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WI assessment, Appleton.
where it is 53 degrees this morning, 52 in Green Bay, 51 in Oshkosh, morning showers, cloudy high of 60 today.
But you know what?
It is the NFL Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin, Northeast Wisconsin.
We are excited about it.
We're not going to complain about anything.
And I just got, I just, I just, I forgot about what we got going on today.
I was going to wear something that wasn't so tight so I could arm wrestle we here.
Yeah.
Um, was the Wisconsin arm wrestling, um, president, uh, and I just can't be cut and then, then plus the shoulder injury they have
Yep.
This is a Wisconsin state championships.
We're doing it at the Oshkosh arena this Saturday state championship.
So what do you have to do to get like get there?
Do
All arm wrestling events are pretty much open to anybody throughout the whole world.
And age, weight class?
How does that work?
Well, we run several different divisions.
We have a kid's division, and we take the littlest person out there that wants to get up on the
Oh, yes.
all technique.
It's 99% technique over strength.
Wisconsin has some very talented women wrestlers.
Um, Daniel Everson and, uh, Shawna Wagner, uh, Brittany Heyhurst, they're right, um, out of Appleton.
So
that?
Amazing.
And actually two of the, two of the girls are going to be down at in all women's event down south.
I don't remember exactly where it's at, but.
Saturday state state championships
Nope.
Just show up and show up before the time limits Kids could wrestle at 10 o'clock.
So you got to be there by 9 30 to register We have super matches.
We have I believe like 10 super matches where somebody calls somebody out Wow, we have Ron the legend bath Which is actually he's originally from the Wabino area now down in Georgia.
He's one of the
He's one of the legends of arm wrestling.
We have
are.
So, um.
There's a seven weight classes for the amateurs in the open, starting at 63 kilograms, going up to 105 kilograms.
105 is basically a 231.
231
Okay.
And, uh,
Well, when it, when it turns out to be a tournament like this, weight does make a big difference.
Okay.
Because the guys,
He'll destroy the whole bar.
Yeah.
they know what they're doing.
And there's there's quite a few of them up there.
We do some tournaments and up in Iron Mountain.
Yep.
There's a group up.
There's a group training group up there actually in Iron Mountain.
Um, Christmas scale runs that and they're great group of guys.
They'll be down here this weekend.
Does somebody walk around like a bookie and do there might be.
from
can people
just, it's just the words.
Okay.
It's just top four, top four in each weight division,
Yeah, that is cool.
And we have a few national champions here in Wisconsin, so they'll be here competing.
So how long have you been doing this?
I started arm wrestling back in 1980.
Wow.
OK, so that's been a while.
It's so much bigger than what it was.
I mean, just the development through social media.
Right.
It has just,
snapped.
Do you remember that?
I see about four or five broken arms a year.
Wow.
normally, normally the guy turns away from his hand.
You're supposed to look at your hand the whole time you're wrestling.
And if he turns away from it, takes the pressure off the forearm, puts it on the bicep.
It only takes about seven pounds of pressure to snap the bone.
So when your arm rustling, you want to look at your hand.
You want to stay looking at your hand because that'll keep your shoulders square to your hand.
And when you look away, you know, you're trying to pull and it's just, it's human habit and human nature to look away from it and take your whole body into your arm and it takes the pressure off the forearm, puts it on the bicep and the bicep will take the bone and just snap it right in half.
Wow.
Well John you have to look at her It's a gruesome sound it is it completely silence is the whole room you had two of them last year at state tournament
the same guy
Broke two different people's arms.
Holy crap.
One right, one left.
Is he a local?
Is he a local guy?
Yeah, he is.
And just a complete free.
We don't want him coming into
studio.
This guy's only like 165 pounds.
little bit, but I mean, I'm not an armor player by any means.
Not anymore.
But have they ever considered making it an Olympic sport?
They have tried and tried and tried.
Yeah.
Um, but there's too many different organizations out there that have little niches to their rules and designs that are tables and they're just too many differences.
If the world of arm wrestling would become completely organized, we'd be in the Olympics at a heartbeat.
I honestly believe that.
Wow.
I would have
Yeah.
I would think
so.
There's, there's, there's an East.
Versus West series out there right now and there's there's so many different series out there I mean you can you can Google it and you'll you'll find arm wrestling all
It seems like you're right, but I'm sure
elbow on the pad grab the other guy's hand.
It's not that simple.
No, it's not
They used to crash weddings him and his buddy who turned to my brother and then go into wedding they take like
Boxes wrapped with nothing.
They're bringing like a phone book to drink for free and chase women and and they got busted and there was this real tough family The barracks
shot without questions asked just so you know But whatever so they crashed their wedding dad is it and the guy said you know what?
Alarm wrestle you if I beat you you're not walking out of here.
You're gonna be carried out of here
And my brother beat him in arm wrestling and he's to this day.
So that's his greatest feat achievement in his life.
Cause they literally said, you're going to be carried out you and your buddy for crashing our wedding and drinking our beer for free.
So arm wrestling used to be a real thing.
That was like the gun, right?
It is exactly.
Wasn't it though?
Oh
yeah.
Oh yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I have a 26 national titles through wrist wrestling.
Well, what does that mean?
So wrist wrestling is a little bit different and that's an action in Wisconsin.
That's how we started Instead of having the peg on the table you would hold hands in the center of the table bring the arm bring the hand down to the forearm Right.
That's right.
And that's basically what you do in the bars.
I'll give you a couple of minutes.
I want to make sure you start sweating first.
Right.
I'll
That's
So yeah.
They go with the over under under a
Michael.
Wow.
I mean,
There's specific lifts you can do.
I honestly believe table time is superior to the weightlifting itself.
It's getting your tendons and joints and your muscles to remember the positions on the table and the pulling on the table.
But there's so much technique into it and learning how to curl your wrist the right direction and feel what
you know, oppose what the other guy is doing to you.
And we're
yeah, this is definitely a spectator sport.
And that's why we're going to the arena.
We're in Oshkosh arena and it's
We've got 5,000 seating, people seating
nice.
Wow.
This is our biggest venue ever we're doing this tournament at.
Some
yes.
Oh yes, absolutely.
And this event also is helping out the Christine and domestic abuse
some vendors.
We're going to have some vendors there.
Right.
Selling all kinds of different stuff, you know, and just come on in.
The concession stands will be open.
They'll be, you know, arena be selling food and beer and alcohol.
And
it.
John.
That's called a
roll.
Nope.
This is a top roll.
we curl this way.
I'm
That's a hook.
work your hand.
It's whoever gets the most advantage off the start when the referee says go.
Right.
Who gets the jump.
That's
mean.
And then we get the most inertia going.
OK.
It's hard to recover.
But man, there's going to be some matches you're going to see that might go two minutes.
is seven seconds.
kids, the kids and the special abilities will start at 10 o'clock on Saturday.
Our super matches will be at noon.
One o'clock will be the amateurs and the masters.
The masters is 40 and we have 40 and over 50 and over 60 over divisions.
And then the premier event, the open, women's and men's open will be at 3 p.m.
Phenomenal.
Yeah.
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remember that the only time I ever ever been involved in arm.
Sorry an arm wrestling has been After going out drinking right
Well, Michael, you said
for tonight?
Well, my training, I'm going to get to the draft at two.
Right.
And then I'm going to do 20-ounce lifts to about seven.
OK.
And you know, those Miller light lifts.
And then you and I will catch up at seven, and we're going to wrestle,
arm
wrestle,
or maybe
even just wrestle.
I don't
that.
I don't
I gotta be honest with you.
I don't.
I don't.
So we're going to have Mike Clem.
We got Pat Tracy coming up to discover Oshkosh, which of course where the arm wrestling thing is going to be.
We got Mike Clemens, who is Civic Media.
He's our sports director for the whole company.
And Mike is very dedicated.
dedicated to the point where he is sleeping here at the stage.
Are we not supposed to say that because it's illegal?
Didn't you say that?
I did.
I'm sorry.
No, he wasn't sleeping.
He was just
Yes.
Oh, Lee's looking at me like he wants to beat me up.
You know, it's one of those things, though, too, with the Packard Trafford.
We were talking about this, too, Michael.
And I mean, you've been...
invested in it for a year.
We have two.
But again, we get people asking about it.
It's like, again, folks, we don't know.
We're just going to show up and see what it's all about because we've never been to one before.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that there's so many things going on for, for all ages.
Yeah.
I love the fact there's a huge family element baked in, which is great.
I mean, there's a 40 yard dash.
We could, we could do that too.
We could, we could dash.
Yeah.
She,
going to do any competition.
My, my, my really good friend Chris is coming up from Chicago.
He and I have had a, a bat where, you know, we're going to do a hundred.
$1,000 for the winner.
Are you kidding or are you serious?
Well, I'm dead serious, but I haven't raced him yet because I've had my bad hip.
$1,000?
I told him I could easily beat him in a 100-yard dash, and he's like, no, no way, no way, no way.
And I said, I promised you I could.
I said, let's bet on it.
It's $1,000.
So I have to work my body back into shape.
And then I'm going to race him.
What
dash?
The Packers host the draft.
Oh, nice.
Thanks, guys.
No, no, I'm within the next six months.
So we're both we're all we're both turning 60 this this this year, too.
So I'm turning 60 in July.
OK, that's 60.
I just know you don't be honest.
That's good.
You get that.
Do I
everyone ages differently.
that one
Why do you think I'm using that bomb?
good?
Yeah
Is it?
You know, I've seen that bomb before on Facebook ads.
And it's that tallow
bomb.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
And I've thought
about buying it.
And I actually saved it on my phone.
I've got it.
I got some.
But I just don't know if it.
It's it's helped me.
No, so I don't I don't need that much of it because I do have a very young complexion You do but that's that's my Greek blood.
That's my I'm adopted so my biological parents are from Greece Oh, that's my Mediterranean.
I didn't know that my Mediterranean blood.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's very cool.
so
We had DeLorean Walls on.
They had a fundraiser last night at First & Goal, raising food for the local colleges.
Their goal was 1,000 pounds, right?
Um, well over 2000.
Wow.
That's phenomenal.
Love it.
Again, another individual doing something cool in our community.
Absolutely.
You guys
Right.
Well, no, I was a company.
Yeah.
No, we rent mostly here in Wisconsin.
We have a few homes in Florida.
And we are actually looking right now at expanding potentially into Winter Park, Colorado, and also Joshua Tree in California.
So really, really cool.
The reason
And, you know, like, I remember when we're going to rent a place in Nashville one time and it felt whatever, whatever.
But if people, you know, for summer vacations, wherever they're going, they could contact you and say, hey, I got an Airbnb in Yadda Yadda, right?
Yeah, we yeah, typically we won't take on just one home in a new destination.
But
but but we are we are starting to look to expand outside the area because there are opportunities.
We're going to we're actually in a few weeks, we're going to have a meeting with a company.
We're going to do a big project down outside of Nashville.
on the Tennessee River, high-end luxury glamping, dome homes and tiny homes.
Has
Mecca in the country?
It's booming.
It's booming.
It's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable what's happening there.
So we're looking into a lot of different things.
But this is our base.
This is our home.
This is where we, the company started where Wendy and Scott Salt started it back up in Door County.
And that's, you know what?
That's our baby.
And we love Door County.
And it's great.
It's like security.
You're like, you're looking at
him.
That whole scene was.
improvised.
And he said, make sure you don't call it ad lib.
It's improvisation.
It was quite a process that Martin Scorsese put us through over a few days that it would come out like that.
It wasn't just like, hey, how you doing?
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Can I just say this though in in Jim's defense?
Thank you You were teasing a rattlesnake.
Not really teasing.
Four times he went out first.
He didn't just took a picture
They went got a coat hanger and was hitting the back of them.
I said Johnny
those of us who you read about these things this guy with the camera I want to take a selfie with the with with like the moose or something gets it closer and closer and then the moose eats them people are like yeah he deserved it the lady with the polar bear
yeah come on I mean that lady who just recently was like come on it's no people
I was so excited that you had the arm wrestler guys in there because we are super excited in Oshkosh about bringing this event to the arena.
Right.
As they said, it's their biggest venue and it's exactly the kind of events that we're trying to do in Oshkosh to just, you know, bring the community in and it's really a family.
fun day.
And you'll see, you know, there's so much to do over there with the little vendors and all that.
And the kids can run up and down the bleachers until they tire themselves out.
So that's fun.
And the money
traveled more than any I don't know.
They have dive bars.
Yeah, there's there's like, yeah, just divey old restaurants, but not a dive bar where like you walk in and you get a shot and a beer for 85 cents.
Yeah, nothing like that.
Okay.
No, no, no, no.
So I
a dive bar.
Own a dive bar.
I think that would be pretty cool that I could live in live upstairs.
I don't know about living upstairs.
Oh, yeah, I've always
I'm not the only one would be pretty cool I
it was like,
heaven.
I think, I mean, I live in Madison, as you know, and there's some amazing dive bars in Madison too.
But the atmosphere and going in and get a really ice cold Miller High Life Champagne of beers.
Absolutely.
I mean, delicious.
Absolutely.
Or a bottle of Schlitz.
I mean, come on.
Could not agree more.
Come on.
Could not
agree
more.
The best.
You want to be partners?
Uh, to be determined.
Okay, think about it, though.
I mean, maybe, maybe Jim's got to be involved.
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an
are you?
not around the country yet.
We're getting there.
We're getting there.
But but no, we have we have some interesting locations.
We're looking at.
But I'll tell you, if you have never been to Joshua tree,
yeah, I don't go in the summer.
Right.
Absolutely one of the most spiritually
Grounded incredible places in the world.
It is it is magnificent.
Why is it?
Why is it hard for you to to Oshkosh?
Don't you just get off by the lion's den there?
And you know, you know, that exit landmark.
Hey, John, we're done with
So can we I prepared some draft content?
Okay.
Can I tell you guys a funny story?
Nope.
So in Oshkosh, we are we did a partnership with Appleton box cities, Visitors Bureau, and we did this giant national contest.
And we were going to give away one trip to we gave away two trips to the draft.
Okay, so two winners get to bring a guest.
So the Oshkosh trip winner is a Cleveland Browns fan.
Okay.
And he's coming with his brother.
And I'm all excited because I'm thinking that in my role as the Oshkosh ambassador, the tour guide, you never knew you needed, they're going to want me to like welcome this guy to Oshkosh and show him around.
No.
Nobody will leave on Brown's guy.
They do not want him to get waylaid on his way to the draft today, because I'm like,
And he's got the number two pick.
So like these guys are going to be there tonight on a all expense paid trip, courtesy of Discover Oshkosh.
They're staying at the hotel here and they're going to, you know, get them up there today and be there in the front row when they're Cleveland Brown.
Shooter
Is that who they think?
No, Travis Hunter.
Travis Hunter.
You don't think he'll be first?
No.
No, no, no.
You still think Cam is going to be first?
Yeah, I think Travis Hunter is going to be, well, unless the Browns trade that pick, which you never know, but he's kind of that once in a lifetime.
sides.
I don't think that's going to happen.
And you know what?
With the
for that.
That's a good one.
It's fine.
the bar,
right?
And then our new ex golf place, which is really cool.
And that's going to we're going to do a discover Oshkosh ex golf, you know, it's a giant indoor golf driving facility.
But it's also like a little country club thing in there.
So they're doing round trip, uh, to the, to the draft to back.
They've got a hundred dollar package, but it's got food and everything.
So if you're in Oshkosh and looking to go up there, uh, this weekend, you've got some good choices.
Just go to discover Oshkosh.com
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Mike Clemens.
How you doing?
Oh, that's right.
I saw him at Summerfest in 82.
Exactly.
That's right.
Gotcha.
Welcome to Green Bay.
Are you glad
Are you one of those guys?
I'll tell you guys, the best interview I've heard.
in the last several months about leading up to this huge day today in this weekend in Green Bay is on this show and you guys talking Aaron Popkey.
I heard that on the
stream.
Driving across the state the other day.
And he was giving you guys some stuff that I hadn't even heard yet.
But it was such a great story for him to say, look, we tried because the Super Bowl had been in other markets, but as Mark Murphy has told you on your show and everything, it's like, look,
you've got to have like 30,000 rooms in a 50 mile radius or something like that.
We've got 7,000 places.
rooms.
And we don't need any more.
And plus, I'm not sure the
I was there.
I was there.
And the next day after the game, they got eight inches of snow.
But at the end of the day, the NFL.
They don't mind if it snows.
They think it's funny.
Yeah, it makes good TV.
That's all they care about is eyeballs, right?
And breaking 133 million like they had this past year.
But at the end of the day, Mark Murphy says,
Maybe we could get the draft and to hear Popkey talk about how he filled out that pick work 10 years ago.
He had
Yeah, that's what got it.
That's what it was.
Aaron Popkey has been with the team now 30 years.
I remember when he was an intern.
Me too with Jeff Blum.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And now he's, you know, the director of public affairs and he handles all those kinds of stories.
You bet.
Does great job.
Good interview on this show.
Well, you tell me, Mike, what do you think?
But heading into something like this, you know, we've all covered a lot of events.
We've covered Super Bowls, whatever, whatever.
But this is a different stratosphere we're going to because nobody really knows how this plays out until you just wait into it.
Right?
Yeah.
What I know for sure is this is that Brian Good consistent, exactly sure who he's going to take tonight, right?
That he'll probably when he had with the 23rd pick overall.
And tonight is just the first round.
That he'll go into it probably with about six or seven players right that he thinks are worth the first round and You know that you'll think that cam Mord will probably be the quarterback going to the Titans at number one And then there's Travis hunter kid who can play both offense and defense, you know out of Colorado
You know, we'd go to the Browns, the next one, and then all the players would come off the board.
Some really good ones.
There's a really good linebacker named Abdul Carter of Penn State.
He's amazing.
He might be the best football player of all the draft along with this Travis Hunter kid.
Do you
you're a big follower.
Khalil Mack.
He didn't come out of Penn State, but he might have.
But same
types.
Buffalo or something.
So by the time you get to 23, if there's at least one or two of those players, you think that's worth it.
That's the one you put, you stick to your math.
You stick to your math.
How far do
don't know.
Everybody thinks that he's kind of overrated, you know, because of his dad.
Arm strength and whatever.
Does he bring the
party that you don't want?
Yeah, there's been some sort of media poison on him in the last few days, too.
That will be an interesting one to see for sure.
years and years ago.
Did
And there's teams that are pretty clever about this.
They find these knuckleheads in the media that say, hey, we're gonna do this and all that.
And then these guys go on the air and they talk about it.
That was just exactly what they're not doing.
it's different.
It's different this year, Jim, than any other year, because normally during a draft, I just pull up to Lambeau Field and the parking lot's empty.
So today, I'm really kind of concerned about how I get in that first day because of the security considerations.
But after that, they're also redoing our media area.
So they've put us up in a luxury suite.
I'm going to be up in a luxury suite for an office tonight.
Inside
stadium up on the fifth floor.
Oh, okay.
Oh, that's cool.
So I have like that But then they take us down into the media auditorium where you see battle floor news press conferences all the time Jordan love after a game We'll be in there and throughout the entire weekend as the Packers pick a player that we get to talk to the player on the speakerphone You know from wherever they are we talked to the Scouts we talked to the assistant coaches and then we'll talk to the Brian good against the GM
And Matt will sort of the head coach as the weekend goes on.
So we have all those stories for you over the weekend.
We'll have that every hour here on this radio station and across our civic media stations and then a recap for you on Monday.
Awesome.
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