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Lots of things to talk about.
We're going to get to your comments on Summerfest.
We'll do that in our Audio Sorbet segment that's after the 1030 News where we try and lighten things up a little bit and take a breath and get away from the news.
Sure.
But it's a
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You want to stick around for this one.
Let's start though with the Republicans just walked away.
We there we can't do anything.
We can't get everything we want.
We don't want to compromise So we're just not gonna we're just gonna leave.
Yeah, the state budget here.
We are on June 20th The budget is due June 30th
almost there.
We do not have a state budget to be voted on It's been a it's been a little bit of a discombobulating week in in Madison as Republicans try to figure out what kind of budget they're going to pass if they're going to hold sessions
to craft the budget.
This week, Todd Alba has been all over the news of what's happening at the UW system.
He broke
it.
He broke
the story
on Monday night.
And Robin Voss confirmed it, I believe, in a press conference Wednesday that the Republicans are proposing an $87 million cut to the UW system.
I know it's called the universities of Wisconsin.
Now, I'm going to keep calling it the UW system.
still call it Miller Park.
I'm stuck in the old ways.
OK, Graham.
That's that besides the point Yeah, they they don't haven't seemed to figure out how to they haven't gone through the process of doing this So like after Todd broke the story on Monday, they delayed the vote on the UW system vote that was planned for Tuesday They delayed that to yesterday Thursday and they canceled that session about 15 minutes before it was a schedule
Yeah, we were just talking to Kareem Hendrickson
about that.
Oh,
yeah, she was there, right?
She was there
shut down her business to be
there insane
Yeah.
And so, you know, and when these things get scheduled, people come from all over the state to be there to advocate for various positions and whatnot, just like Kareen and the folks who are involved with advocating for childcare.
Childcare was on the agenda, as was the UW system, kind of the two of the top items that have been particularly contentious throughout this process.
Those are two of the three things that Tony Evers said, you know, he needed from the Republicans in this deal in order to, you know, meet their ask.
on a tax break of some kind.
He outlined three things, K-12 education, UW system and childcare.
Two of those were going to be up yesterday that got canceled at the last minute.
So it is introducing kind of this strange dynamic in Madison that we just don't.
Really, you have anything there
to vote on?
I go back to two out of the three things that were the top things that the Joint Finance Committee heard about when they traveled around the state four times.
Absolutely.
These were the biggest issues to Wisconsinites.
And these are the main issues that Republicans continue to ignore and walk away from.
I think these stick there.
La, la, la, la, la.
Well, yeah, we were we took comments for nine hours.
I didn't hear anything I was playing Candy Crush.
And that's the thing too, is we mentioned earlier before is the fact that, you know, while it is disappointing and unprofessional and unstatement like to cancel a meeting 15 minutes before it's to go on when you have all these individuals there, we shouldn't be surprised by a group who has the JFC and they go around talking, go out and listening, quote, unquote, the air quotes are doing some heavy lifting in that one and do nothing about it.
But also this also dispels the myth they've been trying to portray.
well, Governor Evers just won't talk to us.
That's junk.
That's junk.
He is compromising on things that I wish he wouldn't comp.
I don't want a tax break.
That's not what we need here, but he's doing what a politician needs to do.
And they're like, not good enough.
No, we're gonna gut the UW system even more.
Well, and I think that introduces this potential issue for Evers where,
So basically what happens if they don't pass a budget by the 30th, everything goes back to the ever all of the funding levels set by the previous budget.
So the budget that was passed two years ago, it would just continue on in the funding levels that are there.
So if Republicans pass a budget that has an $87 million cut, not just a cut to Evers proposal, which was to add hundreds of millions
of
dollars to the UW system, but cut to existing levels,
I think it would be incumbent on Evers to probably veto the entire budget and do what he has not done as in, you know, this is now his fourth budget cycle in his second term as governor.
Each of these cycles, he has eventually signed a Republican budget and then used his,
the
governor's powerful line item
veto
powers to make various changes to certain things.
I don't know if that's what he should do because like if
You can't line item out an $87 million cut.
That cut is there if the budget passes.
So I think he has to actually consider doing what he has not done yet and vetoing the entire budget if it is passed with cuts like this, if it doesn't include any new money for childcare, any Medicaid expansion, things like that.
I think Evers needs to start.
getting out there in the public saying, these are the priorities that I have advanced.
This is what we've talked about.
This is the this is the middle ground that we're that we're ready to meet on.
I'm going to veto the entire budget if it doesn't include if it includes a major cut to the UW system, or if it doesn't include like Medicaid expansion or like certain types of things.
I think he has an opportunity to do that right now.
If you're just joining us, we have
Civic Media's political editor, Dan Schaefer, here.
He's also the founder of the multi-award-winning Reconpopulation Area.
We're talking about the Wisconsin budget being in a standstill right now, frustratingly.
And one of the things I want to go back to is what we just spoke with Karina about, which was that poll they did.
And they talked to, I think, 2,600 people.
And a vast majority of them do not utilize childcare.
But 80% of them said that we need a fix.
So to me, what you're saying, Dan, is
if he vetoes that budget, and the next thing he needs to do is put out a press conference and say, we agree on this, we've seen the numbers, we agree on a lot of things actually, but this one we agree with, and I have to take care of Wisconsinites, and I know some of you won't like this, but I need to veto this budget, because we need to go back to the beginning and try this again, because people are struggling, and I made a commitment to the people as well as children, and I feel like,
vetoing the budget is a powerful statement, whether it's honestly, whether it's for reelection or not.
Cause he, he doesn't run.
It's probably one of his last big moves.
decides to run, he, he needs to run on this.
Cause people aren't going to understand and he needs to make them understand what an important move this is.
Well, and I was at the democratic party of Wisconsin's convention last weekend in Wisconsin dels.
We talked about that on the show earlier this week, but one of the, one of the.
things that was kind of floating around there was that uh citizen action of wisconsin and a number of groups and kind of a coalition that they have put together had these stickers on that said veto the budget if it doesn't include k-12 education funding
veto
the budget if it doesn't include um you know medicaid expansion veto the budget if it doesn't have child care so there is this push
from a bunch of
progressive groups uh on the left that would be part of the democratic party's larger coalition that were at the convention
urging Tony Evers to veto this budget.
And that was before the news on Monday of the proposed UW cut as well.
So I think there is, you know, and I was on the Citizen Action of Wisconsin podcast this week.
We were talking about that.
I think there is, there are a number of progressive groups across Wisconsin that are going to be vocally urging
evers to veto the budget if depending on what is ultimately passed here.
And I think it goes into what you alluded to with the questions over Evers reelection and whatever else.
This is a tough spot right now for
the governor in a lot of ways.
It is, but we've heard so much that Democrats want to see more Democratic leaders taking a stand.
And I think if he would do this,
And as you said, Greg, I think it's important to do follow-ups so people understand why he took this stand.
But if he takes a hard stand on this, that might work in his favor.
And I also think that there's a lot of eyes on Wisconsin right now, both from the fact that we are a swing state, the fact that we are purplish and the spring election.
If the governor of Wisconsin stands up to the Republican majority and says, no, you're done.
We're trying this again.
That's a powerful statement that can also reinvigorate some of those Democrats around the country who are like, we're kind of weak right
now.
We need help.
You have a guy like Tony Evers.
He doesn't look like JB Pritzker.
Pritzker?
Pritzker.
Thank you.
He doesn't look like him.
He doesn't look like Andrew Cuomo.
He doesn't look like one of these big guys.
He's a man of his stature, and he's a quiet gentleman.
And if he comes up and says no,
That sends ripples throughout the country and is a story and could maybe give other governors and other lawmakers some confidence to do the same.
Yeah, I do think there's going to be a lot of pressure on evers to
to veto the budget entirely.
And then what would that mean?
Would Republicans just walk away and just try not to pass a budget and be like, well, we're fine with previous funding levels.
And then we're just not gonna pass a budget.
The less work they have to do, in my opinion, and what we're seeing here, the better for them.
They've already worked way past their expiration date.
I mean, good heavens, shouldn't they be on vacation by now?
If they must be exhausted, it's been four months.
Wow.
It's been like four
months.
Let me ask you this though.
Greg, you mentioned the...
the study, the childcare study, the kind of the survey on that.
Well, this has kind of been a tactic that Eversen has deployed in various times, calling special sessions, like special session on the gun violence prevention measures and saying like, hey, Marquette pulled this and it's like 80% support.
This has happened in a number of different times, the abortion measures that he brought up as well.
It hasn't actually worked though, at the end of the day.
Like
it's been a
good rhetorical argument for it.
And one I agree with and saying like, Hey, if this is an 80-20 issue in Wisconsin, we should at least have the conversation.
We should have a special session.
We should talk about these things.
That hasn't moved Robin Voss though.
Well, and I'm not actually even worried about moving Robin Voss.
What I'm saying is that if he does this, he's appealing to the voters themselves who are saying, these are important issues to us.
then what will happen is the voters might move Robin Voss out because they might get, I don't know, this is all speculation, but I'm speaking less about him talking to the Republicans and more talking to the people who agree on this, as well as many issues that Robin Voss and his cohorts are like, no, we're not doing this.
So it's about appealing to the people, but in a way that's effective.
Yeah, I think that's that that's a good point.
I mean, it's appealing to the people is ultimately what matters here But in order to get something done, yeah, we got to we got to find some sort of compromise and after the break I think we should talk a little bit about what's going on the differences between the assembly and the Senate
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It's kind of in limbo
right now.
Budget impasse right now, that's for sure.
And it's interesting as I was following the kind of statements that would came out after the
Joint Finance Committee session was canceled yesterday.
There are different statements coming out from the Assembly and from the Senate Republicans.
Do they not
talk to each other at all?
Well, I think this is an interesting piece of this.
So I'm going to read a quote from the statement released by Robin Voss and Assembly Finance Co-Chair Mark Bourne.
Part of this, you know, in the statement, they talked about that, you know, we negotiated in good faith with Governor Evers.
Assembly Republicans will not pass a budget that doesn't have a guarantee from Governor Evers of tax relief in it.
But at the end of the statement, it says, quote, this is the most conservative and most responsible option.
This budget is on a trajectory to have more conservative growth rate than the budget that was passed by the Assembly and Senate two years ago.
We hope Senate Republicans will come back to the table to finish fighting for these
reforms and complete the budget on time.
Really putting Senate Republicans in the spotlight
as the problem.
And I think Governor Evers spokesperson said something similar.
I think Senate Republicans need to figure out how to count to 17 because they need 17 votes.
They have 18 Republican state senators.
Two of them have said that they don't want to pass this budget.
So I'm not great at math.
But that does not get them to 17.
And so I think that is why we are at this moment here, where Mark Bourne and Robin Voss are saying, we hope Senate Republicans will come back to the table to finish fighting
for these reforms.
Get it together,
kids.
Get it together, Senate
Republicans.
Come on, kids.
Devon Lemahue and the rest of the crew there.
Do you think that the Senate and the Senate Democrats were like, did they forget to mention us in there?
Why are they talking to,
this seems
real.
Well,
it's State Senator Chris Kappenga.
Let's put out a statement earlier this week that he would prefer to not pass a budget and just go back to the previous levels.
State Senator Steve Nass, is it Nass or Nass?
I'm actually not
sure.
See, I thought it was Kappenga and not...
Oh, I said Kappenga.
Yeah.
Kappenga, Kappenga, Nass, Nass.
Chris K, whatever.
Forgive me for my pronunciation here, but all that aside, those are two senators who have said that Republican state senators that said that they are not going to path vote for the Republican budget that's being crafted right now.
So do they need democratic votes in the state Senate to get it done?
Do they need to go back to the drawing board or are they gonna just not get something done?
I think they need to go back to the drawing board, but I think Chris Cappenga's response as far as let's go back to previous levels proves the point that
We and Jane made, Jane and I made it to your question, which they'll be happy to do no work.
If it's like, oh, we won't be shut down.
We won't be, we'll still have money, blah, blah, blah, all those things.
Well, then why don't we just, the last one was good.
It was fine.
Listen, I got things to do.
I have a vacation to be on.
So I think that Chris, I feel like where Chris Cappenga is going is more gonna be the, well, we couldn't get anything done, folks, but this budget two years ago was
fine.
But then they have to go back to their voters come election time and say hey, we didn't we didn't pass a budget We didn't pass a tax cut
But but why can't they spin that and say look at the money we saved you by not voting for a new budget See what we did for you.
We protected you
and to put a little GOP
a spice on it, they can say, we didn't bow to Democrats and their, and their tax and spending.
They'll, they'll make it like the Republican assembly is looking at the Republican Senate right now, but at the end of the day, if nothing happens, they're just going to blame Democrats.
Oh, that's a good
one.
And especially Tony Evers.
Oh yeah.
That's pretty much a good one.
That's
exactly how it's going to
go.
But I think a lot of this goes back to they're still really hurt that Scott Walker lost.
And they're really, really, this is just my opinion.
I think they're really, really irritated that they didn't use the veto pen like Tony Evers did.
I think they're really jealous about that.
I
do.
Well, it's been six and a half years.
Maybe
it's time to get over it already
and
accept the realities of divided government.
She broke up with you,
sorry.
They're just not that into you anymore.
Yeah, I think, you know, Senate Democrats have an interesting role to play here, too, because I think, you know, some of the folks in the budget writing committee, like, like Kelle Roy's or some of the other folks in the caucus, Latanya Johnson has mentioned that they might need Democratic votes to pass a budget in the Senate.
I think there are a number of people that we should, we said also, like, keep an eye on in this process and say, if there are a couple of Democrats say, hey, I would vote for your tax cut if you expand Medicaid, if you fund UW.
It's called
compromise.
Exactly.
So I think there is a role.
to be played by some of those folks in this process as well.
And it says a lot that they're immediately pointing the finger at Senate Republicans instead of saying, we're going to try to work with everybody.
I know they would never do that or say that on paper,
but it says a lot that they're just keep on looking at the Republicans saying, dudes, do something instead of looking at those Senate Democrats saying, all right, how do we make this work?
Let's get into a room.
nobody around for now
it
like,
yeah, and we'll, and then we'll go on a stage, we'll hold hands and you can campaign on that.
You got something done.
And then the tax cut, they can do the one thing that they, the only
thing that they
ever want to do is give a tax
cut to the top tax
bracket.
The answer to everything.
Rich people need more money.
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You're discombobulated.
That's why I'm here, Jane.
That's why I'm here.
To get you re-combobulated, exactly.
Dan Schaefer is here.
Civic Media's political editor and the creator of the re-combobulation area.
And it is time for a little audio sorbet where we take a breath, get away from the news, lighten things up just a little bit.
We've taken some criticism for this, but I think it's important that we all
in the midst of everything.
Those critics are wrong.
I love
Audio Sorbet.
Thank you.
I love the name.
I love the vibe of it.
Everything's great.
Just for it to have a couple laughs.
I think it's important.
Absolutely.
I spoke to one of our colleagues.
I'll make him nameless just because he told me that this
is one of the favorite parts of the show, because we're talking about news, we're talking about heavy stuff, but then we're taking a moment, and we're also entertaining, which is not just like, today in Mongolia.
We're providing fun, but then this portion of the show takes a breath, because as you've put it, Jane, if we had to talk about this five days a week, two hours a day, nothing but world breaking news, it would be just
miserable.
I'll have to throw myself off the tower in the back of the building, and I don't want to do that.
I would rather you not as well.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
So yes, audio survey where we take a little breath.
You wrote a column about summer fest.
You're just getting in trouble all over the place lately.
Yeah,
I had a, you know, I've had a couple of spicy takes
lately.
That's
right.
Got to stir the pot every once in a while.
I had to take about the summer fest, which kicked off last night in Milwaukee.
I love summer fest.
Absolutely love summer fest.
I will be going multiple days.
I
will be
having a good time.
I think it is still somehow underrated as an event and festival.
I wrote a column at Milwaukee magazine about a decade ago called indefense of summer fest when people were being especially critical of it for random reasons.
And having said all of that, the three day weekend format is a crime against Milwaukee and I hate
it.
You know what?
As someone who doesn't go to summer fest really at all anymore,
I appreciate what it is, and I appreciate what I like about it is what you love about it.
And I think the criticisms from maybe 10 years ago was maybe the bands weren't as topical as they used to be.
It used to be a lot of cover bands, a lot of bands that appealed to people like
older.
They have
really done a great job of getting fresh new bands in there, especially on the free stage, the free quote unquote you pay to get in, but those stages have, I mean, Lizzo played there one year.
That's a big get.
That's huge.
Yeah, I agree.
Because I would go to SummerFest if it was 11
days.
Still during the week.
And still during the week.
Yeah, the three day thing is just, I'm getting nervous thinking about walking into SummerFest on a Saturday when there are hundreds of thousands of people there.
It's just too much happening.
Whereas a Sunday morning when they first open or on a Thursday or a Wednesday, it's calm, it's fun.
And then you don't have to stay for a couple, you don't have to stay all day either.
You go for lunch.
Yes,
exactly.
8-5-5, 7-5-2, 4-8-4-2.
The new summer fest, now the way that we do it is three weekends in a row.
Three weekends in a row.
The old summer fest was 11 days in a row.
Right.
Should we go back to the old way?
We gotta go back to the old way.
8-5-5, 7-5-2,
4-8-4-2, weigh in on this audio sorbet.
Okay, so one of the reasons I think is because I think this is bad for Milwaukee.
because I think if you have Summerfest taking up three of your summer weekends.
Bad for other businesses, that's for sure.
It means that all of the other street festivals, ethnic festivals, other stuff that's happening throughout the city has to avoid Summerfest.
So
you have to, like last weekend was an especially busy one in the city of Milwaukee.
There was Polish Fest at the Summerfest grounds.
There was Lakefront Festival of the Art at the Art Museum.
There was Summer Solstice on the east side.
And all of those events had to pack in to one day
because they didn't want to go up against Summer
Fest.
And
Summer Fest takes up three weekends.
Like we only have so many summer weekends in Milwaukee.
We always go all out.
We love our summers in Milwaukee, but to have three consecutive weekends taken up by Summer Fest is a lot to contend with for some of these, you know, non-Summer Fest festivals.
The tap would close for two weekends during that time.
Cause we
can't compete.
No
one would come out.
And we didn't honestly want to run a place that was for people.
It
just didn't make sense.
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Couple things, I understand what you're saying about Summerfest still not being given enough credit, I guess for the...
what a massive music festival it is.
At the same time, I don't want more people coming.
You want fewer.
We don't need more people.
See, I don't think
you and the Summerfest CEO are going to agree on
that one.
Probably not.
But I remember back in the day when I was working Summerfest every day after doing a show, and the whole goal was that we need a million people.
We want a million people through the gates.
We want a million people through the gates.
Yeah, then it takes you an hour to get to the bathroom.
And, and you could tell on those nights, those big attendance evenings, it wasn't uncomfortable and it wasn't fun.
And
if
it's really
hot,
or if it
rains,
like
there's always these elements.
Scott in shorewood listening who, who actually provide to us our job of the musk.
He's one who made it.
He said to you, Dan, stop it.
It's one week in extra.
But then Penny says, go back to 10 days in a row.
I stopped going because I don't want to deal with big crowds.
That's how I kind of feel as well.
I think you also have, you know, it ignores certain, it makes it harder for certain people to go.
Like if you're working the service industry, you know, if you're waiting tables, you're working the bar or something like that, you're working every Thursday, Friday, Saturday, then you can't really go to summer fest.
I think that makes it really hard too for like, you know, or if people are just like,
You know, you take off of school, you take off for the 4th of July, you take a long weekend, you spend a couple extra days at Summerfest, because you know, you can, hey, I'm gonna go there on Wednesday or whatever it might be.
I think that's another problem with it.
I think one of the things that they have done really well though, is start scheduling different acts earlier in
the day.
And like
last year, me, aging dad, I went to see like one of my favorite indie rock bands, The Hold Steady, and they were playing at five.
They were playing at five, which is perfect.
I'm gonna go at five, I'm gonna have a couple drinks, I'm gonna be done and be home.
be home by 10 o'clock.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It's exactly what we were talking about yesterday.
We were talking about the appreciation of your band going on at 4pm.
Yeah.
You're like, it's amazing.
And now I have two questions.
One, cause I don't know because I don't go to summer fest and I apologize everybody, but summer fest now is Thursday through Saturday or through Sunday as well.
It's through Sunday.
No, it's not.
Oh, it's not.
I don't like Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
That is insanity to me that it would be, it would, to me,
Personally, Sunday would be a big day, especially for families.
You get
in
the car, come down to Summerfest.
But do kids really belong at Summerfest?
I think during the day.
I think during
the day, yes.
By five o'clock, they have to leave.
Well, even by
five.
But
honestly,
at five
o'clock.
By our time for 10-year-olds
is five o'clock.
Scooters out at
five.
I would actually propose at five o'clock, they're closed because...
If they're gonna be closed on Sundays, period, and lose out on possible revenue and people coming, then might not open Sunday Fun Days, Sunday Fun Day Family Days from 10 a.m.
to 5 p.m., and that's it.
And you have, you still have bands, you can have more kid-friendly bands playing.
You can have kid-friendly bands playing on the big stages, too.
Marketing,
great buck,
semaphist.
And that's the other thing, too, is when you don't have it on Sunday,
Some of these service industry people are off on Sundays and Mondays
they're just completely out of
here.
So it just doesn't seem and also the other question I have is it would never was every day in a row, right?
Because it was always closed on the 4th of July or was it open?
So usually they would close on the Monday
There was like a Monday that they would close and they would clean up the festival and
reset and
whatever.
And then you'd still have like Tuesday through the following
Sunday.
Right.
Right.
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Summerfest, should it go back to the original 11 days in a row or should we continue with the three weekends in a row?
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Kimberly from Wauwatosa says 11 days please.
Big event that everyone knows from all over the state.
Now it's three weekends and no longer one big festival.
One fee for all, all three days.
Music is free like Gretna Fest, but go back to 11 days from Kimberly.
Schools and nonprofits typically took part during the weekend on Sundays.
Yep.
Jake on the live stream says how about two long weekends for summer fest Thursday through Sunday, both times and have days on July 3rd and 4th when they fall early in the week.
And they haven't in recent years.
Yeah.
I mean, it's been a lot.
I mean, this all comes from COVID.
This all comes from the lockdown.
And I believe it was, it was canceled in 2020 because of
COVID.
We're
delayed and then canceled.
Yeah.
And then the next year they did it later in the year.
They
did it in 2021, like
September.
I mean, also why not make, I mean, why not make summer fest then a festival that happens at the end of summer after all the other festivals happen?
I mean, people are still gonna come out.
It doesn't, is there a law that says it has to be in June?
There's no, it's just been what they've done.
And we can see now that summer fest people can rethink their, the way they exist, the way they-
Change is possible.
With the Milwaukee Comedy Festival this October, we always had the festival in August.
And then because of COVID, we're like, what are we gonna do?
We can't do a festival in August in 2020.
Can we do something smaller?
Let's try October.
And then we kept it in October.
It was perfect because we weren't up against festivals.
We weren't up against summer.
I just think that there are ways of finding compromise and new ways, but this three weekend thing is just so, especially with no Sundays, that just makes no sense.
Two scattered,
two broken up, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two summer fest.
Should we go back to its original iteration of 11 days in a row or continue with the new one with three weekends in a row?
Richard from Waukesha is joining us on the phone.
Good morning, Richard.
Morning,
thanks for taking the
call.
I think they need to go back to something like 11 but maybe they could have a break a day or two in the middle the restart or just some kind of Change but to go back to more days, you know in a roll
Appreciate it Richard.
So 11 days and then again take that Monday.
Yeah, if you do Monday or Tuesday off or something like that would be fine fine.
I would almost go back to the 11 days.
I think I'm with you on that.
Yeah, I've won you over Jane.
Well, because again as a person of a different older age, I would be
I would go on a Tuesday or a Wednesday, you know, and meet a friend for lunch and then maybe hang out for a couple of hours and listen to some of the afternoon bands and stuff.
That appeals to me, but I'm like a penny who said the, I don't want to deal with, I don't want to go in on a Saturday with 200,000 people there.
That just does not sound like fun.
Yeah.
Do you go to state fair?
Yes.
See, state fair is continuous, right?
And state
fair
keeps getting better.
Like I feel like the state fair numbers,
keep going up and up and up, like they get more than a million people at state fair every year.
And so what, like, how are you not seeing that this is an event for people to like, you know,
spend some
extra
time there, take
some time off and work and like take, you know, take your family or whatever it
might
be.
Like it seems to be working fine for state fair.
I guess it's, I don't know.
I think, I think summer fest is trying a little bit too hard to be like a Lollapalooza or a Coachella or like play in that type of same type of sandbox.
And
I just don't think, and I don't think that's really.
Well,
that's the name of the, of today's episode.
We
don't want to Paluza.
Don't Paluza summer fest.
No, that's a bad idea.
Oh my God.
That's what's in the Jane.
Jane
knows
what's up.
That's
a really good way of looking at it too.
And you can, you can.
You can push it as like a, hey, you know how you're paying $300 for Lollapalooza?
You can come to ours for like 50 bucks total with all the tickets and everything.
Exactly.
Yeah.
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found this one from the mirror, that bastion of journalistic excellence from across the pond.
So many Pulitzers.
So many Pulitzers.
The headline reads, British Airways crew mistakenly booked into sex dungeon as they spot grim detail in room.
Members of a British Airways cabin crew found themselves in a mortifying situation after being accidentally checked into a sex hotel.
Complete with an anatomically detailed bathtub.
What is that?
Wait a minute.
We'll get there.
While in the Italian city of Milan, it had decided that this British Airways crew would spend the night at motelmo.om.
This is a modern hotel with good transportation links.
Unfortunately, whoever booked it, the team found themselves betting down for the night
at a similarly named mo.om hotel.
The names are so close, but there's a big difference.
It soon became clear to the crew this was no ordinary hotel as they took in the bondage themed beds and anatomically shaped spot tub.
And if the features, those features didn't make the
point,
the incessant moaning and groaning from their fellow patrons must have cut through the walls.
A source- Change so uncomfortable reading this.
A source told the Mirror, crews were booked into a pay-by-the-hour sex hotel, confronted with bondage sets, mirrored ceilings, dog cages, and leather harnesses.
It was obvious this was not the intended hotel.
Although there were some humorous elements to the mishap, the sleeping situation less than ideal for the staff.
As the source explained, this was a comical mistake by the hotel booking team but had serious app implications.
Some of the team members who slept in the sex dungeon didn't get any sleep so they couldn't actually fly the next day.
They were
kept awake by thrill seekers moaning and groaning all day and all night.
A British Airways spokesperson says a small number of crew were moved to unapproved hotel rooms.
After availability issues with our usual accommodations, this happened without our knowledge.
We're investigating to make sure this never happens again.
And then they put us in a comfort suite.
So gross.
What a letdown after the Mohawk hotel.
Sex
That's a song waiting to be written.
Oh, I'm writing that this weekend.
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