Farmers And Mental Health (Hour 2)

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And hour number two, she's the fabulous farm babe.

It's been way too long since we had Pam Yankee on the show.

Among many other things, we're going to talk about mental health.

Me is mental health awareness month.

And we were going to talk about mental health and farmers.

And we've talked about this a lot of times

before

with Pam and what

Services are available to farmers.

Again, can be very stoic people.

Yeah, don't want to talk about things out loud.

I can handle this myself.

I got things to do.

I got things to do.

Yeah, exactly.

So the fabulous farm babe Pam Yankee joining us after 10 o'clock at 1035.

There's a great article about Wisconsin State Parks.

celebrating 125 years.

So we're going to love on our state parks a little bit and find out which is your favorite state park

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And then we're going to share the best of the worst reviews of Wisconsin state parks.

I may or may not adopt voices.

Oh, it's going to be so worth it.

That's our audio survey segment at 1035.

And then we'll wrap up the show as we always do with this.

Shouldn't be a thing.

Calvin found this one.

It's, uh, I'm going to mule it over.

Let's mule it over.

That's coming up around 1051.

So stick around for that.

Right now, though, I did want to mention over the weekend, remember Donald Trump?

No, who?

When he was running for president talking about.

the most beautiful word in the world, tariffs.

So many beautiful things, but that's among the most beautiful things, our tariffs, because other countries have to pay for them.

Yeah, that's not actually how tariffs work.

And now we have the president's own words, essentially confirming this.

This is from CNBC.

Published over the weekend, Trump tells Walmart to eat the tariffs.

After the retailer warned it would be raising its prices.

We mentioned this on Friday.

Jane, we've been talking about tariffs and what they mean for months now, but yeah, this one now is finally, oh, not only has he come to the realization that he was wrong, he's now getting in the faces of businesses to say,

Suck it up and deal with

it.

Yeah.

Well, again, we told you Friday that Walmart had mentioned that they were gonna start raising prices because of the tariffs and Instead of saying but China pays the tariffs Trump is now saying Walmart you should eat it So you don't have to pass on these the cost to customers

To be fair they could probably eat the tariffs

They probably could.

Of course they could.

They would cut into their tens of billions of dollars they make a year, but also they shouldn't have to.

They love private business, Jane.

They're all about business.

And one thing they hate, Jane, is when government gets in the way of private business.

Nanny state, nanny state.

Enterprise and the market.

Is this the GOP?

Is this the Republican party?

Because it seems like just angry grandpa's yelling at people.

Also, over the weekend, Scott Bassent.

You're a favorite person.

He is one of my favorite people in the Trump administration.

He was on MSNBC over the weekend saying, quote, I was on the phone with Doug McMillan, the CEO of Walmart yesterday, and Walmart is in fact going to eat some of the tariffs, unquote.

Contrast that, which happened over the weekend, to this morning, from the White House press office, Carolyn

Levitt,

quote, from this morning, the reality is, as the president has always maintained, the Chinese producers will be absorbing the cost of these tariffs, unquote.

That's a lie.

No, no, no, actually, they will absorb the cost.

They'll pay for the cost.

And then

they'll pass that

on.

Exactly.

There's another half of that equation she's not being upfront about, but it's fine.

It's not like this hasn't been talked about at Nazium for months now.

And also, I think, what's his name?

Basant?

Basant.

I think he's lying.

There's no way Walmart said,

okay.

Well, when we're talking about 30% tariff and he says some Walmart will eat some of the tariffs.

There's a lot of wiggle room there in that some tariff is 30% and Walmart says, yeah, we'll eat 3% of it.

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

All they need is that to claim victory this weekend.

There's a gentleman who I am friends with on Facebook who posted a laundry list of accomplishments of the Trump administration of the past seven days.

Oh, I'm going to get into them.

Okay.

Maybe we can look at that later, but I will say this.

Those statements, all of them were a one Google search to find out the truth.

It's always about posting the victories, never the nuance, never the detail.

We made a deal with China.

You did not.

You put it all on hold for 90 days, and then we're going to have to do this all.

It's kind of like, you know,

a continuing resolution in 90 days, we have to come back

and revisit it around again.

So yeah, I want to know the exact number Walmart says they're willing to.

And I would bet you money that they will never say how much, what of that 30% they're going to suck up.

If it goes above 3% Jane, I will actually be impressed.

I would agree with you.

Something else that happened over the weekend, the Wisconsin GOP convention was held.

A couple interesting things to

take away

from this.

Again, we had mentioned, if you were watching the end of Up North with a Civic Media Mornings with Pat Crichtlow.

Mornings with Pat Crichtlow.

That too.

Dr. Liarley filling in for him.

Tim Michaels was reportedly

at the GOP convention in Wisconsin over the weekend.

He must be so bored.

Right?

Nothing else to do.

Don't you have a yacht somewhere you want to go visit?

Don't you have a business to

run?

There's

buildings all over the state with your name on it.

I think his brothers do that.

But yes, not a big surprise.

The Wisconsin Republican Convention delegates back the resolution to enforce the strict 1849 abortion ban.

So they all voted in, uh, they approved a party resolution calling for Wisconsin to enforce the 1849 abortion ban.

This vote essentially carries no authority, but it shows essentially that the party is pretty much unified behind that, which essentially offers no help for women who are pregnant who might have problems with the pregnancy unless the mother is going to die.

Another thing that Dr. Lylee had a gentleman named Alan Tipple, who's one of the organizers for a thing called Men for Choice.

Men for the number four choice.

And I think one of the things we need to also now say in our language is that there's no help for women who are pregnant.

There's no help for family going through it.

There's no help for, like we need to make it, we need to make this inclusive.

We need to make sure that people understand this is, it is.

It affects the woman, it affects the person who's pregnant.

But the entire family.

The entire family.

Absolutely.

It affects our communities, and that's made of all different kinds of people.

So that's something that I keep on telling myself.

It's not just the person.

No, you're right.

So yeah, it's shocking.

1849, let's go back to the middle of the 19th.

The good old days.

It was the good old days,

Greg.

Jane, when you were pregnant, pretty much property.

You don't have to worry about anything.

It was

so good back then.

Let's go back to the 1850s.

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Cindy from Appleton on the line, good morning.

Cindy, thanks for joining us.

Did you go to the GOP convention?

I'm kidding.

Oh,

God, I love that.

Oh, my God.

I wouldn't be able to eat for a month if I did that.

Of course, I could lose a few pounds.

But anyway, it takes two to make a baby.

So this affects men just as much as it affects women.

Yes.

I really honestly don't think the abortion issue is such a big issue anymore, because it obviously did not affect the last election, so...

You don't think it's important?

I don't think... I thought Dr. Leirely would have this hands down because of that issue, and it didn't seem to even phase anything, so I just don't think women care about their rights anymore, to be perfectly honest with you.

That's interesting, Cindy.

I appreciate your perspective.

I'm not certain that I agree with that, but I, you know,

she, Donald Trump got reelected.

I think I understand.

I absolutely understand the sentiment of it that, you know, my, my friends who are female, when things like this happen, the constant line is always they're voting against their interest.

They always seem to vote against their interest.

Now I'm not, that is what they say.

I'm not making that claim cause, but it, I understand where Cindy is coming from when a wide variety of people say,

We want this man and this party who is going to systematically pick away at our rights and our freedoms, freedom, freedom, that, yeah, they're voting, they're voting for, they're voting out of their interest, or against their, against their interest.

And it doesn't, and it does, and it does not make sense.

I mean, we thought that all these kids lined up, and this is our, this is on us.

We thought all these kids lined up in colleges across the country, ready to vote early, like, oh,

They're not going to vote for him.

They did

because I've said it before and I'm going to keep saying it until it's not true.

Donald Trump, the brand is cool.

I don't get it, but it is.

One other little takeaway before we go to the break here.

Derek Van Horton has an interesting idea.

about how we run our elections in Wisconsin, especially for ones I don't know that like Republicans lose.

We have a clip from Derek Van Orden from over the weekend at the Wisconsin GOP convention.

Calvin, can you hit that clip, please?

What do you think went wrong or what goes wrong in spring elections here in Wisconsin?

Republicans don't

vote, period.

We just don't vote.

In spring elections.

How do you change that?

I don't think we should have a spring

election.

I think we need to, these guys in the state house, I think they should get rid of that and fold it into a midterm or a four year cycle.

Yeah, we don't win in spring elections because our constituents don't vote.

So let's not have that election anymore.

That'll fix that

problem.

Jane, that's a real folksy way of saying, let's, uh, suppress votes.

Let's suppress.

Let's into, that's just, I.

You gotta kind of give him credit for saying it out loud.

Jane, I'll give him credit for not yelling at the reporter.

I mean, it just seems like progress, but yeah, just I think we need to get rid of it.

Oh

Huh?

Yeah, our constituents don't vote in spring elections So rather than I know maybe improving our messaging or improving our platform to encourage people to get out and vote No, we're not going to do any of that We just want to stop that election because that'll take care of this problem

Well, Jane, it's it's apparently that Republicans don't vote they never vote which is wrong They do vote they just lose maybe in those elections, but also

If they don't vote, then what's the point, Jane?

If they're not coming out, then we don't need to do this at all.

They're the ones that are important.

It's not those, you know, Marxists, feminists, caravan-riding, communists who are coming in to, you know, vote in the dozens in the spring.

Let's just not have that election.

Whomever's gonna run against Derevan Orton next year should take that quote and make it the centerpiece to me.

closing down elections, please.

There are so many quotes that you could use to run on, seriously.

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Hour number two, the fabulous Farm Babe at Pam Yankee will be here, and we're going to be talking about Wisconsin Farmers and Mental Health May is Mental Health Awareness Month.

Among many other things with Pam Yankee, so I hope you can stick around for that.

Also, a reminder to join Todd Alba, our friend and colleague from two to four today.

He is going to have State Senator Calderoy's on.

They're going to have an update

on the budget negotiations among the joint finance committee.

That should be an interesting discussion.

Seems like there are cross purposes.

There are some different...

different priorities, shall we say.

I like the way you said that

so

diplomatically.

Right?

I'm trying.

I'm

trying.

It's a very big appeal to the people.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So that's all coming up a little bit later on.

Todd, all by today.

From 2 to 4 p.m., I did want to mention this, though.

Of course, we had tornadoes in Wisconsin last week that hit Dodge County pretty hard.

Now we have this from the Associated Press, residents digging out from tornado damage.

after storms killed 28 in Kentucky, Missouri, and Virginia.

And if you look at, again, tornadoes, they're just so astonishingly destructive.

It's just

horrifying.

You look at some of these pictures.

It's just a nightmare for these

folks.

It's not to be this, I'm not poking light this cause I've heard people, I've actually heard comedians make jokes about this, but tornadoes, like if you, if you're in the middle of a hurricane, we're all in this together.

Like it's, but tornadoes can like, it can literally destroy one house and being on its way.

It is one of the most unpredictable, most destructive things around.

And Brittany Merleau was saying this morning that our, our usual is about 23 a year here in the state.

In Wisconsin.

Last year was 45.

And Tornado Alley, that swath of the country is slowly enveloping Wisconsin.

It's moving north.

Moving north, yes.

Well, again, if you want to help out these folks.

You can always make a donation to the Red Cross.

It's probably one of the best ways to do it.

I'm always very twitchy about things that show up on social media.

Make a donation here,

make a

donation here.

You want to really make sure you vet those things to make sure it's not a scammer.

But I know if you get to the Red Cross, that's another good, that's one good way to do it.

Donating blood is always a

good way to do it.

There is always a need for blood donors, but we certainly send our thoughts and prayers to the folks.

in in these affected states.

And I don't know whether or not they're going to be making disaster declarations and whether or not there's going to be any help from FEMA.

Because again, the head of FEMA just got fired.

The head of FEMA was testifying before Congress and essentially said getting rid of FEMA and expecting states to pick it up is a really bad idea.

And the next day he got fired.

And we've been seeing in the past month or so, I mean, the president's been in the office for four months, four months, four months now.

We've seen

traditional deep red state saying, Hey, we need help.

And being told, no, sorry, maybe you can get the money somewhere else.

You better figure it out.

Yeah.

I mean, these are who voted for this administration.

And that's the only, I dare I say,

comforting notion that it's going to be, it's going to be hard for all of us versus like, you know, Arkansas gets a lot of money, but California, you got to do this.

They're just going to turn their back on everyone.

Well, that remains to be seen.

I still think that red state governors might have a little bit more of an in and get a little bit, a little bit more of a better response.

We'll see what happens with Kentucky because Andy Beshear, the governor of Kentucky is a Democrat.

Yes, he is.

One other thing we wanted to mention before we go to the bottom of the hour news.

And I'm imagining that you heard about this over the weekend, but former president Biden has been diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer.

Prostate cancer is not unusual for men as they get older.

This is my understanding anyway.

We can clarify this a little bit more with Dr. Lyrely when she joins us.

But Biden was evaluated after a small nodule was found that necessitated

Further evaluation.

He said in the tweet this morning, cancer touches us all.

Like so many of you, Jill and I have learned that we are strongest in the broken places.

Thank you for lifting us up with love and support.

And we'll talk about this with Dr. Liarley as well as we usually do, but this is a, this is a, it should be a wake up call for especially men.

Go to the doctor, you guys.

And it's, and, and a lot of time, I don't say a lot of times, but.

It's not just a matter of I'm too tough or I'm too like I don't want to go to the doctor Sometimes it is scared a lot of people are scared the doctors.

It's like I don't want to go because I don't want to know I don't want to know also I might not be able to pay But also a lot of times a lot of men and I've known many who've done this if we'll say like I'll do it later I got I got stuff to do I gotta I gotta take the kids to the thing and I got to go to the thing to do the thing and I got this thing and work There's always work Jane sure and then before you know it It's now a it's a reactive state instead of a proactive state so

Go to the GP get that physical if you're over a certain age get that colonoscopy get that get that check up get your heart checked please get your hearts checked and Don't make excuses.

I know it's tough and I know it can be expensive, but Preventive is always better preventive is

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Dr. Kristen Lyrely is here.

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back glad to have you here.

I know you filled in for pet quite low this morning He will be back tomorrow, but you had a little buck in the dock earlier this morning and we started off the show talking about this dr. Lyrely the GOP convention was over the weekend and they did a big embrace of course of wisconsin's 1849 a bars in law which essentially

does not allow treatment for women unless they are going to die.

Now, we had a caller who said, and I don't know that Cindy's wrong, is this really a big important issue anymore?

Because you were defeated by Tony Weed.

Donald Trump was re-elected.

We spent a lot of time talking about women's reproductive health and what this could mean under a second Trump administration.

And he got resoundingly into office.

So is this even something that registers with voters anymore?

I think it does, especially in this situation.

This law is very, very bad.

Let's remember the only legal abortion would be in the case of the life of the mother being in danger, but that's not well-defined.

So how do you know what line have they crossed?

Is there some sensor that goes on?

No.

So that makes it really hard for us to provide

Any health care for pregnant women in this state it drives doctors out of the state it already has it makes it hard for patients to ask questions and frankly it makes it really scary for people to even consider Getting pregnant

in

this state, and I know we've got listeners who have had these feelings because I've had these conversations with folks so this is this just

reflects how out of step the GOP in Wisconsin is with the needs of the actual people.

And we're going to see that in the midterm.

Well, and I think it's really important that you point it out.

And I said this from the very beginning when it got leaked that Roe is going to be overturned.

There there's no codification of what how close to dead do you have to be?

If there was something when your blood pressure gets

to this point, then she can have an abortion.

If you have this level of infection, then we are allowed to treat you.

But there's nothing like, there are no, right?

There's no.

Well,

and

it totally depends on exactly what's happening with that individual patient.

I was just at the big national OBGYN weekend, her conference over the weekend, 63,000 OBGYN doctors are represented by this organization.

And I was talking with a colleague of mine in South Dakota and she said that

She had a patient who was bleeding.

They went to their attorney in the hospital, and their attorney would not give them the freedom to take care of this patient.

She bled down to a hemoglobin of three.

A normal hemoglobin is greater than 12.

When your hemoglobin is three, you have a 50% chance of dying, statistically.

Do you really want your doctor to wait until you have a 50-50 chance of dying before they come in to help you?

And that doesn't begin to speak to the potential problems that stem from waiting

for

so long.

What if you end up with a blood clot or permanent heart damage because your heart has been deprived of oxygen because you didn't have enough blood, which carries your oxygen?

So this reflects

Death but also the morbidity that goes along with letting people get that sick so that they're on the

of death.

This is not health care.

This is frank politics.

And Jane, we're seeing this all over Wisconsin.

The GOP does not care about women.

They don't care about extending postpartum Medicaid to make sure that new moms have access to health care.

They don't care about childcare.

They stripped all of the support for childcare out of the budget.

They don't give a damn about women in this state.

But yet.

They're the party if we love women and we love families and we want women to have more families and It's just they are so at cross purposes and I've said this many times before as well They don't look ahead.

They don't look at potential ramifications down the road.

It seems to me Right.

It's just very

transactional.

It is it's

This makes us feel bad.

We think this is wrong, so we're going to outlaw it again without looking forward at potential scenarios, different scenarios.

Every pregnancy is different, not everything.

Works the same.

It doesn't.

It just doesn't.

If

I had a dime for every woman who identified as a Republican and then showed up on my doorstep seeking abortion care saying, whatever, I mean, everybody's got a story and everybody's story is different until you are in that situation.

You don't truly understand.

And I hope that you are never in that situation, but it's like cancer or heart disease.

Any sort of a medical condition that you are facing

All you want at that time is care.

You want to know what all of your options are

so

you can make your own decision for yourself.

You don't want Shaysortwell or Robin Voss deciding for you what kind of care you're going to get.

Well, and it's funny.

I mean, when you say that, it makes me think to myself, well, they're going to do their best to cut cancer care and heart care and all the care too.

I mean, not even just abortion, but that's not the point.

What I want to say is, you know, something to what Cindy, who, who talked about.

people not caring, but I want to tie it in with something you discussed during mornings with Pat Critello is that, and this was with Alan Tripp, Tripple, what was his name, Tripple?

Yes.

From Men for Choice, is that the stunning lack of education on the matter, especially for young people, and I would say it goes for men, for young men and young women on the matters of abortion, access, why, what happens, how it affects you, why, you know,

Women need a medical induced abortion because their child is not viable.

Like they, they're not educated on it.

So I think what happens is because, you know, especially for a young man, 25 and younger, maybe doesn't have a girlfriend.

It doesn't have those prospects.

He just goes, eh, it's not me.

I don't care.

Donald Trump.

There we go.

And some women were like, well, I'm not, I'm never going to be in that situation.

So I don't have to work.

Plus I'm pro life anyways.

I'll just have the baby.

I'll have the baby and we perfect.

So.

I think the educational component is one of the biggest problems, especially with young voters.

But

how do we

rectify that when

we can't talk about

sex?

I mean, we don't want to.

Let's not educate him about sex.

Let's not tell him how not to get pregnant.

That's scary.

Tell him that stuff.

Tell him don't have sex.

That always works.

That always works.

Yeah, complete abstinence only.

Yeah.

That's why the talk with Ellen this morning was so great because this organization men for choice It's MEN the number for choice org They go out and talk to men of all ages But especially young men about why this is important to them women understand because it's our bodies We have periods we have to use birth control We get it because it's very real, but it's so different for men and this just helps men understand what the consequences are and all

of the different aspects, including the economic aspect and how it impacts you, not just now, but for the rest of your life.

It's a beautiful organization that reaches the population that really needs to understand this in a very different way.

I would love to be in a hidden room off of the room where he's talking to young men about this.

I cannot even imagine the question.

I hope he's getting asked questions.

Well, the way that they do it is when people come in, they get trained in how to talk about these things and then they are sent out to talk to their friends.

It's relational organizing.

So they're not just cold calling people and saying, tell me about your abortion story.

That's not going to get you anywhere.

You can use this with any issue when you can talk to your friends, not just about the weather or, you know, let's go get a beer, but it's real issues that are affecting our lives, not just the headlines, but the actual stuff that happens underneath that and how it impacts us in an authentic and very personal way.

I think also something that you with Alan being there that, and we mentioned earlier in the show is that when we talk about these topics,

Of course, we're always going to be talking about the women or the people who are pregnant who this affects directly their bodies, but the the the other of This affects the women the men the families the community though the state on the whole like it's It is up the epicenter as of course the person who is who's pregnant But the ripple effects as you said go out and if and touch everyone so you can't just shrug your shoulders and say well I don't know me because you don't know you don't and and

and those accesses, the access to that healthcare will affect the access you have to your healthcare because if they get rid of this, well then what's to say they won't get rid of this access and this program and this entitlement and this money, then you know we're left with less and less and less.

We already see that.

I mean, look at access to contraception, different types of contraception.

People think this is an abortion.

No, it's not.

It prevents you from ovulating.

There's so much misinformation out there.

Look at TikTok.

There's a whole movement that is intended to prevent women from using contraception by telling them that it's bad for their bodies.

Well, you know, for some women, it's not good for you.

Sure.

For most women, it's way better for you than an unintended pregnancy.

So you need to know who you are, what your risk factors are, what the best alternatives are for you so that you can determine the best path forward.

Education is power.

Education is, I do not understand the idea that let's keep them ignorant because that's going to keep them safe.

That seems cross purposes to me.

Let's keep them ignorant so we can continue to control them.

Yes, is what I hear

right there.

Yep

Yeah, yeah, and the

more we talk about it here and everywhere we can and have a real conversation The more good information gets out there.

The problem is that so much information is spread You know when you're doom scrolling at night before you go to bed in his video after video And then you end up down this rabbit hole because your algorithm is only showing you these yeah That is not healthy and we need to find some sort of a way to break that so people can get

different messages, messages that challenge what they're thinking about and what they believe in.

May I suggest, uh, we rate dogs.

That's a good, that's a great, we're going to doom scroll.

We're going to look at the news.

We're going to do that.

But in that tiny little moment before you go to Beth, give yourself some audio survey.

We rate dogs.

It will light you up and make you smile.

But yeah, I mean,

I agree with you 100%.

We want you uneducated so we can control you and tell you exactly what to do because it's sometimes, and sometimes it's just easier.

Cause once again, it's that idea of, I got things to do.

I don't have time to research and I don't have time to read and listen to this, that and the other thing.

So what do I tell, tell me Jane, what to think?

Tell

me.

We're going to continue our conversation with Dr. Kristin Lierly.

We have a question from Sue on the live stream about a particular case in Georgia that's getting a lot of attention.

Stay with us.

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Welcome back to Matt and air on air.

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On Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter coming up a little bit later on today on the Maggie Dawn Show from four to six o'clock, she's going to talk to the former senior advisor for Rural

development at the USDA, specifically about how GOP tax cuts could force rural hospitals to close, which rural hospitals in Wisconsin already having a tough time.

So that will be coming up a little bit later on today with Maggie Dawn from four to six p.m.

Right now we are joined by Dr. Kristin Lierly.

She has her own show on the network on Saturdays and Sundays, Dr. Lierly.

Saturdays and Sundays at three on WGBW and WISS and of course, the amazing Civic Media app.

Yep.

And how's the show going?

It's so much fun.

Last week, I got to talk with Green Bay Mayor Eric Enric.

We talked about, we just won this big Robert Wood Johnson culture of so many words, culture of health prize in Green Bay, which really underscores

all of the great work we're doing to ensure that people can live holistically and in a healthy

way.

That's great.

It's so

exciting.

Yeah, and then this week we're going to be talking about childcare with folks from Sheboygan, the mayor, a member of the school board, a childcare provider, people who are looking at it from all different angles because we know childcare is under

assault, they're about to lose a whole bunch of funding.

It's already grossly underfunded and unavailable.

This is going to make it so much worse.

So we've got to continue to bang the drum and make sure that people understand childcare is in danger.

And that means our families and our communities are in danger as well.

We had a question on comment on the live stream coming from Sue from Franklin.

What about the woman in Georgia that is brain dead and being kept alive because she is nine weeks pregnant?

This is an actual case.

This from MSNBC.

Georgia Hospital keeps brain dead pregnant woman alive because of the abortion ban.

The 30-year-old was rushed to the hospital in February.

She was declared brain dead at the time she was nine weeks pregnant.

Three months later, we are three months away from this, she's being kept alive with ventilators because of the strict abortion ban.

Her mother says, quote, it's torture for me.

I come here and I see my daughter breathing by the ventilator.

But she's not there.

The woman is currently 21 weeks pregnant.

They don't even know that this is a survivable infant.

Her name is Adriana Smith.

She is a nurse.

She is a mother.

She has a five year old child.

And she is being kept alive on a machine because of politics.

and it is unethical and deplorable that Georgia politicians are doing this to this family.

Can you even imagine what they are going through?

What her family is going through, no.

Yes, and you know, to your point, Jane.

We don't know what the outcome for this fetus is going to be.

She was like nine weeks pregnant very early when this first happened to her.

So she's only 21 weeks now.

She hasn't even hit that point of viability.

This is such a rare situation that we have no idea what the outcome is going to be.

But regardless, can you

even put yourself in the shoes of these family members of that five-year-old child who goes to the hospital and visits his brain-dead mother who is an incubator.

All she is right now is an incubator because of those reprehensible Georgia politicians.

Unconscionable.

That was going to be my next question and forgive the non-educated whatever this is.

is a person who has to be kept alive on a ventilator like this, is their body able to provide the nutrients and the protection, if you will, of a growing fetus?

Or are the ventilators able to keep her alive to do those things?

Or honestly, is she, is that what's going on with her just dooming the baby inside?

I think that is a critically important question because think about a normal healthy pregnancy and all the things you have to do in order to ensure that you are healthy.

You have to stay active.

You have to eat a healthy diet.

You have to treat any chronic medical conditions.

This is a woman who is breathing because of a tube in her throat.

She's not even able to breathe on her own.

Where is her nutrition coming from?

It's coming from an IV.

An IV nutrition is not nearly as good as

the nutrition that we eat.

So her bones are not healthy.

She has to be anticoagulated.

She's getting a bunch of different medications that this child, this fetus, is being exposed to.

So yes, Greg.

This is not a healthy environment for the fetus and we have no idea what the impact will be on the fetus long-term And that's another thing that the family is gonna have to deal with for the rest of this fetus potentially this newborns life

Cassandra from New London is on the line Cassandra will write up against the clock if you can say what you have real quickly, please

Yeah, so I saw the story this weekend and it's absolutely horrifying

I think I've said before, when I've called, I'm a nurse that works with patients who are actually being, they're being managed for organ donation.

So, and some of them are brain dead.

So, to imagine this as a nurse taking care of a patient that's brain dead and is also pregnant at the time is absolutely horrifying.

And the fact that, you know, the medications that they have to keep her on,

in order to even keep her body running but alone like caring for a fetus is it's absolutely horrifying and i can't imagine what her family's going through especially considering like she has a she has a son that's also watching this and this is just absolutely horrible and they from what i've read also they've noticed the fetus might have um

Fluid on the brain.

Yep.

Cassandra, we are up against the clock.

We will continue this discussion.

Dr. Lyle, maybe we can get you on next week, and we will talk about this a little bit more.

You know, I'm always happy to come and talk with you, especially about incredibly important things like this.

We have news coming up next.

And when we return, Pam Yankee will be here.

We're going to talk about mental health and Wisconsin farmers.

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So after the 1030 news, we're gonna love on our state.

Parks, Wisconsin State Parks celebrating 125 years, we want to know about your favorite state park.

And then we're going to share the best worst reviews of Wisconsin State Parks.

They're hilarious.

They're really, they'll make you feel so

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You will, you will die.

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Today it is the, I'm going to mule over this edition.

So stay tuned for that.

Right now, though, it has been far too long since she has been on our airwaves.

Our friend, she is the fabulous farm babe.

She is Pam Yankee.

Good morning, Pam.

How are

you?

Good morning, kiddo.

I'm outstanding.

I'm outstanding in a in a winter coat today, though.

Surprisingly

enough.

It's chilly.

You are you are live from our world saving media's world headquarters overlooking State Street in Madison.

So one of the reasons why we wanted to have you on and we're going to get to lighter things in just a little bit.

But May is Mental Health Awareness Month.

And when we've had you on before, Pam, we've talked about this quite a bit.

when it comes to Wisconsin farmers and mental health.

And we all know our farmers have had a lot of challenges.

It seems like always.

Yeah, I was going to say the last 10 years.

No, it goes even beyond the last 10 years.

It's always been tough for farmers.

And mental health is one of those things that you want to

Nobody wants to talk about.

Nobody wants to talk about that they're having struggles, that they're having a tough time.

What resources are available for Wisconsin Farmers Pym?

Well, and I'll tell you, Jane, it's really particularly strong to me right now after the storms that went through last week in Dodge County and some of those surrounding areas.

The reason being is right now is really crunch time for a lot of our Wisconsin farmers.

They are in the middle of trying to get everything done as far as planting is concerned.

Now put on top of that, the tornadoes or straight line winds, whatever they decided is that came through that area.

I was telling somebody this morning.

what you don't stop and think about when you look at pictures.

Now, social media has been just awash with pictures, showing everything from an impaled cow that got caught with a two by four right on through to just absolutely demolished barns.

And that's tragic, always tragic.

Anytime something like that happens to anybody, farmer or not, is tragic.

But then you stop and think about the prolonged mental stress that that farm's going to be under.

Stop and think how many farms, when you drive out in Wisconsin these days, you see barns, right?

But not all barns have animals in them.

Not all barns have plumbing or water or electricity.

Definitely don't have milking equipment.

So now my barn's gone.

Where am I going to take all these cows so that they can get milk twice a day?

There's stress for number one.

If I happen to have neighbors nearby that have space, now I may have the couple of the barns where I'm milking more than a couple hundred cows.

Family farms that were milking a couple hundred cows.

Now I may have cows at three different locations.

Now, I have to coordinate milk pickup.

I have to coordinate milking those cows, veterinary checks.

And where did the feed go?

When that storm came through, all of my feed likely disappeared with it.

And if you take a look outside of these days, folks, there's not a lot of things growing that we're going to be able to feed our cows and keep them going.

That's why I really think it's important to remind people about the available resources for mental health.

You lean on your neighbors.

Your neighbors are there.

The casserole parade is already unfolded.

But then there's those moments where you have to say, uh-oh, how am I going to pick myself up, dust myself off, and keep going?

And that's why Wisconsin, since the pandemic, I believe really amplified what we've been doing as far as resources for Wisconsin farmers.

Now we're almost to the point where it's a maze of, oh my god, I've got all these toll-free numbers, but what do you do?

Somebody told me the other day, and I think it's very, very wise.

Before you start telling somebody to reach out, call that resource and find out what you're really getting at the end of that phone line.

Because everybody's got a toll free number.

But do they really know agriculture?

Do they really know the stressors that you are going through?

Whether it's tomorrow, we're going to get one to two inches of rain.

That's going to kick us out of the fields.

If I'm not even started, that's a stressor.

uh, you know, bring about real life challenges like, uh, alcohol, drugs, uh, we're getting older.

Now my physical body can't do what I need it to do.

All of that mounts.

So I always remind people, I feel most confident about the Wisconsin department of egg tree and consumer protection.

They have the farmer hotline, which I will be giving you the 800 number there.

And that really gives a kind of a pallet of services for farms.

So they'll help you with financial resources if you're if you're struggling to figure out how to pay bills or how to how to manage debt.

They'll also help you with herd health.

That's something that nobody talks about.

When you are America's Dairyland, a lot of your stress comes from why can't I fix this with my dairy cows?

Right.

What in the world is wrong here?

So they help with that.

They also have counseling that's available and they work through other challenges like transition.

How am I going to get the next generation?

to come along with me and the dynamics of family business, which is really what 99% of our farms are.

Now, that number is 800-942-2474.

800-942-2474.

And that one is available basically during business hours, but they always will get back to you.

And that's one thing I always like to remind people is they will get back to you.

And then there's the other side of things.

As I said, when you get older,

or you're physically becoming more challenged, now they've started, since the pandemic, a farmer wellness hotline, and that will allow for remote vouchers.

Oh, that's a great

idea.

I just talked to Jess Boatchamp, who is the coolest chick.

She is the one that you will likely catch when you call for the farmer wellness hotline.

Jess is currently building a house right near my home farm, ironically enough, and yet we've never met.

which is hard to say about Abrams.

But anyhow, so what she was telling me is she is finding more and more farms that are comfortable using a voucher system if they need resources.

Because the last thing you want to ask a farmer to do is leave the farm to go to a session.

So these can be virtual.

And the other thing that they found is I think she said once a month they will get together online and just talk.

They'll have one farmer that maybe has been in kind of the conversations a little longer act as a moderator

and

Then they go and you decide what's going to be discussed now farmer to farmer That's where the groove.

That's where the magic really happens getting them to do that and the farmer wellness hotline is 888 901 25 58 888

901, 2558, and that's a 24-7 gig.

Now, it's not that Jess is propping her eyelids open with toothpicks to be there, but we've got an arrangement with Iowa, for example, Minnesota.

They've got similar services.

So if somebody's going to pick

up.

Somebody's going to pick up on him.

So those are the two main ones that I know that I am confident about, that I feel good referencing others.

Now, there's many other groups that we are fortunate to have around.

somebody in Sauk County lived through a husband's suicide, had farmed all his life, had challenges with depression at all his life, finally took his life, and the church community in the Sauk County community stepped in and said, hey, we got to do this.

These are our neighbors.

So they have the Farmer Angel Network.

We

have them on

the show.

Yeah.

I'm just, those people are so wonderful at how it is morphed into so much more.

And again, that's a farmer to farmer, completely confidential always, farmer to farmer kind of conversation that happens.

They just got done with a series of spring meetings to try to get everybody feeling better as they went to the fields.

Because as you alluded to with the outset, Jane, the unfortunate part about the audience that I love is they rank near the top in the nation of suicide.

Victims farming is not only one of the most dangerous occupations still even with technology It is also unfortunately one of the number one Suicide categories and it's because it's still largely dominated by men.

Yep, men don't talk men don't share men are super steel and then and and on the farm We've got guns.

We've got heavy machinery.

We've got all kinds of ways

that we can make it look like an accident if we want.

And that's what I hear from insurance agents is when somebody calls them and says, I want to know about my life insurance policy.

Red flag.

Yeah.

Red flag.

Why are you asking this?

And they will do some triage to see what's going on and ask maybe the question, are you thinking about suicide?

And that's a trigger because what they're trying to do is make sure that I'm going to make it look like an accident.

and set up the farm.

So these are the conversations.

If you're just joining us, Pam Yankee is our guest.

She is the fabulous farm babe.

You can hear her reports and her colleagues' reports across civic media.

And we're talking about mental health, especially, May is Mental Health Awareness Month, and especially about Wisconsin farmers.

We will include those numbers that you gave us, Pam, in our show notes.

Greg will make sure that they're in our show notes.

All I can think to is one of the groups that you mentioned.

Farmer to farmer, having farmer to farmer conversations has really got to be the way to go.

Oh, you definitely see response.

And it also helps regardless of demographics.

Let's recognize that Wisconsin farmers, although not as old as the national average, let's say the average Wisconsin farm is, you know, mid fifties.

But you may have young farmers that are in a different situation.

They've got a growing family or they're dealing with the stress of that transition.

Mom and dad don't want to get out of the way.

But I want a farm to be able to have different groups dealing with different items or circulating through different items and in a non-judgmental way, talking with each other.

That has turned out, according to Jess Bochamp, turned out to be very, very valuable to them.

And they seem to work.

And like I said, they can do it on their time.

If Jess wants to go to bed, for example, they can have a conversation after chores are done at 8.39 o'clock at

night.

Yeah, that's got to make all the difference, really.

And what you mentioned, Pam, about that is in all of the years I've been doing this and in all the storm reporting that I've done over the years, I never once thought about somebody's barn getting destroyed.

And what if you milked in that barn and what do you do with those cows that still have to get milked?

They don't care.

There was a storm.

Yeah.

And

also, oh, go on Pam, go on.

Well, I was just going to say, I know that many people have seen the news reports and that the very emotional.

I mean, listen, whether you want to believe it or not, if she's got a name or a number, I know that cow.

If I have to euthanize that cow, that is a mentally, oh, you think it's bad losing your dog or cat?

People.

I've spent half a generation trying to bring this cow into my herd.

And just watching the animals, I think, is probably the most difficult for any dairy farmer to handle.

And like I said, this is just the beginning of their path to recovery.

And it ain't going to happen overnight.

And the cast rules are going to disappear, and they're still going to have to be figuring out what next to get those cows home.

Reach out for help.

Help is available.

Please don't keep it to yourself.

Find someone to talk to.

Check our show notes.

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When she starts to cry, she takes a swing, man.

Good morning and welcome back to Matt Nair on air.

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We are going to talk about our state parks and which one is your favorite?

And then we're going to share some of the best worst state park reviews.

They're hilarious.

They're wonderful.

They are too much grass.

Too much.

It was a great state park, too much grass.

I don't understand the grass.

So that's all coming up after 10 30 right now.

Though Pam Yonkey is here.

She is the fabulous farm babe.

And you hear her reports across civic media.

And we had a text come in specifically for you, my friend.

Yes, Carol from Walk Shall Listen WAUK says, please let Pam know what a treasure she is.

She is an amazing advocate for farmers and agriculture as well as a tremendous educator for those of us unfamiliar with the issues farmers face.

Now, I'm glad Carol said that because that leads me into my question of guidance.

Now,

I suggest everyone listen to the Midwest Farm Report every morning from five to six right here on Civic Media, whether it's Pam Yankees, Stephanie Hoff or Ben Jarbo talking about the things that are important about farmers.

But you know, Pam, I didn't grow up in the farm.

I grew up in the suburbs.

I don't have farmers in my family.

Where would people go to get just your basic information besides your show on what's going on on our farms in Wisconsin and what is going on?

with our farmers themselves just so we're you know more educated and understand because a lot of people think farms that's that's way out in the country no it's 10 minutes west of you

yeah yeah especially in wisconsin yeah you're you're right in fact we were kind of talking about that i was i was uh with a young man that's 21 and same background zip on agriculture and i walked him through and i said you know

literally Wisconsin is still very fortunate that you don't have to drive very far before you find your first farm.

It may look different.

It may be more of a vegetable or produce, but they're there and I kind of speak to all of them.

You know, like I said, I kind of make sure I'm very careful about what I advise people to tap into because there's so much out there.

So I always encourage you please Midwest Farm Report on all the platforms on our website because at least I know that's a vetted source.

and what you get is going to be

verified.

There's a lot of social media streams.

I like to watch what's happening with the Wisconsin Farm Bureau Federation, Wisconsin Farmers Union.

If you're an issues driven person, if you're curious, I see some people had asked about state legislature doing some things.

That would be the best place to kind of walk along there.

I routinely talk to Senator Pat Teston, who's the current chair of the Senate Agriculture and Revenue Committee.

Then we've got Howard Markline, who's joint finance but comes from farming.

So some of those individuals may pull

things on occasion.

The National Association of Farm Broadcasters does a good job of trying to get stuff out too.

One site that I really think for just tidbits that will get you thinking, Wisconsin Ag in the Classroom.

Now it's designed for school kids, but not to, I don't want to condescend to the audience, but

given the lack of understanding a lot of folks or exposure people may have had to agriculture, those little tidbits might be thought starters that you never imagined.

It's a great

place

to start, yeah.

Just look for Wisconsin Ag in the classroom and it will give you little pieces of information.

on all of Wisconsin agriculture.

My heart, my background is in dairy, but think about cranberries and ginseng and things that you would have to travel to see if you wanted to see.

And the Wisconsin Ag in the Classroom program does it really wonderfully.

The other thing I like about it is they've got hands-on learning.

It's designed for teachers.

And what they do is they give teachers lesson plans that can also include teaching kids how to make butter, teaching kids how to do in the classroom cheese making in a Ziploc.

I mean,

just just if you think as an adult going through the process and oh yeah i never thought about salt or i never thought about this or i never thought about a flavor it does help you kind of get connected

If you will.

Yeah.

So those are some sources.

And I want to remind everybody too that, you know, speaking of the Wisconsin Farmers Union, we have Derek Von Rudin.

I'm Darren.

We do this all the time.

We screw up his name all the time.

Darren Von Rudin, who is the president on the first Wednesday of every month on the show, to talk about those issue-driven ideas and those notions that are affecting farmers and also

Pat Crichtlow has, Hans Brighton moves around as well.

So there are plenty of resources, but this is great, Pam.

And we'll, and I'll go through some of those and I will get them linked in the show notes so people can, and I don't think it's condescending or condescending at all to tell people, Hey, if you don't know anything, start where the kids start at the beginning and educate yourself.

Well, and like I said, they're, they're short because if you're not in it, your attention span to it isn't going to be all that great to begin with.

And, and like I said,

In this day and time, there is so much content out there.

But it's generally, like if you go to social media, somebody's got a point they're trying to make.

I always want to make sure that I'm providing you just a whole lot of options, but verified options that are news driven, fact driven, so that you can make your own decisions.

And like I said, egg in the classroom, start with the tidbits.

Start with the little bits that you can share with somebody else at the water cooler, as they used to say.

Now I want to make cheese in here.

Now I want to make Matt Nair on air cheese.

You

guys want to make cheese in a bag?

There you

go.

We're going to check that out.

We're going to start there.

We're going to make cheese.

That sounds like a real Gouda idea.

Oh, I like

that.

Pam Yankee is the fabulous farm babe.

So good to see you.

Thank you so very much, my friend.

Take care.

We'll have you back on in a few.

Absolutely.

Good to see you.

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saw this article and thought it would be an opportunity for us to love on our state parks.

This from the Wisconsin Public Radio Joel Patton out with the byline, much loved and underfunded.

Wisconsin State Parks celebrate 125 years.

Thanks to revenue sharing and volunteers.

That's essentially what keeps our parks open.

Yes, we have 50 state.

Parks, so what is your favorite state park in Wisconsin 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 your favorite state park in Wisconsin Which one is it?

We want to know what you love to do there.

What's so great about it?

And then we're gonna share some of the best worst Reviews is

amazing

of Wisconsin state parks Do you have a favorite

I am not going to lie.

I don't have a ton of exposure to Wisconsin State Parks, but I always love Devils Lake Park.

It's just beautiful.

There's a lot of walk.

It's just, it's very, very

unique.

It's sought after people go there all the time.

And it's just a cool place to go and relax and hang out.

I mean, like all good parks.

I mean, all parks are wonderful, but Devils Lake is just, I have to go back there.

855-752-4842.

What is your favorite?

State Park in Wisconsin, 855-75 Civic.

I think about all the ones around Bayfield, the Apostle Islands, I mean, the Apostle Islands, State Park.

That whole area is kind of like one big park.

Bayfield is just, I mean, I would love to get up there and just spend some time.

You would love Bayfield.

I want to

really visit Northwestern Wisconsin, because the stories I hear, and I know Tony is up in Ashland.

It's just

it's so beautiful.

Yeah, it we are blessed with Unbelievable nature here.

We really are in Wisconsin and depending upon where you go around the state You get something a little bit different all over the place.

Absolutely eight five five seven five two four eight four two What is your favorite, Wisconsin State Park?

I have friends who would always go to Copper Falls or the the flowage

The Flowage.

Welcome to The Flowage.

Well, as it could be a movie.

Welcome to The Flowage.

Casper in Madison texting in Peninsula State Park.

Absolutely gorgeous.

The best sunset in the entire state.

Well then.

That's pretty high praise.

Jess in Dane County listening in WAUK.

Thank you for listening.

Jesse.

Jesse.

Amacon Falls.

You can swim in.

And so you can swim in, on, and around waterfalls.

I've never heard of this.

Sign me up.