last 10 years.

And let me tell you, it is a fantastic job.

I wish somebody else was getting it.

And it's a job that I'm looking forward to doing with this usual gang of idiots for another 10 months.

It's going to be fun.

Yeah.

Y'all ready?

We're going to rock in.

Rock in.

Y'all ready?

Let's go.

Y'all ready?

Stephen

Colbert from last night making the announcement

that the show is being cancelled, and he will be off the air within the next 10 months.

CBS is owned by Paramount.

Yes, it is.

And CBS claims that the show's cancellation is purely a financial decision.

A lot of critics pointed to recent comments made by Stephen Colbert.

He gets very political, and he has always kind of, you know, his opening monologue.

He takes shots.

They're comics.

That's what they do.

But many critics have pointed to recent comments by Colbert as being the likely reason for this decision.

He got under Donald Trump's skin.

Right?

He has been one of the most vocal critics of Donald Trump for the past, I would say, since he rode down that escalator in 2015.

And he's not the only one.

There are a bevy of, I mean, there are a bevy of other

commentators comedians comedians comedians by the way not news people comedians comedians important doing their job doing and by the way i'm i'm gonna do my best to not get angry and i will stay FCC compliant i guarantee you but this is coming from and i and and do not come at me with financial

He was a, it was a tentpole show on their network.

It's the late show.

He made money for them.

They made money in streaming numbers.

They made money on hits on YouTube.

And what this is, is the exact opposite of what he and his ilk have been talking about for years, which is make comedy legal again.

Take a joke.

Don't be so sensitive.

You snowflakes.

All that garbage.

That's what this is, because our president cannot take criticism from comedians, like I said, not from Jake Tapper, not from Brian Williams, not from anyone in MSNBC or from any other network, even from the Fox News, by the way, who criticizes him, but from comedians.

In order to make this deal happen with Paramount, they had to cancel him.

That is what I'm led to believe and that is what I believe.

Well, and I think that's one of the reasons why people are very concerned about this, because this is network capitulation.

This is the network.

Paramount wants to make a deal.

They have a big merger

that they

want to go through, and this has to be approved by the FCC.

Gee, whose umbrella does the FCC fall under now?

That would be the Trump administration.

So in order for this merger to go through that Paramount wants, they are doing what the president wants.

Is this how we want life to be?

going forward from now on that anytime Donald Trump isn't amused by something or is irritated by something or has his fee fees hurt over something that it just gets canceled and we're only we're gonna program now for one person

well honestly Jane this is not CBS

paid out 16 million dollars to basically make a case go away over over 60 minutes.

That was nothing

to

an ordinary with Kamala Harris.

Also, do you know who else Paramount owns?

Comedy Central.

And you know who else is on Comedy Central?

The Daily Show.

Are they next?

What else is next?

Because I don't know about you, but I thought that we did live in a free country.

And now the president can tell a a and it's a private company, but they are

are on our public airways.

This is CBS, the Columbia Broadcasting.

This isn't some new network.

This is a pillar of television and media.

And they've told them to stop.

And because they want to get bigger, they want to make more money.

They've got to get their shareholder something.

They're doing this.

And so a question I have is,

What's next?

Who's next?

And is this the country we want to live in?

And by the way, to all you folks, I'm sure sitting back saying, that's right.

Guess what?

You're your art, your favorite guy, your favorite news network, maybe next, because they're going to say something down the road that's going to anger the president of the United States of America.

And he is going to point his finger at you and say,

You're gone.

You gotta go.

You gotta go.

This is disgusting.

This is hypocritical and it makes me so mad because this is a place where I live in this industry of comedy.

Felipe Torres Medina was on our show last week.

Last week.

He is a former writer for this show and I've been watching his social media and he's heartbroken by it and I am angry by it and I'm heartbroken because I just there are people out there who are using their voice to bring light

and comedy to important matters.

And that's the way a lot of people digest their news.

So when we take away those matters, when we take away those abilities and those avenues, it makes it harder to criticize power.

And that's what he wants.

And that's what we need.

You have to have organizations and groups and institutions that will speak truth to power.

That's what journalism is for.

That's what journalism is.

mission is to not let the powerful just be able to steamroll over everything and point out when they are misbehaving.

And as for what you said about the economic reasons, CBS claiming that this is because of financial considerations, Mediaite has an article that says the flagship late night program was the most watched show in its time slot for

years.

for

years.

It makes it lots of money.

And Stephen Colbert is not.

I mean, I don't know him personally.

But I will guarantee that in order to keep his show on the air, to keep that voice out there, to keep those people employed too, by the way.

200 people.

200

people are going to be on a job in 10 months.

He would have made concessions.

When you need to cut money, you don't just cancel it.

You say, all right, where can we cut back?

Where can we slice?

Perfect example.

Seth Meyers late.

the late late show, not the his late night show.

They cut the ban to save money.

There are cost saving measures to get there.

But you don't just cut it outright.

This is not about finances.

This is not about budgetary line items.

This is about the fact that the President United States was tired of a guy making fun of him, telling the truth.

And all I have to say, and I probably will say a lot more later, but whatever.

CBS

You gave Stephen Colbert ten more months I would strap in because he is not going to make it an easy ten months for you or the president of the United States of America So that's all say to that

PJ on the live stream says Trump is threatening Kimmel next I don't don't please don't think this is gonna stop no because it's not no, and that's why we need to be aware of this

And just know what's happening.

Yep.

Know what's coming down the pike.

This is not...

This is nowhere near over.

No, it's not over, and it's not a good sign.

No, it's not.

We are gonna lighten things up now for the rest of the show.

We are up here on the road.

Our road, second...

summer road trip.

That's right.

In a row.

Matt and Aaron are on the road with the Todd Alba show coming to you live from the lot in downtown Hayward.

If you're in the area, stop by and say hello.

And then Todd's going to be back with his show from two to four this afternoon.

We got a little audio sorbet coming up.

Of course, we will wrap up the show as we always do with this.

Shouldn't be a thing.

Today it is the

Kiss me, baby.

This is the last time edition.

Stay

close.

You're listening to Natnair On Air coming to you across the Civic Media Radio Network.

We'll be right back.

On the river with my new sweet soul With a file in the pocket of my hole in my kendo I'm headed for the woods each morning at the break of day

Good morning and welcome.

Welcome back to Natmare on Air.

Jane Matmare and Greg Buck coming to you live from the lot in downtown Hayward, Wisconsin.

Our third and final day of our road trip across the state along with the Todd Alba show.

Thank you so very much for joining us.

We got Sweet Calbee back at Radio Park in Racine running the board for us and love to see your texts coming in.

We did have a couple of comments I wanted to share before

before we move things along.

Greg, we had Sue from Franklin.

We were talking about the end of the Colbert show and CBS claiming this is for financial reasons, which is all a bunch of hooey.

It's a hooey.

It's a hooey.

It's officially hooey.

Sue from Franklin said ABC settled too.

when trump got mad at george stephanopoulos yes that's accurate and roger from steven's point also texting in the money that trump got from settling with cbs is nothing less than extortion appreciate those comments and i would say that i agree with you

uh... well and i was gonna also say too it's like it's it's you know who's nexus john oliver it's hb o warner but like it's it's next next next

at the end down of these kinds of things happening and that's a concern all of us

yeah a

seriously all of us and our ability like we love to say we we're free in america we have free speech keep an eye on that a little bit um... we do have art uh... statewide text to win

Free Ticket Fridays contest is underway right now.

So grab your phone and open up the Civic Media app and text in the word park.

P-A-R-K.

Text in the word park.

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Text in the word PARK.

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And Maggie Dawn from 4 to 6 p.m.

The word right now though is PARK.

P-A-R-K.

We're joined again by our colleague here at WBZH.

Mark Lundin is by my side and...

uh... not only are the lumberjack uh... world championships going on here in hayward this weekend but uh... a big powwow is getting underway as well today

yeah honor the earth uh... powwow it's actually called uh... honor the earth uh... powwow and homecoming because a lot of the natives that are from the lakuta ray reservation uh... don't live on the reservation they're out in different areas mostly some in chicago some up in uh... up by red lake or um... sorry not red lake but uh...

bad river um because there's other tribes area and they're they're all really interrelated and um so it's a great time for the community to get together um and I've been a part of this community

as a non-native for the past seven years because of my work at the radio station they had there.

So I've become very familiar with them.

They've, you know, it took them a while to say, this guy's kind of weird wearing tropical shirts all the time.

Whatever your thing is.

Okay.

Well, you know, it took them a few years, but, you know, I got to know the elders.

And it was really fun to

get to know them better.

I learned about their ceremonies and some of their things that they do.

And the powwow is a culmination of all of these things that they bring together.

And it's just an amazing cultural experience.

And I suggest to anyone to go to a powwow.

They're very open to non-natives coming.

because they want you to learn about their community and their culture because there's so many misunderstandings about it.

So that's what I like about these larger powwows.

It's just a great opportunity.

Tonight, the grand entry starts at seven o'clock and the grand entries are just amazing.

With all of the

fabulous costumes and the dancers, yes.

And it's just a big to do.

They bring in their flags and the veterans are recognized and a lot of the different community leaders

and elders are recognized, and it's just so cute to see what they do.

And all of the regalia, we call them costumes, but they call it regalia.

It's a very spiritual dressing for

them.

But I mean, powwow in and of itself

is

a very spiritual

thing,

and a very sacred thing, from what I understand.

All their regalia is handmade by that person.

and it has a very deep spiritual meaning for them.

So a lot of times people will say, well, you know, ask permission if you're gonna take a picture of somebody in their regalia.

They don't want you touching it because it's very sacred.

Yeah, sure.

So anyways, yeah.

So the powwow really last three days actually started on Tuesday with a couple of ceremonies, a feast, and then they had some pageants last night.

But again, the grand entry tonight and then tomorrow is a big day.

I'm going to be there tomorrow.

I used to run the sound for the

for the powwow.

I was there for five years running the sound.

And for whatever reason, I said, I can't do it next year.

And then all of a sudden, I got this job at Civic Media.

It's like, how I know why I left that.

But I miss seeing the people and being down there.

So I'm going to be there on Saturday.

They have two grand entries on Saturday, one at 12 noon, and then the other one at seven o'clock as well.

So wonderful.

Just

we're going to

include a link to all of the activities.

We will include this in our show notes.

If you're in the area and you would like to attend and I would think too that.

so much of the so many of the ideas that we have about native culture come from a stereotype from

stereotypes

from black and white movies and black

and

white tv series right and and that's that's our base of knowledge which isn't really a good starting base so if you would actually like to learn and find out about this like you said they're very welcoming i'm sure they would love to explain it and

and have

people understand why this isn't such an important part of their culture

You're also going to be looking at the website right now.

It's not.

It's also going to be there's crafts.

There's going to be wonderful

food.

There's vendors all over the place.

It's going to be

it's a total experience.

So yeah, I will put that in the show notes for the for this this hours episode and you can check it out if you're in the area.

Listen to Mark Lundin on WBZH, our civic media sister station here in Hayward, Wisconsin.

We got news.

Coming up next in the little audio sorbet, we'll wrap it all up with this shouldn't be a thing.

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Good

morning.

Welcome back to Mattnare on Air.

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Here in Hayward, Wisconsin, you can always join us.

Call or text at 855-752-4842.

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Thanks to Caliente for holding things down at Radio Park in Racine on the board and our

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Park, P-A-R-K, just like William in Oshkosh and Adam in Oregon and Roger in Stevens Point and so many more.

There will be a new word for you between with Tom Hartman, 11 to 2 and then Todd 2 to 4 and Maggie Dawn from 4 to 6 p.m.

This is our audio survey portion of the program where we just lighten things up and talk about things away from politics and away from the news so we can all take a little bit of a breath.

And we thought we'd just do a little two day, well, it's day three.

I can't believe it's the end already.

I know, right?

It's gone really fast.

It really has.

And honestly, like this has been, this is your second trip.

This is my first trip with the both of you.

And I want to start off with a thank you for allowing me to be a part of this because, you know, this has been, it's not, it is work.

but it's not in a sense.

It's not working.

You're getting on the road, you're seeing some of the most gorgeous land on earth, kicking back, having great time with two, not just colleagues and coworkers, but friends, singing songs loudly, having a great boat ride.

I mean, it's just for me, Ben, not only an eye-opening experience,

on the in the industry of radio, because this is you guys have been doing this for years, traveling, going to meeting people out there.

This is my first time doing it.

So it's been a wonderful experience.

And I want to just thank the both of you for allowing me to be part of it.

So thank you.

Well, you are that you're happy.

You got your big part of the

show, dude.

You're

welcome.

But thank

you for

coming.

Thank

you.

I mean, it means a lot to me to do this with other people in the company.

And like you guys are saying earlier, having people stop by, say hello, say, hey, we listen.

to you and then to go out of their way to drive to us to say that to our face.

It means

so much.

It's hard to overstate what that means to us when Logan came out and Steve came out and a couple other folks came by and said, you know, you guys are doing good work and it really, really means so much to us.

So thank you really for taking the time

to

stop by and carve some time out of your day.

There are so many favorite things already that I'm thinking about and I started taking notes last night before I fell asleep, but we got to see an atomic bomb being moved.

A diffused

one.

Yes, it wasn't not a live atomic

bomb, but that happened when we were at the in Oshkosh at the EAA museum and I didn't even know that was a thing on my bucket list and it who knew it was and and I got to see it.

I mean everything we've done so far has just I mean

The museum was we were just in one small part of it, too.

It's so wonderful.

It was the emotion I felt standing in that giant room with all these planes and a tiny millennium Falcon.

Go there to find out what's about.

But that alone, I mean, even if we would have come home right after that, I would have said that was a fun, worth it trip.

I had a really good time.

And then we go, then we get on the road and we drive to Butternut and we meet Kelly and we meet Meredith and Maxine and we meet.

Darla big G we meet Gray and we meet the great people Rachel.

Yes, Rachel W CQM.

I mean, that is was wonderful.

And then here we're in this beautiful space.

We're being great people.

I don't know.

I just every day had its own best of

And I'm so happy we still have the whole day here yet, and we're going to have a fun night this evening.

And I am also looking forward to sleeping in a little bit tomorrow.

That's going to be

great.

We had to hit the road a little bit early the last couple of days just to get set up.

But it's all been good,

like you said.

Absolutely.

It's worked.