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There had been some big decisions from the US Supreme Court that should concern all of us.
Absolutely.
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We did have some decisions by the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
Yes, yes.
Kind of a surprise.
Yeah.
For some of us.
Uh, uh, Joanne, uh, Joanne Krulatz and Lucas Hunt from Civic Media have a great article on the Civic Media website.
Go to the news section.
State Supreme Court overrules.
Governor Evers votes a veto rather of GOP education bill funds to be released.
The Wisconsin Supreme Court with a liberal majority.
has handed the victory to the GOP control legislature following the court's decision to reject Governor Evers veto of a bill that would invest 50 million into student literacy.
The joint finance committee has now agreed to release the funds.
The co-chairs of the joint finance committee, Howard Markline and Max Born, say that the governor's actions were unconstitutional when he used his veto
pen.
And that is what the Supreme Court has said, unanimously.
Unanimously.
Yes.
A couple unanimous decisions yesterday by the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
If we're not going to delve too deeply into this, Pat Crichtlow is going to join us next Tuesday.
And Pat had a really wonderful explainer of this whole thing and the entire process.
I encourage you to go back and listen to Pat's podcast.
And again, you can find that at civicmedia.us, just click on shows.
But the way Pat had explained it this morning, some of the issue, again, is they're looking at procedural things.
That's in the court of law, in a court of law procedure is
everything you
cannot, it can't be, it can't be like, well, if you promise never to do it again, if you, if the court sees that the procedure has been violated, then that's the violation.
And that's why for like, I saw a lot of individuals be getting very much like, what?
It's like, this is a unanimous decision.
And if it's a procedural decision, then there's not a whole lot of, you can be, I mean, honestly,
You can do what Tony Evers did and he came out and said he thought this was a very bad decision.
He said it was unconscionable.
He said it was wrong.
But at the end of the conversation, he also said, I accept it because.
What a thought.
You know, Jane, it's almost alien at this point
to see our
leaders accept decisions that don't go their way.
Yeah, that don't go in their favor.
Who would have thought that was actually possible?
Governor Evers, after this decision was announced, said, quote, I will never apologize for fighting for our kids and our schools, not today, not ever.
Nearly $50 million to help improve our kids' reading has sat unspent in Madison for two years because Republican lawmakers have refused to release it.
I've spent two years fighting tirelessly to get Republicans to release that money, including suing to force them to do so.
12 lawmakers shouldn't be able to obstruct resources that were already approved by the legislature and the governor to get our kids up to speed.
As you said, Governor Evers said it is unconscionable the Wisconsin Supreme Court is allowing the legislature's indefinite obstruction to go unchecked.
But he said now again, I urge Republicans to release that nearly $50 million investment to improve reading and literacy across our state.
And maybe that's a question we can ask Jim if we have a chance to get to it.
But that is a bigger discussion point is it's if the court has decided on procedural.
that this was not right and against Tony Evers.
That's one thing, but this, this isn't the only money that the JFC is sitting on.
So that can, is that something that can be taken?
Is that
explored?
Because right now you've got the PFAS money that needs to be released.
$125 million needs to be released.
It's needed to be released since, I don't know, I've been at this company.
I think there is another issue here at play is that every time they get a hold of money that needs to go out to the world, if it's something they don't like,
they'll hold on to it.
And that
doesn't help the people of Wisconsin in a Robin Voss representative democracy.
Well, it's Robin's money, and we're just lucky if we get to benefit from it, essentially.
The other decision that came out from Wisconsin Supreme Court yesterday, court refuses.
to hear challenges to Wisconsin's congressional district boundaries.
The second time in two years, the court has declined to hear challenges from Democrats.
The decision was made without explanation from the court.
That is a setback, this from WPR for Democrats who had been hoping for new lines.
Democrats had asked the court to redraw the maps, which could, would have put two of Wisconsin's six congressional seats currently held by the GOP into play.
But as I mentioned, this is the second time in as many years the court refused to hear that challenge.
Big win for GOP here in Wisconsin.
It is.
Another unanimous decision.
Yeah, absolutely.
And
it's, I don't know, it sucks.
But I don't want to, to me, that's an emotional response to a non-emotional.
Answer from them like they don't they're not sitting here going well, you know, you know, like how do I feel about this?
They're looking at the reasons why it's base.
It's based in procedure It's based in facts and if they decided not to unanimously not to take it It's a it's a liberal majority court
I don't think they're in the pocket of the GOP.
I'm not going to sit there and spin conspiracy theories.
So if they didn't hire it, there's probably a good reason why they didn't.
And that just means that those who want to run for those seats have to run harder.
And I
also think it's just interesting to me that the whining, it's just the whining that constantly comes from one side.
And I would like to see some acknowledgement from the Republicans that the governor has accepted this decision that went against him.
Instead of, I don't know, suing the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which seems to be something that the administration is kind of really embracing.
Well, I mean,
it's... And will the court, will this Supreme Court get any credit now?
For?
For...
Making decisions that go against the Democratic governor because I remember all the warnings when we were leading up to this last election Oh my gosh, you give it over to the liberals and oh well the judgments that will be coming will be unbelievably wacko
and I this may be an unpopular opinion But I don't think we should be doing either but on other side because when When Amy Coney Barrett Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh came to the Supreme Court We thought it was going to be the death and destruction of this country at like period
At least in the case of Amy Coney Barrett, she's made some decisions on the side that the liberal justices that have been confounded and angered the Trump administration.
I think when it comes to the Supreme Court, whether you're talking about the state or the country, they're going to make decisions that you don't like.
And some of them are going to have huge impact.
I'm not going to say that Dobbs wasn't, I'm not going to say Dobbs wasn't important.
It's an important point in this country.
But when it comes to the Supreme Court, they like to spin them as like, oh, if it's liberals, it'll be nothing but birth control and communism in
the street.
But it's not.
And we overplay it.
And no, to answer your question, Jane, the Republicans will give them no
credit.
Because if you look at their response after the decision was made regarding the Joint Finance Committee, it was nothing but laced with
Republican talking points about how terrible Tony Evers are and the Democrats and how they're trying to tax and spend it's like They're never gonna stop playing politics with these things and they're never gonna stop using the Supreme Court's as a Puppet and a way of getting of scaring people into voting one way because if we have liberal justice
Well, I know
where
it's all going to
help
if
we have conservative judge, I mean judge Hagedorn
Judge Hagedorn has been a big disappointment to some so I mean for me personally and that's something I learned in school is like when it comes especially the Supreme Court it's it's not totally without emotion but whenever there's a here a decision like this that comes down my my thought is always like okay well then there there are reasons
Well, they're looking at the law.
They should be looking at the law.
And that's why they publish decisions and they put forth and they give you precedent and you might not like it, but you kind of have to swallow it and say, all right, that's a battle for another day.
Well, and I'm sure this will come up again because again, they made this decision without giving any explanations, at least as far as the new lines.
Well, and that's why I would like it.
I would like an answer too, because if it's the second time in as many years and they're saying no and there's not saying why, then those who want to fight for.
different congressional maps, how do they, I don't want to say improve, but how do they come back with new information?
What
do they have to go
on?
One of the criticisms I saw this morning, it was the Elias group that brought one of these lawsuits, trying to push for redrawn lines.
And one criticism I saw this morning was that they used the same argument that they used two years ago.
So they didn't bring anything new to this argument.
And why they thought they were maybe they thought because again, that it's liberal control now, maybe they thought there was going to be a different response.
I think that's, I think that is fair.
I think that's a fair assumption.
I won't say it's the reason.
I don't know why, but I think it's a fair assumption.
It's like, well, we have new people and they all seem to, you know, you know, if they're buttered, so yeah.
So, but then the court might have to say like, Hey, come back with something more, be more persuasive.
While some different, try some different arguments, the last two didn't work.
Yeah, exactly.
I know I know I know but yeah, I just well and again, I think I just think We can all take a collective breath.
Yep and You're right.
I it's ridiculous of me to expect that the liberally controlled Wisconsin Supreme Court would get any props from the other side But one can hope
well, I'll just but you know what though?
I'll give props onto Tony Evers who?
has his emotions in it, and he has his opinions in it, but at the end of the day, he's not gonna yell at the court, he's not gonna yell at Republicans, he's not gonna yell at the media.
He's just
gonna
say, all right.
That's
it.
Jim from Brookfield texting in.
Good morning.
No, the state Supreme Court will not get any credit for not siding with the Democrats.
Robin Voss will be shouting bias as soon as a decision goes against the Republicans.
Jim from Brookfield.
Thank you so much for checking in, Jim.
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I wanted to start off with this because we've talked numerous times tragically about the incredible competence of the Trump administration.
And I still maintain they don't game anything out until the end.
They don't look for consequences.
They don't they don't think if we do a
Here is what could happen with BCND.
I don't think they look at those
things.
To say otherwise, I believe would be ridiculous to say that they're sitting in a room like a war room and planning things
like a
boiler room like like hear
the strategies and if this happens what good could happen from this and what could happen from this Here is yet another example of how they do not game things out until the end from NBC News Fired rehired and fired again some NOAA employees now are getting letters demanding money.
What?
At least three workers who worked for NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, who were fired, rehired and fired again, now say they've gotten debt notices from the government to pay it back for health care coverage, which is coverage they never had.
These three former NOAA employees shared letters with NBC that say, demand notice for payment.
Claiming the former NOAA employees owe money, sometimes hundreds of dollars and interest, warning that the debt would be reported to a credit bureau if it is not paid.
I don't, I don't, I don't understand, but I, I've been fired before.
I've never gotten a letter saying
it.
Say you
owe me.
Owe you for anything.
That doesn't seem like.
something that should be a thing.
I'm
truly confused.
This is NBC News reporting this, a former special assistant for NOAA says, quote, they're trying to bill me for health insurance after I was fired.
I had no coverage.
It's just more salt in the wound on how incompetent all of this has been, unquote.
Meanwhile, a NOAA spokesperson.
Said the agency can't comment on ongoing personnel matters and sent them over to the Office of Personnel Management.
A spokesperson there said they don't have payroll information or any other records like that, so they can't help you.
And the Commerce Department, which oversees NOAA, also had no response.
Smooth machine, smoothly, so well-oiled machine.
After NBC News asked about this problem with NOAA, probationary employees got an acknowledgement of a possible error from the agency.
Quote, our office has been made aware you may have gotten a date note, a debt note from the National Finance Center.
Please know we're working to resolve this.
No need of action right now.
We'll keep you updated.
All I'm doing right now is thinking of all those times I've been on the phone with customer service and they say to talk to a person dial three Bebe Welcome to the customer service.
What are you talking about?
Put you back through the circle.
Yeah,
exactly.
This is
this is and this and this is the this is the the company i'm just gonna call him a company now because this is what it feels like this is the company that's running our wars running our everything it's they if they can't get this right no wonder why like you're like like peace has been achieved and iran's like oh no it has not exactly there's just it's there is this is i we were talking about this last week
It's not even going with your gut anymore.
It's just, let's see what happens.
Not like I have a really good feeling about this.
If we do this, it's
like,
hey guys,
hey guys, send the letters out, see what
happens.
Sabrina Valenti, a former budget analyst at NOAA says, I was fired four months ago and I still don't have proof that I was fired.
And other workers say they can't access their health benefits that should have been able available to them during reinstatement.
One worker, one former worker at NOAA said she had surgery in April when she was on administrative leave.
After she had the surgery, she found out her health coverage is not active.
But at least thank goodness NBC stepped in and alerted the people within this agency that this is going on, because otherwise it doesn't seem like they had any idea.
But that's the bigger problem is that in order for them to do something, light has to be shown down to make them
This is, this is the gentleman in Missouri with his farming all over again.
He didn't get his payment.
He put something out there.
He got a lot of attention.
He got his payment.
And now he's like, Trump is amazing.
So now that NBC has come out there and say, and also us, cause you know, we're, we're speaking
of
NBC.
They'll probably fix it within the next two weeks.
We'll probably hear something in a blurb somewhere on a website.
Well,
it's on NBC to follow up on this and to make sure something actually gets done.
I think if you get fired.
via the Senate administration and through DOES, you shouldn't have to show any proof.
They'd be like, how'd you lose your job?
And you'd go,
DOES.
And like, fair enough, leave it at
that.
News is coming up next.
When we return, Jim Santel will be here.
We're going to talk about a number of decisions from the U.S.
Supreme Court.
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It's fantastic.
It's called Amicus Law Review.
Jim Santel is here, acting attorney, former U.S.
attorney.
Having you here gives us the ability to say, Jim, we are attorney adjacent.
Absolutely.
And it's great to be adjacent with you.
every Thursday morning, maybe even more than that.
And so I'm glad
to be with you once again.
Glad to have you
with us,
Jim.
There have been a couple of decisions that have come out from the Supreme Court this morning before we're going to move on to talk about another decision we want to cover.
But what has happened this morning?
Sure, we've got 10 decisions going into this morning yet to be decided.
Four of them, the one that's going to attract the most attention, not to minimize the significance of the others, is case involving Planned Parenthood.
And it is arguably about abortion as well.
The issue is whether or not it came out of South Carolina.
2018, there's a governor there who yanked Medicaid funding for the state's two Planned Parenthood clinics there.
And again, what happens is that the court determines whether or not that is legal, basically under the Medicaid statutes and laws.
and finds in the end that by a six to three majority write down lines as we often talk we've got a majority saying no that the challengers basically including a patient of one of the clinics who brings this lawsuit saying you're depriving me of my right to medical care uh basically the court says you're out of luck you do not have a right of action under the Medicaid laws to sue
And for that reason, your case is over.
And so it's a, again, it is a very significant case.
Arguably less about abortion, but it really is about abortion just because of the Medicaid cast that it has.
And again, six to three, you've got, as far as I can tell, already some scathing descends from the dissenters, not surprisingly.
And then three other cases.
We're still waiting for what it's worth.
Let's do the inventory here very quickly.
We've
got at least six other cases involving that thing called birthright citizenship.
We've got LGBT books in schools for children.
We've got the preventive health care matter involving whether or not insurance companies have to provide preventive health care according to the recommendations of some task forces and a couple of other matters as well.
There's a race and redistricting case as well.
Many, many things going on here.
We're going to be obviously attentive.
I think they're going to come back again tomorrow, maybe next week, but this is that feverish time and this morning is no exception.
Just the cases you're going over there.
I mean, LGBTQ books in the schools, it just, I mean,
I don't want to say it's a waste of time, but it feels like there's other things they could be doing.
This is such a ridiculous point to be taking all the way to the Supreme Court.
This seems like a book banning issue, which on the face of the Constitution seems like, well, this shouldn't even make it out of the lowest courts.
It should just be like, no, you let the books be there.
But the other one, the...
Now I'm there's so many now you just mentioned but
the preventive health care perhaps under Obamacare.
Yeah, I mean that one can just I mean that was one of the the main selling points of the entire package to begin with is that you can now get your mammograms you can get your physicals you can get there's so many opportunities to stay healthy because as we know healthy citizens Add to the economy are better for the economy,
right?
And again, tend not, therefore, earlier on when they're healthy, not to have to use health insurance, has that economic impact as well.
And here the challenge again is, again, as to Obamacare, task forces, medical people, again, know what they're talking about, they're the experts, and they say, you know what?
These cancerous screenings, for example, they do, Greg, to your good point, they do, in fact, help our society.
They keep you aware of the fact.
If you may have a serious disease, and they're preventive in nature, and the challenges to whether or not these task forces are legitimate, you get rid of the task forces.
Presumably, you get rid of preventive care under Obamacare as well.
I'm hopeful on that one based upon the oral arguments.
We'll see.
Always hard to predict.
We'll see.
But it appears that maybe, maybe we've got a majority of the Supreme Court who is going to say once again, that's going a bit too far.
And these task forces are properly constituted, therefore saving it.
But once again,
It is a dangerous enterprise, as all three of us know, to predict what the Supreme Court may or may not do.
Again, that just doesn't make any sense to me.
The whole ma-ha thing.
Okay, we're gonna make America healthy again.
Let's all get healthy.
Let's all wear wearables.
Let's all be conscious of our health.
But let's not cover...
early screenings.
That's completely
backwards.
Let's not endorse vaccines.
I would think every health professional is going to say that any dollar we spend pre-hospitalization is going to be a better dollar than the ones when you're in hospital.
Right.
And frankly, again, in the category of the word amicus, you've got a whole bunch of amicus briefs friends of the court written Jane just by those medical providers saying, this is a good thing.
Let's prevent disease.
Let's prevent health care challenges.
The other piece of this, of course, that really animates it maybe at its beginning is.
that among the preventive care is for PrEP and other HIV preventive medicines.
So once again, that's probably wagging this dog.
We just don't like anything related to that disease, and in particular, the LGBTQIA community.
Plainly others can also incur and get HIV, but that's probably behind this too.
Very sad.
In 2025, the year of our Lord, I never understood.
I just like saying that.
During Pride month, this is a, this is a message to all of you, conservative, gays, lesbians, whatever, queer friends.
You thought you were voting for Trump, maybe because you don't really believe in the trans movement that freaks you out or whatever, but the trans groups, the trans individuals were the first group to go after.
Yes.
You are next.
All burger fell is next.
Yeah.
Right.
It is.
There are already legislative initiatives percolating up in state courts to overturn Obergefell and attack that.
They may not get to our national attention right away.
But you're right, Jane.
You're right, Greg.
This is a part of an overall national initiative.
We've got the power now.
We've got the Supreme Court.
We've got the White House.
We have the Congress, too, not that they engage in any of this.
They're completely ineffective in many of these areas.
But let's move on this.
This is that opportunity.
And it sets back things.
As Sonia Sotomayor says, Galena Kagan, Khatajibran Jackson, a whole series of dissents in many cases, including one
actually involving fuel providers and fuel manufacturers from just Friday.
She talks about how the court is going to be seen more and more as a corporate entity that protects corporations.
And that's not what America looks to the court to do.
Those are the challenges when these things happen.
The impressions of Americans about what their highest court and other branches of government do, they're all important.
And today we are really in a bad, we are in a fight.
And we're in a bad situation because of the need to push back on all of that.
Well, a good day for Amy Coney Barrett.
She's back in good graces again, because she does things Republicans don't like, and then she does something like this, and she's back in the fold.
It's all good.
Jim Santel is here.
He's host of Amicus Law Review on Saturdays across the network from 9 until 11.
We are going to talk about this now.
Jim, switch gears a little bit.
This decision by the Supreme Court essentially gives the President a green light for the deportation programs lower courts have found unlawful.
You've got a judge.
His name is Brian Murphy, one of those district court judges who is the bastion.
He's the standard pushing back on this.
This comes out in part that South Sudan case from a number of weeks ago when we had those folks, again, deported and deportable.
They're criminals.
They're violent criminals.
And the question is when you deport them, nobody disputes that you can or cannot deport them.
The question is in our law,
You've got to give them an opportunity to know where they're going, where the plane will land.
And ultimately, to object to that, that's due process.
Brian Murphy says, before you do this, I guess, deport these people.
Go ahead, do that.
Before you do that, give them that due process.
Again, multiple problems here, what the Supreme Court does on Monday.
Again, here we go, my friends.
The shadow docket emergency order here.
One sentence basically says we're overturning the lower court, and Donald Trump, you can go ahead and deport these people.
Fascinating because by Monday afternoon, Tuesday morning, the judge says, I'm looking at this order.
It's a non-order.
Nothing about it, Supreme Court.
overrules my order from a couple of months ago, and he directs the Department of Justice to continue to give them due process.
Of course, the White House goes crazy and says, we're running back into court.
We've got to beat you.
The Supreme Court, you got to tell this out of control judge that he is out of control.
Stop that from happening.
And that's where we are today, in part because of the craziness of the deportation problem to begin with, not doing it according to due process.
And it is aggravated by the fact that we've got a Supreme Court that is no longer giving you reasons for doing what it is doing in these major situations.
And the lower district court doesn't take advantage of it, does what a judge should do, and says, I'm looking at these two things.
They're not inconsistent.
And even though, as you've noted, the representative of the White House says, get those deportation planes going.
Get them on the tarmac.
The reality is that it's confusing.
It is a mess.
And we have that yet to decide now by the Supreme Court.
Another back again.
What does John Roberts say now about what his his order was on Monday?
It's it's craziness.
Well, this actually harkens back to what we were speaking to earlier regarding the congressional maps with Wisconsin State Supreme Court.
They give no decision.
They give no reason.
And to me and what you and what you're saying, I'm hearing, Jim, is that when the court gives little to no reason why they they decide on something.
That gives the lower courts the reason, well, you didn't tell me, so I'm going to do it anyways.
And why does the court, whether it's state supreme or US supreme, not have a responsibility to provide explanation for their
decisions?
Explain their arguments.
Exactly.
And some of this has got to happen fairly quickly.
Question again, largely, if this emergency docket really is all that a bunch of emergency in many of these cases.
But beyond that, you know what?
You, all three of you, including Calvin, everybody at Civic Media, lawyers, judges, medical people, teachers, masons, bankers, everybody out there.
Sometimes you have to pull an all-nighter, right?
And you've got to sit down and say, okay, I'm going to issue this tomorrow at noon.
Get the law clerks in here.
We've got to write all this out.
And yeah, it may keep you from your home in Georgetown or Bethesda, but for that evening, but you got to get this done and you got to tell us.
That's a really important point.
I'll take my tongue out of my cheek.
You got to tell us what is going on here.
So number one, the American people have some sense of the reason for your doing what
you're
doing.
And then to the point that we're also making, there's instruction to the lower courts absent that you've got mayhem.
And that's really what's going on right now on Thursday morning with respect to these
deportees.
They're apparently in Djibouti right now, and they're in some conference room, and we don't know what their status is.
They're giving him a little bit of due process.
And again, Stephen Miller going nuts, of course, with the Judge too, saying we've got to brain him in.
Lots of bad behavior going on here, and none of it needed.
None of it focusing on the real issues in America.
We've only got about a minute left, Jim, before we go to break.
I just do want to say it certainly seems like the Roberts Court has embraced this shadow docket like no other Supreme Court we have ever, ever had.
Absolutely.
My count, it might be a loft, but 19, 19 emergency orders since January 20th.
All of them.
One sentence, unsigned.
Yes, you get a sense who the dissenters are, but that's about it.
And sometimes they do write dissents, but that's pretty much it.
That's not the way this should work.
We're going to continue our conversation with Jim Santel on the other side.
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This broke Jim as we were in break there.
I wanted to talk about this just briefly.
US House bill would prohibit federal immigration agents from wearing masks while making immigration arrests.
This was sponsored by two Democrats from New York state.
I don't understand how it's okay that we have people in jeans and jackets and flannel shirts with masks on who are not required to identify themselves and just can snatch people off the street and throw them in a van.
I don't understand how that's legal in this country.
I don't understand it either in practice.
There are some great problems with it.
The general policy is in the federal system.
you are transparent.
And if you're going to arrest Jim Santel, you show up at the door, you show up at his place of work and the street, and you say, my name is Greg Bach, and I am a nice agent.
I am here to arrest you.
I've got a warrant, or I've got probable cause to do so.
That's not only is good law enforcement.
What else does it do?
It ensures that there's nothing disastrous that happens, right?
Virtually everybody knows that if you've got a police officer who's going to arrest you, what you don't do is take that police officer on.
It will go badly for every body.
including you.
So it minimizes the danger of that already confrontational engagement.
It ensures transparency for the government, all good things.
There are some remote and sort of small areas where because of maybe an undercover operation, thwart operations, maybe you don't do it there.
But the general federal principle is openness.
And we let you know what's going on.
The other piece of this, I'm guessing that the legislation is prompted also by legislative history that shows us, you've reported on this, you've talked about this more and more.
You've got these incidents where people are showing up in garages and places who are not law enforcement.
And they say they are.
And the next thing you know, we've got attempted kidnapping, some of them are thwarted, some of them are not.
That can't be America either.
Minnesota, he dressed up as an officer.
Got entry and exactly right right so this is good it again in the category of why should we have to do this the answer is we do just because Apparently, I'm embarrassed to say we've got federal law enforcement to state law enforcement We're not doing their jobs in a professional way not the great majority of them are but these folks who are doing this with the masks on looking like ninja warriors
That is not consistent with anything that I understood for 30 years of law enforcement.
And I am horrified by it, again, with those narrow exceptions of urgent and
undercover
operations.
Yes, of
course.
And this may be a horribly naive question in the light of today's court system and all that stuff.
Doesn't it also present an opportunity for a lawyer to come in and say, well, I want to challenge this arrest because the person didn't identify themself.
They weren't trusted.
There was no, this was, and they were not part of one of these emergency operations that require undercover officers to participate.
This was literally showing up to, showing up to a Walmart and arresting someone and just taking them away.
doesn't that provide grounds for appeal?
Or because these are immigration cases, no one seems to care that much.
But I feel like that that first step of being completely shielded and not having any sort of idea on you means that like they have a right to fight that their constitutional right are violated.
It should, right?
We've talked before in other circumstances about a notion called prosecutorial misconduct, law enforcement misconduct.
And yes, indeed, ultimately it may well be that the arrest would have happened, but there is something in our nation's DNA that says, in the moment, you have a right to be treated fairly and decently.
That's implicit if not explicit in our constitution.
And again, bad things can happen.
There can be 1983 actions alleging, again, a violation of civil rights, those kinds of things.
That's a civil action.
but all kinds of things can flow from it.
And you add that into other challenges to the underlying prosecution that go to the substance of the charges.
And in the end, you've got a laundry list for the judge to take a look at who may say, in the end, maybe one or two of these things, I'm going to overlook, but you've got a whole series of problems with law enforcement acting as it is.
And for that reason, I'm going to dismiss the charges or I'm going to sanction the government in some way.
Judges can do those kinds of things when they see these kinds of violations.
Again, I just don't understand how we think this is okay.
In this country, are we teaching our nine-year-olds that if a white unmarked van pulls up when you're riding the bike in front of the house and unmasked, unidentified men jump out, you should just jump in the van, Susie.
Is that what we're teaching our kids?
No, we're not.
So don't tell me that this is okay, that this is...
that this is American justice.
And that's the practical problem on the streets for youth, for adults.
And we've seen that
as we have just been
talking.
It is unfortunately increasing in number and ferocity.
Greg, you just mentioned the horrific disastrous catastrophe of the assassinations in
Minnesota,
other instances of it as well.
That's what animates this good legislation.
It probably won't see the light of day inside this house because of the political realities there.
But that's where we are.
Listen to Jim Santel, Saturdays 9 to 11 across the network.
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Thank you so very much for your time, my friend.
We will see you in a week.
Always a pleasure, my friends.
And we'll look forward to more Supreme Court cases coming out.
And we'll talk to you about all those as well.
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There's a visual element that will be worth it wanted to talk about this a little bit This is from the Wisconsin examiner GOP mega bill still stuck in US Senate
as disputes grow over hospitals and more.
Yeah, some Republicans are realizing, again, consequences.
Consequences of evictions.
Or they're realizing voters.
You know, gaming it out to what are potential outcomes of this.
Yeah, they're hearing from a lot of their constituents saying, if you kill Medicaid, I'm going to die.
And
so this is the hold up.
Yeah.
US Republicans.
Senate Republicans still deeply divided over how to set up a fund for rural hospitals.
Dr. Lierly, we had her on last week, she talked about this.
There are at least two hospitals, one she works at.
in rural Minnesota, in Hibbing, Minnesota, another in northern Wisconsin who essentially said if they do this, these hospitals are going to close.
That's on top of the two hospitals and I believe 19 clinics that closed last year
in western Wisconsin.
They are still waiting for that money.
The joint finance committee is still sitting on that money that was approved to try and help them out after those hospital closures.
And now we'll have to see.
Wisconsin Republican Senator Ron Johnson casting doubt on getting this passed anytime quickly.
Quote, we're still discussing some pretty fundamental issues, says Rojo.
I'm just laying out the reality of the situation.
We've got a lot of work to do, unquote, because of course, Ron doesn't want this to pass because he wants there to be deeper cuts.
There should be more cuts.
Yes,
yeah.
I really have to give it up to Ron Johnson for just bulldozing his way to the front of this conversation and trying to paint himself as the hero of the story of, this isn't good enough.
Cause when people hear that, they tend to think, Oh, it's not good enough.
It's going to be okay.
No, no, no.
He doesn't care about your hospitals.
No, he does not care about your Medicaid.
It does not care about your Medicare.
It does not care about your SNAP benefits.
It does not care about anything.
As we've seen proof positive.
five years ago when he did the same thing with the last budget or not the last budget, but that budget
was the
holdout.
He was the holdout because he couldn't get the deep cuts for him and his buddies.
And that was why the bill wasn't good, not because it's, it's, it's threatening the voters and their safety, their health and all
those
things.
It's because he needs a, he needs a eighth boat, Jane, to get him to his seventh
bigger boat.
I don't know if it's a boat so much.
I thought it was more planes.
I thought it was kind of into planes.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, yeah, personal planes.
It's just, it's,
but this is, this goes back to what you were saying earlier in the show, which is this bill, like you want to put, you want to, you want to put cuts for your buddies in there.
Fine.
You're going to do it.
I don't have the power to stop you.
And I know that sounds depressing, but you actually have some power folks, my vote.wi.gov.
Tell them what you think you can call.
But it's the, it's the notion of, uh, build some things into it too.
Like,
Build some funding for hospitals or build some fun like You can still have a lot of your money and even if you if you if you reduced the tax cuts by a little bit You're still gonna get a lot of
money and I thought about that too because yeah The tax cuts is a are a big part of why the the Senate want or why Republicans want this bill to pass to Continue the 2017 tax cuts.
Yeah, why can't we just lessen some of those a little bit?
That would help save some money.
To me, it's a true, it has to be a true, and I'm not even adjacent to this, but psychological addiction to money, you have to have the most money because they won't stop until they get everything.
And they want all the money.
They want all of the billions.
That's the only thing I can think of.
There's no...
altruistic reason why these cuts work other than to feed the money and power of the of the rich and the richer getting richer every moment so Those things of saying like we want to make sure we protect Medicaid Medicare snap we want to make sure hospitals are built a budget which funds things so you can say here's what we did and They're still gonna take their money like you know what I mean like it like now.
It's so brazen at this point
they are showing they do not care and then the moment that regular folks start speaking up they go oh oh oh shoot we didn't think about that as you said
again they don't think about anything well they don't look further down the road if we do a what is z yeah which i would think
is important in government to look at consequences or things that happen when you make a decision.
The other thing that I keep waiting for to see because we keep hearing about all this waste, fraud and abuse and Medicaid and Republicans are going to fix it.
You know, they're not they're not kicking anybody off.
They're going to make it more efficient.
They're saving a change.
Yes, they're saving Medicaid for those who genuinely actually need it.
What is the process that they're going to go through in order to do this?
I have been waiting for anyone to give me details about the finding waste, fraud, and abuse in Medicaid.
What is that process?
How are you going to do this?
The only thing I can think of is to make everyone reapply for the benefits they are already receiving.
Well, it's something actually, don't they already do that?
In order to get benefits, you have to, you have to, maybe not reapply, but you have to show proof.
of
need every six months.
Well, they wanted every six months.
I believe it's once a year right now.
But there's an easy way, Jane, of doing that.
And if Elon Musk would have come in here and said, I want to set up, and he didn't call it Doge, because that is ridiculous.
But he would have said, hey, I think it's a great idea if we set up hearings that looks at
All the entitlement the social safety now because there is waste without abuse within those social safety to the tune of billions of dollars because those are huge pots of money There are ways of doing it where we say all right for the first two years of this administration We're going to have we're gonna have talks.
We're gonna have hearings.
We're gonna have reports We're gonna have experts.
We're gonna study this and then we're gonna come back to you after the midterms with something to say here are our recommendations Here's how we can do it.
Here's what we found but
Jane, I'm speaking like a fair-minded level-headed adult right now, who just thinks to myself, well, Jane, if I personally go out and spend $2,000 tomorrow on a scooter, a moped, I won't be able to pay my mortgage.
I'm thinking ahead, you know?
I'm thinking about how do we fix these problems that are real problems, but we do it in a way that is smart.
and is long, long-term goal
oriented.
And precise.
And precise.
And precise.
But that's not what they do, Jane.
Well, no, they kind of came in and just blew everything up thinking that would go well.
Unofficial details show Senate Republicans are looking at the inclusion of a $15 billion fund to help rural hospitals.
That's $3 billion a year between 2027 and 2031.
Robert J. Marshall, who is on the Senate Committee on Finance, would like that to
increase to five billion annually.
Yeah, because they're talking about cutting, I mean, billions and billions of dollars for Medicaid.
I would like to see your evidence of waste, fraud and abuse.
I mean,
I'd go to the Doge site, but is it even in existence anymore?
It probably
hasn't been
updated in a while.
I haven't looked at it either.
I mean, it's well, big balls has gone now.
So.
Dear FCC that was a statement made in context
I'm just saying it out loud
balls bounced out the door.
He's done here
like the alliteration
But that's a great that's a great point Jane you bring up because and we spoke about this
in a couple times before, former Doge employee saying that he found not only is there not as much waste, fraud and abuse as they were claiming, he was looking for the real thing.
He wanted to help.
He left because there was not
as
mine enough.
And he said he was surprised at how efficient the government runs.
And I'm telling you right now, I mean,
I don't know the amount of rural hospitals there are in this country, but to me, $15 billion doesn't even seem to scratch the surface of what they need.
There aren't
any operating at a loss and probably still firing employees, thinking about, because that's the other conversation that's not being had is that, you know, we talk about those two hospitals in Western Wisconsin.
It was two hospitals and that's bad enough as it is.
But the clinics, but the 19 clinics that closed as well.
This has a ripple effect that I'm sorry, $15 billion.
Thanks for the birthday money.
That's not what we need.
We need a real solution.
Yeah, thanks for the birthday card.
Yeah, that was really nice.
And again, we hear so much about the struggles rural areas are having with attracting population and all of those things.
Hospitals are a key part of that.
If we want to we want to encourage folks to move to more rural areas, they need a hospital that's at least
Within 60 miles.
I mean that's it's it's that is When we're talking about like a family moving into a neighborhood or a place that they're gonna look at the school district They're gonna look at access to hospitals.
They're gonna look at roads They're gonna look at local they're gonna look at all these things and if those areas have nothing to offer They're gonna move to the
big cities.
Yep When we return
Brittany Merleau will be here.
Civic Media's award-winning meteorologist.
Brittany's going to join us for a little weather and wine.
Find out.
I believe we do have some storms that are expected to still move across Wisconsin.
And then we'll see what happens.
It's going to get really, really hot on Sunday again.
I know.
It's not even the good storms.
They're like, oh, I feel good and cooled off.
It's like, oh, it's hot rain.
That sticky rain.
Brittany's on the way.
So stay with us.
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Greg's very happy.
I'm very happy.
I know you are very happy.
I'm very happy.
We are very happy to be joined by our friend and colleague and multi-award winner, Civic Media's meteorologist, Britt Niemer Lowe is here.
Good morning, lady.
How you doing?
I'm doing pretty good actually in a hoodie right now because temperatures are so drastic across the state
You're while you're in was it's really hot down here.
We're in Racine and it's got to be 85 degrees and really sticky again
Yes, you've got that heat that front is draped from La Crosse to about Milwaukee places north you're in the 50s and 60s
It is 54 degrees right now at a superior Wisconsin.
Whoa.
My windows will be open and I would just be, it's so insulting too.
And it's like, it's 83 degrees.
Oh, but it feels like 90.
Oh, come
on.
Yep.
I hate doing that.
And I'm always the bad news bearer, of course.
And it does feel like the mid 90s down south today.
Very gross, still hot humid, but you've got some sunshine.
We've got a lot of clouds up north.
We've got foggy conditions in the middle of the state.
and the low pressure system is finally going to move through.
So the front won't sit here any longer after today.
So that's good news, right?
That is good news.
So we do have some, are we going to be expecting storms across the state later on today?
Yes, we are.
So they're gonna start to spark up around three o'clock or so, mainly off to the west, but there could be a little line that does wanna move towards Milwaukee.
So keep an eye out for that this afternoon.
We could see some severe weather, mainly from La Crosse into central areas, a little bit north of Madison, that's all the area.
It wants to weaken as it goes towards Lake Michigan.
That's what's gonna happen again.
So isolated storms out first, high winds, possibly a tornado in some areas.
Yep, the atmosphere is just got a lot of juice to work with.
Yeah, it's
just sitting there.
There's so much moisture in the air.
You can just you can feel it.
I had to have my wipers on this morning.
Yeah, there was a lot
of
condensation on my window when I left this morning.
I'm making me sweat just thinking about
it.
And her nice little great like sweatshirt up there in Wausau.
Will this get rid of the humidity then when these storms finally break through?
Yes.
So.
It's the good news.
It's going to be comfortable tomorrow.
We're going to be in the upper 70s to mid 70s for next week.
And it's going to be a dry stretch too, which is really awesome news.
We even had days strung together with dry conditions statewide in months.
Where are we drought wise?
Are there areas that really don't need any more moisture, any more rain?
Pretty much.
Yeah, we don't need any more
rain.
We don't.
Oh,
okay.
We're done.
Yeah, we're done.
It was weird because yesterday I had a notification on my phone saying it's storming out in Racine and there was no storms whatsoever.
I just was very weirded out by that.
They were like, we don't need rain.
Well, we're not getting rain.
It's not raining.
Why is it telling me it's raining?
I was very weirded
out.
Oh, that's weird.
Was it a hydraulic outlook?
Sometimes those are confusing.
That's what you were checking, isn't
it?
It's gonna
flood in
the next few days.
But I mean, flash flooding is a concern, especially for areas that are already pretty saturated.
Yes.
And there's flood watches out.
Those rivers are rising especially over into western, southwestern Wisconsin areas.
I mean, right now the Yellow River and the Cedar, the Kickapoo River at Viola, the Black River, Black River Falls, and even the Mississippi is getting high across.
Wow.
So.
over the next few days and into the next week because it takes a while for all that rain to get in the ground,
get in the
river basin and flood it.
So we're keeping an eye out for that, but more and more still expected.
So we've got another round, not only today, but of course we've got another round that is going to go through Saturday night potentially and then another one Sunday night.
That is a front, a cold front Sunday night.
That one could bring some heavier rain too, adding to those totals.
PJ on the live stream says my garden is already soggy.
I hear you.
Yeah, I hear you about that.
But again, why can't we just drown the right things?
Can we just drown certain plants?
I would really appreciate that.
I was like, what are we
talking about right
now,
Jane?
It's
like
mosquitoes, but then they thrive in that.
Oh my God, the weeds in my garden are so, they're fantastic.
They're doing so well.
They're growing like nobody's business.
You would think my lawn is just weeds and that made it that way.
No, I did not.
Someone please help me immediately.
So next week is looking good, not quite so unbearably hot.
Yeah, it's actually fantastic.
A lot of dry days.
I mean, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday looks dry, but then we're rolling into the fourth already.
Aren't we at
this one?
It's Friday the fourth?
Yes, next Friday is the fourth.
That snuck up on me.
I can just give me the chills.
How is it
already July?
But unfortunately, right now, data does show some storms rolling through most of the state on Friday.
So hopefully that changes, but just a heads up right now,
it does look like that could
happen.
Well, whatever you do, just keep an eye on the forecast, especially when we have the potential for severe weather like this afternoon, as you mentioned, Brittany.
We don't want anybody to get caught unawares, especially if tornado forms or something like that.
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Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about that kid, the Miz.
The kid, the Miz, Jacob Zyrowski, who, first of all, is very likely the best pitching prospect the organization has ever had.
Wow.
And
It's hard to imagine anyone starting off their career better than Jacob Mizorowski has.
In his second ever start taking a no hitter into the seventh inning and a perfect game for a long time until he poked somebody or walked somebody.
And then in his third start going up against Paul Skeens, probably the
If not the best pitcher in baseball, definitely the best young pitcher in baseball, one of the people most like Jacob Mizorovsky, another tall fireballer who's established himself as just an instant sensation, also has some TikTok social media cred by virtue of his relationship with Livy Dunn, and Mizorovsky outdualed him.
in his third start and in a 4-2 victory, those two runs came after he had departed the game.
They're keeping him on a pretty tight leash.
They are not letting him work really past the fifth.
They let him go a little bit on the no-hitter, but, and this is very smart.
He throws 102 miles.
Yeah, I was going to say, but really, I mean, the only real issue that anybody has with Mr. Roski at this point is just that he throws so hard that
Every pitcher gets hurt eventually, and he probably will eventually get hurt.
But at this point, we should just enjoy this while it's going on, because I haven't seen a brewer this impressive on the mound, really, since Cece Sabathia.
And he was our one-season wonder to drive us into the playoffs.
Yeah.
They really have, like Ben Sheetz was a great prospect back in the day.
But injuries undid him, and he was kind of a weird two-pitch starter.
Mizorovsky is great and everybody should be enjoying this moment because he's also kind of Turbocharged the team to some extent as well since he's been up.
They've been dynamite.
Their offense has also improved Just some guys have gotten the hot.
They've been one of the hottest teams in baseball I did not think they would get to within Shouting distance at the Cubs again this year.
They're 2.5 back and I haven't actually been
The Cubs have not been like tanking.
They're five and five in their last 10.
So they haven't been hot.
But they've been playing pretty well too.
And the Brewers have just continued to grind and grind and make up ground.
And they're right back in it.
So it's been a really fun run.
Mizorovsky is of course the highlight of it.
And they get to play the Rockies next.
So the Rockies are...
are atrocious.
They're one of the worst teams in baseball.
And so if they can maybe sweep the series, they might be able to get over the hump on the clubs here and really put them into a bit of a panic mode on the north side of Chicago.
I
was looking at the Colorado Rockies currently are worst on the White Sox, 31 and a half games out of first place.
And we're like, what, two and a half months into baseball?
Yeah, you shouldn't.
The Rockies are something special.
Well, it's just weird to have the White Sox be one of the worst teams of all time, you know, just last year and then the Rockies were projected by most major baseball statistics guru sites to be worse than them this year and like
Those projection systems don't like to project outliers.
They tend to bring people back toward the middle.
I saw that.
I was like, well, how bad could they really be?
No, no, they nailed that.
The Rockies are 18 and 62.
The Rockies haven't won 20 games yet this year.
Every other team in baseball, except the White Sox, has won at least 30.
The White Sox won 26, by the way.
Their loads better than the Rockies are.
So yeah, the Cubs, by the way, in fairness, do still play the Rockies three times.
So they will get to catch up.
Yeah,
from this later on, but we get them next.
So this should be fun.
The question I have for you, Paul, and this is just, you know, this is getting into the psychology of not just the pitcher themselves, but the actual pitching staff.
How do you get into the head of someone like Jacob Mizorowski and tell him, look, we love the heat, the heat is great, but you have to look three, five, seven years down the road and
make sure you throw that heat when necessary.
Not every time because one day you're gonna, you know, it's a Tommy John surgery.
It's a blown out shoulder.
It's something that causes that, that, that wonderful heat that we love watching
is
going to cause the end of his career.
And is, are there ways of, of pitching staff, the pitching coach or Pat Murphy sitting him down saying looks on, we love you, but let's, let's game this out.
Let's make sure we use those pitches thoughtfully.
So.
Definitely and it I think it requires a bit of an old-school mentality starting pitchers when they used to go eight innings routinely complete games routinely Used to save their best stuff to get out of high leverage situations and throw 80% fastball beating 80% of like Effort fastballs most of the time and I think you can do that with him and I think they have to some extent one of the problems with Mizorosky though I think is
problem, quote unquote, just from a potential health perspective, is an 80% fastball from him is still like 97 miles an hour.
Something that would have been he threw a 95 an hour change up in that game.
He throws just with such extreme gas that I don't really think you could have him back off that much.
Maybe he'll be just the kind of freak athlete that doesn't break down and knock on all kinds of wood saying that.
Again, like all pitchers get hurt eventually.
But
they are good at this.
And one of the things the Brewers do, one of the reasons I think there's some reason for optimism is when they do see guys that they think will not be able to sustain being a starting pitcher, they're very quick to kick him to the bullpen.
Like Abnery or eBay throws almost as hard as Mizorovsky does, and they just decided based on control, and I think just looking at how his mechanics work, it's not going to work for him as a starter.
He's in the bullpen for that reason.
The fact that they've pushed him to be a starter
this long and gotten a couple of extra pitches on him, like his curveball is really good too.
I think they see at least the potential for sustainability here.
So again, there's no way to protect pitchers from blowing on elbows.
It's impossible.
It's like a third of pitchers in baseball have Tommy John surgery.
So it'll probably happen sooner or later, but hopefully later and hopefully they know what they're doing here and that we get to just enjoy him throwing gas.
over and over and over again.
Well, and we talked about this starting off the top of the hour, but I think for anybody who does not appreciate just how fast that is and what that's like whizzing past your head, go in a batting cage because I had the opportunity a long time ago and there's the slow speed and then there's the fast speed.
The slow speed was too fast for me.
It's just 102 mile an hour ball.
It's really hard to grasp your head around.
You try and swing at that.
Yeah,
and
it's not just 102 with him.
He's also six seven and he has just He has huge like rain.
Oh Yeah,
so he is also like releasing the ball closer to home than just about any other because his arms are so long Right and that matters a lot.
It's one of the things we track as well
It's it.
I don't know how anybody gets a hit off of him ever It's just it is a testament to major league baseball hitters that they can even do it anytime.
Yeah The guy is the guy is incredible.
We'll leave it to another fun brewer thing by the way.
I got one other fun brewer thing.
Yeah, so One thing that my my colleague Ryan Toplix to track They are this year
6% better than an average baseball lineup with runners in scoring position.
And they're 9% worse than average in all other scenarios.
And normally that would just be a random statistic that would come back to the mean over a long period of time.
But this is now the fourth season in a row where they have drastically exceeded the MLB average with runners in scoring position, but been worse in all other situations.
I wish I had a good explanation for that.
I do not.
The one thing I can say is they have more contact hitters than most other teams.
They have guys like Durbin and Bryce Durang and Sal Freilich who are high contact guys, not big power guys.
And I can see that being helpful, but it's an interesting thing just to kind of keep an eye on because it's weird.
And it's one of the reasons their offense has sort of exceeded
your kind of normal brewer expectations, especially over the last few weeks with Ortiz kind of starting to make better contact too.
It's a bizarre thing and it makes me think they know something that other teams don't.
It'll be hard to get it out of them.
They don't give up secrets easily, but it's a weird little brewer anomaly that's not been consistent.
That is not the case with other teams.
If you're just joining us, we're talking to Paul Newton from the Acme packing company and we are glowing over the brewers right now.
But Paul, I got to say, uh, when I can talk to you about certain baseball things, I feel very proud of myself.
And then when you dig into this part of it, I feel like I am literally trying to hit a hundred now, a hundred mile an hour fastball.
I'm like, I don't know what you mean by that.
That's percentages of the nine of the, nope.
No idea.
I just know that we're doing good, but
but baseball is a game of statistics
Yeah, it is the game the most game of statistics.
Yes, they track everything insane.
Yeah,
someone say too much, but
some could say
Paul the NBA finals are finally over
They are they were they were a fun NBA finals except poor poor tidery's hella Burton The the villain everybody loved to hate who played phenomenally when he was healthy We blew it is ACL early in game seven and that was kind of it for the Pacers Oklahoma City took that home and you know, just kind of unfortunate
Major leg injuries, ACL tears, Achilles tendon tears, actually are hugely up in the NBA over the last five years.
Speaking of things we track, Achilles, thank you, Calvin.
I appreciate that.
ACLs and Achilles both will doom you for the foreseeable future.
His was an Achilles rupture.
And this is actually becoming a bit of a problem.
Speaking of tracking too many things, one thing we track in the NBA is the amount of ground you cover over the course of a game.
Guys have gotten so athletic in basketball that they cover about 15% more ground over the course of a game, playing defense, shooting in and out than they did 10 years ago.
uh, guys are also bigger, faster, stronger as people continue to get.
Uh, and we're starting to actually, I think, see an uptick in major injuries just because of how big and quick and tall everybody is.
Um, and it's kind of becoming a problem.
The NBA finals and playoffs in particular have been massively impacted by major injuries for like four straight years.
The, the bucks, uh, you know, the, they lost, honestly, a couple of games and they've lost major players right before a couple of times.
Um,
And I think that the like load management is already a big thing with the NBA.
But if this keeps happening and impacting the playoffs, they might have to take like take some more drastic measures to keep guys healthy than they are right now.
I don't know if that's expanding rosters or actually shrinking the season.
They'll never do that.
No, they will never do that.
But it's too bad because it cost them what was probably going to be an epic game seven and instead turned into kind of an afterthought when Halbert was out.
He is the acme packing company sports guru and he joins us every other week or so Paul Noonan is
here
Thank you so much Paul.
We're gonna see you next week as well.
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Today's tis bet from the Associated Press.
Headline reads with, oh, no one has the byline on this.
No one wanted to own this.
The headline reads, an Alaska brown bear has a new shiny smile.
after getting a huge metal crown for a canine tooth.
There's video that I think is worth...
looking at just because that is the biggest snout I have ever seen with like, you know, one of those dental sprayer things in his mouth.
You want to watch the video.
Sir, there's going to be some suction here.
Just some suction.
This might stick a little.
An Alaska brown bear at the Lake Superior Zoo in northern Minnesota has a brand new silver colored canine tooth in the first of its kind bear procedure.
The 800-pound bear was sedated Monday, fitted with a new crown, the largest dental crown ever created, according to The Zoo.
Zoo marketing manager Caroline Routley says he's got a little glint in his smile now.
He's walking down the way, just like, what's up, everybody?
He's styling.
Oh, yeah.
He's styling.
The hour-long procedure done by Dr. Grace Brown helped perform a root canal on the same tooth on that bear two years ago.
Oh, my gosh.
When he re-injured the tooth, they decided to give him a new stronger crown.
The titanium alloyed crown was created from a waxed cast of his tooth.
Nice.
And actually the dentist who did there, the veterinary dentist who did this is going to publish a paper on this procedure later on this year.
When asked for comment, the veterinary dentist said, are you sure he's asleep?
I need like a lot of reassurance on this one.
Please tell me he's not going to wake
up.
Double check.
Just poke him with this pokey thing.
Literally poking the barrier.
Yeah, exactly.
This is the largest, largest crown ever created in the world.
Therefore it
has to be published.
The bear named Tundra, along with his sibling Banks, Banks and Tundra have been at the Duluth Zoo since they were three months old.
Their mother was killed in the wild.
Tundra is now six years old.
Other veterinary teams have not always been so lucky.
One in 2009 was performing a routine medical exam on a tiger.
Yeah, that didn't go well.
The tiger came out of sedation early, causing it to bite down.
No, thank you.
But in this instance, tundra the bear, he's good.
And he's smiling.
And he's styling.
Tundra and banks sounds like a personal injury, like law firm.
Tundra and banks, have you been mauled by a bear during a routine orthodontic appointment?
Tundra and banks.
We'll sue for you.
We'll sue.
When it comes to getting your money, we're
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Absolutely, and are you gonna make it to any games?
Yes, I promise you, and I'm going to, I'm going to go to a game.
I'm looking to go to a game.
Oh, I was supposed to, I was asked, there's a Saturday and I can't go, but I'm going to try to go next week.
I'm going to try to actually go, I've got a nice, as you know, club is closed for the summer.
I'm
going to try to have myself go to a few games.
I think you
should.
I
think I should as well.
So, and I'll have stuff to report.
And if I get those tickets, and if you see me there in the club level with you, because you know I'm using company tickets, I'll say it's a perk.
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