A Wisconsin Arm Wrestling Showdown

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A Wisconsin Arm Wrestling Showdown

Maino and the Mayor · Thu Apr 24, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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John Maino

John Minow, and Jim Schmidt.

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Welcome back.

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WI assessment, Appleton.

where it is 53 degrees this morning, 52 in Green Bay, 51 in Oshkosh, morning showers, cloudy high of 60 today.

But you know what?

It is the NFL Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin, Northeast Wisconsin.

We are excited about it.

We're not going to complain about anything.

And I just got, I just, I just, I forgot about what we got going on today.

I was going to wear something that wasn't so tight so I could arm wrestle we here.

Yeah.

Um, was the Wisconsin arm wrestling, um, president, uh, and I just can't be cut and then, then plus the shoulder injury they have

to

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shrapnel and stuff.

But anyway, Lee Biden, how are you doing?

Good morning, guys.

Good

morning.

This is, this is cool.

This is cause everybody arm wrestles, right?

Oh yeah.

Everybody.

I mean, for different things.

This is like the real deal though.

Yep.

This is a Wisconsin state championships.

We're doing it at the Oshkosh arena this Saturday state championship.

So what do you have to do to get like get there?

Do

you have to qualify?

It's open to anybody.

All arm wrestling events are pretty much open to anybody throughout the whole world.

And age, weight class?

How does that work?

Well, we run several different divisions.

We have a kid's division, and we take the littlest person out there that wants to get up on the

John Maino

table.

You have female too, right?

Oh, yes.

John Maino

I've done stories on some of the female arm wrestlers.

mind boggling strong.

They go against the guys or is it?

They go women win,

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but they could make so much money going into bars and saying,

I bet you five

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dollars, I could beat you in arm wrestling.

And when they

know

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what they're doing, cause there's more, there's technique that you might not realize.

You think I'm a big tough guy.

It's

all technique.

It's 99% technique over strength.

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And those women really have 130 pounds and they could put down a 250 pound guy.

Amazing.

Wisconsin has some very talented women wrestlers.

John Maino

Yes.

Um, Daniel Everson and, uh, Shawna Wagner, uh, Brittany Heyhurst, they're right, um, out of Appleton.

So

how fun is

that?

Yeah.

Amazing.

And actually two of the, two of the girls are going to be down at in all women's event down south.

I don't remember exactly where it's at, but.

So this is happening in Oshkosh.

That's the Saturday this

Saturday state state championships

pre-register.

Nope.

Just show up and show up before the time limits Kids could wrestle at 10 o'clock.

So you got to be there by 9 30 to register We have super matches.

We have I believe like 10 super matches where somebody calls somebody out Wow, we have Ron the legend bath Which is actually he's originally from the Wabino area now down in Georgia.

He's one of the

He's one of the legends of arm wrestling.

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Do you guys do it weight wise or anything?

We have

seven weight classes, but it's in like kilograms.

We don't know.

Yeah.

Is

John Maino

that I hate that.

Well, because

John Maino

it's an international system of weights and measurements.

No one knows.

We don't we didn't understand that when you sent it to us.

So tell us about what the weight classes

are.

So, um.

There's a seven weight classes for the amateurs in the open, starting at 63 kilograms, going up to 105 kilograms.

105 is basically a 231.

231

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pounds.

Yep.

Okay.

And, uh,

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but this is a kind of business or business, kind of a sport though.

Weight doesn't really matter as much as some of the other things we were talking about, right?

As far as with the technique and how to, you know, get the advantage over somebody.

Well, when it, when it turns out to be a tournament like this, weight does make a big difference.

Okay.

Because the guys,

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but all I'm saying is being in bars in the U.P.

When guys with arm wrestling, you could have a guy 160 pounds who will humiliate some guy.

He'll destroy the whole bar.

Exactly.

He'll destroy the whole bar.

John Maino

Yeah.

Well, if they know what they're doing.

Yeah.

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If

they know what they're doing.

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Yeah.

And there's there's quite a few of them up there.

John Maino

Yeah.

You've been to bars in the U.P.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

We do some tournaments and up in Iron Mountain.

John Maino

Oh, no kidding.

Yeah.

Oh, you get some of those pizons up there.

They're crazy.

Yep.

There's a group up.

There's a group training group up there actually in Iron Mountain.

Um, Christmas scale runs that and they're great group of guys.

They'll be down here this weekend.

Does somebody walk around like a bookie and do there might be.

I don't know anything about that.

I stay away

from

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that.

What

can people

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win at your tournament?

It's

just, it's just the words.

Okay.

It's just top four, top four in each weight division,

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but that's gotta be a pretty cool thing to say.

I'm the state champion arm wrestler.

Yeah, that is cool.

And we have a few national champions here in Wisconsin, so they'll be here competing.

So how long have you been doing this?

I started arm wrestling back in 1980.

Wow.

OK, so that's been a while.

I'm always curious as to what changes have you seen?

I mean, is it demographics?

Is it bigger than it was?

It's so much bigger than what it was.

I mean, just the development through social media.

Right.

It has just,

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do you remember in wide roll, the sports used to cover the arm wrestling championships and that guy got his arms

snapped.

Do you remember that?

I see about four or five broken arms a year.

Really?

Wow.

Is that because of the start or does that happen like in the middle of the

normally, normally the guy turns away from his hand.

You're supposed to look at your hand the whole time you're wrestling.

And if he turns away from it, takes the pressure off the forearm, puts it on the bicep.

It only takes about seven pounds of pressure to snap the bone.

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I'm going to say that again.

As far as looking, why does that?

So when your arm rustling, you want to look at your hand.

You want to stay looking at your hand because that'll keep your shoulders square to your hand.

And when you look away, you know, you're trying to pull and it's just, it's human habit and human nature to look away from it and take your whole body into your arm and it takes the pressure off the forearm, puts it on the bicep and the bicep will take the bone and just snap it right in half.

Wow.

Wow.

Well John you have to look at her It's a gruesome sound it is it completely silence is the whole room you had two of them last year at state tournament

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Wow

the same guy

Broke two different people's arms.

Holy crap.

One right, one left.

Is he a local?

Is he a local guy?

Yeah, he is.

And just a complete free.

We don't want him coming into

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our

studio.

This guy's only like 165 pounds.

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That's the part that's, it's amazing.

And Michael, you seem like you know about this, huh?

A

little bit, but I mean, I'm not an armor player by any means.

Not anymore.

But have they ever considered making it an Olympic sport?

They have tried and tried and tried.

Yeah.

Um, but there's too many different organizations out there that have little niches to their rules and designs that are tables and they're just too many differences.

If the world of arm wrestling would become completely organized, we'd be in the Olympics at a heartbeat.

I honestly believe that.

Wow.

John Maino

Yeah.

Cause it seems like that'd be an international.

I would have

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thought.

Yeah.

I would think

so.

There's, there's, there's an East.

Versus West series out there right now and there's there's so many different series out there I mean you can you can Google it and you'll you'll find arm wrestling all

over the world.

You wouldn't think there's a lot of variations though, right?

It seems like you're right, but I'm sure

you put your

elbow on the pad grab the other guy's hand.

It's not that simple.

No, it's not

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Wow, my brother always tells the story.

They used to crash weddings him and his buddy who turned to my brother and then go into wedding they take like

Boxes wrapped with nothing.

They're bringing like a phone book to drink for free and chase women and and they got busted and there was this real tough family The barracks

Okay, all right, go ahead.

Okay,

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but they're a hillbill.

I mean they were just violators.

They were terrible They got they got a sign on front of their place, you know

We'll be

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shot without questions asked just so you know But whatever so they crashed their wedding dad is it and the guy said you know what?

Alarm wrestle you if I beat you you're not walking out of here.

You're gonna be carried out of here

And my brother beat him in arm wrestling and he's to this day.

So that's his greatest feat achievement in his life.

Cause they literally said, you're going to be carried out you and your buddy for crashing our wedding and drinking our beer for free.

So arm wrestling used to be a real thing.

That was like the gun, right?

It is exactly.

Wasn't it though?

Oh

yeah.

Oh yeah.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

John Maino

How did you get to be such a river state champ?

I have a 26 national titles through wrist wrestling.

Well, what does that mean?

So wrist wrestling is a little bit different and that's an action in Wisconsin.

That's how we started Instead of having the peg on the table you would hold hands in the center of the table bring the arm bring the hand down to the forearm Right.

That's right.

And that's basically what you do in the bars.

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How long do you think I could last against you?

I'll give you a couple of minutes.

I want to make sure you start sweating first.

Right.

I'll

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give you.

That's

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awesome.

Why are we asking the

question?

Why are we finding out?

Just told her.

We're doing fundraiser.

How many seconds could my know last?

Well, no, you bet on this guy because he's easy to control the whole meat.

So yeah.

They go with the over under under a

second.

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Wow.

Thank you,

Michael.

Wow.

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So disappointing, Michael.

I'm sorry.

I mean,

John Maino

if somebody wants to get involved with this, like what kind of training do you do curls in the weight room or what?

What's how do you get to be a good arm wrestler?

There's specific lifts you can do.

I honestly believe table time is superior to the weightlifting itself.

It's getting your tendons and joints and your muscles to remember the positions on the table and the pulling on the table.

But there's so much technique into it and learning how to curl your wrist the right direction and feel what

you know, oppose what the other guy is doing to you.

And we're

John Maino

with Lee Bonnet, Wisconsin arm wrestling president.

Great, great competition coming up on Sunday.

Saturday.

John Maino

I'm so sorry.

Saturday, the state tournament in Oshkosh at the Oshkosh arena.

It's $10 for how much is it to enter the competition?

Tell me that, but then tell me, does this become a spectator sport or is this?

Oh,

yeah, this is definitely a spectator sport.

And that's why we're going to the arena.

We're in Oshkosh arena and it's

We've got 5,000 seating, people seating

there.

Really

nice.

Wow.

This is our biggest venue ever we're doing this tournament at.

Some

of these guys get their little groupies that follow.

Oh

yes.

Oh yes, absolutely.

And this event also is helping out the Christine and domestic abuse

services.

We're going to have

some vendors.

We're going to have some vendors there.

Right.

Selling all kinds of different stuff, you know, and just come on in.

The concession stands will be open.

They'll be, you know, arena be selling food and beer and alcohol.

And

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let me just see how you would do

it.

John.

John Maino

Okay, that hurts already.

Okay, that's so hard.

Do this on a Friday so we got the weekend to recover.

Okay,

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so

if you,

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if you, if you got my hand bent that way, I'm done, right?

That's called a

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top

roll.

John Maino

That's called what?

Top roll.

Talking to the microphone, right?

Don't make me kick your butt here.

Nope.

This is a top roll.

John Maino

That's a top roll.

If

we curl this way.

I'm

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done.

That's a hook.

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And the person's done then, right?

Well, you got to get down that far.

But I mean, how can you come back from that?

You don't have any more strength left, right?

It's all how you

work your hand.

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You got to be working it, working it around.

But it's bending the person's wrist like the first thing you want to do.

It's whoever gets the most advantage off the start when the referee says go.

Right.

Who gets the jump.

That's

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what I

mean.

And then we get the most inertia going.

OK.

It's hard to recover.

But man, there's going to be some matches you're going to see that might go two minutes.

John Maino

Really?

The average, the average match

is seven seconds.

John Maino

Really?

Seven seconds?

That's amazing.

I was like 12 with you just now and you were doing your best.

That's

all I can say.

John Maino

This is so cool.

I would love to see this.

Lee, I'm not kidding.

This sounds great.

Doesn't it

John Maino

Michael?

It's very, very cool.

The

kids, the kids and the special abilities will start at 10 o'clock on Saturday.

Our super matches will be at noon.

One o'clock will be the amateurs and the masters.

The masters is 40 and we have 40 and over 50 and over 60 over divisions.

And then the premier event, the open, women's and men's open will be at 3 p.m.

Phenomenal.

Over 60.

Yeah.

John Maino

Wow.

I've

got

a

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handful.

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Thursday we bought it Wisconsin arm wrestling president big event taking place on Saturday at the Oshkosh Arena

Did you have that in high school of this?

I'd be honest with you Johnny.

I didn't really know of this

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of arm wrestling

not tournaments and no That's pretty cool.

I

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remember

watching

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the sport and that guy had his arm broke Yeah,

remember that the only time I ever ever been involved in arm.

Sorry an arm wrestling has been After going out drinking right

Well, Michael, you said

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you're going to be training.

What was your training regimen

for tonight?

Well, my training, I'm going to get to the draft at two.

Right.

And then I'm going to do 20-ounce lifts to about seven.

OK.

And you know, those Miller light lifts.

And then you and I will catch up at seven, and we're going to wrestle,

arm

wrestle,

or maybe

even just wrestle.

I don't

John Maino

think anyone wants to see

that.

I don't

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either.

I gotta be honest with you.

I don't.

I don't.

So we're going to have Mike Clem.

We got Pat Tracy coming up to discover Oshkosh, which of course where the arm wrestling thing is going to be.

We got Mike Clemens, who is Civic Media.

He's our sports director for the whole company.

And Mike is very dedicated.

dedicated to the point where he is sleeping here at the stage.

Are we not supposed to say that because it's illegal?

Didn't you say that?

I did.

I'm sorry.

No, he wasn't sleeping.

He was just

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taking

a break.

He was taking a break.

He worked all night here.

John Maino

Yes.

Yes.

Oh, Lee's looking at me like he wants to beat me up.

You know, it's one of those things, though, too, with the Packard Trafford.

We were talking about this, too, Michael.

And I mean, you've been...

invested in it for a year.

We have two.

But again, we get people asking about it.

It's like, again, folks, we don't know.

We're just going to show up and see what it's all about because we've never been to one before.

Yeah.

I mean, I think that there's so many things going on for, for all ages.

Yeah.

I love the fact there's a huge family element baked in, which is great.

I mean, there's a 40 yard dash.

We could, we could do that too.

We could, we could dash.

Yeah.

She,

John Maino

no, I'm in training until I race that cow.

So I'm not

going to do any competition.

My, my, my really good friend Chris is coming up from Chicago.

He and I have had a, a bat where, you know, we're going to do a hundred.

$1,000 for the winner.

Are you kidding or are you serious?

Well, I'm dead serious, but I haven't raced him yet because I've had my bad hip.

$1,000?

$1,000?

I told him I could easily beat him in a 100-yard dash, and he's like, no, no way, no way, no way.

And I said, I promised you I could.

I said, let's bet on it.

It's $1,000.

So I have to work my body back into shape.

And then I'm going to race him.

What

year is that 100-yard

dash?

The Packers host the draft.

Oh, nice.

Thanks, guys.

No, no, I'm within the next six months.

So we're both we're all we're both turning 60 this this this year, too.

So I'm turning 60 in July.

OK, that's 60.

I just know you don't be honest.

That's good.

You get that.

Do I

John Maino

look 60?

No,

thank you.

No, you look like you look 70, 75.

But you

John Maino

know, if somebody asked me,

OK.

Back it up, Mino.

What did you ask?

Do I look 60?

Yeah, you shouldn't have said that.

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I saw a thing in my face.

OK, Todd.

Enough.

I saw a thing in our Facebook for my class reunion.

Dan Shafer

Yeah,

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and I put a thing on there about whatever and and somebody said I saw mine on TV.

He's looking older than all of us

Well, I saw that picture that one lady

everyone ages differently.

I mean

that one

lady They'll look like the lunchroom that one lady looked a lot older in you.

Why do you think I'm using that bomb?

How's that going

good?

Yeah

Is it?

You know, I've seen that bomb before on Facebook ads.

Yeah.

And it's that tallow

bomb.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah.

And I've thought

about buying it.

And I actually saved it on my phone.

I've got it.

I got some.

But I just don't know if it.

It's it's helped me.

No, so I don't I don't need that much of it because I do have a very young complexion You do but that's that's my Greek blood.

That's my I'm adopted so my biological parents are from Greece Oh, that's my Mediterranean.

I didn't know that my Mediterranean blood.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, that's very cool.

John Maino

Yeah,

so

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wow

All right.

Well, whatever.

Tough day for me here.

Well, your eyes are so dark under your eyes that we just catching up with you.

Why?

John Maino

It's those bad attacks.

There's one part of Italy where everybody's eyes are just, it's terrible.

I got it.

Earlier this week, I just want to throw this out because I just got a message.

We had DeLorean Walls on.

They had a fundraiser last night at First & Goal, raising food for the local colleges.

Their goal was 1,000 pounds, right?

Um, well over 2000.

Wow.

That's phenomenal.

Love it.

Again, another individual doing something cool in our community.

Absolutely.

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Those are the kind of people we want to hype as much

as humanly

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possible.

Yeah, I saw.

That's cool.

Yeah.

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Great guy.

It helps all three colleges, right?

Norbert's, GB and TC.

Yeah, that's good.

John Maino

Yeah.

No, good stuff.

Love it.

Love it.

Love

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it.

Hey, Mike, I got to ask one more question about with the Packard Draft and you simple life hospitality.

You guys

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are literally worldwide.

Right.

Well, no, I was a company.

Yeah.

No, we rent mostly here in Wisconsin.

We have a few homes in Florida.

And we are actually looking right now at expanding potentially into Winter Park, Colorado, and also Joshua Tree in California.

So really, really cool.

The reason

John Maino

I bring that up, because people have talked about, you know what I've talked about that.

And, you know, like, I remember when we're going to rent a place in Nashville one time and it felt whatever, whatever.

But if people, you know, for summer vacations, wherever they're going, they could contact you and say, hey, I got an Airbnb in Yadda Yadda, right?

Yeah, we yeah, typically we won't take on just one home in a new destination.

But

but but we are we are starting to look to expand outside the area because there are opportunities.

We're going to we're actually in a few weeks, we're going to have a meeting with a company.

We're going to do a big project down outside of Nashville.

on the Tennessee River, high-end luxury glamping, dome homes and tiny homes.

Has

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Nashville become like the

Mecca in the country?

It's booming.

It's booming.

It's unbelievable.

It's unbelievable what's happening there.

So we're looking into a lot of different things.

But this is our base.

This is our home.

This is where we, the company started where Wendy and Scott Salt started it back up in Door County.

And that's, you know what?

That's our baby.

And we love Door County.

And it's great.

It's like security.

You're like, you're looking at

him.

That whole scene was.

improvised.

And he said, make sure you don't call it ad lib.

It's improvisation.

It was quite a process that Martin Scorsese put us through over a few days that it would come out like that.

It wasn't just like, hey, how you doing?

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Now, back to Mino and the Mayor.

Here's John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

John Maino

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

Mino and Michael and the Mayor.

I'm not exactly friendly with the former mayor right now, after what he said to me.

Break

what was that what he said?

He would not

John Maino

feel the slightest bit of sympathy.

No

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sympathy if this rattlesnake that's not never want to ever bit me in the face

Can I just say this though in in Jim's defense?

Thank you You were teasing a rattlesnake.

Not really teasing.

Four times he went out first.

He didn't just took a picture

Then he got some tissue in my vessel.

They went got a coat hanger and was hitting the back of them.

I said Johnny

those of us who you read about these things this guy with the camera I want to take a selfie with the with with like the moose or something gets it closer and closer and then the moose eats them people are like yeah he deserved it the lady with the polar bear

yeah come on I mean that lady who just recently was like come on it's no people

Pat

I'm with the mayor on this.

Oh,

wow.

Wow.

I've never heard Patrick say that.

Oh, I know.

Thank you.

Words that

John Maino

have never

been uttered

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on this show.

I agree with the mayor.

Wow.

Love it, Pat.

Anyway,

hey, Pat,

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are you going to be part of the state arm wrestling competition in Oshkosh Saturday?

I am.

I am so.

Excited that you guys were talking about it.

And I had to drive over here to the studio.

And so I missed the actual moves that

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he was doing.

It's all technique.

He actually told me, he says, oh my God, for your age, you are you dominate.

You just you said you come into the competition.

I said, well, I got the draft going on and everything.

So.

I can't do

a little humor.

He wanted to add to the tournament.

I was so excited that you had the arm wrestler guys in there because we are super excited in Oshkosh about bringing this event to the arena.

Right.

As they said, it's their biggest venue and it's exactly the kind of events that we're trying to do in Oshkosh to just, you know, bring the community in and it's really a family.

fun day.

And you'll see, you know, there's so much to do over there with the little vendors and all that.

And the kids can run up and down the bleachers until they tire themselves out.

So that's fun.

And the money

proceeds go to a nonprofit, which is always a good thing for Oshkosh.

Christine Ann Center.

Yes, our domestic abuse housing shelter.

So that's always good.

And

he said it's becoming quite the spectator sport,

which I think is really cool.

People, I'm going to see some on Saturday.

So I'll let you guys know.

Well, I thought you were participating.

Yeah, you said you're pretty big.

Oh, no, I know what

happened there.

I would be participating on the sidelines

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with a

with a glass of

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beverages

on the clock.

John Maino

Hey, I got to tell you something and we're talking about this and we had so much fun with our craft beer and everything over the last few months.

It had so much fun.

Congratulations on Todd's favorite hangout.

being selected as the dive bar in the country.

Right, Pat?

Yes.

Pete's garage bar.

Yeah.

Best dive bar in the United States.

How cool

is

that?

Those

of you who are Pete's garage bar Facebook fans, Pete's has now set his sights on best dive bar on planet

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Earth.

Do other countries have dive bar you've

traveled more than any I don't know.

They have dive bars.

Yeah, there's there's like, yeah, just divey old restaurants, but not a dive bar where like you walk in and you get a shot and a beer for 85 cents.

Yeah, nothing like that.

Okay.

No, no, no, no.

So I

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just kind of the hub of the dive bar world.

I mean, it literally put us on the dive bar man.

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That's awesome.

It's like there's dive bar tourism, guys.

Really know

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I know one pet pet.

I don't know how much time I got left on this world I'm gonna be honest with I think the clock It's like I'm on the clock with the draft you got but one of my goals in life is to own a dive bar

You know, I that's my goal in life

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and live on stairs of it

Today that's what on wants to do and my wife Dawn.

She's always

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She's already contacted me

Stay away.

She wants to go partners with me.

Yeah.

Today, you know, it's funny because Todd sends us yesterday, like the syllabus, what we have to do today.

Today is bucket list day.

So Johnny, is that on your bucket list?

Yes.

That's top of my bucket list.

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Own

a dive bar.

Own a dive bar.

I think that would be pretty cool that I could live in live upstairs.

I don't know about living upstairs.

Oh, yeah, I've always

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wanted upstairs more because

I'm not the only one would be pretty cool I

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used to actually for one summer.

I was hired I used to clean up a bar Toriano's bar in Nagani and But at Sunday mornings right after church I'd go there and the coolest thing because I would play pool by myself and play the jukebox

And

it was like,

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oh my God, this is

heaven.

I think, I mean, I live in Madison, as you know, and there's some amazing dive bars in Madison too.

But the atmosphere and going in and get a really ice cold Miller High Life Champagne of beers.

Absolutely.

I mean, delicious.

Absolutely.

Or a bottle of Schlitz.

I mean, come on.

Could not agree more.

Come on.

Could not

agree

more.

The best.

You want to be partners?

Uh, to be determined.

Okay, think about it, though.

I mean, maybe, maybe Jim's got to be involved.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

It's a big day.

Big day.

Michael,

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I

want to be your Joshua.

I want to be your Joshua tree guy.

John Maino

Hey, Joshua.

What

an

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incredible talk to this guy about what he does around the country.

What

are you?

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Yeah,

not around the country yet.

We're getting there.

We're getting there.

But but no, we have we have some interesting locations.

We're looking at.

But I'll tell you, if you have never been to Joshua tree,

yeah, I don't go in the summer.

Right.

Absolutely one of the most spiritually

Grounded incredible places in the world.

It is it is magnificent.

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You know, Pat, you know, whenever I come to Oshkosh to do our show, I always get lost.

I shouldn't say lost.

I like transversing the city.

You we've

we've we've we've we've

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we've there are some absolutely stunningly beautiful big old homes in downtown Oshkosh.

Oh, yeah.

Aren't they all Pat?

Yeah, like the Victorian, the ladies and all that stuff.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Why is it?

Why is it hard for you to to Oshkosh?

Don't you just get off by the lion's den there?

And you know, you know, that exit landmark.

Hey, John, we're done with

him.

John, please.

Number six is open.

Thanks.

All right.

Michael, we don't know why John can't get off the exit to Oshkosh.

Some genetic thing.

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You know what happened that one time with Jim and I?

I heard.

Yeah.

We're almost to Milwaukee.

I heard.

Yeah.

We're 40 miles from Milwaukee.

No comment.

Yes.

Well, we're no comment.

44 miles from driving, Jim.

Well, we're

talking.

So can we I prepared some draft content?

Okay.

Can I tell you guys a funny story?

Nope.

So in Oshkosh, we are we did a partnership with Appleton box cities, Visitors Bureau, and we did this giant national contest.

And we were going to give away one trip to we gave away two trips to the draft.

Okay, so two winners get to bring a guest.

So the Oshkosh trip winner is a Cleveland Browns fan.

Okay.

And he's coming with his brother.

And I'm all excited because I'm thinking that in my role as the Oshkosh ambassador, the tour guide, you never knew you needed, they're going to want me to like welcome this guy to Oshkosh and show him around.

No.

Nobody will leave on Brown's guy.

They do not want him to get waylaid on his way to the draft today, because I'm like,

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let me

show

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the bars.

Yeah, yeah, I could see that.

No, that

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no disrespect.

I could see you being a way laying kind of guy.

Like if somebody decides to hang out with you, you're going to take them to all these cool bars is cool stuff.

I could see you.

I could see you being that guy.

And so I was a little upset until I read the draft order.

And he's got the number two pick.

So like these guys are going to be there tonight on a all expense paid trip, courtesy of Discover Oshkosh.

They're staying at the hotel here and they're going to, you know, get them up there today and be there in the front row when they're Cleveland Brown.

Shooter

Sanders.

Wow.

Yeah.

You think?

Super exciting.

Is that who they think?

No, Travis Hunter.

Travis Hunter.

You don't think he'll be first?

No.

No, no, no.

You still think Cam is going to be first?

Yeah, I think Travis Hunter is going to be, well, unless the Browns trade that pick, which you never know, but he's kind of that once in a lifetime.

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Yeah, he's almost like a Deodd Sanders what he used to be.

Yeah, where you put him in any position.

Well, he said he wants to play both

sides.

I don't think that's going to happen.

And you know what?

With the

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NFL, you get so beat up after a couple of games like that.

You know, that's a heck of a prize you gave

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them.

That is a path.

That's

an amazing

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prize.

Yeah.

Yeah, we're trying to put Oshkosh on the map and we had

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put us on the map.

We take the seats.

Hey, we're in the back.

Yeah.

Wow.

We had 4,000 entries from all over the country.

And so, you know, now that gives us an opportunity to market, you know, on the along with the draft and come and visit the.

It's a phenomenal price

that it's a phenomenal price.

Well, it helps.

I mean, we the city didn't do that.

No, Todd, why charge of the city?

What's.

Oh my gosh.

Let's do a contest, you guys.

And some lucky winner gets like to come in the studio and do something with us.

We tried that.

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They

had to get a t-shirt or a coffee cup and not have

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to sit in the studio

with us.

Pat got, Josh got 4,000.

We got four

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entries.

Michael, tell them it's not as fun as you think.

Pat,

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I'll give

you a lot of

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crates

for that.

That's a good one.

It's fine.

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Being here is a great time.

What else going on in Oshkosh, Pat?

And we said this a thousand times, but we so enjoy coming down to your city.

We really and truly do.

We want to embrace Oshkosh.

Well, thank you.

And we're embracing you today because we've got two of our bars here in Oshkosh have shuttles up to the draft every day.

So

the bar,

which is obviously, you know, a big part of our life.

You know, they do this.

all season long.

So you can go to the bar in Oshkosh on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, and they've got a shuttle.

And I want to say theirs is like 65 bucks.

What a deal,

right?

They drop you off at the bar, you know, so you've got a little home base up there.

And then our new ex golf place, which is really cool.

And that's going to we're going to do a discover Oshkosh ex golf, you know, it's a giant indoor golf driving facility.

But it's also like a little country club thing in there.

So they're doing round trip, uh, to the, to the draft to back.

They've got a hundred dollar package, but it's got food and everything.

So if you're in Oshkosh and looking to go up there, uh, this weekend, you've got some good choices.

Just go to discover Oshkosh.com

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and look for it.

And it's the Bar in Holmgrenway, right?

Yep.

Yeah.

So I mean, it's within Waukesha, so it's right there.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

So, uh, Don and I drove up on Tuesday morning just to drive around and get the lay of the land.

And it is, it is phenomenal.

Isn't it guys?

Yeah.

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It's here.

Again, you know, everybody's different, but with the people that say, I can't wait for it to be over.

Let's just embrace this.

Come on, man.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So we're super excited because our Ash Pop, Ashkosh popcorn makers were invited to come into the Draft Day Food Fest, which is part of the Bell and Health, big giant thing they've got.

We're

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there tonight with Mark Houston, Bell and Health.

That's what we're all going to be watching.

Oh my gosh.

Okay, so we didn't know that Oshkosh had a special popcorn thing.

Did you know that, Jim?

I didn't.

I did not.

No pack doesn't tell us anything.

No.

Right before the exit that you're supposed to get off when you come to Oshkosh, John,

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you'll

see Oshkosh right along Highway 41.

So it's

before the final exit.

You'll smell the popcorn, John, when you drive by on 41.

But so they are coming with seven of their of their flavored popcorns.

They've got 40 of them.

Wow.

Oh, yes.

They my personal favorite old fashioned popcorn.

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Okay, Nick.

What are we doing our show in Oshkosh again, Todd?

A couple of weeks.

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Can you please get these people?

I will get Chris on.

Yes.

Chris is the owner of Oshpop.

Phenomenal.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So go over and see him if you have a chance.

I'm sure he'll be there at the Bell and Health.

They're in the parking lot.

Maybe we can go to that chocolate store where everybody hated us too.

It was just

John wanted to cut the line.

That's where they hated us.

That's great chocolate, great people, but didn't know you couldn't cut in line and

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Oshkosh Pat.

That's what happened.

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Pat Tracy, you're the best.

You

see it.

The draft.

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Take care

of my friend.

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John Maino

No, no

much later than that.

No, he

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was

here

not in our streets.

I'm gonna

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make a wager.

This was in the 70s.

No,

no,

it

was not.

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Okay.

Well, it was.

Um,

what?

What did you know?

He was

in the

late

70s.

He was in the late 70s.

Nope.

It was not.

Just

wait.

Let me think.

We're talking about this.

We're talking about this song.

Yeah, right?

Not 90.

What did you say?

I'm saying 79.

I said 77.

Mm-hmm 82 Okay, so Michael Friedman says 82 Mike Clemens.

What do you say?

That

was my first guess

82.

Yeah, according to Google 1980 So I win.

No, you don't know this isn't this isn't price is right.

This isn't price.

I won like how did you how did you win?

I said 79.

Yeah, but

it's I won.

No, you didn't win.

I'm closest.

No.

No, this isn't

Mike Clemens.

How you doing?

Oh, that's right.

I saw him at Summerfest in 82.

Exactly.

That's right.

Gotcha.

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Exactly.

Mike Clement, sports director of the entire civic media family over what, 24 stations?

Something like that.

Something like that.

How's it going, buddy?

Good.

Welcome to Green Bay.

Are you glad

it's finally here?

Are you one of those guys?

I'll tell you guys, the best interview I've heard.

in the last several months about leading up to this huge day today in this weekend in Green Bay is on this show and you guys talking Aaron Popkey.

I heard that on the

stream.

Driving across the state the other day.

And he was giving you guys some stuff that I hadn't even heard yet.

But it was such a great story for him to say, look, we tried because the Super Bowl had been in other markets, but as Mark Murphy has told you on your show and everything, it's like, look,

you've got to have like 30,000 rooms in a 50 mile radius or something like that.

We've got 7,000 places.

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Class A

rooms.

And we don't need any more.

And plus, I'm not sure the

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first week of February would be conducive to having a great football game in Green Bay.

They dodged the bullet in New York.

I was there.

I was there.

And the next day after the game, they got eight inches of snow.

But at the end of the day, the NFL.

They don't mind if it snows.

They think it's funny.

Yeah, it makes good TV.

That's all they care about is eyeballs, right?

And breaking 133 million like they had this past year.

But at the end of the day, Mark Murphy says,

Maybe we could get the draft and to hear Popkey talk about how he filled out that pick work 10 years ago.

He had

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a thousand word essay.

It's like for the NFL draft, it comes down to doing a term paper.

Yeah, that's what got it.

That's what it was.

Aaron Popkey has been with the team now 30 years.

I remember when he was an intern.

Me too with Jeff Blum.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And now he's, you know, the director of public affairs and he handles all those kinds of stories.

You bet.

Does great job.

Good interview on this show.

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Thanks.

Well, you tell me, Mike, what do you think?

But heading into something like this, you know, we've all covered a lot of events.

We've covered Super Bowls, whatever, whatever.

But this is a different stratosphere we're going to because nobody really knows how this plays out until you just wait into it.

Right?

Yeah.

What I know for sure is this is that Brian Good consistent, exactly sure who he's going to take tonight, right?

That he'll probably when he had with the 23rd pick overall.

And tonight is just the first round.

That he'll go into it probably with about six or seven players right that he thinks are worth the first round and You know that you'll think that cam Mord will probably be the quarterback going to the Titans at number one And then there's Travis hunter kid who can play both offense and defense, you know out of Colorado

You know, we'd go to the Browns, the next one, and then all the players would come off the board.

Some really good ones.

There's a really good linebacker named Abdul Carter of Penn State.

He's amazing.

He might be the best football player of all the draft along with this Travis Hunter kid.

Do you

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remember LeVar, Errington, and those great...

guys that have pens, he reminds me of one of those types.

He does.

Penn State just gets those guys, don't they?

Michael,

you're a big follower.

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Khalil Mack.

Khalil Mack.

He didn't come out of Penn State, but he might have.

But same

types.

Buffalo or something.

So by the time you get to 23, if there's at least one or two of those players, you think that's worth it.

That's the one you put, you stick to your math.

You stick to your math.

How far do

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you think Sanders is going to drop?

I

don't know.

Everybody thinks that he's kind of overrated, you know, because of his dad.

Arm strength and whatever.

Does he bring the

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whole package to the

party that you don't want?

Yeah, there's been some sort of media poison on him in the last few days, too.

That will be an interesting one to see for sure.

That's always a danger, right?

That this PR marketing, that happened to us

years and years ago.

Did

it?

when you look at some of these guys that we brought in, it was more hyped than it was talent.

And there's teams that are pretty clever about this.

They find these knuckleheads in the media that say, hey, we're gonna do this and all that.

And then these guys go on the air and they talk about it.

That was just exactly what they're not doing.

That you're playing into their hands.

So you being, I mean, you're credentialed to get anywhere that you want.

Where, how does your night go?

I mean, you're much different than...

Well,

it's different.

It's different this year, Jim, than any other year, because normally during a draft, I just pull up to Lambeau Field and the parking lot's empty.

So today, I'm really kind of concerned about how I get in that first day because of the security considerations.

But after that, they're also redoing our media area.

So they've put us up in a luxury suite.

I'm going to be up in a luxury suite for an office tonight.

Inside

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the

stadium up on the fifth floor.

Oh, okay.

Oh, that's cool.

So I have like that But then they take us down into the media auditorium where you see battle floor news press conferences all the time Jordan love after a game We'll be in there and throughout the entire weekend as the Packers pick a player that we get to talk to the player on the speakerphone You know from wherever they are we talked to the Scouts we talked to the assistant coaches and then we'll talk to the Brian good against the GM

And Matt will sort of the head coach as the weekend goes on.

So we have all those stories for you over the weekend.

We'll have that every hour here on this radio station and across our civic media stations and then a recap for you on Monday.

Awesome.

That's great.

You're right in there.

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