38 degrees highs in the low 50s.
There might be a few sprinkles, maybe some scattered showers around trick or treat time this evening.
But it's just a slight chance.
Highs in the low to mid 50s.
And we welcome in Todd Michaels to John and Gordy's show.
Good morning, Todd.
Todd is
Ghost stories is actually a couple of podcasts, Gordy.
Real ghost stories online where we actually have listeners and people.
right in their own ghost stories, which range from anything from, Hey, listen, that's just an electrical problem in your house.
Check that out to boy, that's that's one of the most strange things I've ever heard that years and years and years.
I think this thing's been going on since like 2010, 2012.
Um, and then another one called hidden killers with Tony brusky.
That one touches on the hauntings of real people on that hauntings, but
the real nasty people out there in everyday life that are murdering people.
And some of these people are getting away with it left and right.
So those are the two big projects that I have.
And in fact, you were mentioning with Pete.
on the show earlier, last night rather, you were talking about how Hidden Killers is kind of like a show about real monsters.
In fact, they have so many of these specials now, Ed Geinstory, which I haven't, I've watched the first episode and it's scary and bizarre and uncomfortable as heck.
Have you seen any part of that at all, the Ed Geinstory?
It was hard for me to get Metcalfe.
What's her name?
Oh, Lori Metcalfe.
Yeah, I love her.
I mean, she's so funny.
And I think everything she's ever been in is great.
But to see her in the Ed Gein story, it kind of turned me off.
I wasn't able to get into the Ed Gein mind space, which may be a good thing when you think about it.
And what's really weird, what's really weird about that, John, is if you look at a lot of serial killers or people that just do horrible, horrible things in the true crime world, a lot of them have very interesting connections with their mother, their mother's a narcissist, mother's controlling.
There's a weird, you know, not necessarily in a sexual way, but certainly a weird love or connection between that mother and that son.
So it's not unheard of even today that.
We have stories within the last 5-10 years of people who have done very similar things.
There were some firsts because when you investigate, whenever you do anything, there's a first for everything, right?
There's the first time you walk up a ramp on a record at a radio station.
There's the first time you read a newscast, all that kind of stuff.
So we were in Washington Island at a place called Nelson's Hall, which is the longest running
basically tavern in wisconsin they never really closed down during prohibition because the guy got a license to be a pharmacist and he would prescribe bitters to all of his uh quote-unquote patients so they were basically a bar during that entire time and one of the oddest things that ever happened to me at that location was we were doing a spirit box session a spirit box session is basically a radio that continually goes through all the channels all the frequencies on it very quickly kind of like a scanner
kind of like a scanner exactly and so the thought process is if you get something back through that that's more than one or two syllables you're actually hitting several frequencies on the radio there's got to be some sort of communication there at any rate we weren't actually getting any spirit box interaction but there were three of us and we had a recorder in the middle of us we were just asking questions and right in the middle of us about head level eye level
came this guttural growl out of nowhere.
And the first thing you do as an investigator, you go, OK, which one of you is hungry?
We got to get some food in us
peeking out behind columns that hold up this huge structure.
We put up a laser grid, which is just a bunch of laser lights.
Remember when President Bush said a thousand points of light or whatever he said?
Same thing.
You can see the
Right.
You can see the lights being broken behind this column, which was very, very freaky.
And then we actually caught it on video.
on the train itself running into the engine part of the train.
And then I think the third thing that kind of blew me away was it was very minor, but it kind of changed my mind in my investigation.
We were at a martini bar in Appleton and we had been getting few things throughout the night.
Maybe we'd hear something or we might hear a voice or whatever.
But at the end of the night, we were all sitting at the bar kind of winding down and I said,
You know, I'm thinking to myself, maybe we're asking this thing to communicate in a way that it can't communicate.
It would be like coming up to you in the middle of the street and telling you that I'd give you a million dollars, but I'm talking in a language that you don't understand.
Like, we're just expecting whatever this is, spirit, ghost, entity, whatever, to be able to communicate the way we're telling it to.
And I just said, you know what, whatever it is, whatever you do really well around here, because they had reports, obviously, of paranormal activity.
So whatever you do, I'm going to count to three.
You just do it.
And we got this on tape, video and everything else.
And I said, OK, let's just do it.
Whatever it is, one, two, three.
And in the minute I said three, there was a big clank from behind the bar.
Wow.
And just off to the side of the bar.
It was the walk-in cooler door, the handle, the big metal handle had swung out and slapped back,
And that said to me, you know what?
We can't go in expecting to communicate with who we think we're communicating with, how they want to communicate.
We're in their world at that point.
They have the power to tell us how they want to talk to us.
But the crazy thing is, Todd, is that when I was a little kid, a tiny little kid, maybe three or four years old, I was seeing ghosts in my dreams.
No, why would you?
dream about something you have no idea existed.
I mean there was no reason for me to even know anything about ghosts, but I would see them, I'd hide under the blanket and I'd be looking out at the blanket and I'd see an eye looking through the part of the blanket that didn't go down tightly on the mattress.
I can tell you that.
OK.
Where do you get your laundry done?
But the whole thing here is, and I always tell Cody this, that you really have to give credit to ghosts because
They really have to...
conjure up a lot of energy.
They have to tap into a source in order to even try to communicate with us.
And when they do that, you got to give them a little bit credit.
I mean, they're out there trying to say something to us, to poke us, to do something, create a sound, and they
Okay.
No one believes him.
I've always wondered about ghosts.
They clearly can pass through walls, but then why don't they just drop through the floor and fall into the basement?
Basement should be full of ghosts, but they're not.
What's up with that?
How many are there?
Well, there's about 80 billion people who have ever lived.
We got eight
billion people alive today.
That's 10 ghosts of dead people for every living person walking this earth.
That's too crowded.
Why aren't there more of them?
Why do you gotta go to special places at certain times and only see some of them?
They should be everywhere and they're not.
We have no idea unless you're religious and you have a strong belief.
That's right.
Ethic in that.
That's right.
We have no idea what happens after death.
That's right.
Nothing can be spookier.
That's right.
And even those belief systems cannot be confirmed in any sort of experimental
right, right.
People have tried, as you know, they're even expressed in fiction, like...
Dan Brown's novel, Angels and Demons, there supposedly was an experiment where they had somebody who was about to die and weighed him and then he died and they weighed him again and it's a little lighter.
You know, some sort of physical thing.
They even
tried.
Like a soul.
Right when.
And you got to give them credit for doing the
experiment.
You got to try.
Yeah, yeah.
So if everyone thinks you have a soul and there's science that can test things, why not test your soul?
So right after Ronchin, Wilhelm Ronchin,
x-rays.
X-rays can see through your body.
No one else ever saw through your body.
Right.
Now X-rays, so they get somebody dying on the bench, and they waited for him to die to see if they saw something leaving his body with the X, and they didn't.
They did not.
That's right.
First of all,
Science only knows what it knows right to this point, right?
So that's kind of why people investigate is to see if there is a way that we can prove something's going on second of all Here and I love that gentleman, but his thought process on ghosts and spirits is a little it.
Well, it's it's very elementary.
Yes
Here's what I believe Gordy I think my spirit my energy whatever that is
doesn't stay here, doesn't go over there, doesn't whatever.
It can go anywhere, okay?
And so we have stuff going on around us all the time that we're just not experiencing.
And if I die, I'm not gonna be stuck in my house.
Part of me may be here because listen, I've lived here.
I've had laughter and tears here.
My energy is here.
I've expelled energy here.
And so part of me will always be here in some way, shape or form.
I'll give you a quick example and John, I think you'll enjoy this more than Gordy, but I went to Cana Island lighthouse in Door County.
And I brought me a couple of pieces of equipment and stuff.
And in the back of my mind, I had this, this idea that my mom might visit me.
My mom's never been there.
My mom knew I loved it.
My mom's been gone a couple of years now.
And I went there that day and had some experiences on the island, walked up to a rock wall that surrounds the island, put my equipment down and just had a session of some conversations and I was getting responses on the equipment.
We got some audio back and it seemed like it was my mother.
Now I can't prove it was my mom, but she responded to the questions I asked.
There was some audio that were recorded.
Pretty cool experience.
Yeah,
And I'm leaning less away from being locked in.
I think that if something traumatic happened there, maybe something more would stick around.
I really think that we have the ability to go and do whatever we want when we're gone.
And if somebody conjures us up, we might come back and say hi.
Yeah, we've got a whole bunch.
I have saved the stuff over the many, many years.
I'm a big fan of Halloween, I just love it.
And let's get into some of these ghost shows that got a lot of people interested.
In fact, I used to watch the ghost show with my kid.
He just loves ghost hunting.
We did that.
We went to New Orleans and did some ghost
Gordy's sitting there laughing, but that was what I was saying, Gordy, off the air was, it's tough when you work in the world of audio, and you're so used to using that equipment, and you know how it works, and you know the anomalies you can get with it, and then you do a session, an EVP session.
and you're asking questions and all of a sudden there's a response that wasn't there to your ear.
You've got to go, what the heck was that?
I will tell you one other quick interesting story, John.
I don't know if you know this, but a world renowned psycho, whatever, big guy in the industry of paranormal actually did something interesting with cassette tapes.
If people remember cassette tapes from back in the day, normally EVPs are done with
equipment that records stuff.
Back in the day it was tape, now it's mp3 or something else, but they took a cassette tape and just laid it on the counter and did a EVP session to see if
The energies could manipulate the magnetic on the tape to do what it wanted to do.
And do you know that they actually got audio on that tape?
One of the funniest ones and one of the dumbest ones is Ghost Adventures.
Zack Baggins is the host of the show.
He's a drama queen from the word go, but the early shows were just
areas because here these guys are ghost hunting and they're locked in the homes.
That was one of the prerequisites.
They had to be locked in overnight.
And the thing is they ran.
Every time there was a ghost or a sound effect or something happened near them, they would bolt.
And I'm thinking, why would you bolt?
Don't you want to see
Listen, I've worked at a haunted radio station before and that we've actually investigated and got some experiences on tape, Gordy, so I'll bring that to you.
Here's my theory on theaters because the Barrymore is a theater that we actually did investigate in Madison and got some good experiences there as well.
There's so much energy over these years, right?
I mean, the performances, the hard times at those theaters, I really feel like
all that energy does bring about some experiences.
Same thing with restaurants and bars where they've been owned by families for a long time.
People put their heart and soul into this stuff.
And part of them is left behind.
And so theaters make a lot of sense.
We did the Grand Opera House in Oshkosh, found something there, did the Papston in Milwaukee, found something there, did the Riverside in Milwaukee.
I think we actually had a partial...
You can find it everywhere.
You get podcasts.
There's a YouTube channel.
We do videos throughout the week on there.
So check that out again.
If you've got a ghost story, you can call in, you can write and tell your story.
We listen to it.
We analyze it.
We probably make fun of you and then we move on.
We definitely have to have them back.
I want to get into, you know, how kids get into it.
The TV shows that they can watch on this.
You know, I got a little long on my dream house with Zach Baggins, the producer.
of ghost adventures, but I really want to get into this a little bit more.
I want to convince you that there is a different kind of haunting, and maybe it's a haunting that you're unfamiliar with, the reason why those hauntings exist.
and we
Nobody does now because they moved his body because many people kept going to the Plainfield Cemetery that you know, and it's such a cult status place.
Yeah.
So they did move at Dean's body.
But before they did, we went up there and we found his grave site and there it was.
Right.
And he was only buried like 20 feet or so from actually some of the graves that he had robbed.
And most people don't realize he he he's.
He's classified a serial killer because he actually killed more than one person, but he only killed two, right?
It wasn't like this, like he did it.
Most of the stuff he did was Rob Graves, right?
Of people who are already dead.
And so the interesting thing was that when we got there, there were all kinds of things left around his headstone, including like, we were up there in the winter.
And so some people had left like Christmas stuff hanging from the, the, the tombstone.
It was pretty crazy.
And so.
We're, you know, we filmed it.
We then we went into town and we stopped at a gas station.
I said, Hey, you know, this old guy was there getting gas or like, Hey, did you ever know?
Oh, yeah, I knew it.
I was a basketball coach.
He used to come see basketball all the time.
And really?
And it was pretty strange conversation talking to this guy who knew it.
He's like, Oh, he was a nice guy and he didn't nothing really good.
Bad things to say about him.
He was all good.
And and then we decided to try and look around for the house.
You know, where they where they found this stuff and we're driving
Yeah.
Thanks, guys.
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Let's talk about Lily Slay.
Oh my goodness.
Got a Halloween voice here.
Live from the Mad City, Lily Slay is the Southern Bell Paradox meets Midwest Hot Mess and she cut her teeth playing music in Charleston, South Carolina and after a buddy.
a year after the pandemic lockdown, she packed up her wigs and her kazoo and moved to Milwaukee to escape the heat and try on a new city for her size.
And she's ready to come out here to Madison.
She will be here this weekend performing live from the Mad City.
Here's a song from her band, the Royal Tinfoil, which they're from South Carolina.
And this is a song she'll perform performing solo acoustic this Saturday night live from the Mad City.
Right now, this is Lily Slay.
This song is called
limousine.
cool
And she'll be in here solo acoustic right in the studio Saturday night at 8 p.m.
That's really slave from Milwaukee and another guest we're gonna be having this weekend bad wolf the Madison, Wisconsin based quartet bad wolf they were formed in 1991 by singer-songwriter guitars Charles Thomas and after reuniting for a musical celebration for the life of Kenny Gonzo Keith the singer for metal guns vinyl thunder and predator
Bad Wolf is back with a new album.
The new album is called Dotted Line and they're having an album completion party.
Who has those nowadays?
Right.
But, you know, they're going to be waiting for some vinyl because vinyl is really backed up.
Blues.
Dangerous, he'll take you down That man is hard as stone and he don't care
It's Halloween, right?
Yeah.
Chakari Dejaree.
We had her in the studio a couple of weeks back.
And Friday, October 31st, Cargo Music presents the the Chakari Dejaree Halloween Jamboree at the Cargo Coffee East from 6 30 to 8 30.
That's tonight.
An unforgettable night of music, fun and spooky stories.
So make sure you can get your spooky stories tonight.
And there will be other bands, not three superstar.
It's Foxy and the sensational My Girl Nandi.
Bring your little ghouls and goblins for a night filled with candy at every table.
Right.
woman.
The best curve on woman is her smile So baby won't you smile
Let's just get that out of the way, right?
Right Jeff Eccles on upright bass Vince few on piano Roger brotherhood on guitar
Doc Dehaven.
Remember?
Oh, yes.
Remember?
Well, yeah.
Doc and Trumpet, Lugelhorn and Bill Grant on sex.
So just an amazing band that used to play every Tuesday night out by Hildale.
She was terrific.
And Dr. Haven, of course, he was the band director for, was it West High School?
I think so.
I'm not sure on that.
But Clyde Stubblefield, you know, all of a sudden you'd see him playing in this like jazz, right?
And I once went up to Clyde and I was like, jazz.
I mean, Clyde.
I see, you know, James Brown, you know, all this blues, right?
You know, funk and stuff.
And, you know, what do you practice with these guys?
How do you know how to play all this jazz, right?
Because they're all reading, you know, sheets and sheets of music.
He's like, man, I don't know.
I just come for the free beer and the munchies and just play.
Yeah, that's quite the answer.
He's just, I just sit down and play.
I don't practice.
I just sit down and play.
She is the singer for the band Atomic Blind.
They're a cover band here in Madison, but she does her own music.
live solo acoustic and Saturday December 6th at the Boulevard you can catch Atomic Blonde but Becca Murray will be in here in the studio with us in January so we'll keep you posted on that Saturday December 20th she is at the red mouse as well the old kids corner out there and on November 14th she's releasing a new single and this new single is called Flytrap this is Becca Murray
Thought you'd get away Ignoring science Only was a short manner of time Till you left your real plans all behind And you found you're going no place else at all
Yeah.
You know, go to her Facebook page, find her on Facebook.
She posts a lot of her doing solo covers.
And she's just an amazing artist.
And then she has her own material, which we'll hear right here on Maxingradio coming up.
in January.
You know, guys, I often wonder, you know, I ride in, I hear CJ calling in and harassing you guys and you
She sings backup vocals with Cat in the Hurricane.
And of course, she's her own artist on her own.
Cargo Coffee presents Candace Griffin and Thomas Hyber Cobb that Saturday, November 1st, tomorrow night at the Cargo Coffee East on East Washington 630 to 830.
It's a pay what you can at the door.
This is Candace Griffin.
Pick up my pieces Take a bath and I'll
take a walk I try not to cry whenever we talk I know when you go, it'll be a fight But that won't stop me from drinking the rest of your
I've had a
wondering
here
we're
so go
hey guys thanks for mentioning me but I was very good friends with Clyde stubblefield really yeah great guy
Met him through I guess if you remember the restaurant Mountain Jack
I don't wish to marry to jail from there, but Anyways, you know, I guess I'm into Christian music now.
It's more like rock and roll than it used to be Yeah, so yeah But I don't know rocker were you the guy that when I used to protest out in front of the radio station
And it said vote carry in pepperoni
So
really no
All right, CJ, all
See you later.
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