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Good good morning and welcome welcome to Matt and air on air Jane Matt and air Greg Bach and Calvin Butenoff coming to you live from our studio at Radio Park in Racine You can join us call her text at 855-752-4842 You can also leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook YouTube and what used to be Twitter He is known as the bug guy.
He heads up the entomology lab at UW Madison PJ leash
is here.
Good morning, PJ.
It's been way too long.
It's like been months and months and months since we had you on the show.
How are you doing?
Good.
Good.
It definitely has been a wild Jane.
I know we connected last year about all the craziness with the periodicals of Cata's.
Oh, yeah.
For me at this point.
But it's great to be back.
Glad to have you back.
I know that we're going to start with ticks.
Yeah.
And this is...
expecting to be a really bad tick season.
It
is.
And for me, the tick season has really been going on for several months already.
That seems like way too soon.
Well, it does.
I mean, one thing I have been seeing, especially the last couple of years, you know, we had that mild El Niño winter two years ago.
And this last winter was kind of wimpy in a lot of regards.
We didn't have a whole lot of snow where I'm located.
And folks kind of let their guard down.
They think, you know, in their mind, it's December.
It's
January.
I'm not thinking about ticks.
I'm thinking about Christmas decorations and New Year's and stuff like that.
And I found quite a few folks will like stop giving their dogs their outdoor pets that prevented a flea and tick.
And then
all of a sudden they're contacting me in late January saying, hey, my dog's got.
fleas as well.
It's it's been warm enough.
So when we aren't getting those kind of cold classic Wisconsin winter, some of these things are becoming active a little bit earlier.
You could potentially bump into them.
I mean, I never like I don't care what the temperature is.
Maybe I'll get her flea and tick medicine on the first of the month, every single month.
And I don't tell me that since that's crazy that people would think, well, it's not the it's not it's not hot.
And we don't live in the woods, of course, either.
So why would we
It
doesn't
matter.
Yeah,
but it's, you know, it's January.
You think I'd let my dog out?
They're going to pick up fleas?
It's January.
Right.
And I mean, generally, the risk is going to be pretty low that time of the year.
But like ticks, for example, if it's about, you know, above freezing, maybe it's 40 degrees or thereabouts, you can potentially bump into ticks.
So my journal mindset is if there's no snow on the ground and it's above freezing, you better be at least thinking about them.
Pets should be getting those preventative flea and tick treatments.
Make
sure you're checking yourself and kids and grandkids and stuff like that because ticks are not something you want to mess with.
Well, and there really isn't PJ a good way except to bet even staying out of the woods isn't isn't enough to protect you from ticks because they're kind of everywhere.
They are showing up in more and more locations and it's really interesting to me because the tick situation
this is really something that is an emerging health threat in our lifetimes.
Because the first deer tick, and when I think of ticks in Wisconsin, we've got different species, but there's like the common one folks call the wood tick, also called the American dog tick.
If I were gonna pick a tick to be bitten by, it would be that one, because I know the disease risks are very low from it.
It's the deer tick that we have the most concerns with.
Everyone has heard of Lyme disease, but there's other diseases that carry anaplasmosis, babesiosis.
There's even some viruses very, very rare at this point.
Lyme seems to be our biggest threat, but our first deer tick wasn't formally documented in the state until about the late 1960s, early 1970s.
Fast forward today, and they've been found in essentially every county in Wisconsin.
in my mind we're kind of watching that that big bang or you know that that rock has been thrown into the pond the ripples are still expanding and we don't know fully when that expansion is going to stop and so you go back 30 years ago and you think of oh you know a hunter and avid hiker out in the woods they've got to worry about right now we're starting to see ticks pop up sometimes in backyards in suburban areas and stuff like that and that that's a concern.
Yeah, I'm going to ask a really elementary question, PJ, and it's about that, what you just spoke about, the discovery of deer ticks.
Was it a matter of they always existed and we didn't know them?
Or it's something that it was a new species of tick that we discovered in the... Because I grew up in the 80s and 90s and I can't tell you exactly when, but I just remember there was a time before Lyme disease and deer ticks, and then it was... That's all you heard for a very long time.
Is is that what happened is like they evolved into a new species or we just didn't know about them and all of a sudden we discovered them
Yeah, so if you go back to the 1960s 1970s when we're finding our first ones if you want to define that species you'd have to go way south of us places like Texas and stuff like that and so what had probably happened over time is ticks were getting carried up on birds or you know long-distance migration of mammals and things like that and
You know, there's some interesting things that that can go on when you have movement of species, be it ticks or other things.
You know, let's say in theory, you move a lone male from somewhere else and you put a male that species here in Wisconsin.
That's the end of
that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
What if you moved a female?
Well, if she had mated.
Could there be a possibility?
Yeah, but you also have to have the right density of ticks.
You know, if in theory I moved a male of a species to Kenosha and a female to Douglas County, they're never gonna
find each other.
So
you need enough of these things being moved in for them to be able to find each other.
And once they do that, if the conditions are right, they can basically get a, you know, a beach head, so to speak, or get a foot in the door.
then they can start a population, start increasing their numbers.
If you're just joining us, PJ Leish is our guest.
He is known as the bug guy.
He heads the entomology department at UW Madison.
And we are talking ticks because ticks are a growing concern all across the country, essentially.
And so I am someone who I went camping once and I found two ticks, one on my leg, one on the back of my ear, which wow.
And what do people do?
in, you know, there's one thing to avoid them.
We can talk about that, but like you go camping and or you're out in the woods or you're driving back and you find a tick on your leg.
What is the next step?
Yeah.
So the next step, if you find one on you is going to be to remove it.
Now, if
it's just crawling and it hasn't bitten you yet, that's easy.
It just, you know, grab it and I probably wouldn't.
take it and, well, I probably wouldn't even squish it, per se, because if there's pathogens inside the tick, you know, if you had a little cut on your skin or something like that, I wouldn't want to deal with that.
I would probably wrap it up in like a tissue, put it in a plastic bag so you can seal it and put it in the trash or put it that bag in the freezer to kill it.
You know, if you happen to be taking a shower and you find a tick on you, flush it down the drain
or
something like that.
But I wouldn't take it and just toss it back on the lawn.
They're
long-lived creatures.
Right.
And that brings up an important point because ticks differ from mosquitoes.
We know some mosquitoes can carry diseases.
And mosquito lands on you, they bite you, they don't feed very long.
When ticks feed, it's very different.
It's a long, drawn-out process.
They actually insert their mouth parts, they kind of glue them in place, and they might be attached for several days or upwards of a week.
So this is, it's not a fast process like mosquitoes.
Also allowing those lines when a tick like a deer tick transmits Lyme disease, it takes quite a while.
They really need to be attached for about 36 hours.
So about a day and a half before transmission can occur.
And that's why in my mind, one of the single best things you can do as a precaution is to do regular tick checks.
Because if you're out playing in your yard or hiking or camping, maybe you had a tick on you.
But if you know, oh, it could have only been on me.
three hours or six hours or 12 hours, even if it has lime, because you've removed it in a relatively short span of time.
It hasn't been on a day and a half.
Your risk goes down greatly to basically zilch.
So they really have to be attached.
So I generally remind folks to do a tick check at the end of the day if they've been outside or if I'm going somewhere where I know there happen to be a lot of ticks, I'm probably doing a tick check as soon as I get back to the car or as soon as I get home.
Yeah.
because that's a great precaution to really, really reduce your risk.
When we found the one, the one in the back of my head was gone.
Like you could just flick it right off.
The one that was in my leg was buried.
And what we did was we took clear nail polish and we just brushed right over it.
So it can't breathe.
It can't breathe, suffocate it and then give it a little, and then getting rid of it was a challenge because it had borrowed its head into my leg.
And I went to the doctor, everything was fine.
But it was just that thing of like, I had just heard of ticks.
I was not educated on that.
And when that happened, I started to
freak?
out.
And so that's good to know that, you know, that I did not know that until right now, that the transference of virus or disease takes a little bit longer.
So the tick checks are very important.
But PJ, going back to the best way to get it out, is nail polish or Vaseline or what do experts recommend?
Yeah, so the best thing is simply to use tweezers or forceps.
Grab it as close to the skin as you can in just a slow, steady pull.
We don't want to do anything that may be pretty traumatic to the tick.
I've heard of things that when I was a kid, this was this was circulate, you know, you burn it with a match or something like that, or, you know, you crush it.
Well, if that tick does have some sort of disease or disease or pathogen, are you potentially introducing that because you're causing a lot of trauma to the tick?
So a slow, steady pull is probably going to be your best.
route of action for that.
Ask him nicely.
Could you just back out of there?
That'd be really, that I really appreciate that.
Go on my neighbor's dog.
I don't like that dog.
Go over
there.
There's a?
lot of room.
The other thing too though, we're joking about this, but Lyme disease is very serious.
For folks who have had Lyme disease, that is not a joke.
Right, right.
Yeah, very serious disease.
And we do know some individuals can have, you know, kind of longer term problems.
in a lot of situations, if it is detected and caught early and treated with a course of antibiotics, folks usually respond pretty well for that.
And actually in some parts of the country, like the upper Midwest where we are, and also New England, those are, if you look at a map of Lyme disease cases, those are the two areas that glow.
And so medical professionals
will basically for those parts of the country where you have lots of deer ticks and Lyme disease, if you are bitten by a tick and you know it's been attached for a day or two and risk is increasing, often a doctor or physician will prescribe a short-term course of antibiotics because we know that works very well.
If you basically hit it early, it doesn't have time to cause problems in your body.
Because from what I understand sometimes, unfortunately, it can take people.
It can take several diagnoses to get to the point where they recognize that it's actually Lyme disease, which can be part of the problem.
Yeah, yeah, and there's there's Lyme disease and there's actually a couple related microorganisms.
There's anaplasmosis babesiosis and Sometimes the symptoms can be a little bit vague not everyone gets the classic bullseye rash that we hear about for Lyme disease Or if you have maybe darker skin, it's just hard to see that rash and it gets overlooked
then those symptoms can be kind of vague, aches and pains and things like that.
So it can sometimes take a while to get a formal diagnosis.
Or be attributed to something else.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're going to continue our conversation with PJ Leish.
He heads the Entomology Department Diagnostic Lab at UW Madison.
He is known as Wisconsin's bug guy.
We have a question for you on the other side.
PJ, from Haleen, from Muscaday, that is all coming up.
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We are joined right now by Wisconsin's bug guy, PJ Leish, heads up the entomology diagnostic lab at UW Madison.
And before we went to the break, PJ, we were talking about ticks.
And we had a question from Halena Muscaday.
What about adding nematodes to my yard?
Yeah, it's an interesting topic.
So I pretty much everyone has heard of nematodes or roundworms or these microscopic pale Worm-like creatures common in ubiquitous and in soil around the world There are certain nematodes that are associated with plants some with animals and things like that And so there there's a small group of nematodes.
We call entomopathogenic or insect killing nematodes ticks and things like that, too
There's been some work in the laboratory looking at, you know, using some of these, and if you put a tick in a petri dish and put in the right type of nematodes, they can become infected.
What I haven't seen really demonstrated would be the kind of the field study aspect of that, to be able to put these nematodes out on your lawn and have them make an actual difference.
And I think what would be most important in my mind is getting at the question of
Yes, do you kill some ticks?
But if you do that, does that make a difference for human health?
If we apply these, are we seeing a significant notable reduction in cases of Lyme or something like that?
So?
again, I haven't seen that sort of thing from the field aspect.
There's still work going on on the biological control of ticks.
I will say I also have some colleagues here at UW-Madison, Dr. Susan Paskowitz, who's our medical entomologist, and she's got a big lab group.
They do a lot of tick research, very, very active in that regard, and they have been doing some studies just using like over-the-counter
granular lawn type treatments you can get from the hardware store.
And it's been showing some good results in terms of cutting down tick numbers.
So there are some options out there.
We are seeing more and more companies offering tick control services.
And in my mind, you don't necessarily have to treat your entire lawn.
But let's say you have a situation where maybe you live in northern Wisconsin.
So you've got some lawn around your house, then you've got the woods.
The high risk area for me is going to be kind of the edge where your lawn meets the woods.
Usually a lawn if it's open and sunny.
that's often too dry.
It's not great habitat usually for ticks.
They like more of the vegetation, holds in more moisture.
And so if they're in the woods, they may wander into edges of yard.
So we know there's some research where you could use a little bit of a granular product, kind of treat a band, like a perimeter around your yard.
And that may help the ticks from moving in.
So that way, if you have, say a kid's swing set closer to the house, you know, risk is going to go down in locations like that.
I had read somewhere and correct me if I'm wrong and do possums eat ticks because I might just get a possum.
Oh, so there's this idea out there that possums are just like
Hoover vacuums going around sucking up ticks horrible things.
Yes.
I've done some digging on that and I have not really found you know a strong scientific backing for that and what some of this may come from and the same kind of thing comes I hear about like guinea fowl on occasion these chicken like birds and some of this goes back to like laboratory studies where you have
some animal, a bat or a chicken or something like that, and you say, oh, it ate, when we provided them, it ate five ticks in this span of time.
Therefore, if we extrapolate, they could eat a thousand a day or whatever it may be.
I have looked at papers in the scientific literature like,
you know, folks have captured possums for studies or looked at roadkill ones and look at the gut contest just to see what they're eating.
And it's not completely full of ticks or anything like that.
So again, this idea that possums are just out there hoovering them up.
I haven't seen science to back that
up.
There goes my olive the opossum.
Well, Jane, if I've told you once, I feel like I tell you this every day, if you want to get a possum by a possum, just remember you will officially be
the lady with a possum name.
That's
probably
not good.
Cindy from Appleton.
Cindy, we only got about 90 seconds left.
Thank you for joining us.
Did you have a question for PJ?
Cindy, go ahead.
No, apparently not.
Cindy cannot hear us.
Cindy, you can always call back if you want.
But again, we've only got about two minutes left.
PJ, we're not going to have time to delve into this too deeply.
The state of our pollinators is still really serious, is it not?
We should be planting lots of flowers in our yards.
It is.
I mean, we've been hearing about this for years in terms of bees.
And usually in the news, what we get bombarded with is news about honeybees, which are really important agriculturally, but they're not native.
And as humans, we can raise them as colonies.
We can split them into two colonies, increase their numbers.
What is much more alarming to me are all our wild pollinators.
We've got about 500 species of bees in the states.
So if you take out honeybees and bumblebees, we've got, you know, 475 or so other species that often just fly in the radar.
Folks don't recognize what they are.
A lot of them might look wasp-like and be mistaken for something else.
But then there's all the beetles, flies.
butterflies, moths, which often get a bad rap.
Those can be critical pollinators too, and we're seeing issues with those as well, and really we're hearing more and more rumblings about general insect declines.
And what's scary to me, I mean, we know agriculture and land use changes play a role with this, but scientists are seeing in kind of pristine wilderness areas.
compared to 30 years ago, drastic declines in numbers and diversity of insects, which is really scary to me.
Well, they might be creepy crawly, but
we need them.
We need our bugs.
Yes, very much so.
We're going to get you back before another six months go by.
PJ Leish is the Wisconsin bug guy, heads up the entomology diagnostic unit at UW Madison.
Thank you so much, PJ.
We'll have you back soon.
Sounds
good.
Thanks
for
having
me.
Appreciate your time.
News is coming up next when we return audio Sorbet.
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We call it Audio Sorbet.
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Just so we can all take a breath and maybe have a couple of chuckles.
We're going to get in that many years and clean them.
We're going to do that.
So this came up last week.
Yeah.
We didn't get around to this, but here is the question of the day.
Yeah.
Do you still balance your checkbook?
855-752-4842.
Do you still balance your checkbook?
That's our audio sorbet question for today, 855-752-4842.
And if
you place your hand upon your ear and listen to the West, you can just hear all the people under 40 going, what?
They do what?
You did what?
Oh, my MEMA has a checkbook.
But now you know someone.
Well, I don't just know someone.
I know someone.
Some ones who are younger.
No, no, no, no, no.
So one older, one younger.
That was, so I was hanging out with my mother-in-law, wonderful lady, Patty Becker, what's up.
And she was talking about still balancing her checkbook.
And it's just something she does it, you know, of course it does the job it's supposed to do, but it's also like a, it makes me feel better
thing.
I like to know where all my pennies are.
And this is one way I
can do that.
I do not balance my checkbook.
I do not own a checkbook.
I do not write checks.
If I, I pay everything online.
And the only thing I would ever pull checks out for live cashier checks were for rent because I had, I had landlords in the past who would hold on to rent checks for a while until he got all of them.
And then Oh, that would
really screw up your
balance.
Exactly.
So.
So I don't deal with it.
I don't, I mean, fine, do your thing.
But I was, I just sort of attributed it to like, oh, my mother-in-law is almost 80.
Of course she bounds the checkbook.
She loves law and swell cause it's adorable.
Then my friend who is, I'm three years younger than me, shot up and goes, I still balance my checkbook too.
I'm like, oh, I am the one who's out of place here right now.
You are the one.
I am not of the, I am not of the cool.
Cause you know how, Jane, you know how like,
Bell bottoms always come back and records are now back with quite ferocity.
Trends return.
Yeah.
People listen to cassette tapes again.
I don't know why.
Maybe balancing checkbooks is the new cool retro thing to do.
Oh, could be.
Could be.
It could be.
I mean, that would, that would mean we are
embracing all kinds of retro things.
That would mean you'd have to go to a bank.
I don't mean just like, like texture bank.
You have to walk into a bank.
Go into the physical bank.
Order checks.
Wait for them to be delivered.
They're not just going to be like, oh, here's your digital scan copy of checks.
It's a process.
Once you get that big folder of checks, then someone has to teach you how to write a check.
Because I guarantee you a lot of people don't know how to write checks.
That's really interesting.
I never thought of that.
It's an involved process.
You got to get all the information correct or else.
You never know.
So we got two questions
going.
Oh boy.
Do you
know how to write a check?
And do you still balance your checkbook?
855-752-4842, 855-757, Sevik Todd from Depeer, listening in Green Bay on WGBW says, I do balance my checkbook, but I use Excel every day.
Okay.
Rich in Wisconsin Rapids, listening on WAUK.
Yep, I've been balancing for 51 years.
There you go.
Good for you.
I was never to say, I was, I have a, I was given the great gift of financial literacy from a very young age, not always responsibility cause I'm, you know, but financial literacy, I started writing checks at a young age.
I started having my own, being responsible for my own money at a young age.
But what's funny is that my parents never sat me down and said, all right, we're going to teach you how to balance your checkbook.
That always felt like something adults did.
I started writing checks.
probably in my early teens
because
I had my own checking account.
And of course it was supervised by my parents, but like I never learned how to balance a checkbook.
Plus it's also
Math, which at that age was like, no, thank you.
I'd rather not.
I'll just be broke.
I'd
rather be surprised.
I'd rather write a
bad check
than
do mathematics.
Do you still balance your checkbook?
Do you still write checks?
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, that's 8-5-5-7-5 civic.
There are a couple of things I still write checks for.
Like what?
The city of the water department.
Yeah.
I write a check to them quarterly.
Why do you do that?
Because it comes in the mail.
And
I pay it.
I get my little card in the mail every, I think we pay it every other month.
Okay.
It's every, yeah.
I have a dashboard set up online and I get an email saying your water bill is available and I literally pay the water bill the moment that day because the
First time we got a water bill.
I paid it then the second one I just forgot about it And then the next water bill was like twice as much and then I realized that but it's an unpleasant surprise I do not write checks for no, I just don't write checks I just don't
and I did balance my checkbook for years and years and
years Do you do what Roger from Stevens Point does he monitors his checking account through his app?
See
now I now I just check the
Now I check the bank website,
and
that's where I know where I am.
But I
do not fill out the physical check recorder
anymore.
I
haven't done that in a long time.
I have the same thing.
I check my app all the time.
And also, I get notifications on my phone that say, you know,
Your account has been debited.
There's been a spending on your account and everything matches.
So if something even, even honestly, Jane, if it's like, if I go to quick trip and buy a soda for a buck five, it's telling me a buck five has been spent.
So I always know what's going
on.
checks.
Roger from Stevens Point, I monitor my checking account weekly, so I balance my checkbook through my bank's app.
Jan from Oak Creek, I balance my checkbook every day online for security, and because I must, I have gotten in trouble many years ago, now keeping a good track of it, and I have learned I must discipline myself
to
do it every day.
I don't write checks, though I do carry one in my purse, just in case.
And I keep the paper and pencil ledger.
of my check, my checkbook too.
Good for you, Jen.
Yeah.
But
again, good for you for recognizing that you got in trouble because you weren't paying close enough attention to it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then honestly, like we always hear stories of identity theft and whatnot, but there are stories out there of people just like someone getting your information spent in
35 bucks on something or you know, it's so small they can get in there and send those little oh definitely and and also fees are out there and it just it's a good you know The question of do you balance your checkbook is one that is is fun to talk about but it really that financial literacy of your account being being Vigilant and looking at whether it's in your checkbook whether it's online whether it's going to the bank and asking for a printout of your History, which they will do for you.
But yeah, Jan, that's very very good stuff to do but
Yeah, I don't think, I can't, there's no, there's no way I'm going back to checks.
No, thank you.
Not for anything.
Well, most of the places I go anyways don't accept them.
Yeah, and you hate to, well, for one thing, you hate to be the person at the grocery store pulling out the check with four people behind you because you will hear the collective groan.
Do they even still accept checks anymore?
I think it depends upon where you shop.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe in smaller, smaller communities.
Mike, Gavin, do you even know how to write a check?
as our resident young person.
You know, I'm slightly offended by that, but I'll take it and try.
Yes, I do know how to write a check.
I have a checkbook.
That being said, the last time I used it was probably paying rent in college.
So it's been a couple of years since I've even used it.
Wow.
Calvin, I
was not expecting an answer at all.
So you have every right to feel
insulted by that because I mean honestly at your age and there's a lot of landlords out there who accept Venmo or will do direct bank transfers and things that so I would absolutely assume that not only would I assume you didn't have a checkbook but you wouldn't know how because young people don't
Don't have to you don't have to it's not something you need to do is to survive
see and maybe that's a generational thing too because the whole Venmo thing just makes me twitchy
I don't think it's a general.
I don't think it's a generation thing I know plenty people you're a chore on Venmo.
I
know
again because
I Know why it's like I we are so automated and so there's I just know let me ask you a question
Have you bought anything online?
Perhaps what's the difference?
There's a little lock in the left-hand
corner.
You think Venmo's just like, you know, it's like some guy named Steve going.
His name is
Steve Venmo.
Hey Calvin,
you gotta pay Jane.
I'll give us some money.
You pay me back later.
It's
just the newer technologies all, I'm like, I'm gonna wait.
I want to sit back a little bit and watch
this.
Venmo didn't come out last month.
It's been around for a long time.
Not for a decade.
Almost.
Those peer-to-peer paying sites have been around for a while.
I'll make you a Venmo site.
And it's secure.
I don't know.
I don't want it.
I'm not going to use it.
You
sound like my mom when CDs came out.
She's like, I won't need CDs.
I have all these tapes.
And then a month or two later, she's like, I bought the Beatles White album on CD.
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.
Do you still?
Balance your checkbook.
Do you still write checks?
Kurt from Eau Claire.
I have had a checkbook for 46 years and never balanced it.
I write checks now because I refuse to pay convenience fees.
And now with the internet, I check my Friday every week
on Fridays.
That's a great thing to do.
That's really smart.
That's very, very smart.
Yeah, convenience fees ends.
I never thought about that.
I mean, they'll charge you fees no matter what.
If they can.
Yeah, exactly.
Cindy from Appleton is on the line.
Good morning, Cindy.
Thanks for joining us.
What do you want to say about this?
Well, Venmo, what's Venmo?
Oh, stop.
You've heard of Venmo, Cindy.
Thank
you,
Cindy.
I'm serious.
I have no idea what half of these things are.
And I do like you, Jane.
I go on my account online just about daily to make sure everything looks cultured.
But I'm starting to feel like I'm being discriminated against.
And I'll give you a little story from this weekend.
Continue.
Continue.
I went to, I was down in Fort Atkinson for an event Friday night and on my way home, I'm doing this 30 trails challenge with the Fox, these greenways.
So I stopped at the glacial river trail, rolled about six, seven miles on that.
And then I went up to Jefferson and got on the glacial drumming trail.
And when I got to the glacial drumming trail,
There was no place to pay anything except with a QR code.
I don't have a smartphone.
I can't use a QR code.
So I called the office number and I said, what am I supposed to do?
I don't have a way to do this.
I'm an old lady.
I don't believe in all this crap.
And so she said, well, nobody's going to do anything.
Don't worry about it.
And I said, well, tell you what, when I get home, I'll make a payment online, which is what I did.
But I'm like, this is baloney.
You are
such
a- you are such a good person for doing
that,
Cindy.
I think it's
so funny.
Good for you.
I will- I do- I do not have a smartphone.
I'll go online at home and do it.
Because she's a good
responsible human being.
Well done, Cindy.
You both are silly billies.
That's great.
All right, when we return, we're gonna wrap it up with this shouldn't be a thing, the Lost and Found Edition.
Stay close.
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He is going to join us at 9 35 to talk all things news.
Maybe we'll have some movement on the Wisconsin state budget.
Yeah, probably not.
No, I don't think so.
They're just going to walk away from it.
But anyway, Todd will be joining us tomorrow in the first hour at 9 35.
So I hope you can join us for that.
Right now it is 10 53 Calvin.
That means it's time for
This shouldn't be a thing.?
As always, if you have a thing you think should not be, send it into Greg and me at Jane says at civicmedia.us.
This is from upi.com, Ben Hooper, our hero.
Ben Hooper back
with me.
With the byline, headline reads, items left on British buses include bales of hay and a frozen turkey.
What British transport company megabus?
Sharing some of its most unusual lost property that people leave behind on their buses Including hay bales a frozen turkey a walk and false teeth Now that you would think would jump out at you,
I mean
You would need those unless you got an extra set
I'm just imagining you're just taking your teeth out and putting them in the chair next to you.
Or in
a little pouch thing.
A seat you have not paid for.
It's illegally writing.
That your teeth?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm trying to think.
I feel bad for the person who forgot the frozen turkey because they got off and they're like, and as the bus is pulling by, they're like, oh.
Meemaw's going to kill me.
I had one job.
But you wouldn't think that you would miss that.
Like I got onto the bus carrying a frozen turkey.
I am leaving the bus without something.
Okay.
I will I will defend this on one point.
Okay.
How often are you carrying frozen turkeys?
Never.
Okay.
How often are you carrying your purse?
More often you say?
Yes.
So.
When you get off a bus or you get off,
it's not a regular
thing.
It's not a regular thing.
You may not think about it.
And the bus can be like, I gotta get off the bus.
I understand why you'd forget something very unusual because you're not used to it being there in your life.
Therefore you're watching the bus drive away.
I think
you're being very generous.
I'm being very generous because we've all forgotten that thing where we like, I can't believe I forgot that thing.
My friend left a comedy event once to go get a mic stand because the mic stand was gone.
He went back to the club.
Got the mic stand walked into the building without the mic stand in his hand So I can understand why you might forget something that it happens exactly happens
We're talking lost and found on the British bus company megabus other items found in May Included me Winnie the Pooh stuff toy a jar of honey would have been nice if it was sitting right next to Winnie the Pooh
A Radiohead vinyl record.
Which one?
Insulin.
Oh God.
An electric razor, a Neil Diamond CD.
A collection of historic coins and stamps.
Oh boy.
A guitar.
Tell
me more.
And a single shoe.
It's like, you're really driving Jane and you just see a shoe on the freeway.
How did that happen?
Yes, I went to a college with a young, with a woman who said that she claimed it was snow pigs.
That was her, that was, because we would always see them.
You always see one, you never see two shoes
lying by the
side of the road.
You see
one shoe.
But snow pigs,
what
are those?
Snow
pigs.
It was there invisible.
You can't see them.
They
hide in drifts and then they come out and grab one shoe.
That was her, that was
her
explanation.
Well, yeah, it was college.
So this is just me, I, oh, Jane, we could do this monthly.
The monthly report of Megabus.
From Megabus?
Lost and found, because if this is just May.
I know, just May.
In years past, they have found three bales of hay, which are big.
Hay bales are big.
Yeah.
Family tree documents, a frozen turkey, false teeth, multiple single shoes and socks.
Megabus says about 95% of lost and found items are eventually returned to their owners.
Really?
Those that go unclaimed after 28 days get donated to charity.
Anyone who loses an item on a megabucks, Megabus is encouraged to report your lost frozen turkey on their website.
Oh, great.
You've donated a right tennis shoe.
Amazing.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Megabus.
You're helping the good work.
Really helped a lot.
I really hope there's a June report.
We'll go back.
We'll double
check and see
what.
We'll
request Ben Hooper
to do this.
When Megabus does their next report on June.
How amazing would it be if we get Megabus on the show
monthly to talk
about their lost and
found?
We can try and make that happen.
Amazing we have the power we do all right that wraps up today's episode of
This shouldn't be a thing?
Also coming up this week Jim Santel will be back on Thursday along with Brittany Merlot a little weather and wine.
We still have this Heat warning in effect.
I believe until seven o'clock tonight.
Yeah, so please be careful Keep an eye on yourself and your neighbors and especially your pets
Good time to let the dog, I don't know, chase the tennis ball in the house.
Yeah, yeah, indeed.
And then maybe storms coming in tonight.
So hopefully that's going to clear out here a little bit.
Cool.
All right.
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