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With that being said we can do things during the shutdown that are irreversible that are bad for them and irreversible by them.
like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that they like, cutting programs that they like.
And you know all, you all know Russell Vody's become very popular recently because he can trim the budget to a level that you couldn't do any other way.
So they're taking a risk by having a shutdown because because of the shutdown, we can do things medically and other ways, including benefits.
Just stop it right there.
You know, his whole thing about cutting everything away from the left that they like is not a great campaign slogan in any way, shape, or form.
When you hear him say that, then it'll take it out on you, the voter, you.
Yeah.
Personally, that is something that I've never heard a politician go out and say before.
Right.
But he seems to be getting away with it.
Maybe we'll see, we'll see what happens.
But I want to go through a few texts here.
We got a whole bunch of them.
Scott Madison says, I'm not stunned at all.
Republicans are going to love burning down major cities.
They're
They think it's awesome.
And then we have John out in Edgerton saying maybe our leader can lead the way in fitness and maybe we can, we can find troops who won't drink like their boss did.
That would make me feel safe.
Steve Montmahorob, as a veteran, I see that Trump will use the military to take over these cities.
He will use the military against civilians that don't agree with him.
Watch later at the end of his term.
He will try to stay.
in office.
All wise comments.
Thank you very
the only
but more difficult in many ways because they don't wear uniforms at least when they're wearing a uniform you can take them out these people don't have uniforms but we are under invasion from within the Democrats run most of the cities that are in bad shape we have many cities in great shape too by the way I want you to know that but it seems that the ones that are run by the radical left Democrats what they've done to San Francisco Chicago New York Los Angeles
They're very unsafe places, and we're going to straighten them out one by one.
We should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military, national guard, but military, because we're going
into
That's a big city.
It's the enemy from within, and we have to handle it before it gets out of control.
It won't get out of control.
Our history is filled with military heroes who took on all enemies, foreign and domestic.
You know that phrase?
Very well, that's what the oath says foreign and domestic.
Well, we also have domestic
Military takeover.
They're thinking maybe they better at least start planning something like that.
Yeah, I was going to say that you would think talk like that would put in place perhaps an impeachment.
Yes.
You would think he's talking about going into our cities and killing people with a military right as a Training ground a training ground on
In the Senate, they're the ones that have to approve the impeachment after all, but they're not gonna do anything.
Wow.
They're just, well, I don't know, part of the show.
And then of course, you know, we're picking
piggybacking that with the NSPM7, which is a national security directive, identifying anti-Christian, anti-American, whatever that is, views as an indicator of radical left violence.
They could do that to us.
They could come into these studios and take us away for just this purpose, just this purpose.
What's that called again, NPS7?
PM NS PM and that is that stands for National Security Presidential Memorandum seven So there were six others before I have a feeling we missed
Okay.
I can imagine being considered an extremist on gender
Boy or extremist on race all you know all of these descriptions the things they're looking for preemption They're going to preempt you from committing any one of these acts That's the scariest part of all and but these are all things they're doing You know I wouldn't say they're necessarily Christians Because a Christian would never do any of this stuff.
No none of this
But it's a it's a white nationalist Christian movement that is taking over the administration.
So That's one of the things it's chilling.
Yeah, it's it's it's a bit Let's see if we got another one here
says here Cody Mentioned that in the morning news they showed a picture in the Oval Office from yesterday with the King Jefferies and with two others of the two Trump 2028 hats on the desk.
Oh, no other president
would have done that.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's pretty outrageous, isn't it?
And of course, Mark wrote, Vote loves to do this stuff.
He's the guy in charge of financing everything in government.
He can make cuts anywhere he wants.
No one has to know about it, and that's what he's doing now.
And he also was one of the authors of Project 2025.
Yes.
And he says, I hope the next meal
Vote has been prepared has been prepared with food that have that have sat overnight under a heat lamp and the waitstaff spits in it like Penny always threatened Sheldon on the big big theory.
Yeah,
We've got the government shut down and the
Republicans need a couple of votes from the Democrats in order to push forward with their agenda, and the Democrats wisely are not doing that until they get some concessions.
At least the tax credits for the Affordable Care Act that we'll be signing up again for, they're requiring everybody to sign up for their health care coverage.
It's not where you're happy with what you have and you don't have to do anything and next year it just re-signs you up.
automatically.
They're not letting you automatically keep your health care and just go into the next year.
They're making you physically go through the motions on this.
This is the most incredible.
What?
Making it more difficult.
Why are they making life so much more difficult for all of us?
I mean, it's difficult enough dealing with what we have to do.
deal with in our lives, but
And I wish I had that cut, but he did threaten them and say that if it's OK if you don't applaud, you don't stand.
That's fine.
You don't react.
But and you can even walk out if you want.
You have the
them to do that, but you're going to lose your pension and you're going to be fired.
So that's nice.
Yes.
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With that being said, we can do things during the shutdown that are irreversible, that are bad for them and irreversible by them.
like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that they like, cutting programs that they like.
And you know all, you all know Russell, though he's become very popular recently because he can trim the budget to a level that you couldn't do any other way.
So they're taking a risk by having a shutdown because because of the shutdown, we can do things medically and other ways, including benefits.
We can cut large numbers of people.
We don't want to do that, but we don't want.
fraud, waste, and abuse.
And, you know, we're cutting that.
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Interesting comment
is, as a matter of
The conversation that Federman was having with Maria and something that he posted on...
Twitter, which the deputy White House press secretary did as well, was this chart that Axio has published about this rise in left wing violence.
And the right was gleefully tweeting it, ignoring the fact that the right wing violence was much larger than the left wing violence, which is the truth about it.
And you can go anywhere you want for these statistics.
You can go to Cato.
You can go to the government accountability office.
You can go to the
Center for what is it strategic and international studies to see that and in the wake of the absolutely tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk the right led by Donald Trump and JD Vance wants to make it out as if
The left are the only ones who have ever used the word fascist.
And you can see a compilation of Stephen Miller saying it is passing all over Twitter.
You have Donald Trump on tape.
You have analyses of how many times that he's referred to Democrats and journalists as evil just in the first six months of his administration.
And I think that we should have led this conversation with the tragedies of this weekend.
We had more mass shootings, which is just the daily occurrence in American life.
And Kashpatel, JD Vance, and Donald Trump, Caroline Levin as well, out there with a very different narrative than I would think that they would have.
But because it doesn't add up for them, the guy who drove up to the Mormon church, set the place on fire, killed five people, shooting them, was a Trump supporter.
He had a Trump, he had a Trump Vance flag in his...
backyard which some on the right are trying to say that it said stop Trump doesn't make any sense.
All
Okay one was the American flag and I couldn't read the other one okay I don't know what that is but yes Axios did release a chart showing that left wing violence was up
this year for the last six months, seven months, but it also showed the long running trend of right wing violence, far outpacing all types of other violence, by the way, and she received mockery over her tweet on this because it was so silly.
I mean, you know, this little bar in the last six months, that's the problem.
Not these huge bars showing right wing attacks.
Let's go to CJ.
I'm really kind of curious because I want to know what CJ thinks about these unusual comments from Trump using the military.
CJ, what's your what's your thought on this?
CJ, go ahead.
Well, I am here.
Thank you for taking my call.
What
want to speak about some of the stuff you did talk about but The government shut down Sure, but you know the military the use of the military in cities.
maybe if the Democrats want the Chance on defunding the police You know, did you see who is here to be the Democrat nominee for mayor in New York?
working for them in their cities.
This is the one moment
have to send our National Guard to protect people.
How many died in Chicago last week, guys?
Yeah.
Well, what about?
OK, now it's what about ism.
But you heard you heard about National Security Directive NS PM 7 where these are the characteristics they're going to be looking for to preempt.
terrorism from the left.
Only got a minute here.
Did you hear our little lister extremism on gender extremism?
What do you think about
that?
Do you remember the summer of love?
Yes.
How many riots they had?
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guys don't remember that.
Publicans
there, I don't think
He loves pulling your guys.
it.
that
This is John and Gordy in the morning.
It's an amazing day today.
October 1st, of course, the government shutdown is another thing.
And then, of course, yesterday, Trump City wants to use the cities for military training grounds.
All right, so just a few things to talk to Mike McCabe about from Substack.
Good morning, Mike.
Good morning.
I thought that intro music might have been a reference to me being on the show now.
No, no, no.
Now I feel
on East Washington.
Yeah, they got a Madison tap room on East Washington Avenue.
Right,
yeah.
Yeah, next Tuesday at 7.
They do something called Ales with Authors.
So I guess we're going to tip a few Ales.
Not bad.
And they're going to have me come and discuss my book and do a Q&A and sign copies for people.
Are you
have no idea.
I'm going to show up at the tap room and wherever they put me is where I'm going to be.
Might be good weather for it.
Exactly.
Yeah, hopefully.
So maybe outside, maybe inside.
But what time is that?
7 o'clock next Tuesday.
OK.
don't know
kind of feels like it's going to be a long time, don't you think?
moment.
And they
for sure.
Those people who can't afford it will continue to pay for it.
They're going to be paying three to $400 more a month, which is going to be that extra spending money.
They could have bought something else or gone out to dinner and supported their local community.
You know, I once had a past experience with the government shutdown.
Oh, really?
Well, back in the day when Bill Clinton was president and Newt Gingrich and Bob Dole were the leaders of the House and Senate.
So you had split government and they came to impasse and the government was shut down and my family just happened to be visiting the Grand Canyon at that time.
And they closed the Grand Canyon.
couldn't get in.
And we had planned this entire trip and we had gone out there and we get to the entrance and it's closed.
So we start talking to some of the locals and they said, well, you can actually hike around to the back of the canyon.
You can go back to the Havasupai Indian Reservation.
And it's a long hike, but the views are spectacular if you get there.
And so we decided to do it because what else are we going to do?
The government shut down.
And we did the hike and actually got to the reservation and they put us up and they
were feeding us and they treated us like family, like guests.
And then we went into the canyon in the back way, went past the spectacular waterfall, which we wouldn't have seen otherwise.
and then got these gorgeous
Was that
And so whatever the main entrance is, whether that's north or south, it's been so many years too.
I mean, this is the Clinton administration we're talking here.
You know, we had to go to the opposite side of the canyon and where there wasn't, you know, it was actually the Indian reservation.
vantage point rather than rather than part of the national
able to see.
Not unless you go to the Indian reservation.
But man, they gave us lodging.
They were feeding us fry cakes and you know, and it was good times.
Yeah, yeah, but they're you know, and people were chanting.
Newt and Dole opened the hole.
CNN interviewed us
and
how frustrated we were with the shutdown.
And so that's my government shutdown story from years ago.
I think people can't support this because the Democrats are attempting to save people's health care, at least in one small way or other.
They can't do anything about Medicaid at this point.
That was passed in the big bad bill.
But at least we can work for getting people on the ACA a chance to keep their health care for their families, including my own.
My family is on that.
I'm not, but they are on it.
So working hard to keep that going.
We'll see what happens.
Isn't it amazing to hear Trump, of course, threaten to go after the left's programs and benefits and threaten us?
It doesn't sound like a guy who's going to actually run for reelection.
He doesn't have to.
He can make these edicts.
He can go out there and say anything he wants and destroy people's lives and threaten to destroy their lives and still think he's going to be president again.
Yeah,
but it's an empty threat because he's doing that dismantling anyway.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
He's aiming to do that destruction regardless.
And so, you know, I think this time, if the Democrats have sense, they'll stand firm and they'll call his bluff because because he he's been he's been systematically seeking to dismantle agencies anyway.
Yeah.
And but this is a fight worth fighting.
And and and, you know, if Republicans want to they hold the majority, let them let them
Let him twist in the wind as far as I'm concerned.
Oh, what
Well, that was that was freaking
Yeah, it was it was just jaw-dropping and and I I can only imagine What all those military commanders are thinking today,
down to that.
Passing notes to each other.
Yeah.
It was utter madness.
And to, you know, people have one of the things you hear all the time is people can't stay silent.
They got to speak up.
And hey, I'll be the first one to second that motion.
But I have to say,
Those generals, those military commanders sent one hell of a message by remaining completely 100% silent.
And it clearly unnerved
They're
remain entirely silent and sent one hell of a powerful message.
though they behaved according to military practice yes yes they they did exactly what military officers have been trained to do but doing that in today's environment um sent a very
a very clear and powerful message.
We're keeping our fingers crossed, they're planning a coup.
Now, do you hear our story about the NSPM 7, the National Security Directive, called the National Security Presidential Memorandum?
And they're going to try to preempt the left from committing crimes.
violence against the public, and they're looking for certain characteristics, indicators, like anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, anti-Christianity, support for the overthrow of the US government, which we're watching, the extremism of migration, extremism on race, gender, hostility toward those who hold traditional American views of the family.
I mean, how did they know this?
How would they know?
And why would they know this?
And then, can they really come after us if I talked to the neighbor and said, you know, I don't agree with your lifestyle, you know?
Well, you know, they could report me and have Trump come out and take me away.
Well, here's what's... Which maybe some people would like.
Here's
what's so difficult about all this kind of stuff.
Yeah.
Is that it's hard to know what...
That the administration throws out there on a daily basis is actually actionable whether they even plan to try to do any of these things or what is Simply distraction.
It's simply theater to keep everybody's eyes forever moving to the next shiny object and they are masters at this
and I
think
I think at least 90% of what comes out of the administration on a daily basis, and maybe it's closer to 95 or 99%, is simply distraction.
It's not something that they will do.
It is simply something that they use to prevent people from focusing on the things that they really are doing.
or in the case of the Epstein files, something that they absolutely do not want to do, namely releasing those files.
And to keep people from focusing on those things, what they are doing to our economy, what they are doing to our democracy, what they're not wanting to do when it comes to transparency in government, they keep throwing this stuff out daily.
And I think that
the convening of all those military commanders.
Right.
Maybe there's something actionable there.
But man, when you listened to Trump's speech and listened to Hegseth's speech, he really, he really took all those military commanders from all those posts all around the world and convened them to listen to that.
Yes, I know.
There was nothing.
It was just, it was just a rant, both by the president and by Hegseth.
Show
this.
It was just two rants that.
But that got everybody's attention and had them, and they'll have them talking for the next 24 hours or 48 hours.
And then they'll move on to the next distraction and the next one and the next one and the next one.
They're playing us.
And they know what they're doing.
They know how to.
how to keep the camera focused on them and keep us forever darting from one shiny object to the next, to the next, to the next.
about.
They followed through on some of it.
That's what I say.
That's what's so difficult to know which...
of the things they talk about are actionable, are the things that they really intend to do, and which of them are simply distraction.
And I think it's gotta be at least 90% distraction, at least.
But it's hard to know which is which, admittedly.
So which do you pay attention to and which do you not pay attention to?
That's hard.
And for journalists, it's impossible.
So I think all that journalists can do is report what the administration is saying and doing that day.
they feel a duty for that to do that but the the people
Trump and all of his minions know that they know that that there's that duty And they take advantage of it by throwing so much of the stuff that they throw out there is just purely distraction
Well, so all right Here's one of the things they are doing they're putting military on the streets and they're continuing to do that and they're saying they're going to do that and Then you know now they're in Chicago and trying to I mean it seems like Trump is
is feeding on this to create unrest and chaos and disruption.
And like you say, take everybody's minds off the Epstein.
It's a combination.
Again, even those actions, even deploying some forces, how much of that is just for show?
And how much of that is just distraction to keep people from focusing on the rampant theft?
the corruption that the first family is engaged in, just profiting, personally profiting from their service and office, and then to conceal things like the Epstein files.
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Hey, good morning guys just the shirt ignorance of people I Try to follow politics and and I'm asking you guys maybe you guys know I don't know has there been a police department that's been defunded by the Democratic Party
question.
Yeah.
Yeah funding the police Yeah, I know we always get people that call in and they want to throw that out there Yeah, and then and then my other one is you know
reminded me of when I was in education and you call on the kid to read or do a math problem that that couldn't so instead of answering the question they they deflect they maybe throw a book or or try to act out so they get sent out to the principal's office you know you you ask a simple question and instead of getting the question you get this this this like silly laughter because they're not
able to answer the question.
I don't want to call anybody's names.
I don't want them thinking I'm picking on them.
But but instead of answering the question, they they there's a laughter there.
Like I said, that kid in the classroom that you're calling them to read out loud.
And instead of being embarrassed, they're like, I'm gonna throw a book so I can get sent out to to the to the principal's office.
Yep.
You know, all
uh... in it and
they've
They've been keeping money away from them.
And I wanted to ask you, Mike, about this specific thing.
We asked CJ, he's a MAGA, and we asked him about these policies, about what Trump said about the military practicing in US cities, and deflected to other things.
And it's unsettling to me because you'd think that there would be a line that
you know, somebody can step over that will suddenly change another person's mind.
You know, and I can understand why, you know, what they said, what they're doing right now isn't changing a few of the people's minds or at least making them more concerned about the situation, right?
Yeah, what Charles described about the childhood behavior in the classroom.
The so-called grown-ups never really get past that, do they?
They engage in that same kind of behavior in their own way.
And you see that among citizens, voters, you see that among those people in power when they don't want to answer a question they're really inventive and creative about deflecting.
is
a
that.
Yeah, you know, basically the title of the book is based on, you know, it kind of summarizes a mental exercise that Lakoff asks readers or challenges readers to perform.
Don't think of an elephant, and of course immediately an image of an elephant comes
mind.
And that's our subconscious at work.
So, Lakoff's work was all about how subconscious influences affect the way we process information.
And so, if I say, don't think of Trump.
Don't
you
dare think or talk about Trump.
What comes to mind is that image of the hair and that blob of a body and all of that.
That's what comes to mind.
it's stuck in our minds.
And so you have to consciously think about how the subconscious is affecting how we are taking in and processing information.
Beware of the blob.
Get that song ready.
And we've got to consciously think and talk about what we care about, what we want, what we dream about, what we care about, what our strengths and weaknesses are, what our hopes and dreams are.
We have to consciously will ourselves to focus on that kind of stuff because there are some very, very manipulative people who are very, very good at...
using our subconsciouses against us, and keeping us forever fixated, forever obsessing over something, instead of thinking about what we hope and dream for.
And that's what Lakoff's book is all about.
And if people want to revisit that old volume, don't think of an elephant, there's just so much wisdom in it.
Yeah, well, we got to wrap things up here Mike, but we want to remind everybody they can meet you at Monaco a brewing company next Tuesday, right?
Yeah, seven o'clock.
That's
on East Washington, you're gonna be there.
It's called Ales with Authors.
Do you know some of the other authors that'll
be?
Oh,
the
Oh, you are the author.
Okay, well.
They've been doing it.
They've been doing this weekly.
And so they'll have an author in there.
I think they recently started this.
So I'm one of the initial...
Authors that they're choosing to bring in and showcase
there will be copies to sell there And I'll be signing copies after we talk.
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