America, Let Them In (Hour 2)

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America, Let Them In (Hour 2)

Matenaer on Air · Tue Jul 8, 2025

Jane Matt (host)

Good, good morning and welcome, welcome to Matt and Air on air.

Jane Matt and Air, Greg Bach, Calvin Butenoff.

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Many, many thanks to Matt Rothschild and Angela Lange who filled in for us yesterday while the three of us all took an extended extended.

We can't we're back baby.

We are back baby and we have a big show coming up for you today Todd Alba our friend and colleague and soon-to-be road trip partner

Greg Bach (host)

I'm gonna probably There's gonna be a lot of show tunes.

Jane Matt (host)

Oh There is you better you better gear up baby.

I would

Greg Bach (host)

like it Okay, if we're gonna do this and we'll explain more when Todd's here.

We're going on the road next week We'll give all the details then but stay tuned because it's gonna be fun.

It is I want a specific list of them because I don't want to

Um, yeah, your,

Jane Matt (host)

your life.

My camera's freaking out.

It's like, I know I don't look that great, but holy man.

Um, I

Greg Bach (host)

would like a set list of what's going to be happening because I would, because

Jane Matt (host)

I'm not as as far as the musicals were missing.

I'm not as

Greg Bach (host)

adept at musicals as the two of you.

And I would rather at least be able to chime in with a few things than just that they're going, I don't know these songs.

So I'll make one request now.

Jane Matt (host)

All

Greg Bach (host)

right.

Jesus Christ superstar.

Jane Matt (host)

Oh, good one.

Greg Bach (host)

All

Jane Matt (host)

right.

Good one.

Okay, so I like that one.

I'm gonna

Greg Bach (host)

say we'll talk about it more when

Jane Matt (host)

Todd's here.

All right, all right.

We'll put our playlist together for the musicals that we're gonna sing while we're on the road next week.

Just don't wanna be left out.

I understand.

Okay.

It's always nice to get, it's like, you know...

studying ahead.

Exactly.

Sure, I understand that.

That's great.

Yes, Todd will be here after 9.30.

We're going to talk a little bit more about the Wisconsin State budget and other things that did not make it into the budget.

And then of course, we'll talk about our hitting the road next week.

In hour number two, I am really looking forward to this.

Felipe Torres Medina is going to join us.

He's iconic.

Yes.

And he's a writer and he's written for all what late night with Jimmy Fallon.

He was

Greg Bach (host)

on he was a writer.

Jane Matt (host)

Stephen Colbert Colbert and he's out with a book now.

He is an immigrant to this country Yes, yes, and he's out with a book called America.

Let me in a choose your immigration story and we got a book we got he sent us He overnighted this like

Greg Bach (host)

Jean there's overnight.

I feel like what he did was 12 hours.

Jane Matt (host)

I know it was amazing I emailed him and said we're looking forward to having you on can you send me a copy of the book and

And the next day, we got it.

Greg Bach (host)

Yeah.

And I just also want to remind people of this, too, that his wife, Taylor K. Phillips, was also on the show like a year, year and a half ago to talk about her book, Midwestern Conversation.

So like, this is great.

They've both written books and we're very excited to have them.

I'm a big fan of Felipe,

Jane Matt (host)

big fan.

The book is really funny.

It's a very serious subject, obviously.

But he looks at this with a lot of humor and trying to give folks

if all of us who don't have to go through this process, just a little idea of what people who want to come to this country have to go through.

Greg Bach (host)

And as someone who myself is all about immigration reform, to making it easier, more accessible, all the making a good thing for me, I'm very intrigued to find out even the things I don't know, because I feel like as a supporter of this topic, there is as buttons, someone who's never went through it,

Jane Matt (host)

it doesn't

Greg Bach (host)

have to.

I'm happy about that because I don't know how far I'd make it.

I can't wait to learn more.

Jane Matt (host)

Yeah, it should be a great conversation.

Felipe Torres Medina is going to be joining us after the 10 o'clock news for Audio Sorbet today.

We were kicking this around before the show and we are going to talk about what there's a national day for everything.

Yeah.

National chocolate chip cookie day, national spa day, you name it, day.

What should be your national day?

If you got to institute a national day, what would your national day be that's coming up after 1030?

And we're going to wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it's the you're in trouble now edition.

Calvin found this one.

It's pretty great.

Greg Bach (host)

Just think about it for a second.

It's just.

Jane Matt (host)

So that's all coming up on the show.

I hope you can stick around for that as always if you miss something or you have a life you have to go live and you can't be listening to us live You can always go back and listen as a podcast.

Check it out at civicmedia.us Did want to start off talking about the situation the horrific horrific situation in Texas The death till now is at least 104 and tragically It's pretty much a recovery

effort at this point as opposed to rescue because these floods again blasted through that area on Friday now 105 rather from CNN 84 deaths in Kerr County that was the

Biggest place where it was hit.

That's where that camp mystic was.

Yes located seven deaths in Travis County five Burnett six Kendall two and Williamson one in Tom Green County at least 23 people are still missing Among them many little girls from that that camp mystic camp There are ways you can help yes, if you would like to help

I would suggest the Red Cross is always a good one to go to.

World Central Kitchen is also another really good one.

Just be careful, because as always, in instances like this, there are terrible people who will try to scam you.

Greg Bach (host)

Yeah, in this situation, I mean, we've been talking about this for a while, and we have Lisa Schiller from the Better Business Bureau of Wisconsin on to talk about this.

And we've, I mean, I feel like everyone here has been a victim of some sort of scam.

Go directly to their websites.

Just go directly to them because I mean Red Cross.

Yeah.

Yeah, or World Center or whatever group you you want to donate to Go directly to their website donate directly through them because even the the instance of people posting You know whether it's go fund me or whatever saying hey give to this thing

I don't wanna be a naysayer or a doomsayer, but sometimes you can't always trust those things.

It's always best to go directly through the website to give if you want to give.

If they're in your area, go to them and donate, whether it's money or food or clothing, but yeah, it's just, we wanna be helpful in these times, but you also gotta make sure that you're not the victim of a scam.

Jane Matt (host)

Exactly, and they are also saying, I know a lot of folks think, I'm gonna go down there and help.

I want to go down there and I want to be in the ground.

They are asking folks not to do that.

Unfortunately, people are very well-intentioned, but you end up getting in the way.

I

Greg Bach (host)

feel like that happened in North Carolina, like last year or the year before, where people were making their way to the disaster sites, and they were like, please don't.

We're already having a month problem with

Jane Matt (host)

closing off.

Cooperation, and yes, you're

Greg Bach (host)

trying to get people around and trying to get places.

Honestly, the thing that always helps is money.

I

Jane Matt (host)

hate to say that, but

Greg Bach (host)

it's the, it's the best way you give the money directly to them and they're going to make it the best use of that money.

So if you can, great.

I will put direct links to the, the Texas Red Cross as well as world central kitchen.

And if anyone wants to, if anyone's heard of any groups in that area, feel free to text

Jane Matt (host)

us to us

Greg Bach (host)

or comment them or email us.

Jane says at civicmedia.us and I'm happy to put those in the show notes as well.

Jane Matt (host)

Again, this is so tragic.

Yes.

And unfortunately, I think over the next couple of days, again, this is more of a recovery situation now than it is a rescue situation.

But things that I was reading over the weekend, this is not the first time that area has flooded or that there has been flooding along the Guadalupe River.

I believe in 1987, there were 30 kids who again were at some summer camp that drowned.

After the river rose and there were discussions in Texas About paying for a warning system along the river that would involve sirens and setting up sirens along the river.

It was too expensive Was what was determined it was too expensive They had this system of calling each other so the camp that was upriver

would call the camp downriver and say, hey, it's coming your way.

Greg Bach (host)

That

Jane Matt (host)

wasn't enough.

Greg Bach (host)

It isn't enough.

I mean, because in the moment, it shouldn't be the worst.

I mean, yes, it's great to have a system to communicate with each other, but in a moment of crisis, all bets are off.

You the the person who is in charge of doing the calling or the people might be doing something else then and all of a sudden It's just everywhere and you know, I I'm not I don't I'm not placing the blame on the people Please don't think I'm doing that but what I'm saying what what but what we're talking about right now is the fact that Once again, I mean even the face of this this would have been a reactive response to a tragedy 40 almost 40 years ago

But in those 40 years, I cannot believe for a moment people did not bring up the conversation again.

And to be told it's too

Jane Matt (host)

expensive.

ABC News reporting at a meeting in 2017, a different commissioner I believe from Kerr County said the river calling system between camps is working and quote, the thought of our beautiful Kerr County having these damn sirens going off in the middle of the night, I'm gonna have to start drinking again to put up with y'all.

Unquote.

A different commissioner said, we have a warning system out there that may or may not work.

My gut feeling on this, I think we have a duty to look at what we have.

We are very flood prone.

We know that.

It's

Greg Bach (host)

just tragic.

Jane Matt (host)

I

Greg Bach (host)

just want to go back to that one.

A person complaining that the sirens going off will wake them up.

But if you're in the siren area, if you're in the area of the sirens, you may be in danger, too.

Absolutely.

What kind of excuse the phrase, what kind of backwoods response is that?

Like that is, so other people's lives perishing is fine as long as you get that a healthy eight hours in.

I don't understand this and the logic behind

Jane Matt (host)

it.

Yeah.

And, and there is

Greg Bach (host)

that

Jane Matt (host)

logic

Greg Bach (host)

behind it.

And, and yeah, the, this thing of like

It's too expensive.

Did no one stand up and say is one person's life worth it?

Jane Matt (host)

A transcript of commission meetings from Kerr County commissioners found they were going to apply for FEMA dollars made available by President Obama in 2017 but a county judge and some commissioners expressed discontent that the money had to come from the Obama administration.

Outside of applying for that FEMA money, one commissioner said, our other option is don't do anything, which is an option.

I mean, we can just stick with what we have.

And that's apparently what they did.

Greg Bach (host)

They could have given a check to George W. Bush and said, here, give it to them and tell them it's from you.

Honestly, on that level of thinking, what they're just doing right there.

giving a check to George W. Bush and saying, give this money to them right now and say it's from you, is as feasible an option as the two they just gave us.

It's from Obama, boo, bad.

Jane Matt (host)

Can't take it.

Greg Bach (host)

Or nothing, because nothing's an option.

So if we're saying stupid things out loud people, then that's just as dumb and as plausible, I guess.

Jane Matt (host)

Just a reminder again, we will have links in our show notes.

Yeah.

If you would like to donate to try and help other victims of the flooding in Texas, American Red Cross is one we're suggesting.

Also, World Central Kitchen, we know that these are legitimate organizations.

I've been a monthly donor to World Central Kitchen for a long time.

Greg Bach (host)

And also, you know, another way you can do this is go to your local Red Cross or Vercity and donate blood.

They

Jane Matt (host)

always need

Greg Bach (host)

blood.

And whether it's even for this or just getting in the habit of donating blood on a regular basis,

Does so much you will never never know because it's just they're always needed So yes donate those will be in the show notes again Send us your suggestions if you have any and I will make sure that if they are feasible or if they are applicable

Jane Matt (host)

I'll put them in all right coming up next Conspiracy theorists, they're not happy

So we're fine.

It's fine, Jane.

We're fine.

Well, kick that around on the other side.

Stay close.

You're listening to Matt Nair on air on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Jane Matt Nair

Good morning.

Welcome.

Welcome to Matt Nair on air.

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Coming up after the 930 News, our friend and colleague and host of the wonderful Todd Alba show from two to four across the network, Todd Alba is going to be joining us.

We're going to talk about the Wisconsin state budget a little bit more.

And then we're going to talk about our road trip.

Yeah,

Greg Bach

we're going to the road

Jane Matt Nair

next week.

Greg and Greg

Greg Bach

and Todd and

Jane Matt Nair

I I'm looking forward to it.

It's gonna be a lot of fun So stick around for that.

I did want to spend we don't have a whole lot of time to spend on this but the mega world is not Happy

Greg Bach

well, I mean that's not really saying a lot.

No, that's true.

Yeah, you're not really making this is a whoa boy breaking news

Jane Matt Nair

now just Remember remember back

Just a little bit.

Remember back.

Yeah.

Jeffrey Epstein.

Thank you.

Died in prison.

Yep.

Sex trafficker.

The list.

Yes.

The list of clients.

MAGA has been promised.

This list, even since Trump started running for a second term.

Greg Bach

Well, they even released.

A list, there was, I don't know if I remember this, remember this, a couple months back, mega influencers pouring out of the White House with these binders.

That were empty.

That were full of no information.

Right.

And they were so mad because.

Those were supposed, those were the files, right?

Yeah, those were.

Those

Jane Matt Nair

were ostensibly the Epstein files.

Greg Bach

And this was supposed to be the information that they were promised.

But I'm gonna actually I'm gonna harken back to Elon Musk's tweet from like last month a month and a half ago where he said Trump's name is going to be in that file and of course they well They were really close friends.

I'm not defending either one.

Yeah, like that's the thing is is is There are a lot of names that because Jeffrey Epstein knew a lot of people and

On both sides on both sides from all different kinds of worlds from I mean there's talked about Stephen Hawking and like professors you name it so there really would need to be a deeper dive into by I would say the FBI and police to say who was on that list because they were invited to a party and who was on that list because they were invited to party right but of course Donald Trump's name was going to be in there from all the pictures we saw yes but when they released those binders

Meg influencers were unhappy about this information because they felt like a lot had been taken out so Elon's tweet that said You know that he's in that file for a reason Now as of yesterday, I think it was yesterday yesterday yesterday.

They said watching it's done It

Jane Matt Nair

is done Pam Bondi said not too long ago on Fox News

The Epstein files quote, it's sitting on my desk right now to review.

There has been a directive by President Trump yesterday.

The attorney general announced this systematic review has revealed no incriminating client list.

The investigation is closed.

Boom.

Done.

The end.

Memo also says that Epstein committed suicide rather than he was murdered, and no further Epstein documents will be released.

This is from the bulwark, maybe the most injurious to magas.

The memo also claims Epstein wasn't blackmailing anyone.

And the hundreds of gigabytes of Epstein related material in the FBI's position don't implicate any third parties.

Because, again, I believe magas were told, essentially.

There's all kinds of Democrats on this list.

It's all Democrats.

They're trying to protect Democrats by not releasing this.

Yeah, no.

Greg Bach

Well, it was Jeffrey Epstein as a prominent Democrat.

Look at that.

He's best friends with the Clintons.

And Clinton, Bill Clinton was on the list.

Yeah, this is, are you listening 4chan, 8chan?

QAnon, I want to know how QAnon people are feeling.

I've never said that question in my life because this is going, this could be bad for them.

Do you think this will stick?

I think that, I think that, um, I think what will happen is that the.

Q Ananias of the Q nuns will say well we know better, but we know why he's saying it You know there will be an explanation.

He chose not to do.

Yes, there will be an explanation as to why they didn't do it never implicating Donald Trump right because he is infallible He is the broken infallible man.

I don't know how that math works, but it works for them But there will still be theories and whatnot and there's a I bet you there's another list I'll bet you you know it

Because if this is the case, if everything what the Department of Justice is saying, if Pam Bond is saying this, then release Giselle Maxwell right now.

Why is she in prison?

Why is she still in prison?

If

Jane Matt Nair

there's no case, if there's no,

Greg Bach

I don't know.

I know they're not saying he didn't do anything wrong, but it seems like now at this point, it seems like Jeffrey Epstein was a one-man operation.

Is that what they're saying?

I don't know because it's just they're saying they're done.

Well,

Jane Matt Nair

we're not in the right world.

Right, when media influencers, the Hodge twins,

Posted on what used to be Twitter, Trump has to fire Pam Bondi.

She works for Trump.

She went on camera and told the world she has the Epstein client list on her desk.

Now they say there's no list.

Alex Jones, who I still don't understand why he hasn't been forced to sell everything to pay off the families of Sandy Hook.

We don't have time to explain, but I know Alex Jones tweeted next.

The DOJ will say actually Jeffrey Epstein never existed.

This is over the top sickening.

Greg Bach

Hodge twins, this is from me to you, buddy.

I don't know you guys at all, but here's what I'm saying.

Keep the pressure on them.

Don't fall away.

Don't let this fade.

Be angry until you get resolution because that's what they're counting on.

They're counting on this being a story.

And that will go away.

Exactly.

So don't let up, Alex Jones.

Come on.

Don't let up.

Hodge twins and all the other influencers I've never heard of.

Put the pressure on them.

Seriously, keep it there because this is something you wanted to know about.

It was important to you.

Jane Matt Nair

Don't let it sit.

Don't let it sit.

All right, news is coming up next on the other side.

Todd, all the stay close.

You're listening to Matt Nair on air on the vast statewide, countrywide, get us global on the app, baby civic media radio network.

Jane Mattnair

Good

Greg Buck

morning and welcome, welcome to Mattnair on air.

Jane Mattnair, Greg Buck.

Sweet Calbee on the board coming to you live from our studio at Radio Park in Racine You can always join us call or text the number is the same at 855-752-4842 You can leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook YouTube and what used to be Twitter joining us live from his patio in Madison

our friend and colleague and host of the wonderful Todd Alba show from two to four across the network.

Todd Alba is here.

Good morning, my friend.

What a lovely view.

Todd Alba

Well, thank you, everyone.

Jane, Greg, Kevin, great to be with you all.

Yeah, I thought this would be fun.

I came out on my little deck here off in my patio.

uh apartment because the uh for those watching on the stream all the flowers you see behind me here were purchased at one of our great sponsors of civic media uh uh copkeys greenhouse nice uh gordy copkey a great friend of the network he's been a a sponsor since day one and uh i don't look matters is a big uh a big buyer out there no finer place a copkeys greenhouse in the town of dunne outside the village

Oregon just south of Madison and look at even a even a goofball like me can grow nice plants when you buy a cop key.

So I thought I'd come out here.

It was very, very quiet until about two minutes ago when the city decided to start blowing leaves behind me.

So I apologize.

This is Greg.

This Jane knows this very well.

When you travel with Todd, there's great potential and great potential for disaster.

It could go either way.

Anything can

Greg Buck

happen.

Anything can happen.

You just got to roll with it.

You just got to roll.

I'm trying to identify the plants behind

Kevin (possibly a show contributor)

you.

God, I'm out of

Greg Buck

here.

Todd Alba

I'm sorry.

But I have a cannon.

You have a cannon.

You have a big cannon in the back.

It's a dark blue selvia.

OK.

Like the selvia.

Just a standard geranium.

That yellow one is just a bright.

I like that because it was a blue pot.

OK.

And then the pink one.

I don't know what that is.

I can't see close enough to see what those are.

Here's the deal.

You and I.

You guys have both.

We've both on our shows have talked about, you know, don't do the no mo might may just have pollinator nights.

So I said to the folks at Gordy's copy of greenhouse, I want plants that will attract butterflies and hummingbirds literally a half hour before we came on.

Hummingbirds were feeding there

Greg Buck

on your canna.

Todd Alba

So

Greg Buck

on the can

Todd Alba

on the can.

Whatever.

Whatever this orange thing is down here.

Interesting.

Little.

Yeah,

Greg Buck

interesting because I they like canvas too.

They like those they like those orange.

Isn't

Todd Alba

that

Greg Buck

exactly where you I lose my mind when a Hummering bird comes in my backyard.

Greg is like what you people are great.

They are.

They're fantastic birds.

It just it's it makes me happy to be alive.

Greg.

I'm so happy you're happy

Todd Alba

to

Greg Buck

be alive.

SPEAKER_??

My God.

Todd Alba

Greg's going, do I really want to spend four days with these people?

Kevin (possibly a show contributor)

I don't know.

No, I got noise canceling headphones.

It's fine.

You might need him.

Greg Buck

In

Kevin (possibly a show contributor)

our

Greg Buck

second segment, Todd, we are going to talk.

Reg wants a playlist.

He wants a playlist before we go on the road so he knows what

Todd Alba

he's going to hear.

Well, I heard one do at Jesus Christ Superstar.

Great show.

Great show.

Here's a hitherto unknown fact.

In fact, my gay card is in danger of being revoked.

I have never seen in its entirety Jesus Christ Superstar.

Kevin (possibly a show contributor)

I am gayer than Todd Alba.

Ted Neely, who is

Greg Buck

Jesus and Jesus Christ Superstar, is so good.

Kevin (possibly a show contributor)

Yes, and so good.

I want to modify my request.

Not only Jesus Christ Superstar, it has to be Jesus Christ Superstar, the motion picture soundtrack, not the original, the one from the movie.

Has to be that,

Greg Buck

period.

What's the buzz, baby?

Kevin (possibly a show contributor)

I'll go along with that.

Don't start, Jane, because I will do the whole thing.

I'll do Caiaphas.

I will do Judas.

I'll even do the terrible songs that Mary Magdalene sang.

OK,

Greg Buck

we're going to get to that in a little bit.

How about the other Mary?

Is she in that?

I'm sorry.

I don't think she shows up in that.

OK, let's talk a little bit before we get to our road trip, which is coming up next week.

Let's talk about what.

made it and what didn't make it into the Wisconsin budget.

Charlie Pittman, Civic Media's new news director has a great piece on the Civic Media website.

Just click on the news tab.

Here is what didn't make it into Wisconsin's one hundred and eleven million dollar state budgets.

Senate Republicans would just won't vote to spare, didn't need Democrats, so the budget got approved in both chambers last week.

Evers

calling 2025 the year of the kid, but missing from this budget, extending postpartum Medicaid coverage to 12 months.

Yep.

We have talked about this so much and the bipartisan support for this measure.

And you know who doesn't like it?

Popcorn King Robin Voss.

Yep.

So it doesn't go anywhere.

Todd Alba

Yeah.

SPEAKER_??

Yeah.

Todd Alba

I mean, I know you guys have talked about it.

We've talked about our show.

I had State Senator Kelly Royce on the show Democrat from Madison.

She was on joint finance committee.

She voted no one of three Democrats on JFC able to know.

LaTanya Johnson from Milwaukee area only demoed the committee voted yes.

You know, for the Star Trek fans, they'll get the reference.

But in my opinion, this is a Kobayashi Maru budget.

It's a no win scenario.

Yeah.

Because if you didn't do anything, if you had no budget, which I think the Republicans were willing to do, you would have had zero money for childcare, catastrophic problems from day one.

UW System would have been at least held even at

at best,

Unknown Speaker (possibly another person from the show)

right?

Todd Alba

Um, you know, the list goes on and on.

And so I think the, you know, I give a lot of credit to state Senator Diane Hesselebein and the Democrats and the state Senate for at least getting some changes in there.

Uh, look, I also quite frankly, at least on my show, I begrudgingly, I guess, at least said.

props to Governor Evers and Robin Voss for not cutting off negotiations as was reported.

At least they kept the doors open and they got something done.

But to your point, Jane, this is not a great budget, particularly for K-12 education.

And I think anybody who calls themselves an education governor, when you chose to draw a red line in the sand for the W system building projects and for childcare, two very worthy causes, but you chose to leave out the red line.

into the sand for K-12 education, I just don't see how you run for reelection for a third term going around the state saying, vote for me again, because we need to stay, I'm the education governor, we need to save education.

Oh yeah, but I basically screwed over K-12 education this budget.

So I just think that he's not gonna run again.

Kevin (possibly a show contributor)

Because you've had so much experience in the state house, and I wanna get your thoughts, because you brought up Calderoy's.

Latanya Johnson and Diane Hesselbein.

We talked to State Senator Kelder Royce and Maggie talked to Latanya Johnson.

Both of them have incredibly different attitudes on this budget, as shown by their votes.

Latanya Johnson voted yes, and Kelder Royce voted no.

When it first came out, Todd, we thought like, oh, like Governor Evers.

And Robin Voss everyone seems to be good with this because and Diane Husslebein kind of brokered the deal because she was asked to the table And then we had Kelder Roy's on the show that day and she came on saying this is not good We don't like this.

That's a really polarizing budget and I feel like I I personally feel like this is a good place.

I don't know what it's I don't want to say to start but as As Johnston put it this mitigates the hurt that would have been

And from your point of view and your experience, Todd, you've seen these budgets take place.

That's kind of the game in the long run anyways.

Like it's about compromise.

No one side gets everything they want all

Todd Alba

the time.

There

Kevin (possibly a show contributor)

has to be concessions.

And yes, it's not a great, it's not perfect, but I feel like there needs to be some wins and they're celebrated.

Whereas I felt like, you know, it doesn't feel like.

there is a path for movement anywhere, especially with childcare, because we also had on Trisha Peterson, who said, this is not a help.

So from your experience, I mean, isn't that how it always goes with the budget?

Todd Alba

Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, what's, and I agree with you, Greg, I mean, one of the things I don't like about today is modern political world.

And our friend, Trigby Olson, Lincoln Project talks about this all the time.

You know, you can't play zero some politics.

It can't always be I have to have everything or I want nothing.

Greg Buck

Nothing gets

Todd Alba

done because that's just not the way that nothing gets done.

So and that that's why I'm willing to give props to both Robin Vos and Tony Evers for keeping the discussion going and getting to a place where they could actually pass and sign something.

I said, a Royce pointed out perhaps others on your show if they had not done that before the federal budget was passed and signed by Trump.

Wisconsin would have lost $1 billion with a B, $1 billion of money for Medicaid reimbursement and rural health care.

So Wisconsin gets something out of that.

So yes, I agree that there was a deal done and that's good.

I just don't know.

I was pretty hard on a state representative, Francesca Hong, Democrat of Madison, because she was actually in our socials telling people, call your dem legislator and lobby them to vote no.

I think that was the wrong thing to do.

But I walked myself back yesterday and a couple of days ago, and I said, I get why Representative Hong and into not quite as forcefully Senator Royce and others, because they're trying to make the point that, you know,

There could have been more here and a lot of people are going to be left behind.

I'll be interested.

I know you've had Karin on your show.

She's brought ours to these childcare workers and are so essential.

This budget only funds them for one year, one year, one year.

So it doesn't, it doesn't even take care of the entire two year by no budget.

So that means you're going to have to come back and either pass a supplemental or, or do something or, you know, in six months, we're going to be right back where, where we were two weeks ago.

So yes.

Agreed, Greg.

A little props need to be given for reaching something, but to think that this was some sort of great shakes, I just don't think that's the right way to do it at all.

It's kind of like, you know, I mean, not to be too grotesque, but I mean, you have an accident on a hiking trail and you lose your, you know, you get in a situation of a terrible cut and you put a tourniquet on the leg.

Well, you live, but you have to have your leg amputated.

Was that a great hiking trip?

Probably not.

Greg Buck

Todd Alba is here.

Our friend and colleague and host of the Todd Alba show across the network this afternoon from 2 to 4 p.m.

Yeah, it's it's not like anybody's throwing parties over over this deal because it was a compromise.

But that that thing about funding this childcare for only one year.

I have to wonder what Republicans think is going to happen in a year that we're not going to need this.

Todd Alba

I mean, I don't know.

Inside of Speaker Voss's mind is not a place.

I've had rooms with him.

It's buttery and salty.

He's

Kevin (possibly a show contributor)

too busy quote tweeting his teenage

Todd Alba

teachers.

I think that I mean, I don't know like my just a guess based on a little bit of experience.

My guess is they want to use that for leverage for something else.

And so, you know, there's so they're going to hold they're going to hold the child care over

Greg Buck

over the Democrats in exchange for something else.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Todd Alba

But they love children, you guys.

Fortunately,

Greg Buck

they love families.

They love kids have more babies, have more babies, have more babies.

It's all good.

Yeah.

Just on your own.

Todd Alba

I it again, I'm glad something passed.

Uh, some people were taken care of, but I think it's important to remember there are a lot of folks, particularly public educators, you know, all across the state, you're going to see more referendums, more local taxpayers.

We asked to have carry the burden because, uh, folks in Madison didn't get it done from public schools.

Greg Buck

Yeah.

Well, we got to pay for those private schools.

Those are important, uh, those are really

Todd Alba

important.

You know, uh, uh, what's the one in, uh, Xavier, Xavier, uh, I'll think of it.

No, a St.

Norbert.

No, that's not it.

There's that public private school in Green Bay that John Guard runs his cross-country program with a charter bus and catered food.

So, you know, you got to keep that going.

Greg Buck

I'm paying for a charter bus and catered food.

We're going to continue our conversation with Todd Alba.

We are going on the road next week.

We'll kick that around next.

Stay close.

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Jane Matt Nair (host)

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Greg Buck

Spirit fingers

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Todd Alba is here our friend and colleague and host of the Todd Alba show weekdays from two to four across the network and We are going on the road next week Toddster

Todd Alba

I cannot wait.

It's been way too long.

It's been my granddad would have said a partner a year.

It has.

We need to get back on the road and have some fun.

So I'm looking for, by the way, Jane, just because here's a tip, Greg, when you travel with Jane, just give her whatever she wants.

Everything goes fine.

I would have been I would have been a great heterosexual husband.

Anyway,

Jane Matt Nair (host)

because you know the

Todd Alba

rules.

Exactly.

Yeah.

The plant behind me that the hummingbird like strain is called Vermillionaire.

It says so.

Is it Sophia hybrid C. H. E. A.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

I'll have to look for that.

All

Todd Alba

right.

Yeah, absolutely.

Anyway, I'll plant talk.

Uh, so anyway, we're yeah, we're going this trip like

Wait, Jay and I did a last show.

We're very happy.

I'm Greg along.

We're going to load up the old, the old bluebird bus and travel around the state.

And it should be a good time to have by all.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

I am really looking forward to it.

We are going to be in Oshkosh next Thursday.

And we're going to have, I'm sorry, Wednesday.

And we're going to have a little preview for you of the EAA, which is getting underway in about a week.

And then on Thursday, I am so excited.

We're going to be broadcasting from Butternut.

Greg Buck

Butternut.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Butternut, Wisconsin, which is near Hayward.

And there's some wonderful history in Butternut that we're going to talk about.

One of our colleagues here at the network Darla is a wealth of information about that area and the history of that area.

So that should be great.

And then on Friday, we will be in the Hayward area, really, really looking forward to it.

We were talking, Todd, that we need

Greg wants a playlist so he can study beforehand because last year when you and I went on the road, we sang in between cities.

We sang like the whole time.

And

Greg Buck

we have some hours on the road between some cities.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

We do.

Oshkosh to Butternut's kind of a haul.

So we'll be going through a couple of soundtracks.

So if you're listening, what should be on our soundtrack list that we will be singing next week when we go on the road?

Greg Buck

And it doesn't just have to be show tunes either.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Yeah, you didn't say anything Jane.

You didn't say anything.

All right.

We'll leave it open But what would be the soundtrack 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 civic if you have the civic media app You can also leave us a voice note

Greg Buck

exactly.

Yes

Jane Matt Nair (host)

about what you think we should be singing in between stops when we go on the road next week We have Jesus Christ superstar that was Greg's request

I know we're gonna do the Book of Mormon again because all of that music is just so good.

Todd Alba

Yeah, it's a book of Mormon.

I mean Jane and I are great fans of that but they're there in fact on on Saturday I'm going over the Twin Cities and seeing like Kimberley a Kimbo, which was the Tony Award winning musical from a couple of years ago.

Oh, so that's it's not as big a show as a musical as other ones But yeah, there's there's all kinds of great music and part of it is just getting out and being with with folks It's what I love to do love do it with you Jane can't wait to have you along Greg and we would be remiss if we did not give

shows to our colleagues.

Todd, Michael.

Yes.

GM at the Oshkosh and the Green Bay and Darla Darla the GM up there at Park Falls.

Incredible.

Those folks literally have made sure that we have places to sleep.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Yeah.

Todd Alba

So that's fantastic.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Yeah.

They

Todd Alba

put all this together.

So thank you both.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

They've really taken care of us.

So yeah, big shout outs to Todd, Michaels and to Darla as well for helping us get this going.

I would request we don't sing South Pacific because I don't know that musical.

Fine.

Yeah, that's fine.

Is that all right?

Greg Buck

Can we throw

Todd Alba

some Hamilton in there last year?

I don't know all the words, but I love the music.

OK.

I'll sing it for you.

It's

Greg Buck

fine.

Todd Alba

I think we did.

I think we did a little gypsy last year.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Oh, I like gypsy.

Todd Alba

J. Matt Nair is Mama Rose.

That was

Jane Matt Nair (host)

fantastic.

I'm down for that.

I'm down for that.

Also, if you have suggestions on where we should stop, if we're coming to your town, if we're coming to Oshkosh or we're going to be in Oshkosh and Butternut and Hayward, where should we go to eat?

Where should we talk to?

What should we do?

Let us play home.

And places

Greg Buck

in between, too.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Absolutely.

Greg Buck

So coffee shops.

Cheese shops.

Cheese shops.

Record shops.

If there's a cool record shop in your town.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Ice cream

Greg Buck

places.

Todd Alba

Ice cream places.

bring a hither to unknown facts, such as, for one example, I did not know that butternut was where the butternut squash was invented.

So I'm looking forward to that.

That is true because science said so.

And the founders of that.

Greg Buck

Yeah.

That's fantastic.

That's like the city of Buffalo, New York.

That's where the buffalo were turned into wings.

See, I know stuff too.

You're welcome.

It's pretty

Jane Matt Nair (host)

random.

Well, you know, I like it.

If you're going

Greg Buck

to spring fax, I'll bring fax.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Don't he's asking why we didn't take any videos of the singing last year.

We'll rectify that.

We'll do it this year.

Todd Alba

There's reasons.

There

Jane Matt Nair (host)

are reasons.

We have to do a little editing, depending upon what we're singing.

Todd Alba, join him this afternoon from two to four across the network in the next week when we hit the road Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

Thank you so much, my friend.

I'll be listening this afternoon.

Well,

Todd Alba

see you next Tuesday down there.

They're off for the Rockcats and we'll see you next

Jane Matt Nair (host)

week.

Sounds great.

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Welcome to Matt and air on air.

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We are very, very excited to be joined by our next guest, a comedian.

a comedy writer and now an author of America.

Let me in.

Felipe Torres Medina is here.

Good morning, Felipe.

How you doing?

Hi,

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

Gene.

Jane Matt (host)

Thanks for having me, Greg.

Hello.

It is I was so amazed I texted you or I emailed you last week and I said I would love a copy of your book, which I don't know how you did that.

Seriously, that is the fastest anything has ever come through the mail.

Do you know Louis DeJoy personally?

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

But my incredible book agent, Andrew Blatt, had William Morrison, Deborah, and her assistant, Caroline, who, like, mobilized.

Because I was not home.

If I had been home, I would have mailed it to you myself.

I was doing a book event in San Francisco, so I just emailed them and was like, can you please send a book to Jane?

Greg Bach (host)

And they were very quick.

I couldn't believe it.

I think they sent it before you even asked, because literally we got it.

We're like, how is this here now?

How is this possible?

This is how easily we are amazed.

We're like, the mail

Jane Matt (host)

is so fast.

Well, now

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

you are

Jane Matt (host)

going to be in the area, correct on the 10th.

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

Yes.

On the 10th, I will be in Milwaukee at Boswell Books doing a book event with my wife, who is also an author and an Emmy award-winning comedy writer.

She writes for Last Week Tonight with John Oliver.

And so we'll be in conversation talking a little bit about America and about my book about immigration, my funny book about immigration.

Jane Matt (host)

And that's an importance.

thing to keep in mind.

This is a very serious topic, obviously, especially in the days that we are living in right now.

But you take a very lighthearted approach to explain to people all of the different processes people have to go through if they want to immigrate here, including, you know, there's, I had no idea, Felipe, until I looked at your book, how many different visas there are.

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

And that's not all of them.

That's just the one that I found like fun to write about.

Yeah.

Jane Matt (host)

I mean,

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

there's a lot of really boring ones.

Jane Matt (host)

There are, but there are exceptions, you know, for if a company wants to expand, if you want to come here to start a business, if you want to do, I mean, it is remarkable how I had no idea.

I had no idea.

And for me,

A native of this country, if I find this confusing, I can only imagine how confusing it is for people who want to move here.

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

Well, it's funny because to me, what's really interesting, having been here and been an immigrant in this country for 12, 13 years, I came here in 2013 as a 12 years almost now, is that

Americans have a lot of opinions on immigration.

Everyone in America has an opinion on immigration.

But very few people know how the system really works.

And you see it all the time in social media, and you see it all the time in conversation, you know, with your neighbors, your friends, everyone's like, oh, well, they just need to do this.

They just need to do that.

Just go through the

Jane Matt (host)

process.

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

Exactly.

Do you think the right way, which to me is the biggest myth that exists out there, because the right way changes all the time, you know, and the right way is, even now we saw like day one of the second Trump administration, the right way was to apply for asylum using an app that the government had created.

And they shut down that app within hours of the second administration starting now.

You can debate whether that's good or bad.

That's, that's.

everyone's entitled to their opinion about what that is.

But the truth of the matter, the objective truth is that the right way was that, was to do that.

And they just decided, actually, that is no longer the right way.

You cannot do that.

So the idea of coming here the right way is such a myth because it's shifting sands.

It changes all the time.

Jane Matt (host)

And we see that, unfortunately, with people in certain immigrant populations that were granted, say, temporary protected status.

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

Yeah, TPS.

TPS.

Jane Matt (host)

And now that is, that was legal.

That was legal.

These people are here legally.

And then the Trump administration decided, yeah, we're going to revoke that TPS.

And now they all have to leave.

And they've been here for 20 years.

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

Yeah.

And I think it also is a testament to the failure of the system itself.

You know, this is supposed to be a sunny book.

And I really

don't want to get too bogged down on the like the technicalities of everything.

But TPS is in and of itself, it's in its name, it's temporary.

And these people have been here for 20 years and they should have a way to stay and to remain and make they've made this place their home.

But what really this proves is that there hasn't been any comprehensive immigration reform in 30 years since Bill Clinton was president.

And so

We we have a system that's like we've been papering through the cracks papering over the cracks for 30 years and All of a sudden it's become this thing where someone can just come in and say like well I'm removing the temporary out of the temporary protected status the temporary element is over and so oh Crap we should have done the the reform so that this didn't happen

Jane Matt (host)

right

Greg Bach (host)

I

You know, and that's the thing too for me, Felipe.

By the way, if you're just joining us, we're talking to Felipe Torres Medina, who is the author of America Let Me In.

I want to rate that.

Choose your immigration story and we're talking about the book and the process.

And one thing that I feel like, you know, if you could, if you can take a step back, I'm speaking for myself right now, you see the left kick the can down the road because I feel like they were afraid to make hard choices or say the

the hard things out loud, whereas Republicans now just to get to say exactly what they've been thinking for a long time.

And this is where we are because what they are doing seems like, quote, some movement.

Like there's been very little movement, but because they're doing something, people will see us as well.

This is a start at least, right?

We'll fix it later.

We'll bring the people back who we got.

Those were all mistakes, but the problem is we're seeing even the mistakes.

They're like, nope, they can stay down in El Salvador or whatever country they're going to.

And I mean, I just feel like as you just said, it's a failure of decades for both sides to really have a frank conversation about a topic that at the end of the day, not everyone is going to agree on a solution.

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

Yeah, 100%.

And look, the system exists and there are ways to do it.

But I think a little bit of the point that I try to make in the book and a little bit of the

the things that I want to point out is the satire that exists in the book is that the system works if you have money.

Yes.

Greg Bach (host)

That

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

to me was like one of the biggest things that I found out doing all the research for the book.

You know, I found it out firsthand with my own immigration experience.

But there's also all the other kinds of visas and in truth, like having money is the biggest hack.

And what we've created is a system where

we are rewarding having money over many other things that we might need.

There's genuine examples in other countries of how things could work differently.

I remember Pete Buttigieg when he was running for president in 2020, he suggested something that I don't know if it would have worked, but it would have been different.

That was called the Heartland visa, which was visas for skilled workers in

jobs that are needed in particular parts of the heartland where there is no, where there are no people who can do those jobs.

And so that's kind of similar to the way that Canada issues province visas.

And, you know, I don't know if it would have worked, but it would have been something and it would have been different.

And we would have talked about immigration, not as something that needs to be corrected or vilified.

We would have talked about it as a way to fulfill

the promise of America, right?

To fill jobs, to make communities better.

The inaction on the left leads to the discourse of they're eating the cats and the dogs.

That is a straight line.

If you create a community, if you create a sense of like these people are coming here,

to work.

These people are coming here to build a community rather than this is they're on temporary protected status.

Technically it's legal.

I don't know.

I'm not going to talk about it really.

Just ignore it.

You create that straight line.

Whereas if you form a narrative around immigration as a positive, which it is a positive for a country and we can see it, it's tangibly a positive economically, then you can you can avoid these narratives.

in these conversations about immigration is all bad, because people in their communities will see that it isn't all bad.

Greg Bach (host)

It sounds like to me, Felipe, and I am not a very smart person, that you are saying that what we need to do is, in the overarching theme of it, is come together, have a long conversation about this, and come up with solutions.

Because what I'm hearing from you is just, these are trying to create maybe not the perfect, maybe not permanent,

but something better than we have because that's how we move forward.

And I know as a comedian, that's what you signed up for is to become an explainer of these issues to the people out there because I'm a comedian too.

I know everyone looks to me for advice.

I'm like, I have a political science degree.

Don't ask me.

I don't know.

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

Yeah.

And I mean, look, that's the other thing I've been, I've been touring with this book for a little bit, thankfully, and I've been able to go to all sorts of parts of the country.

I was in Boston where like the week or the two weeks after ICE detained this student at Tufts University who has now thankfully been released and I was in Miami last month and it's one of those things where you can see how the current administration and their policies are affecting the communities in a way that's very visceral and real and

You know in the end I'm like, but I'm a comedian, you know I totally feel the fear and I totally fear feel the sadness and You know it is really sad, but how about some jokes because that's the only way I can you know

Jane Matt (host)

well and we do that on this program you

We are living in very serious times.

We all appreciate that and we talk about that a lot.

But for the last half an hour of our show, Felipe, we call it audio sorbet, where we talk about silly, non-important things and

Greg Bach (host)

then we

Jane Matt (host)

wrap up the show with this shouldn't be a thing.

Because I just think if we don't take a moment to laugh about something, we're all gonna self-destruct.

Greg Bach (host)

Yeah, 100%.

Yeah.

I could ask you a thousand.

I have other questions I want to ask you.

Mainly I want to talk to you about just your experience with that process too.

And we can talk about that more when we come back because as you said, you are an immigrant.

You've been here for 12 years.

You know that process.

You've gone through it.

And you have a unique outlook from, you know, you work on a television show.

So I imagine that they...

that they may look at as like, well, you are working in an industry.

You are a skilled worker in that sense.

And trying to figure out what your journey through this process has been versus what other people may go through.

And I'm interested to hear about that from you as well.

Jane Matt (host)

But as you mentioned, Felipe, it takes money.

It takes

Greg Bach (host)

money

Jane Matt (host)

if you want to if you want to emigrate here This is an L1 visa.

We're not going to go into this a whole bunch But if you want to file for an L1 visa it is going to cost you four hundred sixty five hundred a hundred and ninety twenty five hundred Yeah, it's a lot of money

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

It's just fees.

Yeah, I think that those Those my wife's idea when I was writing those the book has explainers and all these visas.

It's like I think you should list

how the fees in all these

Greg Bach (host)

kinds of

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

visas, because it actually helps you prove your point.

We're going

Jane Matt (host)

to continue our conversation with Felipe Torres Medina.

He is a comic writer and the author of the book, America.

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Currently, our guest is an author.

He writes,

for late night television and he wrote, America, let me in, I choose your immigration story.

Felipe Torres Medina is here.

It's a wonderful, lighthearted look at our immigration system.

It's a lighthearted way to look at what a mess our immigration system is.

Greg Bach (co-host)

And earlier, I was alluding to the journey that you had as far as your immigration travels.

And from coming here to where you are right now in America, I'm not saying what's your status, but just what your experience is.

Because honestly, you working in television, the only thing I have is listening to John Oliver talk about his.

And he said, even as a guy who starred on television, it's still a scary process.

It's a long, expensive process with

whoops you have to jump through and I just wanted to know if you could speak on your journey thus far and what you've gone through.

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

Yeah, it's a, it's, it's a scary, long and expensive process.

I moved here in 2013.

I came here to study.

I came on a student visa.

And after that, I did something called OPT.

And this stuff is all in the book told in a like slightly fictionalized version of my life as part of, as part of one of the paths you can take in the book, because as the title suggests, it's.

kind of interactive so you can pick different kinds of visas, different kinds of stories and see which one you get, but one of these is mine.

So I got something called OPT, which is what students get to be able to work here for a year.

Some students get three years if they're in STEM.

I was in the arts, so I only got one year.

Uh, and after that, I got something called an 01 visa, which is an alien of extraordinary ability visa, which is a ridiculous name.

And you can tell how, even as I was starting to like become a comedian here, I was like surrounded by the absurd.

Yeah.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Lots of

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

material.

Yeah.

I mean, kind of, you know, because this vehicle is called alien of extraordinary ability.

It makes you sound like you're like in the X men or you're like Alf.

You know.

You

Jane Matt Nair (host)

are

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

ET.

You are ET.

Yeah,

Jane Matt Nair (host)

essentially.

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

Alf reference.

Yes.

And so, uh, you know, I was starting to kind of like come to terms with all that.

And also I had a lot of friends asking me like, Oh, like, well, you know, I had, again, these are like young liberal progressives in New York being like, Oh, but you went to school here.

So you're fine.

Right.

And I had to be like, what?

No.

You have no idea how

Jane Matt Nair (host)

the

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

immigration system works.

No, I have to get visas and I have to do it under certain timeframes.

And if I don't do it, I have to leave.

I had issues with professors at my university.

I went to Boston University, a great school.

I learned a lot.

I had professors who had no idea how the system works and they were like oh well you can just get like a barista job because I went to get my master's in screenwriting and they were like you can just move out to LA and like get a barista job and write and I was like I can't that's like legally not allowed if you're on a student visa even if you get a work permit you have to work in your area of expertise on the thing you went to school for so you can't just get like a day job a survival job and then

like work on your art on the side until you get like the big break, you know, kind of like the idealized vision of how you make it in Hollywood.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Also, can you just imagine that that was the fix?

Like just everybody just go work at Starbucks or a coffee shop.

You'll be fine.

Don't worry about it.

It's fine.

I mean, and that I think that ultimately is the root of the problem too, is that, you know, you think of the problem with this discussion being.

those who disagree and want to do extreme things, but the bigger problem I would say are those who don't, who support you, support you as a person and being here, but know almost nothing about it.

So just think, well, as long as I support them, good work on me, I'm good to go.

You know what I mean?

So they,

Jane Matt Nair (host)

they, they, they

Greg Bach (co-host)

alleviate themselves the responsibility of being proper advocates versus saying just like, I, I, I say this all the time.

I don't know.

I think you should ask an expert because I can't tell you that answer.

I don't know this experience.

Ask Felipe, but

Don't ask Felipe.

He's got other things to do.

Buy his book.

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

Well, you can ask me.

You can buy the book, but I do have to point out that I am not an immigration lawyer or an activist.

I am a comedian.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Right.

Important distinction.

I thought all comedians were activists.

That's what I've been told these past few years.

I mean, if you have a podcast, you are basically a humanitarian.

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

That's true.

That's true.

If you have a podcast, you speak the truth.

Joe Rogan talking.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Felipe Doris Medina is our guest.

He's the author of America Let Me In, a Choose Your Immigration Story.

It's very funny.

You should pick it up.

Greg Bach (co-host)

And you're going to be here.

You're going to be in Milwaukee on Thursday at Boswell Books.

I will make sure to put the information on our show notes.

And I'm pretty much sure I'm going to come down there and see.

You

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

said you and your wife are going to be there, right?

Correct.

It's there.

It's at 6 30 p.m.

at Boswell.

Perfect.

And it's a lovely little bookstore.

Love it.

Yeah.

Greg Bach (co-host)

I'll

Felipe Torres Medina (guest)

put

Greg Bach (co-host)

that in the show notes and we'll get down there and see you.

And thank you so, so much and congratulations.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

We would love to have you back.

There's a lot more to discuss.

I would love to hear some of the comments you're hearing from folks after you address them at these, at these appearances.

So we will be in touch and thank your public.

Thank your publicist again for this is the fastest book that has ever gone through the mail.

It's a miracle.

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Just let us know we're still living rent free in the United States.

This is the time we call audio sorbet, where we like to lighten things up just a little bit.

Get away from the news so we can all take a breath.

Yeah, just.

for a little bit.

National days.

There's tons of them.

There are national, Calvin, you were looking this morning.

Today is, what was today?

It's like national, it's national, national day.

It's national, national day.

There is a national day for everything.

National chocolate chip cookie day.

National cookie day.

National ice cream day.

National custard day.

If you had the opportunity.

What would be your national day 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 civic what would be your national day 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 let us know What what you would like

Greg Bach (Co-host)

to see

Today is a national chocolate with almonds day.

Well, I've never found another a better way to ruin chocolate.

You don't like you don't like nuts in your chocolate.

I don't like almonds in my chocolate or What's the other one that's terrible?

Not peanuts not peanuts peanuts are fine.

Also, not nuts actually Legumes sorry almonds and

I can't think of the other one.

Cashews.

I love cashews.

God, I'm the guy.

When you have a thing of nuts.

Are they mixed?

I take all the cashews.

They're mine.

You're the person.

They belong to me.

You are the person.

But yeah, I just, yeah.

But there's a national, when you said earlier, national spa day, I looked it up.

There's actually not a national spa

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

day,

Greg Bach (Co-host)

but it's national relaxation day.

So it gets woven in with all the.

So essentially there's a national audio sorbet day then that's really what it's coming down.

We should have that

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

we should have

Greg Bach (Co-host)

national audio sorbet day so we can all as a country forget everything we disagree on for I'll give us I'll start small 30 seconds One day a year where everybody just forgets what we all believe in yes that we disagree in with and we just for 30 seconds just all take a deep breath together and think of one thing that makes us happy like puppies I could

There will be someone who thinks puppies are annoying.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

There will

Greg Bach (Co-host)

be.

No, no, I'm not saying it has to be puppies.

I'm saying you

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

find the one thing.

You find the

Greg Bach (Co-host)

one thing that makes you happy.

Makes you so happy.

And then we all agree that there's something that makes us happy, and we take 30 seconds, National Audio Sorbet Day.

There, I did

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

it.

We can submit that.

I don't know, there must be someplace to submit these.

I'm sure it's Congress or something, so we're

Greg Bach (Co-host)

out

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

of luck.

855-752-4842, your national day, what would it be?

Cassandra on the live stream sent this in earlier, she said, I'm gonna be at my facial during Audio Sorbet, so I would like to add Dr. Pepper Day.

Fair enough well then if we're judgment-free zone if we're at any kind of day you want

Greg Bach (Co-host)

absolutely But I'm just gonna say this if we're gonna do dr. Pepper day We have to also do another day somewhere down the road mr. Pib day because mr. Pib as we know is the working man's dr. Pepper He didn't get a degree.

He just wants to get you a fine

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

fine color.

They still make

Greg Bach (Co-host)

mr.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

Pib.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

Absolutely.

They do it's delicious.

It tastes exactly like dr. Pepper Cheaper I doubt it and today's economy Jane come on now.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

Okay.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

My national day.

Yeah, because I don't think it exists.

Yeah, let's look it up.

Okay national sparkly shoe day national

Greg Bach (Co-host)

sparkly

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

I don't think it exists

Greg Bach (Co-host)

just so you know you're next so

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

I think it's I think it should be a thing

Greg Bach (Co-host)

Okay, there is no recognized holiday called national sparkly shoe day However, there is a holiday called national two different colored shoe day, which I think though not sparkly celebrates the fun of shoes

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

To me, that is specific to clowns.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

I'm

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

currently wearing a shoe with three different colors.

So what are you saying?

I assume that meant one shoe is one color and the other shoe is a different color.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

It says the day encourages people to embrace their uniqueness by wearing shoes with different colors.

White, not directly.

While not directly about sparkly shoes, the concept of celebrating individuality through footwear aligns with the idea of wearing eye-catching, perhaps even sparkly shoes.

Now, that is vague language because I don't know if they mean wear two different shoes or a shoe with different colors because I would venture that most people wear shoes of different colors because most sneakers are multi-colored.

Non-business shoes.

Yeah.

are of different colors.

So that is a weekday.

And I mean, W-E-A-K, not weekday.

So I think we need to get on this.

Sparkly shoe day needs to be a thing.

I think I could get some

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

support for that.

You can be the spokesperson, Jane.

I'll be the spokes foot.

Gross, all right.

I can actually get seat.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

Whoa, look at that.

You can't see it at all.

Just seeing some knee action

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

there.

I'm only so stretchy.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

Calvin, what would your day be?

Would be a national Greg leave me alone day because yeah, you took the words

Calvin Sweet (Producer)

right out of

Greg Bach (Co-host)

my

Calvin Sweet (Producer)

mind I don't know if I actually have a good one, but I have a bit of a funny story that relates to how odd of Person or kid I was when I was in second grade everyone we had this thing where you got to have a special Wednesday They called it where every kid got to pick a special had like a day

throughout the school year where they got to pick a theme day.

Every kid got to do this?

Every kid in second grade.

Oh cool.

That's interesting.

And you were supposed to, they pulled names out of a hat and they were supposed to, everyone was supposed to have a partner, but the two classes had odd amounts or something.

So I was the lone left and they gave me the option.

You can pick your own day or you can join a group of three.

Obviously I picked my own day.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

Naturally.

Yeah, because that's

Calvin Sweet (Producer)

you.

So being the odd little second grader I was, most kids were picking like bring your pet to school day or like dinosaur day or like that kind of thing.

My day was renaissance day.

I don't know.

I guess I got that because my aunt and uncle went to like the Renaissance fair and I heard them talking about it But I was like that's gonna be my day.

We're gonna talk about castles and swords and all that kind of stuff.

You must

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

have been really popular.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

We're gonna talk about castles and swords and jousting and people dying of the black death.

Renaissance

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

death.

For a second grader, that's pretty elevated actually.

That's pretty that's really funny Calvin.

That's pointy

Greg Bach (Co-host)

pointy if you ask me that.

some.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

Oh,

Greg Bach (Co-host)

you are.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

That is hilarious.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

Meanwhile, I'm like, I love ice cream.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

What would your national day be if you had the opportunity?

Carmella from Milwaukee texting in on W, listening on WAUK.

Good morning.

This isn't a tangible item, but I say national pay it forward day.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

Like that.

Well,

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

or national be kind day.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

Okay, I think we're going to look that up because I think there's got to be something.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

Do you think there's a pay it forward day?

Greg Bach (Co-host)

Something in that vein, kind of like how nationally sparkly shoe day doesn't have a thing.

But there it's folded in.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

I think it deserves its own day.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

National Pay Forward Day 2025.

Let's see.

April 28.

We just missed

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

it.

It is

Greg Bach (Co-host)

National Pay Forward Day.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

Here we

Greg Bach (Co-host)

go, Carmella.

PJ on the live stream says, I'm going back to shoe discussion.

I'm guessing Greg is wearing vans.

Well, PJ, you are wrong.

I'm wearing hocus because I am a 47 year old man who has ankle problems and back problems.

And I need a good support for these footsies.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

What would be your national day if you had the opportunity to suggest one and get your national day?

My national day would be sparkly shoe day.

Calvin's debating.

Andrew on the live stream, also listening on WAUK says, how about a national live free in your head day, where we celebrate in the voice the things that are living rent free.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

I would totally do that right now, buddy.

But what I'm thinking about is not FCC compliant.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

Exactly.

Yes.

I like that idea, though.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

What about you, Greg?

See, I look everything I kind of came up with had its own day or something akin to I say National Luthiers Day and like it's not very fun.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

You

Greg Bach (Co-host)

know what?

Luthiers Day.

Luthiers are people who work.

So people who make violins and guitars.

They create them.

They create our stringed instruments.

I love Luthiers.

I love the art, especially guitar making.

But they already have a National Guitar Day, which celebrates that skill.

But I just like the idea of celebrating people who have made it their life's work to dedicate themselves to what is a true.

Artful craftsmanship, and it's beautiful.

So, yeah, that would be my day.

I know.

It's

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

very

Greg Bach (Co-host)

deep.

I know, I know.

It's very deep

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

from Greg Bach this morning.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

You're very well.

Well, it's no national renaissance day, let me tell you.

Well,

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

that's true,

Greg Bach (Co-host)

few

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

things

Greg Bach (Co-host)

are.

I'd like the National Golden Age Day, please.

Thank you very

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

much.

PJ, also on the live stream, Greg National Tattoo Day is July 17th.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

Which is the exact number of tattoos I have, 17.

You do.

I have 17 tattoos.

So I will, again, I think I'm, and that might be done.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

What would your day be?

National days, there's a national day for everything.

855-752-4842-855-75 civic.

Peter, listening in Green Bay on WGBW, I don't have my own, but my favorite one is National Lost Sock Remembrance Day.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

Dude, I can't even tell you like, like just this past week, I'm like, I know I have two of these.

What?

Happen to them.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

Yeah, I when you come out of the dryer, right?

I have a stack.

I have a stack of lone socks on the on the table.

I have where I fold things.

I don't, someone ate them.

I don't know what happened to the other sock.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

Bridget has a Ziploc gallon bag full of them.

She's collected over the years.

I'm like, we can throw these out, you know, we can just start a new, right?

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

I feel

Calvin Sweet (Producer)

like my

Greg Bach (Co-host)

socks are buried in with her laundry too, because it's just, you know,

We do separate laundry just because it just makes it, I have far less laundry.

That's not a statement on women or anybody, just a

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

fact of a matter.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

But yeah, I have a feeling that if I did a real audit of our, of our basement, of our laundry area,

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

Oh,

Greg Bach (Co-host)

I found 38 socks.

Awesome.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

PJ lost socks equal missing Tupperware.

Oh,

Greg Bach (Co-host)

dude, don't get me started on.

Oh my.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

I do that once a month now.

I go through my plastics drawer and match everything and everything that doesn't match as goes.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

But what I need, Jane, is I need a system of storage for my storage.

Storage for your storage?

In our Tupperware cabinet, it's just a cacophony of items.

And it happens right, you open it up, lids on the floor.

And

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

nothing

Greg Bach (Co-host)

matches anything?

No!

And it's always just a little bit.

It's never like, oh, here's an old one and here's a circle one.

It's here's a circle container.

Here's a circle container that's just a wee too small.

Just a wee.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

National storage for storage day.

Exactly.

Whatever day you would like to have.

We hope it's a happy one.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

I think on behalf of the show, we should lobby for a National Audio Sorbet Day.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

We take a

Greg Bach (Co-host)

moment

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

out of the we gotta find out who we need to lobby for this Who do we have to approach to make this happen?

Derek van Orton's phone number.

Oh, yeah, he'll be real behind real quickly Jack from Miramac is on the line Jack.

We got about 60 seconds left.

What do you want

Greg Bach (Co-host)

to say?

National, just leave me alone, Dave, because I've had a lot of days like

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

that.

I think everyone would get behind that one, Jack.

That is fantastic.

Appreciate it.

All right, stay with us when we return.

It exists.

It does.

Greg Bach (Co-host)

October the fourth every year.

National, leave me alone, Dave.

Jane Matt and Air (Host)

Oh, God, that's hilarious.

There you go, Jack.

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at 855-752-4842.

Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter.

Coming up on the show tomorrow, Megan Kling is gonna be joining us.

She had an experience, she was pregnant, had some difficulties in her pregnancy, and she is gonna share her story.

on what happened and what she had to deal with when she went through this.

So Megan Kling is gonna be joining us tomorrow after the 9.30 news should be a very, very impactful conversation.

Greg Bach (co-host)

This is gonna be our second conversation now with someone who's gone through this.

We talked to a woman named Lauren a few months back with Dr. Lyrely.

Tomorrow we'll find that interview and link it in so you can hear both of them.

continually hearing these stories from individuals all over the country who are going through very, very...

Jane Matt and Air (host)

They can't get the healthcare they need.

Exactly.

It's essentially what it comes down to.

So, Megan Kling will be joining us tomorrow after the 9.30 news, also some breaking news that happened earlier today.

The IRS has decided that preachers can now endorse politicians from the pulpit.

They weren't allowed to do that for a really long time because they are tax exempt, and now it has been decided that they can.

So they can be preaching from the pulpit.

That's one thing we'll talk about tomorrow.

Also, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins has really good news, apparently.

The 44 million able-bodied adults who she says are on Medicaid

We got jobs on farms that are going to be opening up for you.

Greg Bach (co-host)

And Governor Evers has an advocate in rural hospital closures in a person you wouldn't have expected.

Jane Matt and Air (host)

Yeah.

Yes.

We'll be

Greg Bach (co-host)

talking more about that tomorrow too.

Jane Matt and Air (host)

Yeah, kind of a surprise from one of the Wisconsin lawmakers.

Calvin (board operator)

Yeah.

Jane Matt and Air (host)

What?

Yeah.

Okay.

It is 1050, just about 1055.

Calvin, that means it's time for.

Calvin (board operator)

This shouldn't be a thing.

Jane Matt and Air (host)

As always, if you have a thing you think should not be, send it into Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us.

Calvin found this from UPI.

Credit going out to Ben Hooper, our one of our favorite reporters.

Ben Hooper?

Headline reads, medical clinic leads for a stop to unsolicited urine samples.

A medical clinic in Scotland.

is asking local residents to stop bringing in inappropriate or unsolicited urine samples.

The Salton surgery in Abendinshire in Scotland said on social media that doctors and staff at clinic seven un-inundated with a high volume of unsolicited urine samples.

often in not approved containers instead of the sterile sample containers that you would normally do that.

Quote, please be advised, we are no longer able to accept urine samples unless they have been specifically requested by the practice.

This changes the necessary due to the high volume of inappropriate or unsolicited samples being submitted

which affects our ability to provide timely care to all patients."

Greg Bach (co-host)

Weird thing about this story, it's all

Jane Matt and Air (host)

from one guy.

Each unsolicited sample handed in requires time and testing and resources and all of those things.

One doctor, speaking anonymously, said multiple clinics have had to put up signs asking people not to bring in unsolicited urine samples.

Quote, we really, really want patients to speak to a clinician for a proper medical assessment before we ask them to ring a sample in.

And when they do, we will give them sample bottles to return instead of random containers, which can sometimes be inappropriate.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Which is a very diplomatic way of saying stop bringing us your bags of whee.

Jane Matt and Air (host)

Yeah,

Greg Bach (co-host)

no kidding.

Because remember like the old days when people would diagnose themselves on WebMD

Jane Matt and Air (host)

and they're still doing it,

Greg Bach (co-host)

but they've taken a step further.

They're like, you know, I think something's wrong Here's my year.

I'm gonna go in a bag and take it to the locals to the local place and can you run this?

I

Jane Matt and Air (host)

thought you could use this Let me know what you find.

Yeah.

Does this look weird?

The doctor said the culprits are often older patients seeking to be tested for urinary tract infections

without first consulting with a doctor.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Love, did it hurt when you did it?

No, you're good.

You're good, you're good.

This is, what I like is that a doctor had to talk anonymously, like there is a lone band of urine result seekers who are just that dictatorial and they're like, who talked?

Who said something?

Who said something?

Jane Matt and Air (host)

Here we have it.

Don't drop off your unsolicited urine samples.

in Scotland.

I think that's something we can all live by.

I feel like

Greg Bach (co-host)

that's something that America would have done.

I feel like Scotland's way more myth, way more logical.

They're like, I'm just going to pop it over to the place

Jane Matt and Air (host)

and ask.

Greg Bach (co-host)

But no, I can full blow and see Americans being like, here's a bag of pee.

Tell me about myself.

Take a look.

Jane Matt and Air (host)

Let me

Greg Bach (co-host)

know how it looks.

Jane Matt and Air (host)

That wraps up today's episode of...

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Calvin (board operator)

shouldn't be

Jane Matt and Air (host)

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