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Now that there's anything going on in Washington, that's worthy of talking about.
Well,
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We're going to talk about our, what we did memorial.
Our favorite summer cocktails.
I love
it.
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I love a fine mimosa in the morning.
I'm sure he has his thoughts.
Yeah.
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Wisconsin Senior Senator Ron Johnson.
He has concerns because I'm concerned about Ron Johnson.
He stopped at the Milwaukee Press Club earlier this week as well as the Medical College of Wisconsin.
We talked about that a little bit yesterday.
Dan Schaefer was there at the press club when Ron Johnson was speaking, so we will talk to Dan about that.
Also, potential changes for 794.
If you are in the Milwaukee area, you know what that's about.
I am going to ask him to give a brief overview of the entire thing because I heard last year people like 794.
I'm like, yeah, totally 794.
Yeah.
See, and now I use it every day.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I use it every single day.
I use it every single day.
I use it
all the time, all the time.
But there are some people who would like to see it go away.
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Last half hour of the show is what we call Audio Sorbet, where we like to take a little break, take a little breath, get away from the news.
So we're going to talk about the spelling bee winner.
The script spelling bee winner was named last night.
And we have a clip from the winner, which is pretty fantastic.
14 years old.
Yeah.
No, 13.
Obviously 13.
13.
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Yes.
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That will be coming up after the 1030 News and we'll wrap up the show as we always do with this.
It shouldn't be a thing.
Today it is the Get Off My Lawn Edition.
There's an incredible visual that goes along with today's tisbet.
So I hope you can stick around for that.
Did want to start off with a reminder of the DNR.
is out with the statements.
Again, we are back where we were two summers ago.
Two summers,
yes.
With wildfire smoke in Canada, potentially pushing into our state a little bit later on today, and that's gonna make things nasty, especially for people who have respiratory issues.
And if you have asthma and things like that, they are telling you to stay inside as much as humanly possible.
If you're gonna be exercising,
take it easy and just be aware.
But they do say that much of Wisconsin will potentially reach the red air quality index, and that is considered unhealthy.
And that's what we were looking at this morning.
That's four out of the six.
I was listening on it as I was coming in.
After red, you think red would be the highest?
Yes.
It's not.
After red comes purple.
And after purple comes maroon.
I think we need to talk to those
people.
Yeah, they need to readjust that scale.
I agree.
Hey,
are you listening air quality people?
They're going, no, no,
we're not.
But anyway, yeah, they have out of control wildfires that has prompted a state of emergency in Manitoba, Canada.
Thousands of people have been forced to evacuate.
So we certainly send our thoughts to those folks.
But again, the DNR asking people who are part of sensitive groups, again, like asthma, make your outdoor activity shorter and less intense.
We do expect maybe because it's gonna warm up today that later on this afternoon, some storms might be popping up and that should hopefully tamp down some of the particulate that's in the air.
Wanted to start off talking about Tom Tiffany.
Oh, I was having a good day.
Tom Tiffany
at this point is still considering whether or not he will run for governor against Tony Evers And I did a little search on the Google Tom Tiffany accomplishments because I was curious I don't live in in his district.
He's he's up north and I don't live up there So I was just curious as to what Tom Tiffany is accomplished in all of his years in office
And an opinion piece in the cap times came up.
So maybe this isn't exactly fair.
That's never stopped me.
Legislature's chief DNR antagonist and rabid supporter of opening new mining ventures in the north, Tom Tiffany.
Yep.
Let's not forget it was last year that Tom Tiffany wanted to change the designation of the Apostle Islands to a national park.
Yeah.
And.
I remember when that came around and my knowledge of the national parks is, is cursory at best.
I've only been to a few and I was like, Oh, wait a minute.
This sounds amazing.
Like this could be good for tourism.
This could be good for maybe federal funding through the, through the wildlife and DNR and all this stuff.
Lo and behold, we come to find out not only is it not what we think, but we spoke to folks from up there and
they gave
us the full business on opinions when it comes to what they think of this.
trying to happen and what Tom Tiffany is really looking to do with
benefiting.
Well, they want to open up the, they want to open up the the Apostle Islands to mining.
Yeah.
Essentially.
Yeah.
That's, that is Tom Tiffany's goal.
And as you said, when we've talked to folks from up there,
They don't know how they could handle another huge influx of influx of tourists in those areas.
I've been to Bayfield.
I love Bayfield.
It's one of my favorite places on the planet.
It's tiny.
Yeah.
It's tiny.
Most of those, most of those towns up there are not huge with the ability to accommodate thousands and thousands of people.
Oh, at least thousands and thousands.
Yeah.
So, Dom Tiffany was on WIS ends up front.
Oh boy.
Last Sunday.
And if you remember, Governor Evers at one point issued guidelines for state employees to follow should ICE show up.
Yep.
And all he essentially did in my understanding was tell them what their legal rights are.
Yeah.
It wasn't go hide people.
It wasn't go, you know, it wasn't anything like that.
It was essentially here is here are your rights.
if you are in this situation when ice shows up and here's what you do.
Sounds pretty basic to me.
Doesn't sound all that controversial to me, but Tom Tiffany on WIS ends up front, had a different take on that.
Calvin, can you play that clip please?
in the Judiciary Committee.
I know the Department of Justice is looking at this very closely because we brought it up with the Attorney General Pam Bondi and they are very concerned.
What type of repercussions could the Judiciary Committee or the DOJ I guess impose on the governor when it appears that he just advised state employees to call an attorney first?
Well, I would leave that to Tom Holman.
The borders are he has talked about this.
I'm not sure what they can do, including the Department of Justice.
But
it's
very clear he was stepping up to the line.
Maybe he didn't break the law, but he was stepping up to the line.
Look,
when the governor says this is the ball, the questions of law that come up, you should consult an attorney.
I think that's good advice.
Yeah.
OK.
And Tiffany said it out loud.
He didn't cross the line.
He didn't break the law.
What Governor Evers did by issuing these guidelines to state employees is not a crime.
No,
no, no.
And we're not lawyers.
We are lawyer adjacent.
We are.
I am confident in your statement, Jane, that he did not break the law that could be held up in a court of law because it's this ridiculous posturing we're now seeing.
I mean, first of all, he's like, he stepped up to the line.
Did he cross it?
Did he break the law?
And then as soon as, you know, he gets on TV and says, they're going to do something about it.
Well, what are they going to do?
Congressman Tiffany.
Oh, don't ask me.
Right.
I don't really know what he did.
I don't know what the Justice Department can do.
Right.
So You're now You At the very least puff your chest beat your chest say we're gonna
we're gonna do
run Johnson does when we're talking about 9-11 We're calling for hearings and we're gonna investigate every governor who says to do this thing But it was just a big nothing burger from his part and that's kind of what Tom Tiffany is is a nothing burger
He's not an effective leader and he is a guy who has made more of a voice in the day of Trump.
But
like Ron Johnson in his first term has really been a back bench or not really.
Many people know about him.
If you say who's Tom Tiffany in this state, a lot of people aren't going to know him because he hasn't made a lot of headway in Congress.
So.
This is what he, like, this is perfect Tiffany's, like, we should investigate on what?
I don't know.
Well, if you live in Tom Tiffany's district, I would love to hear from you because correct me if I'm wrong.
But I believe that Tom Tiffany was there when they announced the funding to fix the Blotnick Bridge.
Yes, yes.
Right?
Yes, he was there.
He was there all about it.
Look what we did.
Look at the money that we brought back to help fix the Blotnick Bridge, which connects Superior to Luth.
You know who brought that money to Wisconsin?
Was it the lady at the end of that clip?
It was that lady.
Senator Tammy Baldwin.
Yeah, Senator Tammy Baldwin is the one who brought that billion dollars to Wisconsin to help fix that bridge.
But Tom Tiffany, of course, in nonpartisan fashion and compromise and working together, he voted for that bill, right?
No.
Oh, he voted against it?
Yes, that was part of the
infrastructure act, yeah.
My mistake.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he voted.
He voted against it.
But he was there to take credit for
it.
Oh, they
love taking credit.
They do.
When the ribbon cuttings happen and all those things and the press is there and something to take credit for.
Yeah.
Not
nice.
He probably put it on a mailer.
Could be.
Yeah.
When we return, this just gets better and better.
We talked to you yesterday about the MAHA report.
Make America healthy again.
which contains a whole bunch of studies that don't exist, but don't worry.
The Trump Press Secretary has the explanation for it.
We'll share that with you on the other side.
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Wanted to just share this just a little bit because we did talk about it yesterday at the MAHA report that came out from Bob Jr.'
's Department of Health and Human Services.
on all of the things that we should be doing to protect our health and do good things for our health.
The official report that came out yesterday has a whole bunch of studies cited in there.
As it should.
That don't exist.
Darn it.
They do not exist.
We have news outlets that have tracked down some of the authors of these studies.
And while these scientists might exist.
the reports that their names are attached to do not.
And just like that summer reading list we covered last week, this smacks of the same thing where it is someone fed information into AI and receive, and the rumor, I'm only gonna say a rumor, but some people are saying, is that this report written by, you know, not a doctor, Robert Kennedy, is mostly AI generated.
Yeah.
Hence the mistakes.
Make America easy again.
But don't worry.
Don't worry?
No, White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt was asked about this yesterday.
Gavin, let's play this clip from Carolyn Levitt, please, explaining what the problem was with this report from Robert Kennedy Jr., the head of the Department of Health and Human Services.
We have complete confidence in Secretary Kennedy and his team at HHS.
I understand there were some formatting issues with the mama report that
are being
addressed, and the report will be updated, but it does not negate the substance of the report, which as you know is one of the most transformative health reports that has ever been released by the federal government, and is backed on good science that has never been recognized by the federal government.
Well, it's not recognized because
the studies don't exist, Ms.
Levitt.
And formatting.
Formatting.
Formatting issue.
That is the...
When I think of
a formatting issue, I think of things not being all in a straight line
or
an unintended insert in the middle of something.
Too many fonts.
Yes.
Too many fonts.
Too large.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And by the way...
Those are formatting issues.
Here's the thing is...
If you disagree with us, if you think this report was great, but you don't know how to save a file as a PDF, you don't get to say anything because you're formatting.
It is also terrible.
This is, I mean, I have to imagine, I just imagine Carolyn, right?
Carolyn Levitt goes into her home every night and just takes the face off of her face and just for 20 minutes goes, because I mean, the, the Olympic level of lying she is doing.
is, I mean, it goes back to- Well, that's why she's making good money.
It goes back to what I said to yesterday to Jim Santel on the show is, at what point do these become violations of a First Amendment?
When does this become culpable?
When does these words that they are saying actionable as like, you put out this report, we did these things, now someone is sick, dying, or dead because of what you've done, and you have to pay-
the judicial penalty.
But it didn't happen during COVID.
No, of course, it's oh no change
there were there there was you know, right and you know He said it was gonna.
It's gonna disappear like a miracle.
It's gonna be gone by Easter.
It's gonna be gone by here It's gonna be gone by yeah,
we said June July August We have three more months until they discover the cause of autism and they can neutralize it.
That's what they said They were gonna do as well.
I'm not I'm being pie in the sky to a person right now I'm not dumb enough to believe that they're actually something's gonna happen to these individuals, right?
But to me this is dangerous
So dangerous.
I
agree with you.
But don't worry again.
All this inaccurate information and apparently just invented studies in this big report from Robert Kennedy, Jr.'
's Health and Human Services.
They're just formatting errors.
I just love how you can do.
You can blame that too.
Right?
Honey, honey, I wasn't cheating on you.
There were formatting issues.
Gene from Eau Claire is on the line.
Gene, you got about 40 seconds.
Take it away.
Okay, the con continues.
Remember Foxconn, Scotty Walker, the people that are now in the federal government that help him pull off all the cons and the people in Wisconsin.
And Tony Avers, we're building our roads.
He's doing all kinds of things for the people.
Don't let the con man come in again and take over our state.
It's up to us to stop these people.
Thank you guys and have a great weekend.
Oh, don't forget to turn on James Santel tomorrow at 9 a.m.
Bye.
Thanks, Gene.
Really appreciate it.
Check out Jim tomorrow from 9 to 11.
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Delighted to be joined by Representative Mark Poe.
Can taking some time out for us this morning.
Good morning, Representative.
Thank you so much for being here.
How you doing?
Hey, good morning.
Thanks so much for having me.
I am doing really well.
Been home all week.
which is a bonus.
Yeah, no kidding.
We're going to get to town halls probably towards the end of our conversation because I'm just curious if you're going to be out hitting the road since Democrats seem to be willing to talk to people who vote.
The
other
side, the other side, not necessarily so much.
We did want to start off the representative with this report that came out from Robert Kennedy Jr.'
's
Department of Health and Human Services, the MAHA report that came out yesterday, which it has been determined that a number of the studies cited in this report don't exist.
Calvin, we still have that clip from White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt explaining why that is.
Let's play that clip for Representative Pokan, please.
We have complete confidence in Secretary Kennedy and his team at HHS.
I understand there were some formatting issues with the MAHA report that are being addressed and the report will be updated, but it does not negate the substance of the report, which as you know, is one of the most transformative health reports that has ever been released by the federal government is in his backed on good science that has never been recognized by the federal government.
Well, it's not recognized because those reports don't exist.
Find that somewhat problematic, do you?
Oh,
man.
We had Secretary Kennedy in front of my subcommittee a few weeks ago, and I was trying to be nice.
When I asked him, I thought some friendly, softball-ish questions that would provide people some reassurance around vaccines.
And he took it in a very, very different direction.
And throughout the hearing listening to him,
I think his idea of science and science's idea of science are maybe a little different.
And I think it's admirable that he wants to take out some of the dyes that are carcinogenic and other things.
I think that's the right thing to do.
And I give him credit.
And I told him that in the beginning of the questioning, but then he takes it sometimes a step or maybe a few.
Running John's too far and then goes into this junk science and stuff that you know really isn't verified so You know the problem is not been back home.
I'm talking to all kinds of people who work for the university researchers and others People who work with medical devices in the area and everyone's just afraid because science is no longer respected in this administration and it's really difficult for them to move forward with Things like this report yesterday
Well, and Representative Pocan, we actually have a clip of that, a brief portion of that clip.
Calvin, can you play that?
And I want to say something after that, but this is you speaking to Health and Human Secretary, Health and Human Service Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
Just because I think this is a helpful answer, and this isn't a gotcha, I promise.
If you had a child today, would you vaccinate that child for measles?
For measles?
probably for measles.
I, you know, what I would say is my opinions about vaccines are irrelevant.
I've directed Jay Bhattachara.
Sure.
No, as I said, I don't want to, so that everybody can make that decision.
But I, you know, I don't want to be seen like I'm being evasive.
Yeah.
But I don't think people should be taking advice, medical advice from me.
Right, no, I
got
that.
And I'm not asking you to give them medical
advice, but would you vaccinate your child for measles?
I think if I answer that question directly, that it will seem like I'm giving advice to other people, and I don't want to be doing that.
I want people to make that problem.
But that's kind
of your jurisdiction, because CDC does give advice, right?
I'm not trying to do
it as a gotcha.
It's just gone.
It's
your
job.
Yeah.
And I want to make something really clear.
I pulled that quote.
I pulled that section from a longer conversation.
There's no editing.
It's exactly how, but the thing is, is before and after you comport yourself with the notion of, I'm not trying to trick you up.
I'm not trying to.
Yeah, they wasn't trying to either.
That's the thing.
Yeah.
And, and, and yet he just, and, and we're seeing this with all sorts.
I mean, whether it's Kristi Noma, all sorts of individuals who just will never answer the questions that are real simple too.
Yeah, no, and it's secretary after secretary.
I asked, you know the secretary of education some really simple
questions as well about their agency, about the people they fired, and she didn't have answers.
You know, even the Secretary of Treasury, who's not a dumb person, Secretary Besant, but plays a dumb person on TV for Donald Trump, who couldn't answer a simple question about who pays tariffs, right?
And, you know, it got a lot of odds.
And then finally, it's a complicated question.
And, you know, the end of the day, we all, as consumers, pay tariffs, you know, because whoever's importing it is paying it, but they pass it on to us.
Right.
consumers but you know none of these people were selected for expertise.
Remember that the first time he did select people who at least were experts in areas this time around he selected people based on their Fox News video footage.
You submitted your video footage to him and your loyalty to him.
So you know of course that is great for authoritarians because that means you know no one's gonna question decisions you make.
But it's a very, very different way of dealing with the executive branch right now.
Well, and it's certainly previous people who have held cabinet positions are not necessarily experts on everything, but they have some experience with the issues that the agency that they're heading up are dealing with.
And that
is not the
case this time around.
And in the lead up to the November election,
We talked about Project 2025, which stated very, very explicitly the whole goal of a second Trump administration was to surround him with people who answered to him and only him.
That was their, that is their qualification, correct?
Yeah, I mean, this is not about any past presidency, Democrat or Republican that we've had that I guess I would say is normal.
This is about consolidating power to one person, not even one branch of government, to one person, Donald Trump.
And unfortunately, Congress, a co-equal branch of government, is also acquiescing, ignoring Article 1 of the Constitution that gives us the power of the purse and other powers, including tariffs.
And because of that, Donald Trump has
The power of a king he thinks even though the rule of law Disagrees with him and then good news is by the way i do want to say this because this is positive the rule of law largely is upheld he's had over a hundred
adjudications against him and he caves every time.
He is the caver in chief.
So, you know, he may try to do another lawsuit, but he where we're winning on a regular basis, including by Trump appointed judges in the courts.
Yes.
Well, and that's why he has been, he was freaking out on social media yesterday about the Supreme Court, the, uh, the international court that ruled against his tariffs.
And of course,
to Donald Trump and all of his supporters, anyone who rules against him is an activist judge.
Now everybody is an activist judge if they don't agree with Donald Trump.
And they even try to sneak some language in about the courts and their big, beautiful bill for billionaires.
And by doing that, I don't think that language, first of all, will hold through the Senate rules, much less
Senators go along with it, but there was an interesting exchange With a member from Nebraska who was asked about it and he told that in a town hall He said well, I didn't know that was in the bill and you should have saw the response he got well That's the problem when you write bills all night and you vote on them just as the Sun is starting to come up Maybe you got some problems in there.
In fact one problem if I can I know this is a quick aside, but there's a half a trillion dollar cut to Medicare
in the bill the house passed because it gets triggered by the sequestration rules for pago and they could have fixed it and they didn't because they didn't want to like they just want to get this thing done so every republican derek van orden brian style all the rest from wisconsin
voted
to cut a half a trillion dollars from our medicare that we paid into all our lives.
On that note, and this was speaking of a side note.
Here's another side note.
Joni Ernst from Iowa at a town hall was asked about Medicaid and snap cuts.
Some people in the crowd said, people are going to die because of this.
And her response was, well, we are all going to die.
Yes.
You know it's a new strategy But I didn't see that clip and I was astonished by it which is probably why you know Derek Van Orden's locked in the basement this week and not allowed to go out People like him don't maybe have the
cognitive ability to pivot on a question like that, and he might have had a similar answer.
And that's why they're told don't have town hall.
Well, and Derek Van Orton has been adamant that there will be no cuts from snap.
There will be no cuts from Medicaid.
Democrats are lying to the American people, according to Derek Van Orton.
You know, we're not like it's the Congressional Budget Office, which by the way, everyone there has been appointed by Republicans is the one who's giving us these numbers.
And so, you know, they can say what they want to, but 14 million people will lose health care.
11 million people will lose food assistance.
Millions of people will pay more for health insurance because there's a provision and we don't have the numbers on this where they take away some of the subsidies for the Affordable Care Act, $300 billion worth.
There was an example of a couple 60 years old making 85,000 in my district that their insurance would go up 227% up a $16,000 increase under the provision that's in the house pass bill
That seems unachievable
Yes, and that's the problem right they so much of the house bill is is ridiculously over the top
bad.
And the Senate's original bill they're working on had 2% of the cuts of the House.
Now, we'll see what happens.
Now, then again, we can't forget our Senator Ron Johnson, who doesn't have a problem with the severity of the cuts.
He has the problem with the leniency of the cuts, and he wants deeper cuts than the House passed.
So a half a trillion cut in Medicare, you know, a trillion dollars between Medicaid and ACA cuts isn't enough.
for Ron Johnson.
If you're just joining us, U.S.
Representative Mark Polkhan is our guest representing the second congressional district here in Wisconsin.
We're talking about the budget bill.
You did say something that I wanted to just take a moment to highlight.
Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson said this week that everyone on the congressional budget, the CBO, is a Democrat.
He said that this week that every single person on the CBO is a Democrat and therefore those numbers can't be trusted.
Yeah, they're all appointed.
Everyone who's the head of the CBO has been appointed by Republicans.
We haven't had a Democratic appointment in 10 years.
So, you know, he can say they can lie all they want to, but you know, I have faith in the American people and they're going to believe, to me, the single best way of
Proving our point isn't the he said she said arguing the numbers if you were really proud of this You would get on the rooftop with a megaphone and
brag
about it go across your district They have town halls to let them know what you're doing for them But when we get a chance to talk about the tax provisions wait till I share some stuff there about this bill I mean this is a bill that only Elon Musk and Donald Trump could love and that's why they're hiding in their basement So hopefully Derek will be able to come out on Monday when he's got to fly back to Washington But you know there's a good reason they're hiding
well, and that's
I mean, that's why they're talking about it and voting at midnight and two o'clock in the morning.
And they always say things like, do your research.
Well, yeah, but you're on television doing this work.
We know when like you could do it on a Tuesday at 12 noon.
We'll still see what's happening.
We're not not seeing this happen.
And you're right.
You want to be able to take something back to your constituents and your district and say, look what we're doing for you, but they're not because they know these constituents are
mad.
We've passed six bills this Congress six.
through the House Senate and signed into law.
This is their holy grail, the tax cut.
They've got a bunch of awful cuts, and that's why they're afraid to talk about it.
But again, the smell test, the common sense test, is you would be bragging about it if it was good.
The fact that you're not tells me everything.
I don't need to know, you know, for most people, they can tell who's authentic and
not about this.
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Congressman Mark Pocan is here and we're talking about the budget and many other things going on in Washington.
You had mentioned before the.
that every Wisconsin Republican is all about this.
Representative Brian Stiles says the House budget bill is unquestionably a step in the right direction.
Yeah, tell that to the 1.3 million people on Medicaid in Wisconsin that you're gonna maybe see their Medicaid taken away.
The one out of three kids in the state that gets their health insurance from Medicaid, 55% of seniors in nursing homes get their support from Medicaid.
45% of adults with disabilities living independently get their support from Medicaid.
So, you know, if he thinks it's so good.
I got the feeling there's a lot of people who may not agree with him right in southeastern Wisconsin.
Well, and we spoke to a gentleman who is on Medicaid, who has some physical challenges.
He is working.
And he talked about what a long process it is.
And and they get checked up on with with consistency.
It's not like nobody's there's no oversight over people who are receiving Medicaid.
Two thirds of the people are working poor.
uh, who are getting medicaid so they're already working right so this whole work requirement really is more of a paperwork requirement to make fewer people get their coverage arkansas did some of these changes
and
when they did it was found 70 of the people that lost their coverage were eligible but simply couldn't go through all the compliance hoops that it would take to do it so you know that's medicaid food assistance um you know not only did they
Severely cut it and hurt Wisconsin you know Derek Van Orden made some stupid comment about he fixed something on it Well the fix was like how you fix a dog because it's not Working anymore with what they did we're gonna be now on hooks administrative costs 75% of them not 50 50 split but also minimum 5% of the cost of the food share program the supplemental nutrition Assistance program Wisconsin is food share
But because we have one of the lowest air rates in the country but because of whatever fix Derek did We're probably not going to be online for 15 of the cost so it's somewhere between 130 and 300 million a year additional cost to wisconsin To pick this up and if we don't that means people even more people will lose uh their their food share but one last thing about this just it's so Horrible about how they did this now up to 56 years old, you know after 56 you don't have to as regularly
prove, you know, what you're doing to continue getting food assistance, they raise that to 64, because those spry 63 and 64 year olds, you know, but it used to be if you had a single parent and had a kids up to, you know, at 18, up to 18, you didn't have to do the compliance as often.
Now it's now up to eight.
Yep.
At eight years old, when you're old enough to work at a mine, I guess, you now have to prove that you still need food assistance.
Well, and that brings up two things that this discussion brings up.
One, if
If the money is going to be left to the state, good luck.
Madison, that state house doesn't like to fund anything, period.
You're on your own.
But also this whole thing of the working poor and the way that some congressmen and senators and just people who want this bill to go through frame it as able-bodied workers, which we don't talk about that, which is people who work a job whose job doesn't provide insurance, doesn't provide enough insurance, or their job says, hey, go on your state's insurance because that's better.
This is not people gaming the system.
This is not fraud or abuse.
This is about people who are not getting paid enough and people who don't have good health insurance.
So whenever they say able body, I say, oh, so you're talking about a terrible workplace for them.
But they're still doing it because they have to make money.
Yeah.
And the tax provisions, the few tax provisions that help tipped employees or on overtime pay, et cetera, all of that adds up to 5% of the bill.
the vast, vast majority goes to the very wealthiest in this country.
So, you know, this is a Elon Musk, Donald Trump, you know, dream, and the rest of us get to pay for it.
It's literally scraps on the table.
Like, here are your scraps.
Well, we get the fancy dinner.
You can have the leftovers, maybe.
Congressman Mark Pocan is our guest.
We have just a couple of minutes left.
Are you planning on going out on the road again, having a couple more town halls and some redder districts?
Yes, well, I did one in my district in Dodgeville this week, but tomorrow at 10 a.m.. And Eau Claire at the Pablo Center Derek and I have been invited by Opportunity, Wisconsin So I'm really looking forward to debating Derek on this bill my guess is it's more likely I will sprout a head full of hair At this thing tomorrow, but if he shows up I'm really looking forward to it if not at least people in Eau Claire can be heard They can see why Derek is hiding in the basement
probably next to the bar.
And we'll figure it all out from there.
But this is important to let people know what's in this bill because there is a very good reason why Republicans are hiding from town halls.
And people are showing up at these town halls that you're hosting that are not just Democrats, correct?
Oh, absolutely.
You know, everyone's invited, everyone.
And I'm glad to talk to anyone about the merits of this, because this is a meritless bill.
I mean, this is an awful bill on so many fronts.
I mean, we didn't even mention the $330 billion cut to higher education, largely Pell grants, including people who work.
and have Pell Grants.
It used to be you could have 12 credits in work and still get a Pell Grant.
Now they're going to take it up to 15.
And that's going to hurt many local employers that we're already hearing from too.
So it's full of bad ideas.
Congressman Mark Pocan from Wisconsin's second congressional district.
Thank you so very, very
much.
It was a
pleasure to talk to you.
Thank you.
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Great to be with you here in racing to Recombobulate on a Friday.
Where shall we start?
We shall we start with Ron Johnson was not on Fox News?
Well, he was this week, but he was also.
in Wisconsin.
He
has had quite the media tour this week.
Our senior senator
here in
Wisconsin has had.
He did a very long podcast with Tucker Carlson, a two hour podcast.
Now, I did not listen and watched that one for you, but I did watch his hour long
interview a newsmaker luncheon presented by the Milwaukee Press Club and with politics.
He also had an appearance at the Medical College of Wisconsin, which I think a number
of the
hosts here on the Civic Media Network have been talking about.
But I watched the Press Club interview so you don't have to.
This is why you make the big money,
Dan Sheik.
That's right.
Can I give you an award for just being a
hero right now?
Well, you know, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make for it to bring you great radio here on mat and air on air.
It was a long hour.
It was a long hour.
Yeah, it was a long hour.
Ron had a lot of things to say.
A lot of questions from the panelists, from the Milwaukee TV journalists that were hosting that one.
Charles Benson, Emily Fanon, and Matt Smith.
And then a number of questions from the audience as well.
And so some interesting back and forths in that and some interesting talks.
But I think the big picture of what I want to get to with this
discussion of Ron Johnson is that I think he is one of the most important people in America right now.
And I know that is frightening to hear because, you know, we've we talk about Ron Johnson a lot on this show.
We talk about Ron Johnson a lot here.
There's there's a lot we criticize him for.
But in these discussions about the big, beautiful bill, he has been the face of Republican
Senate Republican opposition.
He is the resistance.
He is well it is and it's funny because there are there are different senators who have like different things that they disagree with about this.
Josh Hawley from Missouri has talked about we don't want
big cuts to Medicaid
because there are a
lot of constituents that I have in Missouri who are on Medicaid.
Ron Johnson is taking a different approach.
Oh, considerably.
Considerably different approach.
He thinks this bill does not cut enough.
And, you know, over and over again, I mean, we've been following Ron Johnson as a senator in Wisconsin for 15 years now.
He was elected in 2010.
And it's crazy to think that he's been in our lives for that long.
But one thing about him has been very consistent.
and that he has wanted to talk about the debt and the deficit and the spending and all of that.
has been his main issue.
There was actually one point when the, with questioners, Dan Bice from the Journal Center, who was not a panelist, but asked a question when it opened up.
He asked, like, you came into office saying that you wanted to get rid of Obamacare and rein in spending.
Neither of those things have happened.
Do you consider your time like you're a failure?
And so it was like, there was a little bit of an interesting back and forth there, but there, but I think the big picture though, is that he in so many ways wants to
It wants to address spending, but only through cuts.
Yes.
He talks about it always as a spending problem.
Government has a spending problem.
This is a spending problem.
We're spending too much here.
Spending, spending, spending.
He never talks about the other side of the ledger.
He's like, oh, I'm a numbers guy.
I do all these things, blah, blah, blah.
He never talks about the other side.
And I think, I don't think government has a spending problem the way he characterizes it.
I think we should be spending on things like Medicaid.
We should be spending on things like Obamacare.
Yes, we need to tighten these things up and make them work more efficiently in all of those different things.
Yes.
But the problem, and I think most Americans would actually agree with this, is that we have a revenue problem because we don't tax millionaires and billionaires the way
we
should in this country.
And corporations.
And
corporations.
And so when he talks about reining and spending, and we need to address the deficit, we need to do all of these things.
Well, he has a cause of this in many ways.
Because in
2017, he
was
also in the same type of position where he was taking an inter-party opposition stance on the Trump tax cut bill.
And he fought for a measure in that bill that extended business tax cuts to pass-through entities, which not so coincidentally applied to his largest donors.
Huh.
Uh, to the
tune of hundreds of
millions of dollars in tax breaks, uh, in a single year, not to mention just like the, you know, what is it, eight, nine years since then.
So I think he is in a similar position now that he is in 2017.
I was a little frustrated.
People didn't really talk about what he did in 2017, but I think he is in this and remarkably important position again now.
and he is taking the approach not that we need to shore up Medicaid, not that we need to make sure of things, not that we need to raise taxes on billionaires, which I think, you know, like the Steve Bannon wing of the MAGA party has talked about wanting to do, but he is so dug in.
on this same, he also talked about how he's more of a Tea Party person than a Republican, than a member of the Republican Party.
And he's just the only thing he cares about is cutting spending.
And he doesn't characterize it as I'm going to cut Medicaid.
He's just like, oh, we're just gonna fix it.
He doesn't talk about it as a cut.
He talks about it as a fix.
Of course.
But, and again, that same issue always comes back for him.
He exploded the deficit with his addition to the tax bill and then is saying that we have
the biggest
problem we have
is the deficit
and the
debt, which he himself exploded.
Well, and the other thing that makes me crazy is when President Biden increased funding for the IRS so they could get more agents to specifically audit wealthy Americans, they brought in well over a billion dollars.
Yes.
within the first year.
And now they have cut that funding for those IRS agents, which seems completely counterproductive to me.
And
to be clear on that, it was not just going in and knocking on the doors of billionaires and millionaires and saying, you're going to pay your taxes.
Now these were people who were cheating the system, who have cheated the system.
Some people tried to frame it as auto workers and waitresses are getting audited.
But no, they're not.
These are millionaires and billionaires.
And yes, it brought in over a billion dollars.
Pure profit for the government.
Yeah, and I think one of the things, you know, you talk about Dan with regard to 2017 not getting the attention it deserves I think what he's done now since then in his second and now his third which he has dedicated to the vaccine injured of course because he's a hero He now covers up those I don't want to say crimes, but those
Those things he's done to the American people, he covers them up now with conspiracy theory, rhetoric and misinformation and redirection.
I mean, at the Milwaukee Press Club, the clip that they were putting on the journal Sentinel was him talking about Biden not being mentally acute, the mental acuity of Joe Biden.
I'm like, why is no one standing up saying, why do you need more money?
Why do you need more money and what like when I'm agreeing with Josh Holly?
Because he doesn't want to cut Medicaid and and Ron Johnson's like no I want to cut it more because I don't care about these people poor people do not matter to me
it's a
Yeah, he's had a few other comments on poor people.
Yes, I've heard that too.
In
his comment from the Medical College of Wisconsin saying that he, I believe the quote was, I've never seen a poor person create a job.
Oh, yes.
And there was other things from that Medical College interview that I'm still parsing.
There's been a lot of Ron Johnson content to consume this week.
But I will say that...
You know, when he talks about these different things, there is like a talk radio brain, a conservative talk radio brain that always seeps through with what he says.
And he's like, oh, I'm not trying to cut Medicaid.
I'm trying to fix Medicaid.
I'm not trying to, you know, cut Obamacare.
I'm trying to fix Obamacare.
The result is the
same
thing.
The result is that you are going to cut Medicaid and it is going to impact people and lives are going to be
damaged.
Well, and the other thing, the other way that they're phrasing it now is we're going to save Medicaid.
We are saving Medicaid for people who truly deserve it.
But the other thing that makes me crazy.
Half of the people on Medicaid in Wisconsin are children.
I know.
And that's what makes me crazy is they come out with this claim that we know intuitively that people
are cheating the system.
That's not proof.
Knowing something intuitively is great, then back it up with proof.
That goes back to Elon finding fraud and abuse.
Well, fraud is a crime.
If you have found all these instances of fraud, why are people not being held accountable and they're not showing up in court for this?
These are crimes that should be charged.
And to the extent that there is fraud, like there's been some terrific reporting from Mary Spakouza at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel about people who are committing Medicaid fraud in Milwaukee.
And I would encourage people to read those reports.
But the broad based type of fraud that he's suggesting that is like the cause of trillions and trillions of dollars and we could cut the federal budget by trillions of dollars.
Like there was so much effusive praise that Ron Johnson levied
towards Elon Musk and the Doge effort, which if you read anything about what it's actually done, it hasn't actually touched anything.
It hasn't codified any of the cuts that Republicans have wanted to do.
It's been a failed effort, and Ron Johnson is just out there saying he wants more Doge, basically.
More Doge,
more of this.
And you have Ted Cruz begging and pleading, people just be nice to Elon for all.
He didn't take a dime from the government, really.
He hasn't taken a dime from the government
since his time in the government.
That is laughable.
It is
just, it is the fact that people who refuse to be informed or don't have time to be as engrossed in the news as we are, they hear things and like, ah, that sounds like a good guy.
And when we try to say no, these are lies, people are like, well, how do you know their lies?
It's just, it's screaming into a vacuum sometimes.
And it's so frustrating because like just before.
They've made up reports for the Maha thing, and she's like, it's formatting, don't worry.
What?
Nothing to see here formatting mistakes.
Not that the studies didn't actually exist.
It's
insane.
But at the end of the day, I think we really need to be paying attention to all of these things that Ron Johnson is saying,
because I
think what he is among a list of like four or five senators who could realistically kill this bill.
And if he doesn't get what he wants out of this, and I don't really understand what he wants, like they'll ask him these questions and it's just like, oh, I need to fix Medicaid and blah, blah, blah.
So he has no specifics.
No
specifics, and I think it just comes down to he wants to cut government.
And this is the same thing that Republicans do over and over again.
It's the same thing that Doge was.
It's the same thing that the Tea Party was.
You go back through all of these things.
It is talking about efficiency and reining in government, but the real goal at the end of the day is cutting tax cuts for the wealth.
is cutting taxes for the wealthy.
Over and over again.
It is
this Trojan horse of efficiency and streamlining and cutting government to benefit
the wealthy.
And punish
the poor.
Dan Schaffer is here from the Reconpopulation Area.
He is also Civic Media's political editor.
When we return...
794.
What should happen to that stretch of roadway?
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In the time we have left before the 1030 News, Dan, let's talk a little bit about 794.
There's an article today in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel about the future of 794.
Yeah,
there was a public update meeting.
big, exciting public update meeting.
There's a lot of folks who are who are interested in this.
Absolutely.
This is a big project.
This is a big conversation about what's happening in downtown Milwaukee.
So I'll quickly just zoom out and talk about what exactly this little stretch of highway is.
Thank you.
Okay, I'm doing this just for mostly for Greg.
So
The part of 794 that is part of this conversation is between the market interchange and the lakefront.
So the
connection
from the
market interchange to the home bridge, essentially.
So it is not the stretch of 794 from the home bridge
south
into Milwaukee County.
It doesn't touch the home bridge at all.
It is the connections between the home bridge and...
the market had interchanged.
And so a few years ago, the Wisconsin Department of Transportation identified that this stretch of freeway needed to be rebuilt in some capacity.
And they said rebuilding it in the current footprint it is in the exact same configuration that it is would cost $300 million.
Wow.
So this project is happening one way or another.
They're going to do
something with this.
Something needs to happen with this stretch of freeway.
The conversation is, should we do something very different, slightly different, or exactly the same?
And so the options that the Wisconsin Department of Transportation presented at this meeting last night included four options.
One is essentially it was a rebuild in kind.
The exact same configuration would be about $300 million.
Those costs have probably gone up
in the four years
or so since they initially put that forward.
Another one would be kind of a slimmed down version of it.
maybe fewer on and off ramps in between.
I know there's a number now like at Jackson and Van Buren and things like
that
at St.
Paul that you kind of go through in that stretch of freeway between the market interchange and the home bridge.
And the other option would be to tear that section of highway down so that the home bridge instead of connecting through, it would essentially end at downtown.
794 would end at the where the home bridge ends.
on the Milwaukee Lakefront instead of connecting all the way through.
The idea here is that if you are driving through the market interchange, you're going to use 43 instead
for the majority of the time.
To go south,
to connect through the market interchange.
And by removing this stretch of freeway, you open up some of the most valuable land for development in the state of Wisconsin.
You're so close to the lake.
You're so close to the lake.
You're right between, you know, kind of the downtown central business district and the Third Ward.
Milwaukee has a housing and affordability crisis that is getting worse and worse.
You'd be able to develop that part of land to bring more housing to people, to bring more options for, you know, just affordable housing, all sorts of different types of things, transit connections, walkability connections, all of that.
And so I have, you know, long advocated for saying that, yes, we should tear down this little structure freeway to open up the development.
for downtown because I just don't think the best use of that type of real estate is for a freeway to be blasting through downtown.
I think it is, you know, obviously we need freeways, we need interstates, but they should be going to cities, not through cities.
I don't disagree with that.
And my big thing is whenever I hear people talk about and I heard, and you know, this whenever people talk about getting rid of something in favor of affordable housing or more housing, especially down in that area,
I'm skeptical because I see very, very expensive land.
That's going to be developed into high-rise apartments,
expensive apartments.
Or if someone can put a house down there, this is, I don't see this.
I'm not saying I don't want this to happen,
but
what I'm saying is I do not see in any scenario where they're going to put a stitch of housing where regular folks can afford to live.
It's going to be, hey, do you need a third apartment, Chicagoans?
Come to Milwaukee.
We've got more coming.
So like, I wish there was a, I wish there was a commitment if this was the case, a commitment to making good affordable housing in this section.
I agree.
And, and I think that should be part of the plan, but it also, it's just like, it's just a supply and demand thing
too.
We just need more new housing in Milwaukee.
There's a lot of housing in Milwaukee.
There's a lot of people who are not going to live in a 120 year old house on the west side of Milwaukee,
like I
do.
Like some people want something a little bit newer.
They don't
have to deal with the problems of that.
But now,
Zooming out again, here's the rub with this 794 debate.
And we've already been having it for several years.
The plan that was put forth in these boards that were at this meeting last night said that right now 2025 is where we're exploring the alternatives.
2027 is when the environmental review would be done and 2030 is when the final design and construction is going to happen.
This is the problem with this and so many other
government progress.
We
can't get anything done.
So we've already should have made a decision on 794 by now.
I wrote a long piece on this two years ago.
Why are we still debating this?
Make a decision and go forward.
We can't debate this for another five years.
Well, it's going to be
2035 before anything gets done.
Dan Schaffer is here from the Reconpopulation area.
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Many people are saying many people are saying some people are saying there could be new matinee on air merch We're very excited that's the rumor.
Yeah, anyway
We'll let you know if and when that actually happens.
But text in the word swing, S-W-I-N-G.
Dan Schaefer is here.
He's Civic Media's political editor and also the founder of the multi-multi-award-winning Recon Population Area.
And gracious enough to stick around for our silly segment that we call Audio Sorbet.
Where we try to lighten things up a little bit.
Taking a breath.
Yeah, right?
Yeah.
It's a good cleanser for the brain.
Yeah, even just hearing those, hearing those little notes
that
you play here.
Makes
you feel a little
bit better.
You can just wash off the rest of the nonsense.
I'm telling you right
now, I'm gonna get audio sorbet robes.
I just want to like just, just wonderful.
Just lounge around it.
Just like loungewear, robes,
you
know.
Slippers, just
say.
I
love that.
So we're taking your calls and your texts and your voice notes if you want to do that.
Yes,
please send the voice notes.
And where you find your little bits of joy?
Where are you finding your joy these days?
And we're just talking about little things, not great big momentous things like Mary from Toast texted in.
real early in the show.
Mary says, my joy every day, our heartwarming animal and wildlife videos on what used to be Twitter.
It's actually addicting, so I have to contain it.
Mary from Tosa.
Mary, check out We Rate Dogs.
We rate dogs all one word.
They have the top five dogs of the week.
Greg and I watch it before the show every Friday.
It's fantastic.
And it just, it makes you happy.
It's one of those little things for a brief moment in time.
You can forget other stuff and just feel a little happy.
Yeah, absolutely.
So Dan, you are here today.
I
am here today.
Where are you finding your?
Joy, where do you find your nuggets of joy?
Well, you know, I'm a I'm a girl dad So my my joy comes from my daughters and so often and just got to spend a few extra some extra time with them over the long weekend We went to go visit my sister who lives in New Mexico.
Oh
nice
And so, you know, we had a we had a great time there and my daughter's just like my my two daughters They're very different and so that brings me different kinds of joy.
My
oldest daughter is is you know, very smart and kind of a
and she just wants to learn everything very curious.
And my youngest daughter is just like a tornado of nonsense all of the time.
I joked with you, Jane, that she's just like a Chris Farley personality in a four-year-old girl who likes to wear sparkly clothes.
That is so
fun,
Jen.
She has a natural comedic delivery on things.
So I find my joy from my girls most of the time,
yes.
had your Reconpopulation Area Appreciation event a couple weeks ago.
You were there and your wife and your children were there.
And when I saw a little girl running around in a sparkly jacket, I go, well, that's Dan's daughter right
here.
I
knew immediately who that was.
And I was
like, I love when I see little kids who are unencumbered by the world.
Like some kids can grow up like real, like you think you're all afraid to, to,
I
grew up.
I grew up afraid to break rules.
I grew up, I wouldn't want to get in trouble.
So I didn't do that.
So when I see kids who are running around in sparkly shirts and being themselves and having fun, I'm like, good, yes, we need that child to turn into a great adult and make other people around her awesome.
No pressure.
Absolutely.
No pressure.
Yeah, no
pressure.
And that's nothing against your other child either, because I love the, I love the, I love the, the,
the.
They really balance
each other out.
There's a
yin and yang thing.
It's, it's a lot of fun.
Nice comment on the, on the text line.
Chris Alfheim from Appleton listening in Oshkosh and WISS.
I love Dan Schaefer.
I'm just saying.
Dan
Schaeffer brings joy.
Thank you, State Senator Alpha.
We love Dan Schaeffer, too.
One of the things we wanted to share that is pretty darn joyful was the winner last night of the Scripps National Spelling Bee Contest.
100th.
100th.
Oh, wow.
Spelling Bee Contest.
We have a clip from the winner and the winning word.
Calvin, if you want to play that,
please.
Let's all of us take a deep breath.
Yes.
This is the moderator.
I did not help at all.
Well, a certain pacing would help to follow.
Yeah.
OK.
What a killjoy.
So
energetic.
Your word is A. Claire C. Small.
A. Claire C. Small.
E. C. L. A.
I, R, C, I, S, S, E, M, E, N, T. That is correct.
Drops to the
floor.
He literally drops to the floor.
And
there was no use it in a sentence.
There was no origin of the word.
It was he got his eyes lit up.
He knew the word.
He knew the spell.
And when he hits that E going into the M, E, N, T, he just can't, he's got to keep it together and he wins.
And like, he just, he just, I don't know, like that did not help at all.
I've been studying for this thing all year and he just, I love
how the moderator
just can't
compute.
He just crushed it.
I loved it.
It was fantastic.
He actually won $52,500 for that.
That's
a
very
specific amount of money.
But he was interviewed afterwards and asked what he would do with that.
And he said, look, he said, I'm a pretty lucky kid.
I would like to give this money to some charities for kids who aren't as lucky as me.
Oh my God.
I know.
I know, right?
Greg's turning into
a puddle here in the
studio.
Yeah, we're gonna include that.
We'll include that clip in our show notes.
Already done.
Oh, so you can take a look at that and see his big win.
Oh my god.
These kids are so impressive.
I like to think that I'm a word snob.
I have never heard of the word that he spelled.
I didn't even know that was a thing.
I know the word eclair amassanant.
It's a very common word amongst the people at the club.
We say, excuse me, I'd like another eclair amassanant.
That's
French.
And that's also
how you say
it.
Exactly.
It's French
for a big pile of eclairs.
Get on board, get the robe, get the slippers.
We're in audio survey
right now.
855-752-4842.
Where are you finding your little bits of joy these days?
It's really important that we find those moments.
John from Oshkosh, listening on WISS, same Dan.
I have two girls and they sound similar to how you describe yours.
as much as they give me gray hair, seeing them learn and experience life brings me joy all the time.
That's awesome.
That is awesome.
I've got a few extra gray beard
hairs after
spitting and dragging my daughters around the airport.
They're little yet, just wait.
You got more gray coming.
Adorable,
Dan.
Adorable.
Liz from Sockville says, playing with our cats while listening to my very talented husband play guitar.
Nice.
Jane, where do you find your joy?
I recently...
You know, I spend time in the garden.
Yes, which I have a love-hate relationship with my garden because now I'm Very excited about it and everything is growing and all my flower pots are full and I check on them every day and then by the end of August It's like get your moisture out of the air.
You're on your own.
Yeah, I've raised in you enough be a little bit independent.
Okay, but I was out the other day and we have a new hummingbird Yeah, you're mentioning that
and you were excited.
I'm very excited about this
This is a different hummingbird than the one we had last year.
I can tell because he's much smaller and he sits on the feeder.
He actually perches on the feeder.
What is the
other one?
So you do
a specific hummingbird feeder and that's how you.
Well, you have to have feeders for hummingbirds.
They will come to flowers, but if you really want to attract them, get up.
That makes me so and I name him.
What's his name?
His name is Whistler.
Whizzler
love
it
whizzler the hummingbird
whizzler whizzler who's a listener is gonna be like thank you Jane Thank You Jane
it makes me happy and so I will sit out in the backyard And I'll read and he'll come around and I always try and catch pictures of him which is impossible because they move too fast But this it makes me really happy so if I'm having a crappy day Or I'm grouchy or whatever I go outside and I sit in the yard for half an hour and take a breath
I mean, that's paramount in life.
It's just finding those little nuggets of joy.
And so we want to know from everyone listening and watching on the live stream, what brings you joy?
Leave a comment on the live stream.
You can text us.
You can call us.
You can leave a voice note through the civic media.
All kinds of options.
But yeah, we want to know what brings you joy.
Calvin, what is bringing you joy?
Other
than obviously producing for this program.
Yeah, other than hanging out with us five days away.
My god.
Listening to Jane and Greg for 10 hours a
week.
Our voices are dulcet
and in hypnotic.
I'm not sure that I have one right off this top of my head right this moment.
You know, I've been reading comic books a lot lately.
I guess that.
There you go.
Hey, that's all right.
And the good thing about this is you don't have to qualify this.
You don't have to explain it.
It's just what brings you joy.
What brings you that little bit of joy.
There's no judgment.
It can be anything.
I'll have it.
I have another one for you.
Okay.
Uh, Greg, I know you, you're, of course, love comedy, love, love comedy, laughing tap, all of that.
Uh, have you been watching John Mulaney's show on Netflix at all?
I have been watching it.
I will say that it's not hitting me.
I feel like the way I wanted to hit me.
Cause
I love
John Mulaney.
I
really do.
But there, I guess I watched the first two episodes and it still feels kind of janky.
And I wanted to be, I wanted to be a show rather than just like eight episodes, but I love.
I love his monologues because he is definitely designed to be a late night host.
Yeah, although I never want him to be one because I don't want to be limited by that by that medium.
But I really love he is he is a guy who is a little bit younger than me, who was born to be in the 50s.
Like he's meant to be like a Las Vegas comic opening up for Sammy
Davis
Jr.
He's got that vibe about him.
That's just
very old school knows more about musicals than any 10 actors.
I know it's awesome.
We're
going to take a call here quick.
Ollie from the North Woods is on the line.
Ollie, we're talking about where you find your little bits of joy.
What did you want to share with us?
Well, my little bit of joy is because health issues, I'm pretty much homebound and finding the civics media radio station on my old fashioned radio and being able to call in.
gives me great joy every day.
Oh,
you are so
sweet.
Thank you so much.
We really, really appreciate that.
If you would like to join us and share your little bit of joy, 855-752-4842, there is no wrong answer.
I think I think I interrupted you though.
You said like what is the joy you find from that show?
Is it the
show
itself?
The show itself, I think the show itself they had it's the season finale this week where John Mulaney famously as a bit that he was talking about the whole season basically was going to fight three 14 year old boys live on TV.
He's gonna lose.
He
lost.
He did
lose.
He lost.
And it was just like so funny and like
Mulaney was recently on Conan O'Brien's Mark Twain Prize and talking about how he is Conan's biggest fan and all of that.
And he was on Conan's podcast recently and talking about how comedy doesn't always need to be about something.
It can just be silly.
And
that's what that show is.
And that's what's bringing me joy in watching the John Mulaney Netflix live show is that it doesn't have to be about anything.
It just can be really dumb and funny.
Subscribe to the Rika population area.
It is fantastic and a multi award winner, Dan Schaefer.
Thank you so very much.
Thanks.
for having me.
We will see you next week.
Stay with us.
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No,
it's not.
You're wrong.
It is June.
Jane, you're wrong.
Coming up on Monday on the first Monday of every month, we try to have we try to go beyond the cheese.
Darn
right with a business outside of the dairy industry on Monday.
We are set to talk to McLaughlin and Hayes I love these I love this store so much.
It's on knick-knack in Milwaukee and they make hats It's a yes a haberdasher and a milliner.
Yes, so they make hats for men and women bespoke hats for men and women.
It's they're fantastic
The gentleman who's the part owner used to be a client or he is client at the barber shop I used to work at and he'd always have the finest hats and I and I've watched videos on how they make these
long process
involved and artistic and
Good Lord,
my goodness.
So join us Monday for Beyond the Cheese in hour number two.
Also on Monday, Rick Reed is the economics professor that we have spoken to before.
We are going to talk about America's credit downgrade and what that means for all of us as Americans.
Right now though, Calvin, it is getting late 1054.
That means it's time for
this shouldn't be a thing.
If you ever have a thing you think should not be, send it into Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us.
This from the BBC, Francesca Gillette.
With the byline, the headline reads, Man in Norway Wakes to Find Huge Containership in Garden.
Oh, there's a video that goes along with this that will be in the show notes.
You need to see this.
Just the picture
alone.
A man in Norway woke up to find a huge container ship had run aground and crashed into his front garden.
The 443-foot ship missed Johann Helberg's house by just a couple of feet.
Just, just missed it.
Mr. Helberg was alerted to the commotion by his panicked neighbor who had been watching the ship as it was heading straight for shore.
The doorbell rang at a time of day when I don't like to open it.
I went to the window and was quite astonished to see a big ship.
I had to bend my neck to see the top of it.
It was so unreal.
Five meters further south,
And it would have crashed into his bedroom.
This is a huge container ship.
Yep.
One of those big monsters.
It is.
It is.
Yeah, this would have done serious.
This would have done irreparable damage and caused injury and death.
The picture alone.
And what's his name again?
His name is.
I don't really think it gets much more Norwegian
than that.
It's going to have a
little lightning bolt through the O's there.
And I mean,
Johan Holberg.
The Cypriot flagged cargo ship had 16 people on board.
They were traveling southwest.
When it went off course, no one was hurt in the incident, unknown what caused the crash.
Norwegian police are investigating
Johann Hilberg says it's a very bulky new neighbor, but it will soon go away.
The head of the company that owns this ship says at present time we do not know what caused the incident.
We are awaiting the conclusion of an ongoing investigation.
The ship had previously run aground in 2023, but got free under its own power.
It's not going anywhere.
That looks like the Milwaukee boat now.
I mean, honestly, Jane, I think by laws of property and whatnot, the boat belongs to Johan.
Helberg.
It's his now.
It's his now.
Everything on there is his.
Leave it there.
Leave the keys.
It's Johan's now.
He can turn it into a nice hotel.
A great hotel.
What a conversation starter.
But you need to look at the video and see the picture.
Again, he's got this.
It looks like a little two bedroom house.
with this Gigundo ship just ran and how he didn't hear this.
Well, he had things to do.
He's probably listening to like
I think it happened in the middle of the night.
But still, you would think you would hear this big ship coming five feet within your bedroom.
I don't know.
But take a look at it.
You can always find the show notes at civicmedia.us.
Go to the top, click on shows and go to Matt Nair on air.
Greg does a great, a great, great job, including.
Articles that we've talked about and other things that we've talked about throughout the show.
So check that out today.
Calvin that wraps up today's episode of
This shouldn't be a thing.
As we said, we have a busy Monday show coming up for you.
If you ever have a suggestion, by the way, for a beyond the cheese guest, if you know someone who has a business outside of the dairy industry that you think would be great for us to highlight, please let us know.
You can always contact us at janesaysatcivicmedia.us.
Thank you, Greg and Calvin and all of our engineers because without you, nothing works.
And thank you most of all for calling and for
and for listening, it really means the world.
I hope you find some joy over the weekend, even if it's just a teensy little bit.
And you have the chance to share it.
Keep it here.
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