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Today it's the happy trail next edition.
Some people.
Yeah, some, some people that's coming up around 1051.
I hope you can stick around for that.
Wanted to start off though, the Wisconsin state budget remains in limbo.
Yeah.
Some Republicans saying, yeah, we're just, you know, I don't want to sign anything.
We'll just, we'll just go with the deal that we had.
It's not bad enough.
Let's make it worse.
Let's make it worse.
Todd Alba actually kind of broke this day before yesterday on his program and even the night before on social media that the Republicans want to cut more money from the UW system.
This from WPR Shawn Johnson with the byline Robin Voss as assembly Republicans back 87 million dollar cut to the UW budget.
Governor Evers had asked for an $855 million increase, which we knew wasn't going to happen.
That's almost a billion dollars.
We've talked about this a little bit before, like negotiations, you start high and then you come down a little bit lower to what you were actually shooting for.
But yeah, now they're like, no, we're not going to give any money.
And in fact, we want to cut $87 million from the UW
budget.
I'm surprised it's only $87 million.
And I'm sure Jane, it's for measured, really well thought out reasons
too.
Well said.
Yeah.
Robin Boss says, quote, it's not about cutting money.
What it is about is getting some kind of reforms to the broken process we currently have.
Popcorn King says there is still too much political correctness on campus.
and not enough respect for political diversity, quote, we want to ensure that whatever happens on campus, it is a free exchange of ideas, really.
That's the basic basis for what university should be, unquote.
He also said something about
We need to make sure that conservative students are comfortable on campus.
I
thought they hated safe spaces.
I
thought they hated higher
education.
I thought they hated coddling and snowflaking and all that stuff.
Didn't Scott Walker's two kids go to UW Madison?
Didn't a bunch of people who are conservative go to UW Madison and Harvard and Yale and every other university they hate.
Also, tell me why.
Tell me why cutting.
87 million dollars will help them achieve this goal if they wanted to create a place that was more Also, by the way, I thought they hated inclusive.
Well, you can't be inclusive
in diversity.
No, that's we can't make a special place for
them Where we're how does that goal of what Robin Vosha say get achieved by cutting?
Why not finance certain things and say all right, we're gonna give you 250 million dollars
for the UW system.
But in that money, there must be an allocation for a freedom of thought think tank or whatever.
You put something in that actually achieves the goal you're trying to say.
When you make the claim of conservative students aren't comfortable there, and it's too much political correctness, well then, and cutting money is not going to help that.
No, of course it's not.
It's going to make those people, by the way, hate you more.
This is my personal opinion.
I believe the Republican goal is to kill higher education Absolutely, they want to kill they want to kill higher education.
They want to kill public education There is nothing worse than having to deal with people who can think critically.
That's bad.
Yeah, then they can argue with you
Yeah,
we don't want that.
I mean they only want they only want certain and it's funny.
They don't even They don't even care about like working-class conservative kids who want to go to college they want
their buddies and their buddies kids to go to college.
They went like those, those halls are reserved for a certain individual.
They're not going to be standing on an assembly line, screwing in screws to phones.
We're going to make here.
Oh yes.
American iPods.
Just wait, we're going
to pay
$25,000 for those.
Yeah.
This, this, the more I listened to Robin Voss talk, whether it's an interviews in the paper, whether it's on upfront, which he goes on a lot.
He's able to speak with such fluidity, but
rarely does anything of value come out of his face.
It's always just a barrage of talking points that appeals to a certain swath of individuals, and there's never anything to back it up.
Cutting 87 minutes, just say it out loud.
We don't like UW system.
We don't like what they're doing.
We don't like higher education.
We don't
like higher education, and we think it's a waste.
Just be honest, but don't make it like, conservative kids don't have a place to go to.
Go to Bob Jones University.
Why do we need to hand out blankies for these kids?
Again, I'm not sure what it would take to make them feel more comfy.
on campus, more welcome on campus.
Scott Walker's kids, maybe they could be consultants on this.
Maybe every night we'll get, we'll get a space inside one of the dorms or the like union halls or something like that.
And we'll just turn the lights low.
Everyone gets a blankie.
Everyone gets like, you know, just a juice box.
And then we play someone, someone recites a Ronald Reagan speech, but even a softer quieter ASMR Ronald Reagan.
Oh, it's, it's morning in a
minute.
And then they feel good about themselves, Jane.
Is that too much to ask?
I feel like,
Yeah.
They can throw a million dollars at that.
Absolutely.
Get a Ronald Reagan impersonator.
Senator Kelder Roy is a Democrat from Madison says with a four billion dollar surplus, yes, we are still sitting on four billion dollars.
With a four billion dollar surplus, Senator Roy's, there is no excuse for making cuts to the university.
No.
We used to have, our university system was the envy of the country.
Yes, Wisconsin educational system was we were we were the the model
Wisconsin used to be the one of the envies of the country as far as our unions our education Apprenticeship started here.
We got that thing kicked off.
I believe kindergarten started in Wisconsin like there's so much that happened in Wisconsin educationally Gay rights queer communities flourished here because of the protections that the government passed to make sure they were welcome and taken care of and treated
Equally this state over the past.
I don't know.
Let's see.
When did Scott Walker?
It just seems like it happened when Scott Walker just its coincidence, right?
It just has fallen apart but with great design This is not a this is not a oh, we've let it go.
This is a measured attempt to destroy everything that's been built in this in this state.
It's an
intentional dismantling.
Yes, it is.
Yes
If this budget cut happens, this $87 million, they want to cut from the UW system.
Uh, UW system saw cuts in the hundreds of millions of dollars in the first Scott Walker administration.
Yeah.
So this, you're right.
This, this began when Walker got into office.
Yes.
Intention.
And with, with, honestly, if you think about Scott Walker got into office in 2010, 15 years, the amount of damage they've done to this state, it's,
kind of amazing to watch.
I also find it amazing that considering how evil our our UW system is, that any Republicans would send their children to these universities.
How did they have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to all the indoctrination that they were subjected to?
Yeah, it's my goodness.
It's a it's a it's a
It's a game.
They've been playing for the longest fear education Unless you're you know what you want your kid to go to like, you know be going to big but I don't know that notion I just keep on going back to the the idea of they hate school so much So they want to make it unaffordable for the regular folk, but but their kid but their kids their kids and their friends kids will go there because that's good because at the end of the it's a good school and provides opportunity and fraternity and You know
People see a UW Madison diploma on your resume.
They're like, oh, I went there.
Hey, we'll give you a shot.
You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
It's just.
Yeah.
Things still going well in Madison.
Friction between Democrats and Republicans on display yesterday.
The Senate passed several bills along party lines that create programs and grants with no state funding attached.
So they passed, yep, we like this program and we're gonna do funding for this program.
We just aren't gonna say how we're gonna pay for it.
What?
Republicans argue the bills need to be signed before funding is included in the budget to assure them that Governor Evers won't make any changes using his partial veto.
They're still really stung by that.
The the changes that he made with the education and the 400 year educated yet.
They're still really they're really upset.
I have a
feeling Jane and I'm I'm not a fortune teller I can't say what would happen in an alternate dimension I have a feeling that even had he not done that they'd still just be sore and sore losers and I mean honestly this is their their their MO is just to punish us
They just want to punish us, the regular folks, working class, blue collar.
Well, we don't
need enough money to really be important.
Man, I would love to do it.
I don't need enough money to be like, hey, can you guys just like us for 20 minutes?
Can you do something that helps us?
The regular folks?
Yeah, help.
I mean, help your friends.
Fine.
We know you're going to do that.
I know the Democrats are going to do that.
They love helping their rich friends.
They have to help their rich friends.
But also, every once in a while, give us something
too.
But that's what, I mean, that's where the Trump budget is.
Yeah, exactly.
It's throwing crumbs, although in this case, with the budget bill in Washington, that will very negatively impact on the lower end of the economic spectrum.
Oh my gosh.
Massively.
Poor and working poor are going to see their taxes increase a
lot.
Almost $2,000,
I've seen.
It is irresponsible and disgusting.
Speaking of
You're responsible and disgusting.
The 988 hotline is going away.
We're going to talk about that on the other side.
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So stay tuned for that.
Right now though, this was announced yesterday.
The Trump administration is going to defund the program within the 9.88 suicide hotline.
aimed at LGBTQ kids.
So if you called 988, that number will remain available.
But LGBTQ callers were able to request that they talk to someone specifically trained in this area with shared experiences that they're going to ask.
Someone please tell me how this isn't policy.
that's just aimed at pure cruelty.
US Senator Tammy Baldwin says she will fight tooth and nail to protect LGBTQ kids after the administration proposed Wednesday the national suicide and crisis lifeline will no longer support programs aimed at LGBTQ youth.
A survey done by the Trevor Project last year found that 40% of LGBTQ young people considered suicide
In the previous year, 12% of LGBTQ young people attempted suicide.
Both are higher than those among non-LGBTQ youth.
It's because of a lack of support.
Yeah.
These kids are, if they're not just kicked out of their houses, their family, their community, the church, they're put into terrible positions of pressure and mental instability that
not mental disability, just mental strife that makes them think that they're not good enough and kids without help can spiral out.
Adults can as well, but kids need a place to go.
And this is just a simple program aimed at helping people.
This was instituted, I believe, in 2022.
It hasn't been around for that long.
No, it hasn't.
No, I'm sorry.
It was 2023.
And according to the article that we're getting out of the Wisconsin Examiner written by Henry Redman,
1.3 million contacts have come from LGBTQ people to the hotline.
That's trying to help a lot of people.
And when we're talking about kids and when we talk about how much we love kids and want to protect kids and support kids and only certain kinds of kids.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe they'll put in a hotline in there and 98 double, you know, conversion therapy line.
I don't know.
But this is just, this is,
I
can't, I can't, I can't even find a word like cruel isn't even
That's nice.
This is monstrous.
And
unnecessary.
Yeah, this doesn't... I just think it's unnecessary.
You cannot tell me that this one addition to this hotline costs so much money that that's why our government is having money problems.
You gotta be kidding me.
No.
Well, I'm sure someone will say it, but then, but then over time we'll hear the truth, which is we really shouldn't be encouraging these kids to live the lives that it is.
We need to protect them.
We need to get there.
There are, there are other, they can call their church.
No, they can't.
No, they can't.
They cannot call their church.
Not some of them.
Sorry.
I'm getting, I get queer kids are important to me.
Trans queer kids are very, very important to me.
And this is just, this is just,
Mean it is this is awful.
This is anti-American disgusting and we are reaching We're gonna be reaching out to both senator Tammy Baldwin to talk about this and I would like to talk to Abigail sweats from Fair, Wisconsin as well because this has repercussions this will hurt Children
Tammy Baldwin quotes.
I worked hard to stand up to stand up a special line
for LGBTQ plus youth because we're losing too many of our kids to suicide.
It's well past time.
We did something about it.
Children facing dark times and contemplating taking their life often have nowhere else to turn besides this 988 lifeline.
And the Trump administration is cruelly and needlessly taking that away.
And I would think that we can all agree that if we reach for help,
It's always better if the person on the other end of the line has experienced the same thing.
Right?
I'm not saying that other people on this helpline can't be helpful.
But I think talking to someone being counseled by someone who lives in the same lane
makes a difference.
It makes a difference.
It's important.
I think it's necessary.
And I think that Jane...
We can all, we can't all agree apparently because they're cutting this.
So there's a great group of people out there.
When I say great, I mean of amount, not of personal, of good people who think that these kids do not, their problems are not worth the time or the money, which once again, it's, it's like when we, it's like when we get into an argument about funding NPR, it is point zero.
I want to know,
I want to
know how much
This portion of nine, eight, it is.
And I want to know all the zeros that are involved as far as point zero, zero, zero, zero percent of the budget is steamy.
I was so entering pride month too.
And they did it.
They did it intentionally.
Absolutely.
They always.
do this.
We have news coming up next when we return.
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Jim, before we...
And it's a
good adjacency,
Jane, by the way.
It is not a bad adjacency.
It is a very good one.
We are always grateful for your insight and your perspective and your experience.
And before we went to the news at the bottom of the...
hour, Jim.
We were talking about the decision by the Trump administration to stop funding the LGBTQ plus portion of the 988 suicide hotline.
And if you didn't have a chance to listen to Maggie Dawn's show yesterday, I highly encourage you to go back.
She did talk about this for quite a bit.
She also spoke with Abigail Swetz from from Fair, Wisconsin.
So you can always find
archives of our shows all of our shows at civicmedia.us and then just click on shows and go down to the show that you want but I highly highly encourage you to listen to Maggie Shale from yesterday but what a disappointment Jim and it's dangerous.
A profound disappointment not only as a public policy matter and the shutdown of this
important access it has been there again for not a great deal of time not enough does a
couple years
but exactly but we again it's implicit in your comments Greg's comments as well we know from the records in all of these kinds of out like outreach the hotline access but they also save lives and they may not solve problems in the moment of the conversations but they stop people from doing things that they might otherwise be inclined to do and give them a bridge
to give them a sense of forward movement in their lives.
And so this is catastrophic, not only again in terms of what we should be doing as a community, but for people who would otherwise get access again.
As you said, the line is still there, but that importance of having that connection of human beings who've gone through the same thing cannot be overstated.
As I was listening to your compelling and hair in the back of my neck rising,
conversation about this, Maggie's yesterday as well, reminded of what Sonia Sotomayor wrote and released just the same day, actually, yesterday or so, finding again, opposing the position of the Supreme Court that, in fact, Tennessee and other states can stop.
can stop health care being provided to youth underage, minor transgender populations.
There's a portion of the opinion.
There are actually many of them that I commend to your listeners, but Sonia Sotomayor takes the opportunity to talk.
about the impact of this upon particular individuals.
I won't read all of it.
It's on page six and seven and eight of her opinion.
But she talks about how this ban applies no matter what the minors' parents and doctors think, with no regard to the severity of the minors' health conditions or the extent to which the treatment is medically necessary, talks in particular about, obviously, people identified in the pleadings, Ryan Rowe, named by name, he's 16, LW, the initials, John Doe, people who are affected dramatically.
by the lack of support.
You're talking about treatments for trans youth.
Right.
She's talking about their life experiences.
And again, the connections, I could not avoid the connections between her accounts of individual people.
They're real.
This is not just a decision by some bureaucrats in Washington DC and by the president to stop this.
These are live human beings.
And it underscores the notion that again, all of this affects people.
She talks beyond that toward the end of her opinion about the fact that transgender people have long been subject to discrimination in health care, employment, housing, rampant harassment and physical violence, paragraphs and paragraphs, accounting, all of that.
If you need any additional support, and your listeners probably do not, but any affirmation of the horror of this decision to rescind the hotline access through two transgender counselors,
Take a look at Sonya Sotomayor wrote and released just yesterday to America.
It is compelling.
Well, and again, I can only imagine that the amount of money spent on this is miniscule
when we are
talking about the vast majority of government spending.
This is a blip, right?
It's practically insignificant, the amount of money that we're talking about.
Absolutely.
And so, as you and Greg had just said in the previous segment,
You go back, as Sonia said to Maior and the other dissenters yesterday and say, what are we doing here?
What is the reason for doing this?
And again, as both of you have indicated, words fail.
Words like cruelty and intentional attacks can't lay upon people because we don't like who they are.
We don't like what they represent, whatever the perverse mindset is.
That's what animates this.
It's not about economics.
It's not about operational capacity.
None of those things.
It's simply because we're going after those people, demonizing people without any basis whatsoever.
That's not what America is all about.
You know, it's we the people, right?
That's the Constitution and it's everyone, citizens, residents alike, youth alike.
It is adults.
It is everyone.
of all immutable characteristics and how dare they do these kinds of things that send us back not just 200 years, but three and 400 years in time.
So I did some looking really quick because I wanted to find out and there's no specific number for the exact thing for the for the LGBTQ line just for that.
So basically they spend about $33 million overall in programs, mainly focusing on this line for LGBTQ youth.
This is in the 2020 budget.
The 2020 budget was $7.71 trillion total.
For the budget.
For the budget of that $33 million was given to this program.
And if they want to post it as, well, that's money we can save.
That is like, if I'm doing math correctly, it's 0.000046% of the budget.
It's minuscule.
It's nothing.
Yeah.
This is
cruelty.
This is
gross.
Well, yeah, and it's not about saving money.
It's
not
about it is about trying to disappear segments of our population.
We've seen that to what the White House has done with some of the White House websites and just disappearing people from the code talkers from World War Two and other people of color and women who have had accomplishments.
All that stuff's gone.
All that stuff's
gone.
removing names, identities, great histories about bravery in our military, about people who have done extraordinary things and they happen also to be members of the LGBT community and we cannot have that apparently in this administration.
That sends the wrong message.
it does not send the wrong message it sends the message of inclusiveness and that everyone is participating should be able to participate in the American experience and they have to our benefit or benefit that's the horror
the other thing i i do not understand all of the people who scream about parents rights parents rights parents rights parents decide what their children are taught parents decide what their children eat parents decide
Except in this instance, we are taking the control of the medical treatment that parents decide that their children need.
We are taking that right away from them and giving it to who, the courts?
Again, the courts giving it to no one in this case in the wake of the decision, right?
That basically says that if you've got a state legislature and oh, by the way,
by my count, there were somewhere between 20 and 30 states, about half of them in the union, that have passed pieces of legislation that in some way restrict healthcare provided by doctors, provided by healthcare workers to transgender youth as they're going through this very sensitive process, about half of our states.
And by what they did yesterday, the Supreme Court says, that's okay, you can strip that away, you can prohibit it.
not just make it difficult to access, but you can prohibit it as a legislative matter.
So if I'm in Tennessee and I am a parent, I'm a family member, I am a transgender youth, no access.
If I get it somehow, I'm in the gauging of violation of the law.
And the Supreme Court yesterday said that half the states of the union, that's okay.
The other concern, of course, is some of the dissenters identified as do many people in the wake of yesterday's decision.
What else does this bring forward?
That is, if there are other states that are teetering on whether or not you can do this, they may go down that road.
And beyond that, Jane, as your comments just indicated.
We are once again highlighting and demonizing a group of people.
It's those transgender people, right?
And we know as well that we've got, as we just mentioned already, the Supreme Court has said that Donald Trump can go ahead and get rid of them from our military.
No proof whatsoever that there is any impact, just the opposite, a positive impact by having
Transgender members of our military.
Yes indeed We've got the the war on sports and the war on being bathrooms still come up on a regular basis All of this kind of thing is just a part of a larger plan to look at people and say We don't like you and you and other people should not like you either and now and now we're permitting Legislatures to embrace that notion and make it the law
What is next?
And that's the concern right now in the 24 hours after the announcement of this decision.
What is coming up next?
What is the other branch of this that goes forward?
What are you going to do next, John Roberts and five other members of the Supreme Court?
If you're just joining us, we are sitting, we're having a discussion with James Santel, who is the host of amicus alarm, which is available and on the air every Saturday from nine to 11 also available on civicmedia.us slash shows for past.
listening experiences.
Um, I think the next step is Jim and I want to make something really clear.
Um, transgender individuals, people who identify as transgender and this is 13 and older is 0.6% of the population.
It's this tiny, tiny, tiny portion of the population, tiny.
And I think that, I think that, um, you go after them and once that is done and done and
The next thing I think is the full spectrum of the queer community because we see people already talking about rolling back marriage quality.
They, I mean, and, and it's, it's, it's chipping away little by little and, and somewhere in the 2010s in the teens, yeah, 2010s.
When marriage equality became a thing, people kind of put it down like, oh, we can't really go after that.
We got to demonize another group.
Well, they found their group and it's perfect because there's so many people who don't understand transgender people, even though they're individuals who are just living a life.
But I think once that is taken care of in their eyes, the next is the full spectrum of those in the queer community.
And then after that, who knows, it's just anyone who doesn't look like us.
And when I say doesn't look like us, I'm talking about white and I'm talking about...
Landowners, I'm talking about business people.
That's what they you have to I mean, there's some kind of point where they're gonna be white people who don't look like them as well You're not gonna be good enough.
We say it all the time They're gonna go there.
There's no reason for once the other ones are gone.
You're next so That's where I think it's gonna go.
I think it's it's it's a it's a full movement through project 2025 to
Christianize this country and the queer population just does not fit in that group.
Even though there's a lot of wonderful devout Christians who are queer, gay, lesbian, all the Muslims, the Jewish, it's not good enough, Jane.
It's not good enough, Jim.
They gotta go.
Right.
And we're going to then reverse, again, recent history.
We forget that we do not forget that Obergefell wins.
Those are recent decisions by Supreme Court and also Bostock, this other case written by Gorsuch, saying, yes, you can be protected under Title VII and employment settings.
All of that, again, now on the plate for review and examination.
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One thing I wanted to talk about briefly, Jim, because we did talk about this yesterday and Greg found this article now in California.
Two California lawmakers are proposing a new state law that would ban members of law enforcement from concealing their faces.
I don't understand if are we teaching our kids now that if a white van pulls up and five guys jump out
Wearing jeans a t-shirt and a flannel shirt with masks on and they say I'm with ice come with me We're telling our nine-year-olds to jump in the van is that what we're doing?
That's the profound on the ground problem with what's going on in America today, right?
We no longer know who the law enforcement folks are and who the potential kidnappers are.
That's a serious issue, right?
For youth, certainly for adults who were called a tough student who was basically approached by those fellows and they look like ninja warriors coming upon her and arrested her,
that's the
issue.
Absolutely.
And so, it's unfortunate that we have to have legislation because what has been the practice in the federal system, that's what I can speak to, the tradition, the assumption has been that when you are executing a warrant, even executing a search warrant, which can also be ripe with danger for all kinds of people, law enforcement, but also the people on the other side of the door, what you want to do is you want to be as transparent as possible.
I am with.
the Sheriff's Department.
I am with the Milwaukee County, this law enforcement entity, that law enforcement entity, so that everybody knows and what's the reason for doing this?
It's to ensure that nobody does anything stupid and irresponsible, right?
If you know, if I know with clarity that that person coming through the door is indeed law enforcement and not someone who is there to do a home invasion, my response will be very different and I've
de-escalated the possibility of some danger.
Federal system, again, there's an assumption that you will not be masked.
There are certain circumstances, yes, for undercover operations, sometimes for SWAT things, sometimes for the safety of the operation generally.
Those are for the most part the exception and not the rule.
And the concept once again, as we've talked even about recent arrests, you want to do this in a way
that again accomplishes the result without anybody getting hurt with clarity and what the legislators are doing are saying when people show up and even if they are legitimate federal law enforcement.
How do we know that?
You've got a right to ask.
Do you have a warrant?
What is the basis for your arrest?
It may be probably caused in the moment.
When you are pulled over for speeding, what is the first thing that happens?
The officer comes forward and says, I am Officer Santel.
I work for this entity.
I've seen you.
We've been exiting the speed limit.
We tell people a part of our due process, and it is unfortunate, once again, that we need to articulate that need.
Again, under some circumstances there, but in
In most instances, it's just another example of good due process in America.
That's who we are.
We do not have squads of law enforcement going out, and well, we do now.
Now we do.
We're picking people up at a minimum, at a minimum, putting, again, that very important issue of whether that's good policy.
They've got to be able, they should.
identify themselves to establish their authority to do things so that that's done properly.
Now, I am seeing Republican lawmakers come out and say, Marsha Blackburn from Tennessee recently just came out and said, there has been a 413% increase in the number of assaults against ICE agents.
Of course, like with so many things with this administration, no one has come forward with proof.
No one has come forward with the number of cases where this has happened.
I don't think they should be assaulted.
I don't think any law enforcement should be assaulted, but apparently they're okay with it only on January 6th.
Those assaults were fine.
Those people were patriots.
But in all other cases, that doesn't apply.
Right.
And you're absolutely right.
We don't want anybody in any of these high intense situations to be threatened, to be compromised in their physical security and safety.
When these things do go badly, again, the botched search warrants, the kinds of things we've seen, what happens?
People die.
We've seen that in our recent history as well.
You want to minimize that.
The reality is, and I realize it's not true of everyone in America, when someone comes forward and says, I am here to execute a search one.
I'm here to arrest you.
Here is who I am.
Here's my badge.
This is the authority that I have.
Most people recognize that by, I'm only going to make things worse, Marsha Blackburn, by attacking that person and kicking and screaming or doing something worse.
Most people recognize, I mean, I'm not gonna be happy about it.
I'm going to contest all this, but I'm not going to, in this moment, do something that's going to make my situation even worse and the entire situation even more compromised.
It will be interesting to see what happens with this measure right now.
It's only in California.
But I do think that this is a larger discussion that we need to be having as a country and whether we're good with this.
Right.
And we should not be, again, with some limited exceptions.
It's called transparency in government, including law enforcement.
It's what I spent 30 years doing.
You do it in a way that's fair and decent and ensures that the aspirations of our Constitution are met in the practical illustrations of it every single
day.
it.
Jane, Greg, always a pleasure.
Have a good week.
We'll
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Happy Juneteenth.
Happy Juneteenth.
Happy Juneteenth.
Today is the Juneteenth holiday.
Milwaukee's Juneteenth celebration is one of the biggest and longest running in the country.
Another reason why Wisconsin is
awesome.
Yeah, absolutely.
And today there's a
a parade that they're having in Milwaukee.
They will honor Anna Mae Robertson at today's Juneteenth Parade in Milwaukee.
She's a 101-year-old World War II veteran and a member of the historic 6888.
We heard about the
6888
last year.
Tyler
Perry came out with a movie about him.
But Derek mostly came in the show.
We have not had him on in a spell.
In too long.
And he spoke about the 6888 and their impact.
on the war, America, and just culture in general, and being, you know, as we were talking about earlier with Jim Santel, they are part of the fabric of our history, and they are what makes America America, so.
The
6888, known as the 6888, was the only all black, all female battalion sent overseas during World War II.
Their mission was to sort and deliver millions of backlogged letters to U.S.
troops.
lifting morale by reconnecting soldiers with their loved ones at home.
And again, Tyler Perry had a recent film about this six triple eight.
Be something good for all of us to watch.
Yeah, absolutely.
And again, in case you were confused about the origins of Juneteenth, the Emancipation Proclamation was signed in 1863.
It wasn't until 1865 that the news
that the slaves had been freed, reached everybody.
Galveston, Texas was the last place, right?
I believe that's accurate.
Historically, the Emancipation Proclamation was very, very good for many things.
It is a little factually inaccurate to say that it freed enslaved people.
It freed them in the Confederate states, but in
in free states, that's a little bit more murky.
And I don't mean to be a no funner, but I also, I think it's important to understand the full impact of the history, but this is a very, very, very important date.
And it's been celebrated for a very long time.
Very
long time.
And again, Milwaukee has a long, long
history
of celebrating Juneteenth.
And now it's pretty great in conjunction with Summerfest,
which is getting
underway today.
No, it's it can't Jane.
It can't be
it's February isn't it
the big gig The programming it begins after the annual Juneteenth parade and festival on Dr. Martin Luther King Drive in Milwaukee starting at 6 o'clock tonight The summerfest grounds will feature live performances and cultural program Programming rather to celebrate Juneteenth Entry is just 19 bucks after six o'clock.
That's amazing.
That is pretty great
Oh,
you're gonna make me go to
Summerfest.
The collaboration between this group and Summerfest reflects how far the holiday has come.
This from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
This is great.
Yes.
This is
great.
The celebration today and tonight, not the only thing that's happening to Mark Juneteenth.
Summerfest is also hosting a taste of Juneteenth on Saturday.
So you can check out music, music, food, and vendors spotlighting Black culture.
And tomorrow, June 20th, families can take advantage of Shore West Children's Fest Day.
From noon to 3 p.m., everyone entering during that window, getting free.
Pretty nice.
So I have
a question for you, Jane.
Sure.
Are you going to Summer Fest this year?
I will not be going to Summer Fest this year.
Yeah.
I haven't been to Summerfest in a number of years.
But let me explain to you why.
Oh, there's a story.
Well, there's a reason why.
For I would say 20 years, 25 years
of my
career, I worked every single day of Summerfest in a row back in the days when it was
12 days in a row.
But you weren't there all day.
You were there for your shift.
No, but I
would do my show
in the morning,
and then I would go work at Summerfest.
Oh, I thought you meant you would be like live from Summerfest.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
So wait, okay, I'm sorry,
back up here.
Okay, so you do your show in studio.
In studio, because it was early mornings and Summerfest wasn't open yet at that point.
Why would you, what, okay, what was- Then we'd go and we'd introduce the openers, or we'd introduce the comics on the comedy stage.
Oh man, back in that day, whoa.
Oh yeah.
Well, I remember going to those shows.
I
mean, which was great.
But again, you do that enough years in a row and some of the glow goes away.
Absolutely.
I would say.
Yeah, I can, oh my gosh.
And you were just there until like close?
Well, you would have, I would have to wait around until I introduced the comics.
And then once I did that part of it, then I could leave because I had to get up at four o'clock in the morning.
Oh my God.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
So that is my excuse.
I put in my time at the, at the big gig.
I, I fasted, trust me, I fasted plenty.
Meanwhile, I'm like, I'm not going to summer fest because I'm tired.
I'm
a towel
boy.
I, that is, I might go this year on a Thursday because.
It's always better on the weekdays.
I think it's not quite so crowded.
Yeah, exactly.
I would much rather go on.
But there's also some great bands coming through, and they've really done a great job in my opinion.
And some people might think that the bands have always been good.
But they really have freshened up the acts coming through.
It's no longer just like, hey, I'm going to go with my dad to see this cover band.
Awesome.
So yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to check out the list again and see who's coming through and see maybe go, maybe take a Thursday evening and check it
out.
Nothing makes me feel older than looking at the list of entertainment coming to summer
fest.
I don't know about Calvin.
I, Calvin, I don't know if you're going to be going to summer fest this year.
Will you?
Probably not.
Okay.
Have you ever
been to Summerfest?
I've been once.
And that was enough.
No, I mean, I had fun and I liked it.
It's more so getting down there than it is.
It's a pain.
Yeah.
Well,
it's also a hall for really both Calvin and I. We live a little bit further away from Summerfest grounds.
True.
But there is a pure, I don't know what, 30s, 40s feeling you have.
of joy and you're like, I'm going to go see that band.
They're playing at four.
I'll be home by eight.
See, we're not as far apart as it seems.
Oh,
absolutely not.
And
I, I'm
all about the big headliner shows at four o'clock.
And I have been living this life for about 10 plus years now where, you know, we go to your first concert and, and, and the, the act comes out and you're like, yay.
And then everyone sits down.
You're like, we get to do this.
And we're all going to sit down during
the show.
It's wonderful.
It's wonderful.
I mean, the taste of Juneteenth sounds really... Doesn't that sound good?
Yeah.
When
we have had Derek Mosley on in the past, he's a big foodie.
Oh my gosh.
And he's talked about some of the great... What a great way to be exposed to just different cuisine.
I think it's fabulous.
I absolutely agree.
And I mean, honestly, following Derek Mosley just for the food takes...
is amazing.
But he also just posts such joyous things.
He is still a judge and he still does weddings all the time.
He is the head of the Lubar Center.
We should give some context.
He is the head of the Lubar Center
at
Marquette Law School.
And they put on programming every single month.
Great things going on.
I'm gonna reach out to have him on the show because he needs to be on here, just talk to us.
But also, every February for Black History Month, he has wonderful, wonderful stories and pieces of history about important
often overlooked unknown people in history.
At least I should say to mainstream America.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's fair.
Casper on the text line says, I people standing on the benches at summer fest drives me crazy.
I don't want to have to stand at a tiny bench for an hour and a half to see the band I came to see an
hour and a half.
Then
that's one long show.
When you're, I have to believe that anyone who, who, who went to summer fest in their, in their teens and early twenties has an experience of, we're going to go see this band, whatever.
Like in my experience, it was the flaming lips.
We went to go see the flaming lips and they were headlining.
We got there at opening and got our seats and we sat there for hours.
And you camped there.
Yup.
Yeah.
That was a.
wild, crazy show that night.
That was kind of a rite of passage though,
back in the day.
Your knees are fine.
You have energy.
Your patience level is so high
because you're
going to see this band you love.
Now I'd be like, can I pay someone to sit there for me?
And then I'll come and take the seat.
Thank you.
That could always get a little contentious too, the saving of the picnic tables.
I wasn't going to say it.
That flaming lip show that I went to go see at Summerfest was one of the most unhinged
And if you know that band, they're about fun, peace, love, family, just good time.
I saw a man threatened to beat a woman up over seat occupation.
Like, he just got in her face, I'm like, oh, am I gonna watch a guy get arrested right now?
Nothing happened, but I was just like, they're just, they're just chairs.
Be okay here.
Summerfest, I think that's another reason why is that people who have been over served are not the best people to be around.
I think that's a very good point.
No matter where you are.
Yeah.
Summerfest or not.
Fair point.
Yeah.
No matter where you are, people who have over-indulged, yeah, just don't bring a whole lot to the party.
Yeah, no, don't.
Again, have a wonderful, wonderful Juneteenth.
If you are celebrating, don't forget that that special event going on in the Summerfest grounds starts at six o'clock tonight.
Entry just 19 bucks after 6 p.m.
And the weather right now is looking pretty good too, so.
For now, we're going to talk to Brittany in a little bit and it's going to get hot.
But also if you're going to Juneteenth celebrations or summer fest, take pictures and email them to us.
Text them to us.
Jane says at civicmedia.us.
We'd love to see the fun time that you are having while you're out and about.
Be
careful if you're doing table dancing.
I say this from experience.
Oh, really Jane?
Oh darn, we have to go to break soon.
I was
promised a table dancing story at Summerfest.
Yeah, that was
the time when I, speaking of being over served, might have had a little too much.
I was doing a great triple flip with a Sal cow and I fell off the picnic table and I landed on the bench.
That didn't go so well.
Yeah, when I tried to impress the doctor with my dance moves, he was like, you're an idiot.
And he was right.
Okay, when we return, Brittany Merleau will be here.
We're gonna have a little weather and just a little wine.
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Civic media meteorologist, multi-award winner, Brittany Merlot.
is here.
Good morning, my friend.
How are things in Wausau today?
Good morning.
I'm pretty decent.
We're starting to get a little bit cloudy.
We've got a little bit of rain that wants to roll through our area, but it's pretty much the only spot in the state that's about to rain.
It's been interesting.
Yeah, it's been interesting watching some of the rain patterns where some parts have gotten hit really, really hard and now there's just a little bit of a kiss.
But I know that we're seeing a lot of warnings already about this weekend and how hot it's going to be.
Yes, we've got a couple of different things going on before we even get to the heat.
We've got severe weather potential, then we've got the heat moving in for the weekend, then more severe weather after the weekend.
So what's happening is we have this front that's kind of sitting over northern Wisconsin right now, and that's going to continue to send chances of showers and storms, especially this afternoon, increasing into tonight.
And then it could turn into a mesoscale convective system, which is a big storm that rolls through the state and could hit everyone tomorrow morning.
So
not a mesoscale convection system.
No.
MCS.
Now you guys are cool.
Now you know the loop.
Spread the word.
MCS might come.
Oh,
no.
That's a mesoscale convective.
No, convective system.
Thank you.
Oh, there's Jane.
No
problem.
No
problem.
Yeah.
So.
Is that the heat dome that I've seen mentioned?
Yes, yes, it is.
Yeah.
So then that starts to lift up.
That'll kick on out of here as we go into the week at the dangerous heat follows.
I mean, it is going to be pulling in this humidity that we have not felt yet this year.
Do points are going to be in the mid to upper seventies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that means it's going to be.
a heavy wet moist air where just kind of you know you kind of feel claustrophobic the sweat doesn't really evaporate off you very fast and you can warm up pretty quickly and temperatures 90 95 degrees statewide now southern areas you've hit the 80s mid 80s upper 80s quite often up north not so much so this is really going to be a shock to a lot of our systems
it's going to be 90 degrees in northern wisconsin
Yes, it is.
Wow.
Mid 90s too with Northern Wisconsin, Western and Northwestern Wisconsin are really, really going to heat up.
Actually, we're staying a little bit cooler by Lake Michigan and along that state line compared to the rest of the state.
I can't remember if it was Monday or Tuesday, but that feeling when you walk out of your house and it's morning and you're expecting, even if it's like that cool feeling of morning and when it's hotter, you're like, oh.
This is coming.
You're like, this doesn't feel good.
I got
to
turn
my
air conditioning on my car.
You can just feel the moisture in the air.
Yeah.
It's going to be one of those weekends where you step outside and you're going to start sweating pretty much immediately.
So
ladies, don't do
your makeup.
Don't do any of that.
The hair will curl and frizz, which
is why
I'm rocking the curly hair already.
Just, you know.
Nothing.
You may as well embrace it, right, Brittany?
Yeah.
Nothing
you can do
about it.
Tony on the live stream just says, I don't like it.
Hey, it's summer weather, it's
beach weather, get in
the lake weather.
A good reminder though, again, especially for this weekend and if you're going to be seeing the 90s, mid 90s and areas where you are not used to it, please keep an eye out for elderly neighbors and elderly people in your neighborhood and also for your pets.
This is not going to be the weekend to take your dog along as you go run errands.
I used to do that when my dog was alive, but anytime it was over 75.
The insides of cars heat up so fast it's really dangerous.
Even the concrete, the asphalt, I was looking it up.
95 degree temperatures, that concrete is going to be 100 to 140 degrees.
The asphalt is going to be about 140 to 155 degrees.
So your pets pause walking on them.
If they're walking fast, they're probably burning.
Yeah, those pets can burn.
You know, what I love about this time of year is I look at Maybell and I tell her he can't go outside.
It's too hot.
And she goes, I get it.
I understand.
I'll just be very calm right now for the rest of the day as I have to be inside all day long.
It's the worst.
It's like I'm
trying
a cold or hot.
You're trying to protect them, but they don't know what
that
means.
Joe from Superior listening on WBZH says it's cooler by Lake Superior.
Come to Superior and enjoy our natural air conditioning.
But even Superior is going to see some of this hot weather, aren't they?
They are.
I know that Lake does real well with the natural AC, but it's going to sneak into you even Superior.
I promise you're going to get warm.
And I love, I love that part of that.
I love that part of her state, the northern, northwestern part of her state.
We should go on a road trip.
We
should totally go on a road trip, say maybe like next month.
I
don't know.
We'll
see what happens.
We'll talk about
that.
We'll pick me up.
I want to go.
Done
and done.
I'm on the way.
So once this heat gets out of here this weekend, Brittany, then you said that we have more potential for severe weather coming in.
Yep.
So the front lifts are goes right back through the state.
So Monday and a Tuesday, we're looking at more strong and severe storms moving through and then our temperatures moderate, but it's still summer.
So
it's still going to be warm.
When we talk about moderate, I mean, are we going to be eighties or?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Eighties hanging around.
That's better.
I'll take
that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yes.
Yes.
Absolutely.
I and I told myself I wouldn't do this because it's that notion of you live in Wisconsin.
This is what happens.
winter is going to be cold, summer is going to be hot, and it's just, I feel like, and we just never get like a prolonged spring or a prolonged fall.
It's like 20 minutes of spring, that it's hot, 20 minutes of fall, then it's cold and wet, and then cold and cold.
True.
It's one of the joys of living here.
You and I have
different definitions of
the word
joy.
Brittany Merleau joins us once a week to talk a little weather and wine.
Civic media meteorologist.
Thank you so much, Brittany.
We will see you next Thursday.
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Let's talk a little bit about Jair Alexander.
Poor Jair Alexander.
So one of the real packers star draft picks of recent times, but Jair Alexander has been, I think I usually call them a tricky person on the show.
He has been frequently injured and there's been concern on the team that he
was not playing when maybe he could have been playing.
It got contentious and they just let him go.
They sold around for trade partners, couldn't find anybody and let him hit them, just hit the market, just cut him and he was signed this week by the Ravens, which is...
Honestly, probably a pretty good landing spot for him.
The Ravens are the best team in football at creating depth, but because they're good, like the Packers often are, they're not always the greatest at picking stars in the draft because they're picking so late.
They love to, they're the best at drafting depth.
They're awesome at it.
So for an injury prone player who has star potential, it's a great landing spot because they can deal with him missing games better than just about anybody else can.
They are the contenders for the title year.
out and we will get to see Mr. Alexander again on December 27th if he's healthy enough to play when the Packers play the Ravens right around Christmas time.
I want to go back to something that you said that Jair Alexander may have sat out games where he was actually able to play.
That just seems completely counter to what I always felt about football players is that they would go out there no matter how hurt they were.
I think there was some background bad blood between him and the team and that he was making some business decisions with his health a couple of times out there.
He had some weird instances of like inserting himself into the captainship of the team when he wasn't captain for a game, which ticked everybody off of just randomly disappearing.
He's an odd fellow.
He's not necessarily like... I like odd fellow because sometimes we have guys who are like...
domestic abusers and worse things on drivers.
He's not that.
He's just kind of an odd guy.
And so the Packers haven't been the best at managing their odd guys over the last several years.
And some teams are better at it, honestly.
And maybe he will fit in a little bit better on the Ravens than he did here.
Is odd guy another way of calling him an ego maniac?
Because it sounds to me like the man's got an ego problem.
Everybody in football has an ego problem.
It's probably a fair thing to say.
But I think even amongst football players, he just is a little bit of a strange guy.
And you get a lot of personalities, especially when you enter the big ego world of professional sports.
You get weird people.
It's a weird way to live.
You're rich.
You're better at this thing than anybody else.
It's one thing.
Traveling all the time.
It attracts, you know, an odd group.
And Alexander is just in that group.
And, you know, it's kind of unfortunate because he is very, very good when he's on the field.
When he goes out there, he's one of the best corners in football, just did not mesh over the last couple of years.
You know, the other thing, the Packers...
don't really have stars in the defensive secondary, but they were quietly very good without him last year.
And I think that also, I mean, if they were desperate, they probably would have found a way to get him back, but they're not.
I think the outward looking for the Packers is they could use a few more corners.
But even without any true star power, they were good.
And Qisha Nixon tags all of the like back end analytics stats for being maybe much better than people think he is.
So
I think they think they're okay.
They can live with this.
And it's probably honestly better for everybody involved.
I don't know if this is the overall consensus amongst Packer fans, but I did see a tweet from the Baltimore Ravens where he was signing his contract and it said something effective.
Like he's a Raven or he's or something like that.
And I saw one of my friends just goes, just says, bye.
We'll help you back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good luck.
See
ya.
The other thing, I'm so glad that we're going to talk about this because this has been my contention from the beginning.
Aaron Rodgers made it up.
Come
on.
Allegedly.
This whole thing about Aaron Rodgers got married.
Sure you did.
You got pushed off the front pages when you joined the Steelers by some breaking news and that hurt your little feefies.
And so you had to come up with something to get yourself back in the spotlight.
I think he made the whole thing
up.
I mean, speaking of odd guys.
Aaron first of all the joke that everybody needs to be telling of course is that what he should have answered is I've been eloped when asked and so Aaron Roger shows up to the Steelers wearing a ring and people ask me if he's married and he says yes he got married He's not disclosing who he got married to and oh, I thought her name was Brittany
with an
eye.
Oh, is it?
Honestly, I've been
I've been busy but there's no record of the marriage so it's it's just Aaron Rodgers can't do anything normal of course including get married and so it's uh it is just
Drawn him.
I mean, he was already back on the front page a little bit with the stealer signing in the first place But this just pushes him right back to the forefront because now he gets celebrity press in addition to football press and if there's nothing celebrity press loves more than trying to track down someone's secret slash semi-secret right maybe wife
Aaron in a nutshell just can't stay out of the limelight.
He is not his own worst enemy because he looked the only thing Aaron likes more than attention is money and so Those two things are at stake.
You will always be hearing about him
and I didn't I didn't look because I was too well one I really don't care that much about Aaron Rodgers I just like they didn't get they didn't get married in a in a courthouse.
They got married in the church of the mind
Oh, maybe
it
was an isolation tank somewhere and they were both floating in salt water and exchange their vows
Quite possibly I mean I bet it was weird But
the question I do have though is what were the terms of the contract was it a one-year contract?
It's one year, and it's not that much money.
It's a shoot I can't remember the actual value.
I think it was like 16 I do not have it off the charts right now, but it was so it's not he's not getting paid
like he was with the Jets and the Packers.
He's always had very unreasonable contract.
when he was good, not unreasonable, but contracts that are difficult to escape.
This is not that.
This is like a one year and I might be done style contract, which is totally fine for Aaron.
Honestly, that's what he should have been getting for the last few years.
That's amazing to me that like, you know, we'll take you because it just seems like the Steelers are doing a, yeah, we'll take you and then I don't have it like, but we'll pay you 16 million, which when you look at, I don't know how he's, how he has spent his money.
I have a feeling he's frugal and
borderline cheap, but I mean over his career, which has been now 20 plus years, 22 years, I think.
Yep.
He has made a lot of money.
Oh yeah.
A lot of money.
He's made just gobs.
And I was close.
My heuristic was an average.
So he has $10 million guarantee.
He can make, he's probably going to make something like 14 million, but he's got incentives that can push it up to like 18, 19 million.
So 16 million is probably about right.
That's the ballpark.
Can I just say, I find it remarkable that when you're getting paid $10 million a year, you need incentives.
I find that kind of astonishing.
If
I was
making $10 million a year, I think I would feel it incumbent upon me to bring my best every day, even though it's not $14 million.
Yeah, I agree with that NFL contracts though are bizarre in another way which leads to incentives a lot of time which is Agents like to be able to advertise or have out there in the news that a guy got paid like a huge amount of money and of course teams don't like to pay a huge amount of money right so they have a lot of ways of creating the legal fiction that you're getting paid a lot of money when you're really not I mean in the NFL all that really matters is your guaranteed money and your signing bonus because you're
The rest of your salary is not guaranteed.
It's game check to game check.
And if you don't play, you don't get paid.
You can be cut for that.
So incentives are just like the way that agents tack on to like, Oh, I got my guy signed for this much years and $200 million.
Like, no, you didn't.
You got him signed for like 80 million, but there's a bunch of incentives that they'll never meet in a million years.
So that's how that works.
That's something I like further down the road.
Like we give a conversation about that because I never even
I never even knew that was a thing.
I just figured when they, I knew, I knew incentives and I know that, you know, playoff bonuses and playoff wins and things that you'll get more money.
But I just figured when you saw like, you know, so and so is getting $300 million to play for the baseball team.
And they're like, is that, is that what you're saying?
Is that they're not actually getting 300 million.
They're getting X amount, but with the possibility of 300 million.
Yes.
In the NFL in particular.
At the NFL contracting system is weird.
In baseball, you are getting everything that you're getting.
So those are very, very different ways of handing out contracts.
We are talking all things sports with the Acme packing companies.
Paul Noonan is here.
Brewer's got rained out yesterday when they tried to play the Cubs.
Today they are back at it.
Our broadcast starts at 12.45 if you want to listen to the game.
But how is their new hot, super hot kid pitcher doing?
The
Miz.
The Miz is great.
I'm sad I did not get to go yet.
I was in Wrigley Villiers.
I was this close to being in the stadium yesterday until it got raided out because I wanted to see Miz Rowski in person.
He is a phenomenal prospect and he's not without his flaws.
He did struggle a little bit with control coming up through the minors, but struggling a little bit with control for that guy.
is a very minor thing to overcome.
He's thrown the hardest pitch in professional baseball, I think maybe ever, but certainly over the last decade.
He threw 103 mile per hour fastball at AAA.
He throws absolute gas.
Honestly, with pitchers that throw as hard as Miz, you kind of worry because their elbows will explode at some point.
And they kept him in the minors quite a while to gain an extra baseball.
service time manipulation garbage to try and get an extra year of cheap control out of him later.
But he could have been in the majors at the start of the season.
He is super fun to watch.
He throws a 95 mile an hour slider, a pitch that should be like six, seven, eight miles an hour slower than that.
Throws a pretty good curveball.
He's a giant man at six, seven.
Wow.
Yeah.
In addition to throwing harder than anybody else, his release point is so much further forward than every other pitcher that he creates by far the shortest amount of time you have to react to his fastball than any pitcher in baseball.
Interesting.
That's really
interesting.
The Brewers have become very good at creating flamethrowers down in the minors.
They have the best pitching lab.
Mizorowski is one of the best prospects to come out of it.
really ever, and they've had Corbin Burns and Woodruff come out of it.
Nobody's had the high-end talent that he has and still been able to maintain being a starter.
They've had guys like Abner Uribe, who throws almost as hard, that haven't been able to maintain starting and had to go to the bullpen.
This is the best chance they've had at a legitimate frontline stud in ages.
And he's a young man, isn't he?
Yeah, he is.
He is.
He is very, very young.
Churio kind of messes up my who is young in baseball metrics.
But yeah, he's just a kid out there.
He's kidding.
Because Churio is all of what, 21?
Just turned 21.
Yeah.
Tiner retire.
Paul Noonan is with the Acme packing company.
And we talk all things sports.
Thank you so much, Paul.
We will see you next week.
Sounds good.
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Jane says, at civicmedia.us, this from the Associated Press.
Lucky Mark Scalforro with the byline, the headline reads, could you eat this much ice cream after walking 1100 miles?
Some Appalachian Trail Hikers, try it.
This is apparently a thing Sam Cooper had just trekked seven miles on a stretch of the Appalachian Trail When he sat down outside a little country store in Pennsylvania to take on the ice cream challenge So so apparently it's not enough to hike the Appalachian Trail, which is an accomplishment.
Yeah
But now you have to sit and you have to polish off a whole thing of ice cream before you've accomplished anything
so wait
He
hiked seven miles.
He hiked seven miles.
And then you do some ice cream.
And then, yes, nearly 40 minutes and 2,500 calories.
Later, Mr. Cooper was polishing off the final sporkful of chocolate chip cookie dough and added his name to the list of through hikers.
who celebrated the halfway point of the Appalachian Trail by downing a half gallon of ice cream.
So apparently when you're halfway through the Appalachian Trail, now in order to be one of the elite, you have to eat a half a gallon of ice cream.
Jake, let me tell you why chocolate chip cookie
dough is a bad
idea on this one.
It's so filling, so filling.
You want to keep it simple, like your chocolate, your vanilla, maybe even a Neapolitan, but not something with a lot of like additives in there.
You don't want like elephant tracks or anything like that.
So basically like a whole second dessert.
By the end of this experience, 32 year old Sam Cooper, whose name, whose trail name.
This is apparently a thing.
You have to have a trail name.
His trail name is Pie Top.
Hate that.
Nope.
Sorry.
He said the experience was pure misery.
I don't think anybody should be doing this.
This is not healthy at all.
Dear Mr. Top,
was anyone lording over you with a weapon to your head?
Did you have to do this?
The Ice Cream Challenge is believed to have begun more than 40 years ago.
at some general store a few miles north of the halfway point on the Appalachian Trail through hikers, as they're called, are just a fraction of the amount of people who actually do this.
Not everyone finishes the Appalachian Trail in one whole slog.
But as they slog their way through Northern Virginia and Maryland, the ice cream challenge, a regular topic among through hikers.
So wait a minute, really quick.
So it's 1,100 miles.
Which seems
A lot.
It seems like it can be a lot.
That can be a torture on your body.
But somehow what's worse than that is having to eat ice cream.
That is the real problem here.
Not the rocky terrain or the uncertain weather or maybe, oh my God, did my food make the post?
No, it's, it's, man, I got to really down this.
I got to really down.
Now the hard part of this thing.
This big chocolate chip.
49 year old Steven Barrens, who is a through hiker.
His trail name is Speedy.
Polished off his black cherry and vanilla in about 25 minutes after going 17 miles on the trail that day with seven more to go.
Trail experts say hikers can need up to 6,000 calories a day.
Fair enough.
Barron said, I thought it would be worse, but it's okay after patting his stomach, finishing off the half gallon of ice cream.
Such a crazy idea.
Zeke Medoc.
Trail named Petroglyph.
This is ridiculous.
It just seems so random.
Didn't bother timing himself, but did finish off the ice cream and said, now I'm done.
This is the most free I've ever felt.
Okay.
Yeah, no.
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