The hosts start with a caffeinated chat about mushroom coffee before diving into a heated discussion on Trump's controversial comments about using the military in U.S. cities as training grounds. They explore the chilling implications of the National Security Presidential Memorandum 7 and the potential erosion of civil liberties. The episode also touches on the ongoing government shutdown, its impact on healthcare, and the political maneuverings behind it. Listener texts reflect a mix of disbelief and concern about the current political climate. Guest Mike McCabe provides insights into political strategy and the importance of staying focused amidst distraction.

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