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He's going to be joining us after the 9 30 news
We did share the breaking news very briefly yesterday about the Supreme Court race in North Carolina.
The
2024 elections are done.
Are
finally done.
There was this long drawn out question over ballots in North Carolina that was finally resolved yesterday.
So we're going to talk to Jim Santel about that.
There are many, many other things.
that are not necessarily going well for the Trump administration, courtesy of some Trump appointed judges.
What?
I know.
I don't think he thought it was going to go that way.
Didn't he call them mind judges?
Yeah, they're they're mine.
I mean, and he also doesn't seem to have a really good friend on the Supreme Court either in one Amy Coney Barrett either, which is very odd.
And John Roberts also made an appearance that's getting some attention.
Of course, he never mentions the president by name, but he took some jabs, apparently, in the most John Roberts of ways.
Very Wisconsin, passive aggressive.
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Yeah, yeah, probably shouldn't do that, you know.
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Wanted to start off with a little update.
We talked about this a little bit yesterday.
Wisconsin's very own Sean Duffy, you know, our new, ahead of the Department of Transportation.
Yeah.
The Duffster.
The Duffster Duffmeister.
It does seem to be a hallmark of this administration.
And you had mentioned this as we were getting ready for the show.
It's like when you're a kid.
Yeah.
And you break something and mom comes in and says, who did this?
Jane did enough.
I didn't do it.
He did over there.
Yep.
They did it.
It was my brother.
It's not my fault.
It was my sister.
It's their fault.
I didn't do it.
Nope, they did.
Yeah.
So that's pretty much the entire Trump administration.
Nothing is ever their fault.
No, never.
Ever.
I mean, the fact when, when that department admitted that they had incorrectly deported Kilmara Brego Garcia, I was actually like, whoa, they admitted to a wrong, they admitted it was their fault.
in the tiniest of ways.
But that
is just a small pebble in the sea.
So Jean Duffy, of course, making the rounds yesterday, blaming everything wrong with the FAA now
on
Pete Buttigieg, who is the Biden administration's head of the Department of Transportation, who is currently not the secretary of transportation.
He is not.
Correct.
He is not.
And I also find it interesting that
It only goes, the problems at the AFAA only go back to the previous four years.
Not the previous eight.
When Donald Trump was in office the first time.
And apparently these same issues were not addressed under that Trump administration either.
Yeah, Pat had spoken about this earlier in the morning and he had said, Pete Bujaj had brought these concerns to the table.
Congress didn't want to vote on it or they promoted it down or they just didn't it wasn't a big deal right now Don't worry about it.
I did find a little something
a little a little something from lever news in the spring of 2012 shortly after Sean Duffy was elected here in Wisconsin Yes, and he defeated Pat Gritlow.
Yeah in 2012 shortly after Duffy took office in
The GOP controlled house was deliberating on an aviation spending bill after negotiations had dragged out for years.
At the very last minute, a representative from Pennsylvania tagged on an amendment that would have limited the FAA's authority to impose safety measures on the aviation industry.
I'm sorry, would you read that
again?
I'll speak slowly.
At the last minute, they tried to tag on an amendment that would have limited the FAA's authority to impose safety measures on the aviation industry.
Regulators would have been forced to justify the cost of any safety regulations to the airline industry.
Even with a whole bunch of Republicans in the house at that time,
The vote on the amendment was really close.
Sean Duffy voted in favor of it.
Oh, really?
He did.
Sean Duffy voted in favor for a law that limited the FAA's authority to impose safety measures on the aviation industry.
Now, ultimately, even though that amendment did pass, by the time the bill made it for its final vote, it had been cut out of it.
Yeah.
But again, Sean Duffy
Voted in favor of that
Sean Duffy current secretary of transportation and one of the articles I was reading in preparation that was saying that when he was nominated for this position the airline industry was so happy because they knew they had a friend in Sean because of deregulation and laxed rules because just before they came into into power I said bows bowing
Was going through a nightmare of of problems and the government was trying to hold them accountable That's not don't worry about it.
They'll get it for taking care of it.
It's fine.
You got a few corners.
You got a few corners What could go wrong?
Just make sure by next Wednesday, they're fine and I won't even check because I don't really care.
But yeah, Sean Duffy is Taking the Trump train to Blametown just like all of his other little cabinet secretaries who cannot seem to
take responsibility for anything and also just really don't know what they're doing because they're not qualified to be in those positions.
Seriously.
Remember Chelsea Sullenberger?
Captain Sully?
His first name
is
Chelsea?
His first name is Chelsea.
Chesley.
Chesley.
I just want to say I love traditional female names on men.
They always sound good.
But I didn't know that.
Go on.
Sully.
Sully Sullenberger.
Yeah.
He was the guy, the miracle on the Hudson,
that
whole thing.
They got hit by birds as they were taking off and managed to land on the water.
Nobody got killed.
Nobody got hurt.
It was astonishing.
There's a great movie with Tom Hanks in the starring role.
That's definitely worth watching.
At the time, Captain Sully said this amendment that Sean Duffy voted for was, quote, a giant step backwards in terms of aviation safety.
Warning that if it became law at some point in the future, we don't know when.
It's likely people will die unnecessarily.
Again, ultimately the measure failed.
Yes.
But Sean Duffy at the time did vote for
it.
And I hate to tell you so.
I mean, and Sully, if you listen to him in interviews, he's not some crunchy hippie liberal.
He's just a straight ahead guy.
Just like he's not, he doesn't push one agenda or the other.
But I would take his word on this, his expertise.
Absolutely.
And the problem is, is it's too late.
People have already died.
People have already died because of the ineptitude of this administration.
That department run by that man who voted against regulating, or I'm sorry, not regulating, allowing the FAA to impose
regulations.
Safety regulations.
What are
we doing right now?
And the other thing that I did not realize is my own ignorance.
After he left Congress in 2019, Sean Duffy worked as a lobbyist for BGR Group at the time that included fighting subsidies received by airlines, foreign rivals.
He also lobbied on behalf of auto makers and fossil fuel interests.
And he lobbied for Polaris and auto manufacturer.
He also worked on behalf of the partnership for open and fair skies, a coalition of airlines, including American Delta and United.
So he was lobbying for the airlines and nothing airlines love more than regulations
and
safety requirements.
Yeah.
And Sean is their guy.
Make sure they don't have to be responsible for, I mean,
I don't know like I don't understand why they why an airline I guess I don't understand why an airline would want less regulation if you open yourself to more lawsuits if there aren't regulations and it just blows my mind completely that they would be like yeah, let's totally be without Oversight that makes sense
Let's not also forget that right when the Trump administration took over They started firing people almost instantaneously.
Yes, and a whole bunch of people.
Yep
from the FAA got fired
and in the whole bunch of
air traffic
controllers in the articles, we will be posting that information will be in there.
Yes.
Uh, they fired air traffic controllers and they said, then, then what did they do?
The same thing when they fired all the other people.
They said, Oh, no, we need those.
We need them.
So instead of saying, come on back, we'll, we will reinstate your jobs.
Now, Sean Duffy is looking at ways they can extend these individuals' retirements.
Air traffic controlling is one of the most stressful jobs.
At least in this country, if not the world, it stresses them out, and 56 is when they get to retire.
I don't think a lot of them are going to want to stay any longer unless they really love it.
And it has a hard impact on your life.
But he said, we want them to serve their country.
Do it for the good.
Do it for the country.
Do it for the greater good.
Yeah, do it for me because I really need it.
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Looks like we made it.
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Right now that we are talking about our transportation secretary, Sean Duffy, Wisconsin's own
I didn't do it mom.
Billy did it.
Billy did it.
Pete did it.
Pete did it.
Pete did it.
Pete's fault.
It's Pete's fault.
Sean Duffy all over the place.
They sure spent a lot of time on TV.
They really do.
He is on an inordinate amount of television.
Just like Ron Johnson.
But Pete's, I'm sorry, Sean Duffy's all over the place blaming problems with the FAA now on Pete Buttigieg, the previous head of the Department of Transportation and
I did not realize that before Sean was elected or got this position, he was lobbying on behalf of the airline industry.
Yeah.
And he also cast a very interesting vote.
He did.
Back when he was in the house in Wisconsin, he voted against a measure that would have allowed the FAA to institute more safety regulations on the airline industry.
And Sean voted against that.
Ultimately, that measure failed.
But he still voted against it.
It still says a lot.
And I also did not realize this.
At one point, Duffy appeared on Fox, of course.
When?
To criticize Pete Buttigieg, his investigation into Southwest Airlines.
You got to remember this in 2023.
Remember that holiday traffic meltdown?
Yeah.
Where millions of people were stranded all over the country.
Yeah, Pete Buttigieg wanted to do an investigation into Southwest.
Sean Duffy instead called for more deregulation of the airline industry.
Quote, quote, Southwest will fix this.
Pete Buttigieg never will.
Because when problems arise always leave it to the billion-dollar corporations to take care
they'll do the right thing for the interest of the people They'll do the right thing Anna on the live stream says there is not one person in the Trump administration that takes responsibility I call them the blame and shame party.
They always lash out and say it's the left lunatics It is exhausting.
It really really is exhausting because we're sitting here
talking about this information, diving deep into the nuanced discussion of it all and giving you, because when I looked up Sean Duffy blames Pete booted judge, the first three hits are all Fox news.
So I'm like, it's not a credible discussion.
So you have to dig deeper.
And we want to get information to you.
And I'm sure none of you listening to us right now are surprised that
It's all Pete Buja's fault when you just dig like say like a Google search below that you're gonna find out it's really not his fault and Sean Duffy is is You know placing the blame other places and and just doing what the Trump administration does was never take responsibility
Well, and again, I go back to it's from it's remarkable to me that all of these problems Only surfaced yeah within the last four years not the four years
prior to that.
No.
When Donald Trump was in office and I guess could have done something about it then.
Maybe not.
He couldn't because Barack Obama had messed everything up before him and so on and so forth.
It's never Donnie's fault.
Well, if the current administration is going to continue their path, I would think because we just lost another super horned fighter jet yesterday.
What
are the things like 80 million dollars?
60 million dollars a piece.
Guess what?
We pay for that.
This is the second one that we've lost from the USS Harry Truman aircraft into the Red Sea.
God, the second lost jet in just over a week.
So, Hey, Pete Hexeth, come on, step up.
Blame the previous administration.
Here's your chance.
Don't let it slip by.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I guess the ultimate point too is that like we're telling you this information, I'm sure.
98% of you are not shocked, but there's a 2% of those.
No, that's not true It doesn't matter what we tell them.
Well, yeah, we're always wrong.
Yeah, it's always someone else's fault
absolutely Just like your five-year-old at home.
I have a five-year-old at home Billy did you break the glass?
No mommy.
I didn't break the glass Billy didn't
Yeah,
it's or the dog or the cat always blame the cat.
Maybe they should get a cat
Maybe the white they need a White House cabinet secretary
meow meow I love it.
I love
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Good morning, Jim.
And Jane, Greg, always a delight to be with you, always.
some things to talk about in America and Wisconsin and beyond.
Remarkably, there is always something.
We kind of jumped in yesterday as this broke and we didn't have a whole lot of time to get into it because we knew you were going to be joining us today.
But this decision finally in North Carolina that has been dragging out since the 2024 election over this Supreme Court race, the incumbent
who is a Democrat and then the Republican challenger, who it seemed to me went to remarkable lengths to try and throw out votes.
And that did not work out for well for him in the end.
It did not and in the end consistent with the thing we seem to always talk about when we get together on Thursday mornings is a federal judge comes to the rescue if you will of the rule of law and finally says enough is enough not quite in those terms but says among other things there have been three recounts and it to the in fairness to this this situation 5.5 million votes cast in North Carolina for this Supreme Court in race
a margin of 734.
That's very, very close.
Absolutely.
No doubt about
it.
That's a tiny margin.
It is.
It is.
And so it can't fault Judge Jefferson Griffin.
He is the challenger for at least asking for the recounts going down this road.
But to your point, Jane, this is the big story.
Enough is enough.
This has been all over the board three different recounts went into the supreme the state supreme court for a while judges high and low looking at this and state supreme court actually sort of a Mixed review on all this sort of giving judge Griffin some reason to continue in the end in the end the the federal court says
This is clear that Justice Allison Riggs, she is the incumbent.
She is the Democrat about whom you spoke, has won admittedly by a small margin.
And as many people have said, this is trying to change the rules after the game has been played.
Yes.
And it's because, again, Jefferson Griffin, he's an appeals court judge there making the challenge.
He says that 65,000 ballots either should be thrown or at least looked at because of military eligibility having to do with the IDs.
not supported by the law.
300 other voters, they're called never, never residents, also not supported by the law.
And he continues to advance.
these empty theories to get this case overturned.
Finally, once again, the federal court says, no, we're interfering.
We're not interfering here.
We are appropriately putting this to an end.
And so justice, Alice and Riggs, the last of all the votes nationwide to be certified coming in from November.
The other reason why this is so important, I know that you and Greg are talking about this because
We forget, North Carolina is an awful lot like Wisconsin,
because they
fractured state, right, Shane?
And among other things, it went to Donald Trump in the same time that they elected a Democratic governor, his name is Josh Stein.
They also have this very bifurcated view of who they want to send to positions of responsibility.
And again, that's the reason why we look to North Carolina.
As the Attorney General said in the end, this was not a case that had any merit from the beginning.
But I really admire him.
His name is Jeff Jackson.
He says from the beginning, this was an attempt to twist the law to reverse the outcome of a legitimate election.
This attack didn't work.
And here's the point.
Here's the point that you're making.
But there's a real risk that other losing candidates might try the same attack in the future.
North
Carolina, Wisconsin, other places, endless battles, endless battles.
that are not based upon the law.
Well, and I think it's important that when even just going back to the recount, because originally she only won by like 600 and some votes after they did the recount, she picked up even more.
So that's what brought it to the 700.
And this happened in Wisconsin when when Donald Trump requested a recount and we did it that we pay or that maybe the Trump campaign for it paid for it.
But they found more votes for Joe Biden.
in 2020.
And so when that doesn't work, when that avenue doesn't work, it seems to me, that's when they start looking at these other things.
Well, okay, this didn't work for us.
What's our next option?
Where can we start xing out and throwing out some of these ballots based on, as you said, changing the rules after the fact?
That's essentially what they were trying to do.
Right.
And throwing out ballots of military voters overseas, right, based upon, again, an unsupported notion that somehow they had to present ID, which they did not, under North Carolina law.
It's so very cynical in addition to being just plain wrong.
This other notion, 300 votes, I suppose, if each one of those had gone in the opposite direction, you'd chip away half of that.
But also there's notion that there are people who are voting who are not properly living there in North Carolina, also now supported by the facts and the law.
to your point, Jane, this notion that let's look around to see what else we can allege, even though there's no basis for it.
And the big lesson, again, from the Attorney General for all of us here in the state of Wisconsin, plainly we know that elections will continue to be contested.
Let's not make this Griffin-Riggs battle, if you will, a precedent.
Let's recognize that, yes, you can do the recounts.
They may be close, but and maybe you go into court on one of them and you say, gee, there's some issues about the recount we want to address.
That's again, the due process about which we talk routinely on this wonderful broadcast.
But then at some point you stop and you say, as again, Judge Griffin said just yesterday, okay, I'm finally conceding huge amounts of money.
huge amounts of pleadings and arguments and the losers here really are the people in North Carolina who spend a huge amount of money also on all of this frivolous.
virtually from the
start.
Yeah, the North Carolina taxpayers are the ones who are put on the hook for this.
This has to be millions and millions and millions of dollars dragging this out to this extent.
And the other thing I think it's important to point out, which also has echoes of what has happened in Wisconsin, when they were looking at ballots that they wanted to toss, they focused specifically on five or six different areas that were much more democratic than Republican.
Yes, right.
So you pick and choose, as you can imagine, federal judges don't especially like that.
When you go in and say, here's the hand I've been dealt, but I'm only going to present you with two of the cards, right?
Judges, any judges, federal judges, state judges will always look at you and say, well, let's see the entire hand to make certain that this is not cherry picking, to mix metaphors here, and playing that was going on here.
We try, and again, high marks, Judge Griffin for tenacity.
But at what cost?
At what cost?
To the American public, to the North Carolinans, to the bank books there, of the coffers in North Carolina, and frankly, to Justice, generally.
You delayed this now for ever since November, and you've gotten a result that frankly was decided way back in November.
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Yeah, you brought the point chain that I was going to make about the votes, the ballots they want to throw out coming out from Democratic counties.
Pat had on Michael McElroy on this morning, excuse me, who is a courier news reporter for the Cardinal and Pine has been covering this for a while.
I'm going to put his article in the show notes about this.
But the thing that always worries me too is that, all right, he may have failed his endeavor to overthrow this election.
But who's the next person who's going to come in and say, well, let's just do it a little differently and maybe it'll work this time.
So it's about what I said to you before about Donald Trump is the bar is low.
There's always going to be someone who's going to come in and say, I can go lower.
Watch this.
Right, right.
And you've also, to your good point, Greg, you've deposited this notion out there, even though it's completely frivolous, completely unfounded, that you know what, there's an issue about military bouts, or an issue about people who are not here, and you repeat it enough, and that is the playbook of our president, right?
You repeat this absolutely unfounded stuff, and eventually you wake up and you say, well, gee, if it's been talked about at this great length, maybe there's something
here and maybe
the next time, Greg.
as you're not predicting but foreboding here.
Maybe that takes as more credence and maybe there's some judge, we get a different judge who says, well, yeah, let me take a look at that because it's been out and about.
That's also the horrific danger of this.
And we saw a lot of that in 2024 where it wasn't so much the people saying,
You know, 2020 was stolen.
It was rigged.
It was a rigged election.
And it was more people saying, I don't know.
I'm not sure if I totally trust it, but and that is the worst sower of dissent than crazy people coming at you saying, you took our election.
It's more of the people like, well, we should know all the
information first.
And to completely sideline this conversation.
Now they're going to start teaching that in Oklahoma schools.
Oh boy.
Now they are putting that into the curricula of Oklahoma schools to question the results of the 2020 election.
That's a whole other mind-blowing thing we don't have time to get into.
That'll be in their state-issued Bibles.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And again, the notion that it's just simmering out there, people will say, Greg,
Gosh, wasn't there a lot of litigation about those voting machines?
Wasn't there some contest there?
And I remember something.
I don't recall the headlines.
Yes, the headlines were that Dominion Voting Machines won a multi-million dollar
defamation lawsuit against Fox News for misstating what happened here.
And yet that aura out there, that atmosphere that says, yeah, there's something out there.
We should make certain whether it's in Oklahoma or frankly in Wisconsin that we're very attentive to that in the future.
Look what happened to Judge Griffin in North Carolina.
Let's make certain that doesn't happen again here in our state.
That's the fear.
This is why you're a lawyer, because he said Fox News misstated it.
I just called him a bunch of blatant liars.
That's what I do.
But then I am not a lawyer, which is why I can do
those things.
You're more accurate than I am, Jane.
That's exactly what the court said.
And I still don't understand why people go to that channel for information when they were fined almost a billion dollars for lying to you.
But that's your choice.
It's a free country.
We're going to talk a little bit about overseas ballots when we get back because we talked to Democrats abroad numerous times about what those folks have to go through in order to cast a ballot.
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Jim, we were talking about finally the North Carolina Supreme Court race has been decided and the Democrat will retain her seat after months and months and months of delays by the Republican challenger who decided to pick on overseas votes.
And I just wanted to say very briefly, Jim, we talked to Democrats abroad numerous times leading up to the 2024 election.
It's not.
There is a process that everyone has to go through.
It's not just like, here's a ballot, I throw it in the mail and everybody's gonna count it.
Put it in a bottle and throw the
water.
And
yes, and it'll get there eventually.
I mean, there is a process.
The clerk of courts knows who these
people are, right?
and gives them the right information, gives them right documents.
And let me comment from my own personal experience of all that happens on this end, because like many of your listeners, I also serve as a poll worker and an election chief.
And when those military ballots come in, they're regarded as absentee ballots.
you should see the precision with which they are reviewed.
The documents that get them in, frankly, not in the bottle.
I know, Greg, you're being silly about that.
But quite literally, there is a very formal bottle that brings them across the seas or whatever the transit points are.
And when they're received here,
Again, the election workers two and three of them review this makes certain that the documents are put together They're basically I know this is going to prompt an awful lot of inquiry We then remake the ballot here based upon what they have done again with oversight and checking back and forth to ensure that their ballot is Accurate that it is properly put together and that is then used as a part of the overall voting
both overseas and here, it could not be tighter.
I don't want to make the argument that it's even, even tighter than it would be if you vote in person or absentee, but it is clear that, that again, the notion that you can engage in fraud by doing this somehow and just sending a letter in is once again, second time this morning, I'll use the word absurd and unfounded.
And I think the other thing too, we have to remember and you, and you said it, Jane, just before is that is.
This isn't a nationwide run election.
These are run by many, many
clerks.
And one, when you call into question the veracity of their voting, you're calling into question the integrity of their job.
But also, it would take so much work to orchestrate a fraud on that level.
that it almost, it would fall apart before it could even get
started.
Well, just the number of people you would need to pull it off.
Oh my God.
Because we always know if you're going to commit a crime, you want to have as many people
do it as possible because
nobody ever leaks.
There's never a weak link in that chain.
It's what we call the impossibility of the conspiracy.
Again, even people who haven't engaged in pull of working before, after one day, if you're a poll worker, you watch this and you say, how is it possible that any single vote
could get through.
At the end of the night, if for some reason the tapes do not comport with the hand count, comport with the other analyses, we stay there and look for that one vote and we find it, right?
Somehow it is just impossible to do.
And Greg, following up on your notion that you're you're attacking not some national election.
Constitution says James Madison stuff.
Times, place, and circumstances are matters for the states, and states then regulate this.
It is the clerks who do it.
When you're attacking this process, you're looking right over there at City Hall at the Village Hall and saying, my clerk is engaging in fraud.
That's the allegation you're making.
Once again, completely, completely unfounded.
And I read another article this morning.
We are having a tough time finding people who are willing to do that job now because there was so much hatred and vitriol aimed at those people.
This is really becoming an issue.
So anybody listening, you may want to consider becoming an election clerk because we need them.
Or based on our conversation, they may say, no, thank you.
Or
not.
But this is going to be a problem
further down the road.
it is or at least a volunteer with a group or you can come in on your own to be an election observer.
And just spend the day, you can't become involved in the process.
It's arms length, but watch it.
And then go home and talk to your family members, talk to your neighbors and say, I was there.
If you believe me, there's nothing here to this notion that somehow voting can be undermined.
I'll have to go back and see if I can find it.
A reporter from the Milwaukee Journal sent out after the 2020 election did an extensive
Line by line explanation of what happens with ballots in the chain of custody and all of that stuff.
It's much more complicated than people realize and there are so many checks on it.
all throughout the process.
As you said, Greg, pulling off a massive voter fraud, that would really be quite an accomplishment.
Yeah.
And would be discovered very soon.
Because again, that one person would come forward and say, I've got a story for the New York Times.
Guess what's going on in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, or Madison, or Warsaw, or Stevens Point, right?
And again, doesn't happen.
It does not happen.
Absolutely.
I trust Ron Johnson, who with the 2024 election said,
said that of all places in Wisconsin folks, Milwaukee's central count was running smoothly, efficiently.
All good to
go.
Accurately.
So thanks, Ron Johnson.
Big help there.
We appreciate that vote of confidence.
Jim Santel hosts Amicus, a law review Saturday mornings from 9 to 11 across the network.
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Thank you so much, Jim.
Really appreciate your time.
We will see you next week.
Jane, Greg, always a pleasure, a delight, and we'll see what happens between now and next Thursday.
Did you think anything?
I suspect so.
Well, I have
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For listening for listening sessions.
Yeah, they were in Hayward in West Alice was saw and Khakana Attended by hundreds of residents who voiced their concerns and no surprise to me And I don't think anybody here that the number the three top things that came up were funding for education Health care and child care.
Yep.
Those are the number one concerns
at least from the people who showed up to these hearings at the joint finance committee.
Yeah, and if I'm not mistaken, I believe it was Cassandra who yesterday said she went to one of them and was sat around for nine hours.
Nine hours.
And
didn't really get the full-throated endorsement of the group to say, like, we're going to look at these things.
It was just sort of like, I heard another person refer to it as a dog and pony show.
It's just performance.
It's
performance.
And at that point, we're like, why are you even
doing this?
So they don't look so bad.
They're gonna look terrible regardless.
Education was the top concern at all four hearings with many people voicing support for more higher education and K-12 school funding.
And a lot of folks also called for increased funding for special education, which has been underfunded for a very long time.
Yes, absolutely.
Private.
Voucher schools.
Let me say that again.
Private voucher schools, which we pay for.
Yes, it's, I
don't know if you know this, but we have what's called a second publicly funded school system
in this state.
Private voucher schools get up to 90% reimbursement of special education costs through a special program.
Governor Evers has proposed a more than $1 billion increase in special ed reimbursements to at least meet a 60% coverage level.
in this year's budget.
Which I'm sure will be stripped out immediately along with 611 other things in the budget the Republicans hate.
And that people actually want.
Yeah, absolutely.
A lot of other folks, according to this article here, are worried about federal threats to Medicaid, telling lawmakers how even a small cut to that money will greatly affect care centers, disability care centers, in home care programs, you know, a lot of programs.
that allow people to stay in their homes instead of going into a nursing home.
Those are all at risk.
One person from the Balsam Lake endeavors adult development center said, if anything happens to any part of the Medicaid program, we will probably end up closing our doors.
And we have 55 people that come here every single day.
GOP controlled house last month passed a revised budget resolution requiring the committee that oversees Medicaid
to cut spending by 880 million over the next 10 years.
That means programs like Badger Care, Family Care, they provide coverage to 20% of Wisconsin residents, 38% of Wisconsin's kids, and 60% of nursing home patients.
I have been seeing some pushback from house members on the national level in the US House, pushing back on this about any cuts to Medicaid.
because they're hearing from their constituents, don't do this.
Well, the thing is, is that for decades, they've been saying, we need to cut Medicaid, Medicare, we need to cut Social Security.
And now that they're finally about to catch that car, they realize they're going to get hit, and it's not going to be good.
And people, especially the people who usually vote for them, are already so angry.
Well, and it's interesting, Steve Bannon of all people.
Yeah, don't touch it.
Didn't he say?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
There are a lot of magas who use Medicaid.
And if you touch this, you're going to pay for this.
Wow.
Who would have thought?
Who would have thunk it?
Residents, again, we're talking about the four meetings that the Joint Finance Committee held around Wisconsin and the top three concerns that came up.
Residents also use their hearings to express concerns about child care access.
Many are supporting Governor Evers $480 million funding request for childcare counts.
We talked to Corinne Hendricks on yesterday.
There's going to be an event on Monday about the importance of childcare.
This has major economic ramifications.
It just, it goes along with everything we're seeing on the national level of like cut, fire, dismiss, shrink down, all of it.
It doesn't.
It doesn't have a good ROI, if you will.
It's not long-term planning.
It's this notion of like, we're gonna cut, cut, cut, cut, cut.
Yeah, you know what?
Eventually you're gonna cut into something that really hurts the people who support you, and now they're starting to hear, hey, can you not do, and when you hear from Republicans, and we are hearing from some, I wonder how many behind closed doors are really saying, this is a disaster.
But they can't say that out
loud.
Well, they could say it out loud.
Oh,
yes.
No, they they
they're electing not to
They're
electing not to 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 if you would like to join the conversation Tom from West Alice is on the line.
Good morning Tom.
Thanks for joining us
Two of you.
I'm sorry Tom.
We we didn't hear you at the very beginning start again, please
I'm sorry.
I just said good morning to them.
Oh
good morning
Back in the game
When I was a high school theater geek, technical geek, we had a listening session.
And so we had a whole bunch of senators and stuff on the stage.
And each one was individually mic'd.
And I'm sitting there.
And I'm seeing that they're all talking to each other while people are testifying.
And for the heck of it, I put my headphones on and I can monitor each microphone.
None of them were listening.
to them.
They were talking about their weekends, what they're going to do golfing.
One was talking about golfing with another one.
It was, they weren't listening.
There was no listening.
No, this is like you said, Tom, it's performative.
It's just to say they did it.
Exactly.
And this is solid proof.
You know, you could sit there and think they're talking business or something.
No, no, they didn't care.
And the thing lasted like two hours.
And yeah, I was very
very disappointed with our legislators when I was hearing all that.
What an eye opener.
Hey, Tom.
Yeah, it really was.
I bet again when I was in high school, so I've always been jaded since.
Yeah.
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for to talking about the Joint Finance Committee that has wrapped up its budget listening sessions.
They had them in Hayward, West Alice, Wasaw, and Kokona.
And the top three issues people brought up were funding for education, the state of healthcare, and childcare.
How much you want to bet?
None of those things are addressed when they pass the budget.
However, something did get done this morning on a national level.
What?
Marjorie Taylor Greene's measure to officially rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.
Past this morning in the house.
Good thing there's nothing else going on in the world or in the country that needs to be addressed.
The house laser focused on things that people really, really, really concerned about.
It's in the house now while it move on to the Senate.
So we'll see what happens.
I have a feeling it's going
to.
die in the Senate.
They're gonna be like, this is adorable.
I mean, it's almost like it's a distraction, Jane, from the fact that she's being, there's inquiries about insider trading when the stock market crashed a couple of weeks ago and then rebounded and she made
a
bunch of
money.
She did make a whole bunch of money.
Yes.
And in a different hearing yesterday, that was supposed to be about one thing.
She completely turned it into trans people playing tennis.
It had nothing to do with what was on the agenda and what they were supposed to be talking about.
They're deflection.
It's a
skill.
Deflection, blame someone else, never accept responsibility, attack, attack, attack, and
yeah.
And if that doesn't work, deflection is good.
Oh my gosh.
Dog ate my homework, it was the dog.
Dog did it, dog ate my homework.
His fault, playing's crashed.
Yep.
It's his fault.
His fault.
I didn't do it.
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She don't mean no harm, she just don't...
I've paid
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Let's talk about some pretty great weather, Brittany Merleau.
Seriously, gosh, it's like award winning weather, I would say.
It is.
I don't know
whether it's like in Wausau, but here in Racine, it's, it's like a perfect spring day.
Same here.
State wide, baby.
We are all seeing that sunshine all week long.
Temperatures, yeah, I guess they're in the cooler side of things.
I'll take it.
It's average.
This is where we should be right now in those mid to upper 60s.
But that pollen, ew, allergies, that's rough today.
You can see it on the roads.
You
can see, you know, if you drive into the tree, look under the trees.
and all that stuff that they've dropped and that people who have allergies must be in agony.
Yesterday, I think during the show yesterday, I was starting to like, my eyes were starting to water and itch and stuff like that.
And it was just like I had to, I'm not that allergic to pollen.
So it has to be high for it to affect me, but it was affecting me hard.
Yeah, absolutely.
And then we've also got that high fire danger, very high fire danger, especially north of the Dells, all throughout the Northwoods, central Wisconsin.
And we've had some pretty big fires.
I mean, Ashland had a fire and it burned only a five mile stretch along highway two.
It had to actually close down highway two.
I think it was just east of the town, not far though, and on the south side.
There's a lot of structures on the north side of that highway.
So they really lucked out.
And there were four different starting points of this fire, too, started by equipment.
So I just want to stress that as we go through this week and into this weekend, a lot of people are going to be doing yard cleanup or, you know, maybe you want to have that bonfire with mom or something.
Please don't don't do it.
I know it sounds nice and amazing, but we've got to hold off just another week.
Okay, we're going to get some significant rain by the end of next week, definitely next weekend and into the following week as well.
So if we just hold off a little longer, we'll be good to go.
And I think part of the problem might be Brittany too, is that people just don't realize that it's still that dry because we have had a fair, it's been a relatively wet spring.
Yeah, you'd think.
I mean, everything's starting to get green.
It felt like a drencher for a few weeks at a time and they've just stopped.
But when it stops like this and we're not.
fully greened up throughout the entire state, it's still fuel just sitting there, especially in the Northwoods.
So what I'm hearing from you, Brittany, is...
Don't do yard work this weekend.
You can do it.
Put it in a pile, but don't put that lighter to it.
You're
killing his buzz here.
Don't do yard work is what I hear.
Sit on the couch and watch a Marvel movie or three.
Thank you.
Thank you for that.
That's exactly
what she said.
Perfect.
Yes.
You don't do yard work this weekend.
The one thing too.
And I know we had talked about this last week because all these little pop up nurseries now are showing up here around the Milwaukee area.
And I did stop at one last week.
weekend just to visit things and say,
hello,
I'm not ready for you.
Brittany said, Brittany said, I can't plant you yet, but, but we, we have frost, uh, frost issue tonight.
Yes, we do.
So up north, we had one last night.
I woke up this morning in Wausau and it was frost outside.
So it is seeping its way south overnight tonight.
I'm talking about all of central Wisconsin down to Madison, even east towards Milwaukee and towards the Fox Valley, Green Bay.
You're probably going to see a frost advisory issue because the growing season started yesterday.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I would wait it out if you can, at least to this weekend, especially for Madison, Milwaukee area south.
Further up north, I'd probably give it another week or two.
Another two
weeks.
Yeah.
Got another system that wants to swing some stuff down, but that looks to stay north of highway 29.
So I would say after tonight.
South of highway 29, go for it.
All right, then I'm going flower shopping.
I just imagined Jane walking around the flower.
Hello, you.
Hello, pansies.
Hello.
Hello, Rhododendrum.
Hello, dragon.
Yes, snapdragons.
I love you.
Yes.
The lady is back.
The
lady is back
in aisle seven.
She's back.
Watch her.
Just
watch her.
So nice this weekend.
And then later next week, we're going to see some rain.
Yes, yes, we are thankfully and I was looking at the precipitation outlook to for all of May June and July just for those green thumbs and the gardeners Then they were predicting an average amount of precipitation So that would be four to five inches each and every single one of those months and it would be good because plants need at least an inch of rain a week So that should suffice.
So hopefully we stay on average once we get out of this Omega block, which is happening
Uh, you know, by next week, I think Tuesday, Wednesday, we have a small chance of some light rain, but that would only bring a tenth to a corner of an inch.
I really like next Sunday.
That's when the big system moves in and that's going to give us an inch or so of rain.
Well, check back in with Brittany next Thursday at this same time.
Multiple award winner, Brittany Merleau.
Thank you so much.
Really appreciate it.
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Paul Noonan is here.
Good morning, Paul.
Hey, good morning, everybody.
So the Brewers lost last night.
It was not good, but they had won like three in a row up to that point.
Yeah, they're actually doing pretty well.
as of late.
They had some trouble with the Cubs in their last really tough match against a good team, but they did well against Houston and their starting rotation seems to have solidified a little bit.
They got Tobias Meyers back a few days ago.
He had done a little bit of bullpen work and kind of been rounding back into form, but he looked very good in his last outing.
And so I think they're pretty set in the starting rotation except for Quinn Priester.
I think was making his major league debut last time I was on the show.
I did okay against the Rockies, but they're terrible.
So he's been kind of the weak link.
He's gotten beaten up a little bit lately.
losing you know taking two out of three from Houston's okay.
The pitching I think I trust to round into form as a whole.
The bullpen's been pretty good.
The starters who we actually trust and are going to be there the whole year have been pretty good.
Freddie Peralta's been outstanding.
He was outstanding in his last start.
I think he threw a shout out.
It's just that they need to get healthy.
So they're okay there The hitting is I think the big concern for the Brewers going forward and has been a concern in this series too The lineup they put out yesterday was very very funny Isaac Collins was hitting third and that should honestly never happen again But the big the big news for the Brewers there's I would say two big things that are not going well one is William Contreras has been playing with a broken finger
and he's been playing through it and he hasn't been atrocious.
He's actually been really good defensively, but it's definitely sapped him of a lot of power.
The big huge William Contreras skill is actually hitting the ball hard.
He hits the ball harder when he's healthy than basically anybody else in baseball.
It's on the ground a little more than you'd like, but it's really hard when he gets in the air, it goes out of the park.
This year he's in the 30th percentile in terms of hard hit balls.
That finger has definitely been impacting his offense and his plan is to play through it.
Bones do heal even if you're playing baseball.
Hopefully in the second half of the season we'll start to see that come back But I think that they've lost kind of a big bat for the foreseeable future until that does actually heal up and I do wonder if a short stint on the DL might help Speed that along a little bit.
The other big thing is Jackson Shurio He walked twice yesterday that doubled his season total of walks and he has
made a conscious decision to swing at the first pitch more than he did last year.
I think people early in the season were just throwing him fastballs, which he's getting hitting.
Pictures have adjusted to Jackson at this point and are throwing him still fastballs, but not down the middle anymore Like they're locating them a lot better.
He is not adjusted back yet Maybe those two walks yesterday are kind of the start of something but his offense has been way down I think we've all expected him to be kind of at least an above average hitter He's been exactly average as of this point in time and if they're going to actually seriously contend
They're 19 and 19, like the whole rest of the division.
They're a 500 team right now.
They need Jackson Churio to be an actual star, and they need Contreras to actually play like he usually does.
So that offense is in a rough shape right now.
Partially, it's injuries.
They can adjust a little bit, but they do need to actually see some improvement there if they're going to actually be with the Cubs.
The Cubs are having their best season in quite some time.
If you're just joining us, Paul Noonan is our guest.
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I want to go back to is a contraris that has the broken finger.
I mean, I give him a lot of respect for wanting to tough his way through it.
But that doesn't... How on earth can you expect your finger to heal if you're still playing?
Does he have a splint on it?
He's got padding on it and I think a splint or some kind of like soft cast on it.
Yes, but that position in particular Your hands even even you're not I actually forget which hand it is that's actually broken But it kind of doesn't matter just in the catching position you deal with just a lot of trauma to your hands right?
Contreras is a warrior for sure, but
the team could actually do a much better job managing him generally.
They've given him more time off this year, I think partially because of the broken finger, but it was he and William Domus last year who basically insisted on playing every day.
And I think to their detriment, you know, there's something to be said for the warrior mentality of being out there every day, but baseball's a long season and guys wear down if they don't have regular days off, catchers especially wear down if they don't have regular days off.
And it's definitely, I think,
hurt him.
Uh, I wish his agent would get in his ear a little bit about length of his career because that's what ultimately comes to this.
I guess the thing I'm wondering is, um, can't the coach just bench him?
Can't the coach just say, look, you're taking, you got to sit out.
I mean, you see, you see, you see, I actually have two questions.
One, you see players all the time with, Oh, so and so has mild rib.
you know, tension or pain or there, it seems like a very mild case of something, but they're going to take 10 days off to let it heal correctly.
How does a coach, anyone on that organization in the upper management say, no, William, you're sitting down, you have to let this heal or it's going to be damaged forever, damaging your career.
And as you said, shortening it.
Yeah.
It's a tough balance because, uh,
It is, first of all, the job of the manager to be the responsible professional in the room.
And I live, counsel, two years ago, I always liked, but he would let people get away with a little too much, I think, in terms of playing through injuries.
And Murphy, I think, is a weird...
Weird players manager will where he will hold people accountable and have closed-door meetings and pull some of his favorites to send a message But I do think he's a little old school in letting guys play through hurt and injury He is not going to do like NBA style load management for the most part if guys think they can go
Yeah, the other question I have is you know, you look at the MLB standings right now in the National League Central and though
Cardinals, Reds and Brewers have the same exact win loss and they're all at 500.
We're still at fourth place in the standings.
When's the last time the Brewers been in fourth place like this?
It's been quite a while, especially this late into the season.
I mean, discounting, you know, early season slumps and things like that.
And it really does show like this is not the same caliber of team.
that we have had recently like they went into the season with a giant hole at third base don't look at the stats of brewers third baseman by the way they are uh they're scarily bad Vinny Capra is legitimately the worst player in major league baseman right now and he's all ours and he is all ours and Caleb Durbin at least is not uh that's level of bad but
He's not really a true third baseman.
Oliver Dunn, I think that experiment is over.
They really did themselves a disservice by not shoring up at least a decent player at every position.
Like this is, the pitching is fine.
I think the bullpen will be fine, but the offense is just not a upper level major league offense at all.
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Rumors are flying in Green Bay about JR Alexander.
What's going on with that?
Yep, I think everybody was pretty surprised that they didn't come out of the draft with a major upgrade at cornerback, which is JR's position.
They did take Michael Robinson in the seventh round, but that's a seventh round pick.
Alexander has been both injured, and I think it's been sort of an open secret to both the team and everybody who covers the Packers.
Not happy with something about the Packers.
I would put
gyre into the weird guy category.
And weird guys are sometimes unpredictable.
And I think there is at least speculation that some of his time sitting out last year was not so much due to injury, injury as maybe not wanting to aggravate some stuff as much so you can be healthy for his next contract, maybe having some philosophical disagreements.
But
Now we are getting to push comes to shove time for Jair Alexander and I do wonder if the Packers are maybe going to win a game of chicken here So here's the thing with Alexander rumors have been now floating that he is amenable to coming back at a reduced salary and if you're wondering why he might do that now that the season is rolling around The way that Jair Alexander's contract is structured is he's still under contract for two more seasons, but
Over those two more seasons, there's only about 10 million dollars of guaranteed money.
Most of what Alexander is owed, and it's a lot, is in base salary.
It's like 22 million this year and 27 million next year, but as everybody knows about NFL contracts, base salary is not guaranteed.
The only thing that is guaranteed in an NFL contract is signing bonus, and you can write it in to guarantee base salary sometimes, but not for him.
So
He is a very likely salary cap cut if he's going to be a malcontent.
And if he becomes a free agent, malcontents don't get paid as much as all pro level corners who've just played 16 games.
So it may very well be in his best interest to come back with the understanding that it's one year left on whatever he renegotiates for lower salary as best both interests.
best interest of him, the Packers as well, who need cornerbacks, frankly, with a sort of understood that he's going to be shown the door at the end of this season.
Hopefully he'll have a good contract year.
We like good contract years.
He'll get paid somewhere else.
But I think it's pretty likely he comes back at this point because it's in his own best self-interest to do so if he's going to actually maximize what he makes on the free agent market after he is released.
Now, the Packers can still just cut him outright.
$10 million in guaranteed money is not that much.
There's a little extra with roster bonuses and stuff like that.
But they do hold some leverage here because they can just show him the door and he's got to go find a new team to play with.
And people are signing their draft picks.
Most free agents are already signed.
Nobody's got a ton of cap space to pay Jair Alexander a ton of money.
So I think he'll be back.
And I think that's probably a net good, because I think he'll be motivated to actually be on the field and show other teams what he can still do.
In just the couple of minutes we have left, I did want to give a shout out to Yanis Anticompo and his daughter, who star in a new Huggies commercial.
I don't know if you had a chance to see this, Paul.
Kevin, we have just a little clip.
There's not a lot of audio to, or there's not a lot of dialogue to play, but we have a little clip from this commercial.
It's Yanis and she's got to be not even two.
That
sounds like a tiny, tiny baby child.
She's
not
even
two and she's on the basketball court with him and she's doing push-ups.
She's trying to do push-ups with him and all this.
It is
so cute.
Sport stars, huggies.
It's so Yanis.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
And what's great is that Huggies is going to make a big donation to their diaper charity, which is pretty cool.
I think Huggies is donating like $100,000.
But we're going to include that commercial in our show notes.
If you just want 30 seconds where you can go, ah, that's so cute.
The world's on fire, but this is adorable.
A little
bit of.
We all need that, right?
Yes.
Yeah, it's just like the best off court personality.
We're so lucky to have him.
What other NBA star is doing diaper commercials with his cute baby daughter?
Absolutely.
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The Acme packing company.
Thank you so much, Paul.
We'll see you in a couple.
Stay close.
We're going to wrap up the show with this shouldn't be a thing.
Drinks on me edition.
This is Matt Nair on air on the Civic Media Radio Network.
We'll be right back.
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Ginseng,
Wisconsin, that's a big export.
I didn't know
that until a few years ago.
Yes, Wisconsin is a huge ginseng grower.
We're like number one in the country, I believe.
And now that we're not playing nice with China, or China's not playing nice with us, they're having problems exporting their ginseng.
So we'll sue checking in as we find out the ramifications of the Trump tariffs.
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This shouldn't be a thing
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Florida's back baby.
Florida guy, thank you very much.
Haley Coombs with the byline on this, the headline reads, man offers vodka spritz to Florida deputies after Chase.
Richard Christopher Smith, 39, attempted to evade capture.
A Florida man facing charges after he offered Highland County deputies an alcoholic beverage during a pursuit, according to the sheriff's department.
On a Saturday, deputies said the 39-year-old stole several items, including several alcoholic beverages out of the Spring Lake Market.
Shortly before deputies got there, they said Smith jumped into a black minivan, driving circles around the store.
Which one does right after you've stolen something
in Florida?
Yeah, and then sped off launching a pursuit that ended several miles later in the parking lot of a different business during the pursuit authorities say The suspect held a can of kettle one vodka spritz out the window as he drove past a deputy who was trying to stop him Telling the deputy I was just gonna give you a drink
Smith then tried to ram two patrol vehicles in the midst of getting all four tires flattened by those strips that they put down.
Smith was officially tased and charged with two counts of aggravated assault on law enforcement, battery on an officer, two counts of resisting arrest, DUI, refusal to submit to a DUI, and petty theft.
I just I just wife is giving you a drink buddy
office.
I know you're hard job.
It's hard.
I just And you gotta watch your calorie.
That's why I got a spritz.
It's low calorie.
It's no carbs
We really haven't had a good Florida man story in a while
Ben a moment, but Calvin came through for us with this particular man who by the way in the story that will be in the show notes There is body cam footage.
Of course there is
but it's just I mean
Thank you, Florida.
That's all I gotta say.
Thank you, Florida.
Again, the golden phrase here in this article, during the pursuit, Deputy Smith held out a can of Kettle One vodka spritz out his window as he drove past a deputy who was trying to get him a stop, telling the deputy, I was just trying to give you a drink.
I think that's still illegal.
But...
Very, very nice.
Like, you know, when someone comes over to the house, you want to make sure you have charcuterie bar, maybe a glass of wine.
He was just being neighborly and welcoming.
A good host, as it were.
That wraps up today's episode
of...
This shouldn't be a thing.
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There's been a lot going on.
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